>> BRAUDE: TONIGHT ON "GREATER BOSTON:" MIGHT POLITICAL IN-FIGHTING AND ELECTION-DENYING PRIMARY WINNERS, EVEN HERE IN NEW ENGLAND, BE THREATENING THE MIDTERM "RED WAVE" MANY REPUBLICANS WERE HOPING FOR?

THE FORMER CHAIRS OF THE MASSACHUSETTS AND NEW HAMPSHIRE REPUBLICAN PARTIES JOIN ME ON THAT.

PLUS, GBH NEWS CULTURE WRITER JAMES BENNETT, ON HIS ADVENTURES IN LEARNING TO RIDE A BIKE-- THANKS, MBTA-- EMMY HIGHLIGHTS, AND HIS LIST OF LOW-COST THINGS TO DO AROUND THE CITY.

♪♪ >> BRAUDE: WHAT LOOKED, AT FIRST, LIKE A SOLIDLY PROMISING MIDTERM SEASON FOR THE G.O.P.

MAY BE STARTING TO CRACK.

BETWEEN A FEDERAL ABORTION BAN, PROPOSED BY SOUTH CAROLINA SENATOR LINDSEY GRAHAM, EXPOSING BIG DIVIDES IN THE PARTY, AND, CLOSER TO HOME, TRUMP-BACKED CANDIDATES WINNING PRIMARIES BUT POLLING FAR BEHIND IN THE GENERAL-- FROM GEOFF DIEHL GOING FOR GOVERNOR HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS, TO YESTERDAY'S WINNERS, KAROLINE LEAVITT AND DON BOLDUC, GOING FOR U.S. HOUSE AND SENATE SEATS, RESPECTIVELY--IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, MANY REPUBLICANS ARE GROWING INCREASINGLY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR PARTY'S ABILITY TO FLIP SEATS AND GAIN REAL GROUND WITH ELECTED OFFICES.

OTHERS ARE CELEBRATING.

I'M JOINED BY JAMES RAPPAPORT, FORMER CHAIR OF THE MASSACHUSETTS REPUBLICAN PARTY, AND JENNIFER HORN, FORMER CHAIR , WHO IS NOT STANDING IN FRONT OF THE SCREEN, BY THE WAY OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE REPUBLICAN , PARTY, AND ONE OF THE FOUNDERS OF THE ANTI-TRUMP PAC, THE LINCOLN PROJECT.

p>> Braude: THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANKS, JIM.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> Braude: JIM, LET ME START WITH YOU.

DONALD TRUMP IS CLEARLY DOMINATING -- HIS CANDIDATES ARE DOMINATING REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS.

AND HIS ENDORSED CANDIDATE, GEOFF DIEHL, IS THE NOMINEE.

IS THAT THE RIGHT CHOICE FOR THE G.O.P., JIM?

>> I DEFINITELY THINK GEOFF DIEHL IS BECAUSE HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN MASSACHUSETTS FOR A LONG TIME, AND HE LED THE FIGHT AGAINST THE DEMOCRATS' GAS TAX.

HE LED THE FIGHT TO PUT THE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT LICENSURE BILL RECALL ON THE BALLOT.

SO HE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN MUCH MORE THAN THAT, AND HE BACKED TRUMP IN 2016 BECAUSE HE FELT YOU NEEDED A DISRUPTOR.

AND I THINK GEOFF WILL BE A GOOD CANDIDATE AND IT WILL BE A LOT CLOSER AT THE END.

>> Braude: GEOFF WAS KIND ENOUGH TO COME ON THE RADIO THE DAY AFTER HE WON THE PRIMARY, AND I HAD TO ASK HIM 11 TIMES -- I COUNTED IT -- WHETHER JOE BIDEN WAS THE LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES BEFORE HE FINALLY SAID YES.

DOES THAT TROUBLE YOU IN A REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE?

>> NO.

JOE BIDEN IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

HE IS A TERRIBLE PRESIDENT -- >> Braude: THAT WASN'T MY QUESTION FOR HIM.

I SAID, IS HE A LEGITIMATE -- >> IT IS RELEVANT.

IT IS THE SAME QUESTION OF WHETHER THE ELECTION WAS A FAIR -- WAS FAIR IN MANY INSTANCES.

THERE ARE LOTS OF INSTANCES TO POINT OUT WHERE IN FACT IT WAS INCREDIBLY RIGGED.

WHETHER IT WAS THE 120 INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE WHO CLAIMED THAT HUNTER BIDEN'S LAPTOP WAS, YOU KNOW, RUSSIAN DISINFORMATION, WHEN IN FACT IT WAS HIS.

>> Braude: JIM, IF I MAY INTERRUPT YOU -- WE'RE NOT DEBATING THE LEGITIMACY, I'M SAYING THE CANDIDATE FOR GOVERNOR IN MASSACHUSETTS ULTIMATELY SAID BIDEN IS A LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT, BUT ONLY AFTER BEING HAVING ASKED 11 TIMES.

LET ME GO TO JENNIFER.

JENNIFER, I KNOW YOU'RE NOT A TRUMP FAN, AND I THINK YOU'RE A FORMER REPUBLICAN, TOO.

LET ME SHOW YOU A POLL DONE VERY RECENTLY IN THIS MASSACHUSETTS GOVERNOR'S RACE.

IT IS AN EMERSON WGBH POLL.

MAURA HEALEY IS LEADING GEOFF DIEHL ONLY ABOUT 18 POINTS, AND GEOFF DIEHL IS LEADING AMONGST INDEPENDENCE OR UNENROLLED VOTERS, WHICH IS, I'M SURE YOU KNOW, THE LARGEST, QUOTE, "PARTY," IN MASSACHUSETTS.

WHAT DOES THAT SAY TO YOU?

>> IT IS INCREDIBLY DISTURBING.

IT IS EQUALLY DISTURBING AND DISAPPOINTING TO HEAR SOMEBODY AS RATIONAL AND REASONABLE AS JIM CONTINUING TO TRY TO PROTECT THIS LIE, THIS CONSPIRACY THEORY.

THE BEST EXAMPLE OF WHAT YOU JUST SHOWED, JIM, UP HERE IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, IS THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT RACE, WHERE IT IS A SEAT WHERE THE DEMOCRAT INCUMBENT IS CONSIDERED THE MOST VULNERABLE IN THE COUNTRY, BUT IT IS CLOSE ENOUGH IN VOTER REGISTRATION THAT IN ORDER FOR A REPUBLICAN TO WIN IT, THAT REPUBLICAN HAS TO WIN SOME DEMOCRATS AND SOME INDEPENDENTS, AND THEY JUST NOMINATED THE MOST IRRATIONAL CANDIDATE POSSIBLY WHO HAS RUN THIS YEAR ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHO ALSO EMBRACES THIS IDEA THAT THE ELECTION WAS UNFAIR OR RIGGED OR SOME HOW, YOU KNOW, A BIG SCAM IN SOME WAY.

A FORMER DONALD TRUMP EMPLOYEE -- >> Braude: WELL, HER NAME IS KAROLINE LEAVITT, AND SHE IS RUNNING AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT.

LET'S HEAR WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.

THIS IS A DEBATE OF FIVE REPUBLICANS, WMUR, JUST LAST WEEK.

SHE WAS TRYING TO SEPARATE HERSELF FROM THE OTHER TRUMP-SUPPORTING REPUBLICAN SAYING -- WELL, YOU'LL HEAR WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY.

>>> HERE IT IS.

>> I CONSISTENTLY CONTINUE TO BE THE ONLY CANDIDATE IN HIS RACE WHO SAYS I BELIEVE THE 2020 ELECTION WAS UNDOUBTEDLY STOLEN FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP.

>> Braude: AND YOU ADD TO THAT, THIS GUY, JOHN BOLDUC IS RUNNING -- SOME SAY IN NEW HAMPSHIRE -- >> WELL, THEY HAVE ALSO NEVADA -- >> Braude: HE WANTS THE 17th AMENDMENT, I THINK, REPEALED.

AND THE F.B.I.

ELIMINATED, AND THE EDUCATION DEPARTMENT.

AND HE CALLED THE GOVERNOR OF NEW HAMPSHIRE, SUNUNU, A CHINESE COMMUNIST SYMPATHIZER.

IS THAT A GOOD CANDIDATE TOR THE G.O.P.

FOR THE UNITED STATES -- >> BOTH PARTIES HAVE PROBLEMATIC CANDIDATES, YOU CAN GOAT TO FETTERMAN IN PENNSYLVANIA -- >> Braude: I'M TALKING ABOUT BOLDUC.

>> I'M VOTING FOR RUBIO IN FLORIDA.

AND MY GUY WILL DEFINITELY WIN.

IS HE THE PERFECT CANDIDATE?

THERE ARE VERY FEW PERFECT CANDIDATES.

I DIDN'T HAVE A DOG IN THAT HUNT.

I THINK ANY -- THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY REPUBLICAN TO WIN THIS YEAR BECAUSE OF HOW BAD JOE BIDEN HAS BEEN.

>> NOT -- YOU KNOW, JIM, LET ME JUST, REAL QUICK, JIM KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

HE'S A TERRIBLE CANDIDATE.

BOLDUC IS A TERRIBLE CANDIDATE FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

>> AND WHAT DID YOU DO TO HELP MORRIS GET ELECTED?

>> I DIDN'T -- JIM, I DON'T LIVE IN THAT STATE ANYMORE.

I DON'T HAVE -- TO YOUR POINT, I DON'T HAVE A DOG IN THAT HUNT, EITHER.

BUT IT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING OTHER THAN A RATIONAL PERSON TO LOOK AT DON BOLDUC AND REALIZE -- UNLESS YOU BELIEVE THAT DONALD TRUMP IS WHAT IS BEST FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THAT TRUMPISM, THAT TRUMP LEADERSHIP IS WHAT IS BEST FOR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, THEN YOU CAN'T BELIEVE THAT DON BOLDUC IS A GOOD CANDIDATE, ANYMORE THAN KAROLINE LEAVITT IS.

>> YOU'RE DEFLATING DONALD TRUMP AND HIS BEHAVIOR WITH THE ISSUES THAT HE SUCCESSFULLY PUSHED OVER THE FOUR YEARS WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT.

WHICH IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND THE LINCOLN PROBLEM.

IS THAT YOUR AN ANAMOUS FOR HIM IGNORED WHAT HE DID.

AND THE LINCOLN ACCORDS, WHICH JOE BIDEN HAS MANAGED TO SCREW UP.

>> THANK YOU FOR CREATING THAT OPENING FOR ME.

THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE WHO OPPOSES DONALD TRUMP DOES SO OUT OF ANAMOUS.

I LOVE THE CONSTITUTION.

I LOVE THE VISION THAT OUR FOUNDING FATHERS HAD FOR AMERICA.

I LOVE THE IDEA OF DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM FOR ALL PEOPLE AROUND THE WORLD, AND THAT IS WHAT DONALD TRUMP -- >> INCLUDING -- >> Braude: IF I CAN JUST STOP YOU FOR A SECOND.

JENNIFER, IF I MAY -- JIM -- >> THERE ARE 17 MILLION WOMEN REQUIRED TO WEAR BURQAS BECAUSE OF JOE BIDEN.

>> Braude: JIM, PART OF THE PROBLEM FOR ME IS, GOVERNOR SUNUNU CALLED A COMMUNIST PERSON A SYMPATHIZER, AND HE CRITICIZED THAT NOMINEE -- >> AND HE WROTE EDITORIALS.

>> Braude: THE GOVERNOR SAID I'LL SUPPORT THE NOMINEE, WHOEVER IT IS.

SO HE DESCRIBES THIS GUY AS TOTALLY UNFIT TO SERVE, SORT OF LIKE MITCH McCONNELL DID ON THE SENATE FLOOR AT JANUARY 6, WHEN MITCH McCONNELL WAS ASKED WHO HE WOULD VOTE FOR IN 20 >> Braude: IF I MAY, LINDSEY GRAHAM ISN'T GOING TOO FAR?

71% IN THE SENATE SUPPORT SAME-SEX MARRIAGE, AND THERE ARE ONLY THREE REPUBLICANS WILLING TO VOTE TO CODIFY IT FOR FEAR THAT JUSTICE THOMAS' DESIRES ARE GOING TO BECOME REALITY.

THEY'RE RUNNING TOTALLY IN THE FACE OF WHERE CLOSE TO THREE-QUARTERS OF AMERICANS ARE.

>> ONCE AGAIN, I DO HAVE FAITH IN THE SUPREME COURT, AND THE SUPREME COURT IN THE DECISION MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THIS WAS -- THAT THE DECISION ONLY DEALT WITH ABORTION, AND DID NOT DEAL WITH THE OTHERS.

>> Braude: THAT'S NOT WHAT THOMAS SAID -- >> THAT WAS THE POSITION -- >> Braude: JENNIFER, WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF LINDSEY GRAHAM'S COMMENTS, AS A FORMER REPUBLICAN, THINKING ABOUT REPUBLICAN PROSPECTS COME THIS NOVEMBER AND TWO NOVEMBERS DOWN.

>> IF YOU WANT TO LOOK AT THIS STRICTLY FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW DO YOU WIN AN ELECTION OF NOVEMBER OF 2022, LINDSEY GRAHAM IS INCREDIBLY DAMAGING.

JIM IS EMBRACING THE TRADITIONAL WISDOM THAT MID-TERM ELECTIONS ARE ABOUT THE INCUMBENT PRESIDENT.

DONALD TRUMP IS NOT ALLOWING THIS ELECTION TO BE ABOUT JOE BIDEN AND WHAT HE HAS OR HASN'T ACCOMPLISHED.

DONALD TRUMP AND HIS ENDORSED CANDIDATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY CONTINUE TO MAKE THIS ABOUT THE MOST EXTREME, MOST DAMAGING VOICES IN OUR PARTY.

>> Braude: YOU KNOW, I HAVE ONE LAST QUESTION -- >> IT'S NOT YOUR PARTY ANYMORE.

YOU SAID THAT.

>> Braude: THAT'S ACTUALLY THE QUESTION I WANT TO END WITH FOR BOTH OF YOU.

YOU CAN SEPARATE YOUR -- >> JIM, YOU COULD WIN MORE RACES IF YOU WERE A LITTLE MORE SILLY AND ADOLESCENT ABOUT THE WAY YOU COME AT THESE ISSUES.

>> I'M JUST REPEATING WHAT YOU SAID.

>> Braude: IF I MAY, IF TRUMP DOESN'T RUN IN 2024, DOES TRUMPISM SURVIVE DONALD TRUMP?

AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, 70% OF THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORT HIM IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AGREE WITH HIM THAT THE ELECTION WAS STOLEN.

IF A GUY LIKE DESANTIS, IN THE STATE YOU'RE TALKING TO ME FROM, IN FLORIDA, IS THE NOMINEE INSTEAD, DOES THAT PART OF THE ANTI-DEMOCRATIC, SMALL "D" "D"," WING OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY SURVIVE WITHOUT TRUMP?

>> ONE IS, THAT IS NOT WHAT TRUMPISM IS ABOUT.

IT IS ABOUT PUTTING AMERICA FIRST -- >> Braude: I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF DONALD TRUMP -- >> I THINK AS TIME GOES ON, IT IS BASICALLY IN CONSEQUENTIAL.

>> Braude: HIS TAKE ASSAULT ON DEMOCRACY IS INCONSEQUENTIAL -- >> IT IS NOT AN ASSAULT ON DEMOCRACY.

>> Braude: SAYING THAT AN ELECTION WAS STOLEN -- >> EXCUSE ME.

HOW MANY DEMOCRATS IN 2017 SAID HILLARY CLINTON -- >> Braude: I DON'T DO WHAT-ISM?

DOES THE JANUARY 6 SURVIVE DONALD TRUMP?

SO MANY PEOPLE THINK HE IS SO INGRAINED IN HIS CORE CONSTITUENTS, IT DOESN'T EVEN NEED HIM.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> I THINK IT ABSOLUTELY SURVIVES.

AS LONG AS THEY NOMINATE CANDIDATES LIKE KAROLINE LEAVITT AND DON BOLDUC, THEY'RE TELLING US WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE PRIMARIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT THE PARTY EMBRACES IT AND IS TRYING TO PRESERVE IT.

>> MOST OF THEM ARE NOT THAT WAY.

MOST CANDIDATES THAT ARE ELECTED BELIEVE THAT THE ELECTION IS OVER, 2020 IS OVER -- >> JIM, IF YOU'RE -- JIM, IF YOU WILL DENOUNCE WHAT OUR HOST JUST DESCRIBED, YOURSELF, PERSONALLY, IF YOU CAN PUBLICLY DENOUNCE DONALD TRUMP AND THAT PART OF HIM, I WOULD BELIEVE THAT THERE IS -- >> I SAID -- I HAVE BEEN ON YOUR SHOW IN MANY INSTANCES DENOUNCED MANY ACTIONS THAT TRUMP HAS TAKEN, MANY OF THE BEHAVIORS AND STATEMENTS HE MADE.

WHAT I DID -- AND I WAS NEVER A TRUMP APOLOGIST.

I WAS ACTUALLY A JOHN KASICH SUPPORTER INITIALLY.

>> SO YOU WOULDN'T VOTE FOR THOSE TWO PEOPLE, KAROLINE LEAVITT AND DON BOLDUC -- >> Braude: THANK YOU BOTH.

I HOPE TO TALK TO YOU BOTH SOON.

TAKE CARE.

>> BRAUDE: JAMES RAPPAPORT AND JENNIFER HORN, THANKS.

NEXT UP, I KNOW NOBODY WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT, BUT THE LAST OFFICIAL DAY OF SUMMER IS JUST AROUND THE CORNER.

AND, NOT LONG AFTER THAT, WE'LL BE SEEING THE END OF DAYLIGHT SAVING TIME-- NO "S." WHICH, AS YOU PROBABLY KNOW, I AM DREADING MORE THAN ANYONE ELSE.

THANKFULLY, GBH NEWS CULTURE WRITER JAMES BENNETT HAS US COVERED, WITH A LIST OF THINGS TO DO AND PLACES TO GO TO MAKE THE MOST OF THESE LAST FEW WEEKS OF GOOD WEATHER AND SUNLIGHT, IN THE LATEST EDITION OF HIS NEWSLETTER, "THE DROP."

I ALSO HAVE A LOT OF EMMY-RELATED THOUGHTS.

WE'LL SEE IF HIS MATCH MINE.

JAMES BENNETT JOINS ME.

>> Braude: HELLO, JAMES.

HOW ARE YOU?

>> HI, HOW ARE YOU?

>> Braude: WE'RE FOT GLOWING TO TALK ABOUT ONE OF MY FAVORITE COMEDIANS, CANAAN, WILDLY DISAPPOINTED ME.

HERE IS -- AS YOU'VE ALL SEEN THIS, SHERYL LEE RALPH WINS BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS FOR THE GREAT SHOW "ABBOTT ELEMENTARY".

HERE IS A LITTLE PIECE OF HER ACCEPTANCE SPEECH.

♪ I AM AND ENDANGERED SPECIES ♪ ♪ BUT I SING NO VICTIM SONG ♪ ♪ I KNOW WHERE MY VOICE BELONGS ♪ >> Braude: DIANNE REEVES "ENDANGERED SPECIES."

I THOUGHT IT WAS ONE OF THE MOST POWERFUL, WONDERFUL MOMENTS I'VE EVER SEEN IN AN AWARDS SHOW, NO?

>> OH, YEAH.

IT IS HALF OF AN E GOT -- >> Braude: EMMY, GRAMMY, TONY -- >> SO SHE IS HALF WAY THERE.

IT WAS ACTUALLY LIKE A SPEECH.

IT WAS VERY PERSONAL.

NOT TO DISS ANYBODY WHO MAKES CONTENT HAPPEN, BUT THERE IS A RHYTHM THAT YOU EXPECT WHEN YOU GET UP THERE, AND THEN YOU HEAR ALL OF THE PEOPLE THAT MATTER A LOT TO ME, WHICH THEY DO.

BUT IT IS ALSO LIKE WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR YOU PERSONALLY RIGHT NOW?

AND I FEEL SHE WAS ABLE TO LET US, LIKE, LOOK INTO WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH HER.

AND I LIKE THAT AT THE BOTTOM, THEY RAN -- >> Braude: ONE OF THE RHYTHMS YOU DON'T EXPECT IS HAVING TO STEP OVER THE BODY OF ANOTHER PERFORMER.

QUINTA BRUNSON WON FOR BEST WRITING FOR A COMEDY.

UNFORTUNATELY, SHE HAD TO STEP OVER JIMMY KIMMEL.

IT IS A LONG STORY.

HE WAS PART OF A BIT WITH WILL ARNETT, AND HE DIDN'T LEAVE.

HERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF THAT.

[APPLAUSE AND CHEERS] ♪♪ >> JIMMY, WAKE UP, I WON.

[LAUGHTER] >> JIMMY.

OKAY.

>> Braude: I LIKE JIMMY KIMMEL, AND SHE, TALK ABOUT CLASS, AFTERWARDS SAID HOW TERRIFIC HE HAS BEEN TO HER.

HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST PEOPLE TO ROOT HER ON WHEN HE SAW THE SCRIPT.

WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO THAT?

>> IT STOPPED ME FOR A SECOND.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS MALICIOUS.

I JUST THINK HE WASN'T FUNNY.

IT DID START OFF LIKE A BIT, AND IT COULD HAVE COME TO A NATURAL CONCLUSION BEFORE SHE EVEN GOT TO THE STAGE, BUT IT WAS JUST WEIRD AND NOT FUNNY.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY THE WORD TASTELESS -- >> Braude: I THINK IT WAS TASTELESS.

I JUST HAVE TO SAY, AS I'M WATCHING IT AND FEELING LIKE CRINGING, I'M WANDERING WOULD I HAVE DONE THE SAME THING IF I WERE HIM?

I WOULD HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE BIT.

WOULD I HAVE STAYED?

I MIGHT HAVE.

>> IF HE WAS PLAYING THE BIT HE WAS PASSED OUT, SHE COULD HAVE LEANED OVER AND (smack sound) >> Braude: THIS IS THE GREAT JENNIFER COOLIDGE ACCEPTING HER FIRST EMMY WARD.

>> I JUST WANT TO SAY, I TOOK A LAVENDER BATH RIGHT BEFORE THE SHOW, AND IT MADE ME SWELL UP INSIDE MY DRESS.

[LAUGHTER] >> AND I'M HAVING A HARD TIME SPEAKING.

AND THANK YOU TO MY AMAZING -- WAIT.

HOLD ON.

THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME THING, AND I'M FULL.

I'M FULL.

WAIT, WAIT, WAIT.

HOLD ON!

♪♪ >> Braude: SPONTANEITY, I THINK SHE IS BRILLIANT.

I THOUGHT IT WAS BRILLIANT, YES?

>> YEAH.

THERE WERE TWO THINGS THAT STOOD OUT TO ME FOR THAT GOOD ACCEPTANCE SPEECH, AND THE FIRST IS THAT PLAYING OFF WITH MUSIC IS ALSO A BIT OF A STRANGE THING.

BECAUSE IF THE ROOM IS REACTING WELL, WHO CARES.

IT IS GOING TO GO OVER.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING.

AND THEY WERE TRYING TO PLAY HER OFF WITH MUSIC THAT ISN'T PLAYOFF MUSIC.

IT ACTUALLY COMPLEMENTED THE SPEECH QUITE WELL.

I THINK "HIT THE ROAD JACK" TO ULTIMATELY GET HER OFF -- >> Braude: GREAT DANCE SONG.

WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT HOW OUTRAGEOUS IT IS LAURA LINNEY DIDN'T WIN FOR OZARK.

WHAT IS THE DROP?

>> WHAT IS IT IN?

>> Braude: WHAT'S IN IT?

>> THE DROP IS A ROUNDUP OF THINGS TO DO IN BOSTON THAT WON'T TAKE TOO MUCH OUT OF YOUR WALLET.

>> Braude: GIVE ME A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES FOR THIS MONTH.

>> THIS MONTH, THE SOCIETY IS DOING A SERIES OF WELCOME TOURS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND FOR SOMEONE WHO IS NEW IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, IT IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO GET TO KNOW THE SPACE THAT YOU'RE IN.

THOSE TOURS MEET ON SATURDAYS, AND THEY HEAD INTO OCTOBER AS WELL.

AND THERE ARE SOME SUNDAY DATES.

THERE IS ALSO A PRODUCTION OF LAVOLEM, BUT WHAT IS INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PRODUCTION IS IT IS TOLD IN REVERSE, THE FAMED OPERA THAT "RENT" IS BASED OFF OF ENDS IN THE TRAGEDY OF CONSUMPTION.

TUBERCULOSIS IS NOT MATERIALISM, BUT WHO KNOWS.

IT HAS A BIT OF MORE UPLIFT.

>> Braude: HOW DO PEOPLE FIND IT?

>> gbh.org/THE DROP.

>> Braude: YOU'RE PERSPECTIVE MAY BE MORE THAN MINE, WHO HAS LIVED HERE FOR 35 YEARS.

>> MAYBE.

I HAVE TO FIND ANYTHING TO DO.

>> Braude: THERE IS NO PRECONCEIVED ANYTHING BECAUSE IT IS ALL SORT OF NEW TO YOU.

>> IT IS NOT THAT I'M GOOGLING IT.

>> Braude: BEFORE YOU GO, I HAVE BEEN SWIMMING MY WHOLE LIFE, AND I HAVE NEVER REALLY LEARNED HOW TO DO THE CRAWL.

LAST YEAR I TOOK LESSONS AND I WOULD HAVE SORT OF HALF SAY I DO THE CRAWL.

LET ME PULL UP A FEW PICTURES OF YOU DOING SOMETHING YOU DIDN'T LEARN WHEN YOU WERE A KID.

THAT IS RIDING A BICYCLE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> Braude: WHAT IS THAT ABOUT?

WHY NOW AND WHY NOT WHEN YOU WERE A KID?

>> THE LURE THAT I'M TOLD IS THAT WHEN I WAS A KID, I WAS ENTRUSTED TO LEARN HOW TO RIDE A BIKE FROM MY DAD, AND MY DAD DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO RIDE A BIKE.

SO WE JUST KIND OF LEANED OVER THAT WHOLE THING.

IN THIS CASE, THE ORANGE LINER SHUT DOWN -- I LIVE IN J.P., AND THE GREEN STREET STOP.

PRETTY FAR DOWN, AND I HAVE TO GET UP HERE SOMETIMES, AND I DON'T HAVE A CAR.

I COULD TAKE THE SHUTTLE, OR THE BUS, BUT THE MOST DIRECT WAY WOULD BE TO RIDE A BIKE.

SO I'VE BEEN GOING OUT TO SUMMERVILLE TO TAKE LESSONS.

>> Braude: WHEN I WAS LEARNING HOW TO DO THE CRAWL, THE THING I WAS MOST WORRIED ABOUT WAS A LITTLE KID SEEING ME AND LAUGHING AT ME.

DO YOU WORRY ABOUT THAT, OR ARE YOU MORE GROWN UP THAN THAT?

>> I DID FOR A LONG TIME, MAYBE UNTIL MY MID-20s, AND THEN I STOPPED CARING.

BUT I NEVER REALLY TRIED.

IN THIS CONTEXT, YOU'RE SOMETIMES IN A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE SAME BOAT.

>> Braude: THE LAST PHOTOGRAPH, CAN WE PUT THAT UP WITH E.T.

IN HIS BASKET.

IS THAT LIKE A REWARD FOR HAVING SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED THE COURSE?

>> NO.

SUSAN LUCAS RUNS THIS BUSINESS OUT OF HER HOME.

AND ONE OF THE OTHER STUDENTS IN HER GARAGE WAS GETTING THE BIKES OUT AND SAW E.T., AND THOUGHT, LET'S TAKE E.T.

ON A RIDE.

>> Braude: AND THE FIRST WAS MY RADIO CO-HOST WITH E.T.

IN THE BASKET, MARGERY EAGAN.

THAT'S RIGHT.

BEFORE YOU GO, LET'S FIND OUT IF YOU'RE THE REAL DEAL.

DID YOU BIKE TO WORK TODAY?

>> NO.

I TOOK A LIFT.

>> Braude: AN HONEST MAN.

THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT, PLEASE COME BACK TOMORROW, REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE JAY McMAHON WILL JOIN ME, AND THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE WAS HER LAST NIGHT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.

AND PLEASE DON'T FORGET UKRAINE.

♪♪ Captioned by Media Access Group at WGBH access.wgbh.org