

September 25, 2024 - PBS News Hour full episode
9/25/2024 | 57m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
September 25, 2024 - PBS News Hour full episode
Wednesday on the News Hour, Florida braces as Hurricane Helene barrels towards the Gulf Coast. Israel strikes Hezbollah in Lebanon again in preparation for a possible ground invasion. Kamala Harris and Donald Trump campaign in swing states as polls show the race as close as ever. Plus, the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog on the potentially catastrophic situations in Iran and war-torn Ukraine.
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September 25, 2024 - PBS News Hour full episode
9/25/2024 | 57m 46sVideo has Closed Captions
Wednesday on the News Hour, Florida braces as Hurricane Helene barrels towards the Gulf Coast. Israel strikes Hezbollah in Lebanon again in preparation for a possible ground invasion. Kamala Harris and Donald Trump campaign in swing states as polls show the race as close as ever. Plus, the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog on the potentially catastrophic situations in Iran and war-torn Ukraine.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipGEOFF BENNETT: Good evening.
I'm Geoff# Bennett.
Amna Nawaz is on assignment.
On the "News Hour" tonight:# Florida braces for impact,## as Hurricane Helene barrels toward the Gulf Coast.
Israel strikes Hezbollah in# Lebanon for a third straight## day in preparation for a possible ground invasion.
Kamala Harris and Donald Trump# continue campaigning in swing states,## with polls showing the race as close as ever.
And the head of the U.N.'s nuclear watchdog on the## precarious and potentially catastrophic# situations in Iran and war-torn Ukraine.
(BREAK) GEOFF BENNETT: Welcome to the "News Hour."
In the span of 24 hours, Helene in the# Gulf of Mexico has s.. tropical storm into a hurricane.
Over the next# 24 hours, it's expected to grow even stronger,## and it's barreling straight toward Florida.# Floridians have been filling sandbags,## preparing to hunker down in the face# of heavy rains, storm surge and floods.
Earlier today, Florida Governor Ron# DeSantis urged residents to act now.
GOV.
RON DESANTIS (R-FL): Time to make the# preparations and put your plan in place today,## but that time is running out.
This storm, I think,## as you know, is basically in the area of Cuba# and the Yucatan Peninsula.
It's moving past## that, and then it's going to have pretty# much a clear runway in the Gulf of Mexico.
GEOFF BENNETT: Current forecasts show Helene## will arrive as a dangerous# Category 4 hurricane tomorrow.
Jamie Rhome is the deputy director# of the National Hurricane Center,## and he joins us now from# its headquarters in Miami.
Thanks for being with us.
So, Jamie, where is Helene right now, and# what w.. JAMIE RHOME, National Hurricane Center: Well,# Helene is centered down here just to the north## of Cancun, Mexico.
It's now emerging out over# the open waters of the Eastern Gulf of Mexico,## where conditions appear especially favorable for# development, possibly significant development.
And we anticipate Helene to go on and become# a major hurricane before it tracks somewhere## here over the Florida Panhandle or# Big Bend region late on Thursday.
GEOFF BENNETT: And what about the potential,## Jamie, for storm surge and flooding?# What does .. JAMIE RHOME: Unfortunately, it has increased over# the last 12 hours.
With the wind increase and the## size increase that we have been talking# about all day, so goes the surge risk.
And we're now looking at the potential for# 15 to 20 feet.
You read that correctly,## 15 to 20 feet of storm surge in the Big Bend# region, with significant surge less than that,## but significant surge extending basically# all the way down the Florida west coast.## So this is going to have a big and lasting# impact for much of the Florida peninsula.
And, unfortunately, it's going to spread,# spread its impacts deep into the Southeast,## especially over Southern Georgia.
GEOFF BENNETT: So it's expected to# land as a Category 4 storm right## now.
What does that suggest# in terms of wind strength?
JAMIE RHOME: For those in the path of that wind,# it would be catastrophic damage.
Category 4 winds## are capable of significant structural damage# to all but the most sound and secure buildings.
So anything that isn't up to modern building# codes or your modern standards are probably## going to sustain substantial damage,# widespread power outages, trees down.## Especially in and around Tallahassee, they have# got a really big tree canopy.
Impassable roads,## down power lines, it's just going to be a big# mess for people who are in the path of the storm.
GEOFF BENNETT: So people who are in that# path of the storm and the affected areas,## they should really heed those# evacuation warnings, I'd imagine.
JAMIE RHOME: Oh, absolutely.
Those evacuation orders are.. Hurricane Center.
And, in fact, we have been# on the phone with the emergency managers all## day trying to assist them in that evacuation# decision.
It's a hard decision for them to make,## but it's based off the best and most reliable# forecast that are issued straight from here.
GEOFF BENNETT: Jamie Rhome with# the National Hurricane Center,## thanks for your time this# evening, sir.
We appreciate it.
JAMIE RHOME: Thank you.
GEOFF BENNETT:## Israel's military said today it's preparing# for a ground invasion of Lebanon.
U.S.## officials are frantically trying to avoid# all-out war between Israel and Hezbollah## after more than a week of unprecedented# Israeli attacks on the militant group,## which have killed hundreds# and injured thousands more.
Nick Schifrin is here now with the details.
So, Nick, how tense is the situation# along the border right now?
NICK SCHIFRIN: It's extremely# tense, Geoff.
This has been the## deadliest week in Lebanon for decades,# and that violence continued today.
Israel said that it struck some 350 Hezbollah# sites, including some associated with the## intelligence directorate, to --# quote -- "make it more difficult"## for Hezbollah to produce an intelligence# assessment.
Lebanese authorities say the## strikes killed 50 on top of the more# than 550 killed the previous two day.
But, meanwhile, Hezbollah continued its# own strikes into Israel, including it's## hit villages near the border, wounding at# least two civilians.
Hezbollah also launched## its first ballistic missile at Tel Aviv.# It was intercepted by Israeli air defense.
But, as you said, Geoff, Israel went# further today than it has in the past,## calling up two reserve brigades to# deploy them to the northern area## along the Lebanese border.
And the# IDF's chief of staff, Herzi Halevi,## warn today that troops need to prepare for# -- quote -- "possible entry into Lebanon."
LT. GEN. HERZI HALEVI, Chief of Staff, Israeli# Defense Forces (through translator): We are## prepar.. enter villages that Hezbollah has prepared# as large military outposts.
You will go in,## destroy the enemy there, and decisively# destroy their infrastructure.
These## are the things that will allow us to safely# return the residents of the north afterward.
NICK SCHIFRIN: And that is what Israel says is# its goal, returning the 60,000-plus residents who## have been displaced from their homes since October# the 8th, when Hezbollah opened fire into Israel.
GEOFF BENNETT: So what does# de-escalation look like now?
What is## the U.S. doing to try to prevent an all-out war?
NICK SCHIFRIN: President Biden admitted# today that an all-out war was possible.## Secretary of State Antony Blinken called# the risk of escalation -- quote -- "acute."
So they have been scrambling.
And# they all are in New York with the## entire international community.
So# that makes it possible for them to## have meetings with partners and allies.# And Western officials, U.S. officials,## tell me that those partners and allies have# been Europeans, Arabs, alongside Israel.
And two U.S. officials confirmed to me# that the U.S. is proposing a temporary## cease-fire along the Israel-Lebanon# border.
It's not ready to be announced## yet.
One official called it -- quote# -- "pretty limited and short-term."
But the idea here, Geoff, would be to# stop the violence, again, temporarily,## in order to try and have a conversation# that they have been having for months,## which is a diplomatic agreement that would# push Hezbollah back past the Litani River,## which on average is about six miles north of the# border, beyond Hezbollah's anti-tank weapons.
That's really what Israel wants.
And# that is prescribed by Security Council## Resolution 1701.
So Hezbollah was# already supposed to be doing that.
One of the leading partners that is# helping the U.S. with this is France.## They are hosting a Security Council meeting# right now over Lebanon, and whose president,## Emmanuel Macron, said today that he was# ensuring that a diplomatic voice can be heard.
EMMANUEL MACRON, French President# (through translator): We must not,## we cannot have a war in Lebanon.
There cannot# be a war i.. Israel to cease this escalation in Lebanon and to# Hezbollah to cease this missile launch to Israel.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Senior U.S. officials# tell me that they believe Hezbollah## and Iran do not want an all-out war in# Lebanon, but Hezbollah has to respond## in a serious way to those unprecedented# attacks that you mentioned at the top,## especially using pagers that really hit# Hezbollah fighters where they're most vulnerable.
U.S. officials also believe that Israel# is willing to go to war and obviously is## trying to make it clear to everyone that it is# with this announcement today and the movement,## but that they're hoping Prime Minister Benjamin# Netanyahu is willing to forego an invasion.
But it's still not clear, Geoff, how any step that## Israel could take could really get all# of those residents back to their homes.
GEOFF BENNETT: So what would an# Israeli invasion of Lebanon look like?
NICK SCHIFRIN: It would be devastating,# devastating to Southern Lebanon,## to the people who live there, to Lebanon's# economy, which is already in shambles.
Take a listen to Lebanon's foreign minister,## Abdallah Habib, talking to the Carnegie# Endowment's Aaron David Miller.
ABDALLAH BOU HABIB, Lebanese Foreign# Minister: It's all destruction by## destruction and nothing -- and the people# are hurt.
Both people are hurt.
Israelis are## hurt.
Lebanese are hurt.
While we can find# a solution, the more we think about it is,## the United States is the key to our, I would# say, salvation, if I can say, use this word.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Salvation, that's an incredible# word, Geoff, to hear from him, when the U.S,## of course, is giving Israel the weapons# that it would be using in Lebanon.
Bottom line is, though, that their hopes# are on the U.S. on the West trying to get## some kind of deal that would push Israel# to withhold any kind of invasion and that## would somehow get Hezbollah to, again,# not -- who doesn't want full-scale war,## but has to respond to those major attacks, that# response to be under the threshold that Israel## needs it to be and somehow move from that# to the point where residents can get home.
But that's a very, very difficult task.
GEOFF BENNETT: Yes, more to come.
Nick Schifrin, thanks for th.. NICK SCHIFRIN: Thank you.
GEOFF BENNETT: Turning our focus# now to the 2024 race for president,## both candidates were out on the campaign# trail today laying out their plans to tackle## one of the most consequential issues# of this election.
That's the economy.
Vice President Kamala Harris was in Pennsylvania# and Donald Trump campaigned in North Carolina.
And that's where our Lisa# Desjardins has been reporting.
LISA DESJARDINS: Today, two battleground states,# two battling visions for America's economy.
KAMALA HARRIS, Vice President of the United# States (D) and U.S. Presidential Candidate: I## intend to chart a new way forward and#.. intends to take America backward.
LISA DESJARDINS: Vice President# Kamala Harris' came in a speech to## the Economic Club of Pittsburgh.
She# played up what she calls a pragmatic## approach and pledged policies# to boost domestic manufacturing.
Her proposals largely include# tax shifts and incentives,## such as a $50,000 tax deduction for# new small businesses.
Other ideas,## she says, will pick up where President# Biden's economic agenda leaves off.
KAMALA HARRIS: A survey of top economists## by The Financial Times and the University# of Chicago found that by an overwhelming## 70 to 3 percent margin, my plan would# be better for keeping inflation low.
LISA DESJARDINS: Just hours earlier... DONALD TRUMP, Former President (R) and Current U... LISA DESJARDINS: ... former President Donald Trump# outlined his economic plan, including tariffs## and a push for American businesses to keep jobs# here at a factory in Mint Hill, North Carolina.
DONALD TRUMP: I will give you the lowest taxes,# the lowest energy costs, I will cut your energy in## half, the lowest regulatory burden and free access# to the best and biggest market on the planet## Earth, but only if you make your product here in# America and hire American workers for the job.
LISA DESJARDINS: It comes at a time# when the economy consistently tops## the polls as one of the most# important issues for voters.
DONALD TRUMP: Forty-one days from now, we# are going to win the state of North Carolina.
LISA DESJARDINS: The location is politically# powerful.
Near the bottom of the state,## Mint Hill has a suburb of Charlotte between# two powerhouse counties, Mecklenburg,## a population center that voted 67 percent# for Biden in 2020, but next door is Union,## the largest county that Trump won in# 2020.
It voted for him 61 percent.
Both counties are fast growing and business# centers.
Industrial parks keep popping up.
Colin Hughes and his wife opened this# coffee shop in Mint Hill over a year ago,## a risk, but one that's paid off.
COLIN HUGHES, Coffee Shop Owner: We have# been in business for a little over a year,## year-and-a-half, and we haven't gone down# yet in a month.
Last year at this time,## we had four employees.
Now we have 10.
So, for us,## the only thing I can really speak on is# how we're doing here and how our other## friends are doing up and down this trip.
And,# yes, things are going really well for us.
LISA DESJARDINS: But the economy here# has not been as bright for everyone.
Nina Harrill is a Trump supporter.
NINA HARRILL, Voter: I lost my job during COVID,## and things were getting really good when Trump# was in.
But right after he went out, it's like## everything started going south, and my company# that had been in business for 80 years went under.
So, I'd been at my job 25 years# and lost my job after all that.
LISA DESJARDINS: She now works at a Chick-fil-A,## where she has seen customers cut back,# adults buying kids' meals to save money.
She's all in on Trump because she thinks the# country is on a downward track.
We also asked Nina## about the Republican candidate for governor, Mark# Robinson, and the bombshell report last week from## CNN asserting that he previously posted a litany# of offensive comments on a porn site, including## that he was a Nazi, that slavery should return,# and that he enjoyed watching transgender porn.
As a candidate, Robinson has adamantly# opposed transgender rights.
He maintains## the CNN report is false, that these# are not his words.
Despite pressure## and resignations from top staff,# Robinson has stayed in the race.
A candidate Trump has vigorously embraced# in the past, now the Trump/Vance campaign## avoids talking about Robinson, and he# was not at the event today.
So far,## the Robinson story hasn't impacted# either Nina's vote for Trump or him.
NINA HARRILL: I mean, from just a little# bit that I know to be able to bring up a## past from probably 10 years ago, and it's not# like I know if all that stuff's true or not.
LISA DESJARDINS: But at the# coffee shop after our interview,## she did confront a different doubt# about Trump from someone nearby.
MADISYN BELK, Voter: I don't see Trump# sacrificing anything that he has for his country.
LISA DESJARDINS: Madisyn Belk sees Trump's# relationship with the economy differently,## that he's a billionaire who wants to# continue tax cuts for the wealthy.
MADISYN BELK: He was born# rich and he's for the rich.
GEOFF BENNETT: And Lisa joins us# now from Charlotte, North Carolina.
Lisa, it's great to see you.
So, based on your reporting, how is Donald# Trump's .. LISA DESJARDINS: Republicans like a# lot that's in this plan, in particular,## lower taxes.
Most people like the lower taxes.# There are some, as you heard in the piece,## especially Democrats, who say that he# gives away too much to the wealthy.
But something has happened in the last day about# a key part of Donald Trump's plan.
That's tariffs.## More and more conservative groups are saying they# have concerns, and they're saying this publicly.## Notably, yesterday, the top Republican in the# U.S. Senate, Mitch McConnell, came out and said## he's not a fan of tariffs and he went even farther# and said tariffs add cost to American consumers.
That's the opposite of what Donald Trump# has been saying about his tariff plan.
Now,## Mitch McConnell, of course, is someone that# Trump supporters really don't pay a lot of## attention to, but they may be paying attention# to something else that happened this morning.
The Wall Street Journal editorial board came# out with a strong statement also about Trump's## tariff policy.
They wrote: "Hard to# believe, but Donald Trump is giving## U.S. companies a reason to think that Kamala# Harris might be better for their business."
The Wall Street Journal there talking about the# idea that Trump would penalize businesses moving## overseas with tariffs somehow.
As someone told me# this morning, to paraphrase them, if Donald Trump## has a problem with The Wall Street Journal on the# economy, then he has a very big problem indeed.
GEOFF BENNETT: Well, let's talk about# North Carolina, a battleground state.
How much does the scandal involving# the GOP candidate for governor,## Mark Robinson, how much does that hurt# Donald Trump's chances of winning?
LISA DESJARDINS: It is the hot# topic of conversation down here,## but people are having it in# quiet ways in their home.
When you talk to Republican officials here, they# tell you on or off the record that they're trying## not to be concerned, but you can really feel their# trepidation.
One Republican official told me,## though, that they think ultimately no one can# hurt Donald Trump, including Donald Trump,## that his fan base is so loyal, they're not# worried about Mark Robinson taking him down.
On the other hand, there# are some who are concerned,## and part of it has to do with voters.
I talked# to one of the voters at this Trump event today,## someone who says they're still voting# for Mark Robinson.
Here's what she said.
KATIE BRIDESON, Republican Voter: I think Mark# Robinson is going through a lot right now,## and I think that these are just allegations,# and I believe that there's a lot that people## can do with A.I.
these days, and we just need to# be careful what we listen to and what we believe.
We 100 percent believe and trust in Jesus# Christ, and we pray for our politicians,## and we hope that Donald Trump and Mark# Robinson are on that path with us.
LISA DESJARDINS: I heard# that from a number of people,## thinking that this couldn't really# be something that happened Mark## Robinson.
They don't trust the CNN# reporting.
They think maybe it's A.I.
There's no reason to think this was A.I.
But# there are some Republican officials who say## that is also a problem, that there is a base# that is supporting Mark Robinson, when they## want him to drop out.
They think, as long as he's# on the ballot, there may be some Republican voters## who don't show up at all and they think# that could ultimately hurt Donald Trump.
GEOFF BENNETT: Well, as you have been# speaking with voters there across## North Carolina, what's your sense# of where folks might be leaning?
LISA DESJARDINS: I really got a strong# sense of place in that community,## Mint Hill, where Donald Trump spoke today.
First of all, the factory he was at has grown in# the last year.
This is a place where the economy## is good.
Feelings are generally good.
Prices# are the problem for Kamala Harris here.
But## this is a community that, honestly, they're# dealing with their divide together in a more## gentle and, shall I say, like, civil# way than I have seen in other places.
There are a lot of people here who say they# don't really like either candidate, what we heard## earlier this year.
They're not comfortable yet# with Kamala Harris.
But when I asked them more,## Geoff, I heard a lot of people tell me they're# less comfortable with Donald Trump.
There are## more people who say: I can't vote for him.
I'm# not sure about her, but I can't vote for him.
And that is why Democrats have so much hope# in this state.
The ground game is going to## matter here.
Turnout will matter, but it is very# much anyone's ball game here in North Carolina.
GEOFF BENNETT: Lisa Desjardins reporting# tonight from Charlotte, North Carolina.
Lisa, thanks so much.
LISA DESJARDINS: You're welcome.
GEOFF BENNETT: And we start today's# other headlines with efforts by## Ukraine's president to keep the world's# attention his country's war against Russia.
Volodymyr Zelenskyy's speech today at the# U.N. General Assembly comes as much of the## focus has been on events in the Middle East.# He warned neighboring countries in Europe## and Central Asia that the war could come# for them as well.
And Zelenskyy urged## world leaders not to accept any peace proposals# from Russia or its allies to end the conflict.
VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY, Ukrainian President:# When some propose alternatives, half-hearted## settlement plans, so-called sets of principles, it# not only ignores reality, but also gives Putin the## political space to continue the war and pressure# the world to bring more nations under control.
GEOFF BENNETT: Shortly before Zelenskyy took# the stage, an official in Ukraine said that a## Russian strike hit the town of Kramatorsk.
Two# people were killed and a dozen more injured,## including three children.
Tomorrow,# Zelenskyy is set to meet with President## Biden in Washington to lay out what he calls# a victory plan.
Details have been kept secret,## but Zelenskyy has said it's meant to# be a bridge toward ending the war.
A bipartisan Senate investigation says# Secret Service failures during the July## assassination attempt on former President# Donald Trump were preventable.
The interim## report from the Senate Homeland Security# Committee found mistakes in planning,## communications, and the use of resources.
The report also found the Secret Service was# notified about an individual on a nearby roof## about two minutes before the gunman opened# fire.
And 22 seconds before the shooting,## a local officer sent a radio alert that was# not relayed to vital Secret Service personnel.
Mr. Trump was wounded in the ear in the## July 13 shooting.
One rallygoer was# killed and two others were injured.
The House of Representatives passed a temporary# measure to keep the government funded just days## ahead of next week's deadline.
The measure# passed by a vote of 341 to 82 this afternoon,## with Republican Speaker Mike Johnson relying# on the support of Democrats to supply a large## number of the votes.
The bill generally funds# agencies at current levels through December 20.
So that's well after the November election.
The# bill also includes more than $200 million to## support the U.S. Secret Service.
It still needs to# pass the Senate, but is widely expected to do so.
Turning now to a series of stories from# around the country.
An evacuation order## remains in effect in an Ohio# town following a chemical leak## that started yesterday.
Firefighters# in Cleves, just west of Cincinnati,## tried to contain a leak of styrene.
That's a# toxic chemical used to make plastic and rubber.
The White House says that President Biden has been## briefed on the situation.
No# injuries have been reported.
In Los Angeles, a gunman hijacked a city# bus, leaving one person dead.
The driver## was held at gunpoint and forced to drive through# downtown L.A. in the early hours of the morning.## Police trailed the bus for an hour before# it stopped and the suspect surrendered.
Also in California, an explosion injured# two people at the Santa Maria courthouse## today.
Authorities detained one person# and said they believe the explosion was## intentional.
The court complex was closed for# the day and all court business was canceled.
And Wall Street today saw some stocks inch back## from their all-time records.
The Dow Jones# industrial average lost nearly 300 points,## falling back below 42000.
The Nasdaq# notched an ever-so-small gain on the day,## and the S&P lost nearly 11 points a# day after it reached an all-time high.
Still to come on the "News Hour": one family's# journey to access gender-affirming care after## their state banned it for trans youth;# why Missouri executed a prisoner even## though the victim's family said his life# should have been spared; and a new book## takes a hopeful view of the climate crisis,# asking the question, what if we get it right?
Ukraine's president today at the# United Nations warned that Russia## is preparing to attack Ukraine's# nuclear plants.
At the same time,## Iranian officials have repeatedly stated they# are interested in resuming nuclear diplomacy.
Nick Schifrin is back to speak with an official# who is central to both challenges -- Nick.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Yes, Geoff, central to both# challenges because the International Atomic## Energy Agency, or IAEA, is responsible# for monitoring and ensuring the safe use## of nuclear power around the world and for# inspecting countries' nuclear programs.
Rafael Grossi is the director general# of the IAEA, and he joins me now.
Director General, thank you very# much.
Welcome back to the "News Hour."
As we just said, today, at# the U.N. General Assembly,## Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy# accused Russia of -- quote -- "planning## attacks on our nuclear power# plants and their infrastructure."
Do you have any crowd# corroboration for that accusation?
RAFAEL GROSSI, Director General, IAEA: Thank you# very much.
As always, a pleasure to talk to you.
No, we don't have that information.
Of course,## we are aware of the statement by# the president.
We don't have that.
Let me simply say on this thing that# we have said very clearly at the U.N.## Security Council and elsewhere that# nuclear power plants should never be## attacked wherever they are.
Let me# also say that, as you may remember,## the IAEA has personnel deployed not only at the# Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, but also at## every other nuclear power plant in Ukraine,# Rivne, Nytskyi, South Ukraine, and Chernobyl.
So we are present in all these sites.
NICK SCHIFRIN: So is -- the context# for this is Russia's occupation at## the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant,# which you visited just a few weeks ago,## and as well as your presence, as you# just said, at other nuclear power plants.
And Ukraine and you have pointed out that# for these nuclear power plants to stay safe,## they need to have electricity.# Russia has deliberately targeted## Ukraine's electricity infrastructure.# Is there a higher concern today that## the electricity that these plants need to# maintain their safety could be cut off?
RAFAEL GROSSI: This is a# permanent concern of ours.
In reality, there have been already# eight complete blackouts at the## Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant.
And,# of course, we are aware of the events## and incidents on other parts of the# electric grid and the infrastructure.
So, we are also monitoring that.
We have# established, as an additional measure,## a system to assess and analyze the critical# substations to the nuclear power plants from,## of course, a perspective of# nuclear safety in all of them.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Let me switch to Iran.
This week at the U.N., you met Iran's new# foreign minister.. a former nuclear negotiator for Iran.
And# you said you see a -- quote -- "expressed## willingness to reengage with us# in a more meaningful fashion."
Why do you say that?
And what# does that actually translate to?
RAFAEL GROSSI: Because I was told so.
So I# heard the foreign minister who said that.
I also got a letter from President# Pezeshkian during the summer indicating## that -- his willingness to meet# with me.
And we are -- precisely,## one of the things we were doing# with Foreign Minister Araqchi,## whom I know very, very well and has a lot of# experience in nuclear matters and negotiations.
We are preparing the ground for that meeting,# which should be -- in their own interpretation,## should mark a clear progress, a turning# point, as they say.
So I have to see.## There are lots of things that we need to# discuss, and we are preparing for that.
NICK SCHIFRIN: So, among the things that,## of course, you need to discuss is a# proble.. which is that Iran has failed to explain# uranium traces found at undeclared sites.
Do you believe that they are interested# in finally providing those explanations?
RAFAEL GROSSI: Well, I have to# continue.
I should never give up.
I'm hearing a high official of a# member state of the IAEA.
Of course,## there is a history, and we always# have that in mind.
But we trust,## but we verify.
So we hope that this will# be the case and that we will be able,## at long last -- like you say, this has been going# on for a long time -- to move to a better place.
NICK SCHIFRIN: What about restrictions on some of## your inspectors that Iran has placed?
Do# you believe that they might lift those?
RAFAEL GROSSI: They won't do that.# They indicated, unfortunately,## that the inspectors, they have taken out of# our roaster of inspectors visiting different## facilities in Iran which have been taken# out of that list will not be restored to it.
So, I am, frankly, frustrated about this.
But# as I said to one of your colleagues, that ship## has sailed.
We continue.
We will be trying to# do the best we can, and we will certainly do.
NICK SCHIFRIN: And the larger context for# this, of course, is what you have called## the turbocharging of Iran's nuclear program,# enriching uranium up to 60 percent purity.
Last month, the IAEA said Iran added nearly# 50 pounds of highly enriched uranium,## exceeding what it would need to create# at least three nuclear weapons.
Do you## believe you understand that you can't# understand the baseline of Iran's## nuclear program?
And do you believe that# that means you could have negotiations?
RAFAEL GROSSI: Well, for that, that -- that# is exactly what we want to do.
We want to## reestablish a credible baseline on -- with regards# to the material, with regards to the production## capacities in terms of centrifuges and other# things which are truly indispensable to prepare.
I'm not talking about a final# or wide-ranging negotiation.## I'm talking about preparing the grounds# for that.
If you don't have the -- or the## IAEA does not have the ability to say what# is what is there, what is present there,## then the basic foundations for a# sound negotiation are simply missing.
And I believe my Iranian counterparts understand# this.
So let's hope that this reengagement,## reestablishment of contact, my upcoming# visit to Tehran, will be a positive one.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Rafael Grossi, director# general of the IAEA, thank you very much.
RAFAEL GROSSI: My pleasure.
GEOFF BENNETT: The political battles over# the rights of transgender Americans have## led to difficult decisions for# a number of families, especially## those living in states with restrictions on# transition-related medical care for minors.
Laura Barron-Lopez has the story of one# family's journey to access that care.
RHYAN, 14 Years Old: When are we leaving?
MIA, Mother: Twenty minutes, 20, 10 minutes.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: Fourteen-year-old# Rhyan (ph) and his single mom,## Mia (ph), have waited over a year for this day.# They're getting ready for a doctor's appointment.
MIA: Yes.
Can you put that away?
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: But that appointment is in# Albuquerque, New Mex.. from their home here in Austin, Texas.
It is a# journey they are making because Rhyan is trans.
This is something that you didn't just decide# one day.
You felt this for a long time?
RHYAN: Yes.
I was really young.
I was -- like, I# was 6, and I knew for sure that I was not a girl.
MIA: He was always a dude.
He was# always a little dude.
And then,## right before he came out, he cut his# hair, and looking back on it now, like,## cutting all those curls off and everything, like,# I can see how his -- he was starting to align.
And it just in hindsight makes it way# more clear than it was at the time.
But,## yes, he's always been who he's been.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: Rhyan saw doctors# and therapists for years before## starting medication around the age of 10 to# temporarily pause the effects of puberty.
A few years later, he began testosterone# treatments, which can lead to things like hair## growth and a deeper voice.
All those steps fall# within guidelines for gender-affirming care, which## is supported by major U.S. medical associations,# including the American Academy of Pediatrics.
But around the globe, medical experts and# government health officials haven't been## in complete agreement.
Gender-affirming medical# care for minors has come under increased scrutiny.
STATE SEN. BEN ADAMS (R-ID): If# they really feel that their best## choice is to mutilate themselves, they# better wait until they are an adult.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: As conservatives,# from local lawmakers to the Republican## presidential nominee, have# used it to mobilize their base.
DONALD TRUMP, Former President (R) and Current U... and you say, Jimmy, I love you so# much, go have a good day in school,## and your son comes back with a brutal# operation?
Can you even imagine this?
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: Lies spread by former# President Donald Trump and others in his## party about things like surgeries on minors# have helped fuel a wave of state legislation.
In 2021, Arkansas became the first# state to ban transition-related## medical care for those under 18.
Since then,# restrictions have passed in 25 more states,## home to 40 percent of the nation's trans youth,# including Texas.
It's law went into effect last## September.
It revokes the licenses of# doctors who provide gender-affirming## medical care to minors and requires# anyone on treatment to be weaned off.
MIA: It was terrifying.
Like it# was, immobilizing, immobilizing.
I pounded the pavement.
I knocked on doors.
Like,# I did my best as, like, a mom and as a constituent## to the plea my to plea my case and plead our# family's case.
I watched experts get disregarded## and dismissed.
I watched facts and evidence# be ignored.
And they voted for it anyways.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: What's your message# to those lawmakers who passed that ban?
RHYAN: You don't know the people you're# affecting.
You don't know how much of a,## like, impact it has on them, how dangerous it is.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: As the measure# moved through the Texas legislature,## Rhyan and Mia were told his doctor# couldn't see him anymore.
They lost## access to his prescriptions and had to stretch# the medicine they did have as long as possible.
Mia started looking for care in other# states.
But between the cost of travel,## the appointment, and the# medicine, they couldn't afford it.
MIA: There's no way.
I'm already, like, barely,# barely scraping by.
I don't have -- actually,## if my car breaks down, I don't have extra# funds.
And there's days where I have to -- like,## I had to choose between, like, gas or food.
And# there's days I went hungry so my kid could eat.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: Mia ultimately connected# with the Campaign for Southern Equality,## a nonprofit focused on LGBTQ rights.# Its Trans Youth Emergency Project## helps families cover the costs of# travel for out-of-state treatment.
Mia got Rhyan an appointment at a University# of New Mexico clinic in Albuquerque.
But she## still didn't have enough money to cover the# entire cost of the trip.
Enter Elevated Access,## whose volunteer pilots fly# patients living in places with## abortion or gender-affirming care bans# to out-of-state appointments for free.
A pilot we're just calling Clyde to# protect his identity volunteered to## fly Rhyan and Mia from Austin# to Albuquerque in his Cessna.
CLYDE, Pilot: The biggest surprise for# me is how I reacted emotionally to this## need.
It just seems so political, so# ridiculous because it was political.
RHYAN: I think it's stupid.
We shouldn't# have to take a private plane to go to a## fully different state for some little# vials of medicine, a shot.
And I don't## think old men should be making laws about# something that doesn't affect them at all.
MIA: Our pilot, the people that go out of their# way to risk it, that are risking their livelihoods## or putting themselves at risk for no reason,# they're just -- they're kind, and they understand## what's at stake.
And that's the part that --# it gets to me.
It gets me in my heartstrings.
CLYDE: And I will see you tomorrow maybe.
MIA: Oh, thank you.
Oh, yes, for sure.# Thank you very much.
really appreciate it.
CLYDE: Rhyan, give you a hug.
RHYAN: Thank you.
MIA: You're our hero tod.. LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: The next morning, Rhyan# and Mia arrived for their appointment with Dr.## Michele Hutchison, a pediatric endocrinologist.# About half her patients are now from Texas.
DR. MICHELE HUTCHISON, University of# New Mexico Health: I hate that this is## happening to my families.
Being .. you're doing all of this in the background# of everybody coming at you and telling## you that it's wrong.
How would you not have# anxiety?
How would you not have depression?
This is -- it's just a mountain to overcome.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: And there are new# obstacles.
Texas' attorney general has## tried to access medical records of trans# patients getting care out of state.
Trans## Texans can no longer change their gender# on birth certificates or driver's licenses.
Meanwhile, the U.S. Supreme Court is set## to decide whether bans like the# one in Texas are constitutional.
DONALD TRUMP: Transgender insanity# the hell out of our schools.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: And Mia says# that, if Trump is reelected,## she will move her family out of the country.
MIA: The stakes are high.
It is# that scary.
I want to -- yes.
No,## I wouldn't stay.
How -- how could I do# that in good faith and be a good parent?
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: But, for now, Rhyan's# care moves forward.
Dr. Hutchison said## Rhyan was handling his treatment well,# gave him a new testosterone prescription,## and scheduled a follow-up# appointment for six months.
RHYAN: I'm excited.
And now we# have, like, plans set in place,## and like, resources available.
I'm happy.
MIA: I love you.
Yes, today's a good day.# I have been emotional all morning.
But## it's a good day.
This is happy tears.
I'm# just -- I'm overwhelmed with gratitude.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: They went to a# pharmacy nearby to fill the prescription.
MIA: Thank you very much.
LAURA BARRON-LOPEZ: A moment of# relief amid near-constant struggle.
For the "PBS News Hour," I'm Laura Barron-Lopez.
GEOFF BENNETT: Last night, the state of Missouri# executed 55-year-old Marcellus Williams over the## objections of the local prosecutor and against# the wishes of the murdered victim's spouse.
Williams was convicted of the# 1998 murder of Felicia Gayle,## who was stabbed more than 40 times# in her home in suburban St. Louis.
As William Brangham explains, Williams maintained# his innocence throughout decades of incarceration.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Geoff, no physical evidence# ever linked Marcellus Williams to that crime## scene, and there was only one Black# person the jury that convicted him.
Earlier this year, the St. Louis county# prosecutor filed a motion to overturn the## conviction, calling it a -- quote -- "manifest# injustice."
It cited a lack of credible evidence,## ineffective trial counsel, and racial# discrimination in jury selection.
For more on this case,## we are joined by Jonathan Potts.
He was# Marcellu.. Jonathan, thank you so much for being here.
I# know this has got to be an awful day for you all.
And I wonder if you could just# -- how are you doing?
How's the## defense team doing?
How's# Mr. Williams' family doing?
JONATHAN POTTS, Attorney For Marcellus# Williams: Thank you, William.
As you can imagine, everyone's devastated# right now.
It's been a v.. draining past 72 hours.
There's been# a lot of effort and a lot of support## to keep Mr. Williams alive, but,# obviously, we failed last night.
And when that failure happens, you take# it personally, and you take it hard.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Do you believe# in your heart of hearts that the## state executed an innocent man yesterday?
JONATHAN POTTS: Yes, of course I do.# We don't take these cases unless we## believe in our clients, and that's# why we fought for him for years.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: I know that just on Monday you## were even arguing his appeal in# front of the state Supreme Court.
And one of the things you were arguing# about was the DNA that was found on## the murder weapon in this case.
Can# you tell us what was going on there?
JONATHAN POTTS: Yes.
So, years ago, w.. and that actually led one of the prior governors# in Missouri to halt Mr. Williams' execution back## in 2017.
It's always been believed by us that# DNA was going to belong to the true killer.
And as we were systematically excluding# everyone, what we found out is that the DNA## on the murder weapon belonged to the original# trial prosecutor.
At a hearing last month,## the trial prosecutor admitted that he'd# been handling the bloody kitchen knife## without gloves five times before# trial, contaminating the evidence.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: How do you# make sense of all of this?
I mean, despite the objections of the# current occupant of the prosecutor's office,## who didn't want this to go forward, Ms.# Gayle's own family, this tainted DNA## evidence that you're describing, how do you# explain that this execution still took place?
JONATHAN POTTS: I think you have# to look to leadership that's not## being responsive to the communities# that they're supposed to be serving.
Now, to be clear, as you said, the local## prosecutor's office recognized that this# was not a fair trial.
And they were the ones## who filed the motion asking a court to throw# out Mr. Williams' conviction death sentence.
We were locked arm in arm.
And what the family# has said is they never wanted a death sentence## in the first place.
And yet here they were# 20 years over and still having to deal with## this.
The victim didn't believe in the death# penalty.
The victim's husband didn't want Mr.## Williams to be executed;.
And then the rest# of her family didn't want him to be executed.
It was state-level leaders who were pushing# this through, despite the public's concerns.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: The current governor of# Missouri, Mike Parson, supported the state's## action, was encouraging that this execution# go forward.
He put out a statement yesterday.
I want to read you a part of it.
He wrote:# "Mr. Williams has exhausted due process## and every judicial avenue, including over 15# hearings, attempting to argue his innocence## and overturn his conviction.
No jury# nor court, including at the trial,## appellate and Supreme Court levels, have ever# found merit in Mr. Williams' innocence claims."
What do you say to the governor's response there?
JONATHAN POTTS: I say that he didn't# receive due process.
And that's## exactly why the trial -- that the prosecuting# attorney's office was trying to correct this.
There was an execution that was set just a# few months ago and everyone was scrambling## trying to stop this.
And in a hearing that# just occurred just a few weeks ago, we heard## for the very first time from the original trial# prosecutor from 20 years ago where he admitted## that he had removed at least one Black juror from# the jury because, in part, that person was Black.
Now, you can talk about 20 years of due process,# but we didn't hear about that until a month ago.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: I mean, every year -- I mean,## apart from this particular case, every year,# on average, there's -- I think it's four## cases where someone who is on death row is found# to innocent, is exonerated, and is set free.
I'm just curious what you think this# case reveals about this broader system## in our country to execute people, when# the evidence really can be questioned.
JONATHAN POTTS: I think that the important# message that I hope people will take away## from this is that the public knows# that the justice system isn't perfect.
All those exonerations that you're# talking about, the public sees that,## and the public accepts it.
What the public wants# to hear is that, when the system makes a mistake,## it is going to admit that mistake, it's going to# fix it, and it's going to promise to be better.
That's not what happened here.
This is# a typical scenario where there's a fear## about admitting that you are wrong because you# think that it's going to undermine public trust,## but it's really that resistance# that's undermining the public trust.
WILLIAM BRANGHAM: All right, that is Jonathan# Potts, the lawyer for Marcellus Williams.
Thank you so much for talking with us.
JONATHAN POTTS: Thank you, William.
GEOFF BENNETT: One of the global problems## being addressed at this week's U.N.# General Assembly is the clim..
Multiple wars and other geopolitical tensions# have cast a particularly sobering shadow over## whether nations can meet meaningful# pledges they have made, but, tonight,## a more optimistic conversation# about what individuals can do.
Amna Nawaz recently spoke with marine biologist## Ayana Elizabeth Johnson about her# new book, "What If We Get It Right?"
AMNA NAWAZ: Ayana Elizabeth Johnson, welcome# to the "News Hour."
Thanks for joining us.
AYANA ELIZABETH JOHNSON, Author, "What If We Get# It Right?
: Visions of Climate Futures": Thanks for having me.
AMNA NAWAZ: So the title itself of your book kind# of refra.. change.
It forces us to imagine success,# instead of failure.
Why frame it that way?
AYANA ELIZABETH JOHNSON: I don't know if it's# success so much as possibility, right?
What if## we get it right has a question mark at the end of# it.
And I feel like at the very least we should## not assume failure and acknowledge that getting# it as right as possible absolutely matters.
This is not apocalypse or paradise.
It's# really like, how close can we get to paradise?
AMNA NAWAZ: You start the book# with this question.
You say that## you're most often asked at parties# when people find out what you do.
I'm going to use the safe for TV# version here.
The question is,## basically, how screwed are we?
So what do# you tend to say when people ask you that?
AYANA ELIZABETH JOHNSON: Well,# we're pretty screwed unless we## all roll up our sleeves and do something, right?
I mean, the place where I learned to swim,# the waters off of Southern Florida reached## 100 degrees Fahrenheit last year.
Those# are literally hot tub temperatures.
Coral## reefs cannot survive that.
All species# on this planet are evolved to have a## pretty narrow range of temperature,# salinity, humidity comfort zones.
And so we're getting to just be out of the comfort## zone of current modern life# on Earth, including humans.
I mean, there are places where it is too# hot for normal human life now.
So we're## going to have to figure out how to adapt# to be more resilient to things.
And so## getting it right is not just about stopping# things from getting worse.
It's about,how## do we adapt to this world that is already# changed and is going to continue to change?
AMNA NAWAZ: There's a short passage from your## book I want to share here that# kind of captures you.. You write: "Humans have evolved# to not leap into a void.
That's## dangerous.
So we need something firm to aim# for, something with love and joy in it.
And## we need the gumption that emerges from# an effervescent sense of possibility."
So, Ayana, when you talk about getting# it right and those possibilities,## what are those possibilities?
What's# the something firm to aim for?
AYANA ELIZABETH JOHNSON: I# think it's really important## to understand that we basically# have all the solutions.. We already know how to make energy that's# clean and renewable.
We already know how## to green buildings and be more efficient with# our energy.
We know how to do public transit,## and high-speed rail would be amazing to have# in the U.S., wouldn't it?
And composting and## bike lanes and regenerative agriculture# and protecting and restoring ecosystems.
I just want people to understand that we have# the solutions we need.
It's implementation of## those solutions that's really not up# to the pace that we need.
There's a## lack of political will that's holding us# back.
There's some cultural change that## needs to happen in order to shift the# status quo.
But it really is possible.
There are so many possible futures that are# better than the trajectory we're currently on.
So,## yes, I mean, I love that word gumption.
And# possibility is the thing that I hold on to,## even though I'm not an optimist, per# se.
I'm a scientist and a realist.
I## know that there's a lot we could each be doing# to make sure we have the best possible future.
AMNA NAWAZ: Can I ask you more# about that lack of political## will?
Because that's often where# the finger-pointing goes, right?
There's political divisions that# fuel that lack of action.
There's## enough people who don't believe that# climate change is real or that human## action could change the directions# right now.
How do you look at that?
AYANA ELIZABETH JOHNSON: Well, first# I find it, like, most jarring once you## learn that a lot of those politicians are just# pretending they don't believe it because it's## politically expedient.
They know that the# science is real.
It's just a game, right?
And to play that game with the future of# life on Earth is unforgivably reckless.## But I think the opportunity in there# is to -- we don't even really have to## talk about the climate crisis in# order to agree on the solutions.
So, for example, it is Iowa and# Texas that have the most wind## energy in the United States.
And that's not# because there's a bunch of hippies running## around.
It's because it makes economic# sense.
It's because they're good jobs.
And the same with the Inflation Reduction# Act.
It's mostly red states that are## benefiting from the surge in manufacturing,# for example, batteries for electric cars and## things like that.
I think that's what's# missing in a lot of this conversation.
AMNA NAWAZ: What about at the individual# level?
From all the conversations you## feature in your book, what do you take away# in terms of what's standing in the way of## people acting at an individual level to do what# they think they need to address climate change?
AYANA ELIZABETH JOHNSON: I think some people# think they're part of it doesn't matter.
I think some people don't know# where to start.
And to those people,## I would say it absolutely matters.
Our actions# add up.
We're voting with our dollars and our## time and how we spread the word and use# whatever influence it is that we have.
More broadly, I have sketched out something that# I call a climate action Venn diagram.
And that's## three simple circles.
And the first one is,# what are you good at?
So what are your skills,## your resources, your networks?
What can# you specifically bring to the table?
The second one is, what is the work that# needs doing?
There are hundreds of climate## injustice solutions.
So pick one and# get moving.
And the third circle is,## what brings you joy or satisfaction, right?# What gets you out of bed in the morning?## And finding each of us, that sweet spot in# the center, that's what we should be doing.
AMNA NAWAZ: The book is called# "What If We Get It Right?
:## Visions of Climate Futures."
The# author is Ayana Elizabeth Johnson.
Thank you so much for joining# us.
Good to speak with you.
AYANA ELIZABETH JOHNSON: Thank you.
GEOFF BENNETT: And that's the "News# Hour" for tonight.
I'm Geoff Bennett.
For all of us here at the "PBS News Hour,"# thanks for spending part of your evening with us.
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