[♪♪] >> I KIND OF LIGHT HEARTEDLY SAID IF HE GETS IN THE HOUSE RACE I CAN GET INTO THE SENATE RACE AND MY POLLING SHOWS I WOULD BE THE FRONTRUNNER.

>> Renee: COULD A CANDIDATE FOR THE HOUSE CHANGE RACES?

>> CERTAINLY, THE PRESIDENT'S PRESS CONFERENCE ON TYLENOL AND PREGNANCY WAS RECKLESS AND DANGEROUS.

>> Renee: THE GOVERNOR BLASTS NEW WHITE HOUSE ADVICE FOR PREGNANT WOMEN.

>> WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER TALKED ABOUT IN POLITICALLY POLARIZING TERMS AND NOW THEY ARE PART OF THE AMERICAN FAMILY.

>> Renee: AND HOW A KENTUCKY CITY IS WELCOMING ITS NEWEST U.S.

CITIZENS.

>> PRODUCTION OF "KENTUCKY EDITION" IS MADE POSSIBLE IN PART BY THE KET MILLENNIUM FUND.

[♪♪] >> Renee: GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "KENTUCKY EDITION" FOR THIS THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 25TH.

I'M RENEE SHAW AND WE HOPE YOU'VE HAD A GREAT DAY AND WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.

>>> KENTUCKY'S JUNIOR U.S.

SENATOR RAND PAUL AND FOURTH DISTRICT CONGRESSMAN THOMAS MASSIE MADE STOPS THIS WEEK ACROSS NORTHERN KENTUCKY AND BEYOND.

YESTERDAY, WE TOLD YOU ABOUT MACY'S CONTINUING PUSH TO RELEASE THE EPSTEIN FILES.

DOCUMENTS ABOUT JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND HIS TRAFFICKING OF YOUNG WOMEN AND GIRLS.

THE TWO LAWMAKERS DISCUSSED OTHER TOPICS LIKE THE POSSIBILITY OF A GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN AND IF MASSIE WOULD CONSIDER JOINING THE RACE FOR THE U.S.

SENATE IN KENTUCKY.

OUR EMILY SISK WAS IN MAYSVILLE FOR THE COMMUNITY FORUM AND HAS THE LATEST.

>> CONGRESSMAN THOMAS MASSIE MADE EIGHT CAMPAIGN STOPS ON WEDNESDAY AND THURSDAY.

INCLUDING MACEVILLE.

SENATOR RAND PAUL WHO IS NOT UP FOR REELECTION UNTIL 2028 JOINED IN FOR THE TOUR.

RECENT ARTICLES SUGGESTED MASSIE MIGHT WANT TO GET IN ON THE RACE FOR U.S.

SENATE.

THAT COMES AMID RUMORS THAT DANIEL CAMERON MAY SWITCH HIS INTEREST TO THE FOURTH CONGRESSIONAL SEAT.

>> WHAT MY POLLING SHOWS IS THAT DANIEL CAMERON IS WINNING THE SENATE RACE THAT WAS WISHFUL THINKING ON THE PART OF HIS OPPONENTS.

I KIND OF LIGHT HEARTEDLY SAID IF HE GETS IN THE HOUSE RACE I CAN GET INTO THE SENATE RACE AND MY POLLING SHOWS I WOULD BE THE FRONTRUNNER IN THAT SENATE RACE WITH THE TWO CANDIDATES.

THEY MAY HAVE MORE RESOURCES AND THAT MIGHT NOT BE HOW IT ENDS BUT I WILL KEEP MY DEGREES OPEN UNTIL JANUARY.

I'M SIGNING UP TO RUN FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.

>> REPORTERS ASKED MASSIE IF HE WOULD CONSIDER THROWING HIS HAT IN THE RING FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

>> I WOULD NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENT AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY.

I WAS THERE WITH RAND AND RON DESANTIS IT IS GRUELING AND SOME PEOPLE THINK THEY WOULD IT FOR FUN BUT THERE IS NO FUN IN THAT RACE.

>> RAND PAUL TALKED ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN WASHINGTON REGARDING THE LATEST SPENDING BILL AND THE POSSIBILITY OF A GOVERNMENT SHUT DOWN.

HE SAID ULTIMATELY HE BELIEVES ENOUGH DEMOCRATS WILL GET ONBOARD WITH THE REPUBLICAN LED SPENDING BILL TO PREVENT AN OCTOBER FIRST SHUT DOWN.

>> IT CAME TO US, IT FAILED.

THAT WAS THE REPUBLICAN PROPOSAL.

AND IT'S ABOUT A $2 TRILLION DEFICIT THE DEMOCRATS PUT ONE FORWARD $3 TRILLION DEFICIT AND I EXPECT 10 DEMOCRATS WILL VOTE FOR IT.

MOST REPUBLICANS WILL VOTE FOR IT AND I THINK IT WILL PASS.

>> PAUL WAS ONE OF TWO REPUBLICANS IN THE U.S.

SENATE TO VOTE AGAINST THE SPENDING BILL LAST WEEK.

HE SAID SUPPORTING A DEFICIT IS UNACCEPTABLE.

>> OUR GROWTH DEPENDS ON NOT HAVING THE DEBT AS AN ANCHOR.

>> MASSIE IS KNOWN AS A FISCAL HAWK IN WASHINGTON AND VOTED NO ON TRUMP'S ONE BIG, BEAUTIFUL BILL WHICH LED TO THE PRESIDENT SAYING HE WOULD ENDORSE A PRIMARY CHALLENGER AGAINST MASSIE.

THE CONGRESSMAN EXPLAINED HIS GRIEVANCES WITH THE BILL WHICH WAS SIGNED INTO LAW THIS SUMMER.

>> WHEN THEY TELL YOU IN WASHINGTON D.C.

WE CAN CUT YOUR TAXES AND INCREASE SPENDING, AND YOU WON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT, THERE WILL BE NO AFFECT ON YOUR LIVES THAT IS DEAD WRONG.

AND THAT THERE WERE MANY THINGS IN THE BIG -- I WON'T CALL IT BEAUTIFUL BILL THAT I AGREED WITH, THE TAX CUTS FROM 2017 I VOTED FOR.

BUT THIS TIME AROUND THEY FILLED IT UP WITH EXTRA SPENDING AND YOU CAN'T CUT TAXES AND INCREASE SPENDING BECAUSE YOU WILL TAX PEOPLE THROUGH INFLATION YOU WILL LOWER THE VALUE OF WHAT THEY'VE GOT.

>> MASSIE AND PAUL SAID THEY ARE AGAINST PROPOSALS PACKED INTO ONE SINGLE BILL.

WHERE LAWMAKERS MUST VOTE ALL OR NOTHING.

FOR "KENTUCKY EDITION" I'M EMILY SISK.

>> Renee: THANK YOU, EMILY.

SENATOR PAUL AND CONGRESSMAN MASSIE WRAPPED UP THEIR CAMPAIGN STOPS WITH A MEET AND GREET TODAY IN SHELBYVILLE, KENTUCKY.

>>> TRUST YOUR DOCTOR.

THAT'S GOVERNOR ANDY BESHEAR'S ADVICE TO PREGNANT WOMEN AS THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION NOW CLAIMS THERE IS A LINK BETWEEN TYLENOL USE AND AUTISM.

DOCTORS PUSHED BACK AGAINST THE CLAIM SAYING THE EVIDENCE JUST DOESN'T SUPPORT IT.

HERE IS WHAT THE GOVERNOR HAD TO SAY TODAY.

>> Gov.

Andy Beshear: CERTAINLY, THE PRESIDENT'S PRESS CONFERENCE ON TYLENOL AND PREGNANCY WAS RECKLESS AND DANGEROUS.

WE NEED OUR SCIENCE TO BE BASED IN SCIENCE.

NOT TO BE A POLITICAL AGENDA.

I'VE SAID BEFORE THAT R.F.K.

JR.

NOT QUALIFIED SHOULD NOT BE A CABINET SECRETARY OF ANYTHING AND WHAT HE IS PUSHING OUT THERE ARE GOING TO MAKE OUR FAMILIES LESS SAFE.

PLEASE, LISTEN TO YOUR DOCTOR.

YOU KNOW, I REALLY WISH YOU COULD LISTEN RIGHT NOW TO HHS OR THE C.D.C.

BUT LISTEN TO YOUR DOCTOR.

>> Renee: THE GOVERNOR WAS ALSO ASKED ABOUT TWO NEW DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES FOR THE U.S.

SENATE.

LOGAN FORSYTHE AND JOEL WILLETT.

HE SAID HE TALKED TO BOTH OF THEM BUT SAID IT'S RARE WHEN HE ENDORSES A CANDIDATE BEFORE THE DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

>>> WILL TWO PAST U.S.

SENATE CANDIDATES GET INTO THE 2026 RACE ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE?

THE LEXINGTON HERALD-LEADER REPORTS THAT AMY MCGRATH A DEMOCRAT WHO LOST TO SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL IN 2020 IS CONSIDERING THE RACE.

SHE ALSO RAN FOR THE U.S.

HOUSE IN THE SIXTH DISTRICT IN 2018 AND CHARLES BOOKER THE 2022 DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE RESIGNED AS HEAD OF THE STATE'S OFFICE OF FAITH BASED ON COMMUNITY INITIATIVES.

ON SOCIAL MEDIA HE SAID QUOTE OUR WORK IS FAR FROM DONE.

I WILL HAVE MORE TO SHARE SOON ABOUT HOW I SEE THIS MOMENT.

END QUOTE.

BOOKER LOST TO INCUMBENT RAND PAUL.

>>> YESTERDAY, THE STATE GAVE A HALF MILLION DOLLARS TO THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY'S MARQUEE CANCER FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT CANCER RESEARCH AND ASSIST FAMILIES.

AND SOME OF THE FAMILIES WERE THERE TO HEAR THE GOOD NEWS.

DETAILS IN TONIGHT'S LOOK AT MEDICAL NEWS.

>> WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE THE CHILDREN WHO ARE HERE, THE CHILDREN WHOSE PICTURES ARE BEHIND ME, AND TO LET YOU KNOW IF YOUR LOVED ONE IS NOT HERE TODAY THEY ARE STILL LOVED AND THEY ARE MISSED.

ANDY AND I BELIEVE HEALTHCARE IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT.

IT IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PRIORITIZE OUR CHILDREN.

THAT'S WHY KENTUCKY IS PUNCHING ABOVE OUR WEIGHT IN THE BATTLE ABOVE AGAINST PEDIATRIC CANCER.

THE FIRST RESEARCH ACT DESIGNATES $12.6 MILLION PER YEAR FOR CHILDHOOD CANCER RESEARCH FUNDING.

THAT'S AMAZING.

BUT IT'S NOT ENOUGH.

THAT IS WHY LAST YEAR IN OUR BUDGET, KENTUCKY DESIGNATED $10 MILLION IN STATE FUNDING FOR CHILDHOOD CANCER RESEARCH.

IN ADDITION TO FUNDING FOR RESEARCH WE DESIGNATED $4 MILLION TO SUPPORT CHILDREN FIGHTING CANCER AND THEIR FAMILIES.

KENTUCKY IS PUTTING THESE BRAVE KIDS FIRST.

WHICH IS EXACTLY HOW IT SHOULD BE.

>> IMAGINE WHAT YOU WOULD FEEL AS A PARENT WHEN YOUR FIRST GRADER, 10-YEAR-OLDS SAYS TO YOU IS THIS THE LIFE I'M GOING TO LIVE?

I'D RATHER DIE.

IT WAS DETERMINED THAT DARNELL ACCURATELY LEUKEMIA OTHERWISE KNOWN AS ALN IT WAS SHOCKING AND HEARTBREAKING.

TO OUR SURPRISE A DAY AFTER HE STARTED HIS CHEMO TREATMENTS, HE WAS ABLE TO MOVE HIS LEGS EVEN WALK TO THE BATHROOM.

AND THAT WAS OUR FIRST SIGN OF HOPE.

WE KNEW WE WERE IN GOOD HANDS.

DARNELL'S TWO-AND-A-HALF YEARS, BUT IT WAS LOOKING AT STARTED WITH THIS HOPE, BUT IT WAS NEVER AN EASY ONE.

WE WERE ABLE TO GO THROUGH IT, BECAUSE OF THE SUPPORT WE'VE RECEIVED FROM THE STATES, FROM THE DOCTORS AND NURSES.

>> I'M NOT ONLY HERE TODAY AS MAJORITY FLOOR LEADER OF THE KENTUCKY STATE SENATE BUT A CANCER DAD AND MY SON'S SIX MONTHS OF AGE WAS DIAGNOSED WITH STAGE FOUR NEUROBLASTOMA.

WE TRAVELED WITH OUR SON AND WENT THROUGH 14 ROUNDS OF CHEMO AND SIX SURGERIES AND WE KNEW THE PROGNOSIS WHEN YOU GET INTO NUMBERS THAT IS NEVER ANYTHING THAT YOU WISH TO HAVE YOUR CHILD BE PUT WITH A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT THEIR LIFE COULD BE.

YOU SIT BACK AS A LEGISLATOR AND WAIT AND UNDERSTAND THE LAY OF THE LAND AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING TO BE.

BUT ALWAYS KNEW THAT ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I DID NO MATTER HOW LONG I WOULD SERVE IN OFFICE IS REMEMBERING BACK TO THOSE WHO HELPED MY CHILD.

SO WE WERE BLESSED IN MY FIRST SESSION TO HAVE PASSED SENATE BILL 82 CREATING THE PEDIATRIC CANCER RESEARCH TRUST FUND BOARD.

WE HAVE SEEN MILLIONS GO TOWARDS PEDIATRIC DOLLARS, INVESTMENTS HERE, AND I WANT TO THANK THE UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY, THE HEALTHCARE COMMUNITY HERE THAT IS COLLABORATING WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE.

WE MAY HAVE BATTLES ON A FOOTBALL FIELD ON A BASKETBALL COURT BUT NOT WHEN IT COMES TO OUR CHILDREN.

>> Renee: THE FIRST LADY PRESENTED A PROCLAMATION FROM THE GOVERNOR'S OFFICE FOR CHILDHOOD CANCER AWARENESS MONTH.

>>> A KENTUCKY JAIL IS TURNING A PROFIT, BUT HOW?

AND A CHANGE IS ON THE WAY TO HIGH SCHOOL BASKETBALL.

OUR TOBY GIBBS HAS DETAILS IN THIS LOOK AT HEADLINES AROUND KENTUCKY.

[♪♪] >> JAIL SAYS HOUSING FEDERAL INMATES IS HELPING THE BOTTOM LINE.

THE APPALACHIAN NEWS EXPRESS REPORTS A YEAR-AND-A-HALF AGO THE STATE DECIDED TO PUT FEWER STATE PRISONERS IN JAILS WHEN PIKE COUNTY DECIDED TO TAKE FEDERAL PRISONERS.

THE JAILER SAYS THANKS TO REIMBURSEMENTS THE JAIL IS RUNNING A PROFIT OF $100,000.

HE SAYS THE JAIL CAN TAKE ON FEDERAL INMATES AND STILL HAVE ROOM FOR LOCAL PRISONERS.

>>> A DOZEN ADVOCACY GROUPS JOINED FORCES TO KICKOFF THE WELCOME HOME KENTUCKY CAMPAIGN IN DANVILLE ON SEPTEMBER 20TH.

IT'S TO CALL ATTENTION TO KENTUCKY'S HOUSING CRISIS AND TO ADVOCATE FOR LONG-TERM SOLUTIONS.

THE DANVILLE ADVOCATE MESSENGER SAYS MORE THAN 15 GROUPS TOOK PART THE GROUP WANTS PEOPLE TO KNOW ABOUT THE SHORTAGE OF HOMES AND HOUSING BARRIERS FACED BY LOW-INCOME FAMILIES.

>>> A SMALL PLANE CRASHED INTO A MAYFIELD HOME.

THE MESSENGER SAYS THE PILOT LANDED AT THE MAYFIELD AIRPORT AND COULDN'T STOP.

THE PLANE HIT THE HOUSE.

DAMAGE WAS CONSIDERABLE BUT NO ONE WAS HURT.

>>> A 35 SECOND SHOT CLOCK IS HEADED TO KENTUCKY HIGH SCHOOL VARSITY BASKETBALL BOYS AND GIRLS.

THE KENTUCKY HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION BOARD OF CONTROL VOTED 13-5 TO ADD A SHOT CLOCK DURING THE 2027-2028 SCHOOL YEAR.

THE NEWSPAPER SAYS LOCAL REACTION IS GENERALLY POSITIVE WITH SOME SAYING TEAMS ALMOST ALWAYS SHOOT THE BALL WITHIN 35 SECONDS ANYWAY.

>>> WITH HEADLINES AROUND KENTUCKY I'M TOBY GIBBS.

[♪♪] >> Renee: DOZENS OF PEOPLE WHO RECENTLY BECAME NATURALIZED U.S.

CITIZENS WERE RECOGNIZED THIS WEEK IN BOWLING GREEN.

THE CITY HOSTED ITS ANNUAL RECEPTION FOR NEW AMERICANS WHICH INCLUDED A SPECIAL PROGRAM AND VOTER REGISTRATION BOOTH.

OUR LAURA ROGERS BRINGS US MORE FROM WARREN COUNTY.

>> HE WAS EXCITED.

HAPPY TO BECOME A U.S.

CITIZEN I'M HAPPY TO HAVE MORE DOORS OPEN FOR ME.

>> VALERY GARCIA WAS BORN IN THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC AND IMMIGRATED TO THE UNITED STATES IN 2018.

>> ME AND MY MOM DECIDED TO MOVE TO THE UNITED STATES SO WE CAN HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ME SINCE I WAS ABOUT TO GRADUATE HIGH SCHOOL.

>> GARCIA GRADUATED FROM GEOINTERNATIONAL HIGH SCHOOL AND EARNED A DEGREE FROM WESTERN KENTUCKY UNIVERSITY AND IS NOW A SOCIAL WORKER.

>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE BACK.

BECAUSE WHEN I MOVED HERE WE WERE ALONE.

EVERYTHING WAS NEW TO US.

WE FIND PEOPLE TO HELP US OUT AND HELP US THROUGH THE TRANSITION FROM KNOWING THE LANGUAGE NOT KNOWING ANYTHING AROUND AND TRANSPORTATION.

>> SHE NAVIGATED THE CHALLENGES OVER THE PAST SEVEN YEARS AND ACHIEVED HER U.S.

CITIZENSHIP IN JULY.

>> LIKE A HAPPY MOMENT.

I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

PEOPLE ASK ME ARE YOU A CITIZEN.

NO, I AM A U.S.

CITIZEN I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE IT.

>> SOMETIMES IT'S A DIFFICULT JOURNEY TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BECOME A NATURALIZED U.S.

CITIZEN.

>> LEYDA BECKER IS A NATURALIZED CITIZEN FROM VENEZUELA AND WORKS AS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT MANAGER FOR THE CITY OF BOWLING GREEN.

>> IT IS A CELEBRATION FOR US BECAUSE THEY ARE OUR NEWEST CONSTITUENTS WE WANT TO RECOGNIZE THE FACT THEY ARE A PART OF OUR COMMUNITY.

AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE ARE NO LONGER TALKED ABOUT IN POLITICALLY POLARIZING TERMS.

BUT NOW THEY ARE PART OF THE AMERICAN FAMILY.

>> THE CITY TUESDAY HOSTED A RECEPTION FOR THOSE WHO EARNED THEIR CITIZENSHIP THROUGH THE PAST YEAR A PROCESS THAT IS TEDIOUS AND BUREAUCRATIC.

>> YOU HAVE TO PASS THE CITIZENSHIP TEST WHICH WAS 100 POSSIBLE QUESTIONS THAT ARE ASKED ON U.S.

HISTORY, CIVICS, GEOGRAPHY, GOVERNMENT.

SO I GOT ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HISTORY OF THE UNITED STATES, SOME POLITICS AND I WAS LIKE I DON'T KNOW MY OWN HISTORY OF MY BACK HOME.

SO I NEED TO LEARN NEW IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE IT WAS HARD BUT IT WAS WORTH IT.

>> OTHER NEW AMERICANS AGREE AS FAMILIES GATHERED TO CELEBRATE WITH SUPPORT FROM THE COMMUNITY.

>> MY MOM IS A RECENT IMMIGRANT HERE AND IT MAKES HER HAPPY DOING SEEING MY FAMILY HAPPY.

I FEEL LIKE I ACCOMPLISHED MY FAMILY DREAMS AND MY OWN DREAMS.

>> FOR "KENTUCKY EDITION" I'M LAURA ROGERS.

>> Renee: THANK YOU.

AS A NEW U.S.

CITIZEN VALERY IS MOST LOOKING FORWARD TO VOTING FOR THE FIRST TIME.

THE NATURALIZATION PROCESS INCLUDES A 760 DOLLAR FEE CITIZENSHIP EXAM, INTERVIEW PROCESS AND A THOROUGH BACKGROUND CHECK.

[♪♪] >> Renee: A LOCAL BUSINESS WOMAN SAYS THE BEST SKILL WHEN IT COMES TO LEADERSHIP ISN'T ABOUT HAVING ALL THE ANSWERS, IT'S ABOUT ASKING QUESTIONS.

IN TONIGHT'S BUSINESS BEAT OUR KELSEY STARKS INTRODUCES US TO LOUISVILLE RESIDENT AND LEADERSHIP STRATEGIST Dr.

DEBRA CLARY.

WHOSE NEW BOOK, THE CURIOSITY CURVE EXPLORES THAT CONCEPT.

>> WELL, WELCOME TO Dr.

DEBRA CLARY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YOU'VE HELD EXECUTIVE ROLES IN COCA-COLA, FRITO-LAY, HUMANA.

TELL US ABOUT YOUR BACKGROUND AND THE EXPERIENCE THAT LED YOU TO CREATE THIS BOOK?

>> YES, SO THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND TALK ABOUT A TOPIC I PASSIONATELY LOVE.

I STARTED MY CAREER OUT OF BUSINESS SCHOOL DRIVING A ROUTE TRUCK FOR FRITO-LAY.

I WENT FROM BUSINESS SCHOOLS TO BEING A TEAMSTER.

MY PARENTS WERE SO PROUD.

WHAT I WANTED TO WORK FOR A LARGE ORGANIZATION.

AND AT THAT TIME THEY WERE ONLY HIRING ROUTE DRIVERS SO I TOOK A SHOT AND THIS WAS THE MID-80s AND I GOT PROMOTED INTO MANAGING ROUTE DRIVERS AND IT SOUNDS GLAMOROUS AT THE AGE OF 22.

IF THE DRIVER DID NOT SHOW UP YOU WERE ON THE TRUCK.

DRIVING A TRUCK TAUGHT ME HOW TO RUN A BUSINESS AND I LEARNED I WAS EXPERIENCING DIFFERENTLY THAN GIRLFRIENDS WORKING FOR PROPERTY FOR AND GAMBLE THEY HAD A COMPANY CAR AND I HAD A TRUCK AND A CLIPBOARD IT BEGAN TO SET ME ON A TRAJECTORY.

AND I SPENT 10 YEARS AT FRITO-LAY IN SALES AND MARKETING AND I JOINED THE COCA-COLA COMPANY IN PHILADELPHIA AND THEN IN ATLANTA.

AND I SPENT A DECADE THERE MANAGING A GLOBAL ACCOUNT.

AND THEN I WENT TO THE HARD STUFF.

I KA I AM TO LOUISVILLE TO WORK FOR BROWN-FORMAN I MIXED MY COKE AND JACK DANIELS.

WHEN I WAS AT BROWN FOREMAN I WAS IN STRATEGY AND I BEGAN TO REALIZE THAT PEOPLE WERE LEADERS WERE DIFFERENT, CULTURES WERE DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE ORGANIZATION YOU WERE IN.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO PUT WORDS AROUND THAT.

I WENT BACK TO SCHOOL TO GET MY DOCTORATE IN LEADERSHIP AND I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW LEADERS COULD GET BETTER AND HOW WE COULD CREATE CULTURES.

SO AFTER I GRADUATED I WENT TO WORK FOR HUMANA DOWN THE STREET HERE ABOUT A BLOCK.

AND I SPENT ALMOST 17 YEARS THERE RUNNING THE LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE AND DEVELOPING LEADERS AND CULTURE.

>> WOW.

SO THE BOOK IS THE CURIOSITY CURVE.

AND THE PREMISE IS THAT BEING CURIOUS, ASKING QUESTIONS, FUELS INNOVATION, RESILIENCE AND CONNECTION.

>> YES.

>> EXPLAIN HOW SO.

>> YES.

HOW I STARTED ON THIS WAS IT WAS IN 2019 AND MY C.E.O.

TURNED TO ME AND OF A FORTUNE 50 COMPANY, $100 BILLION IN REVENUE AND SAID DO YOU THINK CURIOSITY CAN BE LEARNED OR IS IT INNATE?

AND I SAID I DON'T KNOW BUT I WAS CURIOUS.

SO I SPENT THE NEXT WEEK HAPPENED TO BE A HOLIDAY FOURTH OF JULY.

AND I JUST DUG INTO LITERATURE AND RESEARCH ON THAT QUESTION.

AND I CAME BACK THAT FOLLOWING MONDAY AND I SAID GUESS WHAT?

CURIOSITY CAN BE LEARNED.

AND THAT BEGAN THIS PATH OF HOW COULD CURIOSITY REALLY CHANGE ORGANIZATIONS?

AND SO I STARTED DOING MY OWN RESEARCH.

I THEN COMMISSIONED A GROUP OF RESEARCHERS TO LOOK AT DO PRIMARY STUDIES ON WHAT IS THE RELATEDNESS BETWEEN LEADERSHIP, PERFORMANCE AND CURIOSITY.

AND GUESS WHAT?

THERE IS A DIRECT CORRELATION AND THAT'S WHEN I KNEW IT WAS THE WORK I WAS CALLED TO DO.

AND THAT'S THE BOOK AND THE BEGINNING OF WRITING THAT BOOK.

>> THAT IS AMAZING.

I THINK THE ONE OF THE QUOTES HERE I WANT TO READ MOST OF US HAVE BECOME SO FOCUSED ON HAVING THE ANSWERS WE HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO ASK QUESTIONS AND THAT IS SO INTERESTING BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO ASK QUESTIONS SOME OF THE EXAMPLES IN YOUR BOOK OF EMPLOYEES IT NOT ONLY COMES UP WITH GREAT IDEAS BUT IT ALSO HAS THAT BUY IN.

RIGHT?

>> YES.

YES.

YOU THINK ABOUT WHO DOESN'T WANT TO BE A PART OF SOLVING A PROBLEM?

UNFORTUNATELY, LEADERS HAVE BECOME INCUR KWROS FOR A LOT OF REASONS AND ONE IS THAT WE HAVE TIME CONSTRAINTS AND HUGE PRESSURE TO HIT HUGE NUMBERS.

WHEN SOMEBODY COMES TO US AND HAS A PROBLEM AS OPPOSED TO HELPING THEM THINK THROUGH IT BY ASKING QUESTIONS WE GIVE THEM THE ANSWER.

BECAUSE THAT IS THE FASTEST WAY TO GET SOMETHING DONE.

LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT PLAYING THE LONG GAME AND LEADERSHIP IS ABOUT DEVELOPING THOSE THAT WORK FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO SOLVE PROBLEMS ON THEIR OWN.

>> SO I WANT TO DIVE MORE INTO THE BOOK ITSELF.

AND SO WHEN YOU'RE TEACHING LEADERS HOW TO BE MORE CURIOUS WHAT ARE WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN DEVELOP LIKE YOU SAID IT IS A SKILL IT'S NOT AN INNATE THING WHAT ARE THE WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN LEARN TO BE MORE CURIOUS?

>> YES.

SO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS TO UNDERSTAND HOW TO ASK QUESTIONS.

TO ASK GENUINE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ARE REALLY TRYING TO FIND THE ANSWER TO.

IT'S NOT LIKE YOU ARE AN ATTORNEY AND YOU HAVE A WITNESS ON THE STAND.

IT IS REALLY ONE ABOUT ASKING GENUINE AUTHENTIC QUESTIONS SO THAT YOU ARE LEADING THE PERSON FORWARD AND ALSO LEARNING AT THE SAME TIME.

THE BEST THING A LEADER CAN DO WHEN SOMEONE ASKS THEM A QUESTION IS TO SAY I DON'T KNOW LET'S WORK ON IT.

LET'S DISCOVER THIS OURSELVES.

WHAT YOU ARE DOING IS SHOWING VULNERABILITY.

THAT I DON'T HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS BUT IF WE WORK ON THIS WE WILL COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

>> OR I DON'T KNOW WHAT DO YOU THINK?

I USE THAT WITH MY KIDS A LOT.

>> THAT IS SUCH A PERFECT THING AND WHAT WE DO IN ORGANIZATIONS WE HAVE A CURIOSITY ASSESSMENT AND WE CAN MEASURE CURIOSITY AT THE INDIVIDUAL, TEAM AND ORGANIZATIONAL LEVEL BECAUSE IT CAN BE LEARNED WE CAN TEACH IT AND WE CAN MEASURE IT AND WE CAN GO BACK MONTHS LATER TO SEE HOW WE IMPROVED.

THE WORK I DO WITH TEAMS IS HELPING THEM UNDERSTAND CURIOSITY.

AND IT'S THERE IS A RICHNESS, THERE IS A SCIENCE BEHIND IT THERE ARE FOUR FACTORS THAT MAKEUP CURIOSITY.

WE HELP LEADERS AND TEAMS UNDERSTAND THOSE FOUR FACTORS AND THEN HOW TO MODEL IT AND TO TEACH IT.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE THAT LEADERS DO SOMETIMES FALL INTO, A LOT OF TIMES ORGANIZATIONS ARE JUST ORGANIZED WITH A HIERARCHY AND IT IS KIND OF A MANDATE FROM THE TOP DOWN.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BIGGEST MISTAKE WHEN LEADERS GET INTO THAT LIKE -- WHAT ARE THEY DOING WRONG MOST OF THE TIME AND HOW CAN THEY CORRECT IT?

>> WHAT I HAVE SEEN IS THAT THEY BECOME TELLERS.

I'M PROTECT YOU WHAT -- TELLING YOU WHAT TO DO.

VERSUS LET'S SOLVE THIS TOGETHER.

OR WHAT ARE IDEAS THAT YOU HAVE?

AND YOU GET A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN A ROOM AND BEGIN TO PROBLEM SOLVE WILL YOU GOING TO INCREASE SPEED TO GOOD IDEAS AND TO EXECUTE.

>> AND NOT TO MENTION, THE BUY IN FROM EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY TAKE OWNERSHIP ONCOMING UP WITH SOME OF THE SOLUTIONS.

I IMAGINE THAT'S WHAT MAKES EVERYTHING SKYROCKET.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

YOU NAILED IT.

>> INTERESTING.

IT'S SO COOL.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> MY PLEASURE.

>> Dr.

DEBRA CLARY'S NEW BOOK A LEADERS GUIDE TO GROWTH AND TRANSFORMATION THROUGH BOLD QUESTIONS COMES OUT OCTOBER 7TH AND YOU CAN FIND HER ASSESSMENT THAT TOOL THAT HELPS LEADERS MEASURE AND REIGNITE CURIOSITY IN THE WORKPLACE IT IS ALL AT DEBRA CLARY.COM.

BACK TO YOU.

>> Renee: THANK YOU.

LOUISVILLE'S ACTORS THEATER IS HOSTING AN EVENING WITH Dr.

DEBRA CLARY ON OCTOBER 9TH.

THAT WILL INCLUDE A CONVERSATION AND Q AND A WITH ACTORS THEATER LEADERSHIP TO CELEBRATE THE BOOK RELEASE.

[♪♪] ANTICIPATING THE WEATHER IN WESTERN KENTUCKY JUST GOT A BIT EASIER.

A NEW WEATHER STATION IS UP IN HANCOCK COUNTY LEARN MORE ABOUT THE MESONET SYSTEM HOW PEOPLE CAN USE THIS TOOL THAT STORY AND MUCH MORE TOMORROW NIGHT ON "KENTUCKY EDITION."

WE ARE SO CLOSE TO THE WEEKEND.

WE HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT FRIDAY AT 6:30 EASTERN 5:30 CENTRAL FOR "KENTUCKY EDITION" WHERE WE INFORM, CONNECT AND INSPIRE AND WE HOPE YOU WILL LOOK FOR US ON THE SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS, FACEBOOK, X AND INSTAGRAM TO STAY IN THE LOOP AND WE INVITE YOU TO SEND US A STORY IDEA BY E-MAIL TO PUBLIC AFFAIRS AT KET.ORG.

AND MAKE SURE YOU DOWNLOAD OUR CONTENT ON KET.ORG AND THE PBS VIDEO APP AND THE KET APP TO KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP AND KEEP YOU ENTERTAINED AND INFORMED.

I'M OFF TOMORROW BUT I WILL SEE YOU ON MONDAY.

I HOPE YOU HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND TO COME AND TAKE REALLY GOOD CARE.

UNTIL I SEE YOU AGAIN, SO LONG.

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