>> A MAX OF $175,000, 2,000 DOLLARS DOLLARS FOR EVERY YEAR HE HAS DID.

THAT'S GROSSLY INADEQUATE.

>> THE REFORM COULD HELP FREE MORE INMATES WITH STORIES SIMILAR TO GLENN'S.

>> A FRIEND OF SIMMONS DROVE GLENN TO TULSA.

THE TWO PREVIOUSLY SERVED JAIL TIME TOGETHER.

>> HE TRANSITIONS TO LIFE OUTSIDE OF PRISON, HE'LL CONTINUE TO RELY ON SUPPORT OF FAMILY AND FRIEND.

>> I HAD A REAL GOOD SUPPORT SYSTEM, WITH MY FAMILY AND ATTORNEY AND OTHER PEOPLE, WHO ASSISTED.

>> I ASKED GLYNN SIMMONS WHAT HIS FIRST MEAL WAS POST-JAIL LIFE.

HE DESIRED SHRIMP PO BOYS, FRIED OYSTERS, AND A BEER, REMINDING HIM OF HIS OLD HOME IN LOUISIANA.

RICH.

>> GLYNN SIMMONS' STORY IS UNUSUAL IN OKLAHOMA.

EXONERATION, HAVING YOUR CASE DISMISSED, RECEIVING A NEW TRIAL FOLLOWING A CONVICTION: IT DOESN'T HAPPEN OFTEN--- SHOULD IT HAPPEN MORE- AND WHAT ABOUT THE RIGHTS AND FEELINGS OF VICTIMS AND THEIR FAMILIES?

THAT'S THE TOPIC OF OUR UPCOMING "INDEPTH" CONVERSATION WITH MODERATOR CASSIDY MUDD.

HERE'S A PREVIEW: .

>> SINCE NOBODY'S EVER WILLING TO ADMIT THEY MADE A MISTAKE, THEN OFTEN THE VICTIM'S FAMILY MEMBERS ARE LESS LEFT IN A POSITION WHERE THEY CONTINUE TO BELIEVE IN SOMEBODY'S GUILT, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE SHOWS THAT IT IS UNLIKELY THAT PERSON COMMITTED THE CRIME.

>> OUR LEGAL SYSTEM FEELS LIKE IF THEY ADMIT GUILT AT ANY POINT IN TIME, OR IF THEY STAND UP AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT?

WE HAD SOMEBODY BACK THEN THAT WAS INEFFECTIVE, OR SOMEBODY THAT WAS WILLING TO LIE TO GET A CONVICTION OR SOMEBODY THAT WAS WILLING TO TWIST THE TRUTH.

IF WE STAND UP AND SAY THAT, THEN THAT MAKES OUR LEGAL SYSTEM FAULTED.

MY BELIEF IS THAT IF YOU STAND UP AND ADMIT WHEN YOU DID GO WRONG AND CORRECT THAT WRONG, THEN THERE'S MORE TRUST AND FAITH IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM.

>> THE REST OF THAT CONVERSATION, COMING UP IN JUST A FEW MINUTES.

>>> STATE SUPERINTENDENT RYAN WALTERS HAS SAID PUBLICLY THAT IF THE TULSA PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM DOESN'T IMPROVE-- HE'LL TAKE IT OVER.

DR. EBONY JOHNSON, THE INTERIM TPS SUPERINTENDENT, SAYS SHE WILL DO EVERYTHING IN HER POWER TO PREVENT THAT FROM HAPPENING.

EDUCATION REPORTER TAELYR JACKSON SAT DOWN WITH JOHNSON FOR AN EXTENSIVE INTERVIEW AS SHE SETTLES INTO HER NEW ROLE.

>> FOR MORE THAN 20 YEARS, SHE'S PURSUED HER PASSION FOR EDUCATION WITH PUBLIC SCHOOLS AS A TEACHER, THE DIRECTOR OF FAMILY AND SUPPORT SERVICES, AND CHIEF LEARNING OFFICER.

THIS MONTH SHE TOOK ON A NEW ROLE.

>> I LOVE TULSA, I'VE BEEN A TULSAEN AS AN EDUCATOR FOR MANY YEARS.

THIS TO ME IS EVEN MORE OF THE AMAZING WORK I'M ABLE TO ENGAGE IN.

>> THE TULSA NATIVE GRADUATED FROM MCCLAIN HIGH SCHOOL IN 1994.

>> I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES AS A FORMER TEACHER AND I WOULD SAY AS A SCHOOL PRINCIPAL I'VE UNDERSTOOD THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACED IN THE SCHOOLS AND THE BEAUTY OF SEEING AWESOMENESS OUT OF THE CHALLENGES.

BECAUSE OF THAT, I'M BEST POSITIONED IN THIS ROLE TO UNDERSTAND THE PATH FORWARD.

>> WE WANT YOU TO SOLVE.

IF YOU WON'T, WE WILL.

>> IT BEGAN IN A CLOUD OF -- SITS ON THE BOARD BY VIR WHICH YOU OF THE ELECTED POSITION, THREATENED -- UNLESS CHANGES WERE MADE.

>> WHAT WOULD SUM UP THE NEXT SET OF VISION AND DIRECTION IN THREE R'S.

THE FIRST R, WE HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE.

IT'S CRITICALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW THE 33,000, 34,000 STUDENTS IN THE SCHOOLS EVERY DAY, WE HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR EDUCATIONAL NEEDS.

WE NEED TO BE RESULT ORIENTED AND WE WILL BE.

THERE'S A LOT OF EXPECTATION THAT WE PLACE ON OURSELVES AS WE SHOULD.

AND SO, THE LAST R IS RESILIENCE.

THE BEST THING IS TO TELL OUR TRUE STORY, THAT'S, WE ARE A GREAT SET OF SCHOOLS, A GREAT CITY AND A GREAT STATE.

WE DO HAVE OUR CHALLENGES AND THERE'S WORK TO BE DONE.

>> THE EDUCATION MEETING, THEY WERE GRANTED -- THEY MET WITH JOHNSON IN PERSON TO DISCUSS THE DISTRICT'S FUTURE.

>> DECIDED TO COME TO TULSA IN ORDER TO ONE, MEET ME IN PERSON AND ALSO NOT ONLY LAY OUT EXPECTATIONS, BUT THEN ALSO OFFER SUPPORT FOR WHAT THE EXPECTATIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE.

HE REASSURED THE PUBLIC SCHOOL THAT HE'S HERE, IN ORDER TO SEE US, MEETING THE GOALS THAT WE HAVE OUTLINES TO MEET FOR THE STUDENTS.

OVERALL -- >> IN THE LAST MEETING, HE WAS CALLING FOR QUITE AT A BIT OF CHANGE IN A SHORT COUPLE OF MONTHS.

DO YOU THINK THAT'S REASONABLE OR DOABLE FOR THE SCHOOL DISTRICT?

>> WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMUNICATE, THE THREE EXPECTATIONS THIS WERE LINED OUT.

CENTERED AROUND INTERNAL STROLL AND THE FISCAL RESPONSIBILITIES, COUPLED WITH ENSURING THAT OUR PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE SCIENCE OF READING IS KNOWN AND UNDERSTOOD.

AND THE CORRECTIVE ACTION OF THE SCHOOLS THAT HAVE NOT SEEN -- WE HAVE DISCUSSED THOSE LEVELS OF EXPECTATIONS.

AND IN ADDITION TO THAT, I WOULD SAY IT COMES TO THE TIME LINE, WE DIDN'T SOLIDIFY THE ACTUAL TIME LINE OF THE RESULTS NEED TO BE.

BUT THERE WAS COMMUNICATION AROUND, WE NEED TO MOVE.

>> SHE HAS HER OWN EXPECTATIONS FOR THE LARGEST DISTRICT IN THE STATE.

>> DIGGING DEEPER IN THE LITERACY PIECE IT'LL BE DOUBLING DOWN ON THE PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT THE TEACHERS ARE GETTING.

AND TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE CERTIFIED TEACHERS, THE NOVICE TEACHERS ARE GETTING MORE SUPPORT FOR UNDERSTANDING THE SCIENCE OF READING AND KNOWING HOW TO SUPPORT STUDENTS WHO ARE DEMONSTRATING STRUGGLES.

>> JOHNSON IS NO STRANGER TO MAKING CHANGES FOR THE DISTRICT.

IN 2017, SHE OVERSAW KEY INITIATIVES IN A DECREASE OF OUT OF SCHOOL SUSPENSIONS.

SHE WORKS TO GET THE DISTRICT BACK ON TRACK, WALTERS TESTIFIED IN WASHINGTON, DC LAST WEEK, REGARDING THE VIEW THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT HAS INFLUENCE IN THE AMERICAN CLASSROOM.

>> TULSA PUBLIC SCHOOLS NAMED IN THE REPORT, MY STAFF DILIGENTLY SKUKTED A -- DISCOVERED A DISTURBING CONNECTION.

>> CLEAR THE AIR OR EXPLAIN WHAT THIS CLASSROOM IS CALLED.

WE'RE GRATEFUL TO HAVE A TEACHER WHO WAS SHOWING THE STUDENTS HAVE ACCESS TO LEARN ABOUT VARIOUS CULTURES AND TRADITIONS AND THE BEAUTY AND DIVERSITY.

>> THE CLASSROOM IS A CHINAS LANGUAGE AND -- CHINESE LANGUAGE AND CULTURAL -- AT HER URGING IN AUGUST, THEY VOTED TO REQUIRE THE SCHOOL DISTRICT TO REPORT FUNDS RECEIVED FROM FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND THIRD PARTY VENDORS.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> CORPORATION COMMISSIONER BOB ANTHONY IS CALLING ON GOVERNOR STITT TO ORDER AN INDEPENDENT AUDIT OF "OKLAHOMA NATURAL GAS" RELATED TO A 2021 WINTER STORM.

ANTHONY BELIEVES RATE-PAYERS MAY HAVE BEEN OVERCHARGED MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

JASON DOYLE JOINS US NOW WITH MORE ON ANTHONY'S SCATHING 14-PAGE OPINION.

JASON?

>> IN HIS DISSENTING OPINION HERE, COMMISSIONER BOB ANTHONY CONTENDS RATE PAYERS GETTING A BAD DEAL WHEN IT COMES TO DEFERRING THE COSTS OF WINTER STORM URI IN 2021.AND HE SAYS THE CORPORATION COMMISSION ISN'T DOING ENOUGH TO MAKE SURE UTILITY COMPANIES ARE NOT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF CUSTOMERS.

IF YOU HAVE CHECKED THE LINE ITEMS ON YOUR ELECTRIC OR NATURAL GAS BILLS LATELY.YOU'LL FIND AN ENTRY CALLED "WINTER EVENT COST RECOVERY".

USUALLY EACH MONTH, RESIDENTIAL RATEPAYERS ARE ASKED TO PAY BETWEEN $3 TO $10 A MONTH TO HELP RECOVER COSTS DUE TO FEBRUARY 2021'S WINTER STORM URI.

THE LEGISLATURE PASSED AND THE GOVERNOR SIGNED LEGISLATION ALLOWING UTILITY COMPANIES THE CHANCE TO SPREAD THE BILLIONS IN FUEL COSTS OVER 20 YEARS OR LONGER.

SO RATEPAYERS WOULD NOT HAVE TO PAY OVERSIZED BILLS ONCE OKLAHOMA BEGAN DEFROSTING FROM THE WINTER WEATHER.

IN A DISSENTING OPINION ON A RECENT RATE CASE FOR OKLAHOMA NATURAL GAS.OKLAHOMA CORPORATION COMMISSIONER BOB ANTHONY SAYS RESIDENTIAL CUSTOMERS ARE BEING RIPPED OFF.

>> IN THE 35 YEARS THAT I'VE BEEN A COMMISSIONER, THE LARGEST FLEECING OF UTILITY CONSUMERS AND RATEPAYERS HAS BEEN THIS WINTER STORM URI IN FEBRUARY OF 2021.

>> ANTHONY SAYS THERE ARE MAJOR COST OVERRUNS AND A LACK OF OVERSIGHT IN HOW THE BONDS ARE BEING HANDLED.

>> PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BEING CHARGED WITH AND THE TRUTH AND THE FACTS HAVE NOT BEEN TOLD.

STATE AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE CORPORATION COMMISSION, HAVE PUT THEIR HEAD IN THE SAND AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FORTHRIGHT.

>> HE ALSO SAYS THAT THE ONE-PAGE "AUDIT" ON THE FUEL RECOVERY BOND PROGRAM DOESN'T GO FAR ENOUGH AND IS CALLING FOR A FULL AUDIT.

>> THE LAW REQUIRES A LEGITIMATE INDEPENDENT AUDIT AND WE DON'T HAVE THAT.

AND SO I'M INSISTING THAT WE MEET THE REQUIREMENT IN THE LAW AND I DON'T THINK THAT MY OTHER TWO COMMISSIONERS ARE GONNA VOTE TO DO IT.

AND SO THE LEGISLATURE COULD VOTE TO DO IT, THE GOVERNOR COULD CALL IT, LET'S GET IT DONE.

>> THE CHAIRMAN OF THE OKLAHOMA CORPORATION COMMISSION, TODD HIETT, FEELS ANTHONY COULD BE MISINTERPRETING THE SPECIFIC LEGISLATION WHICH DIRECTED THE COMMISSION'S APPROACH TO A "SO-CALLED" AUDIT.

>> THIS AUDIT AS REQUIRED BY STATUTE, IS AN AUDIT OF THE BOND PAYMENTS.

THE OTHER THING COMMISSIONER, IT COMMISSIONER ANTHONY TAKES ISSUE WITH IS THAT IT'S CALLED AN AUDIT.

I DIDN'T NAME IT AN AUDIT.

THE CORPORATION COMMISSION DIDN'T NAME IT AN AUDIT.

THE STATUTE ITSELF CALLS IT AN AUDIT, SO THEREFORE WE HAVE REFERRED TO IT AS AN AUDIT.

BUT IT'S VERY, IT, IT'S REALLY JUST A SIMPLE FINANCIAL CALCULATION TO ASSURE THAT THE PROPER COLLECTIONS WERE MADE OF RATEPAYERS.

>> HIETT HAS NO PROBLEM WITH TAKING A SECOND LOOK INTO THE BOND PROGRAM TO INSURE UTILITIES ARE SUBJECTED TO A PROPER LEVEL OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

>> NOW, I HAVE WELCOMED, AS A MATTER OF FACT, CLOSE TO A YEAR AGO, I, I TALKED TO OUR, OUR STATE AUDITOR ABOUT POTENTIALLY DOING AN AUDIT BECAUSE COMMISSIONER ANTHONY WAS RAISING MAJOR CONCERNS AT THAT TIME.

AND I CERTAINLY WOULD WELCOME AN AUDIT TO, TO ASSURE THAT THE CORPORATION COMMISSION HAS DONE EVERYTHING CORRECTLY.

>> ANTHONY SAYS HE CAME TO HIS CONCLUSION THAT THERE ARE NEARLY A BILLION DOLLARS IN COST OVERRUNS AND THAT UTILITIES MIGHT BE MAKING MONEY FROM THE SECURITIZATION OF FUEL COSTS.BECAUSE HE COMPARED WHAT WAS PAID TO THE PROPOSED CONTRACT.

>> I WANT TO COMPLIMENT THE STATE TREASURER, BOTH THE PREVIOUS ONE AND, AND TODD RUSS.

THEY HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL IN GIVING ME ACTUAL DOCUMENTS OF WHAT THEY PAID.

AND THEN I HAD TO WORK TO GET THE DOCUMENTS FROM AN R F P TO SEE WHAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID.

AND THEY'RE NOT THE SAME POLITELY.

I CALL THAT A DISCREPANCY.

>> HIETT SAYS ANTHONY HAS A POINT ON THE COST OVERRUNS OF THE BONDS.BUT THAT WAS BECAUSE OF AN UNSTABLE BOND MARKET AT THAT TIME.

>> THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN REVIEWED AND, AND THAT IS CORRECT.

THERE WERE NOW COMMISSIONER ANTHONY REFERS TO IT AS COST OVERRUNS.

BUT REALLY WHAT THAT AMOUNTED TO WAS THERE WERE ESTIMATES MADE OF WHAT THE BONDS WOULD COST.

IT WAS BASED ON AN INTEREST RATE MARKET THAT WAS INCREASING RAPIDLY DURING THIS PERIOD OF TIME.

>> ANTHONY'S OWN LAWSUIT AGAINST THE SECURITIZATION OF THE FUEL COSTS.ALSO ADDED TO THE BONDING COSTS ACCORDING TO HIETT.

>> YOU SAW MAJOR DELAYS IN THE ISSUANCES OF THE BONDS BECAUSE OF THE SUPREME COURT CASE.

THE SUPREME COURT CHALLENGES THAT COMMISSIONER ANTHONY AND SOME OF HIS COHORTS BROUGHT AGAINST THE BONDS AT THE SUPREME COURT, IT'S ABOUT $850 MILLION, JUST, JUST BETWEEN THE INTEREST COST AND THE DELAY AT THE SUPREME COURT, THAT WAS ABOUT 850 MILLION.

>> INTEREST RATES HAD DOUBLED BY THE TIME THE OKLAHOMA SUPREME COURT GAVE THE "GO AHEAD" TO ISSUE THE BONDS, NEARLY TWO YEARS AFTER WINTER STORM URI HIT.

>> AT THE TIME WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING SECURITIZATION BACK IN THE LATE SPRING SUMMER OF 21 INTEREST RATES, IT APPEARED THAT WE COULD GET IN THE TWOS AND SUDDENLY THEY CONTINUED TO RISE THROUGH 22.

AND BY THE TIME OF ISSUANCE, WE ENDED UP IN, WELL, IN SOME CASES IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IT WAS 4.5%.

>> ANTHONY SAYS THE CORPORATION COMMISSION SHIRKED ITS DUTY WHEN IT APPROVED THE SECURITIZATION OF THE FUEL COSTS.AND THE RATEPAYERS DESERVE BETTER.

>> IT WAS A JOKE, IT'S AN INSULT.

IT'S ALSO A FINANCIAL FLEECING OF OKLAHOMA RATE PAYERS.

AND THAT'S WHY WE NEED AN HONEST PRUDENCE REVIEW.

>> AS OF FRIDAY MORNING, THE GOVERNOR, NOR LEGISLATIVE LEADERS HAVE CALLED FOR THE MORE EXTENSIVE AUDIT OF THE WINTER STORM COSTS BOND PROGRAM.

RICH.

>>> TRUST FOR AMERICA'S HEALTH" HAS RELEASED ITS 20TH ANNUAL "OBESITY REPORT"-- AND OKLAHOMANS, AND AMERICANS IN GENERAL, OF ALL AGES-- CONTINUE TO PUT ON WEIGHT.

THIS WEEK, I SPOKE WITH DR. NADINE GARCIA ABOUT OKLAHOMA'S OBESITY RATE-- WHICH IS THE 3RD HIGHEST IN THE NATION.

>> DR. NADINE GARCIA, PRESIDENT AND CEO FOR THE TRUST FOR AMERICA'S HEALTH.

WHAT ARE THE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS TO OKLAHOMA BEING THE SECOND MOST OVERWEIGHT STATE IN THE NATION AND THE THIRD MOST OBESE?

>> OBESITY IS A COMPLEX DISEASE, AND THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OBESITY.

IT'S ACTUALLY FACTORS BEYOND JUST GENETICS AND, AND INDIVIDUAL BEHAVIOR.

IT REALLY MUCH OF IT HAVING TO DEAL WITH SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC AND STRUCTURAL FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OBESITY.

WHEN WE LOOK AT ISSUES LIKE POVERTY OR FINANCIAL HARDSHIPS FOR FAMILIES WHERE THEY'RE LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD HEALTHY AND NUTRITIOUS FOODS.

>> SO THEN OKLAHOMA'S NOT DOING A GOOD JOB IN PROVIDING SOME OF THOSE THINGS?

>> CERTAINLY OKLAHOMA AS WELL AS STATES ACROSS THE NATION ARE, ARE FACING AND SEEING RISING RATES OF OBESITY AMONG ADULTS AS WELL AS AMONG CHILDREN.

.THERE'S PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE, BUT THE PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS REALLY FUNDING AND INVESTING IN PROVEN OBESITY PREVENTION PROGRAMS THAT WE KNOW WORK.

FOR EXAMPLE, THE NUTRITION SUPPORT PROGRAMS LIKE THE WOMEN INFANTS CHILDREN'S PROGRAM, WHICH HAS SHOWN TO ACTUALLY REDUCE OBESITY AMONG CHILDREN.

THE PERCENTAGE OF KIDS WHO ARE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT PROGRAM, MANY MORE KIDS ACTUALLY COULD BE PARTICIPATING IN THAT PROGRAM WHO AREN'T.

AND SO WE NEED TO WORK ON, FOR EXAMPLE, REDUCING THOSE KIND OF ADMINISTRATIVE HURDLES AND BARRIERS THAT MANY FAMILIES FACE TO BEING ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS.

>> DR. GARCIA, BEFORE WE GO ANY FURTHER, JUST DEFINE OBESITY FOR US AND, AND HOW MANY AMERICANS ARE CONSIDERED OBESE?

>> AN INDIVIDUAL'S BODY FAT AND THEIR BODY DIS, FAT DISTRIBUTION IS, IS HIGHER THAN WHAT'S CONSIDERED A, A HEALTHY LEVEL.

NOW THIS ISN'T REALLY ABOUT BODY SIZE, BUT IT'S REALLY ABOUT UNDERSTANDING HOW DO YOU MAINTAIN A HEALTHY WEIGHT?

AND, AND BY UTILIZING THAT INDEX, WHICH IS UNIVERSALLY AVAILABLE IN SCREENING, IT HELPS GIVE AN UNDERSTANDING AS A POPULATION HEALTH MEASURE, HOW DO YOU DIRECT RESOURCES, WHAT TYPES OF STRATEGIES THAT YOU WOULD USE FOR OBESITY PREVENTION?

>> SO WHAT ARE THE NUMBERS?

HOW HAS IT GONE UP?

WOULD YOU SAY IT'S GONE UP DRAMATICALLY OR STEADILY?

>> OVER THE PAST TWO DECADES, THE RATES OF ADULTS LIVING WITH OBESITY HAS INCREASED BY 37%.

AND AMONG CHILDREN IT'S INCREASED BY 42%.

WHERE WE ARE NOW AS A NATION IS THAT SLIGHTLY OVER FOUR IN 10 ADULTS HAVE OBESITY, AND 22 STATES NOW HAVE OB OBESITY AMONG ADULTS AT A RATE OF 35% OR HIGHER.

>> SO DOCTOR, WHAT ABOUT SOME OF THESE NEW DRUGS WE'RE HEARING ABOUT WHAT WEGOVY, MUJARO.

ARE YOU A, A PROPONENT OF THOSE AS A, AS A WAY TO COMBAT OBESITY?

>> THERE ARE THESE NEW MEDICATIONS THAT ARE, ARE COMING INTO TO USE IN, IN HEALTHCARE AND THEY HAVE THE POTENTIAL REALLY TO TRANSFORM WHAT WE THINK ABOUT AS WE THINK ABOUT THE TREATMENT MANAGEMENT AND TREATMENT OF OBESITY, THERE'S MUCH MORE THAT'S BEING LEARNED, MORE RESEARCH THAT'S BEING DONE.

WE ALSO NEED TO FOCUS ON PREVENTION.

AND THE CHALLENGE IS WE HAVEN'T INVESTED AS A NATION IN PREVENTION THE WAY THAT WE SHOULD.

AS AN EXAMPLE, ONE OF THE LEADING OBESITY PREVENTION PROGRAMS THAT'S FUNDED THROUGH THE CENTERS FOR DISEASE CONTROL AND PREVENTION FUNDING STATES ONLY HAS ENOUGH FUNDING TO BE ABLE TO FUND 16 STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

AND YET THIS IS A NATIONAL ISSUE THAT EVERY STATE IS, IS ADDRESSING.

>> WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT WHAT GOVERNMENT CAN DO.

WHAT ABOUT THE INDIVIDUAL?

I MEAN, THERE HAS TO BE SOME PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY IN THIS AS WELL?

>> THERE ARE MULTIPLE FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO OBESITY, MANY THAT ARE BEYOND PERSONAL CHOICE.

AND YES, WE CAN ALL TAKE MEASURES TO HAVE ACTIVE HEALTHY LIVES, WHETHER THAT'S, YOU KNOW, HEALTHY NUTRITIOUS DIETS AS WELL AS ENGAGING IN PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.

BUT WHEN YOU SEE THESE TYPES OF INCREASING RATES OF OBESITY ACROSS POPULATION GROUPS THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES, THERE ARE STRUCTURAL AND SYSTEMIC BARRIERS THAT WE ALSO NEED TO ADDRESS.

>> MAKING HEALTHY SCHOOL MEALS, FOR EXAMPLE, ACCESSIBLE FOR ALL STUDENTS, MAKING THAT PERMANENT POLICY LOOKING AT EXPANDING, FOR EXAMPLE, ACCESS TO HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE WHERE FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE, MILLIONS STILL DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO HEALTH INSURANCE COVERAGE OR EXPANDING MEDICAID.

THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA, JUST IN IN THE PAST TWO YEARS, EXPANDED MEDICAID, INCREASING ACCESS TO COVERAGE.

SO EVERYONE HAS A ROLE TO PLAY REALLY IN IMPROVING OUR SYSTEMS AND THEIR STRUCTURES TO ASSURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS HEALTHY AND NUTRITIOUS FOODS AND TO ENGAGE IN PHYSICAL ACTIVITY.

>> DR. NADINE GARCIA, PRESIDENT AND CEO FOR THE TRUST FOR AMERICA'S HEALTH.

A LOT OF CHALLENGES AHEAD, BUT WE INFORMATION.

DR: THANK YOU RICH, VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

IT WAS GREAT BEING WITH YOU.

>>> BANK CUSTOMERS IN OKLAHOMA HIT WITH A LARGE DATA BREACH THAT SPANS FIVE STATES.

JASON DOYLE HAS DETAILS ON THAT, AND OTHER BREAKING BUSINESS NEWS-- IN THIS WEEK'S "OKLAHOMA BUSINESS REVIEW".

>> THE SENSITIVE PERSONAL DATA OF MORE THAN 753,000 BANK CUSTOMERS HAS BEEN COMPROMISED DUE TO A DATA BREACH OF THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTION SERVICE CORPORATION, OR FISC.

THE DATA, WHICH INCLUDES SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBERS AND ACCOUNT INFORMATION INVOLVES 37 BANKS LOCATED IN FIVE STATES, INCLUDING OKLAHOMA.

AMONG THE BANKS IMPACTED IN THE SOONER STATE;.AMERICAN BANK & TRUST COMPANY, AMERICAN BANK AND CITIZENS BANK AND TRUST.

ONEOK HAS COMPLETED ITS PREVIOUSLY ANNOUNCED ACQUISITION OF MAGELLAN MIDSTREAM PARTNERS.

THE $18.8 MILLION MERGER CREATES ONE OF THE LARGEST OIL AND GAS PIPELINE COMPANIES IN THE UNITED STATES.

MAGELLEN SHAREHOLDERS RECEIVED $25 AND TWO THIRDS OF A SHARE OF ONEOK STOCK FOR EACH UNIT OF MAGELLAN STOCK.

OKNEOK HAS HIRED FORMER DEVON ENERGY EXECUTIVE LYNDON C. TAYLOR, AS ITS NEW EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT AND CHIEF LEGAL COUNSEL.

TAYLOR WILL REPORT DIRECTLY TO ONEOK'S PRESIDENT AND CEO, PIERCE NORTON.

TAYLOR HAS NEARLY 40 YEARS OF LEGAL EXPERIENCE, PRIMARILY IN THE ENGERGY FIELD.

PROFESSIONAL'S CHOICE, AN EQUINE EQUIPMENT MANUFACTURER IS MOVING IT'S CORPORATE HEADQUARTERS FROM SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA TO OKLAHOMA CITY.

THE FAMILY-OWNED BUSINESS CURRENTLY EMPLOYS MORE THAN 50 WORKERS AND SAYS IT INTENDS TO HIRE 20 OR 30 MORE IN THE COMING YEARS.

THE RE-LOCATION IS EXPECTED TO BE COMPLETED BY APRIL OF 2024.

>>> IN THIS WEEK'S "INDEPTH" CONVERSATION, WE DISCUSS "EXONERATION" FOR PEOPLE CONVICTED OF CRIMES IN OKLAHOMA.

HOW OFTEN DOES IT HAPPEN?

AND DOES IT HAPPEN TOO OFTEN, OR NOT OFTEN ENOUGH?

WE'RE PLEASED THIS WEEK TO WELCOME THE NEWEST MEMBER OF OUR "OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT" FAMILY.

MODERATOR CASSIDY MUDD, WITH THIS WEEK'S PANEL OF GUESTS.

CASSIDY.IT'S ALL YOURS!

>> THANKS, HAPPY TO BE A PART OF THE TEAM.

THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING US.

>> HOW DIFFICULTY IS IT TO GET A NEW TRIAL IN OKLAHOMA?

>> IT'S VERY DIFFICULTY.

ONCE A JURY HAS MADE A DETERMINATION OF GUILT YOU HAVE TO COME UP WITH REALLY SUBSTANTIAL NEW EVIDENCE OF INNOCENCE MEANING IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED AT TRIAL.

AND THEN MANEUVER THROUGH A COURT SYSTEM WHERE THE JUDGES ARE ACCUSTOMED TO CORRECTING LEGAL ERROR OR FACT ERROR.

THE JURY VERDICT NEEDS TO STAND.

IT'S A HIGH BURDEN YOU FACE TO GET A NEW TRIAL AND TRYING TO GET EXONERATED ADDS TO WHAT WE HAVE TO SHOW.

>> WHAT DOES THE PROCESS LOOK LIKE?

>> FOR MOST OF THE CASES, WHAT WE DO IS, WE GET A REQUEST FROM AN INMATE, WE CURRENTLY HAVE A 500 CASE BACK LOG.

AND STUDENTS IN THE CLINIC WORK WITH ME, IF I DECIDE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE A PATH TO INNOCENCE, WE BEGIN AN INVESTIGATION.

WE COLLECT RECORDS, HIRE INVESTIGATORS, WE INTERVIEW WITNESSES, OFTEN INTERVIEWING WITNESSES WHO HAVE NOT BEEN INTERVIEWED BEFORE.

TRYING TO GET NEW INFORMATION.

ON THE CASES OF ACTUAL INNOCENCE, WHAT I'M FINDINGS IS, USUALLY THE PIECES FALL INTO PLACE.

SOMEONE REACHES OUT AND INTERVIEWS PEOPLE, AND LOOKS BACK AND REINVESTIGATING THE CASE, TYPICALLY THE EVIDENCE JUST KIND OF LEADS TO MORE EVIDENCE TO MORE EVIDENCE AND WE CAN MAKE WHAT WE BELIEVE A CASE OF INNOCENCE.

AND AT THAT POINT, WE GO IN STATE POST CONVICTION.

THAT'S THE MECHANISM TO GET BACK IN TO COURT.

THE DIFFICULTY WITH THAT IS, IF YOU WAITED TOO LONG, THE COURT THROWS TOUT CASE.

-- OUT THE CASE.

YOU'RE AGAINST THE CLOCK EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT.

WE HAVE THE ADDED DIFFICULTY OF ONE YEAR STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS.

WHILE WE KNOW WHAT CAUSES WRONGFUL CONVICTIONS, THE COURT SYSTEM HAS NOT CAUGHT UP YET, WITH WHAT WE KNOW HAPPENS.

AND ALLOWING A COURT THE AUTHORITY TO TRY TO FACT CORRECT ESSENTIALLY IN THESE CASES.

>> WHAT ARE THINGS THAT CAN CAUSE A WRONGFUL CONVICTION?

>> EYE WITNESS EVIDENCE IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR.

OFTEN THE WITNESSES TRYING TO BE HELPFUL CAN PICK OUT THE WRONG PERSON.

WE'RE NOT GOOD AT IDENTIFYING PEOPLE.

FAULTY CASES, THE CONVICTIONS BASED ON FALSE HAIR COMPARISON, THEY WERE NOT RELIABLE.

AND A LOT OF CASES ARE ALSO IMPACTED BY THE INEFFECTIVE TRIAL COUNSEL.

WE'RE TRYING TO GO BACK AND CONDUCT AFTER THE FACT.

>> REPRESENTATIVE, YOU GOT A CLOSE UP LOOK AT THE PROCESS.

CAN YOU SPEAK A BIT OF YOUR EXPERIENCE AND WHAT YOU LEARNED?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK SOME OF THE BIGGEST REASONS IN THE CASE IS INEFFECTIVE COUNSEL.

THEY DIDN'T DO ANY INVESTIGATION.

THEY RELIED ON THE INVESTIGATION DONE BY LAW ENFORCEMENT, WHICH WAS NOT ADEQUATE IN AND OF ITSELF.

THE BOX OF TEN ITEMS OF EVIDENCE, IN BETWEEN THE TWO TRIALS.

WHY DO WE ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN.

NO ONE FILED CHARGES BY PEOPLE WHO MISPLACED OR DESTROYED THE EVIDENCE.

ONE OF THE PROSECUTORS HAD A WITNESS CHANGE TESTIMONY IN ORDER TO REFLECT EXACTLY WHAT THE NARRATIVE WAS.

IN HIS CASE, IT'S OBVIOUS AND WE HAVE PROOF OF ALL OF IT, THE COURT LOOKS AT IT AND SAYS, THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

IF THIS CASE IS INEFFECTIVE, THERE COULD BE OTHER CASES.

IN OKLAHOMA, IT SEEMS ONCE YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GET OUT.

>> I WANT YOU TO SPEAK MORE TO THAT.

WHY THAT IS HAPPENING.

>> I THINK OUR LEGAL SYSTEM FEELS LIKE IF THEY ADMIT GUILT AT ANY POINT AND TIME, AND STAND UP AND SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE HAD SOMEONE BACK THEN INEFFECTIVE OR WILLING TO LIE TO GET A CONVICTION OR TWIST THE TRUTH, IF WE STAND UP AND SAY THAT, THAT MAKES THE LEGAL SYSTEM FAULTED.

MY BELIEF IS, IF YOU STAND UP AND ADMIT WHEN YOU DID GO WRONG AND CORRECT IT, THERE'S MORE TRUST AND FAITH IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM.

I HAVE VERY LITTLE FAITH IN THE LEGAL SYSTEM AT THIS POINT, I HAVE SEEN SO MANY TIMES THE COURT SAYS, THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

THERE'S ENOUGH EVIDENCE ON THE WAY TO PROVE IN THE CASE, WE KNOW HE DIDN'T COMMIT THE MURDER, FOR INSTANCE.

GUILTY OF COERCION?

YES, HE COULD HAVE BEEN GUILTY OF A FEW THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT MURDER HE IS NOT GUILTY OF.

FOR SOME REASON, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE'LL GIVE SOMEONE LIFE IN PRISON WHO ACTUALLY COMMITTED THE MURDER FOR TESTIFYING AGAINST SOMEONE ELSE.

>> HOW DO WE ENHURE THE RIGHTS -- ENSURE THE RIGHTS OF THE INNOCENTED VICTIMS -- >> IT'S COMPLICATED BUT YOU HOPE A LEGITIMATE CHALLENGE TO THE CONVICTION, THE PEOPLE MOST COMMUNICATING WITH THE VICTIM'S FAMILIES -- THE PROSECUTORS.

AND YOU HOPE THEY HAVE ENOUGH ENCOURAGE TO ADMIT THAT MAYBE THEY GOT IT WRONG.

BUT THAT'S TYPICALLY NOT WHAT WE SEE.

IT'S VERY DIFFICULT FOR VICTIM'S FAMILIES.

WE HAVE A POLICY THAT WE DON'T REACH OUT.

IF WE REACH OUT, WE SIMPLY -- IT'S ON THE STATE.

AS REPRESENTATIVE MENTIONED, NOBODY IS WILLING TO MAKE THEY MADE A MISTAKE, ALL OF WHICH THE VICTIM'S -- OFTEN THE VICTIM'S FAMILY MEMBERS ARE LEFT TO BELIEVE SOMEONE'S GUILT, EVEN IF THE EVIDENCE SHOWS IT'S UNLIKELY THE PERSON COMMITTED THE CRIME.

>> THAT'S THE CASE IN THE CASE.

TWO OTHER DEATH PENALTY CASES, ON DEATH ROW AND EXONERATED BECAUSE OF DNA EVIDENCE.

THE VICTIMS OF THE MURDERED PERSON, THEY WERE ANGRY AT THE TWO INDIVIDUALS.

THEY WANTED TO SEE THEM PUT TO DEATH.

AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, THEY FIND OUT FOR A FACT THEY'RE NOT GUILTY.

THAT CHANGES, RIGHT?

THEY'RE SO THANKFUL NOW THEY DIDN'T SEE THEM PUT TO DEATH.

IN THE CASE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE STATE DOUBLED DOWN AND IT'S UNFAIR TO THE FAMILY, THE VICTIM'S FAMILY TO CONTINUE THIS LIE WHEN YOU KNOW THERE'S EVIDENCE TO BACK UP THAT THEY SHOULD NOT BE ON DEATH ROW IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THEY WENT TO THE HEARING, THE DA COUNSEL HAD A NUMBER OF SET UP, TO SAY, HE'S GUILTY, THERE'S NOTHING TO SEE HERE.

THAT CAUSES MORE TRAUMA TO THE FAMILY THAN ANYTHING ELSE.

IT'S A FINE LINE YOU HAVE TO WALK.

YOU WANT THE FAMILY TO HAVE REPRESENTATION.

BUT WANT THEM TO FULLY UNDERSTAND AND NOT LIED TO.

>> TELL US OF THE BILLION INTRODUCED LAST SESSION, AND HOW DO YOU SEE THAT GOING FORWARD TO BE VOTED ON IN THE SENATE AND THE HOUSE.

>> I DON'T SEE IT GOING ANYWHERE, RIGHT NOW.

THE REASON IS, THE CONVICTION UNIT SAYS THAT IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO GO TO OUTSIDE COUNSEL AND LET THEM DO A THIRD PARTY INVESTIGATION, WE DID THAT WITH RICHARD.

WE ACTUALLY, I DIDN'T HIRE BUT THEY VOLUNTEERED THEIR TIME OVER A MILLION DOLLARS OF TIME AND EFFORTS IN THE LAW FIRM, AND THEY DID THE INVESTIGATIVE WORK THAT NO ONE HAD DONE BEFORE OTHER THAN THE DEFENSE TEAM.

BUT I DIDN'T WANT TO TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT.

WHEN WE INITIATED THIS, I WANT YOU TO TELL ME, IS HE GUILTY, I'LL STAND WITH THAT, AND HE'S NOT GUILTY, I WANT TO KNOW.

AND THE THIRD PARTY CAME OUT AND CAME BACK WITH A 350 PAGE REPORT AND IT WENT TO THE COURTS AND IN FACT, IT WENT THROUGH TWO AG'S, THEY IGNORED IT.

FINALLY THE THIRD AG, I TOLD HIM, PLEASE, PERSONALLY LOOK INTO THIS.

THE FIRST TIME WE MET WITH HIM ON THIS CASE, HE WALKED IN AND SAID, I KNOW HIS GUILTY BUT I'M HERE TO LISTEN.

THAT'S ALL I'VE ASKED.

HE HIRED HIS OWN THIRD PARTY NEFRTH AND CAME BACK -- INVESTIGATOR AND CAME BACK WITH THE SAME CONCLUSION WE DID.

YOU CAN'T TRUST THE FIRST TWO TRIALS.

THIS IS GREAT, WE HAVE THE AG OF OKLAHOMA, BUT IT GOES TO CRIMINAL COURT APPEALS, THEY THREW IT OUTLET.

-- OUT.

THAT'S WHEN THE COUNSEL STOOD AGAINST IT, AND TRIED TO GET HIM PUT TO DEATH.

THANK GOD THEY FILED IT AND IT'S NOW BEFORE THE SUPREME COURT.

>> WHAT'S INTERESTING OF THE CASE, AND NOT DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF OUR CASES, THE NEW EVIDENCE IS EVIDENCE THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN TURNED OVER OR HAPPENED IN THE FIRST PLACE.

TO MAKE SURE THE TESTIMONY WAS CONSISTENT.

THE BENEFIT HE'S GOTTEN IS THEY'VE GOTTEN ACCESS TO ALL OF THE INFORMATION FOR THIS THIRD PARTY REVIEW.

IN OUR CASES, MOST OF THE TIME WORRY NOT WORKING COOPERATIVELY WITH THE STATE OF OKLAHOMA AND WE'RE LOCKED OUT FROM THAT SORT OF EVIDENCE THAT COULD POSSIBLY, OR CREATE A SUBSTANTIAL CONSTITUTIONAL VIOLATION.

SO, WHAT HE'S GONE THROUGH IS NOT A TYPICAL LOT OF CASES WE SEE.

BUT MORE OF A SPOTLIGHT ON THE CASE, THAT'S A RECURRING THEME IN A LOT OF THE CASES.

AND IT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE AN APPELLANT COURT WHO SEEMS UNWILLING TO RECOGNIZE THE PROSECUTION HAS A DUTY TO TURN OVER, SPECIFICALLY EVIDENCE THAT COULD BE HELPFUL TO THE DEFENSE.

IT'S A CONTINUING DUTY, IT GOES THROUGH POST CONVICTION.

AND WE'RE NOT GETTING THAT DISCLOSURE ON CASES THAT WE'RE LITIGATING.

IT'S A SUBSTANTIAL PROBLEM.

>> PART OF THE REASON THAT RICHARD HAS ACCESS TO THAT IS SIMPLY BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION TA LEGISLATOR, WE STOOD AND FOUGHT TO GET THE INFORMATION.

NOW THERE'S EYES ON IT.

THAT'S PART OF THE REASON THE DA'S OFFICE IS UPSET.

FOR OUR COURTS TO CORRECT THEMSELVES, THE LEGISLATOR DOESN'T HAVE TO GET INVOLVED AT ALL.

BUT WE HAVE AN ISSUE HERE, WE HAVE TO TAKE A STAND.

>> I WAS WONDERING, WHAT RESOURCES ARE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE GETTING OUT OF PRISON.

>> MR. SIMMONS IS A GREAT VICTORY FOR HE AND HIS ATTORNEYS.

WE'RE EXCITED THAT OKLAHOMA COUNTY DECIDED TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND RELEASE HIM.

IT'S A VERY HARD PATH ONCE YOU GET OUT.

THE AVERAGE IN OKLAHOMA LENGTH OF TIME FOR EXONERATION IS TEN YEARS.

NOW WE HAVE CASES THAT FALL IN BETWEEN THAT.

WE HAVE -- WE JUST GOT A MURDER CASE VACANTED FOR A CLIENT CONVICTED IN 2014, I JUST GOT A RULING FOR A CLIENT, IT'S BEEN PENDING SINCE 2009.

EITHER WAY, THOSE PEOPLE NEED HELP.

THEY NEED FINANCIAL HELP, SERVICES, MENTAL HEALTH COUNSELLING.

TO BE PUT THERE WHEN YOU DIDN'T DO ANYTHING IS A REAL PROBLEM.

THEY NEED A LOT OF HELP.

AND THERE'S ALSO THE POTENTIAL THAT AT SOME POINT OKLAHOMA WILL REVISE THE COMPENSATION STATUTES AND MOVE TO A MODEL SIMILAR TO WHAT THE STATE OF KANSAS HAS ADOPTED.

NOT ONLY MONETARY COMPENSATIONS, BUT ALSO PROVIDING MENTAL HEALTH BENEFITS.

HOUSING BENEFITS.

EDUCATION BENEFITS.

IT'S A MONUMENTAL SHIFT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE EXPERIENCED THE VICTIM OF A WRONGFUL CONVICTION TO HAVE THOSE RESOURCES READILY AVAILABLE, AND HOPEFULLY QUICKER THAN IT TAKES.

THEY NEED A LOT.

>> THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE, I APPRECIATE YOU BOTH FOR COMING AND BOTH WORKING SO INTENSELY ON THIS.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> THIS WEEK'S "NATIONAL VIEW"-- HAS AN INTER-NATIONAL TWIST.

AN R.O.T.C.

UNIT AT CENTRAL MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY TRAVELING TO NORMANDY, FRANCE TO STUDY THE BATTLE THAT CHANGED WORLD WAR II-- AND THE WORLD.FOREVER.

THEIR INSPIRING STORY COURTESY OF OUR P.B.S.

PARTNERS AT WCMU PUBLIC MEDIA IN MICHIGAN.

>> IT'S WHEN WE TAKE A UNIT TO THE BATTLE FIELD, AND WE TAKE THE BATTLE AND TALK OF EVERY ASPECT OF THE BATTLE, FROM START TO FINISH.

AND WE PHYSICALLY WALK THE GROUND AND TALK AND DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE -- DURING THE BATTLE.

AND WE GO THROUGH THE ENTIRE BATTLE TRYING TO ANALYZE THE DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE SO WE CAN LEARN WHAT GREAT DECISIONS WERE MADE.

AND WHAT ONES WERE NOT SO GREAT.

AND HOW COULD WE IMPROVE THAT.

>> SOMEONE SMART AND EDUCATED, THE TOPOGRAPHY IS KING.

TO ACTUALLY TOUCH AND GROUND AND ENVISION IT.

THIS VAST ARRAY OF ARMORED VEHICLES, THAT'S WHY WE'RE THERE.

WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REPLICATE, AND THE TRAINING AREA OF WHAT D DAY WAS LIKE, YOU CAN'T GET THAT.

>> THINKING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS OF THE ASPECTS OF THE BRANCH I WANT TO GO IN TO, AND THE STUDIES I HAVE DONE IN THAT, WHAT COULD CHANGED FROM EITHER SIDE TO HAVE MADE THAT MORE SUCCESSFUL FOR THEM.

IT'S INTERESTING TO BE ON SITE, AND LOOK AROUND, WHAT WOULD I HAVE DONE IN THAT SITUATION.

>> THE CLASSROOM TWANG AND ONE OF THE -- TRAINING, AND ONE OF THE THINGS TALKED IN CLASS IS THE ACCESS OF RISK.

SO, I'VE HAD THE CLASSROOM EXPERIENCE WITH IT, THOSE MEN ON THE BOATS, HEADING TO THE BEACHES, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM KNEW WHAT THEY WERE FIGHTING FOR, AND THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT NOT EVERYONE WILL COME HOME.

IT'S REALLY ONLY IN MANY MOMENTS TODAY WE HAVE THAT UNBELIEVABLE GRACE THAT EVERYONE IS COMING HOME.

WE CAN REPLICATE A SMALL PORTION OF THAT IN THE CLASSROOM ENVIRONMENT, I HAVE AN IMMENSE APPRECIATION OF WHAT EVERY SINGLE ONE ON -- EXPOSE THE PARTICIPANTS TO A GOOD BREATH OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS ABOUT D-DAY AND THE EVENTS LEADING UP AND SHORTLY FOLLOWING.

WE HAVE AN AGGRESSIVE TIME LINE, WE HAVE THE -- TO COMMISSION, AND LEADERS OF CHARACTER, AND I WANTED TO HIT EACH OF THOSE ASPECTS.

>> IT'S PUTTING IN PERSPECTIVE THE COST OF THAT INITIAL INVASION.

AND THE OVERALL COST OF WORLD WAR II ITSELF, PUT THE IT IN PERSPECTIVE FOR ME.

I'D LIKE TO THINK I'M READY TO GIVE A SACRIFICE LIKE THAT WHEN THE TIME COMES, BUT WE'LL NEVER REALLY KNOW.

SEEING THE SACRIFICE THEY MADE INSPIRE ME.

>> THE MOTTO IS KNOWLEDGE FOR DEFENSE.

AND I THINK THIS STAFF RIDE IS A PERFECT MATCH TO THAT MOTTO.

WE WENT TO NORMANDY TO LEARN TO BE BETTER DEFENDERS OF OUR NATION BUT THE WORK AND EFFORT THEY PUT IN, EVEN TO GET ON THE PLANE AND MOVING OVER THERE.

TO GAIN IS KNOWLEDGE AND LEARN TO HELP MAKE THEM BETTER LEADERS.

TO HELP IN THE DEFENSE OF OUR NATION.

>>> OUR YEAR-LONG SERIES OF REPORTS ON OKLAHOMA'S HISTORIC "BLACK FRONTIER TOWNS" WILL CONTINUE ON THE NEXT EDITION OF THE "OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT".

REPORTER STEVE SHAW TRAVELS TO REDBIRD IN WAGONER COUNTY, TO MEET FOLKS WHO ARE FIERCELY PROUD OF THEIR TOWN AND IT'S UNIQUE HISTORY.

>> WE ARE NOT GOING ANYWHERE.

WE'RE HERE.

I LOVE REDBIRD, SO I STILL LIVE ON LAND MY MOTHER AND FATHER PURCHASED IN THE 1940'S.

>> IT'S SPECIAL BECAUSE OF OUR UPBRINGINGS.

THINGS WE WERE RAISED TO LEARN AND DO.

CHILDREN NOW DAYS WON'T EVER GET TO EXPERIENCE IT.

AND THEY'LL NEVER HAVE THE RESPECT WHAT WE HAVE BECAUSE OF THE WAY WE WERE RAISED HERE IN REDBIRDM THIS TOWN PUT OUT SOME GIANTS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE WHO LOVED US AND RAISED US WELL.

>> STEVE SHAW'S SPECIAL REPORT FROM WAGONER COUNTY-- NEXT FRIDAY AT 7PM ON THE "OKLAHOMA NEWS REPORT".

>>> A SPECIAL DAY AT THE STATE CAPITOL FOR OKLAHOMA'S LATEST CROP OF NEW ATTORNEYS.

ABOUT 260 LAW GRADUATES FROM OKLAHOMA CITY UNIVERSITY, OU, AND THE UNIVERSITY OF TULSA WHO HAD SUCCESSFULLY PASSED THE BAR EXAM WERE INVITED TO JOIN THE OKLAHOMA BAR ASSOCIATION.

THE OATH WAS ADMINISTERED BY THE CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE OKLAHOMA SUPREME COURT, JOHN KANE.

THE BAR EXAM WAS REALLY, REALLY HARD-- OR SOME I'M TOLD BY THAT YOUNG LADY IN THE LIGHT BLUE BLAZER, MY DAUGHTER CLAIRE, OF WHOM, WE ARE VERY PROUD!

>>> AND WE'LL LEAVE YOU THIS WEEK WITH A LOOK AT THE "ORR FAMILY FARM" IN OKLAHOMA CITY.

PUT TOGETHER FOR US BY O.E.T.A.

'S LUIS RENDON.

FOR ALL OF US WHO PLAY A ROLE IN PUTTING THIS NEWSCAST ON THE AIR EACH WEEK, I'M RICH LENZ.

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