>> I'M MARC ROTTERMAN AND THIS IS FRONT ROW.

COMING UP THE SUPREME COURT STOPS THE EVICTION MORATORIUM.

GOVERNOR COOPER VETOES A REPEAL OF THE PISTOL PERMIT LAW AND SPEAKER MOORE URGES NORTH CAROLINA TO WELCOME THE AFGHAN REFUGEES.

NEXT!

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JOINING THE CONVERSATION, MITCH KOKAI WITH THE JOHN LOCKE FOUNDATION, JONAH KAPLAN WITH ABC NEWS 11, POLITICAL ANALYST JOE STEWART AND NELSON DOLLAR SENIOR ADVISOR TO NORTH CAROLINA SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.

MITCH WHY WE BEGIN WITH THE SUPREME COURT RULINGS.

>> YOU KNOW THE SUPREME COURT IS IN THE FINAL MONTH OF ITS ANNUAL SUMMER BREAK BUT THERE'S BEEN PLENTY OF ACTION IN WHAT'S SOMETIMES CALLED THE SHADOW DOCKET AND THAT'S ALL OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED OUTSIDE THE FORMAL SCHEDULE.

BRIEFINGS AND ORAL ARGUMENTS IN THE LENGTHY DECISIONS.

A COUPLE OF THE BIG ITEMS ON THAT SHADOW DOCKET HAVE INVOLVED THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION AND LOSSES FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

FIRST WE SAW THAT THE COURT RULED AGAINST THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S ATTEMPT TO END THE TRUMP POLICY OF REMAIN IN MEXICO FOR ASYLUM SEEKERS, SO THAT WAS A SETBACK, AND THEN SHORTLY AFTERWARD WITHIN THE SAME WEEK, THE SUPREME COURT STOPPED THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION'S PROPOSED FEDERAL EVICTION MORATORIUM SO BIG LOSSES FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION.

SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID THE PART OF THE PROBLEM IS THAT THERE WAS A VACANCY IN THE SOLICITOR GENERAL'S OFFICE, THE SOLICITOR GENERAL ARGUES ON BEHALF OF THE ADMINISTRATION AND THERE HAVE BEEN A DELAY UP UNTIL AUGUST BECAUSE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION WAS LOOKING FOR A MORE DIVERSE CANDIDATE THAN THE ONE THAT THEY ENDED UP FINDING.

ANOTHER BIG RULING ON THE SHADOW DOCKET THAT'S OUTSIDE OF THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, BUT CERTAINLY BIG NEWS AND BIDEN AND HIS TEAM HAVE BEEN AGAINST IT IS THIS 5, 4, RULING THAT ALLOWS THE TEXAS ABORTION LAW TO GO INTO EFFECT.

>> JOE ARE WE BEGINNING TO SEE THE IMPACT OF TRUMP COURT?

>> WELL I THINK THAT'S A PART OF IT, AND YOU KNOW PRESIDENTS HISTORICALLY HAVE HAD SORT OF A LOVE HATE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUPREME COURT.

IF YOU LOOK BACK AT THE ADMINISTRATION OF FRANKLIN ROOSEVELT THERE WAS SPECULATION THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTED TO ADVANCE THE NUMBER OF JURISTS THERE WERE ON THE SUPREME COURT BECAUSE HE COULDN'T GET RULINGS THAT HE FOUND FAVORABLE TO THE NEW DEAL PROGRAMS HE PUT FORWARD.

INTERESTING THING ABOUT BIDEN IS AMONG ALL PRESIDENTS HE'S HAD A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF EXPERIENCE IN THE PROCESS OF SELECTING MEMBERS OF THE STATE SUPREME COURT IN FACT, THE U.S. SUPREME COURT.

IF YOU GO BACK TO ROBERT BORK WHEN BIDEN WAS FIRST CHAIR OF THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE, THE LARGEST DEFEAT OF A JUDICIAL NOMINEE AND THEN CLARENCE THOMAS OF COURSE, THE CLOSEST MARGIN OF THAT BUT I THINK THE NEXT THING FOR BIDEN'S HE'S PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO SELECT A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.

STEPHEN BYERS NOW IN HIS 80'S HAS TALKED ABOUT RETIREMENT.

THEY'RE TRYING TO GET HIM TO RETIRE, WELL, I THINK WHAT MAYBE UP NEXT FOR THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE RECENT DEFEATS IS WHO ARE THEY GONNA PICK TO TRY TO HELP BRING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PERSPECTIVE TO THE COURT?

>> ALSO YOU HAVE FLOOR.

WELL, YOU KNOW DESPITE ONGOING EFFORTS TO INTIMIDATE THE CURRENT COURT THE SUPREME COURT IS STANDING UP FOR FEDERALISM AND LIMITING THE POWER OF GOVERNMENT AGENCIES TO WHO'S EXPRESSLY AUTHORIZED BY CONGRESS.

YOU KNOW IF THE PRESIDENT AND CONGRESS WANT A DIFFERENT POLICY ON THE SOUTHERN BORDER OR RENTAL HOUSING.

THEY NEED TO ACTUALLY PASS A LAW AND THE COURT IS ALSO TREATING THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION THE SAME WAY THEY TREATED THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WHEN THEY TRIED WHEN THEY ACTUALLY REJECTED TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO END OBAMA'S DACA DREAM DREAMERS POLICY AND THE OTHER THING I WOULD MENTION ON THE HOUSING ISSUE IS THAT YOU KNOW ONLY 11% OF THE FEDERAL MONEY THAT'S THAT WAS SENT OUT TO HELP RENTERS WITH THEIR PAYMENTS HAS ACTUALLY GOTTEN TO THE LANDLORD SO YOU KNOW HOW ARE LANDLORDS GOING TO PAY THEIR MORTGAGE BUILDING MAINTENANCE IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY FROM THE RENTERS?

>> AND BIDEN HIMSELF SAID WHAT THEY WERE TRYING TO DO WITH THE MORATORIUM WAS UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

JONAH?

>> WELL THIS MONTH WILL MARK ONE YEAR SINCE THE DEATH OF RUTH BADER GINSBURG AND THERE WAS A INDIVIDUAL WHO BECAME KIND OF A CULTURAL HERO.

BUT PRESIDENT OBAMA ASKED HER TO RETIRE, AND SHE WOULDN'T.

AND THEN SHE DIED LITERALLY 2 MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION AND SHE WOULD'VE BEEN THE SWING VOTE IN THIS TEXAS ABORTION LAW CASE I THINK WHAT THE SUPREME COURT CASES DO ARE THEY KIND OF YOU KNOW DROP THE SHROUD ON THESE SIMMERING DOMESTIC ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN KIND OF PUT TO THE BACK BURNER.

ABORTION KIND OF ALWAYS SEEMS TO COME UP ELECTION YEAR.

BUT NOW IT'S REALLY GOING TO BE A DOMESTIC ISSUE AND -- >> [MARC] IT'S GOING TO BE A STATE ISSUE DON'T YOU THINK?

>> WELL UNTIL IT BECOMES A STATE ISSUE, THE COURT HAS TO RULE ON IT FIRST, AND THIS TEXAS LAW WHICH IS QUITE A -- >> [MARC INTERRUPTS] IT WON'T BE OVER TURNED BY THE SUPREME COURT.

>> BUT IT BECOOMES EMBLEMATIC OF DOMESTIC POLICIES, AND THEREFORE EVEN IF THOUGH IT'S UP TO THE COURT NOT NECESSARILY UP TO LEGISLATORS, ALL OF A SUDDEN VOTERS HAVE TO LOOK AT WHO SUPPORTS WHAT BASED ON THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION.

>> WE'VE GOT TO MOVE MUCH TALK ABOUT THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY'S WEEK NELSON.

>> YES MARC SO THIS WEEK GOVERNOR COOPER VETOED A LAW REPEALING THE REQUIREMENT TO OBTAIN A PERMIT FROM A LOOK FROM YOUR LOCAL SHERIFF BEFORE YOU PURCHASE A HANDGUN.

THE LAW HAS NEVER APPLIED THE LONG GUN SHOT GUNS, SEMIAUTOMATIC RIFLES, AND ITS ORIGIN IS REALLY STRAIGHT OUT OF THE JIM CROW ERA.

THE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION HAS AGREED THAT THIS PERMIT IS UNNECESSARY AND ITS DUPLICATIVE OF WHAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE WITH WHAT'S CALLED THE NICS SYSTEM WHICH IS THE NATIONAL INSTANT CHECK SYSTEM WHICH ACTUALLY INCLUDES THE MENTAL HEALTH DATA THAT WAS A CONCERN IN PREVIOUS YEARS.

WHEN A PISTOL IS ACTUALLY PURCHASED.

SO THESE PERMITS REALLY DON'T NEED TO BE DONE THEY'RE VESTIGE OF A OF A DISCRIMINATORY ERA.

AND YET, DEMOCRATS SEEM TO WANT TO HANG ON TO THAT.

ON A BETTER NOTE, THE GOVERNOR -- >> [MARC INTERRUPTS] ARE THERE VOTES TO OVERRIDE?

>> WELL I THINK THAT THE VOTES ARE PROBABLY NOT THERE TO OVERRIDE, UNFORTUNATELY, YOU WOULD THINK THAT THEY WOULD WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION AND GIVEN THAT THE THE ACTUAL HISTORY OF THIS PARTICULAR LAW.

SO WE'LL SEE.

THE OTHER THING I WAS GOING TO MENTION IS THAT ON THE UPSIDE 3 OF THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORMS MAJOR CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORMS MEASURES THAT GENERAL ASSEMBLY PASSED THIS YEAR HAVE NOW BEEN SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR.

>> JONAH WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN FOLLOWING MY FRIEND?

>> WELL THAT PISTOL PURCHASE, I MEAN THE PERMIT -- ONE REASON WHY DEMOCRATS ARE KEEPING IT, OR THEY WANT TO KEEP IT, THE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION ONLY CHANGE THEIR MIND ON IT ABOUT 2 YEARS AGO.

SO FOR DECADES, THE SHERIFFS ASSOCIATION ONE IN THAT PISTOL PURCHASE PERMIT IN PLACE AND THE REASON THEY WANT IT IN PLACE IS BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF A DEFACTO A WAITING PERIOD.

THERE IS NO WAITING PERIOD IN NORTH CAROLINA.

BUT IF YOU GO TO THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE IT USUALLY TAKES ABOUT 3 TO 5 DAYS TO GET THAT PERMIT IN ORDER TO GET SOMETHING.

I'M NOT SAYING IT'S RIGHT OR WRONG.

THAT'S JUST THE ARGUMENTS FOR OR AGAINST IT.

WHAT I'M FOLLOWING IN THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY RIGHT NOW IS YOU JUST HAD KIND OF ANOTHER BIG BILL WHICH WAS ABOUT DISCRIMINATION OR NOT DISCRIMINATION IN THE CLASSROOM AND YOU'RE STARTING TO SEE THE SEPARATION OF REALLY STATE AND CURRICULUM AND WHERE DOES THAT FALL AND WHAT IS GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IN THE CLASSROOM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A BUDGET COMING UP SOON.

WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT FUNDING FOR THE CLASSROOM, BUT WHERE DOES THE GOVERNMENT FUNDED TO DETERMINE CURRICULUM.

SO A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE THAT THAT REALLY DEAL WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> THE BUDGET HAS BEEN PUSHED BACK CORRECT TO THE END OF SEPTEMBER IS THAT WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND THAT'S WHEN WE'LL SEE A BUDGET MITCH?

>> YEAH, ACTUALLY NELSON WILL PROBABLY HAVE THE MOST UP TO DATE INFORMATION ON THAT, BUT WE HEARD FROM SENATOR BERGER THAT HE DID NOT EXPECT THERE TO BE ANY KIND OF DEAL ON THE BUDGET BEFORE THE END OF SEPTEMBER.

WHAT WAS INTERESTING TO ME IS THAT WHILE FOR A WHILE WE SEEM TO BE IN KIND OF A WAIT AND SEE MODE ON THE BUDGET.

IT SEEMS LIKE LEGISLATORS HAVE DECIDED.

YEAH THAT'S A TOPIC BUT IT'S NOT ONE THAT'S GOING TO BE RESOLVED, SO LET'S TAKE CARE OF SOME OF THESE OTHER ISSUES LIKE THE SCHOOL INDOCTRINATION BILL, THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORMS, ANTI RIOTING BILL THAT WAS PASSED, THERE'S ANOTHER BILL THAT WOULD FORCE SCHOOL BOARDS TO VOTE EVERY MONTH THAT THEY WANT TO KEEP MASK MANDATES.

SO A LOT OF THINGS ARE STILL HAPPENING.

>> JOE WRAP THIS UP TO ABOUT 35 SECONDS MY FRIEND.

>> WHAT CAST A LONG SHADOW OVER A LEGISLATIVE SESSION AS A YEAR THAT ENDS IN ONE IS REDISTRICTING.

AND SO AS SOON AS THEY'RE DONE WITH THE BUDGET IT APPEARS THEY'RE GOING TO PIVOT AND IMMEDIATELY BEGIN TO DRAW NEW LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS AND NEW CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS, INCLUDING A NEW 14TH DISTRICT.

LEGISLATORS LOOKING AT THE MAPS AND WHAT THEIR NEW DISTRICT MIGHT LOOK LIKE THAT WILL INFLUENCE WHAT THEY THINK ABOUT THE FINAL BUDGET PACKAGE AND HOW THEY MIGHT SUPPORT OR OPPOSE IT.

>> OKAY, I WANT TO MOVE ON REAL QUICKLY.

JONAH I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE AFGHAN REFUGEE SITUATION AND THEM COMING TO AMERICA AND WHERE DOES THAT STAND RIGHT NOW?

>> YOU CAN HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT WHOLE OPERATION IN AFGHANISTAN.

BUT I THINK YOU CAN ALSO APPRECIATE THE INCREDIBLE EFFORT OF BASICALLY AIRLIFTING MORE THAN A 100,000 PEOPLE OUT OF THAT COUNTRY.

WHAT YOU DON'T SEE ON THE CAMERAS ARE WHERE THOSE PLANES LAND AND WHERE THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING THE REFUGEES ARE NOT GOING TO NEARBY PAKISTAN, INDIA, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO OTHER NATIONS IN THE ARAB WORLD OR IN THE ARAB LEAGUE.

THEY'RE PROBABLY GOING TO EUROPE OR THE COMING TO THE U.S. AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FEW TIMES IN MY HISTORY HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA WHERE SPEAKER TIM MOORE AND DURHAM MAYOR STEVE SCHEWEL ARE ACTUALLY IN AGREEMENTS WHERE THEY SAY LET'S BRING THE REFUGEES TO NORTH CAROLINA.

AND I THINK HERE AGAIN THIS ONE MY FAVORITE SAYINGS THINGS CAN BE TRUE AT THE SAME TIME.

WE CAN ABSOLUTELY WANT TO WELCOME REFUGEES THE SAME WAY AMERICA HAS ALWAYS BEEN THAT HAVEN FOR IMMIGRANTS.

BUT WE CAN ALSO BE WARY OF WHAT KIND OF A MIX OF LIFESTYLES AND WILL THEY ADAPT TO AMERICA?

WILL THEY ADAPT TO OUR WAY OF LIFE?

WILL THEY BE ABLE TO -- >> [MARC] ASSIMILATE?

>> WELL, ASSIMILATE, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO KIND OF GIVE UP THEIR HERITAGE AND GIVE UP THEIR IDENTITY AND CULTURE IDENTITY, BUT... LOOK AT EUROPE.

I MEAN YOU HAVE THE ALGERIAN TUNISIAN MOROCCAN POPULATIONS THERE, A LARGE ARAB POPULATION, AND AFTER DECADES, THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ADAPT.

THEY LIVE IN KIND OF THEIR OWN SILOS.

THERE CREATES -- >> THERE ARE NO-GO ZONES IN EUROPE.

>> THERE ARE NO-GO ZONES AND IT CREATES ATMOSPHERES WHERE THERE COULD BE SOME RADICAL ISLAMIC TERROR.

AND WE'VE SEEN THAT IN PARTS OF FRANCE WE'VE SEEN THAT HOMEGROWN TERROR IN LONDON WE'VE SEEN IT IN BRUSSELS WE'VE SEEN IT IN SPAIN, SO ALL OF THESE REFUGEES WHOSE VETTING THEM?

HOW ARE THEY BEING VETTED?

THEY WERE KIND OF LIFTED OFF FRANTICALLY SO WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT ALL IT REALLY TAKES IS ONE PERSON ONE TO GET THROUGH THAT MAYBE SHOULDN'T AND TO CREATE TERROR HERE IN AMERICA.

>> MITCH, TYPICALLY IT TAKES ABOUT 18 MONTHS TO DO A BACKGROUND CHECK ON SOMEONE.

>> IT REALLY DOES TAKE A LONG TIME TO DO A THOROUGH BACKGROUND CHECK AND THAT HAS BEEN A CONCERN.

WE SAW THAT THE CHAIR OF THE HOUSE FREEDOM CAUCUS, WHO'S AN ARIZONA CONGRESSMAN, BIGGS, WHO BASICALLY CAME OUT WITH THAT CONCERN SAID TO THE HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY 'HEY LOOK AT 'THESE PEOPLE AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE NOT LETTING INTO THIS COUNTRY FOLKS WHO SHOULDN'T BE HERE' NOT BECAUSE WE HAVE CONCERNS THAT THEIR AFGHANIS -- >> [MARC INTERRRUPTS] ORIGINALLY THEY WERE THE ONES THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE HELPED US, AND RIGHT NOW, THE PEOPLE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR ASYLUM IS THAT CORRECT?

>> I MEAN THE PROGRAM THROUGH WHICH THESE PEOPLE ARE BEING HELPED IS REALLY DESIGNED FOR TRANSLATORS, GUIDES, PEOPLE HELPED THE MILITARY AND HELPED THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AS THEY WERE OPERATING IN AFGHANISTAN, BUT WITH ALL THE CHAOS THAT HAPPENED IT'S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR THAT ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WERE AIRLIFTED WERE JUST THOSE FOLKS WHO HELPED US.

>> MEANWHILE, WE STILL HAVE AMERICANS IN AFGHANISTAN THAT ARE NOT GETTING OUT RIGHT JOE?

>> ABSOLUTELY, PART OF THE CHALLENGE IS THAT THE SITUATION ON THE GROUND HAS BECOME FAR MORE CHAOTIC WITH THE TALIBAN TRYING NOW TO ORGANIZE A GOVERNMENT AND FORMALLY TAKE OVER CONTROL OF THE COUNTRY, THE ABILITY TO NEGOTIATE FOR THE EVACUATION OF NOT ONLY THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES BUT OTHER CITIZENS WANT OF OTHER COUNTRIES WHO WANT TO LEAVE.

I THINK IT'S VERY LIKELY THAT WHAT'S HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN, THE SUM TOTAL OF HOW THIS EXPERIENCE WENT DOWN WILL BECOME PART OF THE NARRATIVE FOR THE 2022 ELECTION.

I THINK REPUBLICANS SEE THIS AS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO POINT TO THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION, NOT NECESSARILY HAVING THE CAPACITY THE BIDEN PROMOTED WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT OF A THOROUGH KNOWLEDGE OF HOW GOVERNMENT WORKS ON NATIONAL SECURITY WORKS IN THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.

SO THE DISCUSSION OF THESE REFUGEES AND WHAT WAS OR WHAT WAS NOT DONE TO MAKE SURE THEY WERE FULLY VETTED IS UNDOUBTEDLY PART OF THE NARRATIVE REPUBLICANS WANT TO PUSH GOING IN AN ELECTION.

>> PANIC IF THERE IS AN INCIDENT NELSON.

>> WELL THAT'S RIGHT.

THESE PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN VETTED, THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE AT LEAVING WAS THE RIGHT THING, BUT THE WAY IT WAS DONE WAS SHAMEFUL AND UNNECESSARY.

THERE WAS NO PLANNING THERE WAS NO APPRECIATION OF OF THE REALITY ON THE GROUND SO WE HAVE CONTRACTORS HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA WHO CAN'T GET THEIR ACTUAL VISA HOLDERS OUT, PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW HAVE HELPED WITH THEIR FAMILY SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER GOING TO BE MURDERED OR ROT IN PRISON AND THE MILITARY AND STATE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP SHOULD HAVE PUT THEIR STARS ON THE TABLE THEY SHOULD HAVE DEMANDED A DIFFERENT PLAN THAT WOULD HAVE ALLOWED BOTH THE PEOPLE AMERICANS PEOPLE WHO WORKED WITH THE AMERICANS OVER THOSE THOSE 20 YEARS TO COME OUT IN AN ORDERLY CORRECT WAY.

>> AND TO FULLY VET ANYONE ELSE.

>> OKAY TO BE CONTINUED.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THE AD WARS BEGINNING FOR THE MIDTERMS JOE.

>> UNBELIEVABLE I THINK THAT AMERICAN POLITICS HAS BECOME MORE OR LESS LIKE THE PAINTING OF THE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE GETTING DONE JUST MEANS IT'S TIME TO GET STARTED AGAIN AND THIS REALLY SEEMS LIKE EARLY FOR ADS TO BEGIN BUT THE NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE, RUNNING ADS 47 WHAT THEY CONSIDERED TO BE HIGHLY VULNERABLE DEMOCRATS 29 ARE IN DISTRICTS THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN DID NOT WIN IN 2020.

UNDER GIRDING ALL OF THIS IS THE SENSE OF REDISTRICTING AND LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS FLORIDA, GEORGIA, NORTH CAROLINA AND TEXAS ALL GOING TO HAVE REDISTRICTING TAKE PLACE BEFORE THE 2022 ELECTION AND ARE LIKELY TO PRODUCE OPPORTUNITIES FOR REPUBLICANS TO PICK UP SEATS IN THE U.S. HOUSE WHERE DEMOCRATS CURRENTLY HOLD A RAZOR THIN MAJORITY.

I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS THESE ADS WILL CONTINUE, 10'S 100'S OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS SPENT PROBABLY IN PLACES LIKE THESE BATTLEGROUND STATES.

IN NORTH CAROLINA THE U.S. SENATE RACE TO REPLACE RICHARD BURR FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO HOLD THIS AS A SENATE SEAT FOR THE GOP IS IMPORTANT TO THEIR EFFORTS TO TAKE CONTROL OF THE U.S. SENATE.

TED BUDD RECENTLY ADS RUNNING PAID FOR BY THE CLUB FOR GROWTH, A CONSERVATIVE ORGANIZATION OUT OF WASHINGTON REMINDING VOTERS THAT BUDD HAD BEEN ENDORSED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP, POLLING SHOWING THAT PEOPLE DIDN'T REALLY KNOW THAT MUCH ABOUT TED BUDD BUT WHEN YOU THROW IN THE FACT THAT HE'S BEEN ENDORSED BY DONALD TRUMP HIS FAVORABLES GO WAY UP AND I THINK THAT'S WHY THE ADS TALK ABOUT TRUMP'S ENDORSEMENT OF BUDD'S CAMPAIGN.

>> NELSON, HOW DO YOU SEE THE MIDTERMS IS THERE A WAVE COMING DOES THIS FEEL LIKE A WAVE TO YOU?

>> IT FEELS LIKE A WAVE IS BUILDING.

YOU NORMALLY, A PRESIDENT'S PARTY CAN EXPECT TO LOSE ABOUT 25 SEATS IN THE MIDTERMS.

THE EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE IN RECENT HISTORY WHERE 98, AND '02, WHEN THE PRESIDENT'S PARTY ACTUALLY GAINED SEATS IN THE MIDTERMS, BUT THAT WAS WHEN PRESIDENT CLINTON AND PRESIDENT BUSH WERE BOTH IN THEIR MID 60'S IN TERMS OF JOB APPROVAL.

RIGHT NOW BIDEN IS TRENDING IN THE MID 40'S IN TERMS OF JOB APPROVAL -- -- [MARC] 43% LATEST POLL.

>> IT'S HEADING DOWN, THAT IS NOT, THAT IS THE ESSENCE OF BUILDING A WAVE.

NOW CAN HE OVERCOME THE PANDEMIC AFGHANISTAN, HE PROBABLY CAN, BUT THE QUESTION IS WILL HE BE ABLE TO OVERCOME INFLATION, WILL HE BE ABLE TO OVERCOME CONCERNS WITH THE ECONOMY, IS WAS SAID ONCE 'IT'S THE ECONOMY STUPID' AND TO THAT POINT JUST THIS WEEK, IT WAS AN ANTICIPATION OF AROUND 750,000 NEW JOBS CREATED.

THE REPORT CAME IN AT ROUGHLY AROUND 250, 260,000 JOBS CREATED, SO, THERE ARE SIGNS OF CONCERN IN THE ECONOMY IN ADDITION TO INFLATION AND QUESTIONS WITH JOB GROWTH.

IT DOES COME DOWN ECONOMY DOESN'T MITCH?

>> IT USUALLY DOES UNLESS THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY MAJOR OUTSIDE OF THE ECONOMY LIKE A WAR THAT COUNTERACTS THAT >> A TERRORIST INCIDENT >> TERRORIST INCIDENT, I THINK THE INFLATION ISSUE IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE WATCHING FOR A WHILE WE SAW THAT SOME OF THE ADS THAT ARE COMING UP NOW ARE TALKING ABOUT THE COST OF SCHOOL SUPPLIES ARE REALLY HITTING THE FAMILIES WHERE IT HURTS.

>> [MARC] KITCHEN TABLE.

>> [MITCH] KITCHEN TABLE ISSUES.

THIS IS THE TYPE OF THING THAT'S LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO BE AN ISSUE WELL INTO 2022 AND PROBABLY INTO NOVEMBER AND PEOPLE ARE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO SPEND THEIR MONEY THE WAY THEY DID JUST A FEW MONTHS EARLIER, THAT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE.

>> JONAH YOUR THOUGHTS MY FRIEND?

>> WE'RE STILL 6 MONTHS AWAY FROM A PRIMARY AND NO I DON'T HAVE A BACKGROUND IN PUBLIC RELATIONS OR POLITICAL ADVERTISING BUT I -- >> [MARC] BUT YOU PLAY ONE ON TV.

[LAUGHTER] BUT I DO SUSPECT THAT AT LEAST NOW THE CANDIDATES ARE TRYING TO CREATE A CERTAIN PERCEPTION ABOUT EACH OTHER, AND THAT WAY YOU KIND OF GET A HEAD START SO THAT WHEN THERE STARTS TO BE NAME RECOGNITION WHEN THERE STARTS TO BE VOTERS PAYING ATTENTION, THEY KIND OF HAVE AN ASSUMED IDEA OF WHO PEOPLE ARE, AND ONCE YOU HAVE A PERCEPTION OF SOMEBODY IT'S VERY TOUGH TO CHANGE THAT.

>> THAT'S A GREAT POINT BECAUSE FIRST IMPRESSIONS IN MY MIND DO MATTER.

>> SO IF YOU PAINT SOMEONE AS AN EXTREME RADICAL ON THE LEFT OR THE RIGHT IF YOU HATE SOMEONE ASSOCIATED WITH DONALD TRUMP AND THE JANUARY 6TH RIOT ON CAPITOL HILL OR WITH THE SQUAD, YOU KNOW THAT MATTERS WHEN THE PEOPLE START TO PAY ATTENTION AGAIN.

>> OK WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON LET'S GO TO THE MOST UNDERREPORTED STORY OF THE WEEK MITCH.

>> WELL WITH ALL THE NEWS ABOUT AFGHANISTAN, HURRICANE IDA, THE DELTA VARIANT WE MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING THAT WAS REALLY BIG AND REALLY SCARY ON THE FISCAL FRONT, AND THAT IS THAT THE TRUSTEES FOR SOCIAL SECURITY MEDICARE EVERY YEAR ON APRIL 1ST ARE SUPPOSED TO GIVE AN UPDATE ON WHERE THINGS STAND WELL DIDN'T HAPPEN APRIL 1ST, THAT'S NOT UNCOMMON.

THIS DEADLINE IS OFTEN MISSED BUT HAVING THAT INFORMATION COME OUT ON SEPTEMBER 1ST IS LATER THAT IT DID EVER UNDER BARACK OBAMA OR DONALD TRUMP AND WE SEE THAT THE NUMBERS ARE VERY SCARY, SOCIAL SECURITY FACES A HOLE OF 19 AND A HALF TRILLION DOLLARS, TO COVER THAT YOU'RE EITHER GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE PAYROLL TAXES BY 27% OR SLASH BENEFITS BY ABOUT 21% >> HOW ABOUT RAISING THE AGE?

>> YOU CAN RAISE THE AGE THAT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT IN CERTAIN RESPECTS, BUT WHATEVER THE SOLUTION IS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE THE STATUS QUO MEANWHILE, MEDICARE, THE REPORT SAYS THERE'S GOING TO BE A DEFICIT IN ALL FUTURE YEARS AND THE TRUST FUND WILL BE DRY IN 2026 JUST 5 YEARS FROM NOW.

>> JONAH?

>> I'M GONNA SLEEP WELL TONIGHT, THANKS VERY MUCH.

>> [MARC] DON'T COUNT ON SOCIAL SECURITY.

>> YEAH.

>> [MARC] YOU'RE TOO YOUNG.

>> SO.

SPEAKING OF YOUNG I HAD OF COURSE IN COLLEGE AT BOSTON UNIVERSITY WAS CALLED THE U.S. HISTORY SINCE 1968, IT SAID 1960 WAS THE YEAR THE DREAM DIED, ONE BECAUSE THE ASSASSINATION OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, BUT ALSO THE ASSASSINATION OF ROBERT F KENNEDY, AND THE MURDERER FOR KENNEDY, SIRHAN SIRHAN, WAS JUST GIVEN -- THE PAROLE BOARD SAID THAT HE COULD BE RELEASED NOW ULTIMATELY THAT DECISION RESTS WITH GOVERNOR GAVIN NEWSOM OF CALIFORNIA, BUT THIS IS KIND OF UNDERREPORTED I THINK BECAUSE ONE I THINK ROBERT KENNEDY'S IMPACT ON POLITICS IN THE U.S., HOW POPULAR HE WAS, THAT HAS KIND OF BEEN MISSED, THE KENNEDYS ARE KIND OF A FORGOTTEN NAME IN AMERICA NOW, IT'S THE WHOLE GENERATION'S BEEN REMOVED, BUT THIS IDEA THAT SOMEONE WHO CHANGED THE COURSE OF AMERICAN HISTORY CAN THEN BE GRANTED PAROLE.

THAT'S KIND OF FASCINATING TO ME AND QUITE CONTROVERSIAL AND I'M SURPRISED IT DOESN'T GET MORE AIRTIME.

>> I AGREE WITH THAT.

SOME OF THE KENNEDY CHILDREN ARE FOR THE PAROLE SOME ARE AGAINST.

OK, LET'S MOVE ON UNDERREPORTED STORY.

>> THE GALLUP ORGANIZATION RELEASED A POLL THIS WEEK ASSESSING PARENTS PERSPECTIVE ON PUBLIC EDUCATION.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, 73% OF PARENTS WITH A CHILD IN A PUBLIC SCHOOL SAID THAT THEY WERE VERY SATISFIED WITH THE QUALITY OF K 12 EDUCATION IN AMERICA.

NOW IF YOU TAKE THE NUMBERS FROM EVERYBODY INCLUDING THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE CHILDREN IN THE PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM, 54% OF THE RESPONDENTS SAID THEY WERE OVERALL DISSATISFIED WITH THE QUALITY OF K 12 EDUCATION IN AMERICA.

THE NUMBERS HAVE SORT OF SHIFTED BACK IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGE OF KIDS BEING HOME SCHOOLED NOW THAT SCHOOLS ARE REOPENING SOME OF THE ISSUES AROUND COVID THE MANDATES FOR MASKS AND VACCINES FOR TEACHERS, AND WHETHER THERE IS AN OPTION FOR KIDS TO LEARN REMOTELY AGAIN, I THINK A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS WILL NOW EVEN IN A POST-COVID WORLD IMAGINING THAT HAPPEN SOONER RATHER THAN LATER, A LOT OF QUESTIONS WILL COME UP FOR PUBLIC POLICY MAKERS WHAT IS THE RIGHT COURSE FOR PUBLIC EDUCATION FOR THIS COUNTRY GOING FORWARD?

>> NELSON UNDERREPORTED MY FRIEND.

>> WELL LESSONS FROM THE FIRST GLOBAL SUPERPOWER GREAT BRITAIN WAS THE FIRST GLOBAL SUPERPOWER AND IN LIGHT OF AFGHANISTAN, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE BRITISH EMPIRE ALSO HAD DISASTERS.

IN KHARTOUM GALLIPOLI, SINGAPORE, IN ALL OF THOSE >> PRIVATE PASS.

>> THEY DID.

BRITAIN EVENTUALLY DID PREVAIL AND IN PART BECAUSE THEY COULD NOT AFFORD TO RETREAT FROM THE WORLD.

THEY WERE A GLOBAL EMPIRE.

FOR THE UNITED STATES AS THE SECOND GLOBAL SUPERPOWER, VIETNAM, SOMALIA, AFGHANISTAN, THEY TEACH US THE SAME LESSONS THAT WE SHOULD HAVE LEARNED FROM HISTORY.

NOW IN OUR CASE AMERICA CAN ACTUALLY AFFORD TO RETREAT FROM THE WORLD, BUT THE CAUTION IS FOR OUR ADVERSARIES IN EUROPE, THE MIDDLE EAST IN ASIA.

IT WOULD BE VERY WISE FOR THEM TO ALLOW THE GIANT TO GO TO SLEEP.

>> OK, LET'S GO LIGHTNING ROUND WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN THIS WEEK.

MITCH?

>> WHAT'S UP IS BIPARTISAN COOPERATION ON NORTH CAROLINA EDUCATION GOALS, THAT WE HEAR THE FIGHT ABOUT THE STATE BUDGET INVOLVING THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY AND GOVERNOR COOPER, BUT MEANWHILE, THERE'S A NEW GROUP CALLED THE HUNT LEE COMMISSION THE CHAIR EMERITUS IS FORMER GOVERNOR JIM HUNT, THE THE LEES, THERE ARE 2 OF THEM, FORMER STATE SENATOR HOWARD LEE AND CURRENT STATE SENATOR MIKE LEE THEY'RE GOING TO GET BUSINESS, PHILANTHROPY, EDUCATION PEOPLE TOGETHER TO COME UP WITH SOME GOALS FOR SOME WIDE EDUCATION GOALS -- >> [MARC] MEET 4 TIMES A YEAR?

>> MEET FOUR TIMES A YEAR AND HAVE A REPORT BY SPRING OF 2022.

MY DOWN IS VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS, THERE WAS A RECENT RASMUSSEN REPORT POLL THAT SAID THAT 52% OF VOTERS THINK PRESIDENT BIDEN SHOULD RESIGN BECAUSE OF THE AFGHANISTAN DEBACLE EVEN A HIGHER PERCENTAGE THINK THAT HARRIS IS UNQUALIFIED TO REPLACE HIM.

>> IS SHE IN WITNESS PROTECTION RIGHT NOW?

I HAVEN'T SEEN HER.

OKAY WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN THIS WEEK?

>> WHAT'S UP AS THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE BEING AFFECTED BY SEVERE WEATHER.

JUST, I MEAN SHOCKING IMAGES NOT JUST COMING OUT OF LOUISIANA ON THE ANNIVERSARY OF HURRICANE KATRINA BY HURRICANE IDA.

BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN PENNSYLVANIA IN NEW JERSEY IN NEW YORK.

WHEN WE WERE AIRING THE SHOW THERE WERE MORE THAN 40 PEOPLE KILLED, THE FLOODING IN THE SUBWAYS IN NEW YORK CITY.

CENTER CITY PHILADELPHIA, AND OF COURSE THAT JUST DOESN'T COUNT ABOUT THE WILDFIRES OUT WEST AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND YOU REALLY CAN'T ESCAPE THESE KIND OF NATURAL DISASTERS ANYWHERE IN THE COUNTRY.

SO WE'VE REALLY GOT TO THINK ABOUT THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD.

WHAT'S DOWN IS PRESIDENT BIDEN'S DOMESTIC AGENDA.

HE IS VERY LUCKY THAT THE INFRASTRUCTURE VOTES IN THE SENATE HAPPENED BEFORE WHAT HAPPENED IN AFGHANISTAN.

>> THE FIRST INFRASTRUCTURE VOTE THE 1.2 TRILLION.

I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HAVE PASSED.

ONE OF THE BIPARTISAN INFRASTRUCTURE AND NOW WE HAVE SENATOR JOE MANCHIN WHO'S THE MODERATE DEMOCRAT FROM WEST VIRGINIA SAYING I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE 3.5 TRILLION DOLLAR YOU KNOW HUMAN INFRASTRUCTURE BUDGET AND THAT'S GOING TO CREATE SOME DEMOCRATIC INFIGHTING.

>> WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN QUICKLY.

>> WELL, YEAH, WHAT AMERICA MAKES BETTER THAN ANYBODY ELSE IN THE WORLD IS CELEBRITIES, AND SO THIS WEEK, ALANA "HONEY BOO BOO" THOMPSON WHO WAS FAMOUS FOR A REALITY SHOW, TURNED 16, GAVE A INTERVIEW WITH TEEN VOGUE, SHE IS BACK ON THE ON THE MARKET AND UNDOUBTEDLY WILL BE A CANDIDATE FOR CONGRESS HERE SHORTLY WHO'S DOWN, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, >> SHE'LL GET A RECALL IN CALIFORNIA.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, WHO'S DOWN IS SOCIAL MEDIA IN CHINA WHERE THEIR GOVERNMENT IS CRACKING DOWN ON CELEBRITY PRESENCE ON THEIR SOCIAL MEDIA SAYING 'NO MORE WILL WE HAVE POPULARITY LISTS, 'NO MORE WE HAVE CELEBRITIES HAVING 'UNFETTERED ACCESS TO THE PUBLIC THROUGH SOCIAL MEDIA.'

>> NELSON, WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN THIS WEEK?

>> JOB OPENINGS ARE UP.

THERE'S REAL CRISIS THERE.

JUNE DATA SHOWED THAT A RECORD 10.1 MILLION JOBS WERE OPEN.

YOU CAN'T GET THEM FILLED.

70% OF ALL THE SEPARATIONS IN JUNE WERE VOLUNTARY.

THEY'RE RETIREMENTS OR IN SOME CASES PEOPLE GOING FOR A BETTER JOB.

>> DOWN VERY QUICKLY.

>> DOWN QUICKLY SPEAKER PELOSI THIS WEEK.

THE SPEAKER SHUT DOWN AN EFFORT ON THE FLOOR BY HOUSE REPUBLICAN VETERANS WHO WANTED TO HONOR THE 13 SERVICE MEMBERS WHO LOST THEIR LIVES IN AFGHANISTAN.

>> HEADLINE NEXT WEEK, MITCH >> LAWMAKERS BEGIN MOUNTAINS TO COAST TOUR ON REDISTRICTING HEARING.

>> JONAH HEADLINE NEXT WEEK.

>> COUNTRY UNITES AS WE MARK 20 YEARS SINCE 9.11.

>> ARE WE SAFER TODAY THAN WE WERE 20 YEARS AGO?

>> IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND IN DIFFERENT WAYS NOT.

>> OKAY HEADLINE NEXT WEEK.

>> WITH ALL OF THE TROUBLE IN THE WORLD RESURGENCE COVID AFGHANISTAN.

CYBERCRIME ARE WE IN LINE FOR A FINANCIAL MARKETS SURPRISE IN OCTOBER?

>> GREAT CALL.

HEADLINE NEXT WEEK.

>> AFGHANISTAN CASTS A SHADOW ON 9.11 OBSERVANCES.

>> GREAT JOB JUST THAT'S IT FOR US, THANKS FOR WATCHING HAVE A GREAT LABOR DAY WEEKEND SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

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