>> CATHY: AS NOTED IN OUR LAST CONVERSATION, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS SPECIFICALLY TARGETED THE SOMALI COMMUNITY IN MINNESOTA, REFERRING TO ALL PEOPLE OF SOMALI DESCENT AS GARBAGE AND SAYING THAT THEY AREN'T WANTED HERE, REGARDLESS OF THEIR LEGAL STATUS AS CITIZENS.

JAYLANI HUSSEIN HEADS UP THE MINNESOTA CHAPTER OF THE COUNCIL ON AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS, KNOWN AS CAIR-MINNESOTA.

IT'S GOOD TO HAVE YOU BEING BA.

I KNOW IT'S BEEN BUSY.

I ASKED KAITLIN ABOUT THIS, CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF THE FEAR AND UNCERTAINTY IN THE SOMALI COMMUNITY?

>> THERE'S A LOT OF FEAR, YOU KNOW, TO BE ON HE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND THE PRESIDENT HAS NOT RETREATED, CONTINUED TO KEEP HIS REMARKS AGAINST THIS COMMUNITY AND THE LAST ONE CALLING US GARBAGE, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT.

BUT, AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TELL OUR STORY.

AND MANY PEOPLE ARE DOING, YOU KNOW, SOCIAL MEDIA, THEY'RE ONLINE, AND OTHER PLACES.

AND I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT THE SUCCESS.

I THINK PARTIALLY THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE'RE BEING TARGETED.

SOMALI AMERICAN EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN GREAT.

WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE TO BE IN THIS GREAT STATE OF MINNESOTA.

WE BENEFIT FROM THE FACT THAT WE CAME AFTER THE HMONG POPULATION, WHO PAVED A LOT MORE WAY.

AND MINNEAPOLIS AND TWIN CITIES, MINNESOTA, HAS BECOME A LOT MORE DIVERSE.

AND NOW WE'RE TELLING THE STORY, MINNESOTA SOMALIS ARE REALLY SUCCESSFULLY, ACTUALLY.

>> Cathy: THEN HOW, THEN, JAYLANI, DO YOU TELL THE STORY OR EXPLAIN THE LEVEL OF FRAUD THAT WE'VE SEEN IN MINNESOTA?

AND THEN OF THE DEFENDANTS ARE SOMALI AMERICAN.

>> I THINK THIS IS THE OLDEST STORY, WHEN BLACK PEOPLE OR PEOPLE OF COLOR, THEIR STORY IS TOLD THROUGH THE LENS OF CRIMINAL ACTIVITY.

CRIME IS SUBJECTIVE TO THE INDIVIDUAL.

AND FIRST AND FOREMOST, FRAUD IS WRONG.

IT IMPACTS ALL OF US AS TAXPAYERS, AS PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FROM TAKING CARE OF THOSE WHO ARE LESS FORTUNATE.

BUT TO DEFINE A COMMUNITY BY THE ACTS OF INDIVIDUALS IS THE DEFINITION OF RACISM.

AND, UNFORTUNATELY, THAT STORY HAS NOT BEEN TOLD.

REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA UNDERSTAND THE POLITICAL POWER OF SOMALIS AND NONE OF THEM, OR THE LAST THREE YEARS, EVER SAID THAT, RIGHTFULLY SO.

BUT WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP STOOD AND SAID THAT, THEY REFUSED TO CREATE A MORAL LINE AND I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SUFFER.

>> Eric: ARE YOU ABLE TO ADVISE THE COMMUNITY ON HOW TO HANDLE A DETAINMENT AND MAYBE GET LAWYERS READY, IMMIGRATION LAWYERS READY TO GO?

HOW ABOUT THAT STUFF?

>> WE HAVE BEEN DOING THAT.

I'M REALLY THANKFUL TO OUR NATIONAL CAIR NETWORK, WE HAVE IMMIGRATION ATTORNEYS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

MANY OF THEM ARE AVAILABLE FOR US RIGHT NOW.

SO WE ARE READY TO HANDLE THAT.

MINNESOTA'S VERY FORTUNATE TO HAVE ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE IMMIGRANT LAW CENTER, ADVOCATES FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, WE HAVE GOOD RESOURCES HERE.

WE DEFINITELY NEED MORE.

I KNOW A LOT MORE PEOPLE ARE AFRAID, BUT RIGHT NOW I KNOW FOR SURE IN THIS MOMENT WE ARE PROVIDING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE TO THOSE WHO NEED IT.

AND ALSO FOR PEOPLE AT HOME WHO ARE LIKE, HOW DO I SUPPORT MY SOMALI NEIGHBOR, HOW DO I HELP?

THIS IS A MOMENT FOR YOU TO ALSO KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO WITH I.C.E., WHAT CAN YOU NOT DO, HOW DO YOU PROTECT YOUR APARTMENT, YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, HOW YOU CAN BE SUPPORTIVE.

BECAUSE ONE THING, IT'S CLEAR ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM OR THIS TARGETING, IT'S TARGETING CITIZENS.

87% OF SOMALIS ARE EPP' EITHER PERMANENT RESIDENTS OR GREEN CARD HOLDERS -- I'M SORRY -- U.S.

CITIZENS.

IN FACT, I THINK THE LAST NUMBER WE LOOKED AT 60% ARE BORN HERE.

SO THE MAJORITY OF THE YOUTH, IN FACT, RIGHT NOW ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THE YOUTH ARE CLAPPING BACK, LIKE THERE'S NO TOMORROW, THEY'VE FIGURED OUT A WAY TO RESPOND.

THEIR WAY OF TALKING SOCIAL MEDIA.

BUT IT'S IMPORTANT, I THINK, IN THIS MOMENT AS A COMMUNITY, WE REALIZE, THESE ATTACKS ARE NOT GOING AWAY.

I AM SPEAKING TONIGHT TO THE MINNESOTANS HO ARE SITTING AT HOME, YOU LOVE OUR SAMBUSAS, WE'RE YOUR NEIGHBORS, YOUR BUS DRIVERS, YOUR TEACHERS, YOUR COLLEAGUES AT WORK, REACH OUT TO THOSE PEOPLE, AND SPEAK PROUDLY AS A MINNESOTAN TO SAY, SOMALI AMERICANS ARE MY NEIGHBORS, THEY'RE NOT GARBAGE, IN FACT, THEY MAKE THIS STATE EAUTIFUL.

>> Cathy: HAVE YOU ALSO SEEN FOLKS COMING OUT BEING ALMOST LIKE OBSERVERS, IN A SENSE, TOO?

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

YOU CAN DO A LOT.

YOU CAN OBSERVE, LEARN WHAT'S HAPPENING.

WE'VE ALREADY HEARD SOMEBODY GOT HURT BY I.C.E.

HOPEFULLY WE'LL LEARN MORE OF THE DETAILS.

CITIZEN, SOMEONE WHO ACTUALLY HAS A PERMANENT, I BELIEVE, A GREEN CARD.

WE'LL SORT OUT THE DETAILS OF THE STORY.

THERE'S A LOT COMING IN.

BUT PEOPLE CAN OBSERVE, PEOPLE CAN PLAY A ROLE, BECAUSE I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND, THIS IS NOT REALLY A TARGETED OF THE CLASSIC UNDOCUMENTED, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN NEW ORLEANS AND OTHER PARTS.

THEY'RE GOING AND TARGETING SOMALI AMERICANS WHO ARE CITIZENS OF THIS OUNTRY.

>> Eric: HOW MANY SOMALIS ARE IN MINNESOTA?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

CAIR'S NUMBERS ARE ABOUT 150, RANGES BETWEEN 91,000, WHICH WAS THE ORIGINAL NUMBER IN THE CENSUS, WE THINK IT'S A LOT MORE THAN THAT.

BUT I THINK WE'RE ABOUT 150,000.

>> Eric: APPRECIATE YOU COMING OVER.

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