
Some Illinois Lawmakers Push to Eliminate Subminimum Wage
Clip: 2/12/2024 | 8m 41sVideo has Closed Captions
Illinois may follow Chicago's lead and do away with subminimum wage.
A separate minimum wage for tipped workers is on its way out in Chicago — and now, progressive Illinois lawmakers want the rest of the state to follow suit. Under a new proposal, all tipped workers would have to be paid the equivalent of the state's regular minimum wage through wages and tips. If the tips fall short, their companies would have to make up the difference.
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Some Illinois Lawmakers Push to Eliminate Subminimum Wage
Clip: 2/12/2024 | 8m 41sVideo has Closed Captions
A separate minimum wage for tipped workers is on its way out in Chicago — and now, progressive Illinois lawmakers want the rest of the state to follow suit. Under a new proposal, all tipped workers would have to be paid the equivalent of the state's regular minimum wage through wages and tips. If the tips fall short, their companies would have to make up the difference.
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IT'S ON ITS WAY OUT IN CHICAGO.
NOW.
SOME ILLINOIS LAWMAKERS WANT THE REST OF THE STATE TO FOLLOW SUIT.
A NEW PROPOSAL ALL TIPPED WORKERS WOULD HAVE TO BE PAID THE EQUIVALENT OF THE STATE'S REGULAR MINIMUM WAGE THROUGH WAGES AND TIPS TO TIPS FALL SHORT.
THE COMPANIES WOULD HAVE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE AND JOINING US TO SHARE THEIR THOUGHTS ON THIS STATEWIDE PROPOSAL OR THE TALK ERODES, A NATIONAL LEAD ORGANIZER FOR ONE FAIR RANGE WAGE RAGE, PURE RAGE IN FOR ONE FAREWELL FOR H I GUESS.
AND PAT DOOR, THE DIRECTOR OF THE HOSPITALITY BUSINESS ASSOCIATION OF WELCOME TO BOTH OF YOU.
WE SHOULD MENTION THAT THE TIPPED WAGE ACROSS THE STATE RIGHT NOW IS 8.40, VERSUS A $14.
MINIMUM WAGE AND THAT AKIA.
WHAT DOES THIS BILL CALLED FOR?
HOW IS IT DIFFERENT THAN WHAT'S BEEN PUT IN PLACE IN CHICAGO?
>> WELL, BILL IS GOING TO BE FOR ALL WORKERS IN ILLINOIS'S.
SO THAT'S THE BIG DIFFERENCE.
IT DOES IS RIGHT NOW IS JUST CHICAGO, 2 WORKERS THAT'S GOING INTO EFFECT THIS YEAR.
THIS CAMPAIGN IS FOR THE INSIDE.
HIS STATE OF ILLINOIS IS A BASICALLY IF YOUR TIP WORKER.
>> AND YOU MAKE A 40 AND YOU MAKE TIPS, BUT IT DOESN'T EQUAL THE MINIMUM WAGE.
THEN COMPANY HAS TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE MAKING AT LEAST A MINIMUM WAGE, RIGHT?
ABSOLUTELY.
HAVE A HOUSE TAKING ON FORCE THAT OUT.
SO WE'RE DO THE LABOR FAR TO IT FOR AS A.
>> TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKERS GET THEIR BUT THAT'S A BIG PROBLEM RIGHT NOW.
>> IS WAY STAFF IS HARD WORKERS TO KEEP UP TO SAY LIKE, MY WAGE IS BEING IS NOT BEING MADE TIPS IN HAVE YOU HAVE TO TRACK FARE AND THEN SOME IMPOSE MY LIFE NOW I DID MAKE IT A BLAH, BLAH, THIS ANNETTE.
SO WE NEED ACROSS THE BOARD MINIMUM WAGE STARTING AT $15 AN HOUR WITH TIPS ON WRITE THAT RESTAURANTS AND OTHER BUSINESSES.
WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS?
>> WELL, JUST DECIMATED.
THE WAGE THEFT CLAIM.
THEY'RE ROBUST, FEDERAL AND STATE PROTECTIONS ALREADY WHERE THOSE WORKERS CAN REPORT TO THE ILLINOIS DEPARTMENT OF LABOR OR OTHER AGENCIES AND BRING PROSECUTIONS.
AND WE'VE SEEN HIGH-PROFILE PROSECUTIONS FOR THAT TO GET THOSE WRONGLY TAKEN WAGES REPAY TO THOSE WORKERS.
THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL IN UPTOWN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THERE ARE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE FOR THESE WORKERS AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE UNDER THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION.
WHAT OUR MAIN ISSUE IS WE HAVE NOT YET RECOVERED TO PRE-PANDEMIC LEVELS OF EMPLOYMENT OR BUSINESS IN THIS INDUSTRY.
ONCE YOU ACCOUNT FOR INFLATION, THE AVERAGE WEEKLY BARTENDERS SERVERS ARE UP 30% SINCE THE START OF THE PANDEMIC INFLATION.
THAT'S EVEN MORE THAN INFLATION.
SO WE FEEL THAT THE ECONOMY IS DECENT, BUT UNTIL WE'RE SELLING AS MUCH EMPLOYING AS MANY PEOPLE HAVE AS MANY PLACES IN CHICAGO IN ACROSS THE STATE.
THIS IS GETTING ANOTHER BARRIER TO FULL RECOVERY OVER HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY.
WHEN YOU TAKE INTO ACCOUNT TIPS TO MOST TEMP WORKERS.
>> MAKE BELOW THE STATE MINIMUM WAGE AFTER TIPS.
>> NOT OUTSIDE.
THAT'S CALLED A TRUE UP.
WHEN THAT HAPPENS.
I KNOW THE CHICAGO COOK COUNTY MARKET.
IF YOU SEE IT ALL, IT'S SOMETHING LIKE A POLAR VORTEX NOBODY COMES OUT YOUR RESTAURANT AND THE SERVERS ARE READY.
MOST OF THE PAYROLL PROGRAM SEE SMALL BUSINESSES USE ARE GREAT FOR CATCHING THAT TO MAKE SURE THE EMPLOYERS NOW ARE THERE.
DEFINITELY BAD ACTORS.
SURE.
AND THEY SHOULD BE PROSECUTED BY THE CITY AND THE STATE.
BUT IT'S A VERY RARE OCCURRENCE AND PEOPLE PREFER TO TIP.
THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH SAYING, ELLEN, I CONSUMERS PREFER.
THE TIPPING OPPORTUNITY TO A SERVICE CHARGE JUST ON A TRACK.
WHAT ABOUT THAT?
AND TALKING PEOPLE PREFER TO TIP IF THEY KNOW THERE'S A 10 MINIMUM WAGE, MAYBE THEY'LL BE LESS LIKELY SO IF YOU KNOW THAT I'M MAKING $15 AN HOUR.
>> TEARS ARE NOT GOING EXACTLY.
BUT WE HAVE DOES THAT THIS IS THE OLD TALKING POINTS OF THE ILLINOIS RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION.
>> EVERY TIME WE SAY WE WANT TO RAISE WAGES.
THEY ALWAYS WANT TO CUT TO WORK OUT.
SINCE THE WORKERS HAVE WENT ON THE GREAT RESIGNATION WORKERS, DO NOT WANT TO WORK FOR LOW WAGES.
NORMAL ACROSS THE BOARD.
WHEN MEN, 75% OF THE INDUSTRY'S MADE OF WOMEN.
THIS CAMPAIGN IS BASED ON WHEN IT WAS A HIGHER WAGE FOR THEIR FOR THEIR WORK.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT TIPS.
THIS IS ABOUT THE WAGE NEEDS TO BE RAISED AND EVERY IN 2018, THE GOVERNESS I TO GO RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE.
HE CUT TO WORK THIS DURING THE PANDEMIC.
THE GOVERNOR EVEN HAVE WHEN YOU ALL WERE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS AND THIS AND THAT THE GOVERNOR SAY, HEY, WAIT A MINUTE, WE ALREADY CUT TO WORK OUT LIKE OVER AND OVER.
YOU KNOW THAT YOU'RE CUTTING OUT OVER.
75 1% OF WOMEN HAD ANYONE TO JUMP IN WITH THIS.
THAT AND THAT THE WAY WE WERE CLOSE INDOOR DINING FOR THE BETTER PART OF THE YEAR.
THAT WAS TOUGH ON THE SERVERS AND THE OWNERS WERE ON IT TOGETHER.
>> FOR THE NEW TOGETHER, WHEN IT COMES TIME TO RAISE THE WAY WE WILL WHEN IT COMES AND IT TAKEN CARE OF YOUR FAMILIES WHEN IT COMES TIME.
SO WORKERS BEING ABLE FOR EVERYTHING THAT YOU ALL ABLE 3 POINTS GREAT WORK.
AND VARIANCE IN THE WEST COAST.
HE'S BEEN.
>> THAT THE CONSUMERS AT FULL-SERVICE RESTAURANTS, CABLE CROSS TIP LAST.
>> THAT'S ACROSS THE BOARD UP AND DOWN THE WEST CONSUL.
WE'RE GOING TO FOR A AT WHAT ABOUT I MEAN, COULD COULD CAUSE P HANDED DOWN TO CONSUMERS.
AND IF THE IF THIS, IF RESTAURANTS ARE HOSPITALITY, BUSINESS HAVE TO SHOULDER, WE HAVE EXCEPTIONAL INFLATION AND MY PERSONAL OPINION IS WHEN WE GET TO THE $20 TALK ON BURGER, WE REACHED A TIPPING POINT WITH CONSUMERS WHERE THEY FEEL IT'S TOO EXPENSIVE.
>> WE HAVE PROPERTY TAXES.
WE HAVE THE HIGHEST MEAL TAXES IN CHICAGO.
LAND IN THE COUNTRY AND OTHER TAXES ALL HAVE TO BE DIGESTED.
BUT MY LONGER CONCERNED WITH THIS THERE HAVE TO BE THAT JUST A MY BIGGER CONCERN HERE AND THE BIG STOMACH, IT COULD BE IF YOU LOOK AT WEST COAST EMPLOYMENT, WE HAVE FEW OR WORKERS PER CAPITA IN THESE INDUSTRIES.
YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE DISNEYLAND IN CALIFORNIA.
YOUR HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY WANTS I MEAN, THEY GET MORE WORKERS BACK TO CALIFORNIA HAS TO TO KNOW YOU SAID WATER.
>> YOU SAY A FLORIDA?
I'M SORRY.
I DID.
I HELP OR THERE'S FEWER WORKERS PER CAPITA IN THESE INDUSTRIES.
SO THE GOAL REALLY THE DIFFERENCE WHERE WE HAVE AN HONEST U.S.
DISAGREEMENT IS IS IT BETTER PAYING JOBS FOR A SLIGHTLY FEWER PEOPLE?
WE'RE MORE GOOD PAYING JOBS FOR MORE PEOPLE AND MOST SMALL BUSINESSES.
AND WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CHAIN OPERATOR STAND ON THE SIDE OF LETS EMPLOYERS.
MANY PEOPLE ARE DECENT WAGES.
WE CAN'T AND PUNISH BAD ACTORS.
BUT COULD THIS BRING MORE PEOPLE BACK TO THE INDICES?
AS I KNOW, IT'S STILL NOT RECOVER TO PRE-COVID LEVEL IN TERMS OF A SERVERS AND HOSPITALITY WORKERS AND THAT'S THE CARROT TO GET THEM BACK.
I DON'T THINK SO BECAUSE THE STATES WITH THE WORST, ALMOST UNCONSCIONABLE SUB $3 WAGE HAVE BROUGHT BACK FOR MORE JOBS FAR FASTER THAN AND WHETHER THAT WAS BECAUSE THEY REOPEN FASTER DURING THE PANDEMIC OR NOT.
IT'S HARD TO SAY, BUT OUR RECOVERY IN EMPLOYMENT HAS LAGGED STATES WITH THE LOWEST WAGES, TALKING WITH THIS BE LIKE CHICAGO, WHERE, YOU KNOW, CHICAGO, THEY TO GO.
SHE ATION WITH THE RESTAURANT INDUSTRY.
SO IT'S GOING TO PHASE IN OVER 5 YEARS WOULD BE WOULD THAT BE WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR WITH THE YEAH, DEFINITELY.
LOOK >> COLUMN COMPROMISE.
I MEAN, NOT COMPROMISE.
WHEN AGO AT THE STATE LEVEL.
AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE OUR BILL AND WE DID THE BILL BUT TO SAY THAT THIS BILL THAT THE RESTAURANT OWNERS DON'T WANT IT, THEY DO WANT IT.
WANTS THEY THEY WORK.
THE WORKERS ARE GOING TO BE COIN COMING TO CHICAGO TO WORK THE REST OF WANT.
OWNERS IN CICERO WANTS ONE FAIR WAGE SO THEY DO WANT IT.
AND THAT'S THE PRESS CONFERENCE.
>> WELL, THEY'RE BILL SAYS 2 YEARS, WHICH IS A VERY SHORT FACE AND BUT CHICAGO HAD A HIGHER MINIMUM WAGE FOR THE LAST 5 YEARS IN THE STATE.
WE DID NOT SEE.
THE MAYOR SAYS ROSE PROJECTED EXODUS OF WORKERS, CHICAGO, YOU WORK WHERE YOU ARE BECAUSE OF LOCATION ACCESS YOUR KIDS, FAMILIES.
THERE'S A BUNCH OF REASONS WE WERE AHEAD OF THE SUBURBS FOR A LONG TIME AND IT DID NOT MOVE THE NEEDLE ON EMPLOYMENT MUCH.
WHAT HAS MOVED THE NEEDLE.
A SENSE ONE FAIR WAGE WAS ON THE TABLE CITY HALL.
EMPLOYMENT IN THIS INDUSTRY HAS NOT GROWN AT THE RATE IN CHICAGO.
IT HAS AND
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