
Spotlight Politics: Latest Challenge to Assault Weapons Ban
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The ban on Chicago police officers belonging to extremist groups takes effect Saturday. The U.S. Supreme Court took a pass on the latest challenge to Illinois’ assault weapons ban. And why it took decades to prove former Ald. Ed Burke's corruption and abuse of power.
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Spotlight Politics: Latest Challenge to Assault Weapons Ban
Clip: 1/9/2024 | 7m 54sVideo has Closed Captions
The ban on Chicago police officers belonging to extremist groups takes effect Saturday. The U.S. Supreme Court took a pass on the latest challenge to Illinois’ assault weapons ban. And why it took decades to prove former Ald. Ed Burke's corruption and abuse of power.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipPOLICE OFFICERS BELONGING TO EXTREMIST GROUPS TAKES EFFECT THIS WEEKEND.
MEANWHILE, THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TAKES A PASS ON THE LATEST CHALLENGE TO ILLINOIS'S ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN AND WHY IT TOOK DECADES TO PROVE FORMER ALDERMAN ED BURKE CORRUPTION AND ABUSE OF POWER.
HERE.
WITH ALL THAT AND MORE IS OUR SPOTLIGHT.
POLITICS TEAM AMANDA VICKI HAD OR SHARON AND PARIS SCHUTZ.
HELLO AGAIN, THE GANG'S ALL HERE.
SO AS WE SAID, STARTING SATURDAY, A POLICY THAT BANS CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS FROM JOINING EXTREMIST GROUPS TAKES EFFECT.
HEATHER, HOW CPD GOING TO IMPLEMENT OR ENFORCE THIS?
WELL, THIS IS REALLY THE CRUCIAL QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S ONE THING TO HAVE A POLICY ON THE BOOKS.
AND IT'S ANOTHER THING TO HOLD A CHICAGO POLICE OFFICER ACCOUNTABLE FOR VIOLATING THAT POLICY.
AND IF YOU ASK INSPECTOR GENERAL DE PERE WHISPERED, SHE SAYS, LOOK, THERE'S ALREADY A POLICY ON THE BOOKS THAT SAYS OFFICERS CANNOT BRING DISREPUTE TO THE DEPARTMENT.
>> AND AFTER YOUR CONVERSATION WITH ROBERT PAPE, IF THERE'S NOT SOMETHING THAT BRINGS DISPERSED PEW TO A LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY, THEN ASSOCIATING WITH GROUPS LIKE OATH KEEPERS AND THE PROUD BOYS.
I AM HARD PRESSED TO THINK OF IT.
THEY HAVE BEEN UNABLE TO FIRE MANY AS DOZEN POLICE OFFICER WHO HAVE TIES TO THOSE GROUPS.
WHETHER THIS POLICY, ONE OF THE FIRST TO BE VOTED ON AND IMPLEMENTED BY THE COMMUNITY COMMISSION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AND ACCOUNTABILITY.
IT'S VERY MUCH AN OPEN QUESTION.
THERE'S A MINUS WHY THEY PASSED THIS FAN OR OVER.
THERE IS THAT KIND OF HIGH-PROFILE CASE OF FOR OFFICER ROBERT THEY FAIL.
THEY HE WAS FOUND TO HAVE TIES ADMITTED TO HAVE TIES TO THE PROUD BOYS, EXTREMIST GROUP WHOSE LEADERS WERE CONVICTED FOR THEIR ROLE IN THE JANUARY 6 INSURRECTION.
AND AS HEATHER SAID, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.
>> TO EXPEL A POLICE OFFICER FOR A REASON LIKE THE BEER OF INTERNAL AFFAIRS DID.
THEIR INVESTIGATION SAID LOOK WEEKLY, WE DON'T HAVE GROUNDS TO FIRE.
THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER OFFICERS.
AS HEATHER MENTIONED, THEY CAME THE SAME CONCLUSION.
THE IG DENVER WITH SAID NO, NO, NO, NO.
YOU'VE GOT A LOOK AT THIS AGAIN.
THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT GROUNDS TO EXPEL THESE OFFICERS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, CITY COUNCIL COMES IN AND SAYS, I GUESS WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE TO PASS ORDINANCE HERE.
KIND OF DEFINE THIS.
BUT AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GONE THROUGH THESE ISSUES OF POLICE MISCONDUCT.
THERE'S THE POLICE BOARD.
THERE'S THERE'S HOW THESE THINGS GET ADJUDICATED IN THE POLICE UNION.
YOU KNOW, FIGHTS THESE THINGS A TOOTH AND NAIL.
AND AGAIN, IN THESE CASES THEY WERE CLEAR CUT THE OFFICERS HAD ADMITTED OR HAD DOCUMENTED THEIR TIES TO GROUPS LIKE THE OATH KEEPERS AND THE 3 PERCENTERS IN THE PROUD BOYS.
I'M HEATHER.
SPEAKING OF, OF COURSE, THE POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD MENTION 7 PERMANENT MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WILL BE SELECTED FORT WHO IS QUALIFIED TO SERVE ON THIS.
SO YOU HAVE TO SPEND A CHICAGO IN FOR 5 YEARS IN.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF EXPERTISE EITHER HAS A LAWYER OR A COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.
>> THE BOARD ALSO HAS TO BE BALANCED GEOGRAPHICALLY 2 MEMBERS FROM THE NORTH SOUTH AND WEST SIDE, AT LEAST AS WELL AS 2 MEMBERS YOUNGER THAN 24 ENSURE THAT CHICAGO'S YOU HAS A VOICE ON THIS COMMISSION.
SO IT IS VERY MUCH AN OPEN QUESTION AS TO WHETHER ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL APPLY FOR THESE POSITIONS THAT THE NOMINATING COMMITTEE AND THEN MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON CAN PICK FROM THIS IS REALLY A TEST OF WHETHER THIS NEW OVERSIGHT STRUCTURE THAT IS DESIGNED TO GIVE REAL CHICAGOANS A SAY IN HOW THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OPERATES.
WEATHER WORKS WERE APPROACHING THAT AND THERE'S LIKE 400 HOURS OF LIKE NEGOTIATING IN LEGISLATING WITH ALL THE TO COME TO THIS.
>> KIND OF FRANKENSTEIN A SOLUTION BECAUSE NO ONE COULD AGREE ON WHAT THIS WOULD LOOK LIKE.
SO THEY NEGOTIATE, NEGOTIATE, NEGOTIATE.
>> AND THIS KIND OF IS WHAT THEY CAME UP WITH.
AND THAT'S WHY IT'S COMPLICATED.
THAT'S IT'S AWESOME.
BECAUSE IF IT'S COMPLICATED BECAUSE IT'S THERE'S ALSO THIS RECENT THE STATEWIDE BAN BACK IN THE HEADLINES AGAIN, U.S. SUPREME COURT DECIDING THE LOWER DECIDING TO TAKE A PASS SHOULD SAY GUNS.
BUT THE LATEST CHALLENGE TO ILLINOIS'S ASSAULT WEAPONS.
>> BAND BROUGHT BY STATE REPRESENTATIVE DAN CAULKINS WATER.
HE AND OTHERS ARGUING WELL, SO THIS IS SORT OF A DIFFERENT ATTEMPTS WHAT REALLY CRUCIAL TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT THIS IS LIKELY NOT THE END OF THE LEGAL CHALLENGES FOR THIS LAW, INCLUDING EVEN BEFORE THE U.S. SUPREME COURT.
SO SECOND AMENDMENT CHALLENGES STILL REMAIN CAULKINS AND TRIED TO GO ANOTHER ROUTE, WHICH IS INTERESTING IS WE'RE APPROACHING AN ELECTION IN WHICH THERE'S AN OPEN SEAT FOR COOK COUNTY FOR A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE IN ILLINOIS.
>> GIVEN THAT THIS CASE WAS DECIDED BY A 5 TO 2 MAJORITY, INCLUDING 2 NEW JUSTICES EACH RECEIVED A MILLION DOLLARS FROM GOVERNOR JB PRITZKER, WEIGHT WAS A DEFENDANT IN THIS CASE GIVEN THAT HE SIGNED IT INTO LAW.
AND SO CHALLENGE.
BUT MICHAEL KUNZE SAID HE MIGHT PROCESS RIGHTS WERE VIOLATED.
THIS IS A COURT THAT DOESN'T HAVE THEY SHOULD HAVE RECUSED THEMSELVES FROM THEIR CASE.
IT STRIKES AT THE INDEPENDENCE OF THE JUDICIARY.
IF YOU'RE WEIGHING IN ON A CASE FROM SOMEBODY FROM HER MUSIC, SEPTA DONATIONS.
AND SO THAT WAS WHAT IT IS.
YOU SAID IT'S NOT THAT THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WEIGHED IN ON THOSE ARGUMENTS.
JUST THAT AS SO MANY CASES, THEY SAID WE'RE GOING TAKE A PASS TO NOT HEAR KNOW THAT THE REGISTRATION REQUIREMENT DEADLINE HAS PASSED.
IT TOOK EFFECT JULY FIRST JANUARY.
FIRST, USE ME.
I KNEW THAT STARTED WITH THE LETTER.
HOW'S IT GOING YOU KNOW, IT'S IT'S NOT GOING GREAT.
PRESUMABLY WE DON'T REALLY HAVE ANY WAY TO KNOW HOW MANY GUNS SHOULD BE REGISTERED PER THE LAW.
BUT WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SOME 2.4 MILLION FOID CARDHOLDERS IN REALLY TINY LIKE ONE PERCENT OF THAT THAT THE LESS THAN 30,000 >> INDIVIDUALS HAVE REGISTERED SO WE KNOW THAT IT'S NOT GOING GREAT.
AND NOW THAT THE DEADLINE HAS PASSED, THERE ARE A LOT OF UNKNOWN QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHETHER PROSECUTORS ARE GOING TO FOLLOW UP ON THIS.
IT ALL, WHETHER THERE WILL BE ANY SORT OF COMPLIANCE CHECKS IN FURTHER WHAT HAPPENS IF IT IS PASSED.
YOU SAY, OH, GOSH, I DO HAVE A GUN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE REGISTERED AND YOU FILE IT.
WILL YOU GET IN TROUBLE?
THERE'S A MEETINGS MUST DISPEL RULES AFTER THE DEADLINE IN THE THE 16TH, RIGHT?
I'M SURE HE'LL TELL US MORE ONCE WE FIGURE THAT OUT OF COURSE, AS WE COVERED FORMER ALDERMAN ED BURKE CONVICTED OF 13 OUT OF 14 COUNTS OF RACKETEERING, BRIBERY AND EXTORTION.
IT ALL WENT DOWN JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
BUT HOW DO WE KNOW YOU'VE TAKEN?
>> A CLOSER LOOK AT THIS CASE.
WHY DID ACCOUNTABILITY TAKE SO LONG?
WELL, I REALLY THINK THAT'S THE FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION THAT CHICAGOANS ARE LEFT WITH AFTER THIS REALLY LAND TO MARK VERDICT BECAUSE THE TAPES THAT WE HEARD WERE ED BURKE SORT OF REFLECTS OF LEE ENGAGING IN CORRUPTION WHEN EVER GIVEN.
>> THE SLIGHTEST OPPORTUNITY.
AND THAT IS WHY HE IS LIKELY FACING A LENGTHY PRISON SENTENCE.
MY QUESTION WAS, WHY WAS HE ALLOWED TO OPERATE THAT WAY?
AND I THINK THAT THE THE THE REALLY ONLY QUESTION THE ONLY ANSWER TO THAT IS THIS BECAUSE THAT IS THE CULTURE THAT CHICAGOANS WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH AND HOW DIFFICULT IT IS TO MAKE THESE KIND OF CASES.
AND I SPOKE WITH CONSTANT NIXON WHO TESTIFIED IN CASE AND SAID, LOOK, IF IT HADN'T BEEN FOR DANNY SOLIS, TAKING THE PROSECUTORS BEHIND THESE CLOSED DOORS, THIS PROBABLY NEVER WOULD HAVE HAPPENED.
SO IT IS REALLY SORT OF THE FUNDAMENTAL ISSUE IS WHY HE IS THE 38TH ALDERMAN SINCE 1969 TO BE CONVICTED OF CORRUPTION.
AND AS U.S. ATTORNEY SAID, THE $64,000 QUESTION IS, WILL THIS DETER OTHER POLITICIANS FROM ENGAGING IN SIMILAR SIDE-FOOT PUT FOLKS.
ALL THE PEOPLE WERE MORE AND SO HEATHER, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, IF THERE HAD BEEN ANY OTHER PERSON IN CITY COUNCIL THROUGHOUT THOSE YEARS BECAUSE THEY ALL KNEW WHAT HE WAS DOING, HE ABSTAIN FROM HUNDREDS 100'S OF VOTES FOR A REASON BECAUSE HE HAD A CONFLICT OF INTEREST.
BUT WE KNOW THAT HE INFLUENCED THOSE VOTES.
THEY ALL KNEW HAD ANY OF THEM.
>> GOING TO THE FED'S EARLIER.
AND THERE WAS ALSO THE INSPECTOR GENERAL JOE FERGUSON, WHO IS ON HIM ALSO FOR MANY YEARS AND WAS A PART OF THIS CASE.
SO IT AND THE LAST SAYS ED BURKE WAS TOO SMART.
HE'S TOO QUICK FOR THE FACE UNTIL HE WASN'T MUCH.
LET'S ALSO REMEMBER HOW MUCH WAS CAUGHT ON THOSE TAPES?
THINGS.
IT'S FRANKLY SURPRISED
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