
St. Paul Police Chief Sues the Mayor
Clip: Season 2027 Episode 4 | 6m 14sVideo has Closed Captions
Fred Melo discusses the fallout of sexual harassment allegations and the council’s tax levy.
Fred Melo discusses the fallout of sexual harassment allegations and the council’s tax levy.
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St. Paul Police Chief Sues the Mayor
Clip: Season 2027 Episode 4 | 6m 14sVideo has Closed Captions
Fred Melo discusses the fallout of sexual harassment allegations and the council’s tax levy.
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NOW, IF YOU TUNED IN TO SEE THE HENNEPIN COUNTY ATTORNEY DEBATE, THAT WILL START IN JUST ABOUT 20 MINUTES.
WE'RE GOING TO START TONIGHT WITH THIS WEEK'S BIG NEWS OUT OF THE CAPITOL CITY.
ST.
PAUL POLICE CHIEF AXEL HENRY FILED A LAWSUIT AGAINST MAYOR KAOHLY HER CLAIMING SHE SEXUALLY HARASSED HIM.
THE LEGAL ACTION COMES AFTER A CITY INVESTIGATION DETERMINED HER BEHAVIOR WAS INAPPROPRIATE BUT DIDN'T REACH THE LEVEL OF HARASSMENT.
THIS CAME IN THE SAME WEEK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL BEGAN WORK ON THE CITY BUDGET BY APPROVING A CAP ON A PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
FRED MELO IS BACK.
HE COVERS ALL THINGS ST.
PAUL CITY HALL FOR THE ST.
PAUL "PIONEER PRESS."
>> THANKS.
>> Cathy: HI.
>> Eric: WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON?
>> OH, MY GOODNESS, THERE'S A LOT OF POLITICKING BACK AND FORTH.
THERE'S ALSO ACQUISITIONS OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT.
IT'S KIND OF A 70-PAGE SUIT.
BUT THE POLICE CHIEF IS SAYING THAT THE MAYOR PUT HER HANDS ON HIS THIGH IN BUDGET MEETINGS.
THAT SHE HAD HER SCHEDULER KIND OF FORCE HIM INTO A SATURDAY NIGHT DATE.
AT A BAR.
IT WAS GOING TO BE AT MANCINI'S CHARHOUSE, BUT THEY DON'T SERVE THC DRINKS.
ARE WE COLLEAGUES, FRIENDS?
OR DO OU WANT TO JUST GO, WHICH HE TOOK TO MEAN RESIGN.
AND THINGS GOT PERSONAL.
THINGS GOT WEIRD.
HE'S GOING, 'M JUST RINKING SODA.
LIKE, DO YOU NEED A RIDE HOME BECAUSE THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
BUT IN ADDITION TO THAT, THE DEPUTY CHIEFS ARE UNIONIZING, THERE'S A BACK PAY ISSUE WHERE THE -- HOW THEIR BACK PAY GOT RECORDED IS WEIRD AND IT'S AFFECTING THEIR PENSION.
HE'S TRYING TO GET THAT RESOLVED.
SHE'S NOT BEING TOO HELPFUL.
SHE HAS A DRIVER THAT SHE WANTED 16 HOURS A DAY, 7 DAYS A WEEK, THAT'S VERY EXPENSIVE.
HE KIND OF OBJECTED TO THAT.
SHE SAID, FINE, I'LL HIRE THE RAMSEY COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO BE MY DETAIL.
THAT'S UNHEARD OF THAT THE ST.
PAUL MAYOR DOESN'T HAVE ST.
PAUL POLICE PROTECTING HER.
SO THERE SEEMS TO BE A BIG OVERLAP BETWEEN STUFF HAPPENING THAT'S PHYSICALLY INAPPROPRIATE AND STUFF HAPPENING THAT'S KIND OF POLITICAL.
>> Cathy: OUR MIC S NOT WORKING, YOUR IC IS NOT WORKING SO WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS, YOU LAID OUT THE 73-PAGE REPORT IS GOT A LOT OF -- SOME PRETTY EXPLOSIVE THINGS IN IT, RIGHT?
SOME SOMSOME EXPLOSIVE ALLEGATIONS.
YOU GOT TWO POWERFUL INDIVIDUALS, THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF AND THE MAYOR IS THE CHIEF'S BOSS.
BUT STILL TWO PRETTY POWERFUL PEOPLE IN CITY HALL.
HOW DOES THIS POWER DYNAMIC THEN BE, HOW DO THE INTERACTIONS CHANGE AT CITY HALL BECAUSE OF ALL THIS?
>> THERE'S A PALPABLE QUESTION WHETHER THE TWO CAN CONTINUE WORKING TOGETHER.
THE POLICE CHIEF IS IN A SITUATION WHERE YOUR PENSION IS DETERMINED BY YOUR THREE HIGHEST PAID YEARS.
WHEN HE BECAME HIEF, HE'S A NONUNIONIZED POSITION, HE TOOK A PAY CUT.
SO IF HE RETIRED TOMORROW HE'D GET A RAISE BECAUSE IT'S BASED ON THE THREE HIGHEST YEARS BEFORE HE BECAME CHIEF.
SO HE'S IN THIS WEIRD POSITION WHERE HE COULD ABSOLUTELY WALK.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO RESPECT THE CHIEF.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO VOTED FOR HER AND WANT TO SEE THINGS MOVE FORWARD.
CERTAINLY COMING OUT OF OPERATION METRO SURGE, THERE WAS A LOT OF TENSION THERE.
THERE WAS A BIG PROTEST ON ROSE AVENUE.
THAT PUT KIND OF PROTESTERS, PITTED THEM AGAINST THE POLICE.
SO KIND OF MOVING FORWARD, JUST TODAY, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SUED ST.
PAUL OVER, YOU KNOW, GUN ONTROL ISSUES.
SO MOVING FORWARD, WITHOUT HAVING THE MAYOR AND THE ST.
PAUL POLICE BEING ABLE TO EVEN BE IN THE SAME CAR, THAT'S WEIRD.
>> Cathy: IS HER JOB IN JEOPARDY?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
>> Eric: WHAT'S THE PROCESS TO ACTUALLY DO THAT?
>> YOU WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A RECALL PETITION TO DO THAT.
I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYONE ORGANIZING ONE.
I THINK THERE'S MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL THAT ARE KIND OF QUIETLY ITCHING TO MAKE A STATEMENT.
KIND OF CONDEMNING SOME OF THIS ALLEGED BEHAVIOR.
EVERYONE'S INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.
BUT THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME SHE'S GOTTEN IN TROUBLE.
SHE HAD A RESTRAINING ORDER THAT SOMEBODY TRIED TO FILE AGAINST HER IN ANUARY, A FORMER FRIEND.
THERE'S BEEN ALLEGATIONS OF WRONGDOING AT THE STATE CAPITOL WHEN SHE WAS A STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND THROUGH MY OWN REPORTING, I FOUND IT WAS PRETTY COMMON FOR HER TO GO UP TO COWORKERS AND JUST GRAB THEM BY THE BACKSIDE, JUST IN FRONT OF FAMILY AND IN FRONT OF COWORKERS.
AND SHE KIND OF THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY.
>> Cathy: SO IS THERE A MECHANISM ON THE CITY LEVEL AT ALL, AND YOU KIND OF MAYBE ANSWERED THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT WOULD THERE BE ANY MECHANISM WHERE THE CITY COUNCIL COULD BRING FORTH ANYTHING, A RESOLUTION?
MAYBE THIS IS SILLY TO EVEN ASK.
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK I'D HAVE TO PROBE THAT A LITTLE FURTHER.
LEGALLY, I HAVEN'T HEARD OF ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
THE RECALL PETITION I THINK IS PROBABLY THE MOST REALISTIC THING.
BUT THE CITY COUNCIL'S MEETING NEXT WEDNESDAY, CLOSED DOOR MEETING, TO TALK ABOUT PENDING LITIGATION, WHICH IS THE POLICE CHIEF'S LITIGATION.
AND THEN THEY'D PROBABLY OPEN THE MEETING AND HIRE AN OUTSIDE FIRM TO DEAL WITH SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
>> Eric: ST.
PAUL DOWNTOWN DID GET AN ALDI!
>> ALL OF THIS IS KIND OF OVERSHADOWED.
WE GOT AN ALDI WHERE LUND'S USED TO BE.
WE HAD A HUGELY RESIDENTIAL DOWNTOWN WITH NO GROCERY FOR THE LAST YEARS AND CHANGE.
TODAY I TOUR AID THE STELLA APARTMENTS, A $68 MILLION CONVERSION.
ECOLAB TOWER, THE PRICEYEST IS $5,999 A MONTH.
IT'S A NICE APARTMENT.
BEAUTIFUL VIEW.
AND THEN WABASHA PLAZA, IT'S A $4 MILLION PARK THAT JUST OPENED.
SO ALL DOWNTOWN, THERE'S GOOD THINGS DOWNTOWN.
>> Eric: YOU LEAVE WITH
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