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FROM THE COLUMBUS ZIS.

SAM GRESHAM OF COMMON CAUSE.

AND GENE KREBS FORM STATE LEGISLATOR.

OHIO IMAGINATIVELY DRAWN LEGISLATIVE DISTRICTS IN THE HANDS OF THE OHIO SUPREME COURT.

THE STATE'S TOP JUSTICES HEARD ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE FAIRNESS OF THE NEW MAPS IN THE OF THE STATE HOUSE AND SATE STATE HOUSE DISTRICTS THESE ARE THE MAPS THAT THE GIVE THE SUPERMAJORITY IN THE LEGISLATURE EVEN THOUGH OHIO IS FAIRLY EVENLY DIVIDED POLITICALLY AND THE CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT SAYS LAWMAKERS SHOULD NOT DRAW MAPS THAT CREATE AN OVERT PARTISAN ADVANTAGE.

DEMOCRATS AND VOTER RIGHTS GROUPS SAY THE MAPS ARE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

REPUBLICAN LEADERS DISAGREE, THEY SAY THEY MEET REQUIREMENTS AND THE LAW.

THE ISSUE COULD COME DOWN TO CHIEF JUSTICE MAUREEN O'CONNOR, A SWING VOTE ON THE COURT.

AND SHE SEEMED DUBIOUS.

>> MY CONCERN, QUESTION.

THE CHALLENGE UP 54-46.

>> THAT'S IF YOU LOOK VOTES CAST.

>> WELL THAT'S WHAT SUPPOSED TO DO.

>> NOT NECESSARILY.

THE CONSTITUTE USE THE TERM ELECTION RESULTS.

THAT COULD MEAN VOTES CAST.

>> SAM GRESHAM, THE OPPOSING THESE MOEPS MAPS ARE YOU ENCOURAGED BY THE CHIEF JUSTICE'S CONCERN, THE QUESTION?

>> YES, I AM, MIKE.

OUR APPROACH IS THE TOPDOWN APPROACH.

THEY ARE TALKING ALL ELECTIONS OVER THE FIELD THEY ARE TRYING TO THE BALANCE FOR.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A 54 MUCH MORE EQUITABLE.

AND I LIKE SOME KIND OF RAISE THE QUESTION THE QUESTION.

SHE LANDED ON.

THEREFORE SO SKEWED THAT THE NUMBERS DON'T REALLY REPRESENT DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS -- >> FROM THE SPOURT BEEN AROUND A LONG TIME -- THIS THING HAS TOO MANY LOOPHOLES AND I HOPE THE TWO GROUPS VOTES ON HOW TO GO AHEAD AND HOLD THIS UP.

>> JUST A MOMENT.

WHAT HAPPENS IF THE SUPREME COURT REJECTS THESE MAPS?

WHAT HAPPENS NEXT?

>> THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CHIEF JUSTICE O'CONNOR ACTUALLY HAD.

SHE SAID DO YOU JUST REDRAW IT?

I THINK THE COURT HAS A SENSE OF THE POTENTIAL HARM OF EXTENDED DELAYS ESPECIALLY AS WE GET CLOSER TO THE FILING DEADLINE.

SO THOSE CAN BE SPECIFICS.

SO YOU CAN'T SAY LIKE DO THIS OR DO THAT.

BUT THEY CAN SAY, HEY, THAT'S NOT ALL RIGHT WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS.

OR OVER IN SUMMIT COUNTY WE NEED TO BACK THERE.

THEY CAN GET SPECIFIC IN DIRECTION TO LAWMAKERS.

EVEN THOUGH THEY CAN'T EXPLICITLY DIRECT THEM TO MAKE SPECIFIC CHANGES.

>> CAN THEY SAY YOU HAVE TO HAVE A FORMULA THAT GIVES 54% OF THE SEATS IN THEORY TO REPUBLICANS AND 46% TO DEMOCRATS?

CAN CAN THEY BE THAT SPECIFIC USE THIS MEASUREMENT.

>> I THINK THEY CAN SAY -- THEY CAN INDICATE A PREFERENCE FOR SUCH A DIVISION.

I'M NOT SURE THEY CAN GO AS FAR AS TO SAY IT HAS TO BE THAT WAY.

I ALSO THEY CAN SET A DEADLINE.

THEY CAN SAY WE WANT A NEW MAP BY X DATE.

I THINK THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE TO JANUARY TO FEBRUARY.

WE'RE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A PRIMARY IN MAY AND I THINK THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS DELAY IT.

>> SAM GRESHAM IN NORTH CAROLINA THERE IS CONCERN THE SUPREME COURT DOWN THERE IS THE SUPREME COURT IS CONSIDERING THOSE MAPS.

BUT THIS WEEK THEY DID DELAY THE IT'S EARLIER THAN OURS THEY DID DELAY IT.

SHOULD THEY DELAY?

SHOULD THEY TAKE THEIR TIME AND GET IT RIGHT?

>> I THINK THEY NEED TO TAKE THEIR TIME AND GET IT RIGHT.

I THINK THE POINTS THAT WERE MADE JUST THEN IS CORRECT.

THE SUPREME COURT CAN -- IT'S PREFERENCE.

BUT ABOUT HOW THE LINES ARE DRAWN.

GENE MADE POINTS THAT ARE IMPORTANT.

THERE IS TOO MANY COUNTIES.

THEY CAN SAY THINGS LIKE THAT TOP DON'T FLIT $SPLIT THE COUNTIES TO THE DEGREE THAT YOU HAVE.

AND THIS IS THE BASE NUMBER WE ARE LOOKING FOR.

AND THEN THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEIR MAPS ACCORDING TO THAT.

SO WE ARE ANTICIPATING -- AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY WITH OUR PROCESS GENE IN THAT RESPECT.

BUT THERE ARE NEGOTIATIONS THEY WANT THE COMMISSION -- SOMEONE HAD TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT PUT THEM IN A BOX.

AND THE BOX UNTIL NOW.

>> WELL, ALL RIGHT, SAM, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS WITH THIS CASE, THIS AS YOU HOPED AND OTHER GROUPS HOPED, WOULDN'T THE BALLOT BEFORE THE NEXTRY DIRECTING THIS COMES OUT TEN YEARS FROM.

>> NOW.

>> WELL IT HASN'T WORKED OUT TO THE DEGREE THAT WE WANTED IT TO.

BUT LIKE IT PLAYED OUT EXACTLY THE WAY WE THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO PLAY OUT.

I'LL BE HONEST WITH YOU.

-- MEET THE DEADLINE.

A BALANCE MAP.

WE THOUGHT THEY WERE GETTING THEMSELVES A SUPERMAJORITY.

AS HAS BEEN SAID -- WE THOUGHT THEY WERE.

BUT WHAT THEY HAVE NOW IS SIX MONTHS WE'LL BE BACK FOR THE NEXT MAP.

AND THAT'S A ELECTION.

I DON'T THINK THEY ARE GOING TO DO THIS CONTINUALLY.

I CALL IT THE GROUND HOG SCENARIO.

AND THAT'S PART OF THE BOX.

THAT'S PART OF OUR TRAP >> THAT'S BECAUSE OF THE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT ARE FOR THESE MAPS THIS MAP AND THE CONGRESSIONAL MAP, THE MAP IN THE LAST FEW YEARS INSTEAD OF THE TEN YEARS AS MENTIONED EARLIER THE MAPS USUALLY LAST UNTIL THE NEXT CENSUS.

A RECORD $2.1 BILLION THIS YEAR.

THAT AND THAT DOESN'T COUNT ALL THE MONEY OHIOANS BET ON SPORTS.

THAT'S BECAUSE SPORTS BETTING REMAINS ILLEGAL IN OHIO BUT NOT MORE MUCH LONGER.

LIKE A GAMBLER RUSHING TO THE BETTING WINDOW WITH A HOT TIP ON THE HORSE, THE LAWMAKERS QUICKLY PASSED THE SPORTS BETTING BILL.

GOVERNOR DEWINE SAYS HE'LL SIGN IT.

IT WOULD LAW FOR 25 BIG LICENSES LIKELY HELD BY CASINOS AND SPORTS FRANCHISES THAT COULD INCLUDE ONLINE BETTING.

THE LAW WOULD ALLOW FOR SMALL ARE LICENSES IN CERTAIN BARS AND RESTAURANTS.

THE STATE WOULD COLLECT 10% OF THE PORTS BETTING PROFITS TO SPEND ON SCHOOLS AND GAMBLING PREVENTION AND EVEN SOME MONEY FOR VETERANS SERVICES.

GENE KREBS, ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO, CAN YOU IMAGINE THE LEGISLATURE BY SUPERMAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS VOTING OVERWHELMINGLY TO LEGALIZE SPORTS BETTING IN OHIO?

>> AND THAT STATEMENT, RAISES THE QUESTION AS TO WHY.

I HAVE A VERY GOOD SOURCE VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE INTERNAL WORKINGS OF THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.

AND THESE SOURCES INFORM ME THAT THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN TAKING A LOOK AT THE SPORTS GAMBLING LEGISLATION HERE FOR MANY, MANY MONTHS LOOKING AT IT WITH AN EYE ON HOW -- THE INTERIM -- AND I ALSO HAVE BEEN HEARING THIS RUMOR FROM SIX DIFFERENT -- AS I TALK TO FOLKS IN DOWNTOWN COLUMBUS, SAYING -- THIS THING HAS BEEN TOUCHED.

WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S TRUE OR NOT, WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS HYPERBOLE OUT THERE, I HAVE NO IDEA.

BUT IF IT IS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE THINGS IN MARCH.

>>.

IF THIS BILL -- IF IT DOESN'T CREATE THE MONOPOLY CASINO IF IT DOES SPREAD A LITTLE BIT IN CASINOS, MEGAGAMBLING SPORTS FRANCHISES SPORTS BETTING OPERATIONS THERE ARE ALSO SMALLER BASTES BOWLING ALLEYS, BARS RESTAURANTS.

>> TYPE B TYPE A TYPE C. EACH ONE IS A DIFFERENT SET BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE AFTER ARE THE TYPE A's THEY'RE GOING TO THE CASINOS, THE RACINOS, THE SPORTS TEAMS.

THESE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE WASTE CALLED A SKIN.

THAT MEANS THAT THE DIGITAL APP IT'S THE ONE SITE IT'S THE WAY MOST PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GOING TO BET ON THE GAMES.

AND SO THAT WILL BE ONLY FOR THE TYPE A LICENSES.

SO THE TYPE C LIKE THE BOWLING ALYS WILL BE A KIOSK ALLOWING TO YOU MAKE SIMPLE BETS ON THE OVER/UNDER SIDELINE.

>> AND THOSE RESTAURANTS REALLY WANTED THAT PART OF THE ACTION.

-- THE WISCONSIN.

>> THE COMMUNITY ON THE BILL SAYS SAID THIS WAS A THING TO DO -- >> YEAH, THEY'VE FWN TALKING ABOUT SINCE 2018 AND THE U.S. SUPREME COURT LEGALIZED SPORTS BETTING IN EVERY STATE EXCEPT FOR NEVADA.

THE CASINOS -- THE -- ARE WE GOING TO SEE A HUGE CHANGE IN THE STATE THAT WE CAN NOT -- >> WELL, THE FIRST QUESTION, GAMBLING IS THE -- CORRUPTION.

AND ORGANIZED CRIMES OR CORPORATIONS TRYING TO GET IN.

THE ANALYSIS SOMETHING LIKE THAT FALLS OUT HERE.

WE ONLY -- THE ONLY ASPECT OF THE GAMBLING I CAN IN THE STATE OF OHIO I WASN'T CLEAR CAN THEY BET ON OHIO STATE?

>> YES.

>> CAN THEY BET ON OHIO STATE?

>> THAT'S A PROBLEM.

KIDS CAN MAKE MONEY OFF COURT.

IF YOU CLEAR A SITUATION WHERE PEOPLE CAN BET ON GAMES AND HOPEFULLY THE PLAYERS GET THEM THE STORY SCORE THEY WANT I THINK THAT'S DANGEROUS.

>> THERE IS A -- >> ALL RIGHT.

AND WE OPEN UP WITH THE FIRST THINGS OF GAMBLING WHICH IS THE CASINOS.

THE BETTING I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE BECAUSE THEY OPEN THE GATES.

AND YOU ASKED GENE THE QUESTION REPUBLICANS ARE JUST AS CORRUPT AS DEMOCRATS AND NOT AS PRISTINE AS THEY USED TO BE.

>> GENE, OHIO THEY SAY THE CASINOS AND PEOPLE ARE -- THE BOOKINGS, WHY NOT -- TRY TO AVOID SOME CORRUPTION.

AND ALSO GAIN 10% OF THE PROFITS IN TAX MONEY.

>> YEAH, I UNDERSTAND ALL THE ARGUMENTS.

IT'S JUST THAT YOU LOOK AT OHIO WE HAVE 200,000 ADDICTS IN THE STATE OF OHIO, 40% OR MORE WEEKLY ON PRODUCTS.

YOU DON'T -- THERE IS NOT ENOUGH WORK BEING DONE.

MOST OF THEM FALL TO THE LOW RESOURCE CATEGORY.

AND ONCE AGAIN, BASICALLY EVERYONE SAYS THAT TAX ON PEOPLE -- BECAUSE THE HOUSES ONLY -- WITH YOU I UNDERSTAND THAT -- DO SOMETHING -- BUT WITH THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SLOSHING AROUND AROUND THIS AND THE OPENNESS OF THIS, THIS IS GOING TO NEED REALLY STRICT CONTROLS ON THIS.

AND MUCH TO MY SURPRISE -- MUCH TO MY SURPRISE, WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD IS THAT WE SPENT TOO MUCH MONEY SLOSHING AROUND ON THIS.

>> THERE IS A DEADLINE THEY PUT A DEADLINE ON THIS.

I THINK PERHAPS THE ADVOCATES FOR IN SAW HOW LONG IT'S TAKING FOR THE MEDICAL MARIJUANA SYSTEM TO GET OUT THERE AND GET GOING.

WAS THAT THE REASON THAT -- THE 2023 DEADLINE ON THIS?

>> YEAH, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN DO IT.

THE THING THEY CAN GET IT DONE BEFORE THE FALL SEASON NEXT YEAR.

BUT I THINK THEY WANTED TO GIVE THE CASINO CONTROL COMMISSION TIME TO MAKE THE RULES.

AND ADAM MAILER ONE OF THE REPRESENT HE WAS ON THIS BILL SAID HE ALSO THINKS WE ARE COME BACK IN SEVEN OR EIGHT MONTHS FOR A CLEANUP BILL ONCE WE GET INTO THE RULE MAKING PROCESS.

HE SAID WE'LL HAVE TO COME BACK AND LAWMAKERS HAVE TO MAKE SMALL CHANGES TO THE LEGISLATION AND THEY WANTED TO GIVE THEMSELVES TIME TO DO THAT >> INTERESTING.

OKAY.

NEXT COPPIC.

OHIO HOSPITALS ARE FILLING ONE COVID PATIENTS.

STATE HEALTH OFFICIALS SAY MORE THAN 4,000 PEOPLE IN OHIO ARE HOSPITALIZED WITH COVID-19.

BUT THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF HOSPITALIZATIONS IN ABOUT A YEAR.

THE VAST MAJORITY OF COVID PATIENTS WHO END UP IN THE HOSPITAL ARE UNVACCINATED.

THE PUSH TO MANDATE PEOPLE TO GET VACCINATED SEEMS TO BE SOFTENING.

PRESIDENT BIDEN'S VACCINE MANDATE FOR LARGER COMPANIES IS IT IS SFAULD IN COURT.

LARGE EMPLOYERS IN CENTRAL OHIO WHO ONCE MANDATED VACCINES ARE NOW PUTTING OFF ENFORCEMENT.

ANNA STAVER HOW CONCERNED ARE HEALTH OFFICIALS THAT HOSPITALS HAVE TO CUT BACK ON NON-ESSENTIAL SERVICES IF MORE AND MORE VOCATION GET SICK WITH COVID AND HAVE TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL?

>> YEAH, A DR. SAYS HE IS CONCERNED ABOUT THE NORTHERN PART OF THE STATE THAT SEEMS TO BE WHERE THE OUTBREAKS ARE MORE INTENSE AND WHERE WE SEE LOWER VACCINATION RATES.

BECAUSE AS WE HE CONTINUES TO SAY THIS IS LARGELY DRIVEN BY UNVACCINATED OHIOANS.

IN THE COUNTIES AND REGIONS WHERE WE SEE THE VACCINATION RATE DIP BELOW OURS WHICH IS 68% OF OHIOANS HAD THE FIRST DOSE.

AND SO?

THE COUNTIES WE SEE THAT GETTING BELOW THERE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE HOSPITALS FILLING TO CAPACITY.

>> GENE KREBS, THE FAR WESTERN OHIO COUNTIES WITH LOW VACCINATION RATES, OMICRON IS OUT THERE.

IT'S FOLKS VACCINATED, CHANGING AT ALL, AS FAR AS VACCINATIONS GO?

>> VERY, VERY -- WE'VE HAD A LARGE NUMBER OF CONVERSATIONS THIS WEEK WITH A LOT OF MY FELLOW RURAL OHIOANS THROUGH THERE.

AND THEY ARE VERY RESISTANT TO THE IDEA OF A VACCINE AND AND THEY SAY -- THEY SAY -- BUT I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S A CLASSIC TO THE -- VACCINE.

HE KNOW DON'T WANT TO DO THAT.

WHAT I'VE BEEN TOLD -- TELL ME MORE.

FINALLY COME OUT AND SAID THOSE ARE NOT -- THEY HAVE ENOUGH CONTROL OF THEIR LIVES.

THEY FEEL BOUND BY THE OUTSOURCING, MANUFACTURING THEY FEEL BATH BOTHERED BY OUR NATION.

THEY FEEL THAT THEIR VOICES ARE NOT BEING HEARD.

AND THEY THINK THIS IS THE ONE PLACE THEY CAN GET SOME CONTROL AND SOME AGENCY.

>> SO GRESHAM, MOST PEOPLE WEARING MASKS.

THERE ARE QUITE A FEW THAT ARE NOT.

I DON'T GET THE SENSE IN GOING TO FORCE THEM THAT MUCH.

THE MASK MANDATE SAM GRESHAM.

>> THE GOVERNOR, THE DEFERRED TO HEALTH OFFICIALS IN THE BRIEFINGS.

HE -- WE HAVE SOME -- NEW YORK IS IMPOSING A MASK MANDATE.

I DON'T SEE OHIO DOING THAT, DO YOU?

>> NO, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

I THINK THE KNICKS OF THE LEGISLATURE AND THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THEY NOW HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO OVERRIDE ANY STATEWIDE HEALTH ORDER HE ISSUES.

AND THERE IS IN LARGE PART OF HIS PARTY WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE IN MANDATING MASKS.

HE HAS REGULATIONS ABOUT MANDATING VACCINATIONS.

I THINK IF THE GOVERNOR EXPECTS ANYTHING THAT THAT DIRECTION -- EAST BEEN EXPLICIT ABOUT IT DEWINE SAID I WOULD HAVE MANDATED MASKS FOR SCHOOLS IF NOT FOR THE STATE LEGISLATURE.

>> I MEAN, I THINK IT'S BECOME RIDICULOUS, THIS POLITICAL CAPITALISM THAT THE REPUBLICANS HAVE OF EATING THEIR OWN.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A HEALTH ISSUE HERE.

700,000 PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY DIED BECAUSE OF POLITICS.

ONE MORE THING.

I -- I THINK IT'S UNPATRIOTIC WITH TRYING TO NOT HELP YOUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS SURVIVE.

AND CALL THEM WHAT THEY ARE.

UNPATRIOTIC.

>> DO YOU THINK EMPLOYEES SHOULD BE FIRED IF THEY DON'T GET THE VACCINE, THE IF THEY PUT OFF THE -- TO JOE BIDEN'S MEMO?

>> I BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DON'T GET CONTROL OF IT THIS IS OMICRON NOW.

WE HAVE SOMETHING ELSE.

WE ARE GOING TO KEEP CHANGING AND -- AND NOW WE HAVE TO TAKE A BOOSTER BECAUSE WE ARE NOT SURE.

SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE.

SOMEBODY HAS TO CREATE THE RUMORS AND LET PEOPLE FOR THE FOLLOW THEM >> GENE, AMONG OHIOANS WITH BE THEY ARE SKEPTICAL ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT MANDATE.

>> YEAH, AND I THINK TAKE A STEP BACK AND NOT, YOU KNOW, PUT TOO MANY LABELS SAYING THIS GROUP OR THAT GROUP.

I BELIEVE WE SHARE A -- SOLUTIONS, VACCINE ATTITUDES, YES, REAL OHIOANS WITH, BUT ALSO, AFRICAN AMERICAN MEN ARE ALSO HESS TAN TO GET THE VACCINE.

I THINK WE NEED TO ONCE AGAIN AND SIT DOWN WITH FOLKS AND GO, WELL WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT?

TELL ME MORE.

AND JUST KEEP DRILLING DOWN UNTIL WE START TO GET TO THE REASONS WHY.

AND THEN WHAT CAN WE DO TO WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE COUNTRY OF PORTUGAL WHICH HAS A 93% VACCINATION RATE.

THE QUESTION IS WHY AND HOW DID THEY DO THAT?

>> LOOK AT THAT.

ALL RIGHT.

THAT'S OUR FRIDAY AFTERNOON COLUMNS BUS HOUSE SENIOR RECORD 186 MURDERS THIS YEAR.

AND TWO OF THE LATEST VICTIMS AMPLIFIED CALLS TO STOP THE VIOLENCE.

6-YEAR-OLD LONDYNN WAHL KNEEL AND HER 9-YEAR-OLD BROTHER DEMETRIUS WERE SHOT TO DEATH AMBUSHED BY TWO SHOOTERS FIRING IN A PARKED COLD WAR IN SOUTHEAST COLUMBUS NP POLICE AND CITY OFFICIALS ONCE AGAIN CALLED FOR AN END TO THE VIOLENCE AND FOR ANYONE WITH INFORMATION TO COME FORWARD.

SO GRESHAM, THIS IS THAT MUCH WORSE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE SOLUTION?

IS THERE A SOLUTION.

>> MY GOD I HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS.

TWEPT YEAR, THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME WE'VE HAD THESE SERIES OF KILLINGS OR SHOOTINGS.

WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING THEY ARE TRULY REVELLEABLE TO THE PANDEMIC LOCKED IN.

I SAY THAT MAY BE A PORTION OF IT.

I THINK THINK OF OTHER THINGS THAT DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH POVERTY.

LACK OF PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY.

UNEMPLOYMENT PB INEQUITIES, EDUCATION.

MARGINALIZATION, POOR GOVERNMENT, CORRUPT PUBLIC OFFICIALS AND CORRUPT COPS.

NOBODY IN COLUMBUS NOBODY WANTS TO TAKE IT.

BUT WE CAN'T HAVE ALL THE DRUGS AND GUNS COMING THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY AND NO POLITICIANS ARE GETTING THEIR PALMS GREASED OR ALL THIS DOPE.

IT A LOT OF OTHER THINGS.

I THINK THERE ARE SOME ASSUMPTIONS.

BUT I'M NOT SURE -- THE PROCESS.

>> THIS WEEK, FEDERAL MONEY OVER $250 MILLION FOR POLICE AGENCIES AND FIRST RESPONDERS.

$175 MILLION OF THAT WOULD GO DIRECTLY TO COMMUNITIES, HIGH-CRIME COMMUNITIES TO TRY TO PREVENT AND SOLVE CRIMES.

THE GOVERNMENT -- IT'S NOT UNFUNDING LET POLICE SUPERFUNDING THE POLICE.

>> YEAH GEETD.

YEAH, SO THIS IS SOME OF THE FEDERAL DOLLARS COME IN, THE BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT OHIO IS GETTING FROM FROM.

AND HE DECIDED TO GIVE OUT IN PART FOR SOME COVID PROTECTIONS, ADDITIONAL MASKS AND SANITIZER AND ALL THE THINGS YOU NEED INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE ON A REGULAR BASIS.

BUT A LARGE PART IS TRYING TO HANDLE SOME OF THE RISE IN VIOLENCE.

I DON'T KNOW -- YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES YOU SORT OF WONDER IF SOLVED THE PROBLEM.

BUT ALSO A LOT OF SMALLER EVEN RURAL COMMUNITIES THAT ARE STRUGGLING WITH BUDGETS.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE MONEY HURTS.

>> SAM, MORE MONEY FOR COPS -- >> IS THIS THE SOLUTION?

>> I DON'T THINK THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM.

I THINK THE MOST EFFECTIVE PROBLEM SOLVES THE PROBLEM AND DOES TWO THINGS.

INTENSIFIES THE POLICE ABILITY TO PUT PEOPLE IN JAIL.

AND GETS PEOPLE OPTIONS.

THAT IS THE GET THE JOB, GET JUROR YOUR EDUCATION AND GET EMPLOYED.

ALL -- AND MY AGENDA ZBLOOSH.

>> WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

HOW DO YOU TAKE THIS HOW DO YOU SOLVE THIS RISING VIOLENT CRIME?

>> SO I THINK THAT IF YOU LOOK AT THE PREVIOUSLY -- A PROFFER OFFICER NAMED ANGEL TUCKER TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY RELATIONS.

AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE -- THE POLICING DOWN TO COMMUNITY LEADERS AND SAY TELL ME HOW YOU THINK -- WHY DO YOU THINK THAT?

WHAT IS GOING ON IN YOUR COMMUNITY?

WE NEED TO BUILD KNOWS RELATIONSHIPS.

AND I THINK THAT WE SHOULD GET BACK AND LOOK AT THAT OFFICER ANGEL TUCKER YOU GET GOOD ADVICE.

>> THE THE TRUST IS LACKING THERE NOW.

LET'S GET TO THE OFF THE RIDE FINAL PARTING SHOTS GENE KREBS YOU'RE FIRST >> SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SPORTS GAMBLING OHIO CAN NOW BET ON MICHIGAN WHICH HAD ME THINKING BUT THIS OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY MICHIGAN RIVALRY IS JUST NOW BEING OUT OF HAND.

THE AMOUNT OF SOCIAL MEDIA THIS FALL AND I'VE BEEN APPALLED AT THE AMOUNT OF PURE HATRED.

WE NEED TO DIAL BACK TO NOTCHES AND THAT'S PART ON THE LEADERSHIP AND CALLING ON THE PRESIDENT OF THE OHIO STATE TO BEGIN TO INITIATE THAT PROCESS.

>> SAM GRESHAM FINAL THOUGHTS.

>> I UNDERSTAND TAKING THE APPROACH THAT THE PROBE INTO THIS.

THEY ARE GOING TO PAY POLITICALLY IN THIS COMMUNITY.

I'LL SAY THE AMOUNT OF A MONEY OR NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE.

>> AND STAVER YOUR FINAL THOUGHT.

>> THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO BE SIGNING A LOT OF BILLS NEXT WEEK AND ONE TO WATCH FOR IS ANOTHER ROUND OF CORONAVIRUS MONEY.

BUT HE IS BEING ASKED TO VETO SUN SECTION OF IT.

IT'S THE PAUSE OVER EDUCATION STANDARDS.

AND WE ARE WAITING TO SEE ESPECIALLY IF YOU TALK ABOUT THE BEST WAYS TO CURB LONG-TERM VIOLENCE IN CITIES IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE WHETHER THE GOVERNOR HOLDS ON OFF ON CHILD CARE CENTERS.

>>.

BUSINESSES START TO RAMP UP IN OHIO.

THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR ENDORSERS.

AMONG THOSE POPULAR -- OPERATION HERE IN OHIO.

THAT'S COLUMBUS ON THE CHECK US OUT ONLINE SEE EACH ETCHED EPISODE AT THE WEPTS WEBSITE WATCH THE SHOW AND WOSU.ORG FOR THE CREW AND I'M MIKE THOMPSON HAVE A GOOD WEEK.