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Supreme Court Abortion Ruling Inspires Activism
Season 17 Episode 47 | 26m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
The Supreme Court's overturning of abortion rights is making waves in Ohio and elsewhere.
The U.S. Supreme Court ruling that overturned 50 years of abortion rights continues to make waves across the country, including Ohio. This week on Columbus on the Record, guest host Ann Fisher and the panelists look at the impact the ruling had in politics and courts as of Ohio's abortion clinics is set to close.
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Supreme Court Abortion Ruling Inspires Activism
Season 17 Episode 47 | 26m 47sVideo has Closed Captions
The U.S. Supreme Court ruling that overturned 50 years of abortion rights continues to make waves across the country, including Ohio. This week on Columbus on the Record, guest host Ann Fisher and the panelists look at the impact the ruling had in politics and courts as of Ohio's abortion clinics is set to close.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> THE SUPREME COURT RULING THAT OVERTURNED 50 YEARS OFABORTION RIGHTS CONTINUES TOMAKE WAVES ACROSS THE COUNTRY,INCLUDING OHIO, IN POLITICS ANDTHE COURTS WHERE EVEN AS ONEABORTION CLINIC TWO CLOSE, ALAWYER SITE IS FILED TO RESTOREABORTION ACCESS IN THE BUCKEYESTATE.
WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THERECORD.
I AM ANN FISHER, SITTINGINFOR MIKE THOMAS THIS WEEK.
MIDTERM ELECTIONS ARE USUALLYBAD FOR THE PARTY.
THE ABORTION ISSUE HAS GIVENSOME REASON TO HOPE.
INCLUDING IN OHIO.
TARGET SMARTPOLLING FOUND THATOHIO MEN NOW REGISTERED OHIOMEN BY AN 11 POINT MARGIN INTHE TWO MONTHS AFTER THE JUNE 24DOBBS DECISION.
THE WOMEN ARE YOUNGER, THEY ARELIVING IN URBAN AREAS, HOWRELEVANT ARE THESE NUMBERSGOING FORWARD?
>> ITHINK THEY ARE RELEVANT.
WE HAVE TO TAKE THEM WITH ALITTLE BIT OF CAUTION.
YOU DO NOT HAVE TO DECLARE YOURGENDER ON THE REGISTRATIONFORM.
WE DO NOT HAVE PRECISE NUMBERS.
THIS ANALYSIS CERTAINLY MEANSTHATTHEY ARE GOING TO BEPUSHING THAT ISSUEAND THAT ISPROBABLY WHAT IS MOTIVATINGTHESE FOLKS.
IT WOULD SEEM TO MAKE A LOT OFSENSE.
>> GOING FORWARD, THE OHIOABORTION CLINIC LASTWEEK HIM ALAWSUIT AND THEY HAVE LOST TOTHE CURRENT BAN ONABORTIONAFTER CARDIACACTIVITY ISDETECTED.
I WONDER IF THOSE KINDS OF NEWSITEMS TRIGGER MORE GOINGFORWARD.
WEARE DEFINITELY, IF YOU AREPAYING ATTENTION, YOU RECOGNIZETHAT ABORTION RIGHTS ARENEARLYGONE IN THE STATE OF OHIO.
IF YOU CARE ABOUT THAT ISSUE,AND ACCESS TO THAT PROCEDURE,YOU MIGHT WANT TO SEE A CHANGEIN POLITICAL CONTROL OF OUR LAW.
>> GOING BACK, OVER TIME, ITHAS BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE WEHAVE HAD SOMETHING TO EXAMINEIN THIS WAY.
50 YEARS OF RIGHTS ARE GONE.
IT IS CREATING THIS NEWCONSTITUENCY.
BECAUSE OF THAT.
IT IS INTERESTING TO THINKABOUT.
>> I THINK THATPEOPLEPARTICULARLYRECENTLY AREDEMOCRAT VOTERS IN MY OPINION.
HOW MUCH THE DIFFERENCES GOINGTO MAKE HIM I DO NOT KNOW.
THAT NUMBER EQUATES TO ABOUT1%OF WHAT THEY EXPECT THE VOTE TOBE.
IN OHIO, IT HAS BEEN THE LASTCOUPLE OF TIMES ABOUT 80%FORREPUBLICANS.
I DO NOT THINK YOU WILL HAVETHAT BIG OF AN OUTCOME.
YOU SEE THE PUBLICITY, THIS ANDTHAT.
I CANNOT IMAGINE ANYBODYWHO ISTHINKING ABOUT VOTING WHO DOESNOT KNOW ABOUT THE ABORTIONISSUES.
IT HAS BEEN EVERY SINGLE DAY.
I DO NOT THINK THAT WHATHAPPENS IN DAYTON AND THECLINICS WILL HAVE ANY CHANGE.
>> DO YOU THINK IT ISA BUILDINGBLOCK PROCESS ATTHAT POINT?
>> I THINK IT IS AN ISSUE THATIS VERY CONCRETE.
EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT IT IS.
NOW THAT IT IS A RIGHT THAT HASBEEN SNATCHED AWAY FROM PEOPLE,IT IS A WAKE-UP CALL TO THOSETHAT SAY, WHAT HAPPENED?
DEMOCRATS AREGETTING THEBENEFIT OF THAT.
WE DO NOT HAVE TO EXPLAIN WHATAN ABORTION IS.
THE AVERAGE VOTER AND THEAVERAGE NON-VOTER ALREADY KNOWSWHAT IT IS.
NOW THAT WE SEE THIS EXCITEMENTAND ENERGY ACROSS WOMEN TOREGISTER TO VOTE, IS A BIGSIGNAL TO THE DEMOCRATS ANDREPUBLICANS THAT ARE TRYING TOBAN ABORTION.
AND THEY HAVE BEEN WAVING THEWHITE FLAG FOR A LONG TIME.
IT CAN BE TAKEN AWAY IF YOU DONOT VOTE.
PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WHATEVER.
NOW THAT IT HAS BEEN TAKENAWAY, THEY ARE TRYING TO VOTE.
WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS INNOVEMBER.
IT IS ENERGIZING FOR WOMENACROSS THE STATE WHO DO NOTIDENTIFY WITH EITHER PARTY.
>> I WAS TALKING TO AN ABORTIONPROVIDER LAST WEEK, SHE SAIDTHAT SHE STILL HAS PEOPLECOMING INTO OUR OFFICE THAT DONOT REALIZE THAT IT IS NOTLEGAL FOR ALL PEOPLE IN OHIO.
IT IS THAT COMPLETELYOUTTHERE?
>> THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OFFOCUS ON ME.
THIS IS A RESTRICTION THATBRINGS IT DOWN TO SIX WEEKSAFTER PREGNANCY.
THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLETHAT WERE SEEKINGABORTIONSWERE GOING TO BE SENT TOANOTHER STATE AT THIS POINT.
SO MUCH IS CHANGING IN THESURROUNDING STATES.
THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS THAT AREGOING TO BE TAKING EFFECT INSEPTEMBER.
MICHIGAN HAS GONE BACK ANDFORTH ON A FEW COURT DECISIONS.
THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSIONACROSS THE BOARD ABOUT WHAT ISACCESSIBLE.
IT IS A VERY FORESEEABLECONSEQUENCE OF THE SUPREMECOURT TURNING THIS INTO A STATE-BY-STATE DECISION.
>>THIS IS NOT A SCANDAL EVEN,THIS IS NOT SOMETHINGTHAT YOUHAVE TO TAKE APART FOR THEVOTERS.
I DO THINK THAT YOU ARE RIGHT.
WE HAVE NOT HAD AN ISSUE LIKETHAT IN OHIO FOR A LONG TIME.
WE HAVE HAD THESE VERYCOMPLICATED AND IN THE WEEDSTYPE OF ISSUES THAT THEDEMOCRATS HAVE NOT DONE A VERYGOOD JOB OF GRABBING ONTO INTHE PAST CYCLE.
IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEEIF IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE.
>> OKAY,THE BUMP FROM THE ORBRULING HAS NOTBEEN HANDED OVERTONAN WHALEY.
HE HASFALLEN BEHIND.
THE LATEST INDEPENDENTHADTOGO UP BY 16 POINTS.
HE JUST WON THEENDORSEMENTFROM DONALD TRUMP.
IF EITHER OF BEEN A NUMBER OFPOLLS THAT HAVE BEEN PUBLICIZED.
THERE IS ALSO APOLL FROM LAKERESEARCH THAT SAYS THAT HE ISUP.
THAT IS FROM REPUBLICANS.
I THINK, AGAIN, TO GO BACK TOABORTION, THIS IS ANOPPORTUNITY FOR NAN WHALEY TOCLIMB UP THE LADDER TO WIN THERACE.
IT WOULD BE AN UPHILL BATTLE.
AN UPHILL BATTLE TO BEATGOVERNOR DeWINE.
IN A PERFECT STORM, ALONG WITHDONALD TRUMP ENDORSING GOVERNORDeWINE.
HE HAS COME UP FOR A VERY LONGTIME, UPLOADED.
HE TRIES TOLEAN CENTER, RIGHT,EVEN THOUGHHE IS CLOSER TO THE FAR RIGHT.
THIS ENDORSEMENT IS ANOTHERBUMP FOR HIS CASE.
HE IS OUT OF TOUCH.
HE IS NOT THE FEATURE OF OHIO.
THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HER.
AGAIN, THE POLLING INDUSTRYISVERY CONFUSING AT TIMES.
MULTIPLE POLLS ARE SHOWINGMULTIPLE THINGS.
AGAIN, THE HIGH REGISTRATION ANEW REGISTRATION AMONG WOMENREGISTERING TO VOTE SAYS A LOT.
>> YOU MADE A POINT EARLIERTHAT IT IS A VERY SMALLPERCENTAGE AS FAR AS NEWREGISTRATIONS GO.
I AM WONDERING WHAT YOURTHOUGHTS ARE, EVENTHOUGH THEREHAVE BEEN THESE BUMS, WHAT AREYOUR THOUGHTS?
>> I THINK THATGOVERNOR DeWINEWILL WIN RATHER EASILY.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT HIMRAISING MONEY, WE LOOKEDAT THEMONEY THAT THEY HAD RAISEDGOING BACKTO TED.
>> THE GOVERNOR.
>> AND THEN OTHER THANFITZGERALD, WHO WAS KIND OF INAN ODD SITUATION, SHE ISSUBSTANTIALLY BELOW.
ALL OF THEM.
IF THE DEMOCRATS THINK THAT SHEIS GOING TO WIN THIS THING, SHEIS REALLY CLOSE.
I WOULD EXPECT A LOT MORE MONEYTO BE FLOWING HER WAY.
MAYBE THERE ARE REASONS FORTHAT THAT I AM UNAWARE OF.
I THINK SHE IS NOT GOING TO WINTHIS ELECTION.
>> BY THE SAME TOKEN, YOU SAYTHAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE MONEY TOWIN.
SPEAKING ABOUT THIS ABORTIONISSUE,THEREIS A LOT GOING ONACROSS THE COUNTRY, TO VOTEDEMOCRAT.
THE IDEA THAT NATIONAL GROUPSARE PUTTING UP ALL OVER,HOPEFULLY TO DISSUADE THEDOBBSDECISION INTO A REPUBLICAN CASEIN THE FALL.
MAYBE THE DEMOCRATS WILL DOBETTER THAN WE WOULDTRADITIONALLY THINK,IF THEYARE DOING THE JOB OF THE ENTIREREPUBLICAN PARTY,TRYINGTOMAKE THE CASE FOR HIS PARTY,UPSTANDING FOR DEMOCRACY ITSELF,THESE KIND OF MESSAGES CANRESONATE WITH OUR MONEY.
>> AS WE GET CLOSER,I THINK ITIS LIKELY THAT IT WILL TIGHTENUP.
IT CANNOT MAKE THAT MUCH OF ADIFFERENCE.
>>WE HAVE TESTED A POST DONALDTRUMP,THERE IS ONE THEORY THATTHEY ARE ONLY 20% OF THE PARTY.
THAT MEANS THAT THE REST OF THEREPUBLICANS, MAYBE THEYARE FORDeWINE.
I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OFFACTORS THERE.
>> SPEAKING OF THE TRUMPENDORSEMENT OF DeWINE, HOW DOYOU THINK THAT ROLLS OUT?
>> THAT IS AN INTERESTING ONE.
FORMER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMPDID NOT ENDORSEMIKE DeWINE.
AND THEN DECIDED TO ENDORSE TWOMONTHS BEFORE THE END OF THEELECTION.
MIKE DeWINE HAS SAID ALL ALONG,THAT HE WAS HAPPY TO HAVE THETRUMP ENDORSEMENT.
IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT HIMAND HIS CAMPAIGN EVER AND AFTERTO A POINT.
I HAVE NOT BEEN TO A TRUMPRALLY IN QUITE SOME TIME.
THERE WAS A INSTANCE WHERE HEWAS AT A RALLY AND ASKED PEOPLETO WEAR MASKS AND THERE WERESOME BOOS AND OPPOSITION.
I DO NOT THINK YOU CAN DESCRIBEMIKE DeWINE AS ANTI-TRUMPET BYANY STRETCH OF THEIMAGINATION.
HE IS NOT SAYING THATTHEELECTION WAS RIGGED OR ANYTHINGLIKE THAT.
>> I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISEDTHAT TRUMP ENDORSED.
AND THEN WHEN THE INDEPENDENTPOLLS CAME OUT SHOWING HIM 15POINTS AHEAD, THAT MADE METHINK, HE HAS TO GET BEHIND THEWINNER.
>> HE IS NOT CLOSE TO DeWINEAND DeWINE IS NOT CLOSE TOTRUMP.
BACK TO THE ELECTION AND THEDEMOCRATS, THEY ARE DOING THESAME THING.
WHAT ELSE IS THERE TO TALKABOUT?
THEY ARE TRYING TO HIDE THEINFLATION RATE, THE GAS PRICES,NATIONALLY WE ARE IN THE WORSTSHAPE THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN MANYYEARS.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING TO TALKABOUT?
THEY HAVE TO TALK ABOUTSOMETHING THAT WILL HELP ORTHEY ARE GOING TO IGNORE ALLTHIS OTHER STUFF IT IS GOING TOBE ABORTIONAND THAT TOPSEVERYTHING.
I DO NOT THINK IT WILL.
>> I THINK THERE ARE A NUMBEROF OPPORTUNITIES.
PRESIDENT BIDEN IS IN TOWNTODAY FOR A RIBBON-CUTTING.
THAT IS GOING TO CREATE A LOTOF JOBS IN OHIO.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT INTELINTEL YOUNG PEOPLE,YOU DO NOTHAVE TO FLEE THE STATE AND GOTO SILICON VALLEY TO GET A JOBINTEGRITY OF THOSEOPPORTUNITIES RIGHT HERE INOHIO.
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SCAMMEDBY FOR-PROFIT COLLEGES,PRESIDENT BIDEN AND THEDEMOCRATS HAVE HELPED TO USHERIN STUDENT LOAN DEBT, MAKINGSURE EVERYONE HAD THE SHOT FORIT,WE ARE INA SITUATION WITHTHE ECONOMY RIGHT NOW, WE AREIN A SITUATION WITH COVID-19WHICH IS VERY MUCH PRESENT.
>> OKAY.
WHENSTEVE DACKIN WAS A MEMBEROF THE STATE BOARD OFEDUCATION, HE LED THE SEARCHFOR A NEW STATESUPERINTENDENT, UNTIL HERESIGNED TO MAKE A PITCH FORTHE JOB HIMSELF.
AND HE GOT ITBUT RESIGNED AFEW WEEKS LATER WHEN QUESTIONEDABOUT THE ETHICS OF THE PROCESSEMERGED.
JESSIE BALMERT, THE BOARD HASMOVED AHEAD TO REPLACEDACKIN.
THERE ARE STILL QUESTIONS ABOUTWHETHER THE BOARD VIOLATEDSTATE ETHICS?
THERE IS ALSO QUESTIONS ABOUTTEXT MESSAGES.
>> THEY ARE TRYING TO GET DOWNTO THE BOTTOM OF HOW THIS ALLHAPPENED.
IT WAS A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.
DACKIN WAS IN CHARGE OF THESEARCH AND THEN RESIGNED.
HE GOT THE POSITIONOVER A MORECONSERVATIVE OPTION FOR LEADINGTHEK-12 EDUCATION.
AND THEN BEFORE HE GOT HISFIRST PAYCHECK, RESIGNED.
PART OF THE QUESTION IS, IS IFTHERE WAS ANY VIOLATIONS DURINGTHIS, WHETHER HEHELPED TODIRECT THE SURGEON THEN GOTINVOLVED HIMSELF,MAYBE HE WASPUT IN A POSITION WHERE HECOULD NOT APPLY FOR A WHOLEYEAR.
THE TEXT MESSAGES SHOWHOWDIFFERENT MEMBERS OF THE STATEBOARD OF EDUCATION ARE REACTINGAS IT IS BECOMING PUBLICTHROUGH THE MEDIA AND THROUGHCONVERSATIONS.
SOME OF THEM ARE SAYING THAT HEDID NOTHING WRONG.
HE WAS NOT AS INVOLVED AS WEMIGHT THINK.
I THINK HIS DECISION TO LEAVEBEFORE HE GOT THAT PAYCHECKINDICATE SOMETHING.
>>IT IS HAVING HIMGO FROMBEING HEAD OF THE SEARCHCOMMITTEE, TO BEING THE GUY WHOGETS THE JOB HIMSELF.
NEWLY IT DOES NOT PASS THESMELL TEST.
>> IT ISSAYING THAT THEY ARENOT SUPPOSED TO TAKE A JOBIFTHEY ARE THE ONE LEADING THESEARCH FOR IT.
>> THAT IS HOW I WOULD READ IT.
>> PEOPLE CAN READ IN THE SAMESENTENCE AS YOU KNOW.
>> IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE THAT ITMIGHT BE A CONCLUSION THAT HEWOULD ULTIMATELY MAKE.
>>THERE WAS TWO WEEKSBEFOREHE RESIGNED, THAT WILL CURE ALLOF THE PROBLEMS.
LET'S MOVE ON.
>>JESSE SAID THAT HE WAS ACHOICE OVER A MORE CONSERVATIVECANDIDATE FOR THAT JOB.
A LOT OF PEOPLE DO NOT PAYATTENTION TO THATAND IT ISRELEVANT TO THEIR EVERYDAYLIFE.
IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THATDOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE INPEOPLE'S EVERYDAY LIFE.
>> THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT.
IF YOU ASK ANY OHIOAN ITCROSSED THE STATE,AND YOULOOKED AT EVERYBODY'S RESUMEAND YOU DECIDE,I WANTTHIS JOBAND YOU GO FOR IT, IS THATOKAY?
I THINK THAT MOST WOULD SAY,THAT IS NOT OKAY.
THAT IS THE SITUATION WE HAVEHERE.
ANYTIME WE HAVE SOMEONE SERVINGIN PUBLIC OFFICE OR IN ANYPOSITION, TRANSPARENCY HAS TO BETHE CORNERSTONE OF THEM.
>> DO WE KNOW IF IT HAS CHANGEDTHE TRAJECTORY FOR THE NEXTBRITISH SUCCESSOR?
>> IT IS COMPLICATED.
THE PERSON WHO WAS IN THEINTERIM BEFORE STEVE DACKIN GOTTHIS JOB HAS BEEN LEADINGTHEIR EFFORTS.
BY ALL ACCOUNTS, HE IS A VERYCOMPETENT PERSON.
NOT SOMEBODY THAT THE BOARD HASEXPRESSLY CHOSEN TO FILL THISROLE.
IT IS COMPLICATEDIN THISCURRENT ENVIRONMENT TO PICKSOMEONE THAT PEOPLE ARE GOINGTO AGREE ON.
THERE HAS BEEN AN INTENSE FOCUSON EDUCATION POLICY.
IF WE ARE TALKING ABOUT HOW WESHOULD EDUCATE OR HOW WE SHOULDEDUCATE ON HEALTH.
THERE IS BEEN A FOCUS ON THISAND EDUCATION POLICY THAT WEDID NOT EAT VERY MUCH BEFORETHE PANDEMIC.
>> RIGHT.
I THINK THERE IS A SWEEPINGMOVEMENT IN EDUCATION ACROSSTHE COUNTRY.
IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD TO HAVEA COMPETENT AND PERMANENTLEADER FOR OUR SCHOOLS.
OKAY.
LET'S MOVE ON, THEY MAY SEEANUNUSUAL BUMP FROM THE ABORTIONISSUE.
THEY ARE STILL IN CHARGE FROMTHE GENERAL ASSEMBLY TO GO TOEVERY STATE ELECTED OFFICEEXCEPT FOR THE SUPREME COURT.
WHO SHOULD BE INCHARGE AT THEOHIO REPUBLICAN PARTY?
HE SAID THAT HE WILLCHALLENGEFOR THE TOP JOB.
THAT HAS BEEN PUT OFF UNTILJANUARY.
THERE IS A RISK HERE, IS ITINEVITABLE WHEN ONE PARTYCONTROLS SO MUCH, OR IS IT AMIRACLE IT HAS NOT HAPPENEDBEFORE, OR SOMETHING ELSE GOINGON YOUR?
>> IT SEEMS THAT IN THISDAYAND AGE THERE IS --ABOUTEVERYTHING.
>> WHEN I WENT TO LAW SCHOOL,ONE THING I LEARNED THERE ISTHAT REASONABLE PEOPLE CANDISAGREE.
THAT SEEMS TO BE OUT IN THISCOUNTRY.
YOUR ONE OR THE OTHER.
THIS REMINDS ME OF THEINNERPARTINGFIGHTING.
IT IS NOT THAT BAD, OF COURSE.
WE ARE ACTING LIKE THEDEMOCRATIC PARTY.
THERE IS ALWAYS BEEN FIGHTINGAMONGST EACH OTHER.
YEAH.
NOW THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOINGTHE SAME THING.
IT DOES NOT DO THEM ANY GOOD.
I'M SURE THAT DEMOCRATS AREHAPPY TO SEE IT.
DO I THINK IT WILL HAVE ANYEFFECT IN THE NOVEMBERELECTION?
I DO NOT.
AT LEAST IT WILL NOT CHANGE WHOTHE WINNERS AND LOSERS ARE, YOUWILL CHANGE THE VOTE.
I DO NOT THINK YOU WILL BEDECIDING FACTOR AT ALL.
>>IN SOMEWAYS, PARTICULARLYAMONG REPUBLICANS, THAT ISHAPPENING NATIONALLY.
YOU HAVE A GROUP OF REPUBLICANSTHAT ARE BACKING DONALD TRUMPAND EVERYTHING HE SAYS AND DOES.
WE ARE SEEING REPUBLICANS FLEEFROM THAT.
WATCHING THE VARIOUSLAWSUITS AND CHARGES THAT HE ISFACING AND THE PROBLEMS HE ISHAVING.
WHEN HE IS RUNNING POSSIBLYAGAINST BIDEN.
HE IS A VERY DIVISIVE FIGUREAND IS DIVIDING THE PARTY HEREIN OHIO TOO.
THERE ARE OTHER THINGS GOING ONTHERE.
I THINK THE DEMOCRATS AREDIVIDED IN SOME WAYS TO WITHTHE FAR LEFT PROGRESSING.
I DO THINK THAT THEY HAVEBEENCOMING TOGETHER AND DECIDING TOHOLD THEIR VOTE TOGETHER.
ON SOME OF THESE STATE POLICYBILLS.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE A LITTLEMORE FRACTURED THAN THEDEMOCRATS.
>> THE IDEA ABOUT THE GROUPBACKING DONALD TRUMP,JESSIEBALMERT, TODAY, TO PUT OFF THISISSUE OF WHO IS GOING TO BECHAIRMAN UNTIL JANUARY, IT WASCLEARLY INBOB PADUCHIK'SCORNER.
>> WAS AN INTERESTING CONTRACT.
THE NATIONAL LEADERS ARE THERETO CELEBRATE THIS GIANT SUCCESSIN OHIO.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE OFCOLUMBUS, YOU HAVE REPUBLICANLEADERS FIGHTING OVERFINANCESAND ENDORSEMENTS AND HOW THEPARTY SHOULD BE LED.
IN SOME REGARDS, IT IS CRAZY TOUSE WITH THE COUNTRY IN HALFAND THENEXPECT THAT THEPARTIES WILL NOT HAVE INTERNALTURMOIL OVER THAT.
THEY USED TO NOT BE THIS MESSYABOUT IT.
>> FOR SO MANY YEARS,BENNETTOUT OF CLEVELAND RAN THE PARTY.
NOW IT HAS BEEN A SERIES.
LET'S GO BACK.
MATT BORGES, AND THEN BEFOREIT, IT WAS BOB BENNETT.
THAT'S RIGHT.
THE DISTANT COVENANT --COUSINOF THE GOVERNOR.
WHATARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON HOWMUCH THIS MATTERS?
>> IT DOES MATTER.
>> I THINK THAT REPUBLICANS AREHAVING AN ISSUE WITH DONALDTRUMP ABSENT.
THE REALITY IS, THE COUNTRYANDTHE INFORMATION AGE, MOREPEOPLE HAVE MORE ACCESS TO MOREINFORMATION.
DEFINITELY ON THE REPUBLICANSIDE, IT IS GROWING.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR HOW WEGOVERN?
REPUBLICANS CONTROL EVERYTHINGIN THE STATE.
NOW YOU HAVE THIS BOOM OF,THEYWANT MORE LAWS PASSED AND THEYARE LOUDER.
THEY ALL PLATFORMS ON THEINTERNET.
I DO THINK THAT THE REPUBLICANSWILL CONTINUE TO SEE THIS INTHEIR PARTY UNTILDONALD TRUMPIS BACK ON THE TICKET ORSOMEBODY ELSE'S ON THE TICKETAND THEY ALL FALL IN LINE.
EVERY REPUBLICAN ACROSS THESTATE AND COUNTRY, REGARDLESSOF IF THEY WERE A MARTYR, THEYFELL IN LINE UNDER DONALDTRUMPAND HIS EXTREME AGENDA AND NOWTHEY HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.
>> I THINK SHE MAKES A GOODPOINT.
THERE IS NO QUESTION, AS JULIESAID, WHAT IAM SAYING IS THATIF TRUMP IS LEADING THEREPUBLICAN PARTY, I DO NOT LIKEMIKE DeWINE.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO VOTEFORWHALEY.
THEY ARE NOT GOING TO SWITCHPARTY.
IT IS A WITH THE PROGRESSIVESIN THE DEMOCRAT PARTY.
THEY MAY NOTSTAY AWAY FROMWHOEVER THE CANDIDATE IS.
I THINK IT AFFECTS THINGS BUT IDO NOT THINK IT AFFECTS THEFINAL OUTCOME.
>> SPEAKING OFFINAL, IT ISTIME FOR THE EIGHT OFF THERECORD PARTING SHOT, LET'SSTART WITH MICHAEL MILLER.
>> I THINK THE SUPREME COURTBETWEEN THE JUSTICE RULERINJUSTICE CANDIDATE IS GOING TOBE A REALLY INTERESTING ONE ANDPROBABLY FOR THE FIRST TIME INA LONG TIME, ALTHOUGH I KNOWTHE ONE A COUPLE YEARS AGO ISBIG, FOUR YEARS AGO.
I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE ARACE TO WATCH.
HE WILL BE VERY INTERESTING.
>> JULIE CARR SMYTH.
>> SECRETARY OF STATEROSE HASA VERY INTERESTING CANDIDATEBEFORE HIM, WHERE THEY AREFOLKS THAT HAVE NOT BEENFORMALLY ON THE BALLOTANDTHESE DECISIONS NEED TO BECOMING HERE FOR A WHILE.
>> INCLUDING NOT HAVINGALEGISLATIVE DEMOCRATON THEBALLOT FOR OHIO.
>> I THINK THAT IT CONTINUESTOBE AN ISSUE.
WE DID NOTTALK ABOUT RYAN, HOWHE IS OPPOSED AND IS ABSOLUTELYCRUSHING ITIN POLLING AND INFUNDRAISING.
I AM EXCITED FOR NOVEMBER TOSEE IF WE WILL HAVE ANOTHERDEMOCRAT JOIN SENATOR BROWN.
>> JESSIE BALMERT.
>>HE MADE A REAPPEARANCE THISWEEK WITH SOME OF THE CAMPAIGNFINANCE --WITH CRIMINALCHARGES.
>> THAT IS COLUMBUS ON THERECORD.
WE CONTINUE THE DISCUSSION ONFACEBOOK.
YOU CAN WATCH EVERY EPISODE ONDEMAND ON OUR WEBSITEOR ON THEPBS VIDEO APP.
I AM ANN FISHER, HAVE A GOODWEEK.

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