>> ALMOST 2 WEEKS AGO, 11 YEAR-OLD JADEN PERKINS LIFE WAS CUT SHORT.

HE AND HIS PREGNANT MOM ATTACKED BY HIS MOM'S LONGTIME EX-BOYFRIEND IN THEIR NORTH SIDE APARTMENT.

PERKINS DIED WHILE TRYING TO PROTECT HIS MOTHER.

OFFICIAL SAID NO.

THE MAN ACCUSED OF THE KILLING WHO WAS OUT ON PAROLE HAD A RECORD OF VIOLATING ORDERS OF PROTECTION.

HE HAS SINCE BEEN CHARGED WITH NUMEROUS FELONIES, INCLUDING FIRST DEGREE MURDER AND ATTEMPTED FIRST-DEGREE MURDER.

AND NOW AT LEAST ONE MEMBER OF THE ILLINOIS PRISONER REVIEW BOARD HAS RESIGNED IN CONNECTION WITH THE CASE.

JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THIS, OUR CALL, ALL MAYOR, THE CO-FOUNDER AND CO-DIRECTOR OF HEALING TO ACTION.

ALSO, ASHLEY OLSON, ASSOCIATE DIRECTOR OF A CENT JUSTICE.

THANKS TO EACH OF, YOU KNOW, CARLA, YOUR ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN WORKING ON THE GROUND IN THE COMMUNITY SINCE JAYDEN'S KILLING HAS TO BE HARD.

READ ABOUT HIM.

HE WAS A STRAIGHT, A STUDENT, GOOD DANCER AND EVIDENTLY ALMOST ALSO JUST LOVING AND BRAVE ENOUGH THAT ACCORDING TO AUTHORITIES, FOUGHT FOR HIS MOM DURING THIS ATTACK.

SO WHAT DOES THAT COMMUNITY WORK LOOK LIKE?

YEAH.

SO A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY HEALING TO ACTION.

OUR ORGANIZATION IS A GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION THAT A SURVIVOR LEAD.

>> AND OUR MISSION IS BUILD THE LEADERSHIP AND COLLECTIVE POWER OF THE SURVIVORS MOST IMPACTED.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE PROVIDE LEADERSHIP DEVELOPMENT FOR SURVIVORS, BUT ALSO SURVIVORS CARRY OUT GRASSROOTS CAMPAIGNS IN THEIR COMMUNITIES.

IN THIS INSTANCE, WE HAVE SURVIVOR LEADERS WHO ARE CONNECTED WITH THE ISSUE.

THERE'S MANY PEOPLE ON THE TEAM WHO ARE EFFECTED DIRECTLY.

AND SO WHAT THAT SUPPORT IT'S LOOKING LIKE IT'S REALLY CONNECTING WITH PARENTS IN THE COMMUNITY OFFERING HEALING, IDEAS AND BEING THOUGHT PARTNERSHIP AND REALLY SUPPORTING THE COMMUNITY AND CENTERING THE SURVIVOR IN INSTANCE.

AND HOPEFULLY I'M SURE GOING FORWARD HELPING JAYDEN'S MOTHER.

YES, KNOW THAT SHE WAS PREGNANT AND HAD ANOTHER CHILD AS WELL.

SO WORKING WITH THEM.

YES.

>> WELL, THAT'S THAT'S THE HOPE.

ANYWAY.

WE HOPE FOR HER RECOVERY.

NOW I'M ASHLEY IS SOMEBODY WHO WORKS WITH SURVIVORS.

WHAT IS YOUR REACTION HEARING THIS WHOLE SITUATION?

VARIOUS VIOLATIONS OF ORDERS OF PROTECTION?

YOU KNOW, IT IS VAST, TRAGIC AND UNFORTUNATELY NOT UNIQUE SITUATION.

YOU KNOW, WE SEE A LOT.

WITH OUR CLIENTS.

THIS THE CYCLE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND UNFORTUNATELY A CYCLE OF FAILING VICTIMS BOTH AND ENFORCING PROTECTION.

GRANTING ORDERS OF PROTECTION.

AND SO THAT.

UNFORTUNATE THAT IT IN THAT IS NOT UNIQUE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY WANT TO DRILL IN ON HERE BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A HORRIFYING SITUATION.

BUT >> SORT OF THE WHAT WHAT CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT.

SO LET'S ACTUALLY TO THAT END, LISTEN TO PART OF A PRESS CONFERENCE FROM MARCH.

15TH.

THAT'S WHEN THE CHARGES WERE ANNOUNCED AGAINST THE MAN WHO ALLEGEDLY KILLED PERKINS.

AND HERE IS WHAT COOK COUNTY STATE'S ATTORNEY KIM FOXX HAD TO SAY.

>> THERE SHOULD BE CONFIDENCE IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT WE WOULD HOPE THE INCIDENCES LIKE THIS FOR A YEAR.

HOW THIS IS HORRIFIC AND WE NEED TO DO AN EVALUATION PARTICULAR IN THIS CASE AND OTHERS TO ENSURE THAT THERE ARE NO GAPS IN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR A DANGEROUS OFFENDER TO COMMIT THE ACCIDENT AND AS YOU HEARD, THE SUPERINTENDENT SAY THAT THEIR QUESTIONS, NO QUESTIONS NEED TO BE EXAMINED IN TRUTHFULLY ANSWER SO THAT WE CAN PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM HAPPENING.

>> EVENTUALLY YOU JUST SAID THAT WHILE SOME OF THE CIRCUMSTANCES IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION MAY BE DIFFERENT, THAT THIS IS NOT ALL THAT RARE.

WHAT ARE THOSE GAPS IN THE SYSTEM THAT STATE'S ATTORNEY FOXX WAS REFERENCING?

NOW THE STAMP?

>> TO SOME OF THEM JUST CAPS GENERAL IN THE SYSTEM.

A LOT OF IT IS HAS TO DO WITH ENFORCEMENT >> AND IN THE STATE OF ILLINOIS, THERE ARE GREAT LAWS RELATED DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

THERE ARE GREAT THINGS THAT PROTECT SURVIVORS.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY'RE NOT FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH US ARE NOT THE SYSTEMS THAT ARE IN PLACE.

2.

HELP ENFORCE DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES THAT THEY NEED.

WHETHER THE STAFFING OR THE EDUCATION THAT.

INFORMATION ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

SO PROBABLY JUMP IN HERE.

WHAT SPECIFICALLY DOES THAT MEAN IN TERMS OF LACK OF ENFORCEMENT?

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR POLICE TO, YOU KNOW, GO AFTER SOMEBODY?

IS THE PRISONER REVIEW BOARD FOR ALLOWING SOMEBODY OUT ON PAROLE?

>> IS IT SYSTEMS THAT DON'T TALK TO ONE ANOTHER?

>> YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK WE ACTUALLY I AGREE THAT THE SYSTEM ACTUALLY RARELY WORKS IN A REPORT BY THE NETWORK IN 2022, ONLY 3% OF CALLS FROM SURVIVORS TO POLICE ACTUALLY RESULTED IN ARRESTS.

AND SO I THINK ALL OF US CAN AGREE THAT SURVIVORS DESERVE TO HAVE THE COMMUNITY, A RELIABLE COMMUNITY OF SUPPORT.

AND WHAT THAT REALLY MEANS IS THAT THIS ISSUE OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE IS SO INDIVIDUALIZED.

IT REALLY NEEDS TO BE SEEN AND INVESTED AND AS COMMUNITY VIOLENCE.

AND THERE'S ACTUALLY 2 MAIN PROBLEMS RIGHT NOW WITH THE WAY HOW THE SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY BEING SET UP.

I THINK THE FIRST IS RECOGNIZING THAT SURVIVORS DON'T HAVE DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO REALLY TALK TO ABOUT THIS BECAUSE IT IS HIGHLY INDIVIDUALIZED SAYING, OK, WELL, WE'RE GOING TO TREAT THIS IS DOMESTIC.

THAT JUST HAPPENS IN THE HOME.

THIS IS IN EFFECT, THE COMMUNITY AT LARGE.

THAT USUALLY WHAT YOU'RE HERE THAT DOESN'T CREATE MAKES IT FOR THE SURVIVOR TO DEAL WITH IT ON HER OWN OR HIS OWN AND ACTUALLY PUTS THE PRESSURE ON THEM TO FIX THE SITUATION.

I THINK OFF WHEN I WAS TAUGHT WHEN I'VE BEEN TALKING WITH THE PARENTS AND THE COMMUNITY, THEY'VE BEEN SAYING WE DON'T HAVE A WE HAD NO IDEA THAT SHE WAS GOING THROUGH THIS.

SHE WAS GOING THROUGH THIS ALONE.

AND THE SECOND PROBLEM IS THAT EVEN IF WHEN YOU SEE THE SYSTEM WORK, YOU OFTENTIMES SEE THE SYSTEM FAIL.

SO IN LAST LAST SUMMER, THERE WAS A CASE FOR GETTING AGO IN SILENCE UNFORTUNATELY WAS ALSO KILLED BY HER PARTNER.

AND I'M HER DAUGHTER WAS KILLED AFTER AN ORDER OF PROTECTION WAS ISSUED EVEN WHEN THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE THERE, YOU'RE STILL NOT THE SAFETY OF THE PERCENT.

AND WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT KIND OF SYSTEM OR WE RELY ON WHEN SOMEONE HAS BEEN INCARCERATED FOR 16 YEARS OR LONGER AND THEY'RE NOT REHABILITATED THEY'RE NOT REHABILITATED BACK TO SOCIETY.

>> SO THE IN THAT THIS SITUATION AND GOVERNOR HAS CALLED FOR AGAIN, AS WE NOTED, 2 MEMBERS OF THE PRISONER RELEASE REVIEW BOARD HAVE RESIGNED.

AT LEAST ONE OF THEM INDIRECTLY CONNECTION WITH THIS CASE.

IT APPEARS THE GOVERNOR CALLING FOR DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TRAINING FOR THOSE MEMBERS.

ASHLEY, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP?

YES, I MEAN, I THINK HEARD IT.

IT WOULDN'T HURT DOES IT SOLVE THE ISSUE COMPLETELY KNOW.

>> BUT I AT ALL LEVELS OF THE SYSTEMS WERE VICTIMS ARE INTERACTING WITH.

EDUCATION, ABOUT DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

WHAT IT IS, HOW IT PRESENTS ITSELF, HOW WE CAN PREVENT IT OR INTERVENE CAN ONLY HELP IT.

IT.

I THINK IT HAS TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH.

YOU KNOW WHAT CARLA MENTION ABOUT MAKING THIS IS A COMMUNITY ISSUE, BRINGING IT OUT INTO THE PUBLIC MORE WHERE THAT EDUCATION NOT FOR A BIT, BUT I WANT TO GET TO THE CAUSE.

THE GOVERNOR, THIS IS ALSO, OF COURSE, PUTTING PRESSURE ON THE SYSTEM FOR FIXES.

THIS IS TRAGIC INCIDENT THAT IS.

>> COULD LEAD TO CHANGE.

AND IN FACT, GOVERNOR SAYING THAT HE WOULD SUPPORT A PROPOSED LEGISLATION IF IT DOES SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT AND IS DIRECTING BOTH THE DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS AND THE PIER BE TO REVIEW THE CURRENT RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR CASES INVOLVING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE.

SO WHAT IS THE ISSUE HERE?

BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME REPORTING THAT MAY BE PRISONER REVIEW BOARD WASN'T AWARE OF THE SITUATION THAT THE THAT THE JUDGE DECIDED TO RELEASE THIS INDIVIDUAL DESPITE THESE VIOLATIONS.

AND THIS HAS TO DO WITH, YOU KNOW, BEING PRESUMED INNOCENT UNLESS THERE'S A PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE.

OTHERWISE.

YOU KNOW, I CAN SPEAK DIRECTLY OF COURSE, NOT THE CASE, BUT WHAT CAN BE DONE.

I YOU KNOW, AS WE MENTIONED, BRINGING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE TO A MORE PUBLIC FACING FRONT.

YOU KNOW, EDUCATING THE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THE SYSTEMS ARE FOLKS FROM OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND SO THEY THE SYSTEMS THAT WE LOVE THAT WE HAVE TO WORK AND THEY REFLECT OUR COMMUNITIES AND WE HAVE TO IN TERMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, YOU KNOW, BRING IT OUT AS A PUBLIC ISSUE.

AND CHANGE.

I THINK PUBLIC PERCEPTION.

ABOUT WHAT IT IS WHO CAN DEAL WITH YOU KNOW, WILL HELP IS.

I THINK ONE PART OF CHANGING AND UPDATING THE SYSTEM'S.

I DON'T THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE ANY SORT OF QUICK LEGISLATIVE FIX, BUT I THINK A LOT OF THESE THINGS KIND OF HAVE TO GO HAND IN HAND WITH EACH OTHER.

AND YOU WANT TO WEIGH IN HERE.

GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

I THINK ONE THING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO TO NOTE IS THAT THE SYSTEM ITSELF HAS BEEN BROKEN AND PUTTING LIKE A ANOTHER BAND-AID SOLUTION IS JUST NOT GOING TO ACTUALLY MAKE THE SYSTEM ACCESSIBLE.

>> AND SO WHAT WOULD WE WOULD PROPOSE IS REALLY ON THE SHORT TERM HAVING A COMMUNITY-BASED APPROACH WHERE YOU HAVE A NETWORK OF SUPPORT FOR THE SURVIVORS EMBEDDED IN THEIR COMMUNITIES SO THAT IF YOU HAVE A SURVIVE, IF YOU HAVE TO FIND HOUSING IMMEDIATELY, YOU CAN GO BECAUSE I WANT TO CALL AND SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS YOUR SITUATION.

THAT IS THE SORT OF WORK THAT YOUR ORGANIZATION DOES.

SO A PLACE TO START >> THE PRITZKER ADMINISTRATION, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FOLKS TO WIN, WE'VE GOT TO THANK YOU.

AND I'M SO SORRY AND GOOD WITH THE REST OF YOUR WORK.

NOW, UP NEXT, WHAT THE GOVERNOR IS PLANNING FOR 2 STATE CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES.

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