
Tamara Keith and Amy Walter on the politics of immigration
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Tamara Keith and Amy Walter on how immigration will affect the 2024 presidential election
NPR’s Tamara Keith and Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report with Amy Walter join Amna Nawaz to discuss the latest political news, including how immigration will affect the 2024 presidential election and Democratic concerns over President Biden's appeal to voters of color.
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Tamara Keith and Amy Walter on the politics of immigration
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NPR’s Tamara Keith and Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report with Amy Walter join Amna Nawaz to discuss the latest political news, including how immigration will affect the 2024 presidential election and Democratic concerns over President Biden's appeal to voters of color.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipTime for some analysis from our# Politics Monday team.
That is## Amy Walter of The Cook Political Report# With Amy Walter and Tamara Go od to see you both.
AMY WA TAMA saw the interview with Senator Mu Amy, what this bill proposes# is inc one of the biggest pieces of legislation for# immigration in three decades in Th e fact that the president was willing to go# as far as he was, what does that say to you?
AMY WALTER, The Cook Political Report: Well,# I think it says that Democrats know, including## the president, how problematic this issue is# for their party going into an What I find even more interesting, and# it's going to be a really interesting## test for the issue of immigration, is# next week.
There's a special electi in a congressional district.
This is# George Santos' seat on Long Island.
The issue of immigration, not surprisingly,# is playing a starring role with the Democrat## there taking a position that sounds very much# like Joe Biden, talking about being able to## have more border security, supporting this# plan that just was released by the Senate.
The Republican candidate and Republicans# in general attacking the plan, she has not## supported the plan, and attacking# the Democrats, including this one,## as being part of the open border party.
In other# words, by the time next Tuesday comes around,## and by Wednesday, when we have the results of# the election, we will have at least our first,## our very first test for whether this issue and# the way Democrats are talking about it, the way## Republicans are talking about it, which side# can claim some sort of political victory.
Again, it's a special, so we# can't draw too many conclusions,## but we will really get a sense# for whether or not, for example,## if Republicans lose, this strategy of just# blaming everything on Biden ma AMNA NAWAZ: Yes.
best shot at immigration reform.
They# have been cl TAMARA KEITH: Right.
does that blow back on them from their base?
TAMARA KEITH: Not from their base.
I don't thin I mean, there is this argument that# if this is the crisis they say it i that it has to be dealt with right now# -- and this is an argument that you're## hearing from people like James Lankford.# If it has to then why wait until after the election?
Why# wait until, in theory, Trump is in office?## And then you might still have a divided# government, and you might not get this.
So you're still -- you're -- at the best-case# scenario, you're pushing this a year out,## and worst-case scenario potentially way more# gridlock.
But Trump has made it abundantly## clear that he does not want this.
He was back# out on the air today saying it's terrible,## calling it amnesty, all of# these things that it isn't.
But it is a compromise.
It is not the bill# that former Presid sign.
It's not the bill that the speaker of the# House would author.
But it is something that,## in theory, if it actually could get to a# floor vote, which it may not get in the## Senate and it is even less likely to get in# the House, it is something that could pass.
It would be sort of a coalition of# moderates and national security hawks,## and it's a random coalition.
You would lose all# the people on the left and on the far right,## but it could potentially pass.
It may# not get a chance to have that audition.
AMNA NAWAZ: Speaking of those# national security hawks, Amy,## I want to ask you.
The biggest piece# of this bill is th Republicans largely remain# opposed to it in the House.
AMY WALTER: That's right.
AMY WALTER: No, because this debate# is really now about the border,## and that national security piece of it# is -- has been sort of separated out.
I mean, I think the fact# that the speaker is saying,## look, we're willing to do a# stand-alone bill on Israel (CROSSTALK) AMNA NAWAZ: Just on Israel.
AMY WALT that holding up funding for Ukraine# is a political problem for them or... TAMARA KEITH: With their base.
AM AMNA NAWAZ: So, meanwhile, the 2024 primary# season rolls on.
Presi first primary win after South Carolina voted# on Saturday.
Take a look at these results.
It is what you would call a decisive win,# 96 percent of the vote there to Marianne## Williamson' 2 percent to Dean Phillips'# just under 2 percent there as well.
Look, Amy, we know four years ago it# was Black voters there that really## resurrected his campaign.
Did they show up# with the same AMY WALTER: Obviously, turnout as down# considerably because it wasn't competitive## and it's very hard to get people excited to show# up to vote in a race that's not competitive.
I know why the Biden campaign wants to# point to that 96 percent number and to## the turnout in certain areas of the state# that have significant African American## population.
It's to sort of tamp down the# hand-wringing among many Democrats that the## campaign has a base problem, has a problem# especially with African American voters.
I don't think this is going to make that case,# because, as I said, it's not a real race.
It was## this -- a race against candidates who didn't# campaign.
Where it did make a case, though,## is against the idea that Dean Phillips has -- who# is one of those candidates there, has been raising## for a while now that voters want an alternative,# they want a younger alternative to Joe Biden.
Clearly, they do not, or, at the very least,# they do not want him to be that alternative.
AMNA NAWAZ: Tam, there's also concerns# more broadly about the Biden coalition,## right, after there was this# opinion headline in The Wall## Street Journal that called Dearborn,# Mi Biden issued a statement# about Islamophobia and hate,## and says we have to condemn it in all# fo the Muslim and Arab voters, the voters of# color, especially in a state like Michigan?
TAMARA KEITH: So, every voter matters,# especially in a state like Michigan or## Georgia or Wisconsin or Nevada, the key swing# states that are going to decide this election.
In Nevada, for instance, it was very narrowly# divided -- decided.
President Biden won by## very few votes, same in Georgia.
Michigan,# he actually won by a bit more.
But he had## these very narrow victories in several key states,# which means every little piece of margin matters.
And, yes, young voters are a challenge# that the Biden campaign is trying to## figure out how to address, but they# face all kinds of challenges.
Like,## young voters are not watching TV.
They're# not watching ads on cable.
They are no consuming their news in a way that# is easy to find them.
And so there## are a lot of barriers that they are facing that# they're trying to figure out how to deal with.
But, absolutely, they have a problem with# young voters.
They have a problem with## voters of color, and they're trying to work on it.
AMNA NAWAZ: Yes.
a couple of weeks ago, that was the exact point# he made was, one of these groups alone be enough to sink Biden's fortunes in the# state, because he has a big enough cushion.
But if you combine all three of those into one... AMNA NAWAZ: Yes.
(CROSSTALK) leans a little bit Democratic to absolute# toss-up to maybe even going AMNA NAWAZ: Tam, you mentioned# Nevada.
On the Republican side,## on Tuesday, there's going to be a# state-run presidenti days later, there's going to be a party-run# presidential caucus.
TAMARA KEITH: It's a mess, and it's confusing# to voters.
And many of them have already voted,## early-voted in this primary that will matter# zero for delegates in the Republican pri The caucus is where it's at in terms of# delegates, and Trump is largely unopposed there,## because Nikki Haley isn't on the primary# ballot.
It's a big mess.
But what is most## interesting to me, though, is, this# is one of those key swing states.
And## neither Trump nor Haley are really -- Haley# especially -- not spending any time there.
Trump hasn't spent a dollar on ads in# the state, and this is a state that is## going to matter later.
But, right now, it's# revealing that everything is kind of a mess.
AMNA NAWAZ: Tamara Keith, Amy# Walter, nice closing thought there.
(LAUGHTER) TAMARA KEITH: You're welcome.
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