♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ >> UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON" DETAILS OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ANNOUNCEMENT OF SWING TARIFFS ON ALL IMPORTS INTO THE UNITED STATES, REACTION TO TODAY'S ANNOUNCE.

ON TARIFFS FROM THE CANADA-ARIZONA BUSINESS COUNCIL AND HOW CURRENT EVENTS LIKE TODAY'S TARIFFS ANNOUNCEMENT ARE AFFECTING MENTAL HEALTH.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I AM TED SIMONS.

PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY AS EXPECTED, ANNOUNCED SWING NEW TARIFFS.

THE ACTIONS INCLUDE A 10% BASELINE TAX ON ALL IMPORTS FROM ALL COUNTRIES AND EVENING HIGHER TARIFF RAIDS RATES ON DOZENS OF NATIONS THAT RUN STRAIGHT SURPLUSES WITH THE U.S.

THE MOVE PUTS THE AVERAGE EFFECTIVE U.S.

TARIFF RATE AT ITS HIGHEST LEVEL SINCE 1872.

ALL GOOD ACCORDING TO THE PRESIDENT.

>> OUR COUNTRY AND ITS TAX PAYERS HAVE BEEN RIPPED OFF FOR MORE THAN 50 YEARS BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYMORE.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DAYS IN MY OPINION, IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

IT'S OUR DECLARATION OF ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE.

FOR YEARS HARD WORKING AMERICAN CITIZENS WERE FORCED TO SIT ON THE SIDELINES AS OTHER NATIONS GOT RICH AND POWERFUL, MUCH OF IT AT OUR EXPENSE.

NOW IT'S OUR TURN TO PROCESS.

>> THE PRESIDENT LABELED TODAY QUOTE, "LIBERATION DAY" AND SAID THE TARIFFS COULD RAISE OVER $6 TRILLION IN REVENUE.

SOME ECONOMY MINTS SAY IT CAN HIKE INFLATION BY MORE THAN 2%, CREATING A LOSS OF BUYING POWER PER HOUSEHOLD IT WASN'T 34 AND $4,200.

THAT HAS ONE CAR DEALER WORRIED >> THAT CAR COULD GO FROM $30,000 OSTENSIBLY, TO 37.5.

AND IT'S THAT QUICK.

AND THAT KIND OF CHANGE IN A PRICE MOVES THAT PAYMENT $175 A MORE.

AND OUR CUSTOMERS, THEY ARE MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE.

THEY JUST CAN'T AFFORD THAT KIND OF BUMP.

>> BUT WHEN IT COMES TO TARIFFS IN GENERAL, REPUBLICANS ON CAPITOL HILL SAY NO ONE REALLY KNOWS WHAT THE IMPACT WILL BE.

>> I UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PRESIDENT IS THINK DOING FROM.

AMERICA IS THE WEALTHIEST COUNTRY IN ALL OF HUMAN HISTORY.

OUR PEOPLE LIKE TO BUY STUFF.

THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING IF YOU ARE A BUSINESS IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY AND YOU WANT TO SALE TO AMERICA, MOVE YOUR BUSINESS HERE AND HIRE AMERICANS.

AND IN THE LONG RUN, HE'S RIGHT BUT AS I HAVE SAID REPEATEDLY IN THE LONG RUN, WE ALL DEAD, SHORT RUN MATTERS TOO.

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE IMPACT OF THESE TARIFFS IS GOING TO BE ON THE ECONOMY.

I HAVE HEARD EXPERTS, ECONOMISTS SAY IT WILL BE POSITIVE.

I HAVE HAD OTHER -- I HAVE HEARD OTHER ECONOMISTS IN WASHINGTON SAY IT WILL BE AN APOCALYPSE ASK WE'LL HAVE MUCH MORE ON FOR'S ANNOUNCEMENT IN TARIFFS IN A MOMENT.

ONE MORE HEADLINE, ARIZONA U.S.

SENATOR RUBÉN GALLEGO SAYS HE WILL BLOCK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S NOMINATIONS TO HEAD THE DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS TO PROTEST TRUMP'S EMPLOYEES CUTS AT THE VA. >> YOU ARE GOING TO BE CUTTING OFF VETERANS FROM SERVICES OR MAKING THEM WAIT LONGER AND LONGER FOR WHATEVER BENEFITS THEY DESERVE.

AND SO IT'S UNNECESSARY, WHERE DID THIS COME FROM THAT YOU NEEDED TO CUT, YOU KNOW, WAS THERE SOME KIND OF SIGNAL DEMAND THAT CAME FROM DAWNED TRUMP SAYING, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO CUT, YOU KNOW, -- YOU HAVE TO CUT 80,000.

WHY DID THAT NUMBER COME UP?

IF WE ARE TRYING TO DELIVER SERVICES, YOU KNOW, LETS FOCUS THAT FIRST, MINUS THESE ARBITRARY CUTS CAN DECIDED BY ELON MUSK OR DONALD TRUMP THEY ARE NOT BASED ON REALITY OF WHAT VETERANS NEED RIGHT NOW.

>> GALLEGO SAYS HE WILL DELAY THE TRUMP APPOINTMENTS BY USING A PROCEDURE MOVE THAT PREVENT A PARTICULAR MATTER FROM GETTING A FLOOR VOTE.

>> AS WE MENTIONED PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCED SWING NEW TARIFFS TO PROMOTE U.S. MANUFACTURING BUT IT RISKS A QUICK ECONOMIC DOWNTURN LED BY HIGHER PRICES AND THE UNCERTAINTY OF A TRADE WAR WITH OTHER COUNTRIES.

JOINING US NOW IS DEALING ROGERS FROM ASU W.P.

CAREY SCHOOL OF BUSINESS, GOOD OF IT YOU HELPING YOU MAKE SENSE OF EVERYTHING ANNOUNCED TODAY.

WHAT ARE YOUR INITIAL THOUGHTS?

>> IT MAKE SESSION, I DON'T THINK THEY MAKE SENSE.

THE TARIFFS ARE WORSE THAN WHAT PEOPLE WERE ANTICIPATED.

EXCEPT FOR -- I KNOW YOU ARE GOING IT TALK ABOUT CANADA AFTER ME.

FOR CANADA AND MEXICO, THEY AREN'T AS SEVERE.

SO YOU KNOW, A NEW 34% ON CHINA, 90% ON VIETNAM.

THESE ARE REALLY TOUGH.

AND IF THEY ARE REAL, WHICH THEY ARE GETTING TO SEEM MORE REAL EVERY DAY, ALTHOUGH ARE THEY REAL?

WE DON'T KNOW.

THIS COULD BE BAD.

>> YOU MENTIONED CHINA, 34%, THE EU20%, JAPAN 24%, INDIA, 26%.

THAT IS MORE THAN EXPECTED, RIGHT?

>> MUCH -- IT'S MUCH LARGER.

AND THERE MUST BE SOME MASTER PLAN THAT I AM NOT AWARE OF, BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVE 150 YEARS OF ECONOMIC THEORY THAT SHOWED TARIFFS ARE BAD.

AND WE KNOW AT SORT OF OPPOSITE WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID IN THE ROSE GARDEN TODAY WE NO THAT THE SMOOT HAWLEY TARIFFS IN THE 1930S HAD A LOT TO DO WITH BRINGING ON THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

AND THIS IDEA OF A SUDDEN SHOCK AND WE ARE GOING TO JACK UP THE PRICE IMMEDIATELY, AND EVERYBODY HAS TO PAY IT, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T MOVE PLANTS THAT FAST.

IT'S -- IT REALLY IS CRAZY.

>> WILL WE SEE THINGS LIKE SPECIAL AID TO FARMERS, LIKE WE DID DURING THE TRUMP TARIFFS BACK IN HIS FIRST TERM?

THESE SORTS OF CARVE OUTS AND CUT OUTS.

>> I THINK THEY'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO THAT.

THE 2018 TARIFFS THEY PUT ON, THERE WAS REALLY TONS OF CARVE OUTS.

AND WHILE IT DID HAVE A VERY NEGATIVE IMPACT ON CERTAIN INDUSTRIES, AND AMERICAN COMPANIES, YOU KNOW, OVERALL, THEY WEREN'T TOO BAD BECAUSE IF YOU ARE PAYING TARIFFS IN 2018, YOU DIDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU WERE DOING, BECAUSE THERE WERE WAYS FORGET OUT OF IT.

>> RIGHT.

RIGHT.

ARE MENTIONED, AGAIN, CHINA 34, JAPAN 24, INDIA 26, EU20.

AND WE ARE VERY CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS TO AMERICANS WHEN THESE TARIFFS GO INTO EFFECT.

WHAT HAPPENS TO THOSE COUNTRIES >> WELL, I WAS REALLY WORRY ABOUT MEXICO AND CANADA, BECAUSE THEY ARE SO TIED TO OUR ECONOMY AND IF I WAS, YOU KNOW, IN CHARGE IN EITHER ONE OF THOSE PLACES I WOULD BE THINKING WE NEED CUSTOMERS, OUR OLD CUSTOMER IS NOT RELIABLE.

>> YEAH.

>> THE THING HE SAID IN THE CLIP YOU JUST SHOWED ECONOMIC INDEPENDENCE, GOSH, WE REALLY HAVE BUILT THIS STRUCTURE OVER THE LAST 70 YEARS OF INTER DEPENDENCE AND WE ARE GOING TO TEAR IT DOWN IN, YOU KNOW, A YEAR OR A MORE, OR A FOUR-YEAR PRESIDENTIAL TERM IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> ONE OF HIS QUOTES IS THE COUNTRY HAS BEEN LOOTED, PILLAGED, RAPED, PLUNDERED BY OTHER NATIONS DOES HE HAVE A POINT?

>> NO.

I DON'T KNOW.

WHERE DOES EVERYBODY WANT TO LIVE?

THEY WANT TO LIVE HERE AND IT'S PARTLY BECAUSE WE MOVED THE MESSY STUFF OFF OUR BALANCE SHEET.

AND MOVE IT TO OTHER PLACES.

SHOULD WE BE SEWING CLOTHES YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL TIE ON, TED.

>> THANK YOU.

>> SHOULD WE BE SEWING TIES HERE IN THE U.S.?

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO DO THAT WHEN WE CAN MOVE THAT OUTSIDE THE UNITED STATES AND GET IT DONE FOR A FRACTION OF THE COST.

YOU DON'T WANT YOUR TIE TO COST 500 BUCKS.

>> NO, I REALLY, REALLY DON'T.

JOBS -- ANOTHER QUOTE.

JOBS AND FACTORIES WILL COME ROARING BACK INTO OUR COUNTRY.

DOES HE HAVE A POINT THERE?

>> WELL, I THINK PROBABLY THERE WILL BE SOME MOVEMENT.

BUT THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT SUPPLY CHAINS ARE COMPLEX.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF STUFF THAT GETS MANUFACTURED THAT WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO AND IT WILL TAKE US SEVERAL YEARS TO BRING BACK THAT CAPABILITY.

AND DO WE EVEN WANT TO?

DO WENT TO ASSEMBLE COMPUTERS HERE.

I DON'T THINK WE DO.

ASK.

>> HE SAYS IT WILL PAY DOWN OUR NATIONAL DEBT, WILL GENERATE TRILLIONS AND TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

>> WELL, WHO WILL PATHOS DOLLARS?

SO BASICALLY IF WE ARE GOING TO -- BECAUSE I THINK WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IS GET RID OF INCOME TAXES, AND GO BACK TO TARIFFS.

LIKE WE DID UP UNTIL 1913.

AND REALLY, THAT'S A TRADE WHERE YOU TRADING A TAX ON INCOME, WHERE PEOPLE THAT MAKE MORE INCOME HAVE TO PAY MORE FOR A CONSUMPTION TAX.

THAT'S WHAT A TARIFF REALLY IS.

AND A CONSUMPTION TAX, THE BURDEN WILL BE ON JUST REGULAR PEOPLE.

>> INTERESTING.

>> PEOPLE THAT VOTED FOR HIM.

>> YES.

HE ALSO TARGETED NONMONETARY BARRIERS.

THINGS LIKE CURRENCY MANIPULATION.

>> YEAH.

>> SUBSIDIES, THEFT THE INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY.

>> IN MY CLASSES WE CALL THOSE NON-TARIFF TRADE BARRIERS.

FOR INSTANCE, JAPAN, THEY DIDN'T WANT AMERICAN POPCORN TO COME IN TO JAPAN.

SO THEY WOULD DO THIS TEST TO SAY, YOU HAVE TO HAVE LESS THAN 2% THAT -- OF THE KERNELS THAT POM.

SO ALL THE POPCORN COMPANIES IN THE U.S. HAD NO CHANGE THAT.

CANADA STOPPING YO-YOS FROM COMING INTO CANADA, BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN JUST IN THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS, THOSE ARE A STRANGULATION HAZARD.

SO THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO SLOW DOWN STUFF YOU DON'T WANT.

>> SO HE GOT A BIT OF A POINT ON THAT ISSUE I, DOES HE NOT?

>> WELL, YEAH, WE -- IT WOULD BE NICE IF THEY WOULD STOP THOSE.

>> YES.

>> AND BUT WE HAVE THE SAME STUFF.

I MEAN, ON ETHANOL, WE DO THE SAME THING.

SO THAT WE ARE NOT GETTING DROWNED IN BRAZILIAN ETHANOL.

WE DO THAT AS WELL.

>> AND ALSO, YOU DON'T WANT TO THROW OUT THE BABY WITH THE BATH WATER AS FAR AS SOMETHING THAT BIG.

>> RATE.

>> SAID THAT EXPERTS WERE WRONG ABOUT AND A HALF THAT, CHINA AND THEY WERE WRONG ABOUT HIS FIRST TERM TARIFFS.

YOU ARE AN EXPERT ON THOSE FIRST TERM TARIFFS, DID YOU GET IT WRONG?

>> NO.

THEY DID HARM SEVERAL INDUSTRIES.

BUT THERE WERE SO MANY CARVE OUTS IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE TARIFFS WEREN'T REAL.

AND WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT THEY WERE NOT THAT BIG.

AND THERE WAS A BUMP AND IT DID -- YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN YOU REALLY SAW BUSINESS TO BUSINESS ACTIVITY SLOW IN 2018.

FEDEX MISSED THEIR EARNINGS I THINK YOU AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT BEFORE IN BOTH THE THIRD QUARTER OF 2018 AND THE FOURTH QUARTER BECAUSE THE BUSINESS TO BUSINESS SLOW DOWN.

THE CONSUMER STAYED HOT.

AND IN THIS CASE I THINK THE TARIFFS WILL HURT THE CONSUMER.

AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT HAS BEEN DRIVING OUR ECONOMY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS.

>> WITH THAT IN MIND, LAST QUESTION HERE WHAT, DO WE LOOK FOR?

WHAT WILL BE THE FIRST INDICATION?

PROVIDED THESE THINGS GO INTO EFFECT.

HE SIGNED THEM.

THEY ARE GOING TO HAPPEN I GUESS AT MIDNIGHT.

PROVIDED THEY GO INTO EFFECT AND THEY STAY IN EFFECT FOR A CONSIDERABLE PERIOD OF TIME.

WHAT DO WE LOOK FOR?

GOOD, BAD, AND ALL POINTS IN BETWEEN.

>> WELL, IT TAKES A WHILE FOR STUFF TO RIPPLE THROUGH THE SUPPLY CHAIN.

WE ARE ALREADY SEEING HIGHER COSTS DUE TO THE STEEL AND ALUMINUM TARIFFS THAT HAVE BEEN ON.

THE ONE OF THE THINGS WITH THE LOGISTICS MANAGERS INDEX WHICH YOU AND I OFTEN TALK ABOUT.

THE LAST TWO WEEKS IN FEBRUARY, DECEMBER, JANUARY, AND THE FIRST WOULD TWO WEEKS OF FEBRUARY WERE REALLY HOT.

THE LAST TWO WEEKS OF FEBRUARY WE ARE SEEING LOGISTICS ACTIVITY REALLY SLOWED DOWN.

AND FOR THE WHOLE MORE OF MARCH SO THAT'S BRAND-NEW, IT JUST CAME OUT ON TUESDAY.

BUT WE HAVE SEEN A DRAMATIC DECREASE IN PRICES FOR TRANSPORTATION AND WAREHOUSING.

>> INTERESTING.

ALL RIGHT, ALWAYS A PRESSURE HAVING YOU HERE, AND HELPING US, AGAIN, MAKE SENSE OF A LOT OF STUFF THAT IS -- >> SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THANKS FOR JOINING US, WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> GREAT TO BE WITH YOU.

>> THERE IS SOMETHING ABOUT BEING HUMAN THAT MAKES US WANT TO LEAVE OUR MARK.

HERE IN ARIZONA, THERE ARE PETROGLYPH SITES ALL OVER THE STATE.

TODAY WE'LL BE VISITING TWO SITES RIGHT NEAR THE VALLEY.

WE'LL VISIT A TRAIL WHERE THERE ARE HUNDREDS OF SCARFINGS AND WE'LL EXPLORE ANOTHER TRAIL WHERE IT CAN ONLY BE FOUND THROUGH A DEDICATED SEARCH AND A LITTLE BIT OF LUCK.

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>> FRIDAY NIGHT AT 8:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> CANADA AND MEXICO WERE LEFT OUT OF COUNTRY-SPECIFIC TARIFFS ANNOUNCED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY.

BUT CANADA IN PARTICULAR STILL FACES PREVIOUS TARIFF AS LONG WITH SPECIFIC ACTIONS AGAINST STEEL, ALUMINUM AND AUTOS.

WHAT DOES ALL OF THIS MEAN FOR ARIZONA'S HISTORICALLY STRONG RELATIONSHIP WITH CANADA DO THAT WE WELCOME GLENN WILLIAMSON THE FOUNDER AND CEO OF THE CANADA-ARIZONA BUSINESS COUNCIL.

GLENN ALWAYS A PRESSURE GOOD TO HAVE.

>> YOU GOOD TO BE HERE.

>> WHAT DID YOU MAKE OF WHAT HAPPENED TODAY?

>> FROM CHAOS COMES OPPORTUNITY I BELIEVE THIS IS ABOUT AS MUCH CHAOS THAT YOU CAN THROW INTO A POT AS POSSIBLE.

>> AND YOU ARE STOPPING THERE.

>> I AM.

>> DID IT FEEL LIKE YOU DODGED A BIT OF A BULLET FROM A CANADIAN PERSPECTIVE?

>> I THINK DODGING A BULLET IS NOT THE WORD THAT I WOULD USE, WHAT I AM WATCHING IS THE PREPARATION FOR RENEGOTIATION OF NAFTA.

>> INTERESTING.

ALL RIGHT.

BEFORE WE GET ANY FURTHER THE INTERCONNECTED NATURE OF CANADA AND U.S. AND CANADA AND ARIZONA IN PARTICULAR.

>> IT IS A KEY AREA.

IRONICALLY THE TRADE DISCUSSIONS GOING ON NATIONALLY BETWEEN CANADA AND THE UNITED STATES, ARE VERY, VERY IMPORTANT.

THE LARGEST COMPONENT OF THE CANADA-ARIZONA RELATIONSHIP IS MONEY AND INVESTMENT ALTERNATIVE INVESTMENT FROM CANADA, STATE OF ARIZONA.

BY THE WAY, NO TARIFFS.

IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT SERVICES FROM CANADA, COMING DOWN TO ARIZONA, NO TARIFFS.

SO THE TWO LARGEST THINGS ARE POSITIVE, THE THIRD LARGEST IS TOURISM, AND SNOWBIRDS.

NO TARIFFS.

>> YEAH, BUT WE'LL TALK ABOUT TOURISM AND SNOW BIRDS.

WINTER VISITORS TO ARIZONA BY ALL ACCOUNTS BY ALL REPORTS, FEWER TRIPS AND SOME ARE SAYING SIGNIFICANTLY FEWER TRIPS.

ACCURATE?

>> INACCURATE.

>> INACCURATE?

>> INACCURATE.

>> PLEASE.

>> LET ME EXPLAIN FOR YOU THE CANADIAN DIASPORA.

THE BORDER CROSSING ON THE NORTH WILL GET HIT THE HEART EVIDENCE BECAUSE THE CANADIANS GO BACK AND FORTH AND BACK AND FORTH.

THE FURTHER YOU FLY INTO THE UNITED STATES, THE EASIER IT IS TO STAY LONGER AND THE DECISION ARE MADE MORE.

WE HAVE NOT SEEN ANY ACCURATE DATA FROM ANY AIRLINE NOR WILL WE FOR TWO MONTHS.

EVERYTHING WE ARE WATCHING AND HEARING IS THINKING OUT LOUD FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T KNOW THE DATA YET.

IF YOU HAVE MOVE TO SNOWBIRDS, TED, SNOWBIRDS OWN HOUSES, CARS AND FURNITURE DOWN HERE.

THAT SNOWBIRD SEASON IS ENDING NEXT MORE ANYWAYS.

BY THE TIME THIS IS OVER IN THE NEXT FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS, WHICH I BELIEVE IT WILL BE, WE WILL SEE THAT CONTINUE AS IS.

>> THERE ARE REPORTS, THOUGH, AGAIN OF INCREASING NUMBERS OF CANADIANS WHO OWN HOMES IN ARIZONA AND THERE ARE QUITE A FEW AS YOU KNOW, THAT THEY ARE EITHER LOOKING TO SALE OR TRYING TO SALE S THAT ACCURATE?

>> WE HAVE SEEN NOTHING LIKE THAT.

AT ALL.

>> WHERE IS THIS COMING FROM THEN?

>> AND WE TALK WITH THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THESE PLACES AND CHAT WITH THEM AND WE DON'T HEAR FROM ENOUGH CANADIAN DIE AS POUR ON, JERK I THINK I WANT TO LEAVE.

UNLIKE TRUMP SAYING WE ARE GOING TO MAKE YOU THE 51ST STATE CREATING PAIN IN CANADA AND PRIDE OF CANADIAN INDEPENDENCE AND SOVEREIGNTY.

WHEN IT'S -20 DEGREES ARE GOING TO GO SOMEWHERE AND AMERICA IS STILL THE PLACE THEY COME TO AND ARIZONA IS ONE OF THOSE KEY PLACES.

>> IS THERE IMPACT OF REQUIRING REGISTRATION OF STAYING FOR 30 PLUS DAYS.

>> NO.

>> NO IMPACT THERE EITHER.

>> NO DIFFERENT THAN GOING TO AN OVERSEAS PLACE IN EUROPE OR AIR.

>> I AM SEEING A REPORT THAT ADVANCE BOOKING FLIGHTS FOR CANADIAN-U.S. FLIGHTS, ADVANCED BOOKINGS DOWN 70% YOU ARE NOT BUYING IT?

>> COMPLETELY INACCURATE.

THAT'S A FALLACY.

I HAVE SEEN THE SAME REPORTS.

WE VERIFIED WITH AIR CANADA, WE VA IRRELEVANT IDENTIFIED WITH WEST JET AND AIRPORTS BE THEY DON'T KNOW THAT.

THEY DON'T GET THE DATA FOR TWO MORE MONTHS.

>> YOU JUST SAID A WHILE BACK THAT YOU THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE OVER IN FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS.

>> CORRECT.

>> HOW SO?

>> I BELIEVE THIS IS ALL NEGOTIATIONS.

IF YOU READ THE ART OF THE DEAL, THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS WRITTEN, THIS IS ABOUT THROWING AS MUCH AGAINST THE WALL AS POSSIBLE AND THEN PICKING UP THE ONE PIECE THAT YOU WANT TO KNOW AND DO IN THAT WALL.

THE PROBLEM IS, IT CREATES ABSOLUTE TURMOIL TO TRY AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS.

SO WHEN HE GOES OUT AND SAYS I AM GOING TO PUT 25% TARIFF ON EVERYBODY, THAT SCARES EVERYBODY.

CANADA, MEXICO INCLUDED.

NOW, IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO THAT TO YOUR BEST FRIENDS, HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE SOUTH KOREA OR VIETNAM?

HE SETS THE TONE AND THEN ONCE THAT TONE IS SET, HE THEN GOES OUT AND DOES WHAT HE DID TODAY, EVERYBODY GOT TARIFFED.

CANADA AND MEXICO WERE NOT TALKED ABOUT OTHER THAN WE'LL GET TO THEM LATER.

>> YEAH, BUT I GUESS WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.

BUT WE'LL GET TO THEM LATER THERE IS STILL A TIME FRAME BETWEEN NOW AND LATER AND GOOD THINGS WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO ACHIEVE DURING THAT TIME FRAME.

IS IT WORTH IT?

>> AT MINIMUM IT'S A 10%.

AT MAXIMUM THE BIGGEST HIT A CANADA RIGHT NOW WILL BE THE AUTOMOTIVE INDUSTRY.

WHICH WAS ALWAYS A TARGET.

>> WITH THAT IN MIND, AND THIS IS MY LAST ONE, SORRY.

>> NO NO,.

>> THIS IS MY LAST QUESTION HERE.

WHY ARE WE HEARING SO MUCH FROM POLITICIANS IN CANADA, FROM FOLKS IN CANADA, WHO ARE LIVID AT WHAT'S GOING ON DOWN HERE?

I MEAN, THAT CAN'T BE IGNORED.

>> THE 51ST STATE IS PERSONAL TO CANADIANS.

THE REASON THE POLITICIANS ARE AS CONFUSED AS POSSIBLE IS BECAUSE CANADA IS STILL LEADERLESS.

TRUDEAU STEPPED DOWN AND CARNEY STEPPED IN AN ELECTION WAS CALLED.

THE TWO INCUMBENTS ARE TRYING TO BUILDUP THEIR HATRED OF THE UNITED STATES TO AS FAR -- AS FAR A PLACE AS THEY CAN TO GET THE POPULATION DIALED UP TO VOTE FOR ONE OR THE OTHER.

BASE BASED ON THAT CANADIANS ARE GETTING ENERGIZED.

AND YOU ALSO HAVE ALL OF PROVINCES NEGOTIATING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE SEPARATELY.

WHETHER IT'S ALBERTA OR ONTARIO IF YOU ARE SITTING IN THE WHITE HOUSE, YOU ARE LOOKING UP AT CANADA, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO MAKE A DECISION.

AND YOU'VE GOT THEIR BETWEEN PEOPLE COMING DOWN TO PAY ATTENTION TO YOU.

AND WHO KNOWS WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.

SO UNTIL A PRIME MINISTER IS ELECTED, THAT IS WHEN THE TRUE NEGOTIATIONS WILL START.

>> INTERESTING PERSPECTIVE.

GLENN WILLIAMSON CANADA-ARIZONA BUSINESS COUNCIL BY FAR THE MOST POSITIVE SPIN ON WHAT WE HAVE HAD TODAY GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> PLEASURE TO BE HERE, TED.

♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ ♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ >> I AM JEFF BENNETT, TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, PRESIDENT TRUMP ANNOUNCES A NEW ROUND OF TARIFFS ON TRADING PARTNERS AROUND THE WORLD.

THAT'S AT 6 ON ARIZONA PBS.

♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪ >> TARIFF ANNOUNCEMENTS, LIKE WHAT HAPPENED TODAY AND OTHER MAJOR CHANGES TO PUBLIC POLICY CAN TAKE A TOLL ON THE WELL BEING OF THOSE WHO ARE BOTH FOR AND AGAINST THE WHIP-LASH CHANGES WITH MORE ON THIS WE HAVE SHOW A LUIS MADERA FROM VALLEYWISE HEALTH.

GOOD TO HE SUE.

>> MICE TO BE HERE.

>> JUST THE ANXIETY OF PRESIDENTIAL TRANSITIONS THAT'S A FACTOR TOO, IS IT NOT?

>> YEAH, IT'S HUGE.

TRUMP 2.0 IS REAL AND A LOT OF FOLKS ARE AFRAID AND AND I WOULD BE AFRAID TOO.

>> FEAR OF THE UNKNOWN MOSTLY?

>> MOSTLY, YEAH.

>> UNCERTAINTY, UNPREDICTABILITY THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE SEEING AND HEARING ABOUT.

>> YEAH.

>> FACTORS?

>> WELL, I THINK WE HEAR -- IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS, I KNOW THIS IS A NEWS SHOW, BUT EVERYTHING YOU HEAR IS SO DIFFERENT AND CHAOTIC AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIEVE ANYMORE.

IT'S VERY CONFUSING FOR MOST PEOPLE.

>> AND IT'S ONE THING TO EXPERIENCE IT.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT IS IT ANOTHER THING TO EXPERIENCE IT AND HAVE IT JUST PERSISTENT DAY BY DAY BY DAY.

>> YEAH, DOOM SCROLLING IS A THING, WE ALL KIND OF DO IT.

>> YEAH.

>> AND I -- WHEN I WORK WITH MY CLIENTS I TALK ABOUT IT'S REALLY HELPFUL TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU LIKE AND MAKE SURE THAT IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS NOT NEWS RELATE FIRST DEGREE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S CONSUMING YOU IN THAT MOMENT.

>> I LIKE A GOOD STEAK BUT HAVE TERRIBLE ACID REFLUX I KNOW IF I EAT STEAK I HAVE TO TAKE MY PILLS.

I DO THE SAME DISCUSSION WITH MY CLIENTS WHEN IT COMES TO THE NEWS AND HEARING ALL THE STUMP STUFF.

>> THE HEALTH EFFECT FOR THOSE UNDER STRESS, WHAT DO YOU SEE?

>> ACID REFLUX.

>> THERE YOU GO.

>> ONE OF THE THINGS, HAIR LOSS, THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO MANY THINGS HAPPEN WHEN YOU ARE JUST STRESSED OUT ALL THE TIME.

>> JUST LIKE THE -- I WOULD IMAGINE THE INABILITY TO STAY FOCUSED THE INABILITY TO PAY ATTENTION.

>> THAT'S WHY I ENCOURAGE WHEN THEY START DOOM SCROLL TO GO PUT THE PHONE DOWN OR TURN OFF THE TV, NOT DURING THIS SEGMENT, BUT YOU KNOW, DO SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S DIFFERENCE.

>> EXPERIENCING JOY IN EVERY-DAY SITUATIONS.

>> YES.

>> THAT BECOMES MORE DIFFICULT WHEN YOU ARE UNDER STRESS.

>> YEAH.

IT'S REALLY YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS, TOO.

IF YOU ARE IN THE DOOM AND GLOOM ALL THE TIME YOU ARE LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ATTRACT THAT.

>> MAINTAINING RELATIONSHIPS.

>> HARD.

ESPECIALLY WITH PEOPLE THAT MIGHT HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS MAN YOU, RIGHT?

>> YEAH.

>> MOST OF THOSE AGAINST WHAT'S HAPPENING.

THOSE WHO ARE FOR PROBABLY ARE EXPERIENCING STRESS AS WELL.

>> YEAH.

>> BUT THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST WHAT'S HAPPENING MIGHT FEEL STICK, POWERLESS.

>> RIGHT.

>> THERE IS A LOT OF POWERLESSNESS GOING ON.

SEE WHAT YOU CAN HAVE CONTROL OVER, WE CAN'T CONTROL WHAT POLITICIANS ARE DOING BUT WE CAN CONTROL THINGS OF WHO WE VOTE FOR AND SURROUND OURSELVES WITH.

IF YOU WANT A CERTAIN CANDIDATE, HELP POLL FOR THEM.

>> BE PROACTIVE.

>> BE PROACTIVE IF YOU SIT AROUND AND COMMISERATE YOU WILL BE UNHAPPY.

>> I BEING PROACTIVE IS DIFFERENT IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE ENERGY, CAN'T FOCUS AND ALL THESE STRESS THINGS ARE HITTING YOU UPSIDE DOWN.

>> YEAH.

>> RIGHT NOW IT'S NICE.

>> YEAH.

AND FOCUS THINGS THAT BRING YOU SECURITY AND SAFETY.

AND CREATIVITY.

>> YEAH.

>> I WAS READ THIS IS BOOK ABOUT OUT RIGHT BRAIN LEFT BRAIN AND THAT KIND OF THING.

LET THE RAIN BRAIN DO ITSY THING AND TELL THE LEFT BRAIN TO KNOCK IT OR FOR A WHILE.

>> YEAH.

THERE IS A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO JUST TO MAKE YOURSELF STOP THINKING ABOUT THINGS AND FOCUS SOMETHING ELSE.

AND THAT WOULD BE A HUGE PUSH.

>> WHAT ABOUT COMMUNITY, SOCIAL SUPPORT, THESE SORTS OF THINGS IN.

>> I MEAN, IF THEY ARE HELPING YOU FEEL BETTER I UP ENCOURAGE THAT, THERE ARE SITUATIONS IF YOU HANG OUT WITH FRIENDS THAT FEEL LIKE THEY ARE LIVING IN A DUMPSTER FIRE ALL THE TIME YOU DON'T WANT TO BE AROUND THEM EITHER, RIGHT?

YOU PICK AND CHOOSE WHO YOU SURROUND YOURSELF WITH.

>> ARE THERE SOME FOLKS THAT WANT TO DOOM SCROLL THAT FEEL BETTER WHEN NEVER IN THE DUMPSTER FIRE?

>> WHAT THEIR STATUS QUO IS AND WHAT THEY LIKE TO FEEL, I WOULD SAY YEAH, THERE ARE PEOPLE LIKE THAT.

AND WE HAVE ON PUSH THEM THE OTHER WAY.

>> ALL RIGHT, YOU GOT ABOUT 30 SECONDS HERE, YOUR BEST ADVISE FOR SOMEONE NOT FEELING IT RIGHT NOW.

>> DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

DON'T KEEP DOING THE SAME THING IF YOU KEEP DOING THE SAME THING AND WANT THE SAME RESULT, IT'S GOING TO BE THE SAME THING.

DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.

IF YOU ARE COME SCROLL AND FEELING TERRIBLE DON'T COME SCROLL.

WATCH YOUR FAVORITE MOVIE.

>> YEAH, KNOCK IT OFF.

WATCH HORIZON.

>> YEAH.

>> FOR THE MOST PART.

>> VALLEY WISE HEALTH INFORMATION OF COURSE GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THAT IS IT FOR NOW, I AM TED SIMONS, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.

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