>> TAX MONEY FOR NATIONWIDE ARENA UPGRADES.

> >> WELCOME TO COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD, I'M MIKE THOMPSON.

WHEN NATIONWIDE ARENA WAS BUILT, THE PRIVATE SECTOR PAID FOR IT -AFTER VOTERS SAID NO TO HELPING.

THE TOTAL COST COST $175 MILLION.

THAT WAS 25 YEARS AGO.

THEN THE PUBLIC TOOK IT OVER IN 2012.

NOW THE PUBLIC AUTHORITY THAT OWNS THE ARENA SAYS IT NEEDS $400 MILLION --MORE THAN DOUBLE THE ORIGINAL COST --TO RENOVATE IT.

AND IT'S LOOKING FOR TAXPAYERS TO PICK UP MUCH OF THE TAB.

COLUMBUS AND FRANKLIN COUNTY OFFICIALS HAVE ASKED FOR $150 MILLION FROM THE STATE, CITY AND COUNTY.

THEY WANT MORE CASINO TAXES AND AN INCREASE IN TAXES ON TICKETS FOR NATIONWIDE ARENA EVENTS.

THE PLAN ALSO INCLUDES MONEY FROM PRIVATE SOURCES INCLUDING THE BLUE JACKETS WHO PLAY AT THE ARENA RENT FREE AND GET TO KEEP THE BEER MONEY.

TERRY CASEY, NATIONWIDE ARENA HAS NOTICED MAJOR LEAGUE SPORTS , THE NCAA FINAL FOUR WHICH WAS INCREDIBLE.

THE ARENA DISTRICT IS SPENDING $225 MILLION IN TAX MONEY A GOOD INVESTMENT?

>> IT'S MORE LIKE $400 MILLION.

SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE REPLACING THE ROOF AND HVAC SYSTEM, SOME OF THE OTHER MONEY FOR IMPROVING THE FAN EXPERIENCE A LOT OF TIMES JUST MEANS BIGGER SCOREBOARDS WITH MORE ADVERTISING OR OTHER AREAS TO SELL SOUVENIRS AND PROFIT THINGS.

THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS.

PART OF THE PACKAGE AS I READ IT INCLUDING THE CITY AND COUNTY TO FLOAT A BUNCH OF BONDS, HOW WILL THEY PAY FOR THAT TO MARK AGAIN, THERE WERE FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES IN THE PAST VOTERS HERE SAID NO TO THE TAXPAYERS PICKING UP THE TAB.

WE WILL SEE HOW THEY EXPLAIN AND HOW THEY JUSTIFY.

MORE PEOPLE ARE QUESTIONING WHEN YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE TAXES OR PAY THE TICKET PRICE YOU CAN'T GET A TICKET, IS IT REALLY WORTH SUBSIDIZING BILLIONAIRE OWNERS AND MILLIONAIRE PLAYERS?

>> AMONG THESE ARENAS WE SAW IN CLEVELAND.

BROWNS STADIUM WITH UNCLAIMED FUNDS MONEY FROM THE STATE.

PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT IT, BUT THE GOVERNMENT CHECKS KEEP GETTING PAST.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE SELECTIVE OUTRAGE.

IN THE CITY OF CLEVELAND THEY ACTUALLY RELOCATED THE STADIUM OUT OF THE CITY, TOOK IT TO A SUBURBAN AND USED $600 MILLION BACKED BY PEOPLE WITH UNCLAIMED FUNDS.

YOU HAVE WHAT I VIEW AS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

ALL OF THE PARTIES COMING TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THIS CRITICAL ASSET, THIS ARENA IS FUNCTIONING AND COMPETITIVE.

I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THESE TYPES OF PUBLIC -PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS.

I THINK THE CITY AND COUNTY ARE WELL WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS TO GO TO THE STATE OF OHIO AND SAY THE CITY OF COLUMBUS IS GENERATING A LOT OF REVENUE FOR THE STATE.

WE WOULD LIKE SOME OF THAT TO COME BACK TO THE COMMUNITY.

IT SEEMS LIKE A FAIR REQUEST GIVEN WHAT WE SAW IN CLEVELAND.

>> GIVEN WHAT WE SAW IN CLEVELAND WILL LAWMAKERS BE RECEPTIVE?

CINCINNATI IS NOT FAR BEHIND.

>> YEAH.

THEY OPENED THE SPIGOT SO THEY HAVE TO BE RECEPTIVE AND WHEN CINCINNATI COMES ALLOW THEM ALSO.

I THINK THAT LOU HIT ON SOMETHING.

RIGHT NOW PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THESE THINGS AND THEY ARE NOT HAPPY ABOUT THE WAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS FUNDING THESE THINGS.

THE QUESTION IS, HOW LONG ARE VOTERS GOING TO SAY WE'VE HAD ENOUGH.

WHAT IS THAT THRESHOLD.

>> MATH IS ALWAYS TRICKY.

ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION THE ORIGINAL $175 MILLION COST IN 2000 WOULD BE $330 MILLION FOR THE ENTIRE ARENA.

THAT IS LESS.

MY MATH TELLS ME THAT IS LESS THAN $400 MILLION THAN THEY ARE ASKING FOR THE RENOVATION.

>> UK CONSULTANTS, ARCHITECTS, ENGINEERS, UNION LABOR CONTRACTS AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS INVOLVED.

A LOT OF THAT IS BECAUSE A LOT OF THINGS WILL STAY THE SAME.

IT'S JUST THESE EXTRA THINGS GENERATING MORE MONEY FOR THE SPORTS TEAM.

THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS AND I THINK WE NEED MORE ANSWERS BEFORE THEY APPROVE IT.

IF YOU WILL FLOAT HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN BONDS YOU WANT TO KNOW WHO'S GOING TO PAY IT, PICK UP THE TAB.

WHEN YOU SHIFT MONEY FROM CASINO RECEIPTS TO THE ARENA YOU HAVE LESS MONEY TO PAY POLICE AND FIRE AND FIX THE STREET.

>> NEW VOTERS REJECTED A SALES TAX INCREASE FOR THE ARENA .

THEY REJECTED IT BY 12 POINTS.

WHAT THAT DID WAS PROMPTED NOT A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP BUT A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

IT WORKED, UNTIL THE BLUE JACKETS COMPLAINED IN 2012 IN THE PUBLIC TOOK IT OVER.

WHY NOT JUST HAVE A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP?

IT NATIONWIDE, INTEL, GET THEM TO PAY FOR IT.

>> WE DO THIS AT THE LOCAL AND STATE LEVEL WHERE WE PROVIDE STRATEGIC INCENTIVES FOR INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ALLOWS THESE INVESTMENTS TO WORK IN THE COMMUNITY.

ALWAYS WHEN YOU ARE SITTING IN PUBLIC OFFICE IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THESE AND SAY, WHAT'S THE RETURN ON INVESTMENT?

IF WE WILL PUT PUBLIC DOLLARS AND .

IN THIS CASE I LOOK AT FRANKLIN COUNTY AND SAY THEY ARE A SIGNIFICANT PART -- THE ADVANCE VERY FAR.

PEOPLE DON'T MIND BACKING A WINNER LIKE OHIO STATE, BUT WHEN YOU ARE A PERENNIAL SECONDARY TEAM THAT MAKES PEOPLE UNHAPPY.

>> THERE IS REALLY ONLY ONE PLAYOFF SERIES AND THE ENTIRE THING.

THIS RELIES ON CASINO TAX MONEY REVENUE.

IS THAT A WISE IDEA BASED ON PROJECTIONS OF CASINO TAX MONEY HAVE NOT ALWAYS PANNED OUT.

>> IT IS A WILD WAY TO TRY TO FUND THINGS.

YOU ARE RIGHT.

IT CAN VARY SUBSTANTIALLY ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE NEW GAMBLING COMING ONLINE ALL THE TIME, WHAT IS NEW AND SOMETIMES MORE ATTRACTIVE TO A GAMBLER.

IT IS NOT A GREAT WAY TO FUND THINGS BUT IT DOES GIVE THEM SOME MONEY.

I THINK WE ARE COMING TO THE POINT WHERE THOSE KIND OF ONE- TIME FUNDING WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT MORE SUSTAINED FUNDING.

>> THE LAW SAYS YOU CAN'T DO THIS LEGALLY.

VOTERS JUST PASSED A BOND PACKAGE.

WHY NOT MAKE IT 2 1/2 BILLION AND SAY WE WILL FIX UP NATIONWIDE ARENA.

>> MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS WOULD BE USER FEES AND IT WOULD NOT BE NECESSARILY A TAX INCREASE BUT IT WOULD BE FEES ON PEOPLE THAT ARE UTILIZED THAT ARE GOING TO THE GAMES OR GAMBLING.

AGAIN, FOR THE CITY OF COLUMBUS AND FRANKLIN COUNTY WHO IS A MAJOR CONTRIBUTOR TO THE STATE IN TERMS OF TAX REVENUE .

YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED IN CLEVELAND AND SAY, WE ARE A BIG PART OF WHY OHIO IS HAVING ON THE SUCCESS.

ALL OF THESE DEVELOPMENT DEALS.

FROM MY STANDPOINT WHEN YOU ARE INVESTING AND LEVERAGING THOSE LOCAL AND STATE INCENTIVES IF YOU ARE SENDING MONEY TO THE STATE OF OHIO DOES THAT RETURN TO YOU?

>> I JUST DON'T SINCE THE ELECTION OF CITY COUNCIL THEY'VE INCREASED WATER RATES, ELECTRIC RATES, REACHED A SETTLEMENT WITH THE CITY COUNCIL ON A HARASSMENT CHARGE AND NOW ASKING THE TAXPAYERS TO APPROVE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS FOR THE NATIONWIDE ARENA.

>> TOO BAD THEY CANNOT TALK ABOUT IT BEFORE THE ELECTION.

>> THEY DID NOT WANT TO RISK LOSING THE BOND ISSUE IF THEY PUT IT IN THERE.

>> THE NEWLY FOCUSED GOVERNORS RACE, VIVEK RAMASWAMY FLOATED THE IDEA OF HAVING KIDS GO TO SCHOOL TO SAVE PARENTS DAYCARE MONEY.

HIS OPPONENT AMY ACTON JUMPED ON IT AND REPOSTED A SOURCE -- A PORTION OF HIS VIDEO.

>> IT'S MORE AFFORDABLE MAKING SCHOOL YEAR-ROUND AND GOING FROM 3:00 TO 4:00 SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY FOR CHILD CARE.

>> OTHER SOCIAL MEDIA MESSAGES AND VIDEOS DID NOT MENTION THAT IDEA.

LOU GENTILE, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

IS IT A GOOD IDEA AND STOOD THE MOTIVATION TO NEED TO SAVE MONEY?

>> THE INTERESTING THING IS THEY TRY TO GO BACK AND SAY THIS WITH SOME A. I. GENERATED DEEP FAKE INSTEAD OF JUST OWNING IT AND TAKING RESPONSIBILITY.

SOMETIMES WHEN YOU DO THAT YOU MAKE IT MORE OF AN ISSUE.

I THINK IN SOME WAYS IT SENDS A MESSAGE THAT VIVEK IS A LITTLE OUT OF TOUCH OF WHAT PEOPLE IN OHIO ARE GOING THROUGH IN TERMS OF CHILDCARE.

SOMEBODY WHO TALKS A LOT ABOUT NOT WANTING TO INVEST IN PUBLIC SCHOOLS BUT WANTS TO PUT THE BURDEN ONTO TEACHERS, IF YOU TALK TO TEACHERS AND ADMINISTRATORS THEY WILL TELL YOU THIS IS NOT DAYCARE.

WE ARE NOT BABYSITTERS.

WE ARE EDUCATORS.

I THINK THAT IS A BIGGER ISSUE.

THAT SAID, AMY ACTON HAS HAD A COUPLE GOOD WEEKS.

HER CAMPAIGN IS BUILDING GOOD MOMENTUM.

WHEN I THINK ABOUT THESE CAMPAIGNS I THINK ABOUT DR.

ACT AND EAT SNAILS FOR BREAKFAST, GETS ON THE ROAD AND HER AMERICAN-MADE CAR AND DRIVES ALL OVER THE STATE AND YOU HAVE VIVEK RAMASWAMY FLYING AROUND THE STATE IN HIS PRIVATE JET.

THE OPTICS ARE NOT VERY GOOD.

HIS CAMPAIGN HAS SEEM TO HIT A RUT FROM BOTH THE RIGHT AND LEFT.

>> EARLY ON VIVEK RAMASWAMY WANTED TO ELIMINATE PROPERTY TAXES.

SORT OF OFF THE CUFF FIRED UP.

HE HAD TO BACKTRACK ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.

IS THIS JUST ANOTHER CASE.

HE IS HOLDING HIS PHONE OUT MAKING A VIDEO.

I'M GUESSING IF THERE WAS A CAMPAIGN CONSULTANT NEXT TO HIM SAYING LET'S NOT DO THIS.

>> IN ALL HONESTY THE YEAR- ROUND SCHOOLING HAS TO VERIFY.

MY WIFE HAD MANY DECADES AS A SCHOOL NURSE AND KNOWS THERE'S A LOT OF KIDS WHEN YOU HAVE THAT THREE-MONTH GAP THERE IS A DEFICIENCY THAT BUILDS UP BECAUSE SOME KIDS HAVE PARENTS THAT ARE INVOLVED AND KEEPING LEARNING.

OTHER KIDS ARE NOT AS FORTUNATE.

THERE'S REASONS TO LOOK AT IT.

IT DOES NOT MEAN YOU WOULD HAVE 12 MONTHS BECAUSE YOU COULD VERY THE TIME.

IT IS AN ISSUE THAT ALL TO BE TALKED ABOUT BECAUSE THERE IS.

NOT ONLY FROM COVID BUT FROM THE LONG SUMMER A LOT OF KIDS SUFFER FROM THE GAP AND THEN THEY RESTART IN SEPTEMBER OR AUGUST.

>> SHOEHORNING IT INTO AFFORDABILITY.

IT'S LIKE EVERY ANSWER HAS TO HAVE AFFORDABILITY NOW.

>> WHAT IS THE COST FOR THE TAXPAYERS TO HAVE TEACHERS IN THERE?

>> DEPENDING HOW YOU SPACE IT OUT I DON'T THINK HE'S TALKING ABOUT 12 CONTINUOUS MONTHS EVERY WEEK.

ADJUSTING THE SCHEDULE BECAUSE A LOT OF THIS WHOLE BUSINESS OF THE SUMMER OFF OF SCHOOL GOES BACK TO THE 1800S WHEN WE WERE AND AGRICULTURE ECONOMY AND VERY FEW PEOPLE WORKED OFF OF A FARM.

>> WHY NOT MAKE THAT ARGUMENT INSTEAD OF AFFORDABILITY?

IS IT BECAUSE AFFORDABILITY HAS TO BE LOWERING PRICES FOR EVERYBODY?

>> IT IS A BIG ISSUE AND WILL PROBABLY BE THE BIG ISSUE GOING INTO NEXT YEAR FOR VOTERS.

THE THING YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER IS IT WILL COST MORE MONEY TO HAVE YEAR-ROUND SCHOOL.

DEPENDING HOW YOU STRUCTURE IT IT COULD COST SIGNIFICANTLY MORE.

RIGHT NOW A LOT OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE SAYING THEY CAN'T MAKE ENDS MEET WITH WHAT THEY ARE GETTING.

MAYBE THE OPTION IS TO HAVE BETTER DAYCARE POSSIBILITIES, OTHER KINDS OF THINGS.

IT IS A WHOLE DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO BE FRAMED THAT WAY.

>> AMY ACTON WAS QUICK TO JUMP ON THIS.

YEAR-ROUND SCHOOL IS BAD BUT THERE COULD BE A LOT OF PARENTS THAT SAY THE EDUCATION RESULTS COULD BE BETTER.

THEY DON'T LOSE THAT GAP.

IS IT THE TEACHERS UNION SHE'S TRYING TO CURRY FAVOR WITH RATHER THAN PARENTS?

>> PUBLIC EDUCATION HAS BEEN THE WHIPPING BOY IN THE STATE OF OHIO FOR DECADES.

THE GOP HAS CONTINUED TO CUT PUBLIC EDUCATION.

THEY SHIFT THE BURDEN ONTO BETTY AND BOB BUCKEYE SO TO SPEAK OFF THE PROPERTY TAXPAYERS.

I WILL SAY THIS AFFORDABILITY ISSUE WILL BE A BIGGER ISSUE.

THE PRESIDENT RIGHT NOW IS DISMISSING THE ISSUE.

I THINK IT WILL BE IMPACTFUL IN THIS UPCOMING RACE.

I THINK THAT VIVEK AND HIS CAMPAIGN ARE SCRAMBLING TO FIGURE OUT THE ISSUE BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT IS SAYING IT IS A CON JOB.

WE KNOW THAT WHEN PEOPLE GO OUT COSTS ARE UP THROUGH THE ROOF.

THE PROPERTY TAXES.

IT'S AN ISSUE AND IT WILL BE AN ISSUE THAT COMES BACK TO GET THEM IN THE FALL.

>> YOU HAVE BEEN OUT OF THE LEGISLATURE.

THE LAST FOUR YEARS THEY VETTED $3.

1 BILLION MORE AT A TIME WHEN ENROLLMENT IS SHRINKING.

COLUMBUS SCHOOLS HAVE SOME CHALLENGES.

TOO MANY BUILDINGS, NOT ENOUGH STUDENTS BUT COLUMBUS SCHOOLS HAVE 300 MILLION CASH ON HAND.

THAT WON'T LAST FOREVER, BUT SOME OF THE SCHOOLS CRY POOR MOUTH WHEN THEY ACTUALLY HAVE MORE MONEY THAN THEY LET ON.

>> $1 BILLION TO PRIVATE SCHOOLS.

'S YOU WANT TO SEND YOUR KIDS TO PRIVATE SCHOOL YOU PAY FOR IT.

YOU DON'T ASK THE TAXPAYERS TO UNDERWRITE YOU.

>> SPEAKING OF PAIN FOR SCHOOLS LAWMAKERS CONTINUE TO TRY TO TWEAK STATE LAW TO LOWER PROPERTY TAXES.

A NEW PROPOSAL WOULD REQUIRE A PAYMENT PLAN OPTION AND MAKE LEVY LANGUAGE EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.

ANOTHER BILL WOULD OFFER AN INCENTIVE TO A HIGH AS 2200 LOCAL GOVERNMENT ENTITIES TO MERGE.

IT WOULD GIVE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS UP TO TWO AND A HALF-MILLION DOLLARS TO MERGE AND PRESUMABLY CUT COSTS AND NEED LESS PROPERTY TAXES.

JOE INGLES, THESE ARE ON THE EDGES.

A PAYMENT PLAN, PROPERTY TAXES.

THAT WOULD BE NICE, PERHAPS.

>> THAT IS THE THING.

TINKERING AROUND THE EDGES WON'T MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE IN THE BOTTOM LINE.

THE THING IS IT IS SOMETHING.

IT'S MORE THAN WE HAVE HAD BEFORE.

THERE JUST A DISCUSSION THERE THAT NEEDS TO BE HAD.

WE ARE KIND OF GETTING THAT AT THIS TABLE RIGHT NOW.

WHERE DO PUBLIC DOLLARS, WHERE DO THEY BELONG?

WHAT DOES THE PUBLIC PAY FOR?

THAT'S WHY IT NEEDS TO BE THE DISCUSSION .

IT SEEMS LIKE AT THE STATEHOUSE WE ARE HEARING A LOT OF THINGS TRYING TO GO AROUND THE EDGES, THAT WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES IN TOTAL HOW TO SPEND TAX MONEY.

>> THE INCENTIVES FOR THE 1300 TOWNSHIPS, I BELIEVE, MAYBE EVEN MORE IN OHIO.

THE INCENTIVES ARE NICE .

IT IS 2 1/2 MILLION DOLLARS ENOUGH?

>> NO.

YOU NEED A LOT MORE AND OTHER WAYS TO ENCOURAGE, BUT PART OF THE PROBLEM IT IS HARD TO GENERALIZE ESTATE AS BIG AS OHIO.

ONE FORMER TRUSTEE WHERE YOU LIVE EXPLAINED WHAT WORKS IN ONE TOWNSHIP IN FRANKLIN COUNTY MAY OR MAY NOT WORK IN OTHER RURAL COUNTIES WHERE THE TOWNSHIPS ARE SMALLER.

IT IS HARD TO GENERALIZE, BUT THERE ARE SUCCESS STORIES OUT THERE.

I WAS ON THE LIBRARY BOARD IN COLUMBUS FOR 14 YEARS.

IT'S NICE TO KNOW TODAY THE FRANKLIN LIBRARIES AND OTHER ADJOINING LIBRARIES HAVE THE CARD CATALOGS PULLED TOGETHER AND YOU CAN DRAW FROM 4 MILLION ITEMS.

SOME OF IT HAS HAPPENED BUT WE NEED A LOT MORE TO SAVE TAXPAYER MONEY.

>> CAN I JUST SAY YOU LOOK AT THIS ISSUE OF PROPERTY TAXES, THERE WERE SEVERAL BILLS JUST PASSED IN THE LEGISLATURE.

WHAT THE QUESTION BECOMES IS WILL THE VOTERS AND PEOPLE AT HOME WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH THIS ISSUE LIVING ON FIXED INCOMES AND A LOT OF THESE RURAL AREAS, WILL THEY REALLY FEEL THE IMPACT OF THIS?

I AM NOT SO SURE THESE BILLS COLLECTIVELY WILL DRAMATICALLY REDUCE THEIR BILLS AND DRAMATICALLY ALLEVIATE THAT BURDEN.

I DO NOT KNOW THAT THEY'VE DONE ENOUGH TO BLUNT THIS STATEWIDE BALLOT INITIATIVE.

I'M ALSO NOT SURE THE ORGANIZATION CAN GET THE SIGNATURES THEY NEED.

QUITE FRANKLY IF THEY DID IT WOULD BE DISASTROUS.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS DONE WHEN YOU TAKE IT ALL TOGETHER WILL REALLY HIT HARD AT HOME AND PEOPLE WILL SAY, MY TAXES HAVE REALLY BEEN REDUCED.

>> IT GOES TO THAT AFFORDABILITY THINK WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT.

PROPERTY TAXES HAVE BEEN A HUGE ISSUE WHETHER IT'S ON THE BALLOT OR NOT .

LET'S MOVE TO THE CHILD LABOR PORTION OF THE PROGRAM.

GOVERNOR DeWINE HAS SAID NO TO A PROPOSAL TO LOOSEN OHIO CHILD LABOR LAWS.

LAWMAKERS PASSED A BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW 14 AND 15-YEAR-OLDS TO WORK UNTIL 9:00 AT NIGHT YEAR-ROUND.

CURRENT STATE LAW REQUIRES THOSE KIDS TO STOP WORKING AT SEVEN LOOK ON SCHOOL NIGHTS.

SUPPORTERS ARGUE THAT IT WOULD HELP WITH STAFFING SHORTAGES.

DeWINE VETOED THE BILL SAYING IT HURT THE BALANCE OF CHILDREN LEARNING TO WORK AND THE IMPORTANCE OF THEM HAVING TIME TO STUDY.

A RARE VETO FROM GOVERNOR DeWINE.

IT IS ONLY TWO HOURS.

>> HERE'S ANOTHER THING.

FEDERAL LABOR LAWS STILL SAY 7:00.

EVEN IF THEY PASSED IT IT IS INCONGRUENT WITH WHAT THEY HAVE ON THE FEDERAL LAWS.

THE QUESTION, IT BELONGS THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO ANSWER HERE THAT THE GOVERNOR IS RAISING IS WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN AND THEY ARE WORKING UNTIL 9:00 AT NIGHT THAT IS PRETTY LATE PICK THEN THEY ARE EXPECTED IF YOU ARE GOING TO SCHOOL AT 7:00 THE NEXT MORNING GETTING ON THE BUS AT 5:30, THAT IS A LOT OF TIME.

>> IS THIS SIMPLY JUST A WAY FOR COMPANIES TO SAVE MONEY.

THE MINIMUM WAGE WILL BE $11 AN HOUR.

FOR 14 AND 15-YEAR-OLDS THAT IS $7.

25.

SO YOU COULD SAVE ALMOST 4 DOLLARS AN HOUR.

>> INTERESTINGLY MOST OF THE BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BENEFIT TEND TO BE SMALLER FAMILY ORIENTED.

LARGER CORPORATIONS, LIKE JOE MENTIONED IF YOU ARE A NATIONAL CORPORATION YOU CAN'T USE THIS AS MUCH.

THE OTHER FACTOR UNDER TODAY'S CURRENT LAW AND THE GOOD NEWS IS IT WOULD STILL CONTINUE UNDER THIS.

IF YOU DID THIS IT REQUIRES PARENTAL AND SCHOOL OKAY TO BE DOING THESE KIND OF THINGS.

THOSE ARE IMPORTANT SAFEGUARDS.

IS THAT ENOUGH?

COULD THERE BE ABUSE?

THERE ARE STRONG PRO AND CON ARGUMENTS AND THIS BILL DID PASS BY VETOPROOF MARGINS ORIGINALLY.

IT IS AN INTERESTING ISSUE.

THERE IS SOME REAL MEAT AND COMMENTS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.

>> I ALWAYS WONDER IS IT A STAFFING SHORTAGE OR PAY SHORTAGE TO GET MORE STAFF?

>> YOU TALK TO EMPLOYERS I'M SURE THEY WILL TELL YOU IT'S A CHALLENGE TO GET PEOPLE IN THE WORKFORCE TODAY.

I'M NOT SAYING THIS , I AGREE WITH THE DECISION TO VETO THIS.

HE IS A TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVE.

IN HIS MIND WE HAVE EXISTING LAWS IN PLACE.

SOMETIMES YOU DON'T NEED IN- LAWS.

I THINK IT IS IRONIC.

SOME OF THE MORE MODERN REPUBLICAN MAGA REPUBLICANS TEND TO OVER LEGISLATE AT TIMES BUT THIS GOVERNOR VETOED IT.

IT WAS THE RIGHT DECISION.

I THINK IT IS GOOD.

I THINK WORKING DEMONSTRATES DISCIPLINE AND KIDS LEARN A LOT.

I THINK IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THEY HAVE WORK OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL, BUT YOU HAVE TO STRIKE THAT BALANCE.

I THINK THAT IS WHY HE VETOED IT.

>> WILL HE BE OVERRIDDEN?

>> IF THEY OVERRIDE THEY WOULD HAVE UNTIL NEXT YEAR TO DO IT.

LIKE I POINTED OUT INITIALLY, WHEN YOU HAVE A FEDERAL LAW THAT IS NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN ANYWAY.

>> OUR OTHER CHILD LABOR ISSUE.

THE AGENCY THAT REGULATES OHIO HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETICS HAS GIVEN ATHLETES THE GO AHEAD TO EARN MONEY ON THE SIDE.

THE OHIO ATHLETIC ASSOCIATION LIFTED THE BAN ON NAME, IMAGE, LIKENESS INCOME.

THE MOVE CAME AFTER HIGH SCHOOL ATHLETIC DIRECTORS AROUND THE STATE VOTED OVERWHELMINGLY TO LIFT THE BAN.

AT LEAST ONE STATE LAWMAKER WANTS TO MAKE THOSE PAYMENTS ILLEGAL.

ADAM BYRD FROM SUBURBAN CINCINNATI SAID YOUNG ATHLETES SHOULD NOT FACE THE PRESSURE OF MAKING MONEY FROM THEIR SPORT.

SUPPORTERS SAY THE PROGRAM COMPENSATES DESERVING STUDENT ATHLETES AND OHIO WOULD BE AT A DISADVANTAGE IF IT DID NOT ALLOW.

TERRY CASEY , SHOULD ATHLETES IN HIGH SCHOOL BE ALLOWED TO GET A CAR DEALERSHIP TO HAVE THEM STAND IN THE PARKING LOT AND GREET THE CUSTOMERS FOR A FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS?

>> IN THEORY WE ARE OF FREE COUNTRY.

ON THE OTHER HAND THE DETAILS ON HOW IT'S REGULATED IS A CHALLENGE.

THIS WEEK I SPOKE TO CONGRESSMAN CARRIE.

THEY WERE GETTING READY TO PASS THE BILL ON COLLEGE ATHLETES BUT IT WAS PULLED .

IT'S AN INTERESTING OUT DIANA -ESQUE IDEA TO REGULATE MAKING EVERYBODY HAPPY IS TOUGH BECAUSE A KID IN A RURAL COMMUNITY VERSUS SUBURBAN VERSUS URBAN YET DIFFERENT KITS AND DIFFERENT CIRCUMSTANCES.

THERE IS A PROBLEM BUT TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT COLLEGE -WISE OR HIGH SCHOOL IS NOT EASY OR SIMPLE OR QUICK.

>> WE GO WAY BACK TO WHERE OLYMPIANS WERE NOT BEING PAID.

NOW THEY ARE.

FOR COLLEGE YOU CAN ARGUE THAT THEY ARE GETTING PAID.

BUT NOW HIGH SCHOOL.

HIGH SCHOOL IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT.

>> I AM NOT SURPRISED TO SEE LEGISLATION.

IF YOU RECALL THERE WAS A VOTE BY HIGH SCHOOLS ACROSS OHIO.

THEY VOTED DOWN THIS IDEA.

THE COURT DECISION SORT OF FORCED THEM TO COME BACK AND PASS SOMETHING ALTHOUGH THERE WERE HUNDREDS OF SCHOOLS THAT ABSTAINED FROM THE VOTE.

I TEND TO THINK ABOUT THIS .

THERE ARE GUARDRAILS IN PLACE.

THERE HAVE BEEN THINGS THAT WERE AGREED UPON AND VOTED ON.

SO LET'S SEE IF THAT WORKS.

WILL THAT CONTAIN THIS?

IT JUST WAS VOTED SO I WOULD SAY LET'S LOOK AT THAT.

DOESN'T WORK AND DOESN'T NEED TO COME BACK LEGISLATIVELY AND LOOK AT OTHER ASPECTS.

>> IF YOU ARE A TALENTED HIGH SCHOOL ACTOR AND YOU WANT TO START A TV SHOW OR COMMERCIAL YOU SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO THAT.

SO WHY DO ATHLETES GET CARVED OUT?

>> IF YOU ARE IN THE BAND OR HIGH SCHOOL ACTOR MAKING THE KIND OF MONEY DO THEY GET A CAR DEAL I HAVE NOT REALLY SEEN THAT.

>> ONE OF THE IMPORTANT DETAILS, THERE'S RULES TODAY BUT ARE THEY ENFORCED EFFECTIVELY ON CERTAIN SCHOOLS OR DISTRICTS RECRUITING PARENTS TO MOVE INTO THEIR DISTRICT FREE RENT AND GET TO LIVE THERE IN ORDER TO IN ESSENCE BY THE ATHLETE.

HOW DO YOU MANAGE RECRUITING, COMPENSATING PARENTS AND KIDS.

IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BUT IT DOES.

>> I TALKED TO MY FATHER ABOUT THIS.

YOU TALK TO SOME ADMINISTRATORS AND COACHES AND THEY SAY ONE OF THE CONCERNS IS THE SCHOOLS WITH THE MONEY.

THE ABILITY TO RECRUIT AND BRING PEOPLE IN.

SO PERHAPS WHAT WAS PASSED RECENTLY BY SCHOOLS ACROSS THE STATE .

>> THE FINAL OFF THE RECORD PARTING SHOTS.

>> THEY WILL BE SURPRISED IN 2026 .

THE DEMOCRATS WILL HAVE A REALLY GOOD YEAR .

IT'S GOING TO FINALLY HIT HOME AND OHIO.

>> IN THIS WEEK SENATOR MARINO PROHIBITED THE IDEA OF DUAL CITIZENSHIP HE MAY WANT TO CHECK WITH A CERTAIN FIRST LADY AT THE WHITE HOUSE, FORMER GOVERNOR SCHWARZENEGGER AND A LOT OF JEWISH OHIOANS WHO LOVE HAVING A CONNECTION TO ISRAEL AS WELL AS BEING PROUD AMERICAN CITIZENS.

WE WILL SEE WHAT HE COMES UP WITH TO JUSTIFY THE BILL AND WHAT PROBLEM IT WILL SOLVE.

>> WE HAVE A PUBLIC, PRIVATE THAT'S WORKED FOR LONG TIME.

IT'S CALLED PUBLIC RADIO AND TELEVISION.

WE OFFER SERVICES IN PUBLIC RADIO AND TV .

WE ASK FOR PEOPLE TO GIVE US MONEY BUT THEY CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO.

THEY CAN READ OUR PRODUCTS AND LISTEN TO OUR STUFF.

MAYBE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE TAX MONEY.

MAYBE THE ANSWER IS AROUND WHAT PUBLIC RADIO AND TV DOES.

>> IT'S BEEN A TOUGH WEEK FOR SOMALI COMMUNITY AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HERE IN COLUMBUS .

FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS THE SOMALI COMMUNITY HAS DONE WONDERFUL THINGS FOR THIS COMMUNITY.

IT SHOULD GO WITHOUT SAYING BUT LET'S SAY IT ANYWAY, WE ARE GLAD YOU ARE HERE.

> >> THAT IS PUT COLUMBUS ON THE RECORD FOR THIS WEEK.

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