Brian.

Buju, how you been the minnow?

I yeah, I'm doing pretty well.

Continuing from our last discussion.

Up at Saint Scholastica.

And since that time we met the week before the stay at home order came in that.

Week.

Everyone left.

What did that mean for you and your, classes that you were teaching them?

That meant going full remote for the most part.

And we spent, I think, a week after spring break, even preparing for the whole, like the whole lockdown and shut down and everything.

And we I basically spent two weeks converting everything over to like an online format and basically turning all my lessons into something a little more interactive, a little more what we call like asynchronous.

So where they're, they're doing things outside of class rather than just doing stuff in class with me.

How how big of a, process is it for you to, transfer from the.

Classroom, teaching.

To distance learning?

It's it's honestly been, been a little bit of a challenge.

It's, you know, and I've got full support from, you know, from CHS, you know, that's something that I'm not worried about.

It's more so like how?

Because there's not very many resources for this should now be more.

And in general, you know, what do I use.

How do I use it.

What you know, what am I comfortable with teaching in a camera, in a camera setting versus a versus an in-person setting?

What are they not going to get?

I've definitely spent a lot more time doing explanations in English, which is definitely a challenge for me, because now it's put me in a situation where like, okay, how do I explain that Anishinaabe in on how do I explain that in English?

Right.

So yeah, definitely been a challenge.

And then like to now I have students who were like on camp like we met on campus for a week before I had to go back into quarantine because, that was two weeks out from my son being born.

And in order to meet my son, they wanted me to sit two weeks at home.

And by the time that he was born, I ended up just staying home.

And so I've been here ever since.

I've been here since the second week in September.

But they that first week, they were they were really reset, receptive.

They were really responsive.

But there was another type of learning curve there for them because you can't see my face.

You can't hear me really well when there's a mask over my face right.

And so, you know, and they can't see my mouth move.

So I had to I had to back up into a corner, sometimes remove my mask because they could see my mouth move, because there are certain sounds in Ojibwe I'm on.

Right.

That, you know, you need to be able to like the glottal stop and like the the edge sound like that, sound.

And, you know, it's every once in a while you got to stop them.

And just like, listen, you need to listen clearly what comes next.

I guess I'm hoping to, develop a few things on our, our learning environment online, and just start producing like, little videos and snippets and stuff like that, and teaching my students how to, like, hey, like make up, you know, three minute video talking about this.

So they're not in class all the time, because when you're explaining things for 15 minutes, they they start to, you know, they start to get a little bored with, with, you know, even if it's in Ojibwe, I, it's like, I have no idea what he's saying.

I think I'm going to take a nap now.

Be persistent.

That's what I say for both students and teachers.

Be persistent in what you're doing.

If it's something that you're passionate about, it'll come to you.

Things will start clicking.

And be patient with the teachers for the for the students.

Be patient with the teachers.

They're trying to teach a different way that they're not used to.

And for the teachers, be patient with how they're learning.

They're not used to learning this way.