Cascade PBS Ideas Festival
Text Me Back!: Court Roast
Season 1 Episode 2 | 28m 22sVideo has Closed Captions
Lindy West, Meagan Hatcher-Mays and Guy Branum skewer the courts and the news of the day.
A celebration of the 25-year best friendship between New York Times bestselling author Lindy West and recovering lawyer and democracy expert Meagan Hatcher-Mays. The pair dissects pop culture, politics, snakes, the paranormal and anything else that crosses their minds. They are joined by Los Angeles-based comedian, movie star and icon Guy Branum for a raucous roast of the Supreme Court.
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Cascade PBS Ideas Festival
Text Me Back!: Court Roast
Season 1 Episode 2 | 28m 22sVideo has Closed Captions
A celebration of the 25-year best friendship between New York Times bestselling author Lindy West and recovering lawyer and democracy expert Meagan Hatcher-Mays. The pair dissects pop culture, politics, snakes, the paranormal and anything else that crosses their minds. They are joined by Los Angeles-based comedian, movie star and icon Guy Branum for a raucous roast of the Supreme Court.
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(bright music) (audience clapping) - Hello!
Oh my goodness.
(audience clapping) - Hello, hello, angels.
- Oh, thank you so much for coming.
Hello.
Welcome to the Cascade PBS Ideas Festival.
My name is Lindy West.
I am the host of Text Me Back!, which is a podcast about best friends and animals and ghosts and things that happened to us in 2003 and buying things to make yourself feel better.
(audience laughing) - And I'm Meagan Hatcher-Mays, also the host of Text Me Back!
We have a very exciting show for you today where we'll be joined by actor, comedian, and all around king, Guy Branum.
- Yes, Guy Branum is a famous comedian, an actor and movie star, and he's on an Apple TV show and you can see him if you are in Los Angeles next week, you can see him perform at the "Netflix Is A Joke Comedy Festival."
And he's perhaps best well-known as the most ungrateful guest at my wedding, who incorporated it into his act for three years making fun of my wedding.
And that's a testament to how delightful he is.
We're still friends and I'm so pleased to welcome to the stage, Mr.
Guy Branum.
(audience cheering) Hi, Guy.
- Hi, Guy.
- Hello.
- Welcome to our show.
Yes, hello.
Pleasure.
- Business deal struck.
Thank you.
- It was a good wedding.
They just didn't have cake.
And I went to like four weddings that summer and I didn't get white cake.
And if I come to your wedding, I expect white cake.
- I mean, we ask for such precious little.
So one of the things that I like best about Guy, which is it's hard to think of a list.
There's so many.
But one of my favorite things about Guy is that guy is a Hollywood Insider.
Guy is on television, Guy writes television.
Oh, tell them the show that you're on.
- The show that I am on is called "Platonic" with Seth Rogan and Rose Byrne, but don't worry if you've never heard about it.
Apple+ likes to hide their television shows.
(hosts laughing) - So Guy's a Hollywood Insider.
So but here's what you need to get in your life.
A Hollywood insider who's also your friend.
Because if you just meet a Hollywood insider on the street, they won't tell you the true Hollywood secrets.
But if you can invite someone to your wedding and then stay in their good graces, even if you don't give them cake.
(Guy laughs) Because you had a whole dessert buffet of different little treats.
- Oh my God.
- By the way.
- There was a beautiful dessert.
Those Rice Krispy treats were really good.
(laughing) - Yes, Seattle Company, brown butter Rice Crispy treats from the street treats.
- Oh my God.
- So I like to grill Guy about, you know, like who's nice, who's the nicest, who's the meanest, what's happening behind the scenes?
Hey, Hollywood-land man, what's happening in La la Land?
That's what I like to ask Guy.
- Yep, that's what we're gonna this segment.
- And you told me a blockbuster story recently.
- Yeah.
- And I'm gonna force you to tell it right now.
- Okay.
So I am a creepily, gigantic man.
(hosts laughing) And that means I do not get booked for a lot of acting work.
I write for things, I do stand up, but I don't get to be an actor a lot of the time.
And for a long time, I thought that was because I was not good at acting.
And then I realized, it is mostly just because everyone is like, how do you have a person that large in your movie without getting in the way of the other actors?
The point is finally at long last, there was a film coming out and they needed a fat, gay guy around the age of 50.
And I was like, "Boom."
(hosts laughing) - Like, surely I don't even need to audition.
Hello?
- And so, I mean look, there's the fat, gay guy from "Mean Girls," right?
There's a small contingent of we know who is in the race for this.
And so I auditioned for it and it went well.
And then they called me back in and they brought me in front of the director and the writer and the producers and I auditioned for them and you know, it went great.
And so they sent me to the studio.
The studio was like, "We don't know if he's famous enough.
We don't know if he's famous enough."
And so they were like, "Can we try with some people who are, you know, more well known?"
And so what they ended up doing, so I was essentially like cast.
I had gone to studio.
That meant that I was cast.
The studio just had to say yes.
And then they went and they looked at some new people and then they ended up casting Matt Bomer, who as the fat gay guy, if you don't know who Matt Bomer is, imagine a Ken doll with more abs.
- You guys, was literally in "Magic Mike," okay.
Like he played a dancer in "Magic Mike."
(laughing) - Like the hottest human being imaginable.
And it is just like, it's so frustrating because like people like me don't get to prove themselves because there aren't that many roles for us.
And then when you do, when there is a role for someone like us, they're like, "Oh, just take someone who's already famous and put them in some puffy clothing."
I mean the worst part was realizing if he wears a fat suit, I have to write an essay, you know?
If he wears a fat suit, I have to go on four podcasts and write an essay and complain about it.
But this counts as one of the podcasts.
- We're getting ahead of it.
- I was gonna say, it's like he took your job but he's making you do more work.
- Yes.
- You all have my permission to get out your phones and look up a picture of Matt Bomer.
- Yes.
- If you would like.
B-O-M-E-R.
If we'd been more prepared, we would've put it up on the screen.
- Oh, yes.
- Just imagine hot, gay guys.
You know what they look like.
(Meagan laughing) - Thank you.
- Okay.
We're going to, you've worked with like a lot of different people.
We were looking at your IMDB page to come up with some inspo for this next round which we're just gonna throw names of people that you have been on set with and you tell us what you think about them in one word.
- Absolutely.
- Great Seattle Company, Jene Smart.
- Oh, Jene Smart is a class act.
Class act is one word.
She's like so lovely.
I had like a one line part on the first season of "Hacks" and she would come over and it was like right at the beginning of Covid and she kept like lovingly touching my mask and asking me questions about it.
But can you tell a brief Jean smart story?
- Yes.
God.
- Please.
- Okay, so during this actor strike and Jean and a bunch of the actors from "Hacks" came and like everyone wanted to walk faster than her, but no one was gonna (beep) walk in front of Jean Smart because she is a two-time best comedy actress Emmy winner.
- You shared a bill at one point with Ludacris Bridges.
- Oh.
- The musical genius.
- Genius.
- Entrepreneur.
- Ludacris.
- That's what I'll say about him as an artist.
- He's a triple threat.
- Entrepreneur.
Oh my story.
Ludacris had a cognac line and people asked him, "Why do you have a cognac line?"
I think it's cognac.
And he was just like, "Everybody's got a vodka."
And I respected that.
- That's so true.
Chelsea Handler?
- Oh.
Um.
(Meagan laughing) (audience laughing) I think, "Um" is going to be my one word.
(Meagan laughing) (audience laughing) Like I love Chelsea like a sister and we don't always approve of everything that a sister does.
- That is true.
- You know?
But they're part of your life.
- That's the joy of family.
- Oh.
- Yes.
- How about Zach Efron?
Oh, like, can I tell?
- Tell the story.
- Tell the whole story.
- Okay.
(audience laughing) So it was the premiere of that movie I was in like 10 years ago with Natalie Portman.
And Ashton Kutcher at the time was the stepfather of Rumor Willis.
And so rumor Willis tried me on as a pet gay for the evening and she had this boy that she liked and we went out and we hung out with the boy and then we were going to her place in a car and the boy started freestyle rapping.
And he said, "I can freestyle rap about anything, give me a topic."
And she said, "Scooby Doo" and then rapped for five minutes and never in any way mentioned Scooby Doo.
And at that point, and at no point before, did I realize this might be Zach Efron.
(hosts laughing) (audience laughing) So I, very drunk, very late into the night, I'm like, I have to indirectly ask questions to determine if this is Zach Efron.
So I opened up with, "Where do you live?"
And he was vague and wouldn't answer.
And I was like, "All right, that's probably Zach Efron."
And then I said, "Are you half Jewish?"
To which he replied, "Well, it's my dad's dad so I'm like a third Jewish."
And I said, "This is a child who learned fractions on a sound stage."
(hosts, audience laughing) That is Zach Efron.
- The only high school he went to was a musical.
(laughing) (Guy laughing) - I wanna end on a big movie star just for fun.
- Okay.
- Because also I'm genuinely curious about this person.
What can you tell me about Natalie Portman?
- Oh, Natalie Portman was way more fun than I expected she would be.
She seems like a very controlled person.
She's been famous since she was a child and I didn't expect her to be open, honest, and fun.
And she really was open, honest, and fun and I appreciated that.
And she was very smart.
Like that movie, I played roommates with Natalie Portman, Greta Gerwig and Mindy Kaling.
And the horrible truth of, I will always be the least accomplished of these people, is like truly vexing that I like a cis white man where I'm just never going to get done what those three women are.
(laughing) - Okay, that's actually like so unfair.
I feel like you should have some sort of a sisterhood where the tide raises all of you at once and they should be bringing you.
- But the thing is is I think that that sense of, oh I will never be the most, is really, really great when it is rising and achievement.
Like, you know, Mindy has an empire.
I've worked for her before and she's so great.
Greta Gerwig is doing so much and like the film industry is refusing like is essentially Streisand-ing, essentially saying like, if you make movies about girl things, you don't get to be best director.
(laughing) - I love that.
I love that she didn't get nominated for best director.
Margo Robbie didn't get nominated for best actress, but the movie got nominated for best movie.
It's like, "We love the movie.
Didn't really care for the director or any of the people in it though."
(laughing) - [Guy] Yeah.
- Okay, it's time for the main event.
Scotus Roast.
- Scotus Roast!
- Woo hoo.
- Scotus Roast.
(audience clapping) - For a little bit of context, Meagan and Guy are both lawyers, kind of.
- Technically.
- They both went to law school.
So they're two most kind of a lawyer people I've ever met.
And they're both very smart and they both know a lot about the Supreme Court.
And so we thought in this turbulent time, let's take the Supreme Court to task once and for all by, yes, by pretending that the Supreme Court justices are on a Real Housewife style reality show and making up Real Housewife taglines for them.
This brings us to our game.
First of all, two part game.
First of all, can you please rank the current Supreme Court justices from best to worst based on how good of a real housewife they would be?
(Meagan laughing) And then we're gonna talk taglines.
- Okay, I mean, I think that Thomas is just a messy (beep).
(Lindy laughing) Like I don't think he was in control of himself.
- Yeah.
- But I think he would make good stories.
I think Sotomayor comes in second because she will serve the attitude and always be rolling her eyes at people.
Then I will say number three, Amy Coney Barrett 'cause she's mean.
- Yeah, I think that's right.
I think that's totally right.
- Should we do taglines?
- Let's do taglines.
- Let's do taglines.
- Okay.
- Okay.
Before we do this, I just wanna say the idea was Guy would write funny taglines and I would write funny taglines and Lindy would probably write some, too, but I couldn't think of anything funny.
So instead, all of my taglines are actual taglines from the Real Housewives franchise that I thought would work for the Supreme Court N=Justices.
- By the way, if you don't watch Real Housewives, and honestly I don't, but I still know about this cultural phenomenon because it's so important.
At the beginning in the opening credits of every Real Housewives franchise, every housewife has a little tagline that she says, and it's always sort of a, like a classic idiom that's been twisted to be sexual or be about capitalism or something.
(Meagan laughing) - Crystal Kung Minkoff is, "They say wisdom comes with age, but I'm proving them wrong," which always seemed like she was reading herself.
(laughing) - I know.
(laughing) Like another classic is, I think this is Jill Zarin, "I'm an acquired taste.
Don't like me?
Acquire some taste."
(laughing) (Guy laughing) - [Guy] Oh, I love Jill.
- See I don't know who that is, but I'm following.
- Yeah.
- So join me if you don't know what that is.
So we're gonna start with Chief Justice John Roberts, please, the dark lord himself.
- Okay, here's the line I think he should have.
"They say centrism isn't sexy and I'm proving it."
(hosts laughing) (audience laughing) - Okay, so this is a perfect Real Housewife tagline 'cause it's ambiguous.
- Yes.
- Are you saying that he's not a centrist or he is not sexy?
It could be either.
- Or both.
- I mean, it's both.
- We know it's both.
- But also he is the only conservative justice who is cosplaying centrism.
(laughing) - (laughing) Right.
Mine was and again, all of mine are actual Real Housewives taglines.
These are all from Real Housewives of New York, by the way, if you wanna catch up later.
Mine was, "I'm living the American Dream, one mistake at a time."
(laughing) - Oh, Meagan, I feel like, do you wanna quickly take 10 seconds to explain why John Roberts is actually bad?
Because I feel like he does- - Yes.
- He does win people over with his little act.
- He does.
So look, so the thing is, is this, there's this really strong desire, I think, among a lot of liberals to believe that the court really isn't as bad as it seems.
So I know there's this dream that maybe one day, oh, John Roberts is normal, right?
He'll wake up one day and do the right thing.
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Because before he was a Supreme Court Justice, he had dedicated his career as like a Reagan DOJ nominee to gutting the Voting Rights Act.
And he was never able to do it as a lawyer.
But he has in fact done it as a Supreme Court Justice.
He's not a good person.
I get his face is symmetrical.
(Guy chuckling) And he's like not as comically evil as Brett Kavanaugh.
But these are not good people.
They are not gonna wake up and be like, "Ah, damn, women should have stuff."
Like whoopsie, that's not happening.
So take that out of your mind.
They are not good people and they need to be replaced with people who do care about our democracy, who want to not gut the Voting Rights Act, but expand access to voting to everyone.
Because you really can draw a straight line from like John Roberts gutting the Voting Rights Act, to people not being able to hand out water in line for people who are trying to vote in Georgia.
- Okay, the only way to reform the court is to continue to wear down their resolve with sassy taglines!
- Yes!
- So up next, what do you have for the Silver Fox, Neil Gorsuch?
- Oh, "First I stole a Supreme Court seat.
Next I'll steal your heart."
(Meagan laughing) - Okay.
And I don't even wanna read mine.
That was so good.
Mine was, "I never feel guilty about being privileged."
(audience laughing) - Okay, up next we have our girl, Sonia, Sonia Sotomayor.
- "Don't be fooled by the tired size that I got.
I'm still Sonia, Sonia from the block."
(audience laughing) Just because these days in oral arguments, because she's the senior most of the liberal justices, usually before her first question, you just get a long sigh, because Sonia's tired, I think.
(laughing) - Fully head in hand.
- Yeah.
- God, why did I take this job?
- Oh, it's like if my mom was on the Supreme Court.
- (laughing) Yeah.
(audience laughing) I picked a nice one for her.
Well, I just wanna say there is somebody named Sonia on- - [Guy] Yes.
- Real Housewives of New York.
And so my tagline for Sonia is, "Sometimes Sonia has to go commando."
(laughing) - You'd never know under the (laughing).
- (laughing) You would never know.
It's a perfect setup.
- Okay, how about Alito, the worst?
- The worst.
- Is he the worst?
- Yes.
- Alito is the worst.
- [Meagan] Yeah.
- "Women controlling their own bodies, not on my watch."
- Boo!
(Lindy laughing) - Honestly, what I really wanted that to be was, "Indian Child Welfare, not on my watch."
Because for some reason, in addition to all of the ways that he is very evil, he personally has a beef with the Indian Child Welfare Act and has been tearing it apart.
And it's not a part of the law that we think about, but it impacts a very small, very marginalized community, a huge amount and we need to stop him.
- And that is Alito' key demo for right snatching.
He loves it.
Just for some background, again, Thomas isn't the only one accepting lavish trips and gifts.
Alito also took a private jet to Alaska where he caught an enormous salmon and drank an $8,000 bottle of wine.
So for him, I have chosen, "I have a taste for luxury and luxury has a taste for me."
(laughing) (Guy laughing) - Okay, how about Amy Coney Barrett?
- "I believe in the plain meaning of the law.
That's why I'm plain and mean."
(host and audience laughing) - You're so good at this!
I can't believe you didn't even write any of them down.
- I know!
- I was like, is this what it's like when your brain works normal?
- I briefly forgot my (indistinct) and I was scared.
(laughing) (host laughing) - Oh my God, you should be a professional comedy writer.
- Yeah, you should.
(laughing) (audience laughing) - You should get an Apple TV show.
(Guy laughing) (audience laughing) Mine was, "I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I'm pretty."
(Guy laughing) - Backstage, Meagan checked in with me and she was like, "Is this misogynist to use this for Amy Coney Barrett?
'I may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, but I'm pretty,' or whatever."
And I was like, "Who cares?"
(audience laughing) But it inspired a real question in my brain that I genuinely, I feel like I've asked you this a hundred times, but it's like she has to be smart on some level, right?
Like if you have, for instance, the Federalist Society shepherding you gently, can you just sort of cruise through law school as a bad person with a bad brain?
- Well, I don't know about law school.
I mean, the thing about law school is it's impossible to fail.
- Yeah.
- I mean the grades are curved and so you really have to be trying to fail law school.
But it's really easy to sail through a confirmation, yes.
She was in a situation where she didn't need any democratic votes and so she showed up with no notes and like that was, you know, sort of paraded in front of everyone.
Like, look what a brilliant mind she is.
She doesn't even need notes.
And I was like, "No, she doesn't need notes 'cause you're not gonna ask her any important questions."
Like, the questions were like, "What's it like carpooling your kids to basketball practice?"
You know, (beep) like that.
Like, who needs notes for that?
So like, you know?
- In the law, the people who are smart and innovative are hard to control.
You cannot, however much you may think of them as left or right, they're always going, even Scalia came down saying flag burning is protected by the First Amendment because he had a philosophy.
And these people don't so much have philosophies as marching orders.
- Exactly.
- You know?
- I just, I know that smart is subjective and kind of doesn't mean anything.
I just like, I get so hung up on this idea of like, someone is at the top of their field and they're doing things that are evil.
And I guess, I just like my brain short circuits 'cause I don't understand how you can get there and not have any perspective that causes you to pause.
- Well, and it's not like the Dobbs decision has some sort of language in it that makes you say like, "Oh."
- What a brilliant mind.
- Like they construed this in some sort of way.
It was just like, we have the votes to do this, we're going to do this.
- And they're insulated from any sort of consequence, right?
- Yeah.
- We don't elect Supreme Court Justices.
So they're like, well...
I was kind of joking about this before.
They used to be a little bit more subtle in the way that they would take away rights and they would move a lot more slowly.
They would start to slowly erode people's rights.
And this was true about abortion over time.
Like, it's not just like they, Dobbs didn't come out of nowhere.
You know, they had, there was this case in 1992, Casey, that was sort of like, "Well, we're just gonna dip a toe."
- [Guy] Yeah.
- "In putting restrictions on abortion access," and that sets them up to be able to take them away wholesale.
But you know, like John Roberts loves to go slower.
He doesn't want any of you paying attention to his little sneaky, nefarious deeds that he wants to achieve.
He wants to go very slow and he wants to kind of fly under the radar.
Alito and Thomas are like, "We're past that."
- Yeah.
- We're having a gas.
We're going on trips.
We're getting wine.
We're eating like fancy salmon from Alaska.
You know, like, and nobody can touch us.
We can do whatever we want and we'll never get in trouble.
So why not?
We'll just get rid of abortion.
We'll get rid of voting and what are you gonna do about it?
Like, they're just laughing at this point, you know?
- So the brain works, but there just is evil inside the heart, and so.
- Yes.
- Then.
- Yes.
- Here we are.
- The heart has been poisoned with evil.
- I wish one of them were an evil wizard in the way that Scalia was.
- Yeah.
- Scalia was like a smart evil wizard who could go toe-to-toe with Ginsburg at her best.
And you had thought there.
And I don't hear that in oral arguments anymore.
- Yeah, well they just don't have to do.
- Yeah.
- Who are they trying to impress?
The people that they impress already bought them a sweet vacay.
- Yeah.
- So, they're good.
(laughs) - God, it's like evil and boring, you know?
(Meagan laughing) - You know?
- You made it more boring?
- Cool.
- Okay.
Ketanji Brown Jackson?
- "Just because white male attorneys talk down to me doesn't mean I don't keep my head held high."
I'm sorry, I was listening to the Trump case as I was walking here and it was just straight up her raising a very good question and a lawyer just saying, "I don't see it that way."
And like, you wouldn't do that to anyone who wasn't the first Black woman on the Supreme Court.
- That's correct, yeah.
- The Supreme Court does not deserve her.
She's too good.
- Yeah.
That said, she's still new and sometimes her analogies are a little bit much, like sometimes she'll be like, "I have a very clever analogy."
And it's like, chill out Ketanji.
(hosts laughing) - My tagline for her is, "I've always had opinions, but now people know it."
(Guy laughing) - Aw.
- I gave her a cute one.
- That was cute.
- Yeah.
- All right, unfortunately, I hate to leave on this, but- - Dun dun, dun dun.
- Unfortunately we have to address, Clarence Thomas.
Get 'em!
- "You know, that I'm not woke because usually during oral arguments, I'm asleep."
(host laughing) (audience clapping) - Okay, mine is, when I found this tagline, my soul left my body.
Mine for Clarence Thomas is, "My yacht may have sailed, but my ship is coming in."
(Meagan and Guy laughing) - That's good.
- Thank you.
- Alright Meagan and Guy, we're almost outta time.
I wanna ask you one last question since this is the Ideas Festival.
If people have the idea that they would like to help reform the Supreme Court and maybe restore some of our collective future, what can people do?
Guy Branum?
- I would say voting.
And a lot of people are like, "Oh, moderates just say vote harder."
But the thing is, is like it is the one time that we have to get involved in this.
And when it comes to both the Supreme Court and having our presidents follow the law, the Senate matters more than just anything.
I know that you guys are in a state that safely elects Democratic senators, but anything you can do to call or influence the state's that do have close races, please do that.
And then the other thing is, is like, there's a really good podcast of Supreme Court cases on the Oyez Project, O-Y-E-Z.
And if there's something you care about, listen to a Supreme Court case.
They are one hour long.
They are very digestible.
There's a very good Andy Warhol case where they have to fight about whether Andy Warhol is real art or not.
- Hmm hmm.
- And knowing who these people are, because the nine of them hold your lives in their hands.
And knowing who they are gives you more context and power.
- Yeah, I agree.
(clapping) (audience clapping) The only thing I would add to that is, it is true that like, generally speaking, democratic officials want to hold the Supreme Court accountable more than Republican officials do.
But it's really important to like bring these things up.
Like if you're going to community meetings with your representative or senator, you should ask them about the court.
They never feel like they have to talk about it 'cause they never get asked about it.
They always think, "Oh, I should talk about the economy, I should talk about this, I should talk about that."
But the Supreme Court, anything you care about, just think of the thing that you care about the most.
The Supreme Court doesn't like it.
Like, so if you like, if you like clean air, if you like clean water, if you like, I don't know, having rights, if you like voting, the Supreme Court doesn't like any of that stuff.
So for officials to say, "Oh, well I'm just gonna talk about the economy and you know, people don't want to hear me talk about the Supreme Court."
That's not true 'cause the Supreme Court has like, right now, they have a veto authority over all that other stuff.
They've undermined workers' rights.
I don't even think the Supreme Court thinks Congress should be allowed to raise the minimum wage.
Like that's how dire of a situation that we're in.
So I would say like, make sure you're calling your representatives and your senators to like very specifically be like, do you support an ethics code for the Supreme Court, 'cause right now they don't have to follow one.
(audience and Guy clapping) Like do you support term limits?
Do you support, you know, should Supreme Court officials be banned from receiving luxurious gifts, you know?
Like those are the sorts of things you should be asking your representatives about.
And really critically, we have got to add seats to the Supreme Court.
I know a lot of people feel like- (Guy and audience clapping) "Oh, that'll never happen."
But it will only never happen unless we're pushing our people on the issue.
- There are so many things that we are held back from changing because they're in the Constitution.
- [Meagan] That's not one of them!
- That's not in the Constitution.
- [Meagan] That's right.
- We should change that.
- Yeah, exactly.
- All right.
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(audience clapping) We have been Text Me Back!, with Lindy, Meagan and Guy Branum.
Thank you all so much.
- Thank you!
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