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The Court Fight Over Bathroom Access in Mukwonago Schools
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2202 | 6m 50sVideo has Closed Captions
Parents of an transgender girl filed a lawsuit over a Mukwonago school bathroom policy.
After the Mukwonago Area School District required students use bathrooms according to their "original sex assigned at birth," the parents of an 11-year-old transgender girl filed a federal lawsuit.
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The Court Fight Over Bathroom Access in Mukwonago Schools
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2202 | 6m 50sVideo has Closed Captions
After the Mukwonago Area School District required students use bathrooms according to their "original sex assigned at birth," the parents of an 11-year-old transgender girl filed a federal lawsuit.
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TURNING TO EDUCATION, A FEDERAL JUDGE ISSUED A PRELIMINARY INJUNCTION AGAINST A MUKWONAGO AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT THIS WEEK FOR A POLICY THAT STATES STUDENTS CAN ONLY USE THE BATHROOM ACCORDING TO EACH STUDENT'S ORIGINAL SEX ASSIGNED AT BIRTH.
THE CATALYST FOR THE POLICY AROSE FROM AN 11-YEAR OLD TRANS GIRL IN THE DISTRICT AND A SUDDEN BACKLASH FROM OTHER PARENTS.
MARISA WOJCIK HAS THE STORY.
>> I GOT A PHONECALL FROM THE SCHOOL LETTING ME KNOW THAT THERE WAS PARENTS INQUIRING ABOUT MY CHILD.
>> THIS IS JANE DOE NUMBER TWO.
HER DAUGHTER, JANE DOE NUMBER ONE.
>> WANTING TO KNOW IF MY CHILD WAS A BOY, WANTING TO KNOW ABOUT THE GENITALIA IN MY CHILD'S PANTS, LIKE ASKING QUESTIONS THAT ARE REALLY INAPPROPRIATE.
>> THE COURT IS USING PSEUDONYM TO PREVENT FURTHER HARASSMENT.
HER CHILD IS AN 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL AT THE MUKWONAGO AREA SCHOOL DISTRICT.
HER DAUGHTER WAS ALSO ASSIGNED MALE AT BIRTH BUT STARTED IDENTIFYING AND LIVING AS A GIRL AT HOME SINCE THE AGE OF THREE.
>> IT'S JUST WHO SHE IS AND IT'S WHO SHE'S BEEN SINCE SHE WAS REALLY LITTLE AND SHE LIVED AS A GIRL AT HOME AND AT SCHOOL TRIED REALLY HARD TO JUST BE WHO EVERYONE WAS EXPECTING HER TO BE.
AND SHE CAME HOME FROM SCHOOL ONE DAY AND SAID, "I CAN'T DO THIS ANYMORE.
I CAN'T CONTINUE TO LIVE MY LIFE AS THIS BOY.
IT'S NOT WHO I AM "HERE AND NOW."
>> DESPITE YEARS OF HER DAUGHTER USING THE GIRLS BATHROOM AT SCHOOL, SUDDENLY IT WAS AN ISSUE.
A MAY SCHOOL BOARD MEETING TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE MATTER.
>> AND THEY MOVED IT FROM THE NORMAL AREA AT THE DISTRICT OFFICE TO THE HIGH SCHOOL GYMNASIUM.
THEY WERE EXPECTING A LOT OF PEOPLE TO SHOW UP, THEY CALLED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, PARENTS CAME IN AND THEY WERE ESSENTIALLY SAYING I'M NOT OKAY WITH THIS, YOU DON'T GET TO DO THIS, WHAT ABOUT MY KIDS.
>> DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A BOY AND A GIRL.
>> OUR DAUGHTER'S RIGHTS NEED TO BE VEHEMENTLY PROTECTED FROM THIS FALSE IDEOLOGY THAT CHILDREN CAN PICK THEIR GENDER.
I'M HERE TO SAY THAT THE FEMALE SEX BELONGS IN THE FEMALE BATHROOMS AND LOCKER ROOMS AND MALE IN THE MALE LOCKER ROOMS AND BATH ROOMS.
>> MY DAUGHTER DOES NOT VIOLATE YOUR RIGHTS.
NOTHING ABOUT MY DAUGHTER BEING IN THE BATHROOM, IN THE BUILDING, NOTHING VIOLATES YOUR CHILD'S RIGHTS BECAUSE MY CHILD EXISTS.
>> A MAY SCHOOL BOARD MEETING TOOK IMPLEMENT ON THE MATTER.
A JUNE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING PASSED A POLICY STATING STUDENTS MUST USE THE BATHROOM ACCORDING TO EACH STUDENT'S ORIGINAL SPACE-X ASSIGNED AT BIRTH.
>> I WAS AT THE BOARD MEETING AND LISTENING TO ALL OF THESE AND I JUST CRIED.
I COULD NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE DOING.
>> SHE SOUGHT SUPPORT FROM AN ATTORNEY WHO HAS BEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE.
IN WHEN I SAYS ACRE V KENOSHA UNIFIED SCHOOL DISTRICT, HE REPRESENTED A TRANS BOY WHO WAS PREVENTED FROM USING THE BOYS BATHROOM.
>> WE THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO TAKE ACTION TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT PRECEDENT WAS UPHELD AND THAT OUR CLIENT COULD EXERCISE THOSE RIGHTS THAT THE COURT HAS SAID SHE HAS.
>> THE DISTRICT CONTENDS THE SAFETY AND PRIVACY OF THE OTHER STUDENTS USING THE BATHROOM JUSTIFIES THEIR POLICY.
>> AB ASTRONAUT ABSTRACT IDEA TY ELSE'S PRIVACY IS BEING THREATENED IS NOT ENOUGH TO JUSTIFY THAT.
WE ALL USE THE BATHROOMS EVERY DAY IN PUBLIC PLACES WHERE THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BATHROOM AND THAT'S YOUR PRIVACY INTEREST THAT WE HAVE ISN'T MORE OR LESS IMPLICATED BASED ON THE PERSON IN THE STALL NEXTDOOR BEING TRANSGENDER.
THERE HASN'T BEEN ANY THREAT TO THE SAFETY OR PRIVACY OF OTHER STUDENTS.
THE THREAT HAS BEEN TO THE SAFETY AND PRIVACY OF OUR CLIENT.
>> IN A BRIEF, THE DISTRICT ARGUES THE MOTHER AND DAUGHTER HAVE NOT AVAILED THEMSELVES OF LESS DRASTIC SOLUTIONS TO EFFECTIVELY ADDRESS THE PRESENT SITUATION.
THEY STATED BOARD POLICY 5514 REQUIRES A TEAM OF DISTRICT STAFF TO CONSIDER EXCEPTIONS OR ACCOMMODATIONS TO THIS REQUIREMENT ON A CASE-BY-CASE BASIS.
THE ALTERNATIVE TO THE STUDENT HAVING TO USE THE BOYS BATHROOM WAS OFFERING A GENDER NEUTRAL BATHROOM.
>> OFFERING A GENDER NEUTRAL ALTERNATIVE IF YOU AGREE REQUIRING THE TRANS STUDENT TO USE IT OR USE A BATHROOM IS NOT CORRESPONDING TO THEIR GENDER IDENTITY DOESN'T MAKE THE POLICY NON-DISCRIMINATORY.
YOU'RE STILL REQUIRING SOMETHING OF THAT TRANSGENDER STUDENT THAT YOU AREN'T REQUIRING OF ANY OTHER STUDENT.
>> YOU'RE ENDANGERING A CHILD EVERY TIME YOU TRY TO FORCE HER INTO A DIFFERENT BATHROOM BECAUSE YOU'RE SINGING HER OUT.
YOU'RE TELLING EVERYBODY SHE'S DIFFERENT, AND THAT PUTS A TARGET ON HER BACK.
>> THE DISTRICT ALSO SAID THEY VEE IN THE MEANTIMELY REFUTE ANY DISCRIMINATION AND STRONGLY DISAGREE WITH THE BASELESS ASSERTION THAT THE POLICY WILL CAUSE HER IRREPARABLY RAHM EMMANUEL HARM.
HARM.
>> OUR CHILD HAS BEEN FACING HARASSMENT AT SCHOOL SINCE ALL OF THIS STARTED AT SPRING.
>> SHE HAS THIS CONSTANT WORRY OF WHO IS WATCHING ME TODAY, WHO IS GOING TO FOLLOW ME TODAY.
SHE'S VOICED CONCERN ABOUT IF KIDS ARE GOING TO HURT HER IN THE BATHROOM.
SHE'S CONCERNED ABOUT PEOPLE PULLING HER OUT OF A REST ROOM OR PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, PUSHING HER INTO THE REST ROOM SHE SHOULDN'T BE USING.
>> ON JULY 11, FEDERAL JUDGE LYNN ADELMAN RULED IN FAVOR OF THE STUDENT AND GRANTED AN INJUNCTION AGAINST THE SCHOOL POLICY.
THE DISTRICTS DECLINED TO BE INTERVIEWED.
IN A STATEMENT, THEY WROTE, THE DISTRICT WILL CONTINUE TO DEFEND OUR POLICY AND MOVE FORWARD WITH AN APPEAL OF THIS INJUNCTION.
>> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A KID.
>> SHE'S AN AMAZING KID.
SHE IS FUNNY AND SHE'S SILLY AND SHE LIKES TO DRAW.
SHE'S INQUISITIVE AND SHE LOVES SCIENCE AND SHE'S REALLY INVOLVED IN S.T.E.M.
THINGS.
SHE LIKES DOING GIRLY THINGS AND GLITTER AND SEQUINS AND SHE'S JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER 11-YEAR OLD KID, EVERY OTHER 11-YEAR-OLD GIRL OUT THERE.
>> REPORTING FROM MUKWONAGO, I'M
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