- [Announcer] Wellsboro, with its beautiful gas street lights, is the county seat of Tioga County.

Near Wellsboro is a landmark that shares a name with a landmark out in Arizona.

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Here's the host of "The Pennsylvania Game," Lynn Hinds.

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Thank you very much.

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Well thank you very much, studio audience, and hi to you at home.

We've got a sparkling set of questions today that are designed to stump our sparkling panel.

Let us introduce our panel.

He's an author and a teacher.

He's Bernie Asbell!

(audience applauds) And she is a newspaper editor from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania.

Let's welcome Cate Barron.

(audience applauds) And she's a radio journalist from Philadelphia, Mellany Lenz.

(audience applauds) And we're gonna go out of doors and up to the northern part of the state for a famous landmark and see if you know which one we're talking about.

- [Announcer] Up in Southern Tioga County near community of Wellsboro with its beautiful gas street lights is a landmark that shares its name with a landmark in the state of Arizona.

Is our landmark called the Pennsylvania, A, Grand Canyon.

B, Painted Desert.

C, Petrified Forest.

Or D, Meteor Crater?

- Well, there are four choices.

All you have to decide Bernie is which one that has the same name as the one out in the state of Arizona, you ever been to Arizona?

- Yes, I've been to Arizona.

I've also been to the Painted Desert.

- Uh huh.

- And the Petrified Forest.

- Uh huh.

- I've also been to the Grand Canyon.

So I'm gonna go with that.

- So you're going with the Grand Pennsylvania Grand Canyon.

Cate, what do you say?

- I have to go with that.

- All right.

Going with the Grand Canyon, too.

Mellany?

Are you convinced?

- Yeah, I've been to the Grand Canyon, Pennsylvania.

I'd like to go to Arizona someday.

- You haven't been to Arizona's- - No.

- But you've been to Pennsylvania's Grand Canyon.

- Yeah.

- Sort of the story of your life, huh, Mel?

What is the correct answer?

Are they all right?

- [Announcer] The answer is A, Pennsylvania's Grand Canyon.

The little Grand Canyon is about 50 miles long, 1,000 feet deep, about one fourth of the one in Arizona.

But it's one of the most scenic attractions in the eastern United States.

Geologists say that some of the rocks here are 350 million years old, but the canyon itself is a young 20,000 years.

Pine Creek flowed northeast until the last glacier dammed it up and sent it south to form Pine Creek Gorge.

Pennsylvania's Grand Canyon.

- Pine Creek Gorge, the other name for it.

That's the amazing thing to me, is that Pine Creek flowed in one direction until the glacier came in and then it changed, the river flowed the other way.

"Okay.

We can't go this way, we'll go that way."

Marvelous, marvelous natural history up there.

Marvelous natural history in Susquehanna County too, and some settlers who came there and named their town.

- [Announcer] The first settlers to arrive in Susquehanna County came to this village in the spring of 1787.

They have a famous bridge here named after the community.

Is this village called A, Niagara.

B, Golden Gate.

C, Brooklyn.

Or D, Triboro?

- Okay the village has a little bridge of its own that is the same name as the village that was founded in 1787.

What do they call their village and their bridge?

Do they call it Niagara, Golden Gate, Brooklyn, or Triboro, Cate Barron?

- I think I'm going to have to go on instinct with this, and I think Susquehanna County had a lot of Indians up there, and Niagara is the most Indian sounding name among the four of them.

So I'm gonna have to go with A.

- [Lynn] So they called their village Niagara.

Niagara.

Mellany Lenz?

- Well, I thought there were Brooklyn Indians too, but I think Niagara's a good guess.

- Do you?

- And I'm totally guessing, yes, on this one.

- I see.

You're going with Niagara also.

Bernie, surely you're not going to be?

- Out of old loyalties, I have to take the obvious.

Go with Brooklyn.

- The obv, Brook.

200 years ago, the settlers in Susquehanna County said, "Let's name our little village-" - Sure.

- "Brooklyn."

- [Bernie] Bridge and then they sold it to somebody.

- Let's see.

- [Announcer] The answer is C, Brooklyn.

But don't let anyone sell you the bridge here in Brooklyn, Pennsylvania.

Brooklyn has had some notable citizens.

You'll learn about some of them on future questions.

- But we're not gonna tell you now, right?

I thought that was the most marvelous thing.

That little bitty short bridge with a big sign on it that says "Brooklyn Bridge" and it's the village of Brooklyn in Susquehanna County.

- For sale.

- Isn't that marvelous?

Yeah.

Is that not marvelous?

Let's talk to Cate Barron a little bit.

Cate, I said you were a newspaper editor from Harrisburg.

You're the editor of the Sunday "Patriot News."

- Right, right, and we hit about 23 counties in the mid-state area.

So we get around.

- It's a big paper.

- Yeah.

180,000 circulation.

- But since you only edit the Sunday edition, you just have to work, what, Saturday's then?

- That's it.

One day a week.

It's a great job.

- It must be quite a task, because you have to look way ahead, some of the features that you work on.

- Well, people say I work for a weekly and that's about the case of it.

- Yeah.

- It's a lot of fun.

- And a lot of headache and work too.

Mellany Lenz, you grew up in what part of Pennsylvania?

- Carroll Town in Cambria County.

- Cambria County.

- Yeah.

- Which is Johnstown- - Johnstown area, you're right.

- [Lynn] And from there you went to school.

- [Mellany] At Saint Francis College in Loretto.

- Which is not terribly far away.

- No.

- From from there.

And you came up to Centre County and worked in radio and- - Newspaper.

- Newspapers.

And now you are.

- In Philadelphia working in a radio network, Pennsylvania Radio Network.

- [Lynn] And you feed, what, reports to the whole state?

- Right, news, five minute newscast, through satellite to radio stations across the state.

- That's great.

Bernie, what have you done lately?

- I've been listening to Pennsylvania Radio News.

- I see.

I see.

- Yeah.

- [Cate] And reading the Sunday "Patriot."

- [Lynn] And reading the Sunday "Patriot," right.

- So caught up on news here.

- "Patriot News."

You're a just a gallant man.

Have you ever been to, were you ever in Pittsburgh back in the late '30s where there was a big band entertaining?

What band was it though?

- [Announcer] The late 1930s.

Phil Davis of Radio Station WCAE visited a band that was having their first big success, packing in crowds at the ballroom of the William Penn Hotel.

He used a word to describe their style that gave their music a new name.

Was that name A, Swing.

B, Champagne.

C, Jazz.

Or D, Big Band?

- Phil Davis, WCAE Radio.

Now WTAE Radio, where our friend Lynn Cullen presently works, went down to hear this band at the William Penn in the late '30s, and he said, "Boy, that's," and he gave it a new name.

What kind of name did he call their music?

Mellany?

You get to guess first on this one.

- This is a real guess 'cause I wasn't around then.

So I'm gonna guess swing.

- Swing.

Late '30s and he said, "That music swings."

Okay.

Bernie?

- I won't admit being around then either.

- Uh huh.

- It wasn't champagne.

That was something else.

Jazz was already, jazz was rough.

Yeah, I think, I'd be happier if it were the early '30s.

- I was reading your books in the 1930s, Bernie.

- Were you really?

- Yeah, I really was.

Cate Barron.

(Bernie laughs) What do you say?

- Oh, I don't know.

- [Lynn] What kind name did he give this music?

- I'm debating between big band and swing and I think I'm gonna have to go with the majority.

- Okay, we're going three A's on this one.

I'll tell you that the leader of the band liked the new name and he sort of did some changes and kept the name.

He kept it in the act.

What was it?

- [Announcer] The answer is B, Champagne.

The original bubble machine is still there in the William Penn, a souvenir of the music that Phil Davis said had the sparkle and effervescence of champagne.

Lawrence Welk liked the idea, began calling his lead singer the Champagne Lady and gave a faster beat to a ballot he had written called, "You're My Home Sweet Home," renaming it "Bubbles in the Wine," his signature song.

Champagne music, born in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

- Well, we stumped 'em on that one.

Isn't that a marvelous thing?

The original champagne bubble machine with just a little wheel that went around and a fan behind it that blew bubbles.

So the champaign music of Lawrence Welk started in Pennsylvania.

I think that's a marvelous thing.

I think it's marvelous, too, 'cause the score is real close.

Cate and Mellany each have one and Bernie has two.

It's a close game.

Let's hear it for our panel.

(audience applauds) They deserve encouragement.

We have a mystery Pennsylvanian for you today and we'll give you three clues and see if you can guess, panel, the name of the mystery Pennsylvanian.

If you know on the first clue, write it on line one.

Here is clue number one.

Born in Hollidaysburg, but told her secrets in Hollywood.

Born in Hollidaysburg, but told her secrets in Hollywood.

If you know who that is, panel, just jot down her name.

If you don't, there'll be two more clues and it certainly will become apparent to you.

Medical firsts have been made in Pennsylvania.

We often think of them being made in places like Philadelphia or Pittsburgh.

But there was a medical first in Kane.

- [Announcer] In 1921, Dr. Evan O'Neill Kane, Chief Surgeon of Kane Summit Hospital in Kane, McKean County, performed an impressive operation.

It may have been a medical first.

Did Dr. Kane, A, do a C-section.

B, transplant a retina.

C, remove his own appendix.

Or D, reattach a finger.

- One of the fun things about doing this show is making up three wrong answers.

Now you just have to figure out which three I made up and you'll get the right one.

Dr. Evan Kane, 1921.

It was a medical first.

Did he do the first C-section?

Did he transplant the first retina?

Was he the first to remove his own appendix?

Or did he reattach a finger?

Bernie Asbell.

- Huh.

- Huh, he says.

- Yeah.

- Any one of those.

It's quite a medical feat for 1921.

- I got it down to two, but I will choose do a C-section.

- You're gonna do a C-section?

- Yeah, I think the '20s sound good for that.

- '21, the first C-section, Dr. Evan O'Neill Kane.

Chief Surgeon of Kane Summit Hospital.

McKean County.

Cate?

- Boy, those are really creative- - Creative answers, yes.

- Answers, great job.

I know he probably wasn't an ophthalmologist.

For some reason I say B, though.

I'm gonna go with transplant a retina.

- [Lynn] Okay, we've got him doing a C-section, transplanting a retina.

And Mellany Lenz?

- Boy, you're stumping me on this one.

- [Lynn] Oh good, I'm getting even for the last game you were on.

- I think removing his own appendix is pretty wild.

- Pretty wild.

- I'm gonna go with do a C-section.

- Yeah.

- Well, nobody had reattach a finger.

That's kind of wild, too, for 1921.

What did Dr. Kane do?

- [Announcer] The answer is C, remove his own appendix.

Dr. Kane did it to show that a local anesthesia was safer than ether.

Then in 1932, at age 70, Dr. Kane operated on his own hernia.

- Was heard to exclaim, "Whoops," just before, I know.

The big argument was, 'cause general anesthesia is more dangerous certainly than a local and he was arguing that anything you can do with general anesthesia, or most things you can do, with a local.

And to prove it, he had them, I can't say anesthetize, but he had 'em do that and he actually removed his own appendix.

Is that marvelous?

And then when he was 70, he'd operated on his own hernia.

Is that kind of wild?

Huh?

- His grandson may need a brain transplant.

(group laughs) - He did it successfully and got away with it.

I just think that's, I think he ought to have a monument to his courage, if not to his judgment.

- Aren't you glad he wasn't a psychiatrist?

(group laughs) - Let's go south for our next question down to Wilson College in the southern part of the state.

- [Announcer] Wilson College in Chambersburg was founded in 1869 by the efforts of two Presbyterian ministers who held the radical idea that women deserve the same scholarly education as men.

In 1887, after a struggle to survive, Wilson College instituted a compulsory class for all students.

Was it a class in A, Physical Education.

B, Latin.

C, Mathematics.

Or D, Cooking?

- Wilson College still an all women's school and doing real well, quality education down in Chambersburg.

But it started in 1869 with a radical idea for then that women somehow had brains and could learn stuff like men.

But in 1887, after a struggle to survive, they instituted a compulsory class.

And what would that have been in, Cate Barron?

- Boy, I should know this.

This is down on my neck of the woods.

It's a beautiful school, too.

- It is.

- I'm tied between A and D and I think I'm gonna shy away from the home ec part and go to physical education.

- Physical education.

All the women had to take a class in physical ed.

Mellany, what do you say?

Wilson College.

- I will also say physical education.

They probably didn't think staying home and cooking and cleaning wasn't enough activity for them.

- [Lynn] Bernard, one of the ardent feminists of our time.

- Well, I'm gonna show my best respects to that school to show that it's a place of superior 19th century education and have 'em teach Latin.

(Lynn speaks in Latin) That's right.

- Right.

(Lynn speaks in Latin) Which means, where's the fire?

But what's the answer?

- [Announcer] The answer is D, Cooking.

Courses in physical education were required from the beginning of Wilson.

And the women took four years of both Latin and math.

The newly required class in cooking was only for one week, just before graduation.

It was Wilson's only concession to the stereotypes about women.

Otherwise, Wilson students took courses every bit as rigorous as those in men's colleges.

- Yeah, that's the remarkable thing.

They had to take phys ed right from the very start.

They had to take Latin and they had to take math.

But after a few years they said, "Okay, we'll give in a little bit.

One week before the women graduate, they have to take one week of cooking," which is not a bad idea even for men.

- [Bernie] Do they still do it today?

- Well, I don't know if they, probably not, but it's still a good college and still quality liberal arts.

- I think they know how to dial a phone to get the pizza delivery.

- Well that's all you need to know in terms of cooking today.

Let's do another mystery Pennsylvanian clue.

See if we can clue you in as to who it is.

All right, mystery Pennsylvanian clue number two.

Her son, Bill, became a private investigator who worked for Perry Mason on TV.

Clue number one was born in Hollidaysburg, but told her secrets in Hollywood.

Clue number two, her son, Bill, became a private investigator who worked for Perry Mason on TV.

Who was that famous mystery Pennsylvanian?

Boy, I've never seen three more thoughtful faces in my life.

This is great.

There'll be another clue, hang on.

By the way, while our panel is thinking, if you wanna write to us, comment, an idea for a question, whatever, we appreciate hearing from you.

Our address is simply Wagner Annex, University Park, PA, 16802.

And of course, address it to "The Pennsylvania Game" and we will get it, okay?

Well let's see.

Jonathan Phillippe, student here at Penn State, who had a famous great-grandfather who did something renowned.

- [Announcer] Jonathan Phillippe is a Pennsylvanian who is proud of something his great-grandfather, Charles Phillippe, did in 1903.

He was the first to do this.

Was he first to, A, win a World Series game.

B, drive an auto coast to coast.

C, parachute from an airplane.

Or D, walk a high wire over Niagara Falls?

- I was sitting in my office one day at the School of Communication here at Penn State University when Jonathan Phillippe walked in and said, "My great-grandfather did something you might be interested in for 'The Pennsylvania Game,'" and gave me some pictures and some information and indeed I was interested.

1903, his great-grandfather, Charles Phillippe, was the first to do this.

1903, Mellany, is the clue.

But what was he first to do?

- That name Phillippe sounds very familiar to me.

And I'm connecting it with Niagara Falls in my brain.

So I'm guessing D. - Niagara didn't work for the name of Brooklyn, but it might work for- - Might work this time.

Right.

- Okay, we're up to Niagara Falls and walking with a high wire.

- I'm not sure Niagara Falls was there in 1903.

- [Lynn] Well, they turned it off at night, but it was there.

- But I know that nobody parachuted from an airplane in 1903.

It probably didn't drive, well, it's D for me.

- It is walk a high wire over.

We have our two end, men, Cate, say it's D. What do you say?

- I think I wanna buck the trend this time.

I'm going to go with B, just relying on a date to help me out on that.

- [Lynn] Drive an auto coast to coast.

- Yeah.

- Okay.

All right.

I will tell you that driving an auto coast to coast was done by a Pennsylvanian.

I will tell you also, if it'll help, that Mr. Phillippe's nickname was Deacon Phillippe.

What did he do?

- [Announcer] The answer is A, win a World Series game.

Deacon Phillippe pitched for the Pittsburgh Pirates for a dozen years, winning 186 games.

In 1903, he not only won the first World Series game ever played, beating the immortal Cy Young, but Deacon Phillippe won two more games during that first World Series.

- I think they played nine that first season.

The first World Series was played in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and against the Boston Pilgrims.

And the Pilgrims beat them, eventually.

But Deacon Phillippe, great-grandfather of our friend Jonathan, won the very first World Series game ever played.

Now, how about that?

You thought it was walking over Niagara Falls?

Ha!

Cate was closer.

Zoos!

Pennsylvania has a lot of zoos.

There is an unusual zoo up near Allenwood.

Let's look.

- [Announcer] Clyde Peeling developed a zoo near Allenwood, halfway between Lewisburg and Williamsport, in 1964.

It's a specialty zoo where visitors can experience touching the animals.

What kind of animals are featured in Clyde Peeling's zoo?

Are they A, Snakes.

B, Buffaloes.

C, Porcupines.

Or D, Skunks.

- I love that Pennsylvania pronunciation.

Porcupine.

Porcupines.

It's a zoo up near Allenwood.

1964, Clyde Peeling established it.

It's a specialty zoo where visitors can touch the animals.

What kind of animals would they be touching up there in Clyde Peeling's zoo, Bernie Asbell?

- The question is, what kind would they wanna be touching?

- [Lynn] Uh huh, and how carefully would they be touching, is another.

- I would say if they altered it in the right way, it might be the only place in the world would anybody wanna touch a skunk.

- [Lynn] Skunks are very soft and cuddly.

- Yeah.

- Little critters.

All right.

- Stripped.

- Specialty zoo, Cate Barron.

- It seems to me during the '72 flood when I was in the high school back in Lewistown, I remember a story, I might be spreading rumors, about how the flood hit up in that neck of the woods and the snakes got freed from Clyde Peeling's Reptile Land.

So I'm gonna go with A.

- Uh huh.

Okay, you didn't read anything about buffalo stampedes- - No.

- But you did read about snakes, okay.

There's one for snakes and one for skunks.

And Mellany, which critter are you going for?

- I have to go with the snakes, 'cause it seems to me I've seen a sign saying Wild Clyde's Reptile Land or something like that.

- Wild Clyde's Reptile Land.

(audience laughs) Where did you see this sign, Mellany?

Nevermind.

- Stick it in my head.

I, nevermind.

- I told you, when you move to Philadelphia, watch out for wild.

Nevermind.

What's the answer to this one?

- [Announcer] The answer is A, snakes.

Clyde Peeling's Reptile Land has been educating people about all sorts of reptiles for 25 years.

Crocodiles, lizards, tortoises, and some remarkable snakes.

It's really quite an experience.

Clyde Peeling, his staff, and family seen here experiencing a 17 foot long reticulated python are dedicated to teaching about reptiles.

That's Diane Peeling and the boys, Chad, Elliot, and Whitney holding the last eight feet of snake.

So if you have a morbid fear of snakes you'd like to conquer or just prefer to look and not touch, stop by Reptile Land in Allenwood, Pennsylvania.

- Constrictor snakes are kind of fun.

They don't bite and they're really cuddly, but if you've ever had, I've had one around my neck about that big around, and they just drain all the heat out of your body, because they're cold blooded.

- Yeah.

- And in a matter of about a minute, your neck is frozen if you have one, wearing it as a boa, so to speak.

But I must tell you right now that the last question's coming up, and this is kind of crucial, because the score is two to two to two.

So this will break the tie.

And it goes back to American history, into one of the most famous areas in Pennsylvania or in the nation, back to the Civil War.

- [Announcer] This monument, built in 1912, is the Gettysburg Address Memorial.

It's the only monument in the world dedicated to a speech.

We know the speech was short, but how many sentences does it have?

Is the number A, 10.

B, 16.

C, 22.

Or D, 38?

- Fourscore and seven years ago, but how many sentences are in the Gettysburg Address?

That is the question.

And Cate Baron, it's up to you to start.

- Ooh.

- [Lynn] It's sort of poetic justice that you have to guess first because there was a reporter from Harrisburg that said, "This trivial speech is best forgotten."

- That's right.

That's right.

And they bring that up every time we have some kind of an anniversary, which of course happened this summer.

- Yeah, so what do you Harrisburg newspaper people know anyhow, right?

But lots of people miss the significance of this.

Because it was so short.

But how short was it?

10 sentences, 16, 22, or 38?

Cate?

- I think it was really, really short.

I'm going to go with A.

- Only 10 sentences, okay.

- 10 sentences, yeah.

- Mellany?

- They were long.

They were long, but.

- Long sentences, but there were only 10 of them, Mellany?

- This is the Gettysburg Address.

- [Lynn] Yes.

The Gettysburg Address.

- Well, Abraham Lincoln was the 16th president?

- Yes, he was.

- I'm gonna guess 16.

- [Lynn] You're showing off your knowledge.

Bernie, did you know that Abe Lincoln was our 16th president?

- (laughs) Yeah, but you know, about these experts from Harrisburg, there was a, Walter Lippmann, who was the most famous political commentator in his day- - Yes.

- 1932, said this candidate for president, Franklin D. Roosevelt, is an amiable fellow who will never do anybody any harm.

- Never amount to anything.

- Never amount to anything.

- [Lynn] And certainly never get reelected.

- So much for political expertise, but this expert will vote 16.

- Mm-hmm.

There's no 15 up there, of course.

The 15th president, Mellany, was whom?

The only president from Pennsylvania, Mellany, James Buchanan.

How many sentences- - I was gonna guess that.

- In the Gettysburg Address.

- [Announcer] The answer is A, just 10.

Lincoln took all of about three minutes to give the speech.

He wrote at least five copies.

The first one done at the White House had 239 words.

The last had 272 words.

Some reporters called the speech silly and in bad taste.

Edward Everett, the Speaker who had said some of the same things as Lincoln, but took two hours to do it, recognized a good speech when he heard one.

He asked Lincoln for a copy.

- That's the thing you gotta applaud about Edward Everett.

He did say many of the same things that Lincoln said, but he took, you know, like two hours to do it.

But he recognized how great the speech was and he asked Lincoln for a copy and took a handwritten copy.

And his ancestors undoubtedly sold that and so they're probably wealthy today.

Okay, clue number three for our mystery Pennsylvanian.

Let's see if our panel gets this one.

Known for her hats and her feuds, especially the one with Louella.

That's the third clue.

Known for her hats and her feuds, especially the one with Louella.

You remember the other two clues?

She was born in Hollidaysburg, but told her secrets in Hollywood.

And clue number two was her son, Bill, became a private investigator who worked for Perry Mason on TV.

And then finally, known for her hats and her feuds, especially the one with Louella.

And Mellany, we're gonna let you go first.

Any idea at all?

- This is totally, totally off the wall.

- [Lynn] Even now, she's making a good guess.

- Even now.

And I know- - Mae West!

Very good guess.

(audience laughs) Cate, any idea at all?

- Oh, she was in newspaper.

She was a colonist.

All I can think of is Louella.

- Uh huh, well, that's obviously not right since we put that in the clue.

Bernie, what sayest thou?

- All Hedda Hopper could think of was Louella, too.

- Oh, that's right.

- Hedda Hopper!

- Oh, Hedda Hopper.

- I wonder if it could be.

Born in Hollidaysburg, you supposed, that Hedda Hopper.

Well, let's, who is.

- [Announcer] Hedda Hopper was born in Hollidaysburg in 1890.

Her name was Elda Furry until she married matinee idol, DeWolf Hopper.

Hedda appeared in scores of films, but her real career started with a radio show in 1936.

For 30 years, Hedda mingled with the stars and gossiped to the public.

Her rivalry with Louella Parsons was notorious, as was her voluminous collection of hats.

Hedda Hopper, a famous Pennsylvanian.

- Hedda Hopper, indeed.

And of course, she fits all the clues because she was born in Hollidaysburg.

Probably not many people know that.

And did tell her secrets in Hollywood.

Her son, William, played the part of, help me.

- Me, who guessed Mae West?

- On .

.

.

- "Perry Mason."

- That's a different panel.

- Yeah, yeah, Paul Drake.

Was Paul Drake on "Perry Mason" show on TV, right?

And of course her hats and her feuds.

Now I'll tell you that she was born, her name was Elda Furry.

You heard that.

DeWolf Hopper, who was a great matinee idol of the movies, had four wives before he married Elda Furry.

His first four wives were named Ella, Ida, Edna, and Nella.

So when Elda wanted to change her name, DeWolf said, "Hey, not a bad idea," right?

(audience laughs) That's something.

She said that a neurologist or a numerologist picked her new name.

Hedda died in 1966.

And rumor has it that her ashes were scattered around Altoona and Hollidaysburg from when she sprang.

- A great story.

- We miss the era of the gossip We don't have anything like the gossip columnist today.

- No, we don't.

- Walter Winchell.

- Did you hear the one about Mellany Lenz?

Mellany Lenz, no.

We gotta go.

We hope you've had a good time and we'll see you next time for "The Pennsylvania Game."

See you then.

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