- The counterpoint to the, how can you call for unity, if you move ahead with impeachment- - Yes.

- is how can you not move ahead with impeachment, when the just exited ex-president called essentially for a violent insurrection to keep him in power.

- Mm hm.

- And I think that's the question, anyone who thinks this is overreach should be asking themselves.

- That, in fact, you cannot, you cannot achieve unity until you resolve what just happened, until those people are punished.

Is that the case here, Peter?

- Yes, 'cause it was such a grotesque deviation from established American political norms.

So if you let it slide- - Mm hm.

- and effectively say, you know, this is okay.

You know, we can just leave this to the side, no big deal, you pave the way for repeats in the future, which is I think the last thing most of us want.

I don't think most Americans want political violence to become a regular feature of our civic life.

I hope not.

- Of course.