
The Week in Review: City Stands Down After Chauvin Verdict
4/23/2021 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Paris Schutz and guests discuss the week’s news.
The Chauvin verdict brings some relief to Chicago. Ald. Ed Burke’s alleged anti-Semitic statements. City Council back in person. And Superintendent David Brown addresses the media about shootings.
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The Week in Review: City Stands Down After Chauvin Verdict
4/23/2021 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
The Chauvin verdict brings some relief to Chicago. Ald. Ed Burke’s alleged anti-Semitic statements. City Council back in person. And Superintendent David Brown addresses the media about shootings.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" I'M PARIS SCHUTZ WE WILL BE JOINED BY OUR "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" GUESTS IN JUST A MOMENT BUT FIRST TOP STORIES.
RESERVATIONS ARE NO LONGER NEEDED AT MASS VACCINATION SITES WALK-UPS OPENED AT UNITED CENTER AND CHICAGO STATE UNIVERSITY.
THE CITY SAYS IT'S RECEIVED ENOUGH SHOTS FROM THE GOVERNMENT TO BE ABLE TO SERVE ALL ADULTS 16 AND OVER WITHOUT MUCH OF A DELAY.
THE CITY RESIDENTS CAN MAKE APPOINTMENTS THROUGH THE ZocDoc WEBSITE.
>> AND STATE PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS ANNOUNCE 3300 NEW COVID CASES IN THE LAST 24 HOURS AND 22 DEATHS.
THAT MAKES FOR A TOTAL OF 1.3 MILLION CASES INCLUDING 21,777 DEATHS.
AND MORE THAN 28% OF THE STATE'S POPULATION IS FULLY VACCINATED TO THIS POINT.
THE OBAMA FOUNDATION RELEASES NEW DESIGN DETAILS FOR THE PLANNED OBAMA CENTER IN JACKSON PARK.
THE FOUNDATION RELEASED THIS RENDERING SHOWING SOME OF THE LANDSCAPE DESIGN AND THE FOUNDATION SAYS IT WILL WORK WITH THE BOTANIC GARDEN TO CREATE A MODEL OF SUSTAINABILITY AND STRENGTHEN THE ECOLOGICAL HEALTH OF THE SITE.
IT CALLS FOR GARDENS AND MUCH MORE.
YOU CAN READ MORE ABOUT THE PLANS ON OUR WEBSITE.
AS MORE LAWSUITS HAVE BEEN THREATENED TO DELAY THE GROUNDBREAKING OF THE OBAMA CENTER.
>> AND NOW, ON TO OUR "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" PANEL.
JOINING US ARE JOAN ESPOSITO OF WCPT820, LAURA WASHINGTON OF THE "SUN-TIMES" AND ABC7 NEWS, GREG HINZ OF CRAIN'S CHICAGO BUSINESS AND WILL JONES OF ABC7 NEWS.
>> LET'S START WITH THE CHAUVIN VERDICT QUICKLY RETURNED VERDICT, GILLLY ON ALL THREE CHARGES.
WILL JONES WHAT WAS WHAT YOU HEARD?
>> I SAW PEOPLE PASSING ON THE STREET AND MANY PEOPLE WERE RELIEVED.
ONE WOMAN HAD A LOT OF THINGS IN MIND AND PEOPLE HAD STOMACH PAIN WONDERING WHAT THE VERDICT WILL BE AND WHAT IT WILL MEAN FOR SOCIETY.
PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER JUSTICE WILL GET SERVED DID GEORGE FLOYD'S MATTER AND WILL HE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE WHEN THEY DO SOMETHING WRONG AND PEOPLE WERE WORRIED ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS FOR THEIR COMMUNITIES.
A WOMAN PASSING BY SHE WAS WORRIED ABOUT HER WALGREENS WHETHER IT WAS GOING TO BE UNREST IF THE VERDICT CAME OUT THE OTHER WAY.
A LOT OF DIFFERENT EMOTIONS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE RELIEVED THIS WAS THE OUTCOME OF THAT TRIAL.
>> AND JOAN ESPOSITO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED LAST SUMMERTIME TIME MAYOR LIGHTFOOT CALLS ON PRITZKER TO BRING IN THE NATIONAL GUARD.
DO YOU THINK THE CITY AVOIDED ANOTHER SITUATION LIKE LAST SUMMER WITH THE VERDICT?
>> ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION.
WE ACTUALLY HAD ONE OF THE GUYS WHO WORKS AT OUR STATION JERRY RILES WE HAD HIM IN HIS CAR DRIVING AROUND EVANSTON, THE MAG MILE, SOUTH LOOP AS SOON AS THE VERDICT WAS OUT THERE JUST TO SEE AND HE SAW NO NATIONAL GUARD PRESENCE SO WHEREVER THEY WERE THEY WERE BEING HELD SOMEWHERE WHERE WE COULDN'T SEE THEM AND A SLIGHTLY INCREASED POLICE PRESENCE.
NO DEMONSTRATORS.
NO RALLYING, NO NOTHING.
IT WAS -- JERRY'S WORDS IT WAS AS PEACEFUL AS A NORMAL DAY IN THE DOWNTOWN NEAR NORTH, NEAR SOUTH AREA.
AND THAT WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN THE CASE HAD THE VERDICT GONE THE OTHER WAY.
>> AND MAYOR LIGHTFOOT PERHAPS HEARING THAT CRITICISM THAT HAVING THE NATIONAL GUARD CONTRIBUTED TO SOME SORT OF FEELING OF A MILITARIZED STATE AND SHE DID GET PUSHBACK.
LAURA WASHINGTON IS THERE A FEELING OF JUSTICE SERVED COULD BE UNDONE WITH AN APPEAL RULING THAT GOES THE OTHER WAY OR SENTENCING THAT ISN'T AS LONG AS SOME FOLKS MIGHT LIKE?
>> WELL, THERE'S ALWAYS THAT CONCERN.
I THINK IT'S WAY TOO EARLY TO TELL DEFENSE TRY TO MOUNT SEVERAL ARGUMENTS ABOUT THE ISSUE OF BIAS AND FEAR INSTILLED IN THE JURY BECAUSE OF THE TREPIDATION AROUND CIVIL UNREST.
A BIGGER ISSUE IS HOW IMPORTANT IS THIS CASE?
IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO THE FLOYD FAMILY AND WHERE WE ARE IN TERMS OF OUR RACIAL DEBATE AND DISCUSSIONS.
BUT THIS IS A RARE CONVICTION THERE'S BEEN ONE OTHER CONVICTION IN MINNESOTA LIKE THIS OF AN ON DUTY POLICE OFFICER.
AND HERE IN CHICAGO WE RARELY SEE THESE CONVICTIONS IN POLICE ABUSE CASES THERE'S BEEN CASE AFTER CASE AFTER CASE FOR DECADES OF ALLEGED POLICE ABUSE.
I THINK PEOPLE ARE WONDERING IS THIS GOING TO BE A RARE EVENT THAT MAY NOT BE REPEATED?
AND WHAT DOES IT SAY ABOUT OUR DRIVE TOWARDS POLICE REFORM AND A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY IT DOESN'T SAY A LOT.
>> IN CHICAGO THERE WAS THE CONVICTION OF JASON VAN DYKE, A LESSER CHARGE, SECOND DEGREE MURDER PLUS THE AGGRAVATED BATTERY.
THE OTHER BOMBSHELL DURING THE FIRST CITY COUNCIL FEDERAL PROSECUTORS DROPPED THE FILING AGAINST ALDERMAN ED BURKE.
ACCORDING TO PROSECUTORS BURKE MADE ANTSY TESTIMONY PARTICULAR REMARKS ON SECRET RECORDINGS SAYING QUOTE WELL, YOU KNOW AS WELL I DO, JEWS ARE JEWS AND THEY WILL DEAL WITH JEWS TO THE EXCLUSION OF EVERYBODY ELSE UNLESS THERE IS A REASON TO USE A CHRISTIAN.
GREG HINZ IS ANYONE SURPRISED THAT THE ALDERMAN WOULD MAKE THIS REMARK GIVEN HIS HISTORY FOLKS WHO MIGHT HAVE SEEN HIM DURING COUNCIL WARS?
>> YOU WOULD LIKE TO THINK A CHICAGO ALDERMAN WOULD NOT SAY SUCH THINGS.
HE DID.
IT'S ON THE RECORD.
THE ONLY SURPRISE IN A WAY IS FRANKLY IT IS NOT A SURPRISE IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTINUE TO PLAY HARDBALL.
THEY COULD HAVE RELEASED MOST OF THIS INFORMATION WITHOUT RELEASING THAT PARTICULAR QUOTE BUT EVERYBODY PICKED IT UP AND RAN WITH IT BIG TIME.
MILLIONS OF CHICAGOANS ARE READING AND HEARING THAT ED BURKE IS NOT ONLY A COOKED PAUL BUT A BIGOT.
THAT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR THEM TO CONVICT HIM BUT THAT'S HOW THE FEDS PLAY THE GAME.
>> AND WAS SURPRISING THAT THE FEDS KNOW WHAT IS GOING TO PLAY IN THE MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC AND THESE COMMENTS WILL GET PICKED UP AND THEY WERE BY POLITICIANS AS WELL.
LORI LIGHTFOOT, THE MAYOR, HAD HARSH WORDS FOR HIM AFTER SHE HEARD ABOUT THESE COMMENTS TAKE A LOOK.
>> HE'S ENTITLED TO A PRESUMPTION OF INNOCENCE AS ALL CHARGED DEFENDANTS ARE.
BUT I CALLED ON HIM TO RESIGN.
HE HAS OBVIOUSLY NOT DONE THAT BUT I THINK THERE'S NO PLACE IN PUBLIC LIFE FOR SOMEBODY LIKE HIM.
>> JOAN ESPOSITO ARE THEY MATERIAL TO THE CASE?
OR JUST TO GET THE MEDIA TRAIN GOING AND THE CHATTER GOING AND TO PAINT BURQAS A CERTAIN GUY?
>> WITH ALL THE CHARGES THAT HE IS FACING, OR THAT ARE BEING SWIRLED AROUND, THE FACT THAT HE IS A POTENTIALLY A CRAPPY HUMAN BEING TO ME IS THE LEAST OF IT.
I THINK GREG HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
YOU WANT TO BE SURE THIS IS GOING TO GET COVERAGE THROW IN SOMETHING JUICEY.
DOES IT HAVE RELEVANCE?
THE PROSECUTORS TRY TO ARGUE IT HAS BEARING ON THE CASE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW, A CRAPPY HUMAN BEING DOES CRAPPY THINGS.
YOU FIGURE IT OUT.
I THINK IT WAS DONE TO GET MEDIA ATTENTION AND IT SUCCEEDED.
AND TO ME, ANYBODY WHO WAS SHOCKED BY THAT COMMENT HASN'T BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.
>> AND I WOULD BET THAT THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY ALSO TRY TO ARGUE TO GET THAT OUT OF THE TRIAL AND THEY MIGHT BE SUCCESSFUL BUT THE DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE BECAUSE THEY ARE OUT IN THE MEDIA AND THE PUBLIC ATMOSPHERE.
LAURA WASHINGTON WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS?
WHEN IS THE CASE GOING TO GO TO TRIAL?
>> ED BURKE IS TRYING TO DELAY IT AS MUCH AS HE POSSIBLY CAN.
AND THE PANDEMIC DELAYED IT WE ARE SO FAR BEHIND ON THE EXPECTATIONS THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE EARLY THIS YEAR.
AND THAT WHO KNOWS WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT ED BURKE WAS DULY ELECTED BY THE 14TH WARD VOTERS AND LORI LIGHTFOOT IS CALLING FOR HIM TO RESIGN AND STEP DOWN BEFORE HE WAS REELECTED WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING FOR MAYOR AND HE DIDN'T LISTEN AND HIS VOTERS DID NOT LISTEN.
SO LIKE IT OR NOT, AS POINTED OUT WE KNOW HIS HISTORY, HIS VOTERS HAVE KNOWN HIS HISTORY AND THEY CONTINUE TO SUPPORT HIM HE IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SERVE HIS WARD FOR AS LONG AS AT LEAST UNTIL HE IS IF HE IS CONVICTED UNTIL THEN HE WILL BE IN OFFICE.
>> AND WHAT ED BURKE SAID HE WILL ONLY LEAVE UNDER THREE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE PINE BOX, THE JURY BOX OR THE BALLOT BOX.
GREG HINZ YOU WERE GOING TO JUMP IN?
>> I CANNOT HELP BUT WONDERING IN HER HEART OF HEARTS LORI LIGHTFOOT DOESN'T WANT ED BURKE AS A NICE FOIL.
>> A PINATA.
>> I MEAN I CAME HERE BECAUSE THE BURKE SCANDAL AND MADIGAN SCANDAL WERE BREAKING OUT AT THE SAME TIME AND NOW SHE HAS ED BURKE BACK ON THE FRONT PAGE IT CANNOT POSSIBLY HURT HER.
>> SHE LOST DON THAT WAS HER -- DONALD TRUMP SHE CAPITALIZED ON FOR MOST OF HER FIRST TERM.
AND SHE LOST HIM NOW SHE NEEDS A GOOD REPLACE INTEREST.
>> AND DPREG GREG OTHER STUFF IN THIS RESPONSE AND IT WAS A RESPONSE TO DEFENSE ATTORNEYS MOTIONS TO VACATE MOST OF THE CHARGES.
ANYTHING ELSE THAT STOOD OUT?
THERE WAS ILLUSION TO ANOTHER INFORMANT OTHER THAN DANNY SOLIS.
>> THAT WOULD BE THE THING I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT.
IT LOOKS LIKE THE FEDS AND THE DEFENSE ATTORNEYS TRY TO FLUFF THIS OFF AND IF THERE'S NOTHING THERE.
THERE IS A LOT THERE.
IF I WERE EDDIE BURKE I WOULD TRY TO DELAY IT, TOO, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE THERE IS A LOT OF AMMUNITION.
>> DAVID BROWN TALKED ABOUT THE CRITICISM HE HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT OF SIGHT.
>> THAT IS A FAIR CRITICISM THAT I HAVE NOT -- DURING THE SUMMERS I DO A WEEKLY PRESS CONFERENCE I AM NOT THE KIND OF LEADER THAT CHASES THE CAMERA AND SAYS LOOK AT ME.
I'VE SEEN THOSE LEADERS.
AND I'M SURE YOU'VE HAD THOSE LEADERS HERE IN CHICAGO BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I AM.
>> A COUPLE STATEMENTS ELUDING TO THE PERSON WHO HAD PRECEDED HIM.
WILL JONES WAS IT A FAIR CRITICISM GIVEN THE GUN VIOLENCE AND THE TOLEDO SHOOTING THAT WE HAD NOT SEEN DAVID BROWN ADDRESS THE MEDIA?
>> IT IS A FAIR CRITICISM I'VE BEEN ON CRIME SCENES AND WONDERING WHERE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT.
THIS IS HIS FIRST YEAR ON THE JOB IT IS HIS JOB TO INTRODUCE HIMSELF TO THE PUBLIC AND HE HAS NOT DONE A GOOD JOB NOT BEEN VISIBLE AT ALL.
SUPERINTENDENTS WOULD BE OUT ON HIGH PROFILE CASES AND THAT SENDS THE MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC THAT YOU ARE FIGHTING HARD AND ON TOP OF THAT AND SENDS A MESSAGE TO THE CRIMINALS THAT YOU ARE ON TOP OF IT.
>> WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU?
WHEN YOU DON'T SEE HIM DOES IT TELL YOU HIS HEART IS NOT IN THE JOB?
WE DON'T KNOW THAT BUT WHAT DOES IT TELL YOU?
>> HONESTLY, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
THIS IS HIS FIRST YEAR.
HE'S NOT FROM CHICAGO AND IT'S HARD COMING TO CHICAGO AS AN OUTSIDER.
MAYBE HE IS UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE MEDIA SPOTLIGHT BUT IT WOULD BE DIFFERENT HE SAYS HE IS DOING THINGS BEHIND THE SCENES BUT IT'S NOT WORKING BECAUSE THE CRIME NUMBERS ARE OUT OF CONTROL.
>> THAT'S THE JOB.
IF YOU'RE CAMERA SHY THAT IS ALL WELL AND GOOD BUT YOU DON'T TAKE A HIGH PROFILE JOB LIKE THIS MANY THE WHEN WE HAD THE SHOOTING IN COLUMBUS, OHIO WE HEARD FROM THE MAYOR AND THE CHIEF OF POLICE.
WHEN WE HAD THE SHOOTING IN BROOKLYN CENTER WE HEARD FROM THE MAYOR AND THE POLICE CHIEF.
THE CHIEF OF POLICE IS IMPORTANT TO TELL PEOPLE HERE ARE THE FACTS AS WE KNOW THEM AND REENFORCE WHATEVER THE OUTCOME THIS IS A TRAGEDY AND REMEMBER WE FEEL IT, TOO.
THOSE ARE IMPORTANT MESSAGES AND IF HE DOESN'T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES TO DELIVER THEM HE IS IN THE WRONG JOB.
>> I AGREE 100% AS WILL POINTED OUT WHEN YOU ARE A NEWCOMER THIS IS A TOUGH UP TO TO COME INTO AND TAKE ON THE BIG JOB.
YOU DON'T KNOW CHICAGO, YOU DON'T KNOW THE COMMUNITIES AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS AND BEYOND THE VISUALS AND THE PERCEPTIONS YOU NEED TO BE BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS AND ALLIANCES WHEN THINGS GET TOUGH YOU HAVE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY WHO WILL COME AND STEP OUT FOR YOU.
EDDIE JOHNSON THERE IS MUCH TO CRITICISM BUT ONE OF THINGS YOU HEARD ABOUT IT HE WAS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND TALKED TO THE ACTIVISTS THEY HAD HIS CELLPHONE NUMBER AND HE WAS AVAILABLE.
ANY PUBLIC LEADER THE MAYOR OR THE SUPERINTENDENT WHETHER THE HEAD OF THE SCHOOLS YOU HAVE TO BE OUT THERE.
>> POLICE HAVE HAD A PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT.
GREG HINZ ONE OF THE THINGS BROWN DID SAY WAS THAT HIS PREDECESSOR INTERIM CHARLIE BECK FROM LA GOT IT WRONG AND BECK SAID NO LOOK AT BROWN'S NUMBERS I WILL DEFEND MY NUMBERS ALL DAY IN LA.
>> I THINK THERE IS A DISPUTE AMONGST POLICE PROFESSIONALS WHETHER YOU DO BEST TO PUT THE OFFICERS OUT IN LOCAL DISTRICTS WHERE THE COMMANDERS ON TOP OF THE SITUATION KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.
OR WHETHER IT'S GOOD TO HAVE CITYWIDE STRIKE UNITS THAT YOU CAN THROW INTO AREAS THAT ARE HOTSPOTS.
THERE IS AN ARGUMENT TO BE MADE BOTH WAYS.
BUT WILL WAS RIGHT.
UNLESS THE NUMBERS IMPROVE, UNLESS WE GET A HANDLE PARTICULARLY ON THE SHOOTING INCIDENTS AND THE CRIME AND THE MURDER THINGS, CHICAGO'S NOT GOING TO BE A HAPPY PLACE.
HALF THE TOWN FEELS SCARED.
THE OTHER HALF FEELS THE POLICE ARE OCCUPYING AN ARMY OF SORTS WE HAVE TO GET THROUGH THIS.
IF WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A CITY ON THE OTHER END.
>> WILL JONES IF YOU HAD TO ASSESS IT, DO YOU BELIEVE THAT SUPERINTENDENT BROWN'S JOB IS SAFE?
THE MAYOR SAID HE IS THE SUPERINTENDENT FOR TODAY AND FOR THE FUTURE.
>> THAT IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC SUPERINTENDENT BROWN WALK DOWN THEIR BLOCK THEY WOULDN'T RECOGNIZE HIM AND THAT IS A HUGE PROBLEM IF YOU ARE WORKING IN A CITY SERVING A CITY SUCH AS CHICAGO WHERE CRIME HAS BEEN A LONGSTANDING PROBLEM.
>> AND LET'S NOT FORGET ALL THE BRAIN DRAIN, THE DEPUTIES AND CHIEFS THAT HAVE RESIGNED OR RETIRED.
AND BACK TO TOLEDO, JOAN ESPOSITO, STATE'S ATTORNEY KIM FOXX IS INVESTIGATING A PROSECUTOR WHO INITIALLY SAID THAT TOLL HAD A GUN IN HIS HAND WHEN HE WAS SHOT THEN THEY HAD TO REVISE THAT STATEMENT WHEN THE VIDEO CAME OUT.
IS THIS A PROBLEMATIC SITUATION IN THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE?
>> MAYBE LAURA OR GREG OR WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT THIS.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY DID HE SAY THAT?
DID HE SEE THE FOOTAGE AND NOT SEE WHAT WE SAW?
OR WAS HE GOING ON THE WORD OF SOMEBODY ON THE SCENE?
WAS HE GOING ON THE WORD OF SOMEBODY WHO TALKED TO SOMEBODY ON THE SCENE?
WHERE DID THAT COME FROM I CAN'T IMAGINE HE INVENTED IT.
>> HE REPORTEDLY SAID THAT HE HAS BEEN PUT ON LEAVE WITH AN INVESTIGATION.
ONE OF THE BIG ISSUES IS THAT SUPPOSEDLY NO ONE ABOVE HIM REVIEWED THIS.
KIM FOXX -- >> UNTIL IT WAS OUT.
>> UNTIL -- >> HOW CAN THAT BE?
>> THAT IS PROFOUND THAT IN A HEATED CASE LIKE THIS WITH CASE WITH THIS LEVEL OF SCRUTINY KIM FOXX WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN ANY COMMENTARY.
>> LAURA IS RIGHT.
THERE IS A SIGNS OF THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DID NOT HANDLE THIS RIGHT, THE BOSS SHOULD HAVE KNOWN ABOUT IT YOU KNEW IT WOULD BE A HEATED CASE.
AND THE TEST IS WHAT DO WE GET WHEN THE INVESTIGATION IS OVER?
IS THE OFFICER INVOLVED CHARGED?
IS HE LET OFF?
DID HE HAVE ENOUGH REASON TO DO WHAT HE DID OR DIDN'T?
THERE'S STRONG OPINIONS OUT THERE.
AND THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS GOING TO HAVE TO WALK THE RIGHT LINE ON THAT ONE.
>> IT IS A COMPLICATED SITUATION CLEARLY IN THE FREEZE FRAME HIS HANDS ARE EMPTY.
BUT AGAIN, WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SAYS IT'S LESS THAN A SECOND BEFORE THE OFFICER ALLEGEDLY SEES THE GUN AND TOSSES ASIDE AND THROWS HIS HAND UP.
DOES THAT COMPLICATE THIS CASE?
>> OF COURSE.
AS A PROSECUTOR, YOU HAVE TO DECIDE DOES THAT SPLIT SECOND MAKE THE DIFFERENCE?
TECHNICALLY, HE DID NOT HAVE A GUN IN HIS HAND.
THEORETICALLY IT IS A SPLIT SECOND SO THE OFFICER WAS HE CAPABLE OF SEEING THAT?
AND THESE ARE THE DECISIONS THAT GREG IS REFERRING TO.
AND WHICHEVER SIDE THE PROSECUTION COMES DOWN ON A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE UNHAPPY ABOUT IT.
>> GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL VIDEO, LAURA YOU SAW THE VIDEO, YOU ALL SAW THE VIDEO, HOW DO I MAKE A STATEMENT OH, YEAH, HE HAD A GUN IN HIS HAND AT ONE POINT.
BUT THE IMPLICATION WAS THE GUN WAS IN HIS HAND WHEN THE SHOOTING TOOK PLACE.
HOW DOES A PROSECUTOR SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT THE VIDEO TO BACK IT UP?
HOW DOES A PROSECUTOR NOT GO TO KIM FOXX AND SAY BOSS YOU BETTER SEE THIS THIS CASE IS GOING TO BE TROUBLE.
HOW DOES THAT HAPPEN?
>> YOU CAN MAKE THAT TYPE OF MISTAKE WHEN YOU ARE DEALING WITH A SHOOTING DEATH INVOLVING A 13-YEAR-OLD BOY CONSIDERING THE CLIMATE INVOLVING POLICE IN THIS COUNTRY.
IT WAS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE AND IT'S UNCLEAR HOW THAT EVEN HAPPENED.
THAT IS A PRETTY IMPORTANT PART OF THE CASE IF SOMEONE IS HOLDING A GUN OR NOT WHEN AN OFFICER IS FIRING A GUN AT THEM.
AND THEY DIE.
>> ESPECIALLY GIVEN THE CRITICISM IN PAST YEARS THAT THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WOULD TAKE THE POLICE EXPLANATION REGARDLESS OF WHAT THE ACTUAL FACTS WERE.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE BATTLE OVER CIVILIAN POLICE OVERSIGHT IT BUBBLED OVER WHEN ALDERMAN BYRON SIGCHO-LOPEZ DEGRESSED FROM HONORING ADAM TOLEDO TO CALL FOR POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY.
>> I WILL GIVE YOU A BRIEF MOMENT TO SPEAK, BRIEF, SIR.
>> MAYOR LIGHTFOOT, WE HAVE A BILL RIGHT NOW AND YOU KNOW THIS VERY WELL, THE COMMUNITIES FOR PUBLIC SAFETY.
WE NEED TO PASS IT.
>> YOU ARE NOW OUT OF ORDER.
YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
ARE YOU OUT OF ORDER.
>> GOOD TO SEE SOME FOLKS BACK IN THE CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND THAT GRAVEL BANGED AND HEARING YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER.
THIS POLICE OVERSIGHT PROFESSIONAL HAS BEEN CIRCLING IN CITY COUNCIL AND IT HAS A MAJORITY OF SUPPORT.
THE MAYOR SAID WE ARE GOING TO HAVE OUR OWN PLAN BUT SHE HASN'T COME OUT WITH IT.
WHAT IS GOING ON THERE?
>> YOU WILL HAVE TO ASK THE MAYOR WHY SHE HASN'T COME OUT WITH HER PLAN.
SHE HAS SLOW TO PRODUCE IT.
LIKE THE ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD WHICH CAME OUT A FEW DAYS AGO.
THIS IS A QUESTION OF BALANCE.
IN THEORY DO YOU WANT OVERSIGHT OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ABSOLUTELY.
SHOULD PEOPLE BE HELD TO ACCOUNT?
NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.
BUT YOU WANT OFFICERS WHO DON'T THINK EVERYBODY IS LOOKING OVER THEIR SHOULDER ALL THE TIME.
YOU HAVE A MOTIVATED FORCE OR YOU HAVE A MOTIVATED UNCONTROLLED BUNCH OF CRIMINALS OUT THERE.
SO I THINK THE MAYOR IS PROBABLY TRYING TO DIVIDE THE BABY AND DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
BUT SHE NEEDS TO DO IT.
>> AND THE THING I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE CURRENT POLICE BOARD IS IMPOSSIBLE TO FIRE A POLICE OFFICER AS THE FORMER SUPERINTENDENTS HAVE SAID THE PROCESS IS CUMBERSOME AND THE FOP HAVE TIGHT RULES HOW WOULD THE FOP DEAL WITH A CIVILIAN BOARD THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A LOT MORE CRITICAL OF THE POLICE THAN THE CURRENT BOARD?
>> THE FOP IS NOT GOING TO DEAL WITH ANYTHING EXCEPT THE STATUS QUO.
IT IS A MAYOR POINTS OUT THEY ARE AGAINST ANYTHING THAT COMES OUT OF CITY HALL.
SO I THINK THAT'S THERE'S NO CONVERSATION TO BE HAD.
I THINK THE MAYOR'S POSITION THAT MANY ELECTED OFFICIALS GET INTO ONCE THEY BECOME ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SHE WAS FOR AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD AND MORE ACCOUNTABILITY AND NOW SHE IS IN A POSITION WHERE SHE REALIZES THE BUCK STOPS AT HER DESK AND SHE IS RELUCTANT TO GIVE UP THE POWER THAT SHE GOING TO HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE IF IT GOES IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
THAT IS WHAT SHE IS GRAPPLING WITH.
AND THE FOP WILL NOT COME TO AGREEMENT.
>> LAURA, YOU ARE RIGHT BUT SHE NEEDS TO MAKE SOMETHING.
WHEN YOU MAKE A CAMPAIGN PROMISE YOU HAVE TO DELIVER.
>> SHE WAS GOING TO DO IT IN THE FIRST 100 DAYS OF HER TERM.
THERE WAS GOING TO BE A CREATION WITH CIVILIAN OVERSIGHT IN SOME MANNER OF THE POLICE.
SHE PROMISED IT WOULD HAPPEN IN HER FIRST 100 DAYS.
>> THE OTHER PROBLEM IS HER STRENGTH HER SET OF SKILLS AND EXPERIENCES WERE AROUND POLICING.
SHE WAS HEAD OF THE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY TASK FORCE AND THE POLICE BOARD THIS IS AN AREA OF THE GOVERNMENT SHE KNOWS BETTER THAN ANY MAYOR WE'VE HAD AND YET SHE CAN'T SEEM -- >> A LOT OF THINGS SOUND GOOD ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
>> WILL JONES?
>> PARIS YOU READ MY MIND.
IT'S DIFFERENT TO BE A CANDIDATE AND ACTUALLY TO SERVE IN ELECTED OFFICE AND BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DECISIONS YOU MAKE.
>> AND IT'S CERTAINLY A 21-PERSON ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD COULD PRESENT HEADACHES BUREAUCRATICLY.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE ANNOUNCEMENT THAT RFP'S WILL GO OUT FOR A CHICAGO CASINO RESORT.
DO YOU THINK IT WILL LOOK LIKE CAESAR'S PALACE OR I THINK WAYNE NEWTON IS STILL AROUND?
>> I THINK TWO THINGS ABOUT A CASINO.
IF IT'S EVER GOING TO WORK IT HAS TO BE SOMEPLACE WHERE TOURISTS CAN EITHER WALK TO IT OR TAKE A VERY SHORT CAB RIDE TO IT.
SECOND OF ALL, I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE MANY YEARS BEFORE WE ALL GO TO THAT OPENING CEREMONY OF THE CHICAGO CASINO.
MANY YEARS.
>> WAYNE NEWTON SERANADING US.
>> WHO ARE THE FRONTRUNNERS?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
THE USUAL SUSPECTS ARE ALL NAMED I KEEP AN EYE ON NEIL BLUM'S COMPANY.
WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO GO.
I KEEP AN EYE ON MAYBE THE 37 PROPERTY ON SOUTH OF THE LOOP.
WE'RE GOING TO FIND OUT.
I THINK JOAN IS RIGHT.
THE MAYOR WANTS TO DO THIS IN A HURRY AND SHE EXPRESSED A RAPID TIMETABLE.
>> BEFORE REELECTION PERHAPS.
HAVING LIKE A RIBBON CUTTING.
>> BUT THERE IS NOT A QUESTION WHETHER CONVENTIONAL CASINOS PHYSICAL PLACES ARE GOING TO BE THE DRAW THAT THEY USED TO BE.
ONE COMPANY ANNOUNCED IT'S PULLING OUT OF VAGUE YOU HAVE ALL THE ELECTRONIC STUFF.
ANY OF US CAN PULL OUT OUR PHONE AND BET ON THE SPORTS GAME OF OUR CHOICE.
>> WE CAN GO TO THE TRUCK STOP IN ILLINOIS AND PLAY THE WHAT DO YOU CALL IT MACHINE?
>> HEY, WAYNE NEWTON WON'T BE THERE.
>> HOW ABOUT ELVIS?
>> THERE'S PLENTY OF ELVIS IMPERSONATORS.
WILL, EVERY ADULT CAN GET A WALK-UP VACCINE DOES CHICAGO HAVE THE SUPPLY IT NEEDS.
>> YES, THEY DO AND THE HARD PART IS WILL PEOPLE TAKE THE VACCINE?
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY EVEN THOUGH IT IS EASILY ACCESSIBLE THEY DO NOT WANT IT.
THE CITY IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE TO BATTLE THAT VACCINE HESITANCY IF THEY WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND GET US OUT OF THE PANDEMIC.
>> THE OUTREACH EFFORTS HAVE TO WRAP UP.
WE WILL LEAVE YOU CAN SWEET SOUNDS OF WAYNE NEWTON AS WE CLOSE-OUT THE SHOW.
THANKS TO JOAN ESPOSITO, LAURA WASHINGTON, GREG HINZ AND WILL JONES.
AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR FRIDAY NIGHT.
YOU CAN GET "CHICAGO TONIGHT" AND "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" STREAMED ON Facebook AND OUR WTTW.COM/NEWS.
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NOW FOR THE WEEK IN REVIEW I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WATCHING.
STAY HEALTHY AND SAFE AND GOOD NIGHT.
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