
The Week in Review: Full Reopening Nears with Warning
5/7/2021 | 27m 6sVideo has Closed Captions
Paris Schutz and guests discuss the week’s news.
Illinois is on track to open fully in June. Cultural institutions prepare for their return. High-profile political corruption cases heat up in court. And bombshell resignations both at CPS and COPA.
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The Week in Review: Full Reopening Nears with Warning
5/7/2021 | 27m 6sVideo has Closed Captions
Illinois is on track to open fully in June. Cultural institutions prepare for their return. High-profile political corruption cases heat up in court. And bombshell resignations both at CPS and COPA.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship[♪♪♪] >> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
WE WILL BE JOINED BY OUR "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" GUESTS IN JUST A MOMENT, FIRST SOME OF TODAY'S TOP STORIES.
THE PROPOSAL TO MOVE A CONTROVERSIAL SCRAP METAL RECYCLING PLANT TO THE SOUTHEAST SIDE IS OFFICIALLY ON HOLD.
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SAYS THE CITY WILL DELAY A PERMIT FOR GENERAL IRON TO MOVE FROM LINCOLN PARK TO A PROPOSED LOCATION ON THE SOUTHEAST SIDE.
THIS AFTER U.S. EPA ADMINISTRATOR SAYS THE RELOCATION RAISES QUOTE SIGNIFICANT CIVIL RIGHTS CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE AIR QUALITY FOR RESIDENTS MOSTLY BLACK AND LATINO THAT LIVE AROUND THE AREA.
REAGAN SAYS HE DOES NOT BELIEVE A PERMIT SHOULD GO FORWARD UNTIL A THOROUGH ASSESSMENT OF THE HEALTH IMPACTS CAN BE COMPLETED AND THERE'S MUCH MORE ON OUR WEBSITE.
>> THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT HONORS FOUR OFFICERS LOST IN THE LAST YEAR TO COVID-19.
POLICE SUPERINTENDENT DAVID BROWN WAS IN SPRINGFIELD YESTERDAY FOR A RESOLUTION HONORING THE FOUR OFFICERS AND THEIR FAMILIES THEY ARE SERGEANT CLIFF MARTIN, AND OFFICERS MARCO DE FRANCO, RONALD NEWMAN AND TITUS MOORE.
BROWN SPOKE ABOUT THE RESOLUTION SAYING THE DEPARTMENT WOULD NEVER FORGET THE SACRIFICE THOSE OFFERSERS MADE.
>> THESE OFFICERS ARE THE EXAMPLES OF THE GOOD COPS, THE GOOD COPS WHO MAKE THE ULTIMATE SACRIFICE WHO RAN TOWARD THE DANGERS OF COVID-19 WHEN MOST OF THE COUNTRY WAS QUARANTINING.
THESE OFFICERS CONTINUED TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF CHICAGO RISKING THEIR LIVES.
>> AND STATE HEALTH OFFICIALS REPORT 3300 NEW CASES OF COVID-19 IN THE LAST 24 HOURS.
INCLUDING 36 ADDITIONAL DEATHS.
THAT MAKES FOR A STATE-WIDE TOTAL OF 1.35 MILLION CASES AND 22,171 TOTAL DEATHS.
SO FAR MORE THAN 34% OF THE STATE'S POPULATION IS FULLY VACCINATED.
>> AND IT'S SAFE TO USE TAP WATER IN SOUTH SIDE COMMUNITIES.
ONE DAY AFTER A BOIL ORDER WAS PUT INTO PLACE.
CITY OFFICIALS ANNOUNCE THAT RESIDENTS OF BEVERLY MORGAN PARK AND MOUNT GREENWOOD NO LONGER HAVE TO BOIL THEIR WATER AFTER AN OUTAGE CUT POWER TO THE PUMPING STATION.
IT WAS PUT IN PLACE AND LASTED 20 HOURS.
CITY OFFICIALS SAY THEY ARE GOING TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION TO DETERMINE THE EXACT CAUSE OF THE OUTAGE AT THAT PUMPING STATION.
>> AND NOW TO OUR "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" PANEL JOINING US ARE CHUCK GOUDIE OF ABC7 CHICAGO.
GREG PRATT OF THE "CHICAGO TRIBUNE".
SARAH KARP OF WBEZ AND KIMBERLY EGONMWAN OF WVON.
LET'S GET RIGHT TO IT.
FIRST TO THE REOPEN PLANS.
GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER SAYS ILLINOIS WILL FULLY REOPEN BY JUNE 11TH BUT STRESSED IT COMES WITH CAVEATS.
INFECTION RATES NEED TO REMAIN LOW, PEOPLE SHOULD CONTINUE TO WEAR MASKS AND THE UNVACCINATED HAVE TO GET SHOTS.
>> METRICS THAT LOOK STRONG TODAY ARE FAR FROM A GUARANTEE HOW THINGS WILL LOOK A WEEK, TWO WEEKS, A MONTH FROM NOW.
WE SAW THAT LAST AUGUST.
AND AGAIN LAST MARCH.
>> SARAH KARP DO YOU THINK THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO MEET THE METRICS ESPECIALLY AS YOU SEE DEMAND FOR THE VACCINE FALLING OFF A LITTLE BIT?
>> WELL, I'M HOPEFUL.
I MEAN I'M POWERFUL THAT WE CAN INCREASE THE VACCINE RATE AND ALSO GET BACK TO NORMAL.
I KNOW THAT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOLS IS DEPENDING TO TRY TO GET MORE TRY TO GET MORE SHOTS TO THE KIDS AND THE YOUNGER KIDS ONCE IT IS APPROVED.
I THINK THAT WILL HELP WE HAVE SEEN THE INCREASE IN CASES BE AMONG YOUNG PEOPLE IF WE CAN MAKE SURE THE YOUNG PEOPLE ARE VACCINATED.
I THINK WE'RE GETTING THERE.
THE THING THAT I THINK IS INTERESTING EVEN THOUGH LIKE THE MASK MANDATE WAS LIFTED THROUGHOUT SIDE, THE CDC SAYS YOU DON'T NEED A MASK OUTSIDE IF YOU ARE FULLY VACCINATED I SEE TONS OF PEOPLE WEARING MASKS.
ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT MIGHT SAY WE CAN GET BACK TO NORMAL BUT PEOPLE ARE STILL SCARED I WONDER IF PEOPLE WILL BE HESITANT TO DO ALL THESE THINGS LIKE GO TO MUSIC FESTIVALS AND I KNOW I CERTAINLY SORT OF QUESTION WHEN PEOPLE GET TOO CLOSE EVEN THOUGH I'M FULLY VACCINATED AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE THAT.
>> AND YOU HAVE THE CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS LIKE RAVINA ANNOUNCING THEIR CONCERTS GETTING BACK TO REOPENING.
CHUCK GOUDIE I DON'T KNOW YOU WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU ARE NOT CHASING DOWN THE BAD GUYS BUT WILL WE SEE YOU OR THE FAMILY AT RAVINA THIS SUMMER OR MILLENIUM PARK TAKING IN A CONCERT OR WRIGLEY FIELD FOR A GAME?
>> WE DEFINITELY WOULD AND WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE.
MASKED UP, SOCIALLY DISTANCING.
I WAS ON AN AIRPLANE TO VISIT A DAUGHTER IN ATLANTA LAST MAY YOU KNOW, WHEN THE THERE WERE FEW FLIGHTS AND NOT MANY PEOPLE ON THE PLANES.
AND FELT SAFE DOING IT WITHIN THE PARAMETERS THAT WERE RECOMMENDED AT THAT TIME.
SO I THINK IF YOU'RE SMART ABOUT IT ESPECIALLY IF YOU RECEIVED BOTH VACCINES THAT THERE IS A WAY TO DO IT.
IF YOU ARE NOT COMFORTABLE BY ALL MEANS, DON'T.
>> KIMBERLY EGONMWAN DO YOU THINK THE CITY AND THE STATE COULD BE GETTING AHEAD ESPECIALLY AS YOU SEE DEMAND START TO FALL OFF, AND THESE VARIANTS CIRCULATING OUT THERE?
>> RIGHT.
THANK YOU, PARIS.
YOU KNOW I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH CHUCK ON THAT.
PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH WHAT THEY ARE COMFORTABLE WITH.
I THINK THE CITY AND THE STATE AND THE COUNTY WE HAVE TO PUT THEM IN THERE AS WELL A LARGE BODY OF GOVERNMENT THEY WANT TO SEE THE ECONOMY OPEN.
AND THEY WANT TO SEE PEOPLE WORKING AND THESE ARE ALL THINGS WE WANT.
HOWEVER, WE DO NOT KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH COVID-19.
WE'VE NEVER BEEN IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS BEFORE AND JUST AS FAST AS THE RATES GO DOWN THEY TEND TO GO BACK UP AGAIN.
I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE ON PEOPLE TO USE THEIR OWN COMMON SENSE AND THEIR GUT FEELING THEY HAVE TO DO WHAT IS COMFORTABLE FOR THEM SO WE CAN TRY TO GET BACK TO SOME NORMALCY BUT THE MASKS IS GOING TO BE HERE FOR A LONGTIME AND THAT MAY BE THE NEW NORMAL.
>> GREG PRATT, ANOTHER PART OF THE NEW NORMAL HERE, CONCERTS IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO FOR THOSE THAT DO HAVE PROOF OF VACCINATIONS STARTING ON MAY 22 IN HYDE PARK.
IS THIS A GOOD IDEA FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE?
OR ARE WE BUTTING UP ON CIVIL LIBERTIES TERRITORY AT ALL?
>> I THINK POLICYMAKERS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE A REALLY INTERESTING PROBLEM WHERE THEY WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN VACCINATED AND WHO WE GENERALLY BELIEVE AND THE SCIENCE SHOWS ARE NOW HEALTHY AND SAFE THEY WANT TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING RESEMBLING NORMAL BUT THEY DON'T WANT THE ANTI-VAXERS SCREW IT UP BECAUSE THEY REFUSE TO GET VACCINATED AND THEY START GETTING PEOPLE SICK AND SO YOU HAVE TO SEND MESSAGES TO PEOPLE IT'S TIME TO GO BACK TO NORMAL BUT YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR SHOT AND NEED YOUR WEAR YOUR MASK.
I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA TO DO THINGS THAT GET US BACK TO NORMAL BUT YOU HAVE TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE DO NEED TO GET PEOPLE VACCINATED AND THERE'S PEOPLE WHO ARE HOLDOUTS FOR POLITICAL REASONS AND SOCIAL REASONS AND CULTURAL REASONS.
AND THOSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HOLD US BACK IF WE ARE NOT CAREFUL.
SO THERE'S A LOT GOING ON.
BUT I DON'T ENVY THE POLICYMAKERS THAT HAVE TO DEAL WITH REALLY CONFLICTING URGENTS.
>> KIM?
>> THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY I DON'T THINK I WOULD USE THAT TERM ANTI-VAXERS FOR ALL THE PEOPLE NOT GETTING VACCINATED THAT IS ONE OF THE TERMS LIKE THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO GET VACCINATED THEY ARE LOONY TUNES.
PEOPLE ARE CONCERNS ABOUT A VACCINE THAT IS STILL UNDER EMERGENCY USAGE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND PFIZER IS JUST NOW APPLYING FOR IT TO BE AN OFFICIAL FDA APPROVED.
WE HAVE TO BE MORE RESPECTFUL.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS A VERY DISCONCERTING FOR SOME PEOPLE TO GET VACCINATED.
>> AND I WAS REFERRING TO TUCKER CARLSON GOING ON TV AND SCARE EVERYBODY.
WHICH IS WHAT I'M REFERRING TO.
>> OBVIOUSLY THAT IS A DIFFERENT KIND OF DEBATE AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS ARE TRYING TO USE THE CARROT APPROACH NOT THE STICK APPROACH TO AVOID CIVIL LIBERTIES QUESTIONS.
LET'S TALK ABOUT THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE KIM FOXX, CHUCK GOUDIE, THE OFFICE DID THIS INTERNAL REVIEW ABOUT THE MISSTATEMENTS ONE OF THE PROSECUTORS MADE IN THE ADAM TOLEDO CASE.
ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THE NUMBER TWO PERSON IN THE OFFICE HAD TO GO BECAUSE THE BUCK STOPPED WITH THEM FOR WHAT WENT WRONG.
ARE YOU SATISFIED WITH THAT EXPLANATION?
>> WELL, I MEAN CLEARLY THE WHEELS OF JUSTICE NEEDED OIL IN THE OFFICE DURING THIS ENTIRE EPISODE.
BUT IT WAS INTERESTING THAT THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE MOVED MUCH FASTER TO DO DAMAGE CONTROL IN THIS THAN THEY DID IN THE SMOLLETT CASE MAYBE LEARNING LESSONS FROM THAT.
THE STATE'S ATTORNEY REALLY TRYING TO PUT A BUTTON ON THIS WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME NOT ONLY ADMITTING THAT THERE WAS THIS ERROR, TRYING TO EXPLAIN HOW IT HAPPENED, APOLOGIZING FOR IT AND THEN SOMEBODY HER TOP DEPUTY RESIGNS AND THEY ATTEMPT TO MOVE ON.
WHETHER THE PUBLIC DIDN'T PAY ATTENTION HAS ALREADY FORGOTTEN ABOUT IT IS ANOTHER MATTER.
IT WAS INTERESTING THE SPEED THAT KIM FOXX OPERATED IN THIS CASE.
>> AND ADMITTING SHE HAD NOT SEEN THE TOLEDO VIDEO BEFORE IT WAS RELEASED.
AGAIN, SAYING IT WAS JUST A BREAKDOWN IN CHECKS AND BALANCES IN HER OFFICE AND SOMEONE HAD TO GO ACCORDING TO THE REPORT.
>> WHEN YOU HEAR WORDS LIKE CONFUSION AND BREAKDOWN ANDS FROM TRATION, APOLOGY, RESIGNATION ALL WITHIN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME COMING FROM THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S THAT IS A BAD DAY.
>> CERTAINLY.
LET'S MOVE ON TO THE CIVILIAN OFFICE OF POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY'S CHIEF ADMINISTRATOR RESIGNED AND MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT DID NOT MINUTES WORDS.
>> I'VE MADE NO SECRET ABOUT THE FACT THAT I HAVE BEEN EXTRAORDINARILY UNHAPPY WITH THE WAY THEY'VE HANDLED A NUMBER OF THINGS NOT THE LEAST OF WHICH IS TAKING OVER 18 MONTHS TO MOVE FORWARD ON AN INVESTIGATION REGARDING ANJANETTE YOUNG.
>> SO LIGHTFOOT SAYING SHE DID NOT ASK FOR THE RESIGNATION, GREG PRATT OF SYDNEY ROBERTS, BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK WAS BEHIND THIS RESIGNATION?
>> WELL, IT'S TRUE THAT THE MAYOR HAS BEEN PUBLICLY AND PRIVATELY CRITICAL OF C.O.P.A.
AND SYDNEY ROBERTS ON THIS.
AND IT'S TRUE THAT C.O.P.A.
IS SLOW.
THEY ARE VERY SLOW TO DO THEIR INVESTIGATIONS.
BUT, OF COURSE, THEY DON'T REALLY HAVE THOSE RESOURCES AND PEOPLE CAN BE DISMISSIVE BUT I POINTED OUT THAT C.P.D., THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT GETS $100 MILLION FOR OVERTIME AND C.O.P.A.
GETS $50,000.
SO YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU PUT THOSE ON AN EQUAL FOOTING WHERE THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF INVESTIGATING MISCONDUCT -- I'M NOT SURE THAT IS A FRACTION OF $100 MILLION.
>> IT'S BEEN A QUESTION OF RESOURCES AT C.O.P.A.
KIMBERLY EGONMWAN IS IT FAIR TO SAY THAT IT'S NOT DOING THESE INVESTIGATIONS QUICK ENOUGH WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT CASES THAT DO NEED TIME TO INVESTIGATE.
THAT NEED DUE DILIGENCE DONE HERE?
>> THERE IS ONCE SOMETHING CALLED THE OFFICE OF PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS.
>> IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT >> YES.
WHICH LED TO I.P.R.A.
>> RIGHT.
>> WHICH GOT RID OF BECAUSE LAQUAN McDONALD THERE WERE FAILURES WHICH LED TO C.O.P.A.
THERE IS NOTHING NEW HERE.
AND I THINK THAT UNTIL SOMETHING DRASTIC HAPPENS IN THE WAY IN WHICH THESE POLICE SHOOTINGS AND INVESTIGATIONS ARE CONDUCTED AND I MEAN DRASTIC LIKE REAL PARTICIPATION FROM THE PUBLIC OR JUST ANOTHER WAY OF DOING THIS, BECAUSE HERE IS THE THING LET'S LOOK AT IT ANOTHER WAY, C.O.P.A.
IS NOT THE ONLY PERSON WHO DRAGGED THEIR FEET FOR THESE MONTHS.
THE MAYOR ALSO TOOK THIS TO COURT.
HER LEGAL STAFF TOOK THIS TO COURT AND SHE KNEW ABOUT IT TO TRY AND KEEP THE VIDEO OUT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
>> WE'VE HEARD THAT BEFORE, TOO, IN PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATIONSES.
>> EXACTLY.
THIS IS ANOTHER CASE OF SOMEONE'S HEAD HAVING TO ROLL AND THEM GETTING AROUND TO DOING THAT BUT THERE IS A SYSTEM IN PLACE SINCE FOREVER.
>> THERE IS ONE NEW ELEMENT TO THIS THAT IS INTERESTING THAT I'M NOT SURE NECESSARILY POSITIVE AND THAT IS THAT THERE IS THIS MECHANISM THAT NOW IN PLACE WHEN THERE ARE POLICE VIDEOS ABOUT TO BE RELEASED BY C.O.P.A.
WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE LAST FEW IS THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CALLS IN REPORTERS TO AN OFF THE RECORD NO VIDEOS, NO TELEVISION CAMERAS AT 8:00 A.M. AT POLICE HEADQUARTERS TO GIVE THEIR VIEW HOW THIS THING CAME DOWN AND THEN HOURS LATER C.O.P.A.
RELEASES IT WITH VIRTUALLY NO CONTEXT AT ALL OTHER THAN WHAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS PUT OUT UNOFFICIALLY AND ON BACKGROUND.
IT'S QUITE A GAME THAT SEEMS TO BE AT PLAY HERE.
AND I'M NOT SURE THAT IT'S NECESSARILY A GOOD THING.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT FOR OUR VIEWERS TO KNOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION THEY HAVE STARTED TO CONTROL THE NARRATIVE ON THESE VIDEOS WHEREAS YOU SAY -- >> AT LEAST TRIED.
>> TRIED TO CONTROL.
THE FIRST TIME WE HEAR ABOUT THE POLICE INVOLVED SHOOTINGS NOW COMES FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THOSE VIDEOS THAT YOU MENTIONED, ARE CHANGED IN SUCH A WAY TO SLOW THINGS DOWN, TO PUT ARROWS IN THERE TO HELP FOLKS SEE IT FROM THE POLICE PERSPECTIVE.
I'M NOT SAYING IT IS A BAD THING BUT IT CERTAINLY IS DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE'VE BEEN USED TO.
SARAH KARP, FEW HIGH PROFILE RESIGNATIONS THIS WEEK.
JANICE JACKSON AT C.P.S.
AND SYDNEY ROBERTS AT C.O.P.A.
DO YOU THINK THIS HAS TO DO WITH WHETHER OR NOT THESE HIGH LEVEL OFFICIALS CAN WORK WITH MAYOR LIGHTFOOT?
>> WELL, ACCORDING TO JANICE JACKSON, NO, SHE AND THE MAYOR ARE VERY GOOD FRIENDS AND SHE REALLY RESPECTS THE MAYOR AND THE MAYOR RESPECTS HER.
BUT FROM WHAT I HEAR FROM PEOPLE WHO KNOW JANICE JACKSON AND ALSO PEOPLE ON HER STAFF TOP LEVEL PEOPLE ON HER STAFF THAT ARE ALSO LEAVING, IT WAS HARD TO WORK FOR LIGHTFOOT.
I DON'T THINK THAT IS A SECRET.
I DON'T THINK THAT ANYBODY DOESN'T KNOW THAT.
SHE HAS HAD A LOT OF PEOPLE LEAVE HER ADMINISTRATION.
AND THEN WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CHICAGO TEACHERS' UNION WHICH IS NOT EASY TO WORK WITH EITHER, I THINK THAT AT LEAST THE CHICAGO PUBLIC SCHOOL ADMINISTRATION FELT LIKE THEY WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF BOTH OF THESE TWO THINGS THAT ARE HARD TO WORK WITH AND THEY WANTED TO GET THINGS DONE AND I THINK THEY FELT LIKE THEY COULDN'T GET THINGS DONE IN THE CONTEXT THAT THEY WERE IN.
>> IT SEEMED LIKE CONSTANT CONFLICT ON ALL SIDES.
I WANT TO GET BACK TO THE DISCUSSION AND I WANT TO TALK ABOUT HEATER FEDERAL COURT CASES THIS WEEK THERE WAS A HEARING IN THE SWEEPING CASE AGAINST ComEd AND SOME TOP EXECUTIVES AND LOBBYISTS AND BOTH DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND PROSECUTORS ELUDING TO THE FACT THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING SUPERCEDING INDICTMENTS.
CHUCK GOUDIE DOES THAT TELL YOU THEY HAVE THE BIG FISH IN THEIR SIGHTS WHO IS A PART OF THE INDICTMENTS, MICHAEL MADIGAN, BUT NOT AT LEAST NOT ACCUSED OF WRONGDOING?
OR COULD THEY BRING MORE CHARGES AGAINST THE FOLKS THAT ARE CHARGED?
>> HE IS ACCUSED OF WRONGDOING BUT HE HAS NOT BEEN CHARGED.
THE DOCUMENTS OUT THERE CERTAINLY PUT OUT A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR BY MADIGAN AND OTHERS.
AND IT WOULD SEEM JUST A MATTER OF TIME.
I MEAN SOMEBODY AT THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAS A CALENDAR WITH A DATE WITH A RED CIRCLE AROUND IT AND THAT IS WHEN ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN.
THE SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT WILL INCLUDE ADDITIONAL PLAYERS OBVIOUSLY.
>> AND I MEAN IF YOU WERE TO ROLL THE DICE -- FROM READING DISPATCHES AND TALKING TO FOLKS, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT THE U.S. ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS INTERESTED IN MICHAEL MADIGAN.
WOULD YOU ASSUME THAT A SUPERCEDING INDICTMENT WOULD INCLUDE HIM?
>> I THINK THERE'S LITTLE DOUBT.
>> LITTLE DOUBT AT THIS POINT.
THAT IS A CLEARANCE.
YOU ALSO HAVE FORMER ALDERMAN RICARDO MUNOZ DENYING 16 COUNTS OF USING CAMPAIGN FUND FOR PERSONAL EXPENSES.
CHUCK GOUDIE, AGAIN, YOU FOLLOWED THESE CASES FOR A LONGTIME IT'S DIFFICULT TO BEAT THE FEDS ON A CASE LIKE THIS.
WOULD MUNOZ BE ANGLING FOR SOME SORT OF PLEA DEAL WHERE HE PERHAPS HAS INFORMATION ON OTHER PUBLIC OFFICIALS THAT HE WOULD BE WILLING TO GIVE THE FEDS?
>> YOU KNOW, WHAT THE FEDS SAY AND WHAT THEY TRY TO TELL PEOPLE IS THAT THESE CASES ARE LIKE A BUS AND THE FIRST PERSON ON THE BUS GETS THE BEST DEAL.
IF YOU EVER FIND YOURSELF CAUGHT UP IN CORRUPTION CASE YOU WANT TO TAKE THAT FIRST STEP AND GENERALLY THAT PERSON OVERFER OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST 30 YEARS IN CHICAGO HAS GOTTEN OFF WITH A SWEET DEAL EITHER LIMITED PRISON TIME, SOMETIMES PROBATION OR AN ASSIGNMENT TO THE PRISON OF CHOICE.
>> AND ONE OF THOSE FOLKS RECEIVING A SWEET DEAL FORMER ALDERMAN DANNY SOLIS.
GREG PRATT THE TRIBUNE OUTLINED SOME OF THE ASPECTS OF THAT DEAL.
IS IT INTERESTING TO YOU THAT GIVEN WHAT HE HAS ALLEGED TO HAVE DONE, IT LOOKS LIKE BECAUSE OF HIS COOPERATION WITH THE FEDS WEARING A WIRE AGAINST ED BURKE HE IS GOING TO FACE NO CONSEQUENCES.
>> YES IT IS EXTRAORDINARY IN GOOD WAYS AND BAD WAYS.
SOLIS GAVE THEM EXTRAORDINARY SERVICE.
HE WORE A WIRE FOR MORE THAN TWO YEARS.
AGAINST SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE.
HE DID NOT JUST RECORD BURKE HE RECORDED MADIGAN WHETHER HE GOT ANYTHING USEFUL BUT HE RECORDED MADIGAN.
HE RECORDED BURKE.
ON THE OTHER SIDE HE WAS ACCORDING TO PROSECUTORS ANYWAY, VERY CORRUPT AND HE DID VERY BAD THINGS INCLUDING TRADING VIAGRA FOR BRIBES OR VIAGRA FOR FAVORS.
SO IT'S REMARKABLE THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO FACE ANY PUNISHMENT ASIDE FROM THE REPUTATIONAL HARM.
AND IT CAN GO BOTH WAYS BUT IT IS EXTRAORDINARY AND UNUSUAL.
>> SEEMS LIKE A PATTERN VIAGRA IN THAT CASE AND THE CASE OF MUNOZ AN ALLEGED TRIP TO LOVERS LANE ON THE CAMPAIGN DIME.
KIMBERLY EGONMWAN, WHAT DO YOU PREDICT THE NEXT SHOE IS TO FALL IN ANY OF THESE CASES, ComEd, MADIGAN, BURKE, MUNOZ, PICK ONE.
>> I DON'T HAVE MY CRYSTAL BALL HANDY BUT I WILL SAY THE TENTATIVE NATURE IN WHICH THEY ARE TAKING SO MUCH TIME TO FINALLY INDICT, BRING THE COUNTS, BRING THE CHARGES, SOLIS PRETTY MUCH GETTING OFF THAT MIGHT AS WELL BE CODE WORD FOR WE ARE GOING TO USE THIS PERSON FOR THE PERSON OR THE PERSONS THAT WE REALLY WANT.
AND THEY ARE CROSSING ALL T'S AND DOTTING ALL IS.
WHEN YOU HEAR SUPERCEDING INDICTMENTS AND ONE PERSON NOT LISTED OFFICIALLY, SOMEBODY IS IN TROUBLE MULTIPLE SOMEBODIES ACROSS THESE CASES.
>> AND CERTAINLY THAT PERSON DOES APPEAR IN THOSE OTHER ComEd INDICTMENTS JUST NOT AS CHARGED WITH ANYTHING YET.
BACK TO THE NEWS WITH THE C.P.S.
AND C.E.O.
JANICE JACKSON.
SARAH KARP WOULD YOU GUESS THAT THE SUCCESSOR HERE IS GOING TO BE SOMEONE FROM OUTSIDE OF CHICAGO?
WE HAVE SEEN THIS OVER THE YEARS WHERE SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE COMES IN AND DOESN'T REALLY GET A HANDLE ON THINGS OR WOULD IT COME FROM WITHIN?
>> MAYOR LIGHTFOOT GAVE A LITTLE BIT OF A HINT BECAUSE SHE SAID THAT SHE IS GOING TO BE LOOKING FOR EXCESS C.P.S.
PEOPLE THAT HAVE GONE TO OTHER PLACES AND MIGHT WANT TO COME BACK.
THERE ARE NAMES THAT POP IN MY HEAD AND I HAVE NO CRYSTAL BALL EITHER.
BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO LEFT C.P.S.
A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE PEOPLE THAT COULD BE WOULD KNOW ENOUGH OF THE LANDSCAPE IN CHICAGO TO NOT WALK IN COMPLETELY BLIND BUT WOULD HAVE EXPERIENCE SOMEWHERE ELSE AND BRING THAT IN.
SO THAT IS WHAT SHE SAID SHE IS LOOKING AT.
SHE HAS A NATIONAL FIRM IF SOMEBODY WAS ON JUST THE INSIDE THAT SHE THOUGHT SHE WOULD PULL UP YOU WONDER WHY SHE WOULD NOT HAVE DONE THAT QUICKLY.
LIKE WHEN SHE WAS ANNOUNCING JANICE RESIGNING AND HERE IS SOMEBODY HERE IS WHO I WANT TO REPLACE THEM.
OR SHE COULD HAVE NOT HIRED A NATIONAL SEARCH FIRM.
HOWEVER THEY COULD HIRE A NATIONAL SEARCH FIRM AND CALL IT OFF.
>> DISREGARD THE RECOMMENDATION THERE.
>> AND YOU MENTIONED HOW DIFFICULT THAT JOB IS.
NO ONE DOUBTS WHAT YOU ARE CAUGHT BETWEEN.
IT'S NEVER BEEN A BETTER TIME TO BE THE C.E.O.
BECAUSE YOU HAVE ALL THIS CASH COMING AT YOU WITH THE FEDERAL STIMULUS MONEY AND NOW GOVERNOR J.B. PRITZKER SAYS THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE STATE MONEY COMING THEIR WAY.
WHAT CAN THEY USE THAT FOR AND GIVE US A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CASH POSITION OF C.P.S.
FOR AS LONG AS WE'VE ALL FOLLOWED C.P.S.
THEY'VE HAD A HORRIBLE BUDGET SITUATION.
>> RIGHT.
I MEAN THEY HAVE A TON OF DEBT.
SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS HOW MUCH IS THE FEDERAL STIMULUS ARE THEY GOING TO USE TO PAY DOWN DEBT AND PUT THEMSELVES IN A BETTER POSITION GOING FORWARD.
THE MAYOR IS DOING WITH THE CITY WITH THE FEDERAL MONEY AND HOW MUCH ARE THEY GOING TO SPEND ON SCHOOLS.
YOU WANT TO BE CALIBRATED IF YOU SPEND GIVE TOO MUCH IF YOU PUT TOO MUCH INTO SCHOOLS RIGHT NOW WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO IN FOUR YEARS WHEN THAT MONEY IS NOT THERE?
YOU DON'T WANT TO JUST GIVE SOMEBODY A SOCIAL WORKER AND IN FOUR YEARS HAVE TO TAKE THE SOCIAL WORKER BACK THAT IS NEVER A GOOD THING.
I THINK THAT WHAT THEY WILL TRY TO LOOK AT IS WAYS THEY CAN SHORE UP SOME OF THE LEARNING LOSS.
SPEND BIG ON SUMMER PROGRAMS.
SPENDING ON AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS, TUTORING.
ALREADY JANICE JACKSON SAYS SHE WAS GOING TO LAYOUT HER PLAN.
IT IS A GREAT TIME TO BE SOMEONE WALKING INTO C.P.S.
BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT BUDGET CUTS.
HOWEVER WHAT YOU DO HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IS A MAYOR GOING INTO AN ELECTION SEASON.
IF SHE RUNS FOR REELECTION.
PERHAPS AN ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD COMING ON-LINE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS.
>> WHICH, BY THE WAY, YOU NOW YOU SEE SENATOR DON HARMON SAYING THAT KIND OF THROWING LIGHTFOOT A BONE SAYING A FULLY ELECTED SCHOOL BOARD AT LEAST IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS IS NOT A BILL THAT HE WANTS TO SEE COME OUT OF SPRINGFIELD.
HE WANTS MORE OF A HYBRID BILL ALSO SOMETHING THAT LIGHTFOOT HYBRID MEANING THE MAYOR APPOINTS SOME OF THE MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC ELECTS SOME OF THE MEMBERS.
I WANTED TO MOVE ON TO THE VIOLENCE ISSUES.
GREG PRATT ALDERMEN THIS WEEK IN A HEARING SAY THEY WANT DIFFERENT APPROACHES TO STEM THE EXPECTED TIDE OF SUMMER VIOLENCE USING SOME OF THE STIMULUS MONEY FOR THINGS LIKE VIOLENCE INTERRUPTION.
AGAIN ALL OF US HERE HAVE BEEN AROUND THE CITY LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THERE ARE NO SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
WHAT ABOUT SOME OF THESE IDEAS?
IS THERE ANY PLAN TO QUELL WHAT WE SEE AS A BUMP IN VIOLENCE OVER THE SUMMER?
>> THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
I'M SURE THERE IS A PLAN WHETHER IT'S WORKING AND WHETHER THE CITY NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, CRIME IS VIOLENT CRIME HAS SKYROCKETED IN THE LAST YEAR-AND-A-HALF.
IT DOESN'T REALLY SEEM TO BE GOING DOWN AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO AND IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE ALDERMEN AND STAKEHOLDERS AND COMMUNITY LEADERS SAY WE ARE WHAT WE'RE DOING IS NOT WORKING WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE.
WHETHER WE'LL KEEP THROWING OVERTIME AT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SAYING WELL THAT WILL DO IT.
I DON'T KNOW.
>> SEEM TO HEAR IT'S OVERTIME AND FINGER POINTING AND THAT IS THE WAY IT'S BEEN IN THE PAST.
WE ARE OUT OF TIME THANKS TO CHUCK GOUDIE, GREG PRATT, SARAH KARP AND KIMBERLY EGONMWAN.
>> AND THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR FRIDAY NIGHT.
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FOR "THE WEEK IN REVIEW" I'M PARIS SCHUTZ.
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