Pau Hana Years.

A new day for older Americans,  a time for living.

Your host, Bob Barker.

Bob Barker Hi and welcome to the program for and by the senior citizens of Hawaiʻi.

Today, on Pau  Hana Years, we're going to discuss the use of free bus passes which senior citizens have or can get  here.

The potential for a new way of life for pass holders or anyone else is explained and shown in  a new book by Millie Singletary, See Oʻahu via the bus.

Millie, what prompted you to write this book?

Millie Singletary Well, I came here without a car, and I started  using the bus, and they're so wonderful that I just kept trying to learn more and more  about them.

I had written a previous book, which I described the bus a little  bit, but it was not a good job.

So, I was getting ready for the 77 edition of that  book, and I kept getting research and research, and ended up with so many interesting things and  had such a good time that I decided to put this special book out to help the people.

Bob Barker A book on the bus itself.

Where are you from?

Millie Singletary Canoga Park, California.

Bob Barker Oh, California.

When did you come here?

Millie Singletary February of this year.

Bob Barker Oh, just of this year.

Millie Singletary Yes.

Bob Barker Had you been here before?

Millie Singletary Yes, many times.

I, for about seven or eight  years, I've been coming about twice a year.

Bob Barker Oh, I see.

Well now, have you had a lot of bus experience with busses elsewhere?

Millie Singletary No, except I had to go back on  business.

A couple of months ago, I had to go back to California on business.

And  went.

The first thing I did, I got on a bus.

Bob Barker Oh, through your use of busses, here are you tied in with the bus company here in any way?

Millie Singletary No, definitely not.

No.

Bob Barker Because it's a great promotion for the busses.

Millie Singletary Well, the busses I think, do a fantastic job  for the people.

I really, sincerely believe there's no place in the world where you can  go as far for a quarter as you can in Oʻahu.

Bob Barker Now, you mentioned research.

What?

What all did you have to do in the way of research?

Millie Singletary Well, I did many things.

First of all, I ride  the bus.

Sometimes I ride five, six busses a day.

Bob Barker You do?

Millie Singletary My husband leaves for work at five o'clock in the morning and but I like the one  around the island.

But every time I get on a bus, I find the bus driver, bless his heart, the same  questions over and over and over, in particular, from the Ala Moana Center, does this bus go  to the Arizona Memorial?

And the one around the island?

The number 52 I think it's the most  misunderstood bus there is, but it's beautiful.

You really can go the whole way around the  island for a quarter and you go through the sugar cane fields if you take the inland route,  the Wahiawa bus.

Then you come back by the coast, or vice versa.

But practically all the papers  and other, excuse me, media and say, just take a number 52 but that's not enough, and that's one  of the things this book does.

It tells you how to read the destination signs.

There's much more than  just getting on a 52 if you want to go inland, you take a 52 Wahiawā, Kāneʻohe.

If you want to go via  the coastline, you take a 52 Kāneʻohe.

Wahiawā.

Bob Barker Oh, I see.

Millie Singletary But if you just take a 52 Kāneʻohe, that's all the fare you're going to get.

You'll  never get around the island.

And of course, the Polynesian Culture Center is very popular.

So,  if you want to go to Polynesian Culture Center, if you get on a 52, well, if you get on a 52 Wahiawā  or Wahiawā Heights, you just never get there.

Bob Barker Well, in your research, you didn't just get on the busses and start  making notes.

Did you?

Did you?

What did you do?

Millie Singletary I did a combination of a lot of things.

Number one, I went to the bus  company, and I got every schedule they have.

Bob Barker I see.

Millie Singletary They have excellent material.

And for anybody that lives here that can use the  bus to go to work, I think they should have a copy of that schedule.

But those schedules don't  tell you all the interesting things along the way.

They don't show you anything.

But I designed  several maps, which my husband did, for example, here on the center spread.

If you happen to live  up in Palolo Valley, number nine.

Just says it real plain there.

Anybody that wants to go up  there and just for the ride or something, just get on number nine any place.

It's the same way  with the Civic Center.

There's a special map that describes everything that's there.

So if you're  on the bus, you just look at the book and it tells you you're passing Washington Place or the  state capitol, because everybody's always saying, what's that?

What's that?

What's that?

Bob Barker Oh yes, yes.

Millie Singletary So I started with that way.

Then I would sit  around, on, you know, when the bus stops, like, down on Hotel Street.

And I would take notes, a  number one, so and so, a number one, so and so, with all these different names after the  number one or after the number two.

Oh, and I started wondering, well, now, where does  that go?

I mean the number two, you know, but number twos and number fours go different places  at different times, and it's those words after the number that are very important.

It's like the  everyone says, take a number eight, you know, to get to Waikīkī.

Well, that's true, I mean.

And  they run very, very often for Ala Moana Center, between three and five minutes.

I went out to  the airport last week to meet somebody.

There was an elderly gentleman on the bus, and he said  this, are you really going to Waikīkī.

And the bus driver says, No, man, I'm going to the airport.

And he says, What do you mean?

They told me to take a number eight, and this is a number eight.

Oh, yes, but you see it says eight airport.

So the word after the number is very, very important, and  that's one of the things I wanted to get across to the public.

One thing that's been very gratifying  to me is that I find the kamaʻāinas are using it as much as the tourists.

Bob Barker Is that so?

Millie Singletary Yes.

Bob Barker The, well, you came here in February, so  you wrote this in a hurry, didn't you?

Millie Singeltary The one little incident I had; I met a little native gal at a bus stop right  across from my apartment building.

She asked me if you know if this particular number, which  is a three, went downtown she was taking dancing lessons.

And I said, yes.

And she asked me  a couple other questions.

And she's real, real cute.

She's a nurse here at Kaiser, and  she said it was first time she'd ever been in the bus.

But last week, when she took her dancing  lesson, she had to pay $2.50 to park her car.

Oh, and so I said, oh, I'm writing a book.

At that  time, the book wasn't out yet.

I was still working on it.

I said, oh, you'll have to get my book when  it comes out.

And she said, what do you mean?

I've lived here for 10 years and I've never even been  on a bus, and you've been here for two months, and you’ve written a book on it.

Bob Barker Well, now you're, you're not in your  book, you're not talking about bus travel as something necessary altogether,  but as a preferred way to travel.

Millie Singletary Yes, well, it’s, it’s simply beautiful.

For  example, out at uh, oh shoot… Bob Barker Can’t think of the place you were trying to?

Millie Singletary The falls park, Waimea?

Bob Barker Oh yes, Waimea.

Millie Singletary Yeah, Waimea Beach Park.

We rent.

We don’t have a car.

I have no desire for one right  now.

But when we want one, we just rent one.

So, we went for a picnic out at Waimea Beach Park.

And  golly, we drove around that parking lot, I'd say, for 20 minutes trying to find a parking place.

Bob Barker Oh yes.

Millie Singletary Whereas the bus stops right in front of the place.

I'll never bother to go there by a car again.

The bus stops there for a quarter.

You just get  off the bus and walk across the street.

I mean, it's just fantastic.

Bob Barker When, when was your book actually  published, then?

When did it come out?

Millie Singletary It came out in July.

Bob Barker July?

Millie Singletary No, I'm sorry, August.

Bob Barker August.

Millie Singletary August.

It's been out about six weeks.

Six, seven weeks.

Bob Barker Well, you have information, then here, far more  information than is included in the bus schedules you can get for the bus company.

Millie Singletary Oh, definitely no question about it.

See, I  have all the points of interest.

There's many different ways to use the book.

I mean, there's  alphabetical way, like, if you just want to get to say the mission houses or to the Academy of  Arts.

You can look it up alphabetical, but then also on the maps, each map, and there are five  of them in the book, but they also have the ABC, etc.

So if you're driving along or riding along on  the bus, you just can look down here, and there's Aloha Tower.

There's Sea Flight.

There's Oceania.

Bob Barker Oh, points out the points of  interest for you as you ride the bus.

Millie Singletary Yeah.

So, you can use it that way for a visual reference, or you can use it alphabetical another  section in the book, which I think is interesting, probably because I love to eat, and I, supposed  to be a gourmet cook, but there's gourmet dining by bus, and I invite the kamaʻāinas to get  a party together, get your friend from Pearl City and your other friend from Hawaii, Kai, and  all meet at the outrigger and have lunch.

I mean, why bother with parking?

Even if they have the  valet parking, you have to tip the guy 75 cents or $1 so ride the bus.

It's beautiful.

Bob Barker Well, some I think many people hesitate  to ride the bus, because, as you said that the number four might, for instance,  might not go the same place every time.

Millie Singletary That's right.

But don't forget what I said.

Read the words after the number.

And  that's another thing I've tried to do in the book, is to include those on the maps, like the... Bob Barker Are those, are the names after the number the  destination, the final stopping place of the bus is that what they are?

Millie Singletary Right.

For example, a number five is a wonderful  bus to take to Waikīkī.

Mostly because people don’t know it goes to Waikīkī, even though it  says it, you know, right on the thing.

But they’re waiting for a number eight time after time.

In  fact, some of the real nice bus drivers even say to the people we pull up in front, right down,  like, say, in front of the Ilikai.

If there's a number five, I have never been on a number  five that went to Waikiki, that was filled up, never had to stand because people are so used  to this number eight.

Another thing that I've tried to accomplish in the book, it takes some  research, and when you look at the book, you know, at first it might be confusing, but if you just  have one question and just look for that answer, then you'll find it in the book.

But for example,  you know, the trip to the Arizona Memorial is one of the most popular ones for tourists that  there is, and that's a typical question.

I mean, you can take the a 50 or a 51 or 52 Wahiawā,  etcetera.

But you can't take a 52 Kāneʻohe.

I mean, it just won't get you the Arizona  Memorial.

Get You There about four hours later.

But everything for tourists is designed  from Waikīkī.

I hope to help the tourist where they don't have to go back to Waikīkī the next  time they want to go someplace.

For example, if you're when you're coming back from the  Memorial, all you have to do is get off at Kalihi Street and take a number seven, and you'll  be at the Bishop Museum in about five minutes.

Bob Barker Oh, I see.

Millie Singletary Whereas they go back to their hotel and then look up something and then go back out to the  Bishop Museum would take them another hour.

So, there's maps all through the book that just show  if I'm here, for example, Kapiʻolani Park.

which is, you know, again, one of the most popular  places.

There's about seven busses that go there.

Bob Barker Many people get so frustrated waiting for busses.

Millie Singletary People going to be frustrated.

They're going to be frustrated.

I  mean, don't believe it on the bus.

But again, as I mentioned in the book, if you just,  really, there are so many beautiful things in the world.

And I believe very much in  meditation, and it's a perfect time to just tune in and just thank God for all  the beautiful things and the people and, and to look at the people and the flowers and the  new things that are coming out.

And I'm also very much for to-do lists or goal sheets.

And that's a  perfect time to just take that out of your purse or your wallet or something and see now, what is  it I have to do today and check that one off.

It might be little things.

It might be a time  to remind you to send you a birthday card, or there's so many active things that you can turn  your mind to instead of just being frustrated.

Bob Barker Carry a pocketbook with you, a pocketbook to… Millie Singletary To read?

Bob Barker To read.

Good time for that.

Millie Singletary Yeah, making notes.

Bob Barker Now they have, I think it's rather recently designated special seats  on the bus for the elderly and the handicapped.

Millie Singletary.

Yeah.

Beautiful.

There's either two or four seats in practically all the busses, and  they have a little label on them, a white label with a black insignia on it.

And I think that's  beautiful gesture of the bus company.

I mean… Bob Barker Because many, many of the older people don't like to walk the length of the bus  while it's starting up and stopping and so forth so I guess it makes it very handy.

Millie Singletary And for handicapped people it’s easy.

Bob Barker How do you regard the bus drivers?

Millie Singletary They're human people, just like all of us.

Some of them are absolutely hilarious.

I mean, I that's one thing I'm going to check with  a bus company sometime.

I'd love to take a tape recorder along.

There's one particular  driver that goes around the island that I swear he should be on one of the comedy shows.

He gets everybody so friendly and going, and makes everybody so happy and jokes and say,  here's a good fishing spot if you want to get off, anybody can get off the bus.

Bob Barker And he acts more like a tour  bus driver, then doesn’t he?

Millie Singletary Uh-huh, yeah, yeah.

Wonderful sense of humor.

Bob Barker Well, I suppose some of them get little irritated because they get the same  questions or the same problems with the public.

Millie Singletary I've often said I don't understand how poor guys do it time after time.

And I just  think they do a fantastic job in particular, and you should just check it out sometime.

I'll bet  a bus driver is asked, does this go the Arizona Memorial 15 times if he's there that long, whereas  the bus company has a big poster right there.

Take a number 50, 51, 52 and it spells out which ones  it's it's posted right there on the Ala Moana.

Bob Barker Your maps showing the routes.

How many different do you cover  the whole island with the with the maps, then?

Millie Singletary Yes.

there's one map that goes around the island.

That one's in Central, center, central Honolulu,  and then that one goes around the island.

Bob Barker Oh, yes.

Millie Singletary But in particular, there, again, when I have a map of around the island, I  show you which where the busses go, yes.

See it shows a 51 goes to Mākaha.

It shows the 52s and 56  and the 57.

They've just recently put on one, it's excellent, it says Hawaiʻi Kai on it.

It’s the 57.

It says Hawaiʻi Kai, and then it’ll have a card, Sea Life Park.

That one also goes to Kailua,  but that one goes through Waikīkī.

So, I mean, if you see a 57 Hawaiʻi Kai, you can just go  right through Waikīkī, same as the number eight.

Bob Barker The points of interest, as you said, are listed alphabetically.

And you  not only have the points of interest, but you also tell something about each point of interest.

Millie Singletary Yes, it tells the hours they're open, and if  there's an admission charge, I tell you how much I really do think it's a very, very complete book.

Many times the papers will say admission, you know, but they don't say how much.

So, I do give a  little.

I keep it brief because I want to keep it small that people can stick it in their pocket or  but it also, again, it's a double check there.

It says number 52, number three and number nine.

Bob Barker Yes.

Millie Singletary That sort of thing.

Again, it's  tells you which bus goes there.

Bob Barker Now, how did you get into the section here?

Gourmet dining by bus?

What prompted you to have that section in there?

Millie Singletary Well, like I say, I just happen to love to eat.

And I'm also supposed to be a gourmet cook.

Bob Barker Oh, you are?

Millie Singletary Yes, I just love it.

I've done articles on food.

Bob Barker Well now have you gone to all these places  to eat that you have listed in here?

Millie Singletary Oh, that list.

50 times more.

Yes, yes many more.

There's several of my very favorites that  aren't included in there, really.

For example, one of them is like, say, The Crouching Lion.

It's  just so easy to get I mean, for a quarter and 45 minutes later, there you are out in the country,  overlooking the ocean.

They make a delicious hamburger, get on the bus and come home.

Bob Barker Are these listed, go over any places,  or eating places that you have listed in here necessarily your stamp of  approval, because you've listed them?

Millie Singletary No.

In the first place, and in my other book, I make no comments  This is fantastic, because I think all the restaurants are number one, they're a personal  preference.

One person will just love one place, and the other one will think it's terrible.

Secondly, they change.

You're never going to tell what's going to be good six months from now?

So,  for atmosphere, they're all wonderful.

And in that particular case, the food is terrific.

But, I  mean, I just let people do their own judging.

Bob Barker Now, on the back of the book, you have what you call a regular calendar of  events, and give the time of day and the day of the week, and then listing all the various  things that people can see, either free or whether there’s a small charge.

Millie Singletary Right.

And there's a lot of things that the people  don't know.

The free papers that Honolulu has, I think are simply wonderful.

They really  do a good job.

And I read them all the time, but I just condensed this.

For example, bridge.

I happen to love to play bridge.

Well, it took me months to find where you could play bridge.

I mean, there just doesn't seem to be any like party bridge clubs.

Bob Barker Oh, I see.

Millie Singletary So, I finally found that they do play duplicate  bridge here at the hotel, and I never can pronounce it, but it's on there.

But then, like at  the Ala Moana, it has a terrific Public Relations by having their quilting lessons and their lei  making and teaching the hula.

And it gives that the Ilikai has free hula lessons, the Sheraton  Waikīkī in the beautiful Hanohano Room.

And like, the tour of the mission houses and the tour of  Chinatown and feeding the carp at the Pagoda.

I mean it’s just right there and tells the times.

Bob Barker All these different events and the  different, and the times of day.

Millie Singletary Mm-hmm.

And you don’t have to look through 25 pages it’s just there.

Bob Barker Yes.

Very, very good.

Millie Singletary And then I think it has an excellent map, that was  courtesy of the Hawaiian Visitors Bureau.

But that map that shows 100 hotels, map of Waikīkī.

Bob Barker Oh, yes, mm-hm.

Millie Singletary Well, that that's wonderful, both for visitors... Bob Barker Hotel and street guide, the Waikīkī  street and hotel guide, mm-hmm.

Millie Singletary There’s 100 of them there so if you ever want to find a hotel, it’s just there.

Bob Barker So, you suggest using the busses, not  just to get from one place to another, but for touring too, then?

Millie Singletary Like a number five; that’s beautiful.

When you  want the rain.

About five o'clock in the evening, you just hop on a number five and ride up Paradise  Park and turn around, come back down.

I think it’s just super beautiful.

Bob Barker What is your favorite run on the bus routes?

Millie Singletary Well, that number 15 is sort of scary.

Bob Barker Where does the 15 go?

Millie Singletary Makiki Heights and Pacific Heights.

I mean, it’s just, it’s beautiful but, wow.

Bob Barker The winding, climbing streets, uh-huh.

Millie Singletary Yeah, it’s really beautiful, but I was on, well,  no, that would be negative.

This one bus just didn't, didn't want to get started from the one  bus stop.

But anyway, anyway, I really like them.

Bob Barker Now, in addition to the bus book.

Book You've also written this one  Hawaiʻi Hotels, Restaurants, and Fun.

Did you have a similar reason for writing this book?

Millie Singletary Well, that one came first.

Bob Barker This one is the first book.

Millie Singletary I have read everything that's been written on  Hawaiʻi.

And what I did was I condensed things.

In other words, there's charts in there that has  all the hotels listed, and tells how many rooms and whether or not they're air conditioned,  and it gives their price range, whether or not they have a restaurant, whether they have  cocktails, same way with restaurants.

I mean, it tells what type of food and their hours, and it  has the zip code in it.

It has telephone prefixes.

Some people never even think, well, what's  telephone prefix?

It doesn't mean anything, but the telephone prefix gives you a lot of clues,  yes, as to where the location it is.

And if you're answering an ad in the paper, and it has a 272,  on prefix or something, you know it's way out in the tooleys someplace.

But it has maps of all  the islands.

It covers all the islands.

It's not just Oʻahu.

But in particular, the thing that  caused quite a bit of comment is this Bicentennial Lūʻau.

There's also instructions in the book on  how to do a lūʻau.

I put on a lūʻau for charity at 75 cents a piece.

Made a tremendous  amount of money for my church back in... Bob Barker Was that so?

Millie Singletary And it’s all in here.

It tells you how to do the hula.

Bob Barker How to do the hula?

Millie Singletary Yeah.

Bob Barker Have you learned to do the hula yet?

Millie Singletary No, I’m not good at, I can't get those  beautiful hand motions.

I’m gonna keep trying.

Bob Barker Well, is this book then, this Hotels, Restaurants, and Fun book, is that the result of your travels?

Have you done a lot of traveling in the isl---?

Millie Singletary Yes, yes.

Bob Barker Is this the result of travels because you could  have used a book like this other places?

Millie Singletary Right, right.

I've been in practically all the countries.

I mean, I've been all through  Europe and Japan and Hong Kong, Singapore, Ceylon.

Bob Barker But, you know, I just noticed this book is by Millie Kingston.

Millie Singletary Yeah.

Bob Barker Not Millie Singletary.

Millie Singletary That’s right.

I just changed that, Christmas Eve.

Bob Barker Christmas Eve you got married?

Millie Singletary Uh-huh.

Bob Barker You did, Christmas Eve?

Millie Singletary Right.

Bob Barker So, you were Millie Kingston when you  wrote this one, when did this come out?

Millie Singletary That came out about June of ’75.

Bob Barker And then you were Millie Singletary after you wrote this one Millie Singletary Right, mm-hm.

Bob Barker These books are available now, where, Millie?

Millie Singletary Well, they're in practically all of the hotel  gift shops.

They are available in Holiday Mart.

Safeway just called me on Monday and told I don't  do anything with the distribution.

It's handled by Hawaiian Magazine Distribution.

Bob Barker Oh, I see, uh-huh.

Millie Singletary So, if they're not at your favorite hotel, just  ask for them, and I'm sure they'd be happy to put them out.

We haven't had time to hit all  the spots yet, but I've seen it, you know, in most of the stands, but it should be in all the  places, all the hotels, definitely the Honolulu bookstores.

Bob Barker In the table of contents you do mention  the bussing in Hawaiʻi.

That’s the what you mentioned a while ago that wasn’t  complete enough, so you wrote this book.

Millie Singletary Yes, Bob Barker And the Telephone Exchange, that’s the prefixes and so forth.

Millie Singletary Right.

Bob Barker The language.

What’s that, what’s that… Millie Singletary Well, two pages that tell you  what, how to speak Hawaiian.

Bob Barker Oh, mainly for the tourists and… Millie Singletary Mm-hmm.

Bob Barker Oh, I see.

And the lūʻaus and hula, that you were talking about.

Millie Singletary Right, right.

Bob Barker And maps.

And the weather.

Millie Singletary The weather.

Bob Barker What can you say about the weather in Hawaiʻi?

Millie Singletary Well, again, I mean, I just use the official  government.

I mean, it's not my personal opinion that came direct from the government,  and it's their chart.

And tells the rainfall, tells what the average temperature is by month.

Bob Barker And then this covers all  the islands, not just Oʻahu.

Millie Singletary Right.

Bob Barker Oh, yes, uh-huh.

Millie Singletary And it has all the points of interest on the different islands.

Bob Barker Points of interest on the various islands.

Millie Singletary And the hotels and restaurants in  the different islands And like I say, recipes and... Bob Barker Suggested lūʻau menu I see here, teriyaki  sticks, chicken and go, lomi lomi, macadamia balls, all of it.

Millie Singletary And the crown of pork has a volcano dressing,  which, I make for Thanksgiving.

Itʻs flaming.

Bob Barker Oh!

Now, for instance, here on the Big Island you have the art galleries  listed, the Buddhist temple, Captain Cook, Captain Cook Cruise, Catholic Church, the churches, and  all these various points of in--, City of Refuge, coffee, with explanation of each one.

Millie Singletary Right.

Bob Barker What they're all about,  fishing, flowers and so forth.

How much, do you have any idea, how many books are  out now?

How many have been sold on either one of these two?

Do you get any tally on that?

Millie Singletary No, not really.

As I say, I don't handle the  distribution.

I know that the first run sold within two weeks, 2,000.

Bob Barker The first run of the bus book?

Millie Singletary 2,000 sold within two weeks, and then made another  run of 5,000 and I don’t really know what the count is.

I understand it’s back up Bob Barker Do you have any plans for more books?

Millie Singletary Oh, I've already written another  book on Hawaiian Quilting as an Art.

Bob Barker Hawaiian quilting?

Millie Singletary Quilting as an Art.

Bob Barker Do you have a special interest in quilting?

Millie Singletary Well, I started taking lessons from this fantastic lady, and she was just so beautiful.

And  there again, everybody is saying, well, don't you have something in writing?

Or, you know, she just  knows it.

She's beautiful at it, and can tell you how to do it, but there just wasn't anything in  writing.

So, we were talking about it and she said she'd always wanted to write a book.

And I said,  well, let's do it.

We did it within six weeks.

Bob Barker What about books of this nature?

Are you?

Later editions?

Are  you going to revise or anything like that?

Millie Singletary Yeah.

Definitely.

Now on the Bus Book, the bus is always a changing thing so I’m going to revise  that about every three months to make sure that… Bob Barker Every three months you’re gonna revise it?

Millie Singletary Mm-hmm.

Bob Barker That's going to keep you busy, then, isn't it?

Millie Singletary No.

It’ll just, it will only be about two pages.

I just want to make sure… Bob Barker Keep revising.

Millie Singletary For example, in August, the bus system  put on extra bus at the airport.

Where now you can go to the airport every nine  minutes.

My book says every 15 minutes.

Bob Barker Oh, I see.

Millie Singletary But that just happened in August.

So the next edition that comes out,  we'll say every nine minutes.

But I will check with the bus company, which I did with this.

I  mean, I sent them to three main people.

I mean, they saw my draft before it was published.

But yes, it will be a 1977 edition of Hawai’i.

Bob Barker An edition of the hotels and restaurants book, too.

Well Millie, thanks very much or visiting  with us, and I'm sure your Bus Book will make for more happy bussing for many, many people.

Millie Singletary Well, in particular, we didn't mention the  senior citizens.

It's very easy for them to get they have to go to the bus office.

It  takes about four weeks.

But another thing, I don't think the tourists realize that, like  for people that come for six months, they too are allowed to have the free passes.

Bob Barker If they’re over 65.

Millie Singletary Over 65, mm-hmm.

Bob Barker Millie, thanks very much.

Millie Singletary You’re very welcome, thank you.

Bob Barker Our guest, Millie Singletary, author of See Oʻahu  Via the Bus and Hawaiʻi Hotels, Restaurants, and Fun.

And thatʻs Pau Hana Years for today.

Until our next program this is Bob Barker leaving you with this thought: the outside world is like  a book of which they who never stir from home, read only a page.

Millie Singletary That’s great (Singing) Try to remember when life was so tender that dreams were kept beside your pillow Deep in December, it’s nice to remember the fire of September that made us mellow Try to remember and if you remember then follow (to follow) remember  (remember) to follow (to follow)