>> Ted: CO MING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," A STORY OF HOW AN ARIZONA ELECTION'S OFFICIAL BECAME THE TARGET OF A VIRTUAL MANHUNT BY DENYING ACTIVISTS.

>>> RESEARCH INTO NEW WAYS OF HARNESSING THE PROPERTIES OF SOUND.

>> WE'LL MEET A MINIATURE HORSE PROVIDING THERAPY AND COMFORT TO THOSE IN NEED.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

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>> Ted: GOOD EVEN ING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

A JUDGE TODAY RULED THAT FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP PERSISTENTLY COMMITTED FRAUD FOR YEARS BY DEFLATING THE VALUES OF ASSETS AND EXAGGERATING HIS NET WORTH MAKING DEALS WITH BANKS AND OTHER LENERS.

LENDERS AND REPEATEDLY LIED ON FINANCIAL STATEMENTS TO GET FAVORABLE LOANS AND LOWER PREMIUMS.

THIS STRIPS TRUMP OF MANY OF THE SIGNATURE PROMPTS IN NEW YORK BY CANCELING BUSINESS CERTIFICATES ALLOWING PROPERTIES TO OPERATE.

THE RULES NARROWS THE PATH FOR THE NEW YORK STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL IN HER LAWSUIT ACCUSING TRUMP OF OVERVALUING HOLDINGS OF $2.2 BILLION.

>>> VALLEY HOME PRICES EXPECTING TO BE LOWER WHEN THIS MONTH'S NUMBERS ARE RELEASED WHICH REPORTS THE MEDIAN HOME PRICE IN SEPTEMBER WILL FALL TO $340,000, A DROP FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH.

THE MULTIPLE LISTING SERVICE NOTES THE EXPECTED DIP THIS MONTH IS NOT AN INDICATION OF FALLING HOME PRICES BUT REFLECTING SEASONAL SLOWING OF LUXURY HOME BUYING.

NATIONALLY HOME PRICES RISE FOR ASIXTH STRAIGHT MONTH AND ALSO OF NOTE, NEW HOME SALES DROPPED AS MORTGAGE RATES TOPPED 7%, HIGHEST IN 20 YEAR.

>>> THE FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION AND STATE STATES FILED AN ANTITRUST SUIT AGAINST AMAZON SAYING THEY CREATED A MONOPOLY TO MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE FOR RIVALS TO COMPETE AND THUS, ILLEGALLY STIFLES COMPETITION RESULTING IN HIGHER PRICES.

ARIZONA IS NOT AMONG THE 17 STATES FILING SUIT.

THIS IS AS THEY'RE SUING META AND THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT CONTINUING THE ANTITRUST CHALLENGE AGAINST GOOGLE.

>>> A NEW REPORT SHOWS THAT ARIZONA HAS LOST ALMOST ALL OF THE EXPERIENCED ELECTION'S OFFICIALS AND 98% OF THE STATE WILL HAVE NEW OFFICIALS RUNNING ELECTIONS NEXT YEAR.

A BIG REASON FOR THE EXODUS IS HARASSMENT.

IT'S A STORY OF AN ELECTION WORKER WHO WAS THE TARGET OF A VIRTUAL MANHUNT.

THIS IS WRITTEN BY JEN FIFIELD.

GREAT WORK ON THIS STORY.

LET'S START WITH SELUA NEIGHBOR.

>> THE FORMER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF EARLY VOTING IN MARICOPA COUNTY AND SHE WAS ONE THAT OVERSAW IF YOU SEND IN A MAIL-IN BALLOT, SHE OVERSAW CHECKING AND VERIFYING BALLOTS.

>> Ted: SHE HAS BEEN HARASSED, A LOT OF HARASSMENT HERE SOUNDS LIKE REPUBLICAN ACTIVISTS, ELECTION-ACTIVISTS.

>>> WE THE PEOPLE GROUP HERE STARTED DIGGING INTO THAT EARLY MAIL-IN LOT PROCESS THAT WE GO THROUGH VERIFYING BALLOTS.

SHE WAS THE MANAGER.

THEY STARTED TO CLAIM THAT SHE WAS TELLING PEOPLE INAPPROPRIATELY TO APPROVE FRAUDULENT BALLOTS AND SHE SHE HAD RESIGNED SHE NEW SHE WOULD BE QUESTIONED ABOUT IT, END QUOTE.

>> Ted: IS ANY OF THAT BASED ON FACT?

>> NO.

SELIA LEFT AND HER ATTORNEY SAYS SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE DID NOT AT ALL TELL PEOPLE TO INAPPROPRIATELY APPROVE FRAUDULENT SIGNATURES.

>> Ted: NO PROOF OF ANY OF THIS?

>> RIGHT.

AND THE THING IS, YOU MENTIONED THE ELECTION OFFICIALS RESIGNING ACROSS THE STATE.

WE TALKED ABOUT THIS AND THESE ARE THE PEOPLE RUNNING THE ELECTIONS AND THE PEOPLE MOSTLY SEEING THE HARASSMENT AND WHAT MY STORY LOOKED AT IS HOW THIS OFFICIAL, WHO IS UNDER THOSE PEOPLE, THIS IS A COUNTY WORKER, WAS STILL SEEING THAT HARASSMENT AND EVEN THOUGH SHE WASN'T ELECTED AND SHE WASN'T IN THAT HIGH PROFILE INTO THE.

>> Ted: HAS SHE BEEN DEPOSED AND ANY WITNESS STATEMENTS AND HAVE THESE ACTIVISTS, ARE THEY TRYING TO GET AT THE TRUTH AND WHAT'S GOING ON?

>> SO THEIR CLAIM WAS THEY WANTED CERTAIN RECORDS AND HOW THEY WERE DISCIPLINED IN THE 2020 ELECTION.

SO THEY WERE TRYING TO TALK TO HER ABOUT THAT.

AND THEY SAID IN FRONT OF THE SENATE THIS YEAR, THAT SHE HAD BEEN DEPOSED AND THAT THE NEXT DAY, OR SHE WAS ASKED TO.

THE RECORDS SHOW SHE RESIGNED AFTER THE DAY AFTER THANKSGIVING.

>> Ted: BASICALLY, THEY'RE UPSET BECAUSE SHE WASN'T RESPONDING TO RECORD'S REQUESTS?

>> BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO TALK TO HER AND SAYING THAT THE COUNTY WAS SAYING SHE HAD LEFT.

IT GETS CONFUSING ON THE TIMELINE AND JUST NOT THE CASE THAT SHE RESIGNED BECAUSE SHE WAS CONCERNED THEY WOULD INTERVIEW HER.

>> Ted: YOUR STORY FOCUSES ON THE LENGTH AT WHICH THESE PEOPLE WENT AFTER HER, UP TO AND INCLUDING SOMEONE KNOCKING ON HER DOOR IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT?

>> SO WE THE PEOPLE, AZ ALLIANCE, MADE THE CLAIMS IN JANUARY AND IT KIND OF ESCALATED.

YOU KNOW HOW ONLINE HARASSMENT HAS BEEN, WHERE ONE PERSON SAYS ONE THING AND IT ESCALATES AND IT GOT TO THE POINT PEOPLE POSTED HER ADDRESS AND THE NEXT MORNING OR THAT NIGHT, SOMEONE SHOWED UP AND POUNDING ON HER DOOR.

SHE DOESN'T KNOW WHO THAT WAS OR IF THEY WERE AT ALL ASSOCIATED WITH THAT GROUP.

THE TIMELINE SHOWS THEY PUT THOSE CLAIMS OUT THERE AND SHE WAS SEEING THIS COMING AT HER.

>> Ted: YOUR STORY GOES INTO DETAIL, "WE THE PEOPLE,."

IS APACT?

>> THEY RECEIVE FUNDING THROUGH THE MERIKA ORGANIZATION RUN BY PATRICK BURN, ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT TRUMP ALLIES TO CONVINCE PEOPLE OF WIDE-SPREAD FRAUD.

>> Ted: AND IT'S TO FLOOD EVERYWHERE YOU CAN WITH PUBLIC RECORD'S REQUESTS?

>> THEY STARTED LOOKING AT THE INCREASE IN PUBLIC RECORD'S REQUESTS TO ELECTION OFFICES, JUST COMPLETELY OVERWHELMED WITH BROAD REQUESTS.

SHE ME EVERYONE OF THE FILES FOR EVERY SINGLE VOTER.

SO WE STARTED LOOKING AT PATTERNS AND FOUND THAT, WE THE PEOPLE, WERE TRYING TO PROVE FRAUD THROUGH THE GOVERNMENT RECORDS.

>> Ted: HOW ARE THESE OFFICES HANDLING THIS CADLECADE OF REQUESTS?

>> IN SOME AREAS THEY'VE HAD TO HIRE MORE PEOPLE, WHICH IS FINE.

ONE THING TO MAKE CLEAR IS PUBLIC RECORD'S REQUESTS ARE GREAT AND AS A JOURNALIST, THIS IS A CORNERSTONE BELIEF THAT GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT.

SO PUBLIC RECORD'S REQUESTS ARE A GREAT TOOL FOR THAT AND WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW IS THAT THESE RECORDS ARE THEN TWISTED AND USED AGAINST ELECTION OFFICES, WHICH ARE THEN RECEIVING THIS HARASSMENT.

>> Ted: THE IMPACT ON A LOT OF TURNOVER IN OFFICES FROM ELECTION OFFICIALS DOWN TO FOLKS.

WE'RE SEEING THIS ALL OVER THE STATE, ARE WE NOT?

>> WE LEVEL ARE.

WE'VE HAD A LOT NOT RUNNING AGAIN IN 2024.

IT'S AFFECTING PEOPLE AT THE TOP LEVEL BUT UNDERNEATH THEM, AS WELL.

>> Ted: OBVIOUSLY, IT'S AFFECTING RETAINING THESE WORKERS.

IS IT AFFECTING RECRUITING PEOPLE TO GET IN THERE AND REPLACE THOSE WHO HAVE LEFT?

>> COUNTY RECORDER, STEVEN RICHARD, SAYS THEY'RE LOSING PEOPLE AND THE RECRUITMENT EFFORT IS TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE YOU'RE SAFE AND THESE ARE THE PROTECTIONS AND ADD PHYSICAL SECURITY FOR WORKERS AND THEY ALSO JUST TRY TO GET AHEAD OF THIS HARRASSMENT AS IT HAPPENS.

>> Ted: KARI LAKE AND HER ASSOCIATE'S ATTORNEYS, ARE THEY INVOLVED?

>> WE'RE FILING REQUESTS ON BEHALF OF KARI LAKE TRYING TO PROVE FRAUD IN COURT AND THESE WHERE THESE RECORD'S REQUESTS ARE COMING FROM TRYING TO PROVE THIS.

SO SHE WAS THIS COURT LAST WEEK MAKING THESE SAME CLAIMS ABOUT THE SIGNATURES AS SHE TRIES TO GET MORE PUBLIC RECORDS.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION HERE.

YOU LOOKED INTO EVERY ANGLE OF THIS.

IS THIS HARASSMENT AND UP TO THE POINT OF HARASSMENT AND IF IT CROSSED INTO HARASSMENT, WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES?

>> WE KNOW TOP OFFICIALS IN MARICOPA COUNTY, BILL GATES, CLINT HICKMAN HAVE BEEN IN FEDERAL COURT WATCHING INDITEMENTS AND CHARGES AND SENTENCING AGAINST PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN FOUND TO HAVE THREATENED THEIR LIFE.

SO THAT'S WHAT IT COMES DOWN TO, IS THIS A REAL THREAT OF HARM OVER SOMEONE'S SPECIFIC LIFE WHICH IS UP TO THE FBI TO DECIDE.

>> Ted: SELIA NEIGHBOR, DO WE KNOW ABOUT HER?

>> HER ATTORNEY HAS REFERRED A LOT OF THE HARASSMENT CASES TO THE DOJ, FBI, THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND ONGOING IS WHAT I'VE HEARD.

>> Ted: JEN FIFIELD, THANK YOU FOR SHARING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, NEW RESEARCH INTO THE BRAVE NEW WORLD OF ACOUSTICS.

>> THE NATIONAL OF SCIENCE FOX GRANTED THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA $30,000 TO ESTABLISH HOW SOUNDWAVES CAN IMPROVE EVERYTHING FROM COMPUTER SPEEDS TO CHANGES IN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE.

WE HAVE THE DIRECTOR AND PRINCIPAL INVESTIGATOR OF THE U OF A'S SOUND, SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY CENTER.

THAT'S A MOUTHFUL FOR THAT CENTER DOWN THERE AND CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GRANT!

NEW FRONTIERS OF THE SCIENCE CENTER.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

>> TALKING ABOUT THE ACOUSTICS WHICH IS AN EMERGING FIELD OF ACOUSTICS.

FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS, PEOPLE REALIZE THERE CAN HAVE EXTRA PROPERTIES AND TO EXPLOIT THOSE PROPERTIES TO BENEFIT THE TECHNOLOGIES LIKE FASTER COMPUTING AND BETTER CELL PHONE TECHNOLOGIES, AS WELL AS ACOUSTIC SENSING OF THE ENVIRONMENT.

>> Ted: SO STUDYING AND HARNESSING THE POWER OF SOUND?

>> YES, BUT NOT ANY KIND OF SOUND BUT TOPOLOGICAL AND AS I SAID, AN EMERGING DISCIPLINE.

>> Ted: IS IT MAPPING SOUND WAVES IN A MULTI DIMENSIONAL WAY?

>> IN FACT, YES.

LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.

SO IMAGINE THAT YOU ARE IN THEWORKTHEROOM AND THERE'S A LOUD SPEAKER AND TURNING THAT LOUD SPEAKER ON THAT WILL FIELD THE ROOM.

I'M TURNING THE LOUD SPEAKER ON IN THE ROOM ITSELF AND ANOTHER WAVE GOING OUT.

NOW WHAT I'M DOING IS TURNING THE SPEAKER PHONE TO GO BACK AND THE WAY THE SOUND IS FILTERING FROM THE FIRST LOUD SPEAKER AND THAT'S SHOCKING.

>> Ted: YES.

>> SO WHAT WE NEED TO DO HERE IS TURN THE SPEAKER PHONE ANOTHER TERM TO COMBAT WITH THIS ORIGINAL LANDSCAPE.

>> Ted: ARE WE TALKING QUANTUM HERE?

>> ABSOLUTELY ANOTHER BOOST OF QUANTUM.

EFFECTIVELY WHAT WE DO IS MAP THE SOUND OF THE BEHAVIOR OF THE SOUND TO A SO-CALLED, TWEET.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE OF THAT.

BUT IF YOU TAKE A STRIP OF PAPER AND MOVE THE ENDS OF THAT TRIP OF PAPER, THIS IS A ONE-SIDED OBJECT.

IF YOU PUT YOUR FINGER ON ONE SIDE AND YOU GO AND RUN AROUND THE STRIP, WHEN YOU DO ONE, THE FINGER WOULD BE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WHERE YOU STARTED.

AND YOU NEED TO DO TWO TO COME BACK TO WHERE YOU STARTED FROM AND THAT'S EQUIVALENT TO QUANTUM BEHAVIOR OF MATTER.

>> Ted: SO HOW DOES ALL OF THIS MAKE COMPUTERS RUN FASTERS AND HELP SENSORS WITH AGING INFRASTRUCTURE?

AND CLIMATE CHANGE, THIS COULD BE AFFECTED BY SOUND.

TALK HOW SOUND WAVES AFFECTS ALL OF THESE THINGS.

>> YOU KNOW OF QUANTUM COMPUTING THAT USE QUANTUM MECHANICS AND THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT YOU NEED TO WORK A VERY, VERY LOW TEMPERATURE.

WE CLAIM THAT THIS CAN DO THE SAME THING BUT WORKING WITH SOUND WAVE INSTEAD OF QUANTUM WAVE AND WORKING AT A PRESSURE LIKE THIS.

THAT'S ONE POSSIBLE BEHAVIOR AND TECHNOLOGY CO-APPLICATION.

YOU MAY NOT KNOW BUT IF YOUR SMART PHONE, YOU HAVE A LOT MICRODEVICES THAT USE ACOUSTICS TO FEEL RADIO FREQUENCY SIGNALS.

WHAT WE DO HERE IS WE USE THE ACOUSTIC WAVE, THE LOSS OF POWER IN THOSE MICROACOUSTIC DEVICES.

THEREFORE, WE LENGTHEN THE LIFE OF YOUR BATTERY.

>> Ted: LAST QUESTION BECAUSE WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME BUT THIS IS FASCINATING STUFF.

HOW WOULD THE RESEARCH BE CONDUCTED OR IS THAT STILL TO BE DETERMINED?

>> YOUTHIS IS A SENSOR LEAD BY THE UNIVERSITY OF ARIZONA AND A CONSORTIUM OF EIGHT OTHER UNIVERSITIES.

SO IT'S REALLY A NATIONAL CENTER AND A CENTER EFFORT THAT IS GOING TO GET INVOLVED IN THESE.

SO IT IS A TRULY COLLABORATIVE PROJECT WHERE YOU'LL HAVE SCIENTISTS AND ENGINEERS FROM ALL KINDS OF CIVIL ENGINEERING TO GEOSCIENCE AND MATHEMATICS TO WORK ON THE EVOLVING FIELDS.

TED >> Ted: UA COLLEGE OF ENGINEERING, CONGRATULATIONS ON THE GRANT AND RESEARCH AND GOOD LUCK!

>> THANK YOU, TED.

>> Ted: THIS FOCUSES ON THERAPY ANIMALS INCLUDING ANIMAL-ASSISTED SERVICES AND WE'RE TALKING MANY HORSES CALLED "TENDER LITTLE HEARTS" AND EQUINE THERAPY AND JOINED BY TERRY HOLMES-STEYK AND CINDY GIBSON ALONG WITH MAZY, A THERAPY HORSE.

GOOD LORD, WE HAVE A HORSE ON THE PROGRAM.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: GOOD ASTROYOU ALLTO HAVE YOU ALL.

TALK TO US HOW THIS GOT STARTED AND WHAT YOU DO HERE.

>> OUR MISSION IS TO IMPROVE LITERACY, TO PROMOTE POSITIVE LIFE CHOICES AND TO ENCOURAGE PERSONAL DEVELOPMENT, PARTICULARLY WITH CHILDREN, WITH YOUR READING PROGRAM.

AND THEN WE ALSO WORK WITH SENIORS WITH IT BE WITH OCCUPATIONAL THERAPISTS AND ECLECTIC.

>> Ted: THEY PROVIDE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, CORRECT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE, NONJUDGMENTAL, JOY, EMPOWERMENT AND FULL OF NOTHING BUT GOOD VIBES FOR THE PEOPLE THEY INTERACT WITH.

>> Ted: CINDY, HOW DID YOU GET STARTED AND FORM ALL OF THIS?

WERE YOU HORSE PEOPLE AND SAID, LET'S DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT?

>> ACTUALLY, WE STARTED WITH ANOTHER ORGANIZATION AND THEY HAD TO RELOCATE BACK EAST AND WE SAW THE BENEFITS AND WE DECIDED TO GO AHEAD AND CREATE A NONPROFIT BECAUSE WE HAD OUR EXPERIENCE TO AND WE KNOW OUR EDUCATION IS THERE AND TRAINING IS THERE AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT STARTED.

WE DECIDED TO DO IT.

>> Ted: TELL ME ABOUT MAZY.

WHAT'S MAZY'S STORY HERE?

>> MAZY USED TO BE AN INTERNATIONAL SHOW HORSE.

WHEN HE RETIRED, THE OWNER WANTED HIM TO HAVE A JOB AND HAPPY HOME AND STILL BE IN THE PUBLIC BECAUSE HE HAS THAT PERSONALITY TO DO THIS KIND OF WORK.

SO THEY DONATED HIM TO US AND WE GOT HIM CERTIFIED AND NOW HE'S THE STAR.

>> Ted: CINDY MENTIONED ANIMALS HAVE TO BE SUITED FOR THIS KIND OF THING AND DO YOU TRAIN THEM?

CAN YOU TELL FROM A DISTANCE AND KNOW IMMEDIATELY THIS WILL WORK AND THAT ONE NOT SO MUCH.

>> A GOOD PART OF IT IS THEIR TEMPERAMENT AND ESPECIALLY A RESCUE BECAUSE A LOT MINIATURE HORSES AND DONKEYS WERE SHOW ANIMALS.

MAZY IS USED TO ADORATION AND COPYING AND PEOPLE WORKING WITH HIM.

BUT WE DO A LOT OF DESENSITIZING AND GO TO AN OUTDOOR RESTAURANT AND INTERACTING WITH PEOPLE.

WE WALK ON TRAILS AND AROUND BICYCLES AND JUST SEE HOW THEY ACT.

WHEN THEY HAVE A TEMPERAMENT LIKE THIS, IT DOESN'T TAKE TO GET THEM QUALIFIED AND WE'RE READY TO GO.

>> Ted: CINDY, WHEN YOU TAKE THEM TO PLACES AND HAVE THEM MEET PEOPLE, HOW DO THEY REACT?

>> BRIGHT EYES.

I DON'T CARE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR LIFE, IF THEY'RE IN A HOSPITAL OR ON THE BED AND LIFE IS LITTLE TOUGH FOR THEM, WE BRING THEM IN AND THEY LIGHT UP.

I MEAN, YOU CAN'T BELIEVE, FIRST OF ALL, THAT HORSE IS IN A HOSPITAL OR IN THE SCHOOL WITH CHILDREN.

SO YOU HAVE TO CALM THEM DOWN.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: AGAIN, TALKING TO OLDER FOLKS WITH LONELINESS ISSUES AND FOR YOUNG KIDS AND LEARNING, IS THERE A PROCESS THERE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

AND THERE'S THEY'RE THE PERFECT SIZE.

NOT ONLY FOR SENIORS BECAUSE THEY'RE IN A WHEELCHAIR BECAUSE WE'RE EYE-TO-EYE AND FOR CHILDREN, THE SAME THING.

THEY DON'T WANT SOMEBODY LOOKING DOWN.

THE MINIMUM NOURTHEY HAVE AN INSTANT BOND AND ENGAGE AND CAN TELL THE HORSES, PAYING ATTENTION AND WHEN THOSE CHILDREN READ A BOOK TURN IT AROUND AND SHOWING THE HORSE THE PICTURE, YOU KNOW WE DON'T EXIST AND ALL ABOUT THAT BOND BETWEEN THEM AND THAT CHILD.

>> Ted: SOME DONKEYS INCLUDED, AS WELL.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> TWO MONTURE MINIATURE DONKEYS AND ANOTHER MINIATURE HORSE AND THEY GO ON TRIPS, TOO.

THEY GO INTO SCHOOLS AND PARADES AND WHATEVER WE'RE DOING.

>> Ted: IS THERE A PLAN -- ARE YOU CONTINUALLY ADDING TO THE STOCK, IF YOU WILL?

OR GOOD NEW FOR NOW?

[ Laughter ] >> IT DEPENDS ON OUR SCHEDULES AND WHAT WE'RE DOING.

>> BECAUSE WE HAVE FIVE TOTAL AND WE ALSO HAVE FRIENDS THAT HAVE QUALIFIED HORSES, SO OFTEN, IF WE HAVE A LARGE EVENT BECAUSE AT A SCHOOL, WE'LL HAVE 125 CHILDREN AND WE HAVE AN HOUR AND A HALF TO GET THROUGH THAT PROGRAM WITH THEM.

SO WE HELP FRIENDS COME SO WE MIGHT HAVE SIX OR SEVEN TEAMS THERE AND THAT WAY THE KIDS REALLY GET QUALITY TIME WITH EACH ANIMAL.

>> Ted: AS FAR AS THE ANIMALS ARE CONCERNED, CAN YOU TELL WHEN ITS HAD ENOUGH?

>> WE DEFINITELY DO WITH OUR FEMALE HORSE.

WE HAVE A LITTLE M ARC MARE AND AFTER THE 500th BOW, OK, MOM, I'M DONE.

THEY'RE GOOD FOR AN HOUR, HOUR AND A HALF AND THEY'RE DONE.

CAN YOU IMAGINE HAVING YOU TOUCH FOR THAT LENGTH OF TIME?

THEY'RE SO TOLERANT AND OFTEN, WE HAVE CHILDREN OR SENIORS HUGS, PRESSING FOREHEAD TO FOREHEAD AND THEY'RE ABSORBING ALL OF THAT ENERGY.

AND THEY GET BREAKS.

WE DO TRY TO ROTATE THE STOCK.

SO MAZY WOULDN'T GO EVERY DAY BECAUSE IT'S THREE TO FOUR VISITS A WEEK.

>> Ted: CINDY, WHERE CAN WE FOUND OUT YOUR INFORMATION AND MORE ABOUT M MAZY?

>> TENDERLITTLEHEARTS.ORG.

AND WE HAVE ALL OF OUR THERAPY ANIMALS ON THERE AND A LOT OF GREAT INFORMATION.

WE HAVE A LOT OF VIDEOS AND FUN THINGS, AS WELL, SOME FUN FACTS.

WE HAVE ACTIVITY BOOKS THAT WE BRING TO THE SCHOOL THAT WE LOVE TO GIVE TO CHILDREN AND ALSO BEING A NONPROFIT, ALL OF THESE DONATIONS.

WE'RE A QUALIFIED CHARITABLE DONATION AND IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR ARIZONA RESIDENTS.

>> Ted: TERRY, CINDY, MAZY, SON OF A GUN, THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!