>>> NOW, LOUISIANA LIBRARIAN AMANDA JONES NEVER IMAGINED HER LINE OF WORK WOULD MAKE HER A TARGET OF WORK BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED AFTER SHE SPOKE OUT AGAINST BOOK BANS IN JULY OF 2022.

SHE WROTE ABOUT THE EMOTIONAL EXPERIENCE IN A BOOK CALLED "THE LIBRARIAN."

HERE SHE IS.

A WARNING.

SOME OF THE LANGUAGE YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE AND HEAR IS OFFENSIVE.

>> THANKS.

AMANDA JONES, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE ARE SPEAKING WITH YOU NOT JUST BECAUSE YOU ARE A LIBRARIAN IN LOUISIANA WHO HAS WRITTEN AN AMAZING BOOK CALLED "THE LIBRARIAN: THE FIGHT AGAINST BOOK BANNING IN AMERICA."

BUT HOW DID THIS ALL COME TO BE?

YOU'RE AN ENGLISH TEACHER, MOVING TO BECOME A LIBRARIAN.

NOT A POSITION THAT PEOPLE WOULD THINK OF AT THE CENTER OF A CULTURE WAR.

>> YES.

I'M A LIBRARIAN AND ALL DID I WAS GIVE A PEOPLE IS ABOUT INTELLECTUAL FREEDOM AND STANDING UP AGAINST CENSORSHIP IN MY LOCAL LIBRARY.

>> WHAT MADE YOU WANT TO GO TO THAT MEETING IN THE FIRST PLACE?

>> WELL, WE HAVE HAD SOME ISSUES IN A NEIGHBORING PARISH IN LOUISIANA.

WE'RE PARISHES, NOT COUNTIES.

THERE'S AN EXTREMIST GROUP THAT HAD BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN GETTING FUNDING CUT FOR THE PARISH NEXT DOOR TO US IN OUR LOCAL PUBLIC LIBRARY, GETTING CAJUN HISTORY DISPLACED, AND MOVING BOOKS.

AND THEY TURNED THEIR SIGHTS ON OUR PARISH.

I KNEW I NEEDED TO GET THERE AND SPEAK AT THE PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD BEFORE THEY GOT TO OUR PARISH LIBRARY SYSTEM AND STARTED DOING THE SAME THING.

>> SO YOU MAKE A SPEECH AT A LIBRARY BOARD.

AGAIN, NOT SOMEWHERE THAT I EXPECT FIREWORKS TO FLY.

WHAT HAPPENED DURING THAT MEETING?

WHAT HAPPENED AFTER?

>> WELL, I WAS ONE OF AROUND 30 PEOPLE THAT SPOKE AT THE MEETING AND PRETTY MUCH EVERYBODY AT THE MEETING WAS FROM OUR COMMUNITY EXCEPT THE OUTSIDE EXTREMIST GROUP WHO SPOKE AGAINST OUR LIBRARY.

WE ALL SAID PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THINGS.

THAT WE HAD POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE AND WE LOVED OUR LIBRARY AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS THAT.

FOUR DAYS LATER I WOKE UP TO A TARGETED SMEAR CAMPAIGN AGAINST ME.

TWO MINUTES WERE POSTING AWFUL MEMES ABOUT ME AND SAYING HORRIBLE THINGS ONLINE ABOUT ME.

>> I WAS HESITANT TO READ SOME OF THESE COMMENTS.

I WANT, FOR OUR AUDIENCE, TO ILLUSTRATE THE KIND OF STUFF YOU WERE GETTING HERE.

ONE SAID, CONTINUE WITH YOUR LGBT AGENDA ON OUR CHILDREN BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO PUT YOUR FAT EVIL COMY ASS IN THE DIRT VERY SOON BITCH.

WE KNOW WHERE YOU WORK AND LIVE.

YOU HAVE A LARGE TARGET ON YOUR BACK.

CLICK, CLICK.

SEE YOU SOON.

WHEN YOU SAW THAT, WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION?

>> I WAS HYSTERICAL.

I'VE BEEN HERE 24 YEARS.

AND I HAVE GOTTEN NOTHING BUT PRAISE AND HIGH OBSERVATIONS, AND I HAVE A LOT OF PARENTAL COMMUNICATION BACK AND FORTHWITH PARENTS.

I'VE NEVER HAD ANYTHING EVEN REMOTELY CLOSE TO THAT.

I WAS SHOCKED.

HYSTERICAL.

>> WHAT DID IT DO TO YOU?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY ROUGH.

PEOPLE WERE CALLING ME AWFUL NAMES.

THESE ARE PEOPLE THAT I'VE GROWN UP WITH.

I LIVE IN A VERY SMALL TOWN IN LOUISIANA.

I'M A 46-YEAR RESIDENT.

I'VE LIVED HERE MY WHOLE LIFE.

IT WAS PEOPLE I KNOW THAT WERE JOINING IN.

IT'S VERY HORRIBLE TO SEE PEOPLE THAT YOU KNOW JOIN IN AND JUST KIND OF DOG PILE ON YOU.

AND I SPENT DAYS CRYING SO HARD.

MY EYES SWELLED SHUT.

I HAD TO TAKE -- IT'S NOT JUST ONLINE.

IT'S IN PERSON.

THEY SAY AWFUL THING TO ME IN PERSON.

I CAN'T GO GROCERY SHOPPING.

I'M SCARED TO GO OUTSIDE IN MY COMMUNITY.

IT HAS BEEN TWO YEARS.

THEY TAKE PICTURES OF ME.

THEY STILL POST AWFUL THINGS ABOUT ME.

THEY TRY TO GET ME FIRED IN MY JOB.

I'VE DONE NOTHING WRONG.

IT TAKES A TOLL ON ME.

I HAD TO TAKE A MEDICAL LEAVE FROM WORK.

I WAS HAVING PANIC ATTACKS.

>> CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT KINDS OF STEPS YOU'VE TAKEN FOR YOUR OWN MENTAL HEALTH CONSIDERING YOU'RE STILL LIVING IN THIS COMMUNITY?

>> YES.

WE GOT SECURITY CAMERAS AROUND OUR HOME.

I GOT SECURITY CAMERAS ON MY VEHICLE.

I DO HAVE A WEAPON IN THE HOME BECAUSE I'M SCARED FOR MY LIFE.

I DO THERAPY FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY LIFE, I GO TO THERAPY.

I HAVE TO TAKE ANTI-ANXIETY MEDICATION FOR PANIC ATTACKS.

I TRY TO SURROUND MYSELF WITH POSITIVE PEOPLE AS BEST I CAN.

YOU KNOW, IT HASN'T BEEN AN EASY TWO YEARS.

I DON'T THINK IT IS GETTING BETTER ANY TIME SOON.

>> WHY TARGET LIBRARIES?

WHY ARE THEY THE BATTLEGROUNDS?

WHAT MADE THEM COME AFTER YOU?

>> I THINK THEY CAME AFTER ME BECAUSE I WAS ONE OF THE MORE PROMINENT PEOPLE WHO SPOKE THAT EVENING.

I WAS THE 2021 NATIONAL SCHOOL LIBRARIAN OF THE YEAR AND THE STATE LIBRARIAN OF THE YEAR.

SO THAT'S MY THEORY.

I WAS IN A DRESSED UP IN A SUIT AND I WAS DRESSED UP COMPARED TO OTHER PEOPLE AT THE MEETING, I GUESS.

BASICALLY, IT IS TWO DIFFERENT ENTITIES CAME AFTER ME.

ONE WAS A LOCAL GUY JOINING IN.

I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO CALL IT, AND ONE PERSON WAS AN OUTSIDE EXTREMIST GROUP THAT DOES IT TO LIBRARIANS ALL ACROSS OUR STATE.

>> WHAT EXACTLY IS HAPPENING?

WHAT ARE THEY ADVOCATING FOR?

IS IT SPECIFIC BOOKS THEY WANT BANNED?

WHAT IS THEIR CONTENTION?

>> WELL, THEY CLAIM THAT THEY'RE SEXUALLY EXPLICIT BOOKS IN CHILDREN'S SECTIONS OF THE LIBRARIES.

THEY NEVER HAVE ANY TITLES.

THEY JUST SAY THEY'RE THERE.

THERE ARE SOME BOOKS, SEXUAL HEALTH BOOKS OR BOOKS FOR OLDER TEENS THAT ARE NEVER FOUND IN THE CHILDREN'S SECTION.

THEY ARE WRITTEN FOR TEENAGERS THAT ARE FOUND IN THE OLDER TEEN'S SECTION.

AND OUR LIBRARIES ALL HAVE POLICY THAT SAY MINORS CANNOT BE UNACCOMPANIED UNDER THE AGE OF 13.

THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PARENT WITH THEM.

BUT IT'S SEXUAL HEALTH BOOKS ABOUT REPRODUCTION.

>> YOU HAVE TRIED TO TAKE THEM TO COURT TO SUE FOR DEFAMATION.

AND RIGHT NOW, THAT WAS FOUND WITHOUT MERIT.

AND YOU ARE APPEALING.

EXPLAIN WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THIS ON THE LEGAL FRONT?

>> SO THE LOCAL ELECTED JUDGE SAID IT IS JUST THEIR OPINION THAT I DO ALL THESE HORRIBLE THINGS AND WOULDN'T ALLOW MY ATTORNEY TO READ APPLY ENTIRE SPEECH INTO RECORD BEFORE DISMISSING THE ENTIRE CASE.

SO WE ARE APPEALING.

I LOST MY APPEAL ON A TECHNICALITY SO NOW WE'RE APPEALING TO THE LOUISIANA SUPREME COURT JUST FOR THE RIGHT TO HAVE A TRIAL TO BRING MY DEFAMERS IN FRONT OF A JURY OF MY PEERS.

ALL I'M ASKING IS FOR A DOLLAR AND AN APOLOGY.

THAT'S ALL I WANT.

>> THE PEOPLE IN THIS LAWSUIT THAT YOU'RE SUING, DO THEY SAY, HOW COULD I BE DEFAMING HER?

SHE HAS BECOME AN INTERNATIONAL STAR.

SHE'S ON PROGRAMS LIKE THIS ONE NOW.

SHE HAS A GROUP THAT SHE STARTED.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT ARGUMENT?

>> WELL, FOR STARTERS, IF THEY HADN'T HARASSED ME, I WOULD STILL BE A SCHOOL LIBRARIAN IN A TWO RED-LIGHT TOWN THEMSELVES WANTED TO SILENCE ME.

I THOUGHT THE BEST RECOURSE, I'M NOT GOING TO ARGUE WITH THEM ON SOCIAL MEDIA.

THE ONLY RECOURSE THAT I THOUGHT I HAD WAS TO SPREAD THE WORDS, TELL MY STORY.

AND I'LL TELL MY STORY TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO LISTEN AS LONG AS THEY'RE HARASSING ME.

I HAVE NO OTHER RECOURSE.

>> WHAT IS THE CLIMATE LIKE IN LOUISIANA?

I HEARD THERE WAS A REASON LAW PASSED THAT YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO HAVE A CERTIFICATION OR ANY SORT OF ADVANCED LEARNING TO BE A LIBRARIAN ANYMORE.

>> YEAH.

WE HAD NINE ANTI-LIBRARY BILLS THIS PAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN LOUISIANA.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT OUR GOVERNOR, OUR CURRENT GOVERNOR, HAS PUSHED FOR.

THAT WAS HIS PLATFORM WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR GOVERNOR.

HE CREATED A TIP LINE TO REPORT LIBRARIANS WHO WERE GIVING SEXUALLY EXPLICIT MATERIAL TO CHILDREN EVEN THOUGH HE COULD PROVIDE NO EVIDENCE IT WAS HAPPENING.

THAT WAS ONE OF HIS BIG PLATFORMS.

TO USE US AS PAWNS TO HELP GET ELECTED.

BUT WE HAD NINE ANTI-LIBRARY BILLS.

ONLY ONE PASSED BUT IT WAS TOO WATERED DOWN IN REQUIREMENTS FOR PUBLIC LIBRARY DIRECTORS SO THEY NO LONGER HAVE TO HAVE A DEGREE.

THAT'S SO THAT OUR CURRENT LIBRARY DIRECTORS CAN BE REPLACED WITH UNQUALIFIED PEOPLE.

THE RUMORS WERE PASTORS AND OTHER PEOPLE NOT QUALIFIED.

>> SO WE'VE SEEN A POLITICALIZATION OF WHAT OTHERWISE WE WOULD THINK IS ONE OF THE LEAST POLITICAL JOBS IN THE COUNTRY, TO BE A LIBRARIAN.

NOW AT LEAST IN LOUISIANA, IF THOSE DIRECTORS CAN BE REPLACED, THEN I GUESS IT KIND OF IS WHEREVER THE WIND BLOWS.

WHOEVER IS IN POWER AT THAT POINT.

>> AND WE'RE LUCKY THE OTHER BILLS DIDN'T PASS.

THERE WERE SEVERAL OTHER BILLS.

ONE BILL, HB 777, IF WE WENT TO, IF WE WENT TO AN AMERICAN LIBRARY CONFERENCE, WE ASKED TO BE REIMBURSED THROUGH OUR WORK, THAT WE COULD SERVE TWO YEARS HARD LABOR IN PRISON.

IT'S JUST, IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

LIBRARIANS, WE DON'T GO INTO OUR JOBS FOR MONEY OR FAME OR FORTUNE.

WE LOVE KIDS, WE LOVE THE COMMUNITY AND WE WANT TO HELP PROVIDE RESOURCES.

SO TO ME THAT SHOULD BE A FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT.

THERE ARE SO MANY UNTRUTHS BEING TOLD ALL ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.

>> SO TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT THAT.

NOW LET'S ZOOM OUT ONE STEP FURTHER.

WHERE IS THIS EFFORT TO BAN BOOKS OR CONSTRAIN THE POWER OF LIBRARIANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY?

WHAT DO WE SEE HAPPENING?

>> IT'S IN EVERY SINGLE STATE, ALL 50 STATES.

AND IT HAPPENS AT THE LOCAL LEVEL IN EACH STATE.

WE HAVE STATES LIKE MISSOURI PASSED A LAW AGAINST LIBRARIANS, TO IMPRISON LIBRARIANS.

IN UTAH, THEY CREATED A LAW IF IF THREE SCHOOL DISTRICTS DON'T LIKE A BOOK, THEN THE BOOKS ARE BANNED ACROSS THE STATE FROM EVERY SCHOOL.

THIS IS SWEEPING LEGISLATION THAT IS HAPPENING ALL ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

LIBRARIANS ARE BEING HARASSED.

MY SITUATION IS NOT UNIQUE.

I CAN NAME A LIBRARIAN IN EVERY STATE LIKE ME WHO HAS BEEN TARGETED AND HARASSED AND DEFAMED.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE OF LIBRARIES.

EVENTUALLY, PEOPLE WILL LEAVE THE PROFESSION AND IT'S HAPPENING TO SCHOOL LIBRARIES AND PUBLIC LIBRARIES.

>> IS THERE ALREADY A CHILLING EFFECT?

IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO GET A PUBLIC REQUEST OF ALL THE EMAILS YOU'VE WRITTEN, IS THAT HAVING AN EFFECT ON SOMEONE WHO IS CHOOSING TO BE A LIAR RARIAN?

>> YES.

IT IS VERY INTIMIDATING WHEN THEY CONSTANT SUBMIT PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS.

IT IS AN INTIMIDATION FACTOR.

WHAT YOU'RE SEEING IS LIBRARIANS ARE SCARED TO OPEN BOOKS.

IT IS ANY BOOKS WITH LGBTQ CHARACTERS OR WITH PEOPLE OF COLOR.

IT IS CREATING A SOFT SENSORSHIP EFFECT.

LIBRARIANS ARE SCARED TO ORDER BOOKS SO IN TURN THERE WILL BE STUDENTS NOT REPRESENTED ON THE SHELVES IN THE LIBRARY.

>> THERE'S A PASSAGE FROM YOUR BOOK THAT YOU WRITE.

I HAVE TAUGHT QUEER STUDENTS, THEY ARE NAMED CALLED, I HAVE TAUGHT THEM.

THEY GREW UP AND TOOK THEIR OWN LIVES DUE TO THE LONELINESS OF THE OSTRACIZATION AND HAVE WATCHED OUR YOUNGER CITIZENS MOVE AWAY FROM OUR PARISH TO MORE INCLUSIVE ENVIRONMENTS BECAUSE THEY ARE SICK OF THEIR ILL TREATMENT.

CONNECTION THOSE DOTS FOR US A LITTLE MORE FOR US.

WHY IS IT SO SIGNIFICANT FOR A CHILD WHO MIGHT BE LGBTQ+ TO SEE THEMSELVES IN A BOOK?

>> WELL, BOOKS SAVE LIVES.

NOT JUST THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY.

WE HAVE A LOT OF KIDS IN FOSTER CARE.

KIDS WHO HAVE PARENTS WITH DRUG ADDICTION.

KIDS CAN SEE A BOOK AND SEE THAT THEY'RE NOT ALONE.

IT IS HAPPENING TO OTHER PEOPLE.

THEY CAN ASK FOR HELP IF THEY'RE IN SITUATIONS AT HOME.

WE ALL HAVE, WHETHER OR NOT ANYONE WANTS TO ADMIT IT OR NOT, WE HAVE STUDENTS AND HOUSEHOLDS WHERE THERE ARE TWO MOMS AND TWO DADS.

THEY PAY TAX LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND THEY DESERVE TO HAVE BOOKS IN THEIR LIBRARY THAT HAVE CHARACTERS WHICH REPRESENT THEIR FAMILIES.

>> A LOT OF THE PUSHBACK SEEMS TO BE WRAPPED IN THE LANGUAGE OF PARENTAL RIGHTS.

ON THE SURFACE, IT LOOKS LIKE A REASONABLE ARGUMENT.

THAT A APPARENTLY SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THEIR CHILD READS.

WHAT'S SO WRONG WITH THAT LINE OF THINKING?

>> THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH A PARENT WANTING TO BE IN CHARGE OF WHAT THEY READ AND WHAT THEY HAVE ACCESS TO.

I AM ALL FOR PARENTAL RIGHTS.

WE ARE SEEING BAD-FAITH ACTORS DOING MASS CHALLENGES.

WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN MY COMMUNITY IS NOT PARENTS, NOT EVEN PEOPLE WITH LIBRARY CARDS THAT ARE CHALLENGING BOOKS THEY'VE NEVER READ BECAUSE SOMEONE TOLD THEM TO.

SOMETIMES IN OTHER PARISHES IN OTHER STATES, SOMETIMES OTHER BOOKS, THESE PEOPLE DON'T HAVE PARENTS IN THE SCHOOLS.

THEY SOMETIMES DON'T EVEN LIVE IN THOSE COMMUNITIES.

I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH A PARENT SAYING I DON'T LIKE THIS BOOK FOR MY CHILD.

CAN YOU MAYBE NOT LET MY CHILD HAVE ACCESS TO IT.

THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'RE SEEING.

WE'RE SEEING EXTREMIST GROUPS WITH HUNDREDS OF THESE BOOK CHALLENGES ALL ACROSS THE U.S. >>> IS THERE A PLAY BOOK HERE?

WALK ME THROUGH STEP BY STEP.

WHAT HAPPENS TO A LIBRARIAN NOW IN 50 STATES ACROSS AMERICA?

>> WELL, WE TRY TO DO OUR JOBS.

OFTENTIMES IS SOMEONE IN THE COMMUNITY, IF YOU TRACE IT BACK, IT'S USUALLY TO A DARK MONEY NONPROFIT GROUP STIRRING UP DRAMA, THEY'LL TAKE A PAGE OF A BOOK OUT OF CONTEXT.

THEY'LL POST IT AND RILE EVERYONE UP.

THEN THE POLITICIANS SWOOP IN TO SAVE THE DAY WITH SOLUTIONS TO PROBLEMS THAT DON'T EXIST.

USUALLY IT HAPPENS WHEN THERE IS A LOCAL ELECTION.

THEN THEY WILL TRY TO OVERTAKE PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARDS, SCHOOL BOARDS.

THOSE PEOPLE GET INTO POWER.

THEN YOU SEE LEGISLATION.

THE ULTIMATE GOAL IS TO DEFUND SCHOOLS AND PUSH THE SCHOOLS INTO SYSTEMS.

>> I KNOW YOU'RE ACTIVE WITH THE LIBRARIES AROUND THE COUNTRY.

WHAT ARE THE STORIES THAT YOU'RE HEARING FROM OTHER LIBRARIANS ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THEIR, NOT JUST SCHOOL DISTRICTS BUT IN THEIR COMMUNITIES?

>> I TELL YOU, IT'S SO HARD TO GET PHONE CALLS FROM LIBRARIANS THAT CRY THAT THIS IS HAPPENING TO THEM.

I GET MESSAGES AND EMAILS EVERY WEEK.

LIBRARIANS JUST CRYING, UPSET.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHY THEY'RE BEING TARGETED.

PEOPLE IT IS DISHEARTENING.

THE FACT THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE A LIBRARIAN SUPPORT GROUP IS SOMETHING I NEVER THOUGHT WE WOULD DO.

I HAVE TO HAVE.

IT'S JUST SAD.

IT IS HAPPENING TO SCHOOL LIBRARIANS AND PUBLIC LIBRARIANS AND I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE STATE OF OUR LIBRARIES.

THIS ERA OF HARASSMENT OF LIBRARIANS AND CENSORSHIP AND BOOK BANS, EVEN IF WE SOLVE THE PROBLEM IN THE NEXT YEAR, WE'LL SEE THE EFFECTS FOR DECADES.

>> TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT THE SCALE OF THE BOOK BANS.

I KNOW THEY SAID THERE WERE A NUMBER OF ATTEMPTED BOOK BANS IN THE LAST PART OF LAST YEAR.

>> YEAH.

THEY REPORTED THIS WEEK THAT THERE WERE 10,000 REPORTED BOOK BANS IN THE LAST YEAR IN SCHOOLS.

GO THE A.L.A., THE AMERICAN LIBRARY ASSOCIATION, PUTS OUT A REPORT.

IT SEEMS LIKE LAST YEAR IT WAS ABOUT 4,000.

IT IS GROWING EXPONENTIALLY.

BUT ON THE OTHER SIDE, WE ARE SEEING COURT CASES IN FLORIDA AND TEXAS AND THEY HAVE HAD SUCCESSFUL WE'RE HOPING THAT MAYBE THIS WILL SLOW IT DOWN OR STOP IT.

I THINK A LOT HINGES ON OUR NEXT PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION.

>> IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A SALES PITCH TO AMERICA ON WHY THIS ELECTION IS SO CONSEQUENTIAL, WHAT WOULD THAT BE?

>> WELL, I WOULD SAY THE PUSH AGAINST LIBRARIES IS KIND OF THE SAME PUSH AGAINST PUBLIC EDUCATION.

WOMEN'S RIGHTS, RIGHTS OF CHILDREN, HUMAN RIGHTS ISSUES.

IT'S ALL CONNECTED.

SO LIBRARIES MIGHT NOT BE IN THE TOP FIVE BUT A LOT OF THOSE OTHER ISSUES MIGHT BE IN THE TOP FIVE.

SO YOU VOTE FOR SOMEONE WHO WILL BE FOR HUMAN RIGHTS, WOMEN'S RIGHTS, REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS.

THIS CAN HELP LIBRARIES, TOO.

>> AMANDA JONES, THE AUTHOR OF "THAT LIBRARIAN, THE FIGHT AGAINST BOOK BANNING IN AMERICA."

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.