(upbeat rock music playing) (clicker clicking) (static buzzing) (upbeat saxophone music) (TV rattling) (curtain rails rattling) (calm piano music playing) (static rattling) (upbeat playful music) >>One thing that's always been interesting about Jefferson's relationship with Madison, and Jefferson's relationship with Monroe, is that in both cases, they kind of started out as a mentor protege, but in both cases quickly evolved to relationships between equals.

>>Some have said Jefferson was like a great power, a motor on a boat.

>>A more lively person, >>But he was also the sort of most hotheaded of the three.

>>Then maybe a little more likely to act.

>>Madison was somewhat the rudder.

>>And Madison was more even tempered.

>>Not that he was a dud.

>>I've heard Madison called "Jefferson's handler."

>>And then Monroe was just a good solid public servant.

>>Monroe was much more hands-on.

>>He was thoughtful, and always sound in his judgments.

>>Much more dealing with the nuts and bolts of life.

>>But would not have had quite the intellectual, high octane.

>>Had tremendous respect for one another.

>>And they had so many things in common.

>>Didn't always have the same ideas.

They argued.