
Thursday, October 9, 2025
Season 1 Episode 3661 | 27m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
San Diego's federal workers are closer to missing a paycheck as the shutdown continues.
As the shutdown drags on, thousands of federal employees and military members are closer to missing a paycheck — many here in San Diego. Plus, an update to a KPBS investigation. How a local police department's surveillance data is getting to federal immigration authorities. And a festival is coming to Oceanside this weekend, inviting everyone to experience the best of Oaxacan culture.
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Thursday, October 9, 2025
Season 1 Episode 3661 | 27m 30sVideo has Closed Captions
As the shutdown drags on, thousands of federal employees and military members are closer to missing a paycheck — many here in San Diego. Plus, an update to a KPBS investigation. How a local police department's surveillance data is getting to federal immigration authorities. And a festival is coming to Oceanside this weekend, inviting everyone to experience the best of Oaxacan culture.
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>>> IT'S DAY NINE OF THE U.S.
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.
THANKS FOR JOINING US.
I'M JOHN CARROLL, IN FOR MY OWN TROUBLES.
TSA AGENTS ARE AMONG THE MANY FEDERAL EMPLOYEES WHO ARE STILL WORKING WITHOUT PAY.
KPBS REPORTER JACOB AIR TALKED WITH A LOCAL TSA UNION LEADER ABOUT WHAT MIGHT BE NEXT.
>> Reporter: GOING THROUGH SECURITY IS ROUTINE FOR AIRLINE PASSENGERS.
AGENTS FROM THE TRANSPORTATION SECURITY ADMINISTRATION CHECK I.D.S AND CHECKED BAGGAGE FOR THOUSANDS OF TRAVELERS EVERY DAY AT THE SAN DIEGO INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT.
FOR NOW, LOCAL AGENTS ARE STILL DOING THAT JOB DESPITE THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.
>> I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT THEY CAN'T GET THEIR, GET THEIR ACT TOGETHER.
IT'S VERY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE FEEL LIKE WE'RE PAWNS IN THIS WHOLE THING.
>> ROBERT MACK IS A LEAD TSA OFFICER AT THE AIRPORT.
HE IS ALSO CHIEF STEWARD FOR THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE UNION REPRESENTING TSA WORKERS.
>> RIGHT NOW, MORALE IS STILL PRETTY GOOD.
WE'RE COMING TO WORK, WE'RE WORKING HARD.
WE'VE ACTUALLY GOTTEN A LOT OF SUPPORT FROM THE PASSENGERS COMING THROUGH, SO, YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING INTO WORK IN THIS SITUATION.
>> Reporter: HE'S WORKED AT THE AIRPORT FOR OVER 20 YEARS, AND VIVIDLY REMEMBERS THE LAST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN THAT STARTED JUST BEFORE CHRISTMAS 2018 AND LASTED 35 DAYS.
>> IT WAS KIND OF ROUGH, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
YOU KNOW, WE WENT OVER A MONTH WITHOUT PAY.
PEOPLE HAPPEN TO MAKE DECISIONS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE, BUT THEY'RE PUTTING GAS IN THEIR CAR, FOOD IN THEIR BELLY.
>> MELISSA UPGRADE FLEW INTO THE AIRPORT TODAY FROM MINNESOTA WITH SOME FRIENDS.
SO FAR, SHE SAYS IT'S BEEN SMOOTH SAILING.
>> WAS REMARKABLY NORMAL.
WE WENT THROUGH SECURITY WITHOUT ANY ISSUE, WE TOOK OFF ON TIME.
SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, PEOPLE ARE STILL, WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THEM SHOWING UP FOR THEIR JOBS.
>> Reporter: SHE SAID THEY'RE AWARE OF THE SHUTDOWN, AND PLAN TO GET TO THE AIRPORT EARLY SUNDAY FOR THE FLIGHT HOME.
>> HOPEFUL THAT THAT CONTINUES.
HARD TO SAY THAT IT WILL, BUT TODAY'S EXPERIENCE WAS GREAT.
>> Reporter: MAX IS THIS WEEKEND, TSA WORKERS WILL GET A FINAL PARTIAL PAYCHECK FOR HOURS WORKED UNTIL THE SHUTDOWN.
HE DOESN'T KNOW WHEN THE NEXT ONE WILL COME AFTER THAT, AND SAYS MANY TSA AGENTS LIVE PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK.
>> I WANT TO SAY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STICK IT OUT, BUT THOSE THAT DON'T, YOU KNOW, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
YOU HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF YOURSELF AND YOUR FAMILY.
>> Reporter: AND SAYS TSA FAMILIES ARE STILL AT FULL STAFF AT THE AIRPORT, BUT DURING PAST GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWNS, SOME OFFICERS STOPPED COMING TO WORK.
TSA SAYS THEY HAVE NOT HAD ANY DELAYS IN OPERATION DUE TO CALLOUTS, BUT SET AN EXTENDED CUT DOWN COULD BE LONGER WAIT TIMES AT AIRPORTS.
JACOB AIR, KPBS NEWEST .
>>> WITH NO END IN SIGHT FOR THE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN, MORE THAN 100,000 SAN DIEGO SERVICEMEMBERS ARE LESS THAN A WEEK AWAY FROM MISSING A PAYCHECK.
KPBS MILITARY REPORTER ANDREW DYERS BEEN CATALOGUING RESOURCES TO HELP FAMILIES BRIDGE THE PAY GAP.
>> Reporter: AND MISSED PAYCHECK WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR MOST OF US, BUT FOR MANY MILITARY FAMILIES, IT'LL BE HARD TO RECOVER.
>> THERE IS DEFINITELY A FEELING OF ANXIETY, UNCERTAINTY, TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT ON TOP OF A LOT OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE.
>> Reporter: THIS IS MONICA MOON.
>> I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR THE STATE SAN DIEGO MILITARY FAMILY RESOURCE CENTER, AND THE DIRECTOR FOR THE SAN DIEGO MILITARY FAMILY COLLABORATIVE.
>> Reporter: WE'RE AT THE RESOURCE CENTER IN THE MURPHY CANYON MILITARY HOUSING NEIGHBORHOOD IN TERRACE AND.
SHE SAYS MILITARY FAMILIES ARE PARTICULARLY VULNERABLE TO PAY DISRUPTIONS.
MANY STRUGGLE EVEN WHEN PAID ON TIME, BECAUSE -- >> IT MAY NOT BE ENOUGH TO SUPPORT YOUR ENTIRE FAMILY.
>> Reporter: FOR A LOT OF FAMILIES, THE SERVICEMEMBER IS THE PRIMARY SOURCE OF INCOME.
>> BECAUSE OF THE CONSTANT MOVES, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR SPOUSES, POTENTIALLY, TO GET JOBS OR KEEP A CAREER PATH.
>> Reporter: MOON AND HER TEAM HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH MILITARY COMMANDERS AROUND THE COUNTY, AND ARE TRYING TO CONNECT FAMILIES TO AVAILABLE RESOURCES.
SAN DIEGO IS HOME TO ALMOST 100 NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS THAT CATER TO MILITARY AND VETERAN FAMILIES, BUT IT'S HARD TO KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO TURN.
>> WE WELCOME EVERYBODY TO COME OVER TO OUR RESOURCE CENTER.
WE'LL RAINSTORM TOGETHER TO SAY, HEY, MAYBE THIS RESOURCE WILL WORK, MAYBE THIS WON'T.
BUT EVEN IF IT'S JUST A TALK, WE HAVE STAFF HERE THAT ARE WILLING TO LISTEN AND HELP OUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
>> Reporter: THERE ARE FOOD BANKS, MOBILE FOOD BANKS, AND POP-UP FOOD DISTRIBUTIONS HAPPENING ALL THE TIME.
FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, LIKE USAA AND NAVY FEDERAL, ARE OFFERING INTEREST-FREE PAYCHECK LOANS TO MEMBERS WITH DIRECT DEPOSIT HISTORIES.
MOONS ADVICE FOR EVERYONE IS NOT TO PAY FOR ANYTHING YOU CAN'T GET FOR FREE, LIKE FOOD.
>> AND THEN SAVE THAT MONEY TO GO TOWARDS THINGS THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO OBTAIN.
>> Reporter: BRIAN OKADA IS THE DIRECTOR FOR USO CALIFORNIA.
HE SAYS IT'S NOT CLEAR HOW SUSTAINABLE THE NONPROFIT SUPPORT NETWORK IS BUT THEY'RE READY TO MEET THE CHALLENGE.
>> YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RESOURCES READY TO, YOU KNOW, TO GET ALLOCATED TO THIS.
WE KNOW THAT, LIKE YOU'RE SAYING, THIS COULD BE, YOU KNOW, A LONG ORDEAL.
>> Reporter: MORE INFORMATION ON WHERE TO TURN FOR SUPPORT, OR HOW TO OFFER SUPPORT, LINK ON OUR WEBSITE, KPBS.ORG.
ANDREW DYER, KPBS NEWS.
>>> HIGHWAY 78 IS SHUTDOWN, AND EVACUATION ORDERS ARE IN EFFECT AS CREWS BATTLE A FIRE JUST EAST OF RAMONA.
IT STARTED JUST BEFORE 2:00 THIS AFTERNOON NEAR KASTNER ROAD.
THE FIRE HAS GROWN TO 105 ACRES AND IS 15% CONTAINED.
CAUSES UNDER INVESTIGATION.
>>> WE GOT A COUPLE SHOWERS KICKING AROUND AS WE HAD THROUGH THE EVENING OVERNIGHT HOURS.
SO TONIGHT, 65, AND WATCH OUT FOR SOME OF THOSE PASSING SHOWERS.
WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE THE WET PATTERN INTO OUR FRIDAY, BUT DOES THE WE CAN OFFER ANY CHANGES FOR US?
BECAUSE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF TROPICAL MOISTURE IN THE PACIFIC.
I'LL BE BREAKING THAT DOWN IN JUST A MOMENT.
>>> THE CALIFORNIA ATTORNEY GENERAL SUED THE CITY OF EL CAJON, ALLEGING ITS SHARING OF LICENSE PLATE SURVEILLANCE DATA WITH POLICE DEPARTMENT OUTSIDE THE STATE IS ILLEGAL.
AN INVESTIGATION BY KPBS REPORTER GUSTAVO SALISH SHOWS HOW FAR THE SHARING HAS GONE.
>> Reporter: A KPBS INVESTIGATION REVEALED THAT DATA COLLECTED BY THE ALCOHOL AND POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS INCLUDED IN NATIONWIDE IMMIGRATION -RELATED SURVEYS.
NOW, THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN UNDER CALIFORNIA SANCTUARY LAWS WE FOUND MORE THAN 550 IMMIGRATION RELATED SEARCHES SO FAR THIS YEAR.
OUR INVESTIGATION SHOWS HOW POLICE DEPARTMENT FROM STATES AS FAR AWAY AS TEXAS, VIRGINIA, AND SOUTH CAROLINA ROUTINELY TAPPED EL CAJON SURVEILLANCE DATA FOR IMMIGRATION RELATED SEARCHES.
IN SOME CASES, ON BEHALF OF IMMIGRATION AND CUSTOMS ENFORCEMENT.
EARLIER THIS WEEK ATTORNEY GENERAL ROB ONTO SUED EL CAJON, ARGUING THAT STATE LAW FORBIDS LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS FROM SHARING THIS DATA WITH AGENCIES OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA.
>> THE WHOLE POINT OF THE RESTRICTIONS ON SHARING IS THAT ONCE IT'S SHARED WITH ANY ENTITY OUT OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, YOU LOSE CONTROL.
>> BANDA COULD NOT DEFINITIVELY SAY WHETHER EL CAJON DATA WAS USED SPECIFICALLY FOR IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.
>> I DON'T, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT WE KNOW THAT.
IT IS NAOVE TO NOT LIKE THAT RISK.
I MEAN, THAT'S THE WHOLE POINT THAT THE THAT'S WHY THE LAW WAS PASSED.
>> Reporter: BUT WE CAN.
OUR ANALYSIS SHOWS THAT POLICE DEPARTMENT OUTSIDE OF CALIFORNIA ROUTINELY USE SEARCH TERMS LIKE IMMIGRATION, IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT, IMMIGRATION VIOLATION, AND I.C.E.. THE DIRECTOR OF INVESTIGATIONS AT THE ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION.
>> IT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
IN CALIFORNIA, IT VIOLATES MULTIPLE LAWS TO USE THE SYSTEM TO, NOT ONLY FOR IMMIGRATION, BUT TO ALLOW AN EXTERNAL AND OUT-OF-STATE ENTITY TO ACCESS YOUR DATA.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MULTIPLE LAWS THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN VIOLATED IN THIS PROCESS.
>> Reporter: THAT FOUNDATION CHARITY DATA SET WITH KPBS THAT HELPED US DISCOVER THESE IMMIGRATION RELATED SEARCHES.
HERE'S HOW I EXPLAINED THE ANALYSIS TO A GROUP OF IMMIGRANT RIGHTS ACTIVISTS FROM EL CAJON THAT WE INVITED TO KPBS.
>> NOW, AS WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE, THE EL CAJON POLICE DEPARTMENT IS UNIQUE IN SAN DIEGO COUNTY.
IT IS THE ONLY LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT SHARES THE SYSTEM WITH OUT OF STATE AGENCIES.
>> Reporter: WE FILED A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, ASKING FOR AN AUDIT OF WHO WAS LOOKING THROUGH EL CAJON, NY.
IT HAS A LOT OF USEFUL INFORMATION.
>> IT HAS THE INDIVIDUAL OFFICER, THE DEPARTMENT, THE DATE AND THE TIME DOWN TO THE SECOND.
AND THIS IS IMPORTANT.
THIS IS KIND OF HOW WE FOUND OUR INFORMATION.
>> Reporter: BUT EL CAJON DATA DID NOT INCLUDE THE REASON FOR EACH SEARCH.
SO WE FOUND A WORKAROUND.
BY COMPARING IT TO DATA THAT WE GOT FROM THE ELECTRONIC FRONTIER FOUNDATION.
>> AND IN THEIR NETWORK AUDIT, IT DID INCLUDE A REASON, RIGHT HERE.
>> OH, WOW.
>> ONLY HAD TO DO WAS MATCH THE TIMESTAMPS ON BOTH DATA SETS FOR EXAMPLE, AN OFFICER NAMED T LIP FROM THE NAGS HEAD POLICE DEPARTMENT IN SOUTH CAROLINA CONDUCTED A NATIONWIDE SEARCH FOR IMMIGRATION ON APRIL 30th, EXACTLY AT 1:55 P.M.
AND 18 SECONDS.
LET'S SEE IF THAT SEARCH APPEARS ON EL CAJON'S DATA.
>> APRIL 30th.
WHAT DID WE SAY, 1:55:18?
>> THERE IT IS.
1:55:18.
>> -- WAS ONE OF THE PEOPLE WE SHARED OUR ANALYSIS WITH.
SHE'S WITH THE GROUP LATINOS, WHICH HAS PROTESTED EL CAJON SUPPORT FOR TRUMP'S IMMIGRATION POLICIES.
>> IT IS VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE UNCOVERING THE DATA, HOW IT WORKS, WHO MIGHT BE INVOLVED, HOW MANY CAMERAS, HOW IS THE CITY COOPERATING, ARE THEY NOT COOPERATING?
AND IT JUST BRINGS UP A WHOLE SLEW OF OTHER QUESTIONS THAT I THINK, YOU KNOW, IT'S OUR JOB TO LET THE RESIDENTS KNOW.
>> KPBS ALSO SHARED OUR ANALYSIS WITH EL CAJON POLICE CHIEF JEREMIAH LARSON, AND INVITED HIM TO REVIEW THE DATA.
HE DECLINED.
IN A PREVIOUS INTERVIEW, LARSON SAID THE POLICE DEPARTMENT PERFORMS REGULAR AUDITS TO ITS LICENSE PLATE READER PROGRAM.
>> WE DO REGULAR AUDITS, AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LIEUTENANT THAT OVERSEES THE PROGRAM AND MAKES SURE THAT WHEN PEOPLE ARE USING IT, THEY'RE USING IT FOR THE RIGHT PURPOSES AND LEGITIMATE REASONS.
>> Reporter: LATER, IN AN EMAIL, LARSON SUGGESTED THAT THE AUDITS ONLY INCLUDE INTERNAL SEARCHES PERFORMED BY EL CAJON POLICE OFFICERS, NOT THE EXTERNAL SEARCHES DONE BY OUTSIDE AGENCIES.
MOSS SAYS THE PEOPLE OF EL CAJON SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THIS LACK OF BASIC OVERSIGHT.
>> SO IT'S NOT SURPRISING TO HEAR, BUT IT SHOULD ANGER EVERYONE TO HEAR THEM SAY IT OUT LOUD.
>> HE SAYS CHIEF LARSON'S DECISION NOT TO INCLUDE EXTERNAL AUDITS SHOW THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CANNOT BE TRUSTED WITH THIS TECHNOLOGY.
>> IF YOU HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO MONITOR THAT STUFF, THEN YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE SYSTEM AT ALL.
LIKE, YOU HAVE JUST PROVEN THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THE CYBERSECURITY CHOPS, AT THE VERY BASIC, FUNDAMENTAL LEVEL, TO BE TRUSTED WITH DATA FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.
>> IT'S UNCLEAR IF THE EL CAJON POLICE DEPARTMENT KNEW ABOUT THESE IMMIGRATION RELATED SEARCHES.
CHIEF LARSON DIDN'T SAY WHETHER THE DEPARTMENT PLANS TO CHANGE THE DATA SHARING POLICY.
IN RESPONSE TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S LAWSUIT, EL CAJON MAYOR BILL WELLS DEFENDED THE PRACTICE, CALLING IT A CORNERSTONE OF EFFECTIVE POLICING.
GUSTAVO SALISH, KPBS NEWS .
>>> THE GROSSMONT UNION HIGH SCHOOL DISTRICT BOARD IS CONSIDERING THREE CONTROVERSIAL PROPOSALS AT ITS MEETING TONIGHT.
KPBS REPORTER ELAINE ALFARO HAS THOSE DETAILS.
>> Reporter: TOPPING THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT'S REGULAR BOARD MEETING OUR PROPOSED REVISIONS TO THE DISTRICT'S RELIGIOUS BELIEFS AND CUSTOMS POLICY.
ONE WOULD ALLOW PARENTS TO OPT THEIR CHILDREN OUT OF INSTRUCTION THAT THEY FEEL INFRINGES ON THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
ANOTHER LOOSENS RESTRICTIONS ON HOW TEACHERS CAN ENGAGE STUDENTS IN PRAYER OUTSIDE OF SCHOOL HOURS.
BOTH PROPOSALS COME AFTER RECENT U.S.
SUPREME COURT RULINGS.
DAN EATON IS A LOCAL EXPERT ON CONSTITUTIONAL LAW.
>> AND WHAT THE COURT SAID WAS THAT TEACHERS DON'T SHED THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL FREE-SPEECH AND FREE EXERCISE RIGHTS AT THE SCHOOLHOUSE DOOR AS LONG AS IT'S NOT DONE IN A COERCIVE SENSE AND AS LONG AS IT'S NOT DONE IN THEIR OFFICIAL CAPACITY.
>> Reporter: BOARD MEMBERS GARY WOODS, SCOTT ECKERT, ROB SHIELD, AND JIM KELLY HAVE HISTORICALLY VOTED AS A BLOCK ON CONSERVATIVE ISSUES.
IN AN EMAILED STATEMENT, BOARD PRESIDENT WOODS SAYS HE HOPES THE REVISIONS CLARIFIED THE RIGID LEDGES RIGHT OF STUDENTS AND STAFF BASED ON RECENT SUPREME COURT DECISIONS.
MEANWHILE, BOARD MEMBER CHRIS FIGHT WILL INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT TO MAKE CLEAR TEACHERS CANNOT LEAD PRAYER IN THE CLASSROOM.
>> THERE HAS BEEN A SOFTENING OF THE IDEA THAT, YOU KNOW, PUBLIC SCHOOLS SHOULD BASICALLY REFRAIN FROM GETTING INVOLVED IN RELIGION.
I MEAN, THEY CAN TEACH CLASSES ON RELIGION, OBVIOUSLY.
THAT'S FINE.
BUT I THINK EXPRESSION OF RELIGION, FOR ME, IN THE CLASSROOM, JUST OPENED A CAN OF WORMS THAT IS GOING TO BE PROBLEMATIC.
>> Reporter: THE BOARD WILL ALSO CONSIDER TWO OTHER COUPLES THAT HAPPENED POINTS OF TENSION FOR TEACHERS, STUDENTS, AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
IN MARCH, THE BOARD'S MAJORITY VOTED TO CUT ALL OF THE DISTRICT'S SCHOOL LIBRARIAN POSITIONS.
TONIGHT, THEY WILL CONSIDER A PROPOSAL TO HIRE ONE LIBRARIAN WHO WOULD OVERSEE ALL LIBRARIES IN THE DISTRICT.
ADDITIONALLY, THE BOARD IS CONSIDERING A NEW POLICY THAT WOULD RESTRICT WHERE PEOPLE CAN PROTEST OUTSIDE THE BOARD MEETINGS.
THE PUBLIC MEETING BEGINS AT 6:00 P.M.
IN THE GROSSMONT HIGH SCHOOL.
ELAINE ALFARO, KPBS NEWS .
>>> THE ENERGY DEMANDS OF A.I.
AND GLOBAL WARMING ARE CREATING AN IMPENDING ENERGY CRISIS.
THAT FINDING FROM A REPORT BY THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION.
KPBS CYTEC REPORTER THOMAS FUDGE TELLS US THE SAME REPORT SAYS NUCLEAR FUSION IS ONE ANSWER TO THE CRISIS, AND A POTENTIAL SOURCE OF WEALTH FOR CALIFORNIA.
>> FUSION, THE CREATION OF ENERGY BY FUSING ADAMS, ALREADY HAS A FOOTHOLD IN THE CALIFORNIA ECONOMY, NOT TO MENTION ITS WORLD-CLASS RESEARCH UNIVERSITIES.
THE SAN DIEGO EDC REPORT SAYS THE STATE HAS 16 CORE FUSION COMPANIES AND $2.2 BILLION IN FUNDING.
THE INDUSTRY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO GROW TO BETWEEN 48 AND $125 BILLION.
THAT'S THE UPSIDE.
BUT IT ALSO HAS REGULATORY UNCERTAINTY AND HIGH LAND COSTS.
EDUARDO VELASQUEZ IS WITH THE SAN DIEGO REGIONAL EDC.
HE SAYS CALIFORNIA IS STILL IN A GREAT PLACE TO MOVE FROM FUSION RESEARCH TO COMMERCIALIZATION.
>> WE LEAD IN TERMS OF TALENT, WE LEAD IN TERMS OF PRIVATE CAPITAL FLOWS THAT ARE COMING IN.
WE HAVE THE MOST FUSION DEVICES OUT OF ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD.
SO THE ASSETS ARE HERE, THE OPPORTUNITY IS HERE.
THE STATE IS READY TO SUPPORT.
THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES TO INVEST IN COMMERCIALIZING FUSION.
SO I THINK ALL THE INGREDIENTS ARE HERE.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>> Reporter: DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN SCOTT PETERS FROM CALIFORNIA'S 50th DISTRICTS THAT THE U.S.
IS FACING TREMENDOUS COMPETITION IN ENERGY RESEARCH AND PRODUCTION FROM CHINA.
HE SAID CALIFORNIANS MUST BE RECEPTIVE TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF FUSION POWER IN THEIR PART OF THE STATE.
>> THIS IS NOT FICTION.
THIS IS NOT THE STUFF THAT GENERATES WASTE.
IT DOESN'T GENERATE THE RISKS THAT NUCLEAR POWER, TRADITIONAL NUCLEAR POWER GENERATES.
SO IT'S A VERY SAFE THING.
WE SHOULD MAKE IT EASY.
>> IF YOU THING ABOUT FUSION ENERGY, IT IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL FORM OF ENERGY IN THE UNIVERSE.
>> AN ANTI-CHRISTIAN ON IS THE SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT FOR THE ENERGY GROUP AT GENERAL ATOMICS, WHO IS D 3-D FUSION REACTOR IS IN SAN DIEGO.
HE SAYS FUSION ENERGY TAKES PLACE ON THE SUN, DOING IT ON EARTH MEANS CONTAINING TREMENDOUS HEAT IN A POWER PLANT THAT NEEDS TO RUN 24/7.
>> EACH TIME WE RUN AN EXPERIMENT, WE CREATE CONDITIONS WITHIN B 3-D THAT MAKES IT THE HOTTEST POINT IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM, MEANING WE ARE ACHIEVING TEMPERATURES THAT ARE 10 TIMES HIGHER THAN THE SUN, BECAUSE TO GET TO FUSION ON EARTH, THAT'S WHAT YOU NEED TO DO.
>> IN THE FIELD SAY FUSION ENERGY COULD BE READY TO USE IN ABOUT 10 YEARS, BUT ONLY IF THE U.S.
AND CALIFORNIA DEVOTE THE MONEY AND RESOURCES NEEDED TO DO IT.
THOMAS FUDGE, KPBS NEWS.
>> THE COLLEGE AREA IS CLOSER TO HAVING A NEW COMMUNITY PLAN.
KPBS METRO REPORTER ANDREW BOWEN SAYS THE GOAL IS TO ALLOW MORE HOUSING NEAR SDSU.
>> SDSU'S STUDENT POPULATION HAS GROWN SIGNIFICANTLY IN RECENT DECADES.
THE UNIVERSITY HAS ALSO GROWN INTO A HUB OF EMPLOYMENT AND PUBLIC TRANSIT.
THE CITY'S NEW PROPOSAL WOULD KEEP MOST OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS ZONED FOR LOW- DENSITY SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, SHOWN HERE IN YELLOW.
BUT MAJOR CORRIDORS, LIKE MONTEZUMA ROAD, COLLEGE AVENUE, AND EL CAJON BOULEVARD COULD SEE MORE HIGH DENSITY HOUSING.
SEVERAL HOMEOWNERS TOLD THE CITY'S PLANNING COMMISSION ON THURSDAY THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH PARKS OR OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE TO SUPPORT THAT KIND OF GROWTH.
>> WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SUPPORT IT.
WE'RE CREATING, I'M SORRY TO SAY IT, AND I HATE TO SAY IT, BUT WE'RE CREATING SLUMS.
WE'RE CREATING HOUSING WAREHOUSES WITH NO WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GO.
>> THE UPDATED COMMUNITY PLAN DOES CALL FOR NEW LINEAR PARKS ALONG MAJOR STREETS, AND PUBLIC PLAZAS NEXT TO NEW DEVELOPMENTS.
THE PLANNING COMMISSION VOTED UNANIMOUSLY TO RECOMMEND THE PLAN'S APPROVAL.
COMMISSIONER MATTHEW BOOM HOW ARE ACKNOWLEDGED CHANGE CAN BE SCARY, ESPECIALLY FOR LONGTIME RESIDENTS.
>> BUT THE STAFF AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION HAVE A JOB, AND THAT'S TO CONSIDER THE CONCERNS OF CURRENT RESIDENTS BUT TO BALANCE THAT WITH THE NEEDS FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO ARE GOING TO LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD LONG AFTER MANY OF THE OLDER CURRENT RESIDENTS HAVE MOVED ON.
WE NEED TO BE PLANNING FOR JEN THE AND JEN A, NOT FOR BABY BOOMERS OR MY GENERATION.
>> THE COLLEGE AREA COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATE IS SET TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL IN DECEMBER.
ANDREW BOWEN, KPBS NEWS.
>>> WELL, GUESS WHAT?
WE'VE GOT SOME RAIN CONTINUING TO WORK ITS WAY ON THROUGH OUR REGION, AND THAT DOESN'T REALLY LET UP.
IF YOU LOOK AT SINCE AUGUST 1st, WE REALLY HAVE HAD OUR CHANCES OF RAIN, AND IT'S PUT US WELL ABOVE HISTORICAL AVERAGES, AND WE GET ANOTHER WET DAY AS WE HAD THROUGH TOMORROW.
IN FACT, TONIGHT, WE'VE ALREADY SEEN IT AROUND, AND CONTINUES OVERNIGHT TONIGHT.
DRIER WEEKEND AHEAD FOR US.
SO WE DO CATCH A BREAK, ESPECIALLY THROUGH THE MID- DAYTIME ON SATURDAY AND BEYOND INTO SUNDAY.
THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM, I THINK, IS MOSTLY NORTH.
WE'LL BE WATCHING THAT AS WE HEAD INTO TODAY.
A LOT OF ACTION SHOULD HOLD NORTH OF US AS FAR AS THE PRECIPITATION.
LET'S TALK ABOUT PRISCILLA, BECAUSE THIS IS THE ONE THAT'S HELPING TO BRING AT LEAST SOME TROPICAL MOISTURE INTO OUR REGION, AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THIS WILL TRACK ITS WAY NORTHWARD HERE THROUGH THE UPCOMING HOURS AND DAYS, AND THEN ACTUALLY KIND OF DISSOLVE THERE OVERLAND.
SO WE'LL FOLLOW THAT FOR YOU, BUT REALLY, WHAT IT DOES IS IT PUSHES SOME OF ITS MOISTURE INTO THE SOUTHWESTERN U.S.
AND FOR US, WE WON'T GET THE BRUNT OF IT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO BE FARTHER OFF TO OUR EAST AS YOU WORK THROUGH SOME OF THE EASTERN REGIONS OF SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, MOSTLY IN ARIZONA, PARTS OF UTAH WILL GET IN ON THIS MOISTURE.
SO IT'S FAIRLY FAR-REACHING.
HOWEVER, AGAIN, WE'RE KIND OF ON THE WESTERN FRINGES OF WHAT WE WILL FIND.
IT DOES MEAN, THOUGH, THAT AS WE HAD THROUGH THE NIGHT, 65 BELOW.
SOME SHOWERS OUT THERE LIKELY FOR SO MANY OF US HERE ACROSS THE REGION.
AND THAT CONTINUES INTO TOMORROW WITH SOME THUNDERSTORMS THAT CAN BRING SOME VERY HEAVY RAIN.
SO WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT MOST PLACES, AS WE HAD THROUGH THE LATER PART OF TOMORROW AND SATURDAY MORNING, MAYBE PICKING UP A FEW HUNDREDTHS OF AN INCH OF RAIN TO AS MUCH AS A HALF AN INCH OR MORE OF RAIN AND SOME OF THE HEAVY RAINFALL BOUTS THROUGH ESPECIALLY THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS.
IS THIS FUTURE RADAR AND SATELLITE, PRETTY WET OUT THERE AS WE HAD THROUGH TONIGHT.
AND THEN TOMORROW MORNING, YOU CAN SEE THERE IS STILL SOME BENDING OVER AHEAD FOR US, AND THAT'S GOING TO ALLOW FOR MOISTURE TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE AFTERNOON AND INTO THE EARLY EVENING HOURS.
THEN A LOT OF THIS STARTS TO SHOVE ITS WAY FARTHER AND FARTHER TOWARDS THE EAST, SO BY SATURDAY MORNING, THERE COULD STILL BE A SPRINKLE, BUT A LOT OF THE MOISTURE IS GONE.
FOR US, THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS SHOWING YOU DRYER FOR SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.
PLEASANT CONDITIONS OUT THERE.
TEMPERATURES IN THE 70s TOWARDS COAST.
STILL LOOKING AT A PRETTY QUIET SETUP FOR THEIR INLAND.
COMMUNITIES INCLUDING THE WEEKEND THERE, WHERE WE'RE HOLDING ONTO THE 70s.
AS WE WATCH THE MOUNTAIN, THAT SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM LIKELY AS WE HAD THROUGH THE DAY TOMORROW, THEN WE'LL GET IN ON MORE WINDY WEATHER FROM THE NEXT STORM SYSTEM INTO TUESDAY, AND IT'S A SIMILAR SET UP FOR ANOTHER AS, AGAIN, WE WATCH FOR THAT RAIN FOR TOMORROW.
FOR KPBS NEWS, I AND YOU -- >>> THIS WEEKEND, THERE'S A CULTURAL CELEBRATION IN OCEANSIDE.
OAXACA DEAN LISA MORRIS WILL SHOWCASE OAXACAN CUISINE, DANCE, AND ARTISTIC TRADITION.
KPBS VIDEO JOURNALIST CAROLYN CARELLA'S SPOKE TO THE ORGANIZERS.
>> Reporter: >> THE TITLE COMES FROM THE SONG, AND THAT SONG PRAISES THE BEAUTY OF OAXACA IN ITSELF.
SO THAT'S REALLY WHAT THIS CULTURAL FESTIVAL IS ABOUT, IS ABOUT SHOWCASING ALL OF THE BEAUTY THAT OAXACA HAS.
WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT OAXACAN CULTURE IS THAT THE OAXACANS STAYED IN ITSELF HAS A DIFFERENT REGIONS, AND EACH REGION HAS ITS OWN IDENTITY, INCLUDING FOOD, DANCES, EVEN, IN SOME CASES, LANGUAGES.
AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE BEAUTY OF OAXACA IS, THAT YOU CAN GO TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF OAXACA AND HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE.
I'M ONE OF THE COFOUNDERS OF OAXACA.
A LOT OF THE INDIGENOUS PRACTICES ARE STILL ALIVE TO THIS DAY, SO COLONIALISM HASN'T TOUCHED IT AS MUCH.
LISTENING TO THE MUSIC AND DANCING, IT'S THE BEST THING.
IT'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT FOR ME.
IT'S LIKE OUT THERE TO REPRESENT FROM WHERE I AM.
IT'S LIKE, IT'S A, IT'S A NICE FEELING.
LIKE, I'M PROUD TO BE FROM THERE.
-- THAT YOU SEE, IT'S LIKE, FOR ME, THAT IS, LIKE, WHEN I GO THERE, IT'S LIKE, IT'S LIKE, I WANT TO, I'M HOME.
I'M ONE OF THE LEADERS, THE DANCE GROUP -- IT'S A NATIVE GROUP.
IT'S A TRADITION WHERE WE'RE FROM, IN OAXACA.
IT'S CALLED A -- OUR GROUP -- LIKE THE STARTING OF THE FIESTA, THE MAIN EVENT.
ANNOUNCING, LIKE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG PARTY, SO, LIKE, GET READY.
WE USUALLY DANCE WITH, WITH THE -- WE HAVE, LIKE, BIG -- MAYBE OVER SIX FEET TALL.
THE SIZE, THE SIZE OF THE PERSON CARRYING THEM.
SO THEY'RE, LIKE, ABOUT 10 FEET TALL.
WE ALSO HAVE, LIKE -- IT'S A SOUP MADE WITH RAGS.
HIS DANCING ALL OVER THE PLACE.
WE HAVE DORITOS, LIKE, THE LITTLE DORITOS, SO WE GO WITH THOSE ONCE SO THEY CAN GET THE ATTENTION.
THE GIRLS WITH THE BASKETS JUST LIKE THAT, IT'S LIKE, OKAY, WE'RE HERE.
THE PARTY'S ABOUT TO START.
WE USUALLY THROW CANDY.
ONCE WE DO THAT, IT'S LIKE, IT'S AN INVITATION FOR THE PEOPLE TO JOIN US.
>> OUR CULTURE IN ITSELF IS ROOTED IN THE CONCEPT OF, THAT YOU HELP ONE ANOTHER IN DIFFICULT TIMES AND IN TIMES OF FESTIVITIES AND TIMES OF HAPPINESS.
IT MEANS THAT WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER, AND THAT HAS TRACED BACK THOUSANDS OF YEARS, BEFORE EVEN MEXICO WAS MEXICO.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL THING THAT HAS BEEN ABLE TO SURVIVE, AND WE DEFINITELY PUT A STRONG PRESENCE ON PASSING DOWN TRADITIONS FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.
SO YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEE THAT ON OCTOBER 12th.
WE ARE SO CONNECTED TO OUR CULTURE, SO IF ONE PERSON MOVES TO CALIFORNIA, THEN MORE PEOPLE WILL COME.
I BELIEVE THE NUMBER IS 300,000 OAXACANS LIVE IN CALIFORNIA.
THIS IS THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF OAXACANS OUTSIDE OF THE STATE OF OAXACA THAN ANYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD, AND THAT IS MY CALIFORNIA ACTUALLY HAS THE NICKNAME -- SO PEOPLE WHO ARE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE THAT COMMUNICATION, THAT'S WHY IT'S EVEN MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE PRIDE IN YOUR CULTURE NOW, TO BE ABLE TO STAND UP AND TO SPEAK OUT FOR THOSE WHO CAN'T.
TO GIVE A VOICE TO THOSE WHO AREN'T ABLE TO.
AND THAT'S WHY OUR CULTURE IS SO IMPORTANT, BECAUSE WE ARE EITHER IMMIGRANTS, OR, LIKE, OUR FAMILIES HAVE IMMIGRATED TO THIS PLACE.
A LOT OF US CALL THIS PLACE HOME.
OUR EVENT IS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE AT THE JUNIOR AMPHITHEATER.
IT'S AN OPEN INVITATION FOR EVERYONE.
IF THEY CAN JOIN US ON OCTOBER 12th, I THINK IT'S THE FIRST TIME IT'S GOING TO BE HERE IN OCEANSIDE.
SOMETHING LIKE, CULTURAL LIKE THAT FROM OAXACA.
IT'S AN HONOR.
>> OAXACA, TO ME, IS ABOUT COMMUNITY, CULTURE, ART, AND EDUCATION.
BUT WE'RE STILL HERE, WE'RE PRIDEFUL TO BE HERE, AND THAT INDIGENOUS PEOPLE ARE AROUND YOU EVERYWHERE.
>> THAT STORY WAS PRODUCED BY CAROLYN CARELLA'S.
OAXACA DAVE LISA MORRIS WILL TAKE PLACE THIS SUNDAY IN ORDER INSIDE.
THE FREE EVENT RUNS FROM NOON UNTIL 7:00 IN THE EVENING AT THE JUNIOR SEO AMPHITHEATER.
YOU CAN FIND NIGHTS STORIES ON OUR WEBSITE, KPBS.ORG.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US, EVERYONE.
I'M JOHN CARROLL.
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