Hello everyone and welcome.

Thanks for checking us out tonight.

We're having coffee and getting ready to chat it up with tonight's special guest here at Potomac Station Coffee House in Dormont.

We have a great show coming your way.

But first, I'm Valerie, that's David, and this is the Gen X Pittsburgh podcast.

We have a long time fixture i Pittsburgh music and Weinstein.

We're excited to be hanging out tonight with Tim Gaber.

Very exciting.

I know The Buzz Poets and a winemaker.

Holy moly.

Cant ask for more.

I remember in college a girl wearing a Buzz Poets shirt.

I don't even know where she got it from.

I hope they sold Buzz Poets shirts or else I'm misremembering a story But she wore it like, every day.

Really?

I swear to you, yes.

It's fun, happy music.

I was listening to them this week.

I was too.

The self-titled album and I have to tell you it is really it sticks with you.

Yeah, yeah it does.

Yeah.

I love the lyrics.

They're like, they're brilliant.

It reminded me of I'm going to say this and then Tim's going to say, what are you thinking?

Right.

But like early Goo Goo Dolls is what it reminded me of early Goo Goo Dolls before “Superstar Car Wash” and “A Bo Named Goo” and things like that.

Okay.

That's just what I heard.

Thanks for joining u and hanging out with us tonight.

We're so excited to have you Thanks for having me, Valerie.

Appreciate that.

Wait to learn more about your background and what's ahead for you Well thank you.

Yeah.

Of course.

Happy to share.

We always start off by asking our guests.

Where did you grow up?

How was your upbringing?

You know.

Did you hang out on the yacht or did you go to the Poconos?

What was your growing up like?

My growing up was wonderful.

I grew up in Jefferson Hills right here in the South Hills.

Yeah.

Thats where my husband's from.

Yeah.

So grew up kind of next to a farm, so played in the woods a lot and did all the thing that we used to do as kids that, you know, we weren't on our phone.

We were out playing.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

It was great.

So when did you get into music?

Was that in high school?

Was that younger?

Yeah, I started playing music a little bit in high school.

I started playing guitar.

Okay.

And just fooled around with it a little bit and then when I went up to IUP to college, I was playing and playing a little bit up there and joined a fraternity, Sigma Chi fraternity.

And then a friend of mine at the, at the college had a bass and he, I said, can I borrow that and check it out?

And never played one of these.

I played the bass and I was like, oh, I'm playing the wrong instrument.

Yeah.

So I said, you're not getting it back.

You know, I bought it from him.

And from that point forward, that's what I played.

Got into a band immediately.

Yeah, yeah.

And so what year was that?

When were you in college?

I was in college from 85 or 84, but this was started in 86.

The band started in 86 and it was my first band, and that was up at IUP.

And I just had a reunion with that band for the first time in 38 years.

So exciting.

Yeah, we hadn't even seen each other in 38 years.

And we did a reunion this summer and it was amazing.

Yeah.

Who was it?

What was the name of?

The band was DA Rebmi, and w started right across the street from The Clarks at the same exact time.

They weren't even The Clerks at the time, they were called The Administration.

But we were all friend and played music together.

And.

Yeah, and we will get into that, because you really do have a storied past.

I think I'm talking about yo specifically with the Pittsburgh music scene and just I mean, yo really ameshed in the culture.

Yeah, yeah, I've been really fortunate to be involved so much for so long.

Yeah, yeah.

And you played with a friend of ours with Brownie Mary with Kelsey Friday.

Oh, yes.

Yeah.

Yeah, that was great.

Yeah.

That was.

Yeah That was in the early mid 90s.

I played with Brownie Mary for a couple of years, toured with them and that was that was great.

And I was just mentioning to you earlier that I just, I sit in with them when they play at my venue, the original Pittsburgh winery, and then I subbed and played a whole gig with them on the 4th of July.

And that was a lot of fun.

I bet that was.

I bet that was.

So what were some of your influences, specifically you?

I don't mean the bands, bu jeez, they all across the map.

I mean, I did listen to.

Well, I listened to a lot of the, like the folksy stuff, everything from that to jazz and I, a lot of R&B, soul, funk kind of stuff, especially when I started playing bass.

But that's kind of what I grew up on.

I had older sister that listened to a lot of R&B.

Yeah.

And so how do you feel like you fit into the Pittsburgh music scene, which, you know, has always been sort of eithe blue collar or with Rusted Root, really hippie ish or, you know, I mean, that's a littl different than you hear some of the other people talk about.

Yeah.

Well, I don't know.

I think I've been lucky to play with a lot of different bands that do different types of things.

And when I, when I first heard the Buzz Poets, which was the band that was, you know, the biggest band I was in, I guess, their stuff just blew me away.

Like I'd never heard anything like it before.

So when I first heard that I was, I was, so I've booked and Iv bartended a lot and booked a lot of venues, and that's usually where I found myself.

I would be, you know, behin the bar, plus booking the bands.

And I was doing that at a place called CJ's Clubhouse up in Indianola.

And that' when I first met the Buzz Poets.

They handed me a four track CD, a four song CD.

Yeah, and I took it home and listened to it and I was like, wow.

I was blown away.

So I went back to a Phil McDowell and I said, hey, I want to work with you guys.

You guys need a manager.

And he said, yeah.

So we I connected with the and started managing the band, and I did that for a while until, until, until they needed a bass player at one point.

And so I stepped in and filled that slot.

And then I said I did all the jobs booking, managing and playing.

It was a lot of fun.

Yeah.

You have a loyal fan base.

Tell us about your fans.

They're great.

Love them.

You know they they really turn out.

And I was really Ive really bee amazed that they came out still to this day that they, they you know, like last time we played Jergels was a packed house, you know, and when we play at the winery in the cellar, same thing.

So it's been, yeah, yeah, it' been a blessing for us really.

When you were at IUP, did you have a background in did you study business?

Yeah.

So yeah, I got a degree in economics.

Oh, wow.

Yeah, I was a pre-med major until I joined a fraternity and a band.

And I said well, this isn't going to work.

Did you ever imagine that people would still be turning out for yo like this, that decades later?

I mean, this is this is like you've been in the band for ever, been in a band.

I've always been in a band ever since I started.

Yeah, yeah, well I had imagined a lot of things, you know?

But, you know, I mean, the fact that they're still coming out is amazing.

Yes.

Yeah, yeah.

And so let's talk a little bit about when you were coming up in the Buzz Poets.

I mean, you were sort of one of those bands that seemed to play a lot all over the the Southside.

I think you did 200 shows a year, right?

We were, yeah, we average 200 shows a year for eight years straight touring and locally, but it was mostly regional.

But we did tour a lot.

We did the Ernie Ball Battle of the Bands, and then we wound u doing the Warped Tour that year.

Yeah, you guys opened for a lot of big bands.

We did a lot of that, yes, which was great.

And like people like Ryan Drusky and you know the DiCesare-Engler used to help put us on a lot of those shows, which really helped us develop and grow.

But no, no record label, right?

We never got signed.

No.

So we were at the table and when 9/11 happened.

Oh, wow.

We were just we were at close and then everyone said, yeah, we're not doing anything right now.

And so that's how it went down.

So before the show started we were talking about your love of wine.

How did that start?

I fell in love with wine.

I didn't start I wasn't a wine drinker until, so we were doing a photo shoot for one of the one of the Buzz Poets records.

And after the photo shoot, we were invited to hang out because there was grapes on the way, and a few peopl were coming to help make wine.

So we were like, yeah, that sounds fun.

So the, you know, we did that.

And I was just I was amazed at the whole process an like the scientific side of it and the art of it and then just the wine itself.

And so I made a barrel of wine that year and, and I was hooked.

The wine came out good and I was totally hooked.

And from that point forward, for about six years, a group of about six guys got together and made wine And we kept making more and more until eventually we got a license.

And then I did that for a few years, and then I wanted to start a music venue.

So I broke off and started the Pittsburgh winery.

With your fiancé?

Is that what I read?

Yeah, that was my.

Yeah, my former fiancé.

How do you make that jum from music to to owning a venue?

How do you decide that that's going to be the thing you want to do?

It was kind of a it was a natural progression from bartending and booking venues to just starting a venue.

Yeah, it was pretty much the same.

The same thing, only more work.

Yeah, yeah, a lot more work.

Yes.

Yeah.

I mean, you guess you're right.

You do have to, you spend a lot of time booking the bands that were there.

It really became one of Pittsburgh's premier, outlets for bands, right?

I mean, everybody seems to pla there at some point or another.

Yeah.

You know, and our roots ar pretty deep as far as, you know, what we've had.

We have a relationships with all these, you know we call them legacy bands now.

Yeah.

Isnt that sad?

We all we all are.

Were all legacy something.

Yes.

But those bands that used to play at Nick's Fat City, which was our home, you know, kind of coming when we all came up.

A lot of those bands have been playing our room, you know, like, like Brownie Mary, Chelsea, and New Invisible Joy and Gathering Field and.

Yeah, yeah.

And I'm curious how you fee you guys fit in with that scene, like you were coming up at the same time as sort of Nixon Clocks, right?

And a lot of those.

But you were all so different.

We were.

Yeah.

How did Pittsburgh cultivate and then cultivate a scene like that and then manage to keep it thriving for so long?

Yeah, I don't know.

I think that variety was the coolest part of it, you know, because you can go see something different every night.

It wasn't all cookie cutter.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And so is it.

The same with with the club?

I mean, when you're making wine, are you thinking about, you know, is it you'r thinking about what you can do with one particular grape or on particular kind of of of wine, or are you just thinking, you know, I want to try all kinds of I mean, what's it like?

Well, it's very I don't know, it's kind of similar to, to, you know, making music and songwriting, you know, I mean, every wine that we make is different.

What we would do was myself and my, my business partner Anthony Jardine would.

So we would source grapes from places where we really enjoyed the wine in the first place.

So you start with the wine an say, okay, this wine is great.

Let me go to the winemaker and see if they'll sell us some grapes.

And most people don't realize that most of them will.

So you could buy the grapes an then I would pick their brains.

They're like, well, how'd you make it so good?

How did you make this happen?

And that happened, and they're very forthcoming.

The wine industry is really, really wonderful like that, you know, and they don' keep it very close to the vest.

Everyone wants everyone else to make good wine.

That's great.

You know, kind of like the music scene in Pittsburgh, right?

What what part of your personality ties wine making and making music together?

It's all the it's all experiential.

You know, it all elevates, you know?

So.

And I wanted to have a club because I wanted a place where people could go and forget about their troubles and just be elevated and lost in the whole you know, ambiance, the aromas, the beauty of the venue the wonderfulness of the music, the aromas of the wine, all that.

Yeah.

Love it, love it.

Were you still playing in the Buzz Poets when you opened up the.

And by that, I mean, were you guys playing out regularl when you started the club?

No.

So we kind of quit ful time was that around 06, 05, 06?

Didn't open the venue to 11.

Okay.

So yeah, there was a time in between there where I was buying, I was buying and fixing houses and rent.

I build a rental portfolio, and then I converted that portfolio into grapes, into wine.

Wow.

Wow.

Oh my goodness.

So I know that there's I can't remember the name o the movie, but there's a movie about wine winemaking in California, right?

Sideways.

Yeah.

Sideways.

Sideways.

You know, that sort of kicked off people's interest or reinvigorate people's interest in winemaking.

But it seems like beer has always been more, more popular.

But there are there is a whole culture, right, of winemaker and people that are doing this.

Yes.

Yeah, I kno the beer culture in Pittsburgh.

The wine culture is really big in Pittsburgh.

There's a huge scene.

Yeah.

It's huge.

It's grown.

Yeah.

For sure.

You know, it's it's catching up to the the beer scene.

But yes it is.

It is Yeah I know that there was the there's been a couple of stores.

There was one Monroeville.

There was one in Green Tree you could buy supplies at.

Where did you get all of your stuff and how do you scale that up?

I would get them through, you know, my, my wine guy was, is Ronnie Casertano and he was with Consumers Produce and you know, he's still involved in the wine industry and he's really champione us, you know, from since 2000.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

And so from the time you were in a band to now Pittsburgh has changed, right?

When you were started playing, Pittsburgh still had a lot of that sort of blue collar, you know, scene about it.

And now it's known more for, you know, being a foodie kind of place right?

And and that sort of probably ties righ in with what you've been doing all this time.

How have you seen it shift over your career?

Besides cassettes to streaming.

Right.

I kno that's kind of where it started.

And wow, I mean, yeah, the food scenes evolved certainly the music scene evolved from more of that blue collar, you know, rock n roll, dirty rock n rol kind of stuff to more variety.

So now there's there's great artists in every genre.

Yeah.

And that's something we like, you know, we like to do at the venu is to present all of that stuff because it's all so good in its own right.

Well, what about i terms of the clubs themselves, when you mentioned Nicks Fat City, you I know you've played many, many of the clubs throughout here, right?

But a lot of them are gone now.

So what were some of your favorites and what do you think about the scene, how it's developed you kno pre and then post Covid right.

So a lot of great venues over the years starting with for me starting with Graffiti.

That was that was a big one for for me, I played there several times, did a Graffiti rock challenge and you know, had had great times with that place.

And of course, that went under in 2000, I think is when they closed and then shortly, you know, then Nicks Fat City pops up and they had such a great run and then, you know, then they closed, you know, Rosebud, Metropol, all those places, you know, they all come and go, Laga, and that's, that's the, you know the lifespan of a music venue.

It just kind of, you know, grows and then goes away.

Why is that?

I understand now.

Because well, it's a, it's a it's a, it's a difficult thing.

You know, it's a labor of love to operate a music venue.

And anyone who's done I will tell you the same thing is tha you don't do it to to get rich.

You do it for the passion and love of the music and supporting the artists And that's what it's all about.

And most people that I know that do it or have done it, have done it until they just they couldn't do it anymore.

There was nothing left to give.

Yeah.

And so I'm curious, is thi the kind of thing that ends up costing the venue owners money in the end?

Yeah.

Nobody's walking away with a pile of money.

Is that right?

Nobody's walking away with anything you put it all into until, until there's nothing left to give.

Yeah.

And that's that's just how it goes.

And, you know, that's a choice, right?

And, you know, a choice that, you know, others and myself were willing to make.

And and you and you were doing it for 15 years?

Was it 15 years?

Yeah.

Yeah.

The original Pittsburgh Winery was, Yeah.

It was started 15 years ago.

Yeah.

And unfortunately we haven't mentioned it.

But you announced yesterda a couple days, a couple days ago that the the venue is closing.

Yeah.

And originally I was confused because it said, you know, we want to thank the bands or something like that.

And I thought oh they're, they're just going to concentrate on, on the food side.

And then I dug a little deeper and find out found out its going away.

That has to be very painful.

Sure.

Yeah.

It's heartbreaking, you know, and it's, you know, not something that happened overnight.

You know, you could see that, you know, train coming for a while.

Yeah.

Just based on the numbers, you know, and like I said, every other music venue owner that I've, you know, talked with, they're all in the same boat.

Yeah.

You know, independent music venues are going down around the country at a rapid pace.

And it's and it's it's bad.

It's bad for the industry.

It's bad for the, you know, the artists that are just coming up that need a place to perform, you know, and see if they got what it takes.

Right.

Yeah.

I, I do think yeah, I' just going to pick a genre here like hair metal.

Right.

That the worst of those bands was still playing 340 nights out of the year.

Right.

So they really got good at creating a set and, and, you know, honing their chops and figuring out songwriting.

And now everythin seems to be on YouTube, right?

So that makes it harder, I think, on both ends.

Right.

Like a clu like yours really did a service for the bands in so many different ways, and the audience.

Sure.

Well, there's nothing like having a show to prepare for to get your get your chops up, you know, to get good, to get tight, you know, because you don' want to go out there and suck.

So do you believe that Pittsburgh has a really bi supportive system between bands?

Yes.

Yeah.

The scene is, I think, just as tight knit now as it was back in the Nicks Fat City days, when we were all going out and supporting each other.

I've seen that in The Cellar a lot, where people come support each other and it's just it's wonderful.

Do other local, local bands sit in with you?

I mean, you sit in with Kelsey sometimes.

Who sits in with you guys?

So like I do, I do a thing with Anthony Vincent Jardine.

So he he does his own.

He's my business partner.

He does his own solo stuff Or that we do that we his music.

And then we also do a thing called Clunkers and Friends.

And that's where we get, yo know, we get horns up with us, we get 3 or 4 or 5 different singers to come up.

We learn their songs or cover songs that they want to do, and it's like a showcase and, you know, it's, you know, like last time we had everyone from John Pergal doing Allman Brothers to Big Jus you know, doing hip hop stuff.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, that' got to be fun as a bass player.

Yeah.

Oh it's a it's a blast.

Yeah.

Especially to learn all the, all the different stuff and yeah to go from one thing to another.

Right.

And it's a great show for the audience too because they get to, you know, it's not just one thing.

Yeah.

How many employees do you have at the winery?

They come and go like any any other thing, but, you know, probably 20 at a time, but, yo know, you know, 4 or 5 a shift.

Yeah.

And whats that feel like I don't want to get too heavy, but I'm sure there's a sens of responsibility that you feel for your employees?

Absolutely.

Fortunately, they pretty much all have other jobs.

So, you know, this was a part time side hustle for them, which still, you know, it still hurts because people rely on that little, you know, that extra income.

Yeah.

But what I when I found was that the, the sense of family that we had at the venue was a lot deeper than I thought it was.

I'm sure.

Yeah.

It was.

It's been really emotional for us.

I'm sure.

And this has to, this ha to feel like part of Pittsburgh, to your employees, to the people who come there week after week to support whatever shows.

I mean, this is a part of the Pittsburgh cultural scene, right?

And I think that the scene collectively feels it whenever we lose one of these venues.

That means so much to people.

Yeah, yeah.

And I knew it meant a lot to people, but I didn't realize how much it meant, you know, the past several show since we made the announcement have been super emotional.

You know, we've all been crying our eyes out during shows and, you know, like the gu that was just in here earlier, Jeff Taylor was one of the on one of the songwriters on Sunday.

And he, you know, he made the whole room break down.

It was just, you know.

Wow.

It happens.

Yeah.

You know, but yeah, you know, we're getting through it.

Yeah.

You know, we're he characterized it as like an Irish wake because we're doing this for about a month.

Yeah.

You know, before we're said and done.

Right?

Right.

Hi, guys.

It's Valerie and David with the Gen X Pittsburgh Podcast with your Gen X Culture Drop for the week of August 4th through the 11th.

David, what do we have happening this week for our fellow Gen Xers?

On August 4th at the Lindsay Theater and Cultural District in Sewickley.

The summer series 9 on 90s continues playing the movie boys in the hood.

It's the 35th anniversary of that movie, which is un-freaking-believable.

I know, I can't believe it's been that long.

And on Thursday, August 6th, New Invisible Joy will be performing at the Poetry Lounge.

Now, John Schisler was on ou podcast a couple of months ago.

Love him.

Love his band.

If you're a fan, be sure to check it out.

And on Friday, August 7th at Vinoski Winery in Rostraver, Drusky Entertainment presents the super 70s rock show that will take us back to our childhood.

Right.

And then on Saturday, August 8th, there's also Rock, Reggae, and Relief 2026 with UB40 and G. Love and Special Sauce.

How cool is that going to be?

The show is crafted by 84 Lumber, and that's happening in Market Square at 11:30.

It's a comedy night with former guest Jim Krenn.

He's going to be at Trails t Ales 2, and that night's busy.

The Buzz Poet are also going to be performing.

They're going to be at Jergels.

I know, I know.

So you could go see some comedy and then some rock.

That's right.

And then on Sunday, August 9th, its the Southside Market at 2120 Jane Street.

And it goes from 10 to 2, now that's the Vellum Brewing.

And they're going to hav everything from juice bars, hot sauce, to peace, love and daizies.

What's happening on Monday?

On Monday, August 10th through the 16th is Pittsburgh Restaurant week.

Oh my gosh, I love that.

It's so much fun.

Pittsburg has a lot of great restaurants and there's going to be dozens of restaurants participating.

I think like more than 30.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Right.

So there's a lot to sample.

Going to be good.

All around the region.

Yeah.

On Tuesday, August 11th, The Priory Hotel on the Northside starting at 6 p.m., they're going to have their summer concert series.

They're going to have good food and tasty libations.

I love the Northside.

I love that neighborhood.

I used to live on that street, actually.

And don't forget, you can join us here at Potomac Station Coffee House in Dormont for a live taping of our podcast.

Our guest next week is Mike Hough, he is the co-owner of the Church Arcade.

I'm so excited about that.

I know, I know, I know.

That is my wife's former church in Duquesne.

Yep, it's an arcade.

Now it has, like, every classic arcade game, pinball game.

It's a fascinating place if yo are this much of a kid at heart.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, that wraps u our culture drop for this week.

Have a great week, Pittsburgh.

And may your parking chair be exactly where you left in.

Okay, s what's on the horizon for you?

What's coming up next for you?

Well, near term I don't have any plans at all.

Long term, I plan on doing nothing fo as long as I can possibly do it.

Yeah.

After this is all said and done.

But for the next several weeks, we have a lot of shows at the venu that including The Buzz Poets.

We're going to be playing there on August 7th in the in the Cellar.

And then we have a Big Jus and Lyndse Smith, theyre there, August 1st Reuben's Painted Mandolin, does Jerry Garcia stuff, and they're having a whole bunch of people join them.

So it's going to be a big party with them on August 8th.

And then we're doing our grand finale on August 15th.

And that's going to be basically all of our friends are going to come play music.

I don't, I don't know who's going to be on it, but I'm sure it's going to be wonderful.

Any vacations planned?

Not not yet, but soon.

Yes.

Yeah.

And it's that date hard?

I know that, like when The Beehive announced it was going to close, it was September, October, and then it became November, December, and then it became January as more and more people, you know, talked abou how much they were coming back.

And.

Yeah, I mean, it's hard.

I think it's hard.

Yeah.

It's August 15th.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

So it's a hard day.

Yeah.

It's gonna be missed, thats for sure.

And so The Buzz Poets ar you have three shows coming up right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We're playing our.

Yeah the Cellar on August 7th.

We're playing at Jergels on August 8th with a band from, blast from the past, Distorted Penguins.

Theyre going to be playing with us from.

Yeah, we used to play with them back in the day.

Oh, and then on August 7th, Late Comer playing with us in the cellar.

And Rich Anthony's one of the one of the guys that works with us at the venue.

So that's going to be and Anthony Vincent Jardine is going to get up and do songs with us too.

So it's going to be kind of like that's what I described earlier, where it's just everyone's going to do stuff very nice.

Oh yeah.

And then we're playing at Big Rail Brewing up in Grove City on the on Sunday, the 9th.

Okay.

Cool.

And you're you're a guy that' putting all this together right?

You're still managing the band?

Yeah I guess more or less.

Yeah yeah I do I do the bookings and management and booking flights for the guys that are out of town.

Right.

I mean, and all of that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean, that's still a lot of work.

So you're saying, well, I'm, you know, nothing, right?

But it's it sounds like if you play a couple of times a year, you're still going to have a little bit of work that you're doing in between.

Sure, sure.

And then promoting and.

Yeah.

Doing podcasts.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah, yeah.

And so if people, you know, the music industry has changed so much, right?

Like you can't walk into a National Record Mart anymore and pick up a copy of The Buzz Poets newest CD?

Right.

How?

Are people streaming What happened?

They are streaming.

Yeah.

And, you know, it's it's challenging because some of the streaming services, you know, all of a sudden your songs aren't there.

And then you have to figure ou how to get them back up there.

Right.

And you know, that kind of happened to us.

So yeah, we're actually we're recreate a record that we recorded live at Graffiti and it was called Alcohol Abuse Live.

Right.

So we're recreate, we're redoing that record from front to back.

And it's not even up It's you can't find it anywhere.

So you're doing live recordings of it.

Is that right?

This was a live recording.

So yeah.

You're not redoing.

Yeah.

Like are you're performing?

Were performing the record just from front to back.

Just because it'll be a lot of fun.

Because it was like from 99.

Wow.

That'll be so much fun.

Yeah, well, we're going to have some fun.

We have a segment called the Rapid Fire Rewind.

It's very simple.

We'r just going to ask you a question and you have to pick which one you like better.

Which on I like better.

Yeah.

You ready?

I'm ready.

Iron City or Rolling Rock?

Rolling rock.

What's your favorite band?

Oh gosh.

That's a that's a tough one.

I can never answer that one.

It depends on what genre.

Well so alternative.

Well how about two?

Alternative and local?

Yeah I don't, I don't think I can name.

I don't think I should name a local one.

Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

Youd get a lot of people mad at you, right?

Buzz Poets.

Yeah, I know that was what I wa going to say, but I didnt wanna Okay.

Three Rivers or Heinz Field?

Heinz.

Okay.

What's your, might be another one, right, but what's your favorite alternative or Gen X movie?

Oh you know what's funny is I don't watch I don't I'm so bad with movies too.

Yeah yeah yeah.

No Rocky, Striking Distance?

Yeah, I mean those are good ones.

Yeah.

Breakfast Club?

Yeah, Breakfast Club, yeah, that's a good one.

Turner's or Schneider's?

Wow.

Turner's.

Okay.

Do you have a favorite Saturday morning cartoon?

I'm betting you don't.

You seem to be a guy that was always on the move, right?

Yeah.

I didn' watch a lot of cartoons either.

Yeah?

Yeah.

I'm sorry.

It's okay.

Donzis and Chaunceys or Metropol and Rosebud?

Metropol and Rosebud.

Of course.

Yeah.

Yeah.

What was your first concert?

I went to see The Who at The Civic Arena.

Wow.

Yeah.

That's amazing.

So in the 70s.

Yeah.

Yeah, man, that was the original band, right?

All four of them.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Wow.

That's some first concert.

Yeah.

How do you live up to that?

How did The Buzz Poets live up to that?

I don't think we do.

Southside Beehive or Oakland Bee Southside.

Okay.

I'm quite confident you're not going to have an answer for this.

Okay.

Atari or Nintendo?

I didn't play either.

Did you play PlayStation or Xbox No no no no no.

Never.

Sitting backstage in the green room?

No.

Never.

Never played those videogames at all.

Yeah.

It's wild.

Yeah.

Merlot or Cabernet?

Oh, depends on the, it depends on the one, but Cabernet for, I love them both.

Okay.

Okay.

If you're picking a wine of the shelf, what do you grabbing?

Caymus or anything Orin Swift.

Okay.

David has no idea what youre talking about.

Youre talking beyond me at this Big California reds are my jam.

Yeah.

So you're more domestic than you are.

Yeah, yeah.

Although I do love I do love South American wines, and.

Oh, I love the all.

Italian, French, you know?

But, yeah, California wines are special.

Yeah.

And what about.

So we had Dave DeSimone, do you know Dave?

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we had Dav DeSimone on a little while ago.

And he's always said I used to produce his radio show, and he's always said that you can find a good bottle of wine for, you know, about 15 bucks.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And do you have a favorite budget line?

Trying to think of what I haven't.

I actually haven't bought wine in quite a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, you make it, I guess.

Yeah.

I have a big seller.

Okay.

On that note you don't have to answer that.

Okay.

But thank you so much for joining us.

It's so much fun, and we wish you the best of luck.

Oh.

Thank you.

Yeah.

Thank you so much for us here tonight on the Gen X Pittsburgh Podcast.

We'll see you guys next week.

The Gen X Pittsburgh Podcast are David Rullo and Valerie Christofel.

Executive producer, David Rullo.

Video producer and graphic designer, Kim Rullo.

Producer, Valerie Christofel.

Video production and editor Brent Isaac.

Music by NeoStem.