- He mentioned it recently.

What do you think might happen to Cuba?

- I mean, if you'd asked me this a week ago he was absolutely ready to put whatever pressure necessary to overthrow the government of Cuba, which I have no positive feelings about, let me say.

This Iran thing is going so badly that I do wonder if there is a little bit of second thoughts on this.

I think they're obviously gonna continue to put pressure on.

I think that they would like for the Cuban regime to collapse under its own weight.

And I think that they probably wanna do it.

But I think it's a little bit Iran contingent right now.

- Do you think the leaks or what seem to be leaks that say Trump is now having remorse about making the decision to go into Iran, do you buy that?

Do you think that there's any recognition internally that they think actually on the other, maybe we shouldn't have done this?

- He doesn't really seem like a remorse person.

- Not a remorse guy.

- Trump is like, to understand the psyche of Trump, he sees himself as a survivor and lives day to day.

I mean, there have been so many times that he's been down and he never want to hand it to Trump.

I mean, he's been bankrupt how many times and how many times the tabloids went after him and he was broke and then he gets this lucky break with the TV show and then he didn't think he was gonna win in '16.

And then he thought he was gonna be in jail in 2021.

And like, here he is.

And so I think that maybe there are moments where he's like I wish I didn't do this, but that's not how his like lizard brain works.

His lizard brain is how do I survive this?

And he's like a day by day type person.

- Hi, thank you for being here.

One question you did not address was the Supreme Court.

What are your thoughts about that?

- The Supreme Court, that is like on this list of things that is under the bucket of norms, right?

And I think that had you come to me three years ago before he was reelected, my opinion would've been, I think Mitch McConnell stole a Supreme Court seat and I think that we should just be very blunt about that.

And yet, I'm not sure what the value is of trying to deal with expansion or all these kind of other plans that get thrown around in liberal circles.

Now, I think that whoever the next president is, their most important thing that they're gonna have to do, and this is gonna be challenging, as we said, about people that wanna push them to work on the economy and healthcare and stuff, is like some broad reform package that could include Supreme Court, could include D.C., Puerto Rico statehood, could include, you know, other corruption rules.

And I do think that has to be on the table for the next Democratic president.

I think it's gonna be very challenging though.

In order to do that, a lot of these conversations like skip the first step, which is, how do you do that?

Well, do you have to get 60 senators?

Are you going to end the filibuster to expand the Supreme Court?

Maybe, but like what are the consequences of that?

Like there are a lot of hard choices there.

- There's a be careful what you wish aspect of the filibuster, right?

- Yeah, a lot of hard choices there.

And I think that they'll end up getting rid of the filibuster.

- But the guardrail of that used to be the court, I think that's.

- I'm like less, I'm sorry, my apologies.

I thought your question about was like those questions about reforming the court.

The current court, I'm a little bit less negative than like your average liberal pundit about this because this court has overturned him more times than any court has overturned any president since FDR.

Now, he's been more lawless than any president since before FDR, so you would expect that they would do that.

But I think when push comes to shove, and we saw this recently, you know, on the, 6-3 ruling, like I don't think that Roberts and Coney Barrett want him to be a dictator, you know, and I do think that if push comes to shove, they would stop the worst of the worst.

They're gonna allow a lot of nonsense, but I do think that they're a slight check still.

- [Participant] Hi, thanks for being here.

I was wondering what your opinion would be about what it's gonna take to turn the tide and what we can do as individuals to help shift the story that's unfolding now.

- Bottom up as opposed to top down.

You mean like individuals doing the work.

- Yeah.

Yeah.

Because, yeah, I think there's a lot of concerned people and we don't wanna just sit on our hands.

- Sit on your hands.

Well, look, as I said, I think that Minneapolis was an absolutely major inflection point.

And I think you can see the power of regular people in that because the behavior of the government changed, the behavior of Democratic politicians changed, the behavior of CEOs started to change.

They started to see that the administration can be pushed back on.

So I do think like there's a No Kings rally coming up.

I do think that that is really important.

I think that working at a local level and you know, volunteering, local candidates.

I was talking to the guy that does the State House stuff here in Texas and like they think they can win between 5 and 15 seats.

That's not as sexy as the Senate race, but look at those races.

You know, Tarrant County, he was talking about Rio Grande Valley.

How can you help those local candidates with either time or money, I think would be a good use of people's time.

And the one thing I do like to preach in people's individual lives is like, it's gonna be really hard to get to deal with people that got us here, but like the only way for us to fix this is to win, is to convince and compel people that got sucked up into this, that voted for him, that were fooled, that were tricked.

And so I do think in everybody's personal life, like we're all gonna have to buck up and try to, you know, explain, and try to, you know, give people an off ramp if they see the error of their ways.

Those would be the three things that would come to mind.

- Good.

Anybody else?

Ma'am.

Thank you.

How are you?

- I'm well, thanks.

My 30-something daughter calls the No Kings rallies, pep rallies, not protests.

I find them cathartic, but at the last one, one of the speakers said, "How many people know what they're gonna go out and do tomorrow?"

And my husband and I looked at each other and said, "We have no idea."

Do they have any value besides making us feel good for a little while?

- Nothing wrong feeling good for a little while, I guess I'd say.

I hear you.

Look, I understand the sense of like, oh, this isn't cool, right?

Or, you know, there's something, it's not one battle after another to go to the No Kings rallies, right?

But it matters.

Like seeing people out there in the streets opposing this matters.

There is a strength in numbers element to this.

There have been a lot of, you know, just look at the cowardice we've seen from the law schools and the colleges and the corporate leaders - [Host] Law firms.

- Yeah, what did I say?

Law schools, law firms.

Those folks respond to a feeling of, oh, if they think that they're gonna get boycott and punished for going along with the regime, they might change their behavior.

And so in that sense, you know, there's a ripple effect.

And so I think that showing up to protests do matter, doing boycotts do matter in this moment.

As I just said, I think that helping local candidates, particularly ones in kind of red or swing areas or districts really, really does matter.

And I don't know, I reject the, I think that there is a sense amongst some on the left that it's like, it is over.

It is over.

We're not gonna have free elections anymore, you know what we need now is - - Do you worry about that?

- I don't.

I don't.

We're gonna beat them this time.

They're going to be elections.

- And you think they're going to be elections and they'll be free.

I'm not saying that I think they're not going to be, but I'm asking.

- There are going to be elections in November and they're going to be free.

And there is a sense of like, oh, I think that some of the left, it makes them feel more wise or learned or whatever to catastrophize and to talk about how things can't get better.

And I just don't believe that.

I think that there are a lot of things that are now permanently harmed from this election, as I just said, that things can get better that it is going to be too big to steal.

They tried to rig the midterms of the redistricting already.

They tried.

It backfired because Gavin Newsom and Abigail Spanberger and others stood up across the country.

And, you know, people are like, "Oh, Steve Bannon, they're going to have ICE outside of voting booths."

I'm like, "Put ICE outside of voting booths."

That's great, actually, because you know what's going to happen?

A lot of people like your daughter probably and some of her friends who feel like this is not worth turning out, they'll get pissed.

And they're like, "Yeah, wait, I'm going to vote.

They're not going to be able to keep me from voting."

A lot of times, not always, it worked in Jim Crow, it's worked in certain times, but a lot of times voter suppression efforts actually backfire because people get mad and they decide that they want to actually turn out.

So I do think it's worthwhile and I don't think you should get down about doing it and feel good.

There's nothing wrong feeling good for a day.

(audience applauding) - On that rare upbeat note.

- Yeah.

- We're going to let Tim Miller go to the airport, give him a big hand.

Thank you all very much for coming.

Tim, you did great.

- Thank y'all so much.