>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, RECENT STORIES, THE PASS OF A STATE BUDGET, THE ENDING OF TITLE 42.

AND CONTROVERSY IN SEDONA AND A CHAMBER AND ENDING AND THAT'S NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> Announcer: THIS HOURS OF LOCAL NEWS BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF PBS, MEMBERS OF YOUR PBS STATION.

THANK YOU.

>> Ted: WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

STATE LAWMAKERS CAN SEE THE END OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION IN SIGHT, PERHAPS, ALTHOUGH THEY HAVE TAKEN TIME OFF UNTIL JUNE 12th.

BUT LAST WEEK'S PASSAGE OF A STATE BUDGET, WHICH WAS SIGNED BY THE GOVERNOR HAS BEEN MOVING THINGS ALONG.

THE COUNTY NEEDSAPPROVAL AND REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ARE AGAINST ANY EXTENSION OF THE TAX IF IT INCLUDES REVENUE GOING TO LIGHT RAIL EXPANSION.

>>> NO EVIDENCE OF ANY SURGE OF MIGRANTS AND ASSYLUM SEEKERS AT THE BORDER FOLLOWING THE END OF TITLE 42 AND DAILY CROSSINGS ARE IN THE DAYS OF THE END OF THE RESTRICTIVE BORDER POLICY.

>> WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS PEOPLE REALLY MAKING USE OF LAWFUL PATHWAYS FOR LOWER PROCESSES, FAMILY REUNIFICATIONS AND WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THIS SHIFT OF PEOPLE UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS TO THEIR ADVANTAGE AND LIFESAVING TO USE A LAWFUL PATHWAY RATHER THAN PUTTING THEMSELVES IN HANDS OF UNSCREW OF PEOPLE.

>> Ted: PEOPLE WARN IT'S EARLY AND USING MIGRATION HAVE NOT CHANGED.

>>> AMERICAN HOUSEHOLD DEBT SURPASSED $17 TRILLION AND THAT'S A NEW HIGH AND THE BANK OF NEW YORK REPORTS AMERICANS ARE INCREASING THEIR DEBT ACROSS NEARLY ALL CATEGORIES WITH THE LARGEST BALANCES FOR MORTGAGES, AUTO LOANS AND HOME EQUITY LINES OF CREDIT AND THEY CREDIT THIS TO INFLATION AND SPENDING INCREASES.

THEN AGAIN, CREDIT CARD BALANCES REMAIN FLAT.

>>> GAS PRICES ARE HIGH AND A LOT LOWER THAN THEY WERE A YEAR AGO.

TRIPLE A REPORTS A GALLON OF REGULAR IS $3.54 AND NEARLY $5 A GALLON LAST YEAR.

ARIZONA'S PRICES ARE AT OR NEAR THE NATIONAL AVERAGE.

THE PHOENIX AREA IS SEEING 30 CENTS TO 50 CENTS CENTS HIGHER ON GAS BUDDY.

>>> THE IMMIGRATION POLICY EXPIRED LAST WEEK AND LAST WEEK, THE DEMOCRATIC BUDDY WORKED OUT SOMETHING AND DONALD TRUMP FOUND LIABLE.

WE WELCOME PRESIDENT OF HIGH GROUND AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: LET'S START WITH THE BUDGET AND THE GOVERNOR DIDN'T GET WHAT SHE WANTED AND CAVED AND WASN'T A GOOD SIGN AND YET, YOU GOT YOURSELF A BUDGET AND HOUSING, AND OTHER THINGS.

>> SHE GOT A LOT OF HER PRIORITIES DONE.

IT'S REALLY A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, HOW THE SAUSAGE GOT MADE HERE.

SHE MADE A CHOICE NOT TO INCLUDE SOME OF HER MINORITY COLLEAGUES IN THE DISCUSSION AND SAT POORLY AND LESS LEVERAGE AT THE TABLE FOR HER.

IT WAS A THREE-WAY NEGOTIATION BETWEEN THE PRESIDENT, THE SPEAKER, MOSTLY THE SPEAKER, AND HER.

AND I THINK SOME OF THOSE DEMOCRATS FELT LEFT OUT.

YOU KNOW, THAT WAS BY DESIGN, I GUESS, AND HER FIRST BUDGET AND WE'LL SEE HOW THEY GO IN THE FIRST AND A SOLID WIN FOR HER.

I'M SURE SHE'S HAPPY IT'S DONE AND THAT THEY'RE MOVING ON.

YOU KNOW, OVER TWO BILLION DOLLARS IN ONE-TIME SPENDING.

SO, YOU KNOW, THE SANTA SACK WAS OPEN AND HE MADE IT HAPPEN.

>> Ted: TWO TO $30 MILLION AAA $30 MILLION A LOTTED AND HOW BIG OF A DEAL IS THAT?

>> A BIG DEAL.

WE HAD SIMILAR THINGS AND THIS WAS UNPRECEDENTED IN THE AMOUNT OF SPENDING AND THE IRONY IS THERE ARE MORE REPUBLICANS FOR THIS BUDGET THAN THE LAST TWO REPUBLICAN BUDGETS.

AND SO, THE FREEDOM CAUCUS SAID WE'RE ON BOARD.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: DEMOCRATS HEAR THAT AND UH-HUH!

WE GOT TAKEN TO THE WOOD SHED AND WHY DID THE GOVERNOR NOT EVEN TOUCH VOUCHERS?

>> I THINK IT'S A MATTER OF HITTING THE EASY BUTTON.

LET'S LEAVE THESE DIFFICULT THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE ROOM AND SOME OF WHICH YOU LEAD IN WHICH ARE INSIDE OF THE ROOM AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THOSE THINGS WE KNOW WE CAN GET DONE AND OUT OF HERE.

SO SHE MADE A CHOICE AND SHE GOT A STUDY COMMITTEE AND TRUTHFULLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET A CAP ON VOUCHERS OUT OF THIS REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE.

YOU PROBABLY CAN GET SOME OVERSIGHT AND SOME STUDIES AND SOME LONGITUDINAL THINGS INFORMING FUTURE DECISIONS ABOUT THIS.

BUT THIS REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE IS NOT GOING TO GO FOR THAT.

>> Ted: YOU HAVE TO GIVE UP A LITTLE TO GIVE A LITTLE.

THEY'RE OFF UNTIL JUNE 12th.

>> ME MADE A MOTION TO LEAVE UNTIL TOMORROW UNTIL JUNE 12th AND WRAPPING UP AND MAYBE TOMORROW MORNING AND ADJOURN UNTIL JUNE 12th.

UNTIL SPRING BREAK FOR OUR LEGISLATURES AND TO COME BACK AND DEAL WITH THE ISSUES.

PERHAPS PROP 400 OR THE RENTAL TAX AND ZONING BILLS THAT ARE OUT THERE THAT MAY GET TRACTION.

AND WE'LL SEE IF THEY CAN BUILD SOME CONSENSUS AROUND THOSE IDEAS.

>> Ted: TITLE 42 ENDS AND AGAIN, THE STATE RESPONSE IS VAGUE AND NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR, BUT TALK ABOUT THE STATE RESPONSE, DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR, DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT AND HE SAID HE WOULD DO IT AND DID IT.

>> IT SEEMS LIKE, AT LEAST IN THE EARLY GOING, THERE'S NOT PANDEMONIUM.

>> WE REMEMBER TEXAS AND EL PASO AND GIANT HOARDS OF PEOPLE MOVING OVER THE BORDER AND CAMPING OUT NEXT TO THE BORDER.

WE'RE NOT SEEING A LOT OF THAT.

AND SO I ASSUME THE PROGRAMS THAT THE PRESIDENT AND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY PUT INTO PLACE HAVE ABSORBED SOME OF THAT SURGE AND SOME OF THE THINGS THEY DID TO NOTIFY PEOPLE, JUST DON'T SHOW UP.

GET ON THE APP, MAKE YOUR APP IN YOUR HOME COUNTRY AND WE'LL ADJUDICATE.

>> Ted: IMPACT ON DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR STATE OFFICE NEXT YEAR?

>> I THINK IF THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS AND THIS DOESN'T EXPLODE INTO THE DISASTER THAT PEOPLE, IT'S GOT TO BE LOOKED UPON AN A MANAGERIAL SUCCESS.

>> Ted: THE U.S. SENATE RACE.

>> WE JUST GOT OUT OF THE FIELD AND IMMIGRATION IS STILL THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE WITH REPUBLICAN VOTERS AND BLEEDS A LITTLE BIT INTO PND'S AND INDEPENDENTS AND IT'S NOT -- IT DOESN'T SEEM -- I READ THE ARTICLE IN THE "NEW YORK TIMES," THE LITANY OF THINGS THEY HAVE TRIED TO DO SINCE 2003.

THEY ALWAYS COME UP SHORT.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS TO HAPPEN, IS THEIR LEADERSHIP, SENATOR SINEMA IS TRYING TO EXECUTE ON SUMMER DISMISS DISMISS SOPHISTICATED AND ROW BUTT SUM ROBUST SYSTEM.

GOD BLESS HER.

>> Ted: IT ALWAYS COMES BACK TO TRUMP.

A SEXUAL ASSAULT CASE AND IT'S NOT SHOOTING SOMEONE ON FIFTH AVENUE AND A BIG DEAL OR IS IT?

>> IT IS IN THE SENSE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO AFFECT HIS BASE.

THEY'RE THERE AND THEY'LL BE FOR HIM.

WHAT IT DOES IS REJUVENATE -- I'VE SAID THIS, HE'S THE GREATEST DEMOCRATIC TURNOUT MACHINE OF ALL TIME AND THIS WILL SPUR MORE OF THAT.

I DID SEE OVER THE WEEK, THOUGH, THAT GOVERNOR DeSANTIS' CAMPAIGN GOT A LOT OF ENDORSEMENTS IN IOWA FROM THE SENATE PRESIDENT, FROM THE SPEAKER PRO TEM AND NUMEROUS -- THAT'S A CAUCUS STATE AND A GRASS ROOT'S ENTERPRISE AND, YOU KNOW, CAN HE OUTRACE THE FOOT RACE WITH SOME OF THE CAUCUS MEETS IN IOWA.

HE DIDN'T WIN IT IN '16 AND I WOULD LOOK TO SEE WHAT THE IMPACT OF SOME OF THE CONCLUSIONS THAT MOST OF US HAVE REACHED THAT DONALD TRUMP IS NOT AN ELECTABLE NOMINEE.

>> Ted: THAT BEING SAID, IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY READY TO CUT THAT PARTICULAR CORD?

[ Laughter ] >> I CANNOT SAY THAT TO BE THE TRUTH.

YOU KNOW, THERE IS AN USUAL AMOUNT OF FONDNESS FOR THE MAN AND HIS STYLE OF POLITICS.

AND THAT WILL BE THE CASE UNTIL SOMEBODY DISLODGES THAT.

>> Ted: CHUCK, GOOD TO YOU HAVE AND DISSECTING ALL OF THESE THINGS.

THIS WAS A BUSY WEEK LAST WEEK.

THANKS FOR JOINING US ANYONE.

UP NEXT, A TOURISM FIGHT IN SEDONA.

THE SEDONA CHAMBER HAS SEVERED THE CONTRACT WITH THE CITY OVER A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT THE BUREAU SAYS WERE AND WERE NOT HAPPENING IN REGARDS TO MARKETING SEDONA.

MICHELLE CONWAY IS CEO OF THE BUREAU AND JOINS US FROM SEDONA AND GOOD TO HAVE YOU.

WHY DID THE CHAMBER CUT TIES WITH THE CITY?

>> ONE OF THE MISSIONS OF THE ORGANIZATION TO SUPPORT THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY FOR THE LAST TWO, GOING ON THREE YEARS, WE'VE SPENT PROHIBITED FROM MARKETING THE DESTINATION.

WE'RE A DESTINATION MARKETING AND WE WERE ASKED TO CHANGE STRIPES AND ASKED TO BE SOMETHING THAT WAS CHALLENGING.

WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF OUR BUSINESS COMMUNITY AND CITY POLITICS.

AND SO WE DECIDED TO MAKE A CHANGE TO ALLOW US TO BETTER SUPPORT THE COMMUNITY AND NOT HAVE SHACKLES ON OUR HANDS.

>> Ted: WHY WERE THE SHACKLES PLACED THERE?

OBVIOUSLY SEDONA HAS TEN THOUSAND RESIDENTS AND THREE MILLION TOURISTS A YEAR AND WHAT WAS GOING ON?

>> YEAH, RIGHTFULLY SO.

WHEN COVID HIT, WE WERE PUMMELED WITH TOURISM AND ONE OF THE UNUSUAL DESTINATIONS THAT PEOPLE FELT COMFORTABLE VISITING.

SO WE GOT A LOT OF VISITATION.

SO NATURALLY WE AGREED AND SAID WE DON'T NEED A MARKET.

WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE COMING HERE AND WE WERE DEALING WITH IMPACTSIMPACTS OF OVERTOURISM AND A DECREASE IN HOTEL OCCUPANCY AND WE STARTED TO BE THE VOICE OF BUSINESS, 750 MEMBERS THAT WE HAVE AND WE STARTED TO SEE THE DECREASE AND THAT NEGATIVE IMPACT OF NOT MARKETS.

OVER TIME, IT JUST WAS STARTING TO TAKE A TOLL.

>> Ted: I'M SORRY.

NOT MARKETING TO LONGER STAYING VISITORS, DIFFERENT KINDS OF VISITORS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO SEDONA.

>> PEOPLE ARE STILL GOING TO SEDONA, BUT WHAT WAS SO INTERESTING IS THAT ESPECIALLY DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE SAW A DIFFERENT TYPE OF VISITOR.

WE SAW PEOPLE THAT MAYBE WOULDN'T HAVE NORMALLY CAME TO VISIT US AND MAYBE THEY WERE MORE INTERESTED IN A CITY DESTINATION AND WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW BYES ON THE LAN LAND AND HOW TO VISIT RESPONSIBLY AND WHAT HAPPENED, WE NOT ONLY HAD AN INFLUX OF VISITATION BUT BAD BEHAVIOR.

I ATTRIBUTE THAT TO NOT POSITIONING OURSELVES PROPERLY IN FRONT OF THE VISITOR.

PEOPLE HAD THEIR OWN PERCEPTION OF WHAT IT WOULD BE LIKE IN SEDONA AND WHERE THEY COULD GO AND HOW TO ACT.

THAT'S.YOU MANAGE AND BRING THE RIGHT PERSON TO THE RIGHT UNITED NATIONS DESTINATION.

>> Ted: HOW DID THE COUNCIL RESPOND?

>> IT WAS ABSOLUTELY SAID TO THE COUNCIL.

IN OUR INDUSTRY, THE ACRONYM IS DMMO ANYMORE, DESTINATION AND MARKETING MANAGEMENT ORGANIZATION.

WE WERE THE FIRST TO LEAD THE STATE IN A SUSTAINABLE TOURISM PLAN A HANDFUL OF YEARS AGO AND WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF BALANCE.

WHEN WE DID MENTION THE COUNCIL, WHERE WE WERE AT AND HOW WE NEEDED TO MARKET AGAIN, TO MANAGE AND BRING THE RIGHT VISITOR TO TOWN, THEY WERE JUST NERVOUS BECAUSE THE RESIDENTS REALLY WERE UP IN ARMS, ESPECIALLY IN 2021.

>> Ted: HOW DO YOU BRIDGE THE GAP THERE?

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE COUNCIL IS TIRED OF LISTENING TO THE GARBAGE AND CROWDEDNESS AND YOU HAVE BUSINESSES YOU HAVE TO BE AWARE OF AND TAKE CARE OF.

CHAMBERS AND COUNCILS HAVE PUSHED AND PULLED ON THESE THINGS IN OTHER AREAS FOR GENERATIONS.

WHY ISN'T IT WORKING IN SEDONA?

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> IT WASN'T JUST THE MARKETS AND LARGELY THAT AND OVER THE YEARS, THERE HAVE BEEN, I THINK, A GREATER TUG AND PULL BETWEEN US AND COUNCIL.

WE WERE GREATER PARTNERS WHEN WERE WERE COMING OUT LAST RECESSION.

THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN MARKETING AND GROWING THE VISITOR VOLUME.

WE WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND IT'S BEEN AWHILE AND LIKE I SAID, WE AGREED TO THE MARKETING PAUSE IN 2021.

THE LONGER YOU'RE OUT MARKET IN TERMS OF BRANDING AND ADVERTISING, IT TAKES TWICE, THREE TIMES, FOUR TIMES AS LONG TO GET BACK INTO THE MINDSET OF THE TRAVELING PUBLIC.

IT'S TAKING A TOLL.

WE JUST HAD TO MAKE A DECISION.

>> Ted: FOR THOSE RESIDENTS OF SEDONA WHO SAY THEY'LL SAY, YEAH, IT'S TAKING A TOLL ON MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND MY STREETS AND EVERYTHING LIKE THIS.

WE DON'T NEED MORE PIPETTE PEOPLE AND THE COUNCIL IS RIGHT, LET'S SLOW DOWN FOR AWHILE.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND IN.

>> I AGREE.

WE DO NEED BALANCE.

HOWEVER, WHAT ABOUT THE MEGAWHOLE FOODS WE HAVE AND WHAT ABOUT THE 50 RESTAURANTS WE HAVE?

WHAT ABOUT THE 80 GALLERIES AND SHOPS?

WE WOULDN'T HAVE THOSE AMAZING AMENITIES IN A TOWN OF TEN THOUSAND IF IT WASN'T FOR THE TOURISM.

THEY GENERATE 77% OF THE REVENUE.

IT'S INCREDIBLE WHAT TOURISM BRINGS TO YOU.

IF WE CAN FIND A BALANCE, THAT'S THE BEST CASE AND THAT'S OFTEN ILLUSIVE AND THAT'S PART OF WHY WE IN OUR OFFICE DO WHAT WE DO BECAUSE WE LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS.

WE DO LISTEN TO THE BUSINESSES.

IT'S JUST THAT THE PENDULUM SWUNG WAY FAR OVER TO THE RESIDENTS FOR TOO LONG AND TIME TO BRING IT BACK.

AT LEAST TO THE MIDDLE SO THE BUSINESSES CAN GET WHAT THEY NEED, AS WELL.

>> Ted: WE'LL HAVE SOMEONE FROM THE COUNCIL ON TOMORROW TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU SAID TODAY AND GET A LITTLE BALANCE OF OUR OWN.

MICHELLE CONWAY, WE THINK YOU FOR JOINING US.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

♪♪ >> Ted: PATRICK AND TERI CASERTA HAVE DEVOTED THEIR LIVES TO HELP KEEP WHAT HAPPENS TO TEAR SON THEIR SON TO HAPPENING TO OTHERS.

A BRANDON ACT FROM STIGMA AND RETALIATION AND THIS ESTABLISHED A SCHOLARSHIP AT ASU'S COLLEGE OF HEALTH SOLUTIONS.

THE FOUNDER OF THE CASERTA FOUNDATION.

THANK YOU FOR SHARING WHAT IS, I'M SURE, WHAT IS A DIFFICULT STORY AND WE'LL START WITH THAT STORY RIGHT OFF THE BAT.

TALK ABOUT YOUR SON.

>> HE WAS AMAZING!

HE LOVED TO HELP PEOPLE AND HE HELPED PEOPLE FROM WHEN HE WAS REALLY LITTLE.

IT DIDN'T MATTER, YOU KNOW -- NOTHING MATTERED TO BRANDON, WHETHER HE.HE JUST WANTED TO HELP PEOPLE.

>> Ted: HE JOINED THE NAVY AND WHAT HAPPENED THERE?

>> UNFORTUNATELY, HE ENDED UP IN A COMMAND, ULTIMATELY, THAT WAS TOXIC, ABUSIVE COMMAND, AND THEY ABUSED HIM IN EVERY WHAT WAY YOU COULD THINK OF.

WE FOUND OUT AFTERWARD.

UNFORTUNATELY, HE FELT HE HAD TO TAKE HIS OWN LIFE TO DRAW ATTENTION.

IN HIS LETTER, HE ASKED US TO FIX SOME THINGS THAT HAPPENED TO HIM.

WE DID THAT AND WE FOUND THAT HIS LEGACY WAS, INDEED, SAVING LIVES AND WANTING TO SAVE LIVES, SAVING SERVICE MEMBER'S LIVES.

>> Ted: IT HAD TO BE DIFFICULT, BUT YOU GOT A LOT DONE SO FAR.

>> WE HAVE.

HE'S BEEN GONE NEARLY FIVE YEARS AND IT TOOK NEARLY FOUR YEARS TO GET THE BRANDON ACT PASSED.

AND THE BRANDON ACT IS A WAY FOR SERVICE MEMBERS TO GET THE MENTAL HEALTH HELP THAT THEY NEED WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THEIR CHAIN OF COMMAND AND WITHOUT RETALIATION.

IT TOOK WAY LONGER THAN WE EVER THOUGHT IT WOULD.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT COULD SAVE LIVES.

YOU WOULD THINK EVERYBODY WOULD BE ON IT.

>> Ted: WHY DID IT TAKE SO LONG.

LONG?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WE'VE HAD -- DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE TOLD US IT WAS BECAUSE WE INCLUDED ALL OF THE MILITARY PERSONNEL, INCLUDING THE GUARD, THE NATIONAL GUARD AND THE RESERVIST AND THEY COULDN'T FIGURE OUT HOW TO IMPLEMENT THE BRANDON ACT FOR THE NATIONAL GUARD AND RESERVIST.

SO IT IS IN ONE PART, IT IS ACTIVE DUTY RIGHT NOW.

>> Ted: OK.

BUT THE IDEA THAT THERE SHOULDN'T BE RETRIBUTION, RETAIL RETALIATION, STIGMA BULLYING.

WHY WAS THIS SO DIFFICULT?

>> WE THOUGHT THAT TOO.

BOUGHT A NEW CAR AND STORMED CAPITOL AND THOUGHT THE WHOLE BUILDING WOULD BE BEHIND US.

WHAT THE MILITARY WANTS AND WHAT DOD WANTS AND IF THEY DON'T THINK IT, SOMETIMES THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

IF PEOPLE WORK FOR THEM DON'T THINK OF IT, THEY DON'T LIKE IT.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS A NO BRAINER AND BELIEVED IT WOULD BE EASY AND TURNED INTO A LONG PROCESS.

A GOOD PART, I CAN TELL YOU, IN THE END, CONGRESS CAME THROUGH.

THEY DID.

THEY REALLY DID.

WHEN DOD DIDN'T IMPLEMENT IT IMMEDIATELY, I MEAN, SENATOR KELLY, SENATOR CANE, THEY WERE ALL OVER IT.

WE WATCHED INTERVIEWS AND THE STUFF THEY SAID WAS REALLY FIRM.

>> Ted: THAT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR.

THE BRANDON ACT, GOT IT DONE.

I HOPE NOT NEARLY AS MUCH WORK SETTING UP THIS COLLEGE AT THE COLLEGECHCOLLEGE OF HEALTH SOLUTIONS.

TALK US TO ABOUT THAT.

>> SOMEONE FROM ASU TOLD US THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE COULD DO TO HONOR BRANDON, AS WELL.

PATRICK AND I, WE DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

ABSOLUTELY, PATRICK GRADUATED FROM ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY AND IT WAS A NO BRAINER FOR US.

>> Ted: COLLEGE OF HEALTH SOLUTIONS AND ANOTHER WAY HONOR YOUR SON AND ANOTHER WAY HONOR THE LEGACY OF YOUR SON, HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT TO YOU?

>> VERY.

IT'S WHAT WE FOCUSED ON AFTER HE DIED.

HIS LEGACY MEANS SOMETHING AND TO HELP OTHERS.

I LOVED IT WHEN I WENT TO ASU.

I WANTED TO GIVE BACK AND DO THINGS AND HIS LEGACY, SAVING LIVES, WE INHERITED HIS LEGACY SAVING LIVES AND HELPING OTHERS GETTING EDUCATED AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO FEELS RIGHT AND NOTHING LIKE GIVING BACK LIKE THAT.

>> Ted: THAT HAS TO BE A REWARDING ASPECT OF A TRAGIC STORY.

>> YES.

>> Ted: CONGRATULATIONS TO BOTH OF FOR THE HARD WORK AND IT HAS TO BE DIFFICULT AND YOU'VE DONE AMAZING WORK AND GETTING THE BRANDON WORK PASSED WAS LIKE PULLING TEETH AND YOU GOT IT DONE AND THE SCHOLARSHIP OF THE HEALTH SOLUTIONS AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: THAT IT IS FOR NOW.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!