>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, A LOOK AT A NEW SERVICE THAT HELPS TO PROTECT MARICOPA COUNTY RESIDENTS AGAINST TITLE FRAUD.

WE'LL HEAR ABOUT PLANS TO CREATE A NEW ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN PHOENIX.

SUMMER READING RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CHANGING HANDS BOOK STORE.

THAT'S NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

GOVERNOR HOBBS RETOWED A REPUBLICAN-BACKED BILL TO ALLOW MARICOPA COUNTY VOTERS TO EXTEND THE TRANSPORTATION TAX.

IT'S ONLY IF REVENUE DOES NOT GO TO LIGHT RAIL.

IN THE VETO LETTER, IT SAYS IT DOES NOTHING TO DRAW BUSINESS OR GOOD PAYING JOBS AND IT GOES FOR A COMPROMISE BY A BIPARTISAN MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE AND SENATE AND SUPPORTED BY MARICOPA COUNTY CITIES.

>>> FEDERAL CRIMINAL TRIAL AGAINST DONALD TRUMP WILL BEGIN IN MID-AUGUST.

THAT DATE WAS SET BY THE JUDGE TODAY AND A MID-AUGUST TRIAL DATE MEANS ARGUMENTS FOR THE PARAMETERS WILL BEGIN AT THE END OF JULY AND THESE DATES COULD BE PUSHED BACK DUE TO THE COMPLEXITIES WITH ISSUES RELATED TO CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.

TRUMP IS FACING 35 COUNTS OF MISHANDLING CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AFTER HE LEFT OFFICE.

>>> TODAY, NEWS THAT HUNTER BIDEN HAS AGREED TO PLEAD GUILTY THAT ALLOWS HIM TO AVOID PROSECUTION ON A SEPARATE GUN CHARGE.

THE PRESIDENT'S SON HAS AGREED TO FAILING TO PAY HIS 2017 AND 2018 TAXES ON TIME.

HE OWED MORE THAN $100,000 TAXES IN EACH OF THE TWO YEARS HE DIDN'T FILE.

>>> FORMER ARIZONA GOVERNOR DOUG DUCEY WILL LEAD A NEW GROUP ON FREE ENTERPRISE.

IN THE ANNOUNCEMENT, HE WARNED THAT FREE ENTERPRISE PRINCIPLES ARE, QUOTE, UNDER ATTACK AND HE'LL BE WORKING TO MOTIVATE MORE PEOPLE WHO CARE ABOUT FREE ENTERPRISE TO GET INVOLVED IN ELECTIONS.

HE WAS TERM LIMITED IN JANUARY.

>>> SEARCH AND RESCUE MISSIONS CONTINUE TO FIND A MISSING MINI-SUBMARINE CARRYING FIVE PEOPLE TO THE WRECKAGE SITE OF THE TITANIC.

EARLIER TODAY, THE COASTGUARD ESTIMATED THAT FIVE PEOPLE ON BOARD HAVE LESS THAN TWO DAYS OF BREATHABLE AIR LEFT.

>> SO, FIRST OF ALL, IT'S AN ESTIMATE, RIGHT, BECAUSE WE KNOW FROM THE DATA WE WERE USING, THE STARTING POINT WAS 96 HOURS.

WE KNOW AT THIS POINT, WE'RE APPROXIMATELY ABOUT 40, 41 HOURS.

>> Ted: CREWS ARE WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK IN A, QUOTE, INCREDIBLY OPERATION AND HAVE SEARCHED 71 HIM MILES OCEAN SOUTHWEST OF NEWFOUNDLAND BUT NO SIGN OF THE VESSEL.

>>> A U.S.

TASK FORCE RECOMMENDING ADULTS 19 TO 64 SHOULD BE SCREENED FOR ANXIETY DISORDERS.

THE FIRST TIME THIS HAS MADE SUCH A RECOMMENDATION AND THE GROUP FOUND, QUOTE, INSUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO RECOMMEND SCREENING FOR ANXIETY IN ADULTS 65 AND UP.

SCREENING RECOMMENDATIONS WERE PUBLISHED IN THE JOURNAL OF THE MEDICAL AMERICAN ASSOCIATION.

>>> TITLE FRAUD ON THE INCREASE IN ARIZONA AS HOMES ARE SOLD OUT FROM UNDER UNSUSPECTING PROPERTY OWNERS AND THE RECORD'S OFFICE TO PROTECT COUNTY RESIDENTS AGAINST TITLE FRAUD AND FOR MORE ON THIS, WE'RE JOINED BY MARICOPA COUNTY RECORDER, STEVEN RICHARD.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME BACK.

>> Ted: WHAT IS TITLE FRAUD?

>> IT'S HARD TO QUANTIFY AND NOT COMMON.

IF IT HAPPENS TO YOU, IT WILL TURN YOUR LIFE UPSIDE DOWN BECAUSE THE PROPERTY YOU THOUGHT YOU HAD TITLE TO HAS BEEN TAKEN OUT FROM UNDERNEATH YOU AND MANY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS TO RECLAIM THAT THROUGH THE JUDICIAL PROCESS AND THE SOMETHING BEST CAUGHT EARLY IF IT HAPPENS AT ALL AND ALLOWS YOU TO CATCH IT EARLY.

>> Ted: HOW DOES IT HAPPEN?

>> BECAUSE SOMEBODY WILL FORGE YOUR SIGNATURE AND THEN GET A FRAUDULENT NOTARY ON THE DOCUMENT AND THEN UNLAWFULLY CONVEY THE TITLE TO THE PROPERTY TO AN UNSUSPECTING BUYER.

THIS WILL OFTEN HAPPEN WITH VACANT LAND OR WITH INHERITED PROPERTY SUCH AS SOMEBODY WHOSE PARENTS WHO PASSED AND THEY INHERITED IT AND THEY DIDN'T CHECK IT OUT FOR SIX MONTHS AND CONVEYED AWAY.

WHEN YOU CHECK IT OUT, SOMEBODY HAS MOVED IN AND THROWN AWAY ALL MOM AND DAD'S STUFF.

THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN NEVER UNDUE.

>> Ted: I WOULD IMAGINE IF YOU HAVE THIS TITLE, YOU CAN TAKE OUT LOANS AND DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

>> YOU CAN TAKE OUT ANOTHER MORTGAGE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

>> Ted: WHY ISN'T THERE ANY MORE SCRUTINY INVOLVED?

THESE TRANSACTIONS HAPPEN UNDERNEATH THE RADAR AND WHY ISN'T THE RADAR LOWERED?

>> WE DON'T KNOW OF MANY INSTANCES IN WHICH THIS HAS HAPPENED BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE ASKING ABOUT THIS AND WE HAVE HAVEREFERRED THIS TO THE ATTORNEY GENERAL'S OFFICE AND WE WERE AWARE OF ONE THAT HAS A SENTENCING COMING UP JUST IN A FEW WEEKS AND SO, WE SPOKE WITH THAT LADY.

WE HEARD ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE, DEBBIE GOTLEIB AND WE'VE BEEN WORKWORKING WITH DEBBIE, WHICH IS A GOOGLE ALERT SERVICE, WHERE YOU CAN GIVES US YOUR NAME OR THE NAME OF WHOM YOU WANT TO MONITOR OR A TRUST OR THE NAME OF AN LLC.

ANY TIME ANYTHING IS RECORDED IN OUR DATABASE AGAINST THAT, YOU'LL AUTOMATICALLY BE EMAILED AT THE END OF THE DAY, A LINK TO THAT DOCUMENT AND THE YOU CAN PULL UP THAT DOCUMENT AND SEE IF IT RELATES TO YOU, ANOTHER TED SIMONS, AND THEN YOU HAVE PEACE OF MIND.

>> Ted: YOU HAVE TO OPT IN ON THIS?

>> YOU HAVE TO OPT IN, A VALID EMAIL ADDRESS AND WE USE THAT FOR THESE ALERTS, LESS THAN THREE MINUTES TO SIGN UP AND THE COMPLETELY FREE.

>> Ted: BY DOING SO, YOU CREATE ACCOUNTS.

>> CORRECT.

>> Ted: WHEN DID THIS START?

>> JUNE 1st, SO JUST THIS MONTH AND 26,000, APPROXIMATELY, PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR IT.

>> Ted: LAST POINT, EMAIL NOTIFICATION.

>> EMAIL NOTIFICATION.

>> Ted: WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> IF YOU SEE SOMETHING UNTOWARD OR A FRAUDULENT CONVEYANCE, TAKE IT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

LIKE I SAID, IF YOU CATCH THIS BEFORE A FEW DAYS OR A FEW WEEKS GO BY, YOU'RE IN A MUCH BETTER SITUATION FOR REVERSING THAT TRANSACTION AND RECLAIMING RIGHTFUL TITLE.

>> Ted: YOU'RE DOING THIS IN MARICOPA COUNTY, BUT NEW STATE LAW SAYS EVERYONE HAS TO DO THIS AND WHAT, 2025?

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

SO THAT LAW HAS BEEN PASSED AND HAS BEEN SIGNED AND DOESN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL THE STATE LEGISLATURE ADJOURNS AND 90 DAYS.

AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, YES, ALL 15 COUNTIES WILL BE REQUIRED TO HAVE SOME SUCH SERVICE AND THERE AREN'T MANY JURISDICTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES RIGHT NOW THAT HAVE THIS.

HOPEFULLY, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SERVE AS A MODEL OR AN ASSISTIVE DEVICE FOR THE OTHER COUNTIES WHO WILL HAVE TO ROLL THIS OUT.

>> Ted: 90 DAYS AFTER THE SINE DI GOES INTO EFFECT.

THEY WILL ALL BE FLOATING AROUND.

>> THEY WILL BE WORKING.

EVERY DAY.

>> Ted: ARE YOU RUN FOR REELECTION.

>> YES, I BELIEVE SO.

I HAVEN'T FORMALLY ANNOUNCED IT.

A LOT OF PEOPLE SAY, YOU MUST BE INSANE TO KEEP DOING THIS.

THERE'S A MEASURE AND THE COSTS HAVE BEEN SO HIGH AND THE BENEFITS, AND THE MEANING, THE PURPOSE AND WE'RE REALLY LIVING HISTORY AT THE RECORDER'S OFFICE BECAUSE WE'RE FRONT ROW ON THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.

THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO ME AND I WORK WITH WONDERFUL PEOPLE AND WE'LL MAKE PROGRESS LIKE THIS MARICOPA COUNTY TITLE ALERT AND STUFF ON VOTER REGULAR REGISTRATION.

>> Ted: DIDN'T GET ENOUGH, HUH?

>> ASK ME IN A FEW YEARS.

>> Ted: SOME FOLKS THOUGHT YOU HAD POLITICAL AMBITIONS IN LINE AND FRONT AND CENTER AS FAR AS THIS BUSINESS WITH ELECTION DENIER.

IS SOMETHING COMING UP?

>> THERE WAS A NICE ARTICLE TO RUN FOR U.S. SENATE AND FLY THE FLAG FOR TRADITIONAL CONSERVATIVETISM AND SOMEBODY IN FREE MARKET AND RULE OF LAW AND THE THINGS THAT HAVE BECOME MORE POPULAR AND ELECTION DENIALISM WHICH IS SOMETHING I PUSHED BACK AGAINST AND FOR NOW, THIS IS THE PLACE TO BE AND WHERE WE CAN MAKE A BIG IMPACT.

>> Ted: THERE'S AN ELECTION AND A LOT OF FOLKS AND REPUBLICANS WHO DON'T WANT TO SEE CONTINUED LOSSES IN A VARIETY OF WAYS.

MOSTLY BY VIRTUE OF ELECTION DENIALISM THEY'RE IN.

THEY SAY LET'S MOVE ON.

LET'S LOOK FORWARD.

YOU WENT THROUGH A LOT.

HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT LET'S NOT WORRY ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED?

>> I WOULD LOVE TO MOVE ON BUT WE GOT DOWN WITH ANOTHER KARI LAKE LAWSUIT AND SHE'S APPEALING THAT.

I AGREE WITH THAT SENTIMENT.

THIS WAS A SIGNIFICANT MOMENT IN HISTORY AND I'M A HUGE BELIEVER THAT NEEDS TO BE STUDIED AND NEEDS TO BE EXAMINED.

PEOPLE NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ROLE IN SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES.

BUT THAT BEING SAID AS A POLITICAL PARTY AND AS A SOCIETY, I HOPE THAT WE CAN MOVE PASSED THIS AND GET TO THE IMPORTANT CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE PUBLIC POLICY-WISE.

>> Ted: ARE ELECTION DENIERS EASING A BIT OR JUST A HEADLINE?

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I READ THE POLLS AND I SEE THE PEOPLE STILL PROMINENT WITHIN THE PARTY AND THAT SUGGESTS IT HAS PURCHASE OR DISQUALIFYING.

>> Ted: WHAT CAN YOU DO TO LESSEN THAT PURCHASE?

>> WE CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE KNOW TO DO, WHICH IS EDUCATE AND OFFER INFORMATION AND ANYONE WHO IS WATCHING THIS RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD LOVE TO OFFER YOU A TOUR AT OUR ELECTION'S FACILITY.

WE WANT TO BE THE PEOPLE EXPLAINING THE PROCESS, ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS RATHER THAN THE 19th PAGE OF THE GOOGLE SEARCH THAT MAY HAVE LESS THAN ACCURATE INFORMATION.

>> Ted: INTERESTING TIMES.

>> AS ALWAYS.

>> Ted: UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, PLANS BY THE CITY OF PHOENIX TO CREATE A NEW ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT.

THE CITY OF PHOENIX IS LOOKING TO CREATE A NEW ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AS PART OF EXPANSION PLAN FOR THE PHOENIX CONVENTION CENTER AND WOULD INCLUDE RESTAURANTS AND RETAIL TO SMALL PARKS AND A CLIMATE-CONTROLLED WALKWAY.

CHRIS MACKAY IS THE DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OF THE CITY OF PHOENIX.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: A NEW ENTERTAINMENT CENTER IN DOWNTOWN PHOENIX.

WHEN WE TALK ABOUT AN ENTERTAINMENT CENTER, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> IT'S AN AREA THAT EXISTS ALREADY TODAY FOCUSED ON PLACE-MAKING, A BRANDING OPPORTUNITY OF CERTAIN AREAS FOCUSED AROUND ARTS AND SUCH, OUR SPORT'S VENUES, MUSIC, RESTAURANTS AND CONVENTION CENTER.

SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT TRAVEL AND YOU LOVE TO GO TO A SPECIFIC DESTINATION LOCATION THAT'S BEEN BRANDED, THINK OF THE GAS LAMP DISTRICT IN SAN DIEGO.

THAT'S A PLACE PEOPLE WILL GO TO OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

>> Ted: WHERE WAS THIS PLANNED?

>> SHOULD THE COUNCIL APPROVE THIS AT THE JUNE 8th 28th MEETING, WE WOULD SECURE AN CONSULTANT OF WHERE THAT WOULD BE.

IT WOULD BE THE DIAMONDBACKS AND THE SUNS AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT ROOSEVELT ROW AND THE ARTWALK AND THE WALKING INTO THAT AREA, IT FEELS TO CONNECT INTO THAT AREA.

>> Ted: THAT'S A BIG AREA.

BALLPARK TO ROOSEVELT ROW.

>> A NICE WALKABLE AREA.

>> Ted: IT IS SOME TIMES OF THE AREA.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: FOURTH STREET ALONG WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER?

>> WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT, THERE'S A GREAT CONVENTION CENTER AND THIS IS AN OLDER AREA OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AND IT'S REIMAGINING THAT AND THIS IS A CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE NEWER CONVENTION CENTERS AND THE EXPANDED ONES ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF WASHINGTON.

>> Ted: ROOSEVELT ROW AND THAT'S BEEN HERE AWHILE AND I REMEMBER WHEN THAT WAS NOTHING, NOTHING LIKE IT IS RIGHT NOW.

THAT KIND OF GREW ORGANICALLY.

HOW DO YOU CREATE SOMETHING AND NOT HAVE THAT ORGANIC GROWTH AS ITS FOUNDATION?

>> I THINK THAT'S WHY IT'S SO IMPORTANT TO INVOLVE STAKEHOLDERS.

IT'S BECAUSE ONE WOMAN AND ONE MAN OPENED SOMETHING DRUG INFESTED AND THEY HAD A VISION OF WHAT THEY WANTED IT TO BE AND THEY'VE STAYED THERE AND ARE STILL THERE TODAY AND IT'S GROWN THROUGH FOCUSING ON LOCAL AND THINGS MOVING FORWARD.

SO LOOKING AT THIS FROM A STAKEHOLDER'S STANDPOINT, 90% OF THE RETAIL IS LOCAL AND HOW DO WE INVOLVE THESE RETAIL OWNERS TO HAVE THEM IDENTIFY AND LET IT HALF OVERTIME.

>> Ted: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT THIS TOURIST ORIENTED, IS THIS LOCAL?

HOW DO YOU GET LOCALS DOWN THERE AT TIMES WHEN THE TOURISTS ARE NOT SO ANXIOUS TO BE IN DOWNTOWN PHOENIX?

>> THAT'S WHAT'S SO GREAT.

WE HAVE 300,000 CONVENTION DESEERS AND WE HAVE A LOT OF INFLUX OF THE LOCAL CITIZENS THAT COME INTO DOWNTOWN PHOENIX AND ENGAGING SOMETHING THAT MAKES THEM TO STAY AROUND LONGER OR IF THERE'S NOT A SUN'S GAME TO COME IN TO SEE WHAT MIGHT BE HAPPENING ON THE MUSIC FRONT OR ART'S FRONT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING FOR.

NOT ONLY ARE EXISTING BUSINESSES, BUT OUR CITIZENS AND CONVENTIONEERS.

>> Ted: THE CONVENTION CENTER, FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND, THIS IS ANOTHER WAY GET THE CONVENTION CENTER TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE.

OTHER CITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE DOING A LOT WITH THEIR DOWNTOWNS AND THESE THINGS.

IS THE PHOENIX CONVENTION CENTER, DOES IT NEED TO BE MORE COMPETITIVE?

>> THE PHOENIX CONVENTION CENTER IS A HUGE DRAW FOR CONVENTIONS AND JUST SMALLER AND USING THE SOUTH BUILDING SITE TO DO 150,000-FOOT EXPANSION, AND THEN ADDING BETWEEN 800 AND 1200 ROOMS CAME OUT OF A 2019 STUDY BY CONVENTION SPORTS AND LEISURE THAT SAYS WHERE YOU RANK IN COMPETITIVENESS BUT YOU'RE NOT BIG ENOUGH TO ATTRACT THE LARGER CONVENTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT OUR FOCUS IS, IS REALLY ALL AROUND THE CONVENTION BUSINESS AND HOW TO BRING MORE HOTEL ROOMS.

>> Ted: AND CREATING A NATIONALLY, IDENTIFIABLE IMAGE.

COPPER SQUARE DIDN'T WORK OUT AND THIS IS DIFFERENT, HOPEFULLY, THAN COPPER SQUARE.

THE IDEA OF A GAS LAMP DISTRICT IN DOWNTOWN PHOENIX.

DOES IT HAVE A NAME YET?

>> IT DOESN'T AND TO YOUR POINT, I WAS NOT IN PHOENIX BUT EAST VALLEY WHEN COPPER SQUARE WAS CREATED.

IT HAD A GREAT CONCEPT AND TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, IT WAS NOT CREATED ORGANICALLY AND SOMEBODY SAID, THIS IS WHAT THIS WILL BE MOVING FORWARD AND THIS IS LIKE OUR PHOENIX'S HOT BRAND AND THAT HAPPENED ORGANICALLY.

ONE OF OUR CITIZENS CALLED ME AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT I THINK IT SHOULD BE AND IT STUCK.

THAT'S SEVEN YEARS LATER PLAYING ON A GLOBAL SCALE AS TO THE PHOENIX IS SO HOT, IT'S COOL.

>> Ted: I NOTICED THE PLANS TALK ABOUT MAKING A MORE WALKABLE AREA AND ENVIRONMENT AND HOW DO YOU DO THAT AND A 115° NEXT WEEK OR DO YOU DO THAT AT CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR?

I THINK WE DO WANT AN 18-HOUR, SEVEN DAY A WEEK ECONOMY IN DOWNTOWN FEEDBACK.

THE CONVENTION SITE, IT'S JEFFERSON TO WASHINGTON AND THIRD STREET TO FIFTH STREET AND SOWSO YOU CAN'T WALK THROUGH IT.

HOW DO YOU OPEN UP FOURTH STREET FOR PEDESTRIAN TASK AND SHADE IT PUTTING COOLING SYSTEMS AND TREES, LOTS OF THOSE THINGS THAT MAKE IT WALKABLE IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

>> Ted: MAYOR CITY COUNCIL, ARE THEY ON BOARD?

>> THEY'LL LET US KNOW THAT ON JUNE 28th, TAKING A PUBLIC VOTE AND WE HAVE BEEN BEFORE SUBCOMMITTEE AND RECEIVED A UNANIMOUS VOTE FROM FOUR COUNCIL MEMBERS.

SO WE'RE EXCITED FOR THE 28th 28th TO MOVE FORWARD.

>> Ted: LET'S GO AHEAD AND SAY IT'S APPROVED WANT WHAT HAPPENS THEN?

>> A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDED PROPER AFTER COMMUNITY MEETINGS FOR THE FALL AND THE GET STARTED ON THE PROCESS INDEPENDENT.

>> Ted: AFTER THIS FALL, THEN WHAT?

>> WE'LL COME BACK TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

>> Ted: THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR FOR SUMMER READING AND THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF BOOKS OUT THERE TO HELP READERS ENJOY THE SUMMER MONTHS AND WHICH BOOKS TO CHOOSE?

WE THOUGHT WE WOULD ASK GAYLE SHANKS, CHANGING HANDS BOOK STORE.

HOW HAVE YOU BEEN?

>> GOOD.

I'M ABOUT TO GO TO THE BEACH WITH MY BOX OF BOOKS.

I HAVE NOTHING ELSE PACKED.

40 BOOKS READY TO GO.

>> Ted: 40 BOOKS?

>> 40 BOOKS.

>> Ted: WHAT MAKES A GOOD SUMMER READ?

>> IT DEPENDS ON THE PERSON, BUT FOR ME, I A GOOD SUMMER READ IS A BOOK THAT KEEPS ME TURNING THE PAGES, THAT HAS SOME DEPTH OF CHARACTER, THAT HAS A REALLY GREAT STORY AND IS ALSO WELL-WRITTEN.

I'M A SNOB WHEN IT COMES TO GOOD WRITING AND THAT'S A PART OF WHAT I WANT.

>> Ted: ESCAPISM WAS A FACTOR AND IS THAT NOT A FACTOR ANYMORE?

>> I LOOK AT PEOPLE READING ON THE BEACH AND PEOPLE ARE READING THRILLERS AND MYSTERIES AND OCCASIONALLY, I READ ONE OF THOSE, TOO.

YEAH, IT'S DEFINITELY, YOU KNOW, SUMMER AND YOU CAN SORT OF LOUNGE AND READ AND EVEN IF YOU'RE NOT AT THE BEACH, YOU CAN BE AT HOME UNDER THE AIR CONDITIONING UNIT AND READING A GOOD BOOK.

>> Ted: NEXT TO A BUCKET OF ICE.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: THE FIRST ONE IS COVENANT OF WATER AND SOUNDS LIKE WHAT CHILD BRIGHT AND INDIA BUSINESS AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT?

>> YOU WOULD WORRY ABOUT THAT BECAUSE THAT BOOK IS THIS REALLY INCREDIBLE EPIC NOVEL AND OVER 700 PAGES.

>> Ted: WOW!

>> ONE BOOK THAT YOU WANT TO READ AND HAVE TIME TO READ IN THE SUMMER AND THAT WOULD BE THE ONE I WOULD PICK FOR YOU AND IT IS ABOUT A CHILD BRIDE WHO IS 12 AND FORTUNATELY, SHE GETS TO LIVE HER CHILDHOOD BEFORE SHE ACTUALLY BOOKS A MOTHER AND A WIFE TO THE WIDOWER THAT SHE'S SENT OFF TO MARY IN SOUTHERN INDIA.

AND IT'S WRITTEN BY THIS MAN, ABRAHAM, HOODY WHO BY DAY IS A DOCTOR AND HE WROTE, "CUTTING FOR STONE" AND THIS IS ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS TO BE A DOCTOR AND THE PASSION THAT PEOPLE HAVE.

SO I LEARNED A LOT ABOUT WHY FOLKS CHOOSE TO BE DOCTORS AND IN THIS PARTICULAR BOOK, YOU REALLY DO LEARN A LOT, NOT ONLY ABOUT THE DOCTORING BUSINESS BY THE CULTURE OF INDIA FOR NEARLY 100 YEARS.

>> Ted: WOW!

THAT'S "THE COVENANT OF WATER"."

>> AND THIS IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THE WEST BANK PUTTING ON THE PLAY "HAMLET."

AND THIS IS A CURIOUS, INTERESTING LOOK AT ACTORS AND AT THE PLAY ITSELF AND WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN THE WEST BANK UNDER ISRAELI OCCUPATION AND IT'S ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW ACTORS WORK TOGETHER, WHEN THEY'RE DOING A PLAY, SO YOU SORT OF GET THIS INSIDE SCOOP ON WHAT IT'S LIKE TO PUT ON A PLAY AND IT IS JUST BRILLIANT WRITING.

SHE, TOO, THIS IS HER SECOND NOVEL AND WROTE ONE CALLED THE PERISIAN.

THIS IS A REALLY GOOD STORY.

>> Ted: INTERGHOST AND THEN THE POSTCARD.

ATHIS IS A HARDER ONE AND THIS ISA PARTIALLY SET DURING THE HOLOCAUST AND A LOT OF BOOKS THAT COME OUT, BOTH FICTION AND NONFICTION AND THIS PARTICULAR ONE HAS THAT MYSTERY THAT WE WERE TALKING AND MAYBE PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR A MYSTERY.

TRUTHFULLY, THE MYSTERY OF THIS BOOK IS THAT SOME PEOPLE IN 1974 RECEIVE A POSTCARD, A FAMILY AND IT HAS THE NAME OF FOUR FAMILY MEMBERS THAT DIED IN THE CAMPS DURING THE HOLOCAUST AND THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND WHO SENT THEM THE POSTCARD, WHY DID THEY GET IT AND IT TAKES BACK TO THE DAYS IN PARIS WHERE THIS FAMILY LIVED AND TAKES YOU THROUGH A BIT OF THE FAMILY'S EXPERIENCE IN THE CAMPS, BUT A LOT OF IT IS DEALING WITH WHO AM I AS AN ANCESTOR OF A HOLOCAUST VICTIM AND WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND HOW DO I COME TO GRIPS WITH MY PRESENT THAT IS ALSO CONNECTED SO DRAMATICALLY TO MY PAST?

AND SO THE FAMILY IS KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, WELL, HOW DOES THAT WORK?

>> Ted: THAT'S DEEP STUFF FOR A SUMMER READ.

>> VERY DEEP FOR A SUMMER READ, BUT IT WAS WRITTEN IN FRENCH, SO IT'S TRANSLATED, BUT IT IS BEAUTIFULLY TRANSLATED AND ONE OF THOSE BOOKS THAT YOU WOULD SAY, OH, THIS WAS WORTH MY SUMMER.

[ Laughter ] >> TO SPEND TIME READING THIS BOOK.

>> Ted: "Mrs. QUEEN TAKES THE TRAIN."

THIS SOUNDS LIKE A PBS SUMMER READ.

>> IT DOES.

I WASN'T A BIG "THE CROWN" FAN AND I WAS SO MAD AT ELIZABETH FOR NOT STANDING UP FOR HERSELF, TO BE HONEST.

IN THIS BOOK, QUEEN ELIZABETH IS 70 YEARS OLD AND DECIDES ONE DAY THAT SHE IS GOING TO GO ININCOGNITO TO SEE WHAT HER COUNTRY IS ABOUT ININCOGNITO TO SEE WHAT HER ININCOGNITO TO SEE WHAT HER ININCOGNITO TO SEE WHAT HER DIANA HAS JUST DIED AND TRYING TO COME TO GRIPS WITH HER CORD ANDWORLD.THEY ARE AMAZING AND HE HAVE DRINKS WITH HER AND TREAT HER TO A MEAL AND IT'S WONDERFUL, AND THE WRITING IS TERRIFIC AND I LOVED IT.

>> Ted: WE LOVE HAVING YOU HERE WITH THE BOOK RECOMMENDATIONS AND THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GAYLE SHANKS AND "Mrs. SHANK TAKES THE TRAIN" WAS THE LAST ONE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: I'M TED SIMONS AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!