>> JOINING ME NOW IS MARK REGEV.

HE IS SPECIAL ADVISER TO THE ISRAELI PRIME MINISTER BENJAMIN NETANYAHU.

WELCOME BACK TO THE PROGRAM, MARK REGEV.

AS I SAID THERE, DISPUTED TIMELINES.

EITHER THE SHOOTING WAS FIRST AND THEN THE STAMPEDE, OR THE STAMPEDE WAS FIRST AND THEN THE SHOOTING, BUT THE FACTS ARE THE FACTS.

THERE ARE DEAD AND INJURED.

I THINK THE FIRST QUESTION, IF YOU COULD ANSWER IS WHO WERE THESE AID -- WHO WAS THIS AID BEING DRIVEN IN BY OR FOR?

THE U.N. AND THE NORMAL KNOWN AID AGENCY SAID THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

DO YOU KNOW WHO IT WAS?

>> I KNOW THE FOLLOWING.

THAT IN ORDER TO HELP ALLEVIATE THE FOOD SHORTAGE IN GAZA, THAT WE AUTHORIZED A CONVOY I THINK OF SOME 30 TRUCKS INTO GAZA LAST NIGHT HEADED FOR THE NORTHERN GAZA STRIP.

AND THIS SHOWS THAT ISRAEL IS INTERESTED IN SEEING AID AND FOODSTUFFS REACH THE CIVILIAN POPULATION.

UNFORTUNATELY, WE SAW A SITUATION WHERE THERE WAS A MASS CASUALTY TRAGEDY WHERE IT LOOKED LIKE CIVILIANS WERE STORMING THE TRUCKS, TRYING TO TAKE THE FOOD OUT OF DESPERATION, AND PEOPLE -- A CROWD WAS PUSHING AND SHOVING AND PEOPLE WERE KILLED.

I CAN'T TELL YOU THE EXACT NUMBERS.

AS YOU KNOW, I DON'T TRUST THE NUMBERS PUT OUT BY THE HAMAS MINISTRY OF HEALTH IN GAZA.

THERE WERE REPORTS THAT MAYBE THEIR DRIVERS WERE DRIVING OVER PARTS OF THE CROWD.

IT APPEARS TO BE A TRAGEDY.

BUT I CAN TELL YOU, ISRAEL WAS NOT INVOLVED DIRECTLY IN ANY WAY.

>> WHEN YOU SAY "NOT INVOLVED DIRECTLY IN ANY WAY," WHAT DO YOU MEAN?

YOU ENABLED THIS CONVOY, AS YOU SAID, AND YOUR FORCES ARE THERE ON THE GROUND AND OPENED FIRE.

THEY SAID IT THEMSELVES.

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN NOT INVOLVED IN ANY WAY?

>> SO THIS WAS WHERE WE ALLOWED THE AID TO COME IN.

WE'RE INVOLVED THAT WAY.

THAT'S OUR POLICY.

TO ALLOW FOOD TO GO INTO GAZA FOR THE CIVILIAN POPULATION.

BUT IN THE INCIDENT OF PEOPLE STORMING THE TRUCKS AND THE WAY THE TRUCK DRIVERS BEHAVED AND PEOPLE GETTING SQUASHED AND PRESS AND APPARENTLY THERE BEING MASH CASUALTIES, ISRAEL WAS NOT THERE ON THE GROUND.

>> OKAY.

BURY THEY DID OPEN FIRE, AND PEOPLE WERE KILLED.

SO I'M COMPLETELY CONFUSED BY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BECAUSE THEY ADMITTED.

THE IDF SPOKESMAN SAID IT.

SAID IT ON OUR AIR.

THAT THEY OPENED FIRE.

>> THAT'S -- THAT'S A SEPARATE INCIDENT.

>> OKAY.

>> NOT CONNECTED TO THE TRAGEDY WITH THE TRUCKS.

>> UH-HUH.

>> AND THAT WAS -- THAT WAS DIFFERENT PLACE, DIFFERENT TIME IN THE GENERAL LOCATION.

BUT NOT THE SAME INCIDENT AT ALL.

>> ALL RIGHT.

>> I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT WE ARE NOT AWARE THAT THE IDF FIRED CAUSED CASUALTIES AT ALL.

>> WELL, I CAN TELL YOU THAT A JOURNALIST WHO CNN WORKS WITH ON THE GROUND HAS A DIFFERENT VIEW OF IT.

BUT MAYBE THERE WERE OTHER INCIDENTS.

THAT OBVIOUSLY YOU SAY IS UNDER REVIEW AND WE WILL HOPE TO GET CLARIFICATION.

HERE'S THE THING.

ISRAEL IS THE ONLY FORCE IN CHARGE OF SECURITY BY YOUR OWN ANNOUNCEMENTS, BY YOUR OWN VOLITION, BY YOUR OWN ACTIONS OVER THE LAST FIVE MONTHS SORE THERE.

IT IS, AS EVERYBODY IS SAYING, ISRAEL'S RESPONSIBILITY THEREFORE IF YOU LET THESE TRUCKS IN, TO PROVIDE SECURITY.

AND THIS OBVIOUSLY COMES IN THE CONTEXT OF SO LITTLE FOOD GOING IN THAT PEOPLE ARE DESPERATE, AS WE'VE HEARD FROM THE INTERNATIONAL FORCES.

SO FIRST, AREN'T YOU THE ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT PEOPLE IN THE GAZA STRIP RIGHT NOW?

>> UNFORTUNATELY, HAMAS HAS NOT YET BEEN COMPLETELY DESTROYED.

AND I SHOULD HAVE BEEN CLEARER.

IN THE FIRST INCIDENT OF THE TRUCK BEING SWAMPED BY CIVILIANS, THERE WAS GUNFIRE, BUT IT WASN'T ISRAELI FORCES.

THERE WEREN'T ISRAELI FORCE ON THE TRUCKS OR AROUND THE TRUCKS.

THAT WAS PALESTINIAN ARMED GROUPS.

WE DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS HAMAS OR OTHER ARMED GROUPS.

BUT THERE DEFINITELY WAS FIRE.

THAT WE DO KNOW.

>> OKAY.

SO MY QUESTION, AGAIN, ISRAEL IS THE ONLY LAW ENFORCEMENT OPERATION ON THE GROUND, AS YOU WAGE THIS WAR.

THEREFORE, IF YOU ALLOW THESE TRUCKS IN, WHO DO YOU EXPECT TO PROVIDE THE SECURITY FOR THEM?

BECAUSE EVERY CONVOY NEEDS SECURITY.

I'VE COVERED THIS FROM TIME IMMEMORIAL BACK FROM BOSNIA TO SOMALIA AND ELSEWHERE.

IT ALL REQUIRES DISCIPLINE, ORGANIZATION, AND COORDINATION AND SECURITY.

WHO DO YOU THINK SHOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR SECURITY IN THE CONVOY THAT YOU ALLOWED IN?

>> SO IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION, AND WE'RE GRAPPLING WITH IT, AND WE'RE TALKING TO THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY, TO THE AID ORGANIZATIONS, TO THE UNITED NATIONS, TO OTHER PARTNERS WHO ARE RELEVANT IN THIS CONVERSATION, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, WE WANT TO SEE THE AID SAFELY REACH THE PEOPLE.

NOW IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE, AS YOU KNOW, HAMAS HAS BEEN STEALING AID.

THAT'S BEEN DOCUMENTED.

WE'VE HEARD PEOPLE IN GAZA COMPLAIN ABOUT THIS.

SO IS IT POSSIBLE THAT PEOPLE IN GAZA DON'T TRUST THAT THIS AID THAT THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY IS GIVING TO THE PEOPLE OF GAZA IS ACTUALLY REACHING THE PEOPLE OF GAZA AND NOT BEING SIPHONED OFF BY THE TERRORISTS?

THAT COULD BE ONE OF THE REASONS TO EXPLAIN WHAT IS GOING ON.