>> Ted: NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, DETAILS OF DONALD TRUMP'S ARRAIGNMENT ON MORE THAN THREE DOZEN CHARGES RELATED TO THE MISHANDLING OF CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND HOW BEST TO ADDRESS INEQUITIES.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO HEARSAY HORIZON.

FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY PLEADED NOT GUILTY TO 37 COUNTS INVOLVING THE MISHANDLING OF DOCUMENTS AND AN OBSTRUCTION OF AN INVESTIGATION.

TODAY'S PROCEEDINGS LASTED HA 45 MINUTES AND NO MUGSHOT.

TRUMP WAS RELEASED UNDER THE CONDITION HE NOT SPEAK WITH WALT NAUTA.

TRUMP WILL NOT BE REQUIRED TO RELINQUISH HIS PASSPORT AND NO COURT ORDERED INTERNATIONAL TRAVEL.

NOT LONG AFTER THE ARRAIGNMENT, TRUMP FLEW TO NEW JERSEY FOR A CHAIN ADDRESS AND FUNDRAISER FOR THIS EVENING.

WE WILL HAVE MUCH MORE ON THE ARRAIGNMENT OF TRUMP IN JUST A MOMENT.

>>> THE STATE LEGISLATURE'S RETURN FROM A RECESS SCHEDULED WITH NO PROGRESS AS YET REGARDING PROP 400.

A MARICOPA COUNTY HAVE SENT A SALES TAX WHICH NEEDED APPROVAL FOR THE BALLOT.

THE STICKING POINT IS LATE RAIL LIGHT RAIL.

THEY DON'T WANT TO SHORE UP EXISTING LIGHT RAIL LINES.

AS SUCH REPUBLICANS ARE PUSHING TWO BILLS THAT WOULD REQUIRE TWO SEPARATE QUESTIONS FOR VOTERS AND ONE THAT EXTENDS THE TAX AND THE OTHER THAT ONLY FUNDS LIGHT RAIL.

THAT PLAN IS LIKELY TO BE VETOED BY THE GOVERNOR.

>>> AS OF LATE THIS AFTERNOON, LAWMAKERS HAVE FAILED TO AGREE ON ATO EASEEASING LOCAL CONTROL.

LEGISLATION TO THAT END DESIGNED TO MAKE IT EASIER APPEARED TO HAVE THE VOTES AND GOVERNOR'S APPROVAL AND SOME VOTES HAVE FALLEN OFF, SO THE COMPROMISED DEAL APPEARS TO BE OFF.

>>> AS WE MENTIONED, FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS BOOKED TODAY ON 37 COUNTS ON HANDLING CLASSIFIED INTELLIGENCE AND OBSTRUCTION OF A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION.

FIRST TIME A FORMER PRESIDENT HAD FACED FEDERAL CHARGES AND FOR MORE ON WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT'S NEXT IN THIS CASE, WE WELCOME U.S. ATTORNEY PAUL CHARLTON.

OUR GO-TO GUY WITH THIS KIND OF STUFF FAR TOO OFTEN.

DID YOU EVER THINK WE WOULD SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS, ESPECIALLY WITH INTELLIGENCE INFORMATION REGARDING THE DEFENSE?

DID YOU THINK WE WOULD SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS?

>> NO.

IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY TIME IN HISTORY.

FIRST, AS SAY, A FORMER PRESIDENT CHARGED WITH MULTIPLE FELONY OFFENSES WITHIN THE COURT SYSTEM, NUMBER ONE.

NUMBER TWO, THE GRAVITY OF WHAT IS ALLEGED TO HAVE OCCURRED HERE.

THE SHARING OF NATIONAL SECRETS INCLUDING NUCLEAR WEAPON SECRETS AND PLANS TO INVADE A FOREIGN COUNTRY.

THOSE SECRETS ARE NOT ONLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE WE NEED TO KEEP THOSE SECRETS TO OURSELVES OURSELVES BUT IT INVOLVES MEN AND WOMAN WOMEN WHO PUT THEIR LIVES AT RISK.

WHEN IT'S SHARED WITH OTHERS, THEIR LIVES ARE AT RISK AND WHY IT IS WE SHOULD NOT SHARE SECRETS OR STORE THEM.

THAT COMBINATION OF A FORMER PRESIDENT AND IMPROPERLY SHARING THAT IS AN EXTRAORDINARY GRAVE OFFENSE.

>> Ted: WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED TODAY?

>> TODAY WAS AN INTERESTING DAY BECAUSE IT HAPPENS TO DEFENDANTS EVERY DAY IN COURTROOMS THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY AND AN EVERY DAY OCCURRENCE AND A PROCEDURAL THING AND NO BARRACK YOU'RE ASKED IF YOU WISH TO HAVE IT READ TO YOU AND THEY DON'T AND WAIVE THE READING AND PLEAD NOT GUILTY.

THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED TODAY.

YOU'RE BOOKED, IN A SENSE, WITH AN ELECTRONIC IMAGE.

THEY USED ANOTHER IMAGE OF HIM, INSTEAD AN ACTUAL BOOKING PHOTO BECAUSE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WELL-KNOWN AND THE RISK OF FLIGHT OR HARM TO THE COMMUNITY IS LOW.

SO HE'S RELEASED.

AND THEAND NOW HE'LL CAMPAIGN AND HE'LLDEFEND HIMSELF AGAINST THESE CHARGES.

>> Ted: WHEN THE TRIAL STARTS, WE'LL HEAR A GAG ORDER AND YOU TELL ME.

HE'S RUNNING OUT THERE TONIGHT AND PROBABLY WILL CALL THIS ALL SORTS OF THINGS.

FIRST OF ALL, CAN HE DO THAT?

SECONDLY, IS IT WISE FOR A DEFENDANT TO DO THESE KINDS OF THINGS?

NO DEFENSE ATTORNEYS WORTH HIS OR ALL SALT WOULD ALLOW A DEPARTMENTDEFENDANT TO SPEAK ABOUT THE CHARGES AGAINST HIM, BUT YOU CAN'T STOP FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP.

WHAT WE'LL HERE IN THE SPEECH THIS EVENING AND IN THE PAST AND WHAT WE'LL HEAR IN THE FUTURE ARE THE DEFENSES PUT FORWARD WITH A POLITICAL VIEW.

NONE OF THOSE DEFENSES, IF ANY AT ALL, WOULD WORK IN THE FOUR CORRESPONDENCES OFCORNERS AT ALL.

WHY HASN'T PRESIDENT BIDEN BEEN CHARGED OR HILLARY CLINTON BEEN CHARGED?

THAT'S NOT A DEFENSE.

YOU WON'T HEAR THAT FROM HIS LAWYERS IN COURT.

WHAT WE HERE IN THE PUBLIC VENUE IS MUCH DIFFERENT THAN ANY DEFENSE HE MAY RAISE IN COURT.

>> Ted: IS THERE SOMETHING HE CAN SAY TONIGHT, WHEN HE IS RILED UP, CAN THAT BE USED AGAINST HIM IN THIS TRIAL?

>> I AND THE WE'LL SEE THAT SHOULD THIS THING ARRIVE AT ALL.

BUT ANYTHING HE HAS SAID, FOR EXAMPLE, IN INTERVIEWS, I CAN THINK ABOUT DECLASSIFYING INFORMATION WITHOUT SAYING THAT THE INFORMATION SHOULD BE DECLASSIFIED AND THAT MEANS THE INFORMATION WILL BE DECLASSIFIED AND THAT'S AN ODD REMARK ABOUT DECLASSIFYING INFORMATION AND WILL BE USED.

>> Ted: YOU MENTIONED IF IT GOES TO TRIAL AND NOT QUITE SURE.

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> THE GREATEST DEFENSES AND WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, IN ANY CRIMINAL CASE ARE DELAY, DELAY AND DELAY.

WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LAWYERS WILL DO IS TO SEEK TO CONTINUE THIS TRIAL UNTIL AFTER THE ELECTION BECAUSE REALLY THE GREATEST HOPE FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP IS A PARDON AT THE END OF THE DAY.

THAT SOME OTHER CANDIDATE OR HE HIMSELF WILL ARRIVE AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND DISMISS THE CHARGES OR PARDON FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR THESE OFFENSES.

AND DELAY IS A REASONABLE EXPECTATION HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A COMPLEX CASE.

THINK ABOUT ONE ASPECT OF THIS, TED, AND THAT IS FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LAWS WILL LAWYERS WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND THAT MEANS HIGH LEVELS OF CLEARANCES AND THAT WILL TAKE TIME.

MOTIONS WILL FILE TO SUPPRESS THE SEARCH WARRANT AND THIS TRIAL ISN'T GOING TO HAPPEN QUICKLY AND MAY NOT HAPPEN AT ALL IF THERE'S A PARDON.

>> Ted: OK, GIVES US A VAGUE, GENERAL TIME FRAME OF WHEN THIS THING COULD GET STARTED.

>> WHITE COLLAR CASES SUCH AS THIS IF THEY ARE TRIED WITHIN A YEAR ARE MOVING AT LIGHT SPEED.

>> Ted: INTERESTING.

>> THIS COULD LIKELY GO A YEAR OR TWO.

I KNOW THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA, MIAMI, AS LAWYERS LIKE TO SAY, THE VENUE, AS HAS A ROCKET CONTACTROCKETDOCTOR TO MOVE IT QUICKLY.

THE JUDGE, ILENE CANNON, SEEMED TO SHOW, SOME SAY, SOME FAVORTISM TO PRESIDENT TRUMP AND DECIDE HE IS ENTITLED TO CAMPAIGN AND SHOULD HAVE TIME TO DO THAT WHILE HE DEFENDS ON THIS CASE.

REMEMBER, TOO, TED, THIS ISN'T THE ONLY CASE FACING CRIMINAL CHARGES, HE HAS TO DEFEND HIMSELF IN MANHATTAN, AS WELL.

SO GOOD LAWYERS FOR FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, IF HE WAS FIND THOSE LAWYERS, WILL SAY TO THE JUDGE, YOU NEED TO GIVE OUR CLIENT MORE TIME TO PREPARE FOR THIS TRIAL.

>> Ted: AS FAR AS PROSECUTION IS CONCERNED -- LET'S SAY IT'S A YEAR FROM NOW, IT'S AT TRIAL, WHAT DO THEY NEED TO PROVE AND HOW DO THEY NEED PROVE IT?

>> BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT, THE HIGHEST STANDARD OF PROOF IN THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM AND SYSTEM OF JUSTICE AT ALL AND TO A UNANIMOUS VERDICT.

EVERY SINGER JUROR HAS TO AGREE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS GUILTY.

AS A POLICY MANNER, THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE REQUIRES THAT PROSECUTORS CONSIDER THE FACT AND SAY THAT THEY HAVE THE HIGH LIKELIHOOD OF SUCCESS AT TRIAL, NOT JUST PROOF BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT BUT WE'RE GOING TO WIN THIS CASE.

THAT KIND OF CONFIDENCE IS EXHIBITED BECAUSE THESE PROSECUTORS HAVE SAID, WE WON'T TRY THIS CASE IN A D.C. VENUE WHERE THEY COULD HAVE DONE SO, BUT MOST TAKE PLACE IN MIAMI, SOUTHERN FLORIDA AND LET'S TRY IT THERE AND THERE'S A RISK.

THEY DREW THIS JUDGE WHICH MAY BE MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE PROSECUTION AND THEY HAVE A PERSPECTIVE JUROR BASE THAT MAY BE MORE INCLINED TO FAVOR PRESIDENT TRUMP THAN, SAY, PERSPECTIVE JURORS IN THE DISTRICT OF COLOMBIA.

>> Ted: WE SAW THE INDICTMENT AND IT WAS LIKE EASY SUMMER READING COMPARED TO MOST INDICTMENTS.

IT WAS A WALKING INDICTMENT, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

IT WAS RELATIVELY EASY TO UNDERSTAND.

CONSIDERING THIS CASE, CONSIDERING THE DEFENDANT, IS THAT SOMETHING PROSECUTORS WILL LOOK TO DO, SIMPLIFY THIS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE?

>> THAT INDICTMENT IS ONE OF THE MOST ARTFULLY DRAFTED INDICTMENTS I HAVE SEEN.

IT'S THE PROFESSIONALISM OF THE MEN AND WOMEN BEHIND THIS PROSECUTION AND TELLS A STORY, TED.

YOU WOULD APPRECIATE THAT AND THERE IS A BEGINNING.

PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYING, LOOK, I KNOW,S HE'S, THE MAINTAINING OF THE SECRET IS IMPORTANT AND A MIDDLE WHERE HE'S GIVEN HIGHLY CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND AN END WHERE HE IS HIDING FROM THE GOVERNMENT, THE NATIONAL SECURITY DOCUMENTS WHICH HE HAS BEEN COMPELLED TO RETURN AND A GOOD NARRATIVE AND THE KIND OF THING YOU WOULD EXPECT IF YOU WERE A JUROR AND LISTENING TO PROSECUTORS TELL YOU THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CASE.

>> Ted: WHICH HAS TO BE DONE.

LAST QUESTION, FORMER BILL BARR SAYS THAT EVEN HALF IF WHAT IS LAID OUT ON THESE CHARGES IS TRUE, EVEN HALF, TRUMP IS TOAST.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT STATEMENT?

>> REMEMBER THAT FORMER ATTORNEY GENERAL BILL BARR IS CONSIDERED AN APOLOGIST SO TO HEAR HIM SAY THAT SHOULD BE GIVEN SOME WEIGHT.

HE IS CORRECT, SHOULD FORMER PRESIDENT BE CONVICTED, ANY OF THEM, THE PERSPECTIVE SENTENCE WOULD BE SIGNIFICANT AND REAL PRISON IS SOMETHING ELSE TO CONSIDER.

>> Ted: IT'S LIKE 20, 30 YEARS.

>> THE JUDGE IS CANNON AND COULD BE HIS PRISON LOOKS LIKE A HOUSE IN MAR-A-LAGO.

>> Ted: GREAT CONVERSATION AND THANKS FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> Ted: UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, THE LACK OF DIVERSITY IN REAL ESTATE OWNERSHIP.

>> SOCIAL INEQUITIES IN GREAT PART TO PAST LAWS THAT PREVENTED MINORITIES FROM OWNING LAND AND THE MAKEUP OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE PROFOUND AND WE HAVE THE CAR CAREY SCHOOL OF BUSINESS AND GOOD TO HAVE YOU AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

HOPE, WE'LL START WITH YOU.

THIS TURNS OUT TO BE A QUESTION, DOESN'T IT, AS TO WHO DECIDES WHAT NEIGHBORHOODS LOOK LIKE?

>> IT DOES AND THE ANSWER IS COMPLICATED, RIGHT?

IN THE PAST, MANY GROUPS WHO WERE CAST OUT OF THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS AND THAT WAS BY LAW, RIGHT?

IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE WERE FEDERAL AND MUNICIPAL LAWS THAT PREVENTED PRIMARILY PEOPLE OF COLOR FROM PARTICIPATING IN THE PROCESS AND FROM BEING HOMEOWNERS AND GETTING MORTGAGES, AND PARTICIPATING IN COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE.

TODAY IT'S A BIT DIFFERENT, BUT THE VESTIGES REMAIN.

>> Ted: IT'S DIFFERENT TODAY BUT THERE'S A GENERATIONAL THING GOING ON, CORRECT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

IT'S DIFFICULT TO CATCH UP, PARTICULARLY WHEN THE COMMUNITIES HAVEN'T CHANGED MUCH FROM THE TIMES THERE WAS LAWFUL RACIAL SEGREGATION.

>> Ted: MARK, THE DEVELOPERS, BROKERS, AGENTS, INVESTORS, OWNERS, AND FOR MOST OF AMERICAN HISTORY, VAST MAJORITY HAVE BEEN WHITE.

>> YES.

NOT JUST THE VAST MAJORITY.

I WOULD SAY CLOSE TO ALL IN SOME CASES.

I MEAN, WE THINK ABOUT REAL ESTATE AS EITHER I OWN A HOUSE OR AN INVESTMENT AND IT'S THE NEXUS BETWEEN BUSINESS AND SOCIETY AND THE THE PHYSICAL MANIFESTATION OF A COMMUNITY AND WHEN YOU'RE LEFT OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, YOU DON'T HAVE THE CONTROL YOU WOULD HAVE AND YOU DON'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY AND YOU LACK THE INTERGENERATIONAL WEALTH TRANSFER AND ALL OPPORTUNITIES.

SO HOME OWNERSHIP, 44% OF BLACK AMERICANS OWN THEIR HOME COMPARED TO 72% OF WHITE AND 65% OVERALL POPULATION.

THAT IS JUST ONE STATISTICS.

IF YOU LOOK AT COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE AND THE OWNERSHIP WHERE A LOT OF WEALTH IS GENERATED, IT'S PROFOUND.

>> Ted: HOW DO WE ADDRESS THIS THAT LAST I CHECKED, LIKE MANY FIELDS RIGHT NOW, OVERWHELMINGLY WHITE?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS IS TO EDUCATE THE NEXT GENERATION AND ONE OF THE WONDERFUL PROGRAMS AT ASU IS DOING JUST THAT AND BEING DIRECT ABOUT WHOM WE'RE EDUCATING.

THERE'S A WONDERFUL PARTNERSHIP AND SO STUDENTS WHO ARE ALREADY COLLEGE STUDENTS AND WHO MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE EXPOSURE TO REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONS NOW RECEIVE THAT THROUGH THE ASU PARTNERSHIP.

>> Ted: TALK US TO ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THAT IS IN TERMS OF JUST TRAINING AND GETTING FOLKS OUT THERE AND ON THE JOB.

>> YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT SOMETHING, YOU DON'T IT'S AN OPTION.

IF YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S A PROFESSION AND WELL, MY AUNT IS MAYBE A REALTOR AND IT'S NOT PART OF YOUR DAILY DIALOGUE, YOU DON'T KNOW.

AND GRAMBLING HAD NO REAL ESTATE EDUCATION AND THERE WAS NO PROGRAM OR EDUCATION.

AND ONE OF OUR GRADUATES FROM OUR MASTERS PROGRAM, MURPHY CHEETHAM, I'VE BEEN HIS MENTOR FOR 16 YEARS AND HE AND I GOT TO TALKING ABOUT THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE EDUCATION, YOU DON'T ENVIRONMENT EDUCATION, KNOWLEDGE OR LANGUAGE, YOU CAN'T PARTICIPATE.

AND SO IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE EDUCATE YOUNG PEOPLE TO KNOW IT'S NOT ONLY AN OPTION BUT HOW THEY CAN PARTICIPATE.

>> Ted: HOW THEY CAN PARTICIPATE AND BUILD RELATIONSHIPS, RELATIONSHIPS THAT, AGAIN, FOR THE WHITE COMMUNITY HAVE BEEN FROM FOUR GENERATIONS, BUT FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY, IF NO HBCU'S HAVE REAL ESTATE PROGRAMS, HOW DO GET THOSE RELATIONSHIPS GOING?

>> REAL ESTATE IS HIGHLY NETWORKED INDUSTRY, FOR SURE AND PARTNERSHIPS BETWEEN WHITE REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS AND INDIVIDUALS OF COLOR IS JUST THE BEGINNING.

WE WANT TO SEE MORE OF THAT AND IT WILL BE NECESSARY TO SEE MORE OF THAT.

AND HAVING STUDENTS BEING EDUCATED RIGHT NOW WHILE THERE'S STILL TIME FOR THE APPRENTICESHIP BEFORE RETIRE IS VERY CRITICAL.

>> Ted: WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE TO ADDRESS THIS SITUATION?

>> WE'VE GOT TO BE MORE AWARE AND NOT THOSE OF US OF COLOR, RIGHT?

HOUROUR WHITE AMERICANS NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY AND READ UP ON IT.

THERE'S THE COLOR OF LAW FROM 2017 THAT BREAKS DOWN THE LEGAL HISTORY THAT STILL HAS REMNANTS TODAY AND THERE'S A SEQUEL CALLED "JUST ACTION" THAT HE WROTE WITH HIS DAUGHTER, LEAH, TAKING THE STEP FORWARD.

WE HAVE TO EDUCATE OURSELVES AND TALK TO ONE ANOTHER AND GET INVOLVED IN THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND UNDERSTAND HOW THESE DECISIONS ARE MADE AND SPEAK UP.

>> Ted: HBCU, LEARNING, GETTING THIS EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY AND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITY FOR WHITE STUDENTS.

WHAT'S OUT THERE?

>> THERE'S A VAST ARRAY AROUND REALESTATE.

>> Ted: BUT FOR THIS ISSUE.

>> BUT IT'S A CRITICAL ELEMENT OF THE BUSINESS.

WE'VE MADE THAT A DEFINITIVE OBJECTIVE OF THE UNIVERSITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HELP OVERCOME THOSE PROBLEMS.

>> Ted: THE PHOENIX LIBRARY IS CELEBRATING 125 YEARS.

THAT'S A LONG AND RICH HISTORY OF SERVICE THAT BEGAN WITH A COUPLE OF ROOMS IN AN OFFICE BUILDING DOWNTOWN.

JOINING US KNOW IS THE PHOENIX LIBRARY'S RELATION'S MANAGER AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: I JUST MENTIONED HOW IT STARTED AND YOU GIVE ME A BETTER DEFINITION OF HOW THE PHOENIX LIBRARY BEGAN.

>> THE CITY OF PHOENIX IS INCORPORATED IN THE MID1890'S AND A GROUP OF WOMEN, ABOUT 14, WHO CALLED THEMSELVES THE FRIDAY CLUB, WHICH APPARENTLY WAS QUITE A MOVEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY AT THAT TIME, A WOMEN'S CLUB, DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO GATHER ON A REGULAR BASIS TO STUDY HISTORY.

AND FROM THAT CAME AN INSPIRATION TO CREATE A PUBLIC LIBRARY AND PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY WAS PUT IN ON JUNE 28, 1928.

>> Ted: THEN WE GOT A CARNEGIE LIBRARY?

>> YES, ANDREW CARN CARNEGIE LIBRARY.

>> Ted: FROM 1908 TO 1952?

>> YES, AND IT SERVED THE COMMUNITY UNTIL THE EARLY '50s WHEN CENTRAL LIBRARY WAS OPEN.

>> Ted: WHY DID THEY MOVE IT THERE AND TALKING ABOUT GETTING THAT DONE.

I BELIEVE THAT WAS ALSO -- I MEAN, IT WAS SUPPORTED BY THE MUNICIPALITY AND THE RESIDENTS AND EXPANDED.

IT NEEDED TO BE BIGGER AND HAVE BETTER ACCESS, BETTER INGRESS AND EGRESS AND AS THE CITY EXPANDED, IT WAS MORE CENTRAL PHOENIX.

>> Ted: THE HERD FAMILY, WERE THEY INVOLVED DONATEING ANY LAND?

>> YES, TO PUT THAT THERE.

>> Ted: GREAT SHOTS OF THE OLD CENTRAL LIBRARY.

AND THEN HERE COMES THE BURTON BARR LIBRARY.

>> I'LL DATE MYSELF AND I REMEMBER, BECAUSE I WAS THAT LIBRARY DID NOT EXIST.

I REMEMBER THAT.

>> Ted: BECAUSE OF THE DESIGN, THEY SAID IT LOOKED LIKE A TOASTER?

>> YES, FONDLY REFERRED TO AS A TOASTER AND THE DESIGN BY WILL BRUTER ARCHITECT AND A SIGNIFICANT DATE ON JUNE 21st JUNE 21st AND MANY OF THE ARCHITECTUREAL ELEMENTS.

>> Ted: THE SHADOWS ALIGN AND ALL OF THAT.

>> YES, A LOT OF LIGHT FEATURES AND ELEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE BUILDING AT THEIR MOST PROMINENT ON THE SOLAR SOLSTICE.

>> Ted: TWO ROOMS AND UPSTAIRS BUILDING TO THE BURTON BARR LIBRARY AND BEYOND AND HOW HAS THE LIBRARY HANDLED THE AGE OF THE INTERNET?

>> LIKE A CHAMP.

WE HAVE 17 TOTAL LOCATIONS AND IN ALL LOCATIONS, WE OFFER FOR MANY MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY, THEIR ACCESS TO THE INTERNET AND COMPUTERS.

WHAT IS THE SAME TODAY AS IN 1898 IS THAT PEOPLE CAN TURN TO THE LIBRARY TO FIND ANSWERS TO WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY'RE SEEKING AND KNOW THAT THEY HAVE -- IT'S FOR EVERYBODY.

THEY CAN COME IN AND FIND INFORMATION THAT THEY KNOW IS VETTED AND TRUSTWORTHY.

SO WE JUST ADAPTED AND DELIVERED THAT THROUGH VARIOUS VEHICLES AS THEY PRESENTED THEMSELVES THROUGHOUT THE LAST 125 YEARS.

SO TECHNOLOGY LIKE THE INTERNET AND COMPUTERS AS IT BECAME ADAPTED AND ADOPTED, WE SAID, OK, WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE OUR LIBRARY SERVICES THROUGH THAT PLATFORM, AS WELL.

>> Ted: NO MORE CARD CATALOGS, I TAKE IT?

>> NO.

I WOULD LOVE TO FIND AN ACTUAL OLD CARD CATALOG BECAUSE THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL PIECES OF FURNITURE AND WE HAVE SEVERAL THAT WE HAVE REPURPOSED AND ALL DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET YOUR HANDS ON WHAT IT IS WE'RE OFFERING THE COMMUNITY.

>> Ted: THE FUTURE OF THE PHOENIX LIBRARY, WHAT DO WE SEE IN.

>> STILL RELEVANT AND STILL RESPONSIVE AND STILL REFLECTIVE OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

WE ARE GROWING AND ANTICIPATING THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND AND BRING MORE STUFF TO MORE PEOPLE.

OUR CIRCULATION IS CLOSE TO BEING BACK TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE THE PANDEMIC AND WE TOOK A PAUSE ON SOME THINGS AND TOOK A DIP IN HOW WE ARE ACCESSIBLE TO PEOPLE LIKE EVERYBODY AND SEEING A LOT OF THAT COME BACK AND I WOULD INVITE EVERYBODY TO COME DOWN AND VISIT US ON JUNE 21st AT NOON FOR THE FIRST TIME AFTER THREE YEARS.

AND WE'LL BE DOING OUR SOLSTICE EVENT.

GET YOUR LIBRARY CARD.

[ Laughter ] >> Ted: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> Ted: I'M TED SIMONS AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.