>> PRESENTATION OF I'DO REPORTS ON I'DO PUBLIC TELEVISION IS MADE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE GENEROUS SUPPORT OF THE LAURA MOORE FOUNDATION.

TO BENEFIT THE LEGACY OF BUILDING THE GREAT STATE OF IDAHO.

BY THE FRIENDS OF IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION AND BY THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC BROADCASTING.

>> THIS WEEK WE SIT DOWN WITH DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES RUNNING FOR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS 1 AND 2 WHO DIDN'T HAVE A CHANCE TO DEBATE AFTER INCUMBENT REPRESENTATIVES DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE.

I'M RUTH BROWN FILLING IN FOR MELISSA DAVLIN.

IDAHO REPORTS STARTS NOW.

♪ ♪ >> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE NEW SEASON OF IDAHO REPORTS.

THIS WEEK WE SIT DOWN WITH CAYLEE PETERSON, A DURING THAT TIME CHALLENGING INCUMBENT REPRESENTATIVE RUSS FULL WHICH ARE IN THE -- FULCHER AND WENDY NORMAN REPRESENTING MIKE SIMPSON IN THE SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT.

BOTH NORMAN AND PETERSON DID NOT HAVE A CHANCE TO DEBATE BECAUSE THE INCUMBENT CANDIDATES DECLINED TO PARTICIPATE IN THE IDAHO DEBATES.

WE'LL HEAR MORE FROM THEM LATER ON IN THE SHOW.

IN COMING WEEKS KEEP AN EYE FOR OTHER STATEWIDE CANDIDATES BOTH REPUBLICAN AND INDEPENDENT THEY WERE ENABLED TO DEBATE BECAUSE THEIR INCUMBENTS DECLINED TO DEBATE.

BUT FIRST IN THIS WEEK'S PODCAST EPISODE ASSOCIATE PRODUCER LOGAN FINNEY IS JOINED BY LAW PROFESSOR STEVEN MILLER FROM THE UNIVERSITY OF IDAHO TO DISCUSS A PENDING CASE BEFORE THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WHICH WILL DECIDE HOW MUCH WATER IS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE EPA.

YOU'LL FIND THAT CONVERSATION WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS.

NOW BACK TO THOSE CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES.

WE'LL START WITH MELISSA DAVLIN'S CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS WEEK WITH CAYLEE PETER.

>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS WEEK.

FIRST OF ALL, WHY ARE YOU RUNNING FOR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1?

>> I THINK FOR ME WHEN I STARTED SCHOOL, THE PLAN WAS TO GO INTO PUBLIC POLICY AND POLICY REFORM.

BUT THEN IN THIS ELECTION SPECIFICALLY I FOUND OUT WE HAD HUNDREDS OF SEATTLE THAT WERE RUNNING UNOPPOSED AND FOR ME -- >> YOU AS THE IDAHO DEMOCRATIC PARTY?

>> YES.

THERE'S NO CHOICE OR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR PEOPLE ALREADY IN OFFICE.

SO RUNNING IN THIS ELECTION MENTALITY GIVING THE PEOPLE OF IDAHO A VOICE, A CHOICE AND MAKING CURRENT REPRESENTATIVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR ACTIONS IN CONGRESS.

>> WHY CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1 AS OPPOSED TO A LEGISLATIVE SEAT OR COLLEGE MUCH WESTERN IDAHO TRUSTEE OR ONE OF THE MANY OTHER OFFICES THAT WERE ON THE BALLOT THIS.

>> THAT'S A FAIR QUESTION I CAN'T EXPECT AS A CANDIDATE WITHOUT THIS QUESTION AND FOR ME I'M IN DISTRICT 13 WHICH HAS SOME PHENOMENAL FEMALE CANDIDATES AT THE STATE LET ME.

BUT WE HAD NO ONE AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL AND MY OPPONENT RUSS FULCHER NEEDED SOMEBODY TO HOLD HIM ACCOUNTABLE OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.

>> AND WE'LL GET TO THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE RUNNING ON IN A SECOND BUT YOU BRING UP THE FACT THAT YOU ARE A FRESHMAN CANDIDATE.

YOU ARE NEW TO THE IDAHO PRELIMINARY SCENE.

INCUMBENT RUSS FULCHER AND HE'S IN HIS THIRD TERM WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOU WITH THIS OFFICE.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS WE'VE LEARNED IS THAT EXPERIENCE DOES NOT EQUAL QUALIFICATIONS OR INTEGRITY.

AND RUSS FULCHER HAS PROVEN EVEN THOUGH HE HAS TWO DECADES OF EXPERIENCE, HE IS NOT ULTIMATELY DELIVERING ON THE PROMISES THAT HE'S MADE TO IDAHO PEOPLE, AND WHAT I HEAR IS WHO IS RUSS FULCHER AND WHERE IS RUSS FULCHER?

SO THAT 20 YEARS HAS NOT TAUGHT HOW TO GET INVOLVED AND HOW TO LIVEN AND HOW TO REPRESENT WHILE HE'S IN DC.

>> WHAT ARE THE ISSUES THAT ARE AT THE TOP OF YOUR PRIORITY LIST?

>> I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST WE CAN'T ACCOMPLISH ANYTHING IF WE DON'T RESTORE SOME OF THE TRUST IN GOVERNMENT THAT WE SHOULD COME TO EXPECT.

I MEAN GOVERNMENT IS SUPPOSED TO HOLD ALL OF THE POTENTIAL THAT WE HAVE AS A POPULATION TOWARDS A BRIGHTER FUTURE, A STRONGER FUTURE, AND RIGHT NOW PEOPLE FEEL DISCONNECTED.

THEY DON'T TRUST THE PEOPLE IN OFFICE.

THEY DON'T TRUST POLICY.

THEY DON'T TRUST THE POLITICAL PROCESS SO BY RESTORING INTEGRITY AND TRUTH AND TRANSPARENCY TO OFFICE, THEN WE CAN START TO DELIVER ON SOME OF THE PROMISES.

THAT MEANS PUBLIC LAND IN CONSERVATION.

THAT MEANS HEALTHCARE BOTH MENTAL, PHYSICAL AND VETERANS BENEFITS.

THAT MEANS TAX REFORM SO THAT WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THE BURDENS OFF OUR MIDDLE CLASS, WORKING CLASS BLUE COLOR IDAHO CITIZENS SO THOSE ARE HUGE PRIORITIES FOR ME.

>> RIGHT NOW DEMOCRATS, OF COURSE, CONTROL THE HOUSE AND VERY NARROWLY THE SENATE SOMEWHAS WELLE AS THE WHITE HOUSE.

WHAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF YOU GET ELECTED WHEN IT COMES TO ISSUES THAT ARE FACING IDAHOANS IN AMERICA WITH INFLATION AND RISING GAS PRICES.

>> IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE MY OPPONENT USES THESE TERMS A LOT AS EVIDENCE OF FAILURE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION.

BUT WHAT WE SEE INFLATION AND GAS PRICES ARE A GLOBAL ISSUE.

THEY'RE ON THE RISE ACROSS THE ENTIRE GLOBE, NOT JUST AMERICA.

WHAT WE NEED ARE REPRESENTATIVES TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND WORK ACROSS THE AISLE TO TRY AND MITIGATE SOME OF THESE ISSUES.

FOR INSTANCE, THE PRICE-GOUGING BILL THAT TRIED TO PREVENT GAS STATIONS FROM HIKING UP PRICES EVEN IF THE COST OF OIL WAS GOING DOWN.

MY OPPONENT VOTED AGAINST THAT.

HE'S UNWILLING TO SIT AT THE TABLE TO FIND SOLUTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO A DURING THAT TIME IN OFFICE AND -- DEMOCRAT IN OFFICE AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE.

>> NOW, YOU HAVE ALSO MENTIONED PUBLIC LAND MANAGEMENT.

WHAT IS YOUR APPROACH ESPECIALLY AS WE'RE SEEING MORE DEVASTATING FIRE SEASONS, EARLIER FIRE SEASONS AND LONGER FIRE SEASONS?

>> WE HAVE SOME OF THE GREATEST RESEARCH COMING IN RIGHT NOW HOW TO MITIGATE DROUGHT AND HOW TO PROTECT OUR WATER SHE GETS AND PROTECT OUR FORESTS.

THAT COMES DOWN TO PROPERLY FUNDING THESE PROGRAMS.

U.S.

FISH AND GAME, WILDLIFE.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE FEDERAL FUNDING IN PLACE IS ENOUGH TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY AND THAT ALSO MEANS HOW WE REIMBURSE COUNTIES IN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

SOME COUNTIES RIGHT NOW RECEIVE A LOT MORE THAN OTHER COUNTIES IN THE STATE THAT HAVE MORE PROPERTY SO I THINK IT'S LOOKING AT WHERE FUNDING IS GOING AND TRYING TO FIND PROGRAMS THAT CAN PROPERLY FUND THE FOREST MANAGEMENT WE NEED.

>> MONEY IS ONE THING BUT THEN WHAT YOU DO WITH THE MONEY IS ANOTHER AND SO HOW WOULD YOU HOPE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THESE AGENCIES APPROACH THAT LAND MANAGEMENT TO DO THINGS LIKE REDUCE THE FUEL LOAD?

>> YOU KNOW, I THINK RIGHT NOW WE LOOK AT WHAT RUSS FULCHER HAS DONE AND HE'S TRYING TO REFUSE ALL FEDERAL FUNDING.

HIS BIG APPROACH IS TRYING TO RETURN LAND TO STATE LANDS AND DEREGULATE INDUSTRIES THAT ARE ALREADY ON FEDERAL LANDS, AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN THAT'S A COMPLETE FAILURE WHEN IT COMES TO CONSERVATION AND PUBLIC LAND MANAGEMENT.

1, BECAUSE THE STATE HAS A RESPONSIBILITY TO USE THAT LAND FOR A CERTAIN PROFITABILITY FACTOR AND WHAT WE SEE WHEN RUSS FULCHER WAS IN THE STATE LEGISLATOR WE SOLD OFF 150,000 ACRES OF PUBLIC LANDS.

WHAT WE REALLY NEED TO DO IS FOCUS ON THE PROGRAMS WE ALREADY HAVE AND WE HAVE SOME FANTASTIC ONES.

PITTMAN ROBERTSON IS AN 85-YEAR-OLD CONSERVATION PROGRAM THAT RUSS FULCHER RECENTLY TRIED TO DISMANTLE THAT USES MONEY FROM SUPPORTSMAN PROGRAMS AND GUNS, AMO AND -- AMMO AND BOWS AND PUTS IT BACK INTO CONSERVATION AND PUTTING IT INTO PROGRAMS THAT ARE ALREADY SUCCESSFUL AND USE FEDERAL FUNDING APPROPRIATELY.

>> IN CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2 MIKE SIMPSON HAS INTRODUCED A CONCEPT TO BREACH THE SNAKE RIVER DAMS TO HELP SAVE THE SALMON AND ADDRESS SOME OF THE OTHER WATER NEEDS THAT WOULD BE AFFECTED WITH THE BREACHING.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT NOT ONLY CONGRESSMAN FULCHER OPPOSES BUT SEVERAL OTHER LAWMAKERS BOTH DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN, WHERE ARE YOU ON BREACHING THE DAMS?

>> IT WAS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT I DID NOT EXPECT TO PROBABLY WOULD BE ONE OF THE MOST DWI ISSUES WHEN I DECIDED TO RUN FOR OFFICE BUT IT IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT TO SO MANY DIFFERENT COMMUNITIES FOR SO MANY DIFFERENT REASONS.

FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN FROM THE PROPOSAL THAT MIKE SIMPSON HAS PUT FORWARD.

THERE'S SEVERAL SOLUTIONS OF ISSUES THAT WORRY COMMUNITIES LIKE LEWISTON AND WORRY COMMUNITIES LIKE THE SMALL AGRICULTURE BUSINESSES THAT RELY ON THEM.

BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE SEE RUSS FULCHER IS NOT EVEN WILLING TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE.

SO WHEREAS, THE FIRST CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT SHOULD HAVE SOMEONE REPRESENTING THEIR INTERESTS AND MAKING SURE THAT THEIR SOLUTIONS TO ALL OF THESE ISSUES FACING THESE REAL EVERY DAY IDAHOANS WE HAVE OREGON AND WASHINGTON WHO RIGHT NOW ARE AT THE TABLE MAKING DECISIONS FOR COMMUNITIES LIKE LEWISTON SO WHETHER WE'RE FOR OR AGAINST BREACHING THE DAMS WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO'S WILLING TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND REPRESENT THE INTERESTS FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE IMPACTS THAT ARE COMING FOR THEM.

>> ONE OF THE OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU MENTIONED ON YOUR CAMPAIGN SITE IS REPRODUCTIVE CHOICE AND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 1 IS VERY CONSERVATIVE AS YOU KNOW.

HOW DO YOU SQUARE YOUR POSITION AS TO WHAT CD1 WANTS?

>> IT'S DIFFICULT BECAUSE I THINK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A VERY VOCAL MINORITY.

I MEAN, POLLING WE SEE 70% MINIMUM 70% OF PEOPLE DO NOT SUPPORT THE EXTENT AT WHICH IDAHO'S TRIGGER LAW HAS GONE AND WE SEE THAT WOMEN ACROSS THE STREET DISTRICT NEED AUTONOMY AND CHOICE AND I DON'T THINK IT'S A MATTER MUCH ME AGAINST THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

I THINK IT'S ME REPRESENTING A SILENT MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT WANT BALANCE.

EVEN IF THEY'RE NOT ENTIRELY PRO-CHOICE AND BELIEVE IN COMPLETE LACK OF RESTRICTIONS, THEY CERTAINLY DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXTREMES THAT MY OPPONENT HAS GONE TO THAT PUTS ACTUAL LIVES AT RISK.

>> ASSUMING IDAHO'S DELEGATION ON LEADERSHIP STAYS MOSTLY REPUBLICAN, IF YOU'RE ELECTED, HOW DO YOU PLAN TO WORK WITH THEM WITH IDAHOANS AND CD1.

>> PEOPLE PUT SO MUCH WEIGHT INTO A SINGLE WORD OR A SINGLE LETTER NEXT TO A NAME DEMOCRAT OR REPUBLICAN WHEN THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SO MUCH MORE COMPLEX AND THEIR POLICY IS SO MUCH MORE INTRICATE THAN JUST A SINGLE WORD.

FOR ME IT'S JUST ABOUT RELATIONSHIP LOOKING AT THE POLICY AND FINDING SOLUTIONS THE SAME WAY WE WOULD FIND SOLUTIONS ON ANY POLICY MATTER SO IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY'RE REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT.

MY GOAL IS TO REPRESENT EVERY SINGLE IDAHO CITIZEN NO MATTER THE LETTER NEXT TO THEIR NAME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

>> NOW, I'M JOINED BY WENDY NORMAN WHO'S RUNNING FOR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 2.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING ME.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME HERE.

>> WENDY WE'LL START FOR THE BASICS.

WHY ARE YOU RUBBNNING FOR CONGRESS?

>> IT'S A LONG STORY BUT A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING.

I WAS INVITED TO RUN SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND AT THE TIME I WAS REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE MAN WHO HAD CHALLENGED MIKE SIMPSON IN THE PRIMARY.

I HAVE A SISTER WHO PASSED AWAY ON CHRISTMAS DAY 3 YEARS AGO AND BEFORE -- SHE'D BEEN SICK.

MY MOM WANTED HER TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL AND SHE SAID: I CAN'T AFFORD IT AND THE MAN WHO WAS RUNNING AGAINST MIKE SIMPSON WAS THERE AND HE HAD MADE HIS LIVELIHOOD SUING PEOPLE FOR MEDICAL DEBT AND I COULD NOT LIVE WITH THE IDEA OF HIM BEING OUR LEGISLATOR.

SO I JUMPED IN AND I SAID, YEP, I WILL DO IT AND THEN THANKFULLY HE DIDN'T WIN THE PRIMARY BUT I HAVE SOME STRONG BELIEF THAT IDAHO NEEDS CHOICES.

WE NEED CHOICES.

A ONE-PARTY STATE IS NEVER A GOOD THING AND THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT FULCHER IS DOING OR NOT DOING AND I THINK NEEDS TO CHANGE AND I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR ALL IDAHOANS, NOT JUST THE FEW.

>> MIKE SIMPSON IS SERVING IN HIS THIRD TERM.

YOU HAVE NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE WHY SHE HAD VOTERS TRUST YOU WITH THIS OFFICE?

>> BECAUSE I AM JUST A PERSON.

I HAVE NOT MADE MY LIFE OUT TO BE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO IN CHARGE.

I HAVE LIVED MY LIFE AS A MOM, AS A TEACHER AS SOMEBODY WHO WANTS MAKE TE WORLD A BETTER PLACE IN SMALLER WAYS, YOU KNOW?

AND NOW AS I'VE JUST BEEN WATCHING WHAT'S GONE ON OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS IT'S REALLY SCARY.

WE HAVE CONTROLS COMING INTO PLAY THAT ARE DAMAGING THE LIVELIHOOD AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR MOST AMERICANS AND WE NEED REAL AMERICANS TO STEP UP AND PEOPLE WON'T.

IT'S SCARY PEOPLE ARE -- IT'S CRUELTY -- THE CRITICISMS THAT YOU GET.

I DON'T BLAME PEOPLE RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

WE NEED CHOICES AND IT CAN'T JUST BE HANDED OVER TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE FUNDING FROM THE CORPORATIONS AND SPECIAL SUPERVISE.

SO THAT'S ME.

I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE SMALL DONATIONS AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE AND THEY BELIEVE ME AND I'LL DO MY BEST TO REPRESENT THEM.

>> YOU MENTIONED LIVELIHOODS, ON YOUR CAMPAIGN WEBSITE YOU TALK ABOUT INFLATION AS ONE OF YOUR TOP PRIORITIES.

WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ADDRESS INFLATION IF ELECTED?

>> I LIKE A LOT WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON ALREADY.

WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY.

WE'RE TRYING TO -- THERE'S JUST SO MANY ISSUES.

I MEAN, CLIMATE CHANGE IS SUCH A LARGE ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO CAUSE SO MUCH DAMAGE AND YET WE DEPEND SO MUCH ON OIL AND GAS AND WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT SO THAT WE COULD FUNCTION WITHOUT THE THING DAMAGE IN -- TO OUR CLIMATE, AND SO I HONESTLY THINK BIDAN HAS BEEN ON TRACK FOR THAT.

GAS AND OIL RIGHT NOW IS GOING TO HURT.

IT REALLY IS BUT WE HAVE TO CONTINUE ON.

THE MAJORITY OF WHAT'S CAUSING OUR INFLATION RIGHT NOW IS STILL SUPPLY CHAINS.

MY HUSBAND'S EMPLOYMENT SITUATION IS THE SAME.

THERE ARE STILL MATERIALS THAT THEY CANNOT GET BECAUSE OF SUPPLY CHAIN ISSUES, AND SO FIXING THAT IS ESSENTIAL.

BRINGING IN PEOPLE WHO CAN DO THE WORK THAT WE NEED DONE.

WE'VE GOT SO MANY JOBS THAT ARE LEFT UNFILLED AND SO WE NEED TO, AGAIN, MAKE SURE PEOPLE CAN COME HERE AND DO THE JOBS THAT AMERICANS NEED DONE TO BE ABLE TO MAKE SURE OUR COUNTRY CAN KEEP FUNCTIONING SO >> DEMOCRATS DO CURRENTLY HOLD THE MAJORITY.

HOW WOULD THE SITUATION WOULD BE DIFFERENT IF YOU WERE IN OFFICE?

>> WE HOLD MAJORITY BUT WE DON'T HOLD MAJORITY -- A COMPLETE MAJORITY IN THE SENATE BECAUSE WE HAVE A COUPLE OF MIDDLE OF THE ROAD SENATORS AND BECAUSE OF THE FILIBUSTER, WE CAN'T GET A LOT OF THINGS THROUGH THAT DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO.

THE BIGGEST THING I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF WE GET A REPUBLICAN MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES ALL PROGRESS IS GOING TO BE STOPPED.

AND THAT'S NOT A GOOD THING EITHER.

I WATCH AND SEE WHAT MIKE SIMPSON HAS SUGGESTED THAT HE WANTS TO DO IN THESE THINGS AND HE DOESN'T HE DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN.

HOW IS HE GOING TO ADDRESS INFLATION.

HE DOESN'T HAVE A PLAN.

HE SAYS IT'S JUST BIDEN, BIDENOMICS.

WHAT IS HE DO SINCE HE'S BEEN THERE SO LONG TO SOLVE THESE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A LONG TIME.

I WAS REALLY DISCOURAGED GOOD, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE HAD THE BABY FORMULA ISSUES AND RATHER THAN JUMPING IN AND TRYING TO FIX IT, IT'S BIDEN'S FAULT, BIDEN'S FAULT, BIDEN'S FAULT.

IT MAY BE, IT WASN'T.

[LAUGH] >> THERE WAS A WHOLE STORY BEHIND THAT BUT WE NEED LEGISLATORS TO WORK TOGETHER; QUICK THE BLAME GAME AND MAKE IT A MATTER OF NATIONAL SECURITY, NATIONAL OPPORTUNITY.

WHAT THE PEOPLE NEED US TO DO AND SO THAT'S ANOTHER THING.

I'M NOT GOING TO GO DOWN THERE AND SAY I'M ONLY TALKING TO THE DEMOCRATS.

WE NEED TO GET SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST INSULATED FROM THE OTHER PERSPECTIVES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE VIEWS OF ALL AMERICANS REPRESENTED.

I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON WITH THE HATRED.

IT'S -- I'VE HAD SOMEBODY WHO SAID TO ME THEY WANT TO KNOW WRITE TEACH SO THEY COULD MAKE SURE THEIR DIDN'T COULDN'T HAVE ME AS A TEACHER AND THAT'S NOT AMERICA.

THAT'S NOT WHAT AMERICA SHOULD BE.

>> BUT I'MGATE TO STOP YOU THERE.

IDAHO AND NATIONWIDE DOES EXTREMISM DOES CONTINUE TO EXIST IN THE POLITICAL ATMOSPHERE.

WHAT IS YOUR ROLE AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS IN WORKING WITH PEOPLE WHO MAY BE MORE EXTREME THAN YOU ARE.

YOU WOULD BE TASKED WITH THAT.

HOW DO YOU PLEAD YOU HANDLE THAT.

>> YOU KNOW, THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS I WAS THINKING OF AS WELL.

WHEN RICHARD STALLINGS WAS THERE, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO HIM WHEN I WAS MAKING A DECISION ABOUT DOING THIS AND HE SAID THAT THEY USED TO NOT EVEN -- YOU KNOW, RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT AND THEY STAY IN THEIR AREAS.

THEY'RE NOT COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I HAVE LOVED ABOUT CAMPAIGNING IS GOING OUT, MEETING PEOPLE AND FINDING OUT WHAT THEIR PERSPECTIVES ARE -- WE'RE NOT IS FAR APART AS WE THINK.

WE GOT TO TALK TO EACH OTHER AND WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION WE'RE GETTING ISN'T SO LIMITED.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I'M DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHERE WE USED TO HAVE THE -- THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE WHERE JOURNALISM WAS INTENDED TO COVER BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW.

WE HAVE MEDIA SOURCES THAT ARE PROUD TO SAY WE ARE CONSERVATIVE OR WE ARE LIBERAL AND THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR AMERICA.

TO HAVE PEOPLE ON THE LEFT AND ON THE RIGHT BE LIVING A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REALITY.

THAT'S A PROBLEM.

>> I'M GOING TO FOCUS ON POLICY A LITTLE BIT.

>> OKAY.

>> YOU HAVE RUN ON A PLATFORM FOCUSING ON AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE, AMONG OTHER ISSUES, IF ELECTED AS A MEMBER OF CONGRESS, WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO BETTER SOME OF THE RESTRAINTS AROUND AFFORDABLE HEALTHCARE OR LEGAL CARE.

HOW WOULD YOU ADDRESS THAT.

>> I REMEMBER WHEN THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WENT THROUGH A AND, AGAIN, THERE WERE PEOPLE WHO WERE TERRIFIED OF DEATH PANELS AND THERE WERE PEOPLE THAT HONESTLY WERE TOLD THINGS THAT WEREN'T TRUE.

THAT'S ALWAYS THE PROBLEM.

SO GETTING THE INFORMATION OUT IS ALWAYS IMPORTNT AND COMMUNICATING WITH PEOPLE BUT THE BIGGEST THINGS ABOUT HEALTHCARE IS WE HAVE PEOPLE MAKING MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS OFF OF HEALTHCARE THAT NEVER DO ANYTHING THAT HELP WITH HEALTHCARE.

WE HAVE AN ENTIRE CORPORATION OF MULTIMILLIONAIRES, CEOS FOR THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THAT MUCH MONEY IS LITERALLY TAKEN OUT OF OUR HEALTHCARE MONEY.

20% OF OUR ECONOMY ALMOST IS HEALTHCARE COSTS.

IS THAT SUSTAINABLE?

IS THAT SENSIBLE?

ARE PEOPLE SICK 20% OF THEIR LIVES?

THEY'RE NOT.

SO WE'VE GOT TO FIND A WAY TO BRING THAT INTO GREATER BALANCE OF WHAT PEOPLE REALLY NEED AND HONESTLY I DO THINK THAT -- I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T WANT GOVERNMENT-OWNED HEALTHCARE.

I DON'T THINK THAT IS AS SAFE BUT I DO THINK A SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM IS A WAY TO MEET THE NEEDS OF ALL AMERICANS.

I DON'T THINK ANYONE SHOULD HAVE TO WAKE UP ON CHRISTMAS MORNING AND FIND MOM -- FIND THEIR MOM NOT ALIVE ANYMORE BECAUSE SHE COULDN'T AFFORD TO GO TO THE DOCTOR.

THAT SHOULDN'T HAPPEN IN AMERICA.

NOT IN THIS COUNTRY.

>> I'M GOING TO SWITCH COURSE AGAIN ALTHOUGH I DO SINCERELY APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THE STORY OF YOUR LOVED ONE WITH ME.

VOTING RIGHTS, YOU HAVE DISCUSSED SOME OF THE THREATS TO VOTING RIGHTS.

THE REALITY IS THERE ARE PEOPLE IN CD2 THAT WILL BE THAT PERHAPS THE 2020 ELECTION WAS FRAUDULENT OR NOT FAIRLY RECORDED.

HOW WOULD YOU IMPROVE VOTER ACCESS, IMPROVE VOTER RIGHTS THE WAY YOU WANT TO WHILE ALSO RECOGNIZING AND ADDRESSING SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF CONSTITUENTS WHO MAY BE APPREHENSIVE ABOUT THE ELECTION PROCESS?

HOW DO YOU BALANCE OF THE TWO?

>> IT IS -- PLANS THE TWO.

>> IT IS A BIG ISSUE, OBVIOUSLY.

I BELIEVE -- WAS IT 60-SOMETHING % THAT BELIEVED IT WAS -- NATIONWIDE THAT BELIEVE THE ELECTION WAS FRAUDULENT.

THAT BIDEN ISN'T PRESIDENT.

BIG CONCERN AND THE TOTAL DISRESPECT THAT YOU SEE EVERYWHERE.

WE HAVE GOT TO, AGAIN, GET INFORMATION OUT IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE CAN TRUST.

WE'VE ALWAYS HAD REPRESENTATIVES AT THE POLLS.

FROM THE LEFT AND THE RIGHT.

WE NEED MAKE THAT MORE VISIBLE FOR PEOPLE SO PEOPLE CAN SAY: I WANT TO SEE THIS HAPPENING.

WE KNOW VERY WELL WHAT THE RED MIRAJ WAS IN THE ELECTION WHERE A LOT OF THE DEMOCRATS VOTED EARLY BUT THE STATES DIDN'T COUNT UNTIL AFTER THE DAY OF THE ELECTION OR THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION WHICH MADE IT LOOKS LIKE REPUBLICANS ARE WINNING, REPUBLICANS ARE WINNING AND, ALL OF A SUDDEN, HERE COMES THE DEMOCRATS AND IT FELT LIKE TO A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE TO BE DUMPING THESE VOTES.

SO I THINK HAVING THEM COUNTED AT THE SAME TIME WOULD BE A BETTER CHOICE THERE AS WELL BUT THEY NEED TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND SO I THINK HAVING THOSE REPRESENTATIVES, HAVING SOME VIDEO SURVEILLANCE SYSTEMS THAT PEOPLE CAN CHECK IN WHENEVER THEY WANT TO -- HAVING RESPONSIBLE PEOPLE SAY: I'M A POLL WORKER.

I'M YOUR NEIGHBOR AND I SAW WHAT HAPPENED HERE AND IT WAS FINE.

THIS IS THE SEQUENCE OF WHAT HAPPENED.

WE DIDN'T HAVE SUITCASES UNDER THE TABLES.

THOSE WERE THE BOXES THAT WE KEPT BALLOTS IN AND THAT'S -- CHALLENGING WHEN YOU HAVE PEOPLE TRYING TO INTENTIONALLY GET A VIEW ACROSS THAT ISN'T CORRECT.

>> HOW DOES CONGRESS HANDLE ELECTIONS OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE LEFT TO THE STATES, LOCALLY, YOU TELL ME?

>> AS MUCH WE CAN LOCAL CERTAINLY NEEDS TO HAVE THE MAJORITY CONTROL OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE PROBLEM WE HAVE IS HISTORICALLY WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH INDIVIDUAL STATES THAT DID NOT GIVE ALL THEIR CITIZENS A RIGHT TO VOTE.

THAT THEY DID EVERYTHING THEY COULD TO RESTRICT CERTAIN GROUPS OF PEOPLE FROM BEING ABLE TO VOTE SO I THINK WE DO NEED TO HAVE AN UMBRELLA POLICY FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PROTECTING THERITIS ALL AMERICANS TO VOTE.

THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT WAS SUPPOSED TO DO THAT AND LITTLE BY LITTLE IT'S BEEN CHIPPED AWAY AND WE'LL PROBABLY FIND LATER THIS SUMMER IF ANYTHING IS LEFT.

WE NEED TO GET BACK AND GET BACK IN THERE AND SAY LET'S FIX THIS AGAIN.

THAT'S REALLY WHAT WITH THEM -- WE DIDN'T MEAN ANYBODY.

WE REALLY DID MEAN WE WANT TO STOP THE RACISM.

WE WANTED TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE OF POVERTY AND GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITIES TO VOTE AS MUCH ANYONE ELSE.

I'M WORRIED ABOUT EDUCATING VOTERS GETTING PEOPLE SO THAT THEY'RE REALLY, TRULY, ACTIVELY AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

I DON'T LIKE THE IDEA OF ANYONE EVER SAYING, OH, I ALWAYS VOTE REPUBLICAN OR I ALWAYS VOTE DEMOCRAT.

WHY?

HOW ABOUT IF WE LOOK AT THOSE ISSUES AND DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS AREN'T ALWAYS THE SAME AND WHAT ARE THEY ALWAYS STANDING FOR AND HOW DO THEY FIT WITH YOUR TRUE BELIEFS OF WHAT THE WORLD SHOULD BE LIKE OR THE NATION SHOULD BE LIKE.

>> YOU MENTIONED DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS NOT BEING THE SAME.

THAT IS A COMMON TOPIC OF DISCUSSION WHEN IT COMES TO THE SNAKE RIVER DAMS.

>> UH-HUH >> AS YOU LIKELY KNOW REPRESENTATIVE SIMPSON DOES HAVE A PROPOSAL TO ADDRESS THE DAMS.

WHAT IS YOUR APPROACH TO HANDLING THE DAMS AND THE SALMON POPULATION I SEE THAT IS -- >> I HAVE LIKED A LOT OF THE OF THINGS THAT FULCHER HAS DONE IN THE -- MIKE SIMPSON HAS DONE IN THE PAST.

I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT HE'S NOT PART OF THE PROBLEMS RECENTLY.

IT HAS TO HAVE MORE BUY-IN BY THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IMPACTED BY IT BUT HONESTLY WE GOT TO SAVE THE SALMON TOO.

WE NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE NEEDS OF ALL CONSTITUENTS IN IDAHO SO I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK HE'S ON THE WRONG PATH.

I REALLY DON'T.

HOW DO WE, THOUGH, MAKE UP FOR THE ELECTRICAL THAT'S LOST FROM THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A CLEAN ENERGY SOURCE THAT WE NEED FOR OUR CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUES.

IF YOU TAKE THAT OUT, WHAT ARE WE REPLACING IT WITH AND THEN IRRIGATION?

WHAT ARE THE NEEDS OF THE FARMERS AND WE GOT TO GET THE FARMERS ON THE PAGE AS WELL.

THEY'VE GOT TO START SEEING IF THEY'RE PART OF THE DECISION-MAKING HAVING IT INFLICTED ON THEM AND RIGHT NOW THEY FEEL LIKE IT'S INFLICTED ON THEM.

>> WHAT IS YOUR APPROACH, THOUGH, IF ELECTED TO CONGRESS TO MANAGE THAT?

TO TAKE ACTION?

>> BRINGING THEM IN.

>> BRINGING THEM IN.

>> YES, TALKING TO THEM.

I AM NOT ONE TO EVER SAY THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, THIS IS MY WAY OR THE HIGHWAY.

I STRONGLY BELIEVE IN CONSENSUS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.

CONGRESS ISN'T GOING TO WORK THAT WAY.

[LAUGH] >> I KNOW THAT BECAUSE THERE'S TOO MUCH PARTISANSHIP RIGHT NOW.

BUT IN OUR STATE, EVERY IDAHOAN WHO HAS A SIGNIFICANT CONCERN ABOUT THE ISSUE, THEY DESERVE TO BE A RIGHT PART SOLVING THAT ISSUE.

I KNOW THAT GOVERNOR -- WE'VE HAD GROUPS GETTING TOGETHER TO TRY TO SAY HOW DO WE SOPHOMORE THIS PROBLEM AND THEY CAME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS THAT CAN MOVE US A LITTLE TOWARDS IT BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO DO THE JOB, AND SO I DO THINK THAT'S THE ROUTE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE.

>> WENDY NORMAN, I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> YOU BET.

THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> THE NEXT IDAHO DEBATES WILL AIR ON OCTOBER 24TH FEATURING CANDIDATES FOR SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION AND ON OCTOBER 28TH FEATURING CANDIDATES FOR THE LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.

NEITHER OF THOSE RACES WILL HAVE AN INCUMBENT ON THE NOVEMBER BALLOT.

IF YOU MISSED ANY OF OUR DEBATES YOU CAN WATCH THEM ONLY AT IDAHOPT.ORG/DEBATES.

FOR INFORMATION ON HOW OR WHERE TO VOTE ON THE NOVEMBER 8TH ELECTION GO TO VOTEIDAHO.GOV.

THAT'S ALL WE HAVE TIME FOR.

WE'LL SEE YOU NEXT WEEK.

>> COMMITTED TO FULFILLING THE MOORE AND BETTIS FAMILY LEGACY OF BUILDING THE GREAT STATE OF IDAHO.

BY THE FRIENDS OF IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION AND BY THE CORPORATION FOR PUBLIC