>> "ALMANAC" IS A PRODUCTION OF TWIN CITIES PBS FOR THE STATIONS OF MINNESOTA PUBLIC TELEVISION ASSOCIATION.

>> WE HAVE A PACKED SHOW FOR YOU TONIGHT.

WE'RE GOING TO HEAR WHY THE U OF M WANTS TO REGAIN CONTROL OF THEIR TEACHING HOSPITAL.

PAUL DOUGLAS IS HERE WITH SOME SPECIAL WINTER GEAR.

POLITICAL A.M.ISTS WILL FILL THE COUCH.

MARY LAHAMMER HAS BEEN UP AT THE CAPITOL.

>> THE FIRST BILL OF SESSION HAS BEEN SIGNED INTO LAW.

COULD THIS BE A BIPARTISAN SIGN OF MORE TO COME?

WE'LL EXPLORE.

>> TO BE LESS THAN TEN DAYS INTO THIS SESSION WITH ALL THE WORK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT.

>> THAT'S COMING UP ON "ALMANAC."

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CATH IN THE NEXT HOUR WE'LL WITH LARRY FITZGERALD ABOUT THE VIKES PLAYOFF CHANCES.

GIVE YOU A SNEAK PEEK OF "JIM CROW OF THE NORTH" DIGITAL STORIES.

ASK KAOMI LEE INTRODUCES US TO A STILLWATER NATIVE WITH A PASSION FOR VINTAGE ART.

>> BUT WE START WITH THE BIGGER STORIES OF THE WEEK THE PROPOSED SANFORD-FAIRVIEW HEALTH SYSTEMS MERGER.

MUCH OF THE CONCERN COMES FROM THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND MEDICAL COMMUNITIES THAT INCLUDES THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA'S TEACHING HOSPITAL IS PART OF THE FAIRVIEW HEALTH SYSTEM.

OFFICIALS ANNOUNCED EARLIER THIS WEEK THEY WOULD LIKE RECLAIM THAT HOSPITAL BEFORE A MERGER HAPPENS.

MYRON FRANS IS SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT FOR FINANCE AND OPERATIONS AT THE UNIVERSITY.

>> IN 1997 YOU SOLD THESE ASSETS FOR FAIRVIEW FOR NEARLY $3 BILLION.

WHAT HAS CHANGED?

>> WELL, LET'S UNPACK THAT A LITTLE BIT FIRST.

>> PLEASE.

>> SO THE INITIAL TRANSACTION IN 1997 WAS A TRANSFER OF THE HOSPITAL FROM THE UNIVERSITY TO SANFORD.

I AM SORRY, TO FAIRVIEW.

BUT REMEMBER, THOSE WERE PUBLIC ASSETS BY THE UNIVERSITY WITH PUBLIC DOLLARS TRANSFERRED TO NON-PROFIT.

NOW, THERE WERE A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN THAT TRANSACTION AND ONE OF THEM WAS A COMMITMENT THAT THAT HOSPITAL WOULD CONTINUE TO BE USED FOR THE PUBLIC MISSION OF THE UNIVERSITY.

AND THERE WERE A LOT OF PAYMENTS BACK AND FORTH THE UNIVERSITY MADE SOME PAYMENTS, FAIRVIEW MADE SOME PAYMENTS SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS SORT OF UNPACK THAT AND WHAT WAS THAT TRANSFER REALLY LIKE.

SO WE DO THINK, THOUGH, THAT THAT DECISION, YOU KNOW, WE MADE IT IN LIGHT OF WHAT WE KNEW 26, 7 YEARS AGO.

WE THINK NOW THOUGH THAT THE BETTER THING IS TO REACQUIRE SOME OF THOSE ASSETS AND BRING THEM BACK INTO THE UNIVERSITY CONTROL, GOVEXANCE AND OPERATION.

>> Cathy: HOWEVER, THE '97 DEAL WAS BECAUSE THE HOSPITAL WAS STRUGGLING AND YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A PARTNER.

NOW WE'RE 20-SOME YEARS LATER AND THE LANDSCAPE HAS CHANGED DRAMATICALLY DURING THAT TIME.

ARE YOU SURE THIS IS THE RIGHT MOVE?

>> WELL, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

THERE'S A LOT THAT'S CHANGING.

AS WE ALL KNOW THE HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY IS UNDER SERIOUS PRESSURE RIGHT NOW.

COVID DEALT SERIOUS PLOWS, THE ABILITY TO TRACK PEOPLE AND KEEP NURSES AND TRAIN HOSPITAL STAFF IS A PROBLEM.

WE BELIEVE THOUGH THAT THINGS HAVE CHANGED SUFFICIENTLY THAT THE ACADEMIC HEALTH MISSION CAN BE PROFITABLY MONEY, I SAY PROFITABLY, WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE MONEY, WE JUST WANT TO MAKE ENDS MEET, WE BELIEVE NOW IS TIME TO MAKE THAT CHANGE BACK FOR JUST A FEW OF THOSE FACILITIES BUT E STILL WANT TO MAKE STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER PARTNERS LIKE SANFORD OR FAIRVIEW, FOR EXAMPLE.

>> Cathy: BUT YOU'RE ALSO TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A NEW FACILITY ATHE AT A HIGH HIGH PRICE TAG.

WHY DO YOU NEED A NEW FACILITY?

>> BOTH EAST BANK AND FAIRVIEW ARE OLD FACILITIES.

AND WE'RE ASKING FOR HELP IN BRINGING THEM UP O SPEED TO ENHANCE CURRENT FACILITIES.

BUT OUR LONG-TERM VIEW, AND WE HAVE A CAMPUS PLAN THAT WE PUT OUT LAST YEAR THAT'S ENVISIONED A NEW UNIVERSITY HOSPITAL, STATE OF THE ART HOSPITAL ON THE EAST BANK.

WE'VE ALREADY BOUGHT THE LAND FOR IT SO WE'VE BEEN PLANNING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME.

THIS IS KIND OF ACCELERATING OUR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT THINKING NOW IS BETTER THAN LATER ABOUT THAT.

BUT IT IS A BIG ENDEAVOR.

>> Eric: HOW DOES THE FAIRVIEW-SANFORD POTENTIAL MERGER FIT INTO THE PICTURE IF IT DOES AND HAS THE UNIVERSITY TAKEN A STANCE ON THE MERGER?

>> YEAH, HERE'S WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

SANFORD AND THE UNIVERSITY AND FAIRVIEW BEGAN DISCUSSIONS LAST MAY I THINK IT WAS AND PUT TOGETHER A LETTER OF INTENT WITH THE ENTITIES AND CAME TO US THREE OR FOUR MONTHS LATER WITH THIS PLAN AND IN THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WE THINK THAT THE BETTER WAY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE UNIVERSITY ACADEMIC HEALTH MEDICINE IS SET UP BEFORE THAT MERGER HAPPENS.

SO IT'S OUR BELIEF THAT WE SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT THE UNIVERSITY CONCERNS ARE ADDRESSED FIRST AND THEN THE MERGER COULD OCCUR.

THE MARCH 31ST CURRENT PLANNING DEADLINE FOR THE MERGER WE THINK IS MUCH TOO FAST FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

WE NEED TO TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME, AKE SURE THE UNIVERSITY'S VISION IS TAKEN CARE OF AND WE HAVE SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THESE FLAGSHIP ASSETS AND HOW WE GO FORWARD.

>> Eric: I SEE.

>> Cathy: IF THE MERGER GOES THROUGH WHAT MIGHT BE THE IMPACT OF THE U OF M IF YOU DON'T BAIL OUT FIRST, YOU KNOW?

>> WELL, SO REMEMBER WE HAVE AN ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH FAIRVIEW, IT'S A GREAT RELATIONSHIP, THE DOCTORS AND NURSES AND STAFF DO A TREMENDOUS JOB OF DELIVERING HEALTH CARE THROUGH THE MHEALTH RELATIONSHIP AND THAT GOES ON FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THAT CONTRACT RIGHT AND THOSE RELATIONSHIPS WILL CONTINUE.

THE QUESTION REALLY BECOMES DO WE REALLY WANT THE FLAGSHIP, THE TRADITIONAL FLAGSHIP ASSETS OF THE UNIVERSITY TO TRANSFER TO SANFORD AND THEN TALKED LATER ON ABOUT THEM COMING BACK TO THE UNIVERSITY.

BECAUSE UNDER THE MERGER THOSE WOULD BE GOVERNED BY A SOUTH DAKOTA BOARD UNDER SANFORD FLAGSHIP.

SO WE WOULD PREFER TO HAVE THAT AND DECIDE IT NOW BEFORE THAT TAKES PLACE BECAUSE IT MAY END UP COMING RIGHT BACK ANYWAY.

>> Eric: THE UNIVERSITY HAS BEEN IN THE NEWS AS THEY SAY FOR A LOT OF THE WRONG REASONS IN THE LAST SIX MONTHS OR SO.

I WILL SAY HOW ARE YOU AND RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE LEGISLATURE IF YOU NEED SOME MONEY TO PAY FOR THAT?

>> THEY'VE BEEN GREAT.

>> YOU'RE A FORMER STATE FINANCE COMMISSIONER.

>> YEAH, THEY STILL CALL ME COMMISSIONER, WHICH IS KIND OF FUN.

AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF GOOD DISCUSSIONS AND THEY'RE REALLY INTERESTED IN THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA LONG-TERM HEALTH CARE.

BECAUSE TO YOUR POINT, CATHY, WE'RE AT A POINT IN HEALTH CARE WHERE WE NEED TO MAKE SOME REALLY HARD DECISIONS AND IF WE BITE THIS OFF AS A STATE WE BELIEVE IT'S THAT INNOVATION OF THE ACADEMIC HEALTH MEDICINE THAT WE NEED FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.

BECAUSE THERE'S REALLY THREE THINGS WE DO.

WE TEACH AND TRAIN, AND THEN WE, YOU KNOW, DOCTORS, PHARMACISTS, NURSES, HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS AND WE TOUCH PATIENTS, ABOUT A MILLION TOUCHES WITH PATIENTS IN TERMS OF PATIENT ENCOUNTERS LAST YEAR AND THE THIRD AND MOST INTERESTING ASPECT IS INNOVATIVE CARE.

DR. TOLAR DEAN OF THE MEDICAL SCHOOL DOES A REALLY GOOD JOB DESCRIBING THIS.

IT'S REALLY HOW YOU HUMANIZE SCIENCE, WE GO TO THE LAB, STUDY DISEASES AND ILLNESSES AND FIGURE HOW CAN WE FIX IT, ONCE WE FIGURE OUT HOW THAT MECHANISM WORKS THEN WE FIGURE OUT HOW DO WE MAKE THAT INTO HEALTH CARE, BETTER TREATMENT, BETTER PROCESSES AND MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA HAVE ACCESS TO THAT.

SO THAT'S THE ACADEMIC HEALTH MEDICINE TRYING TO MAKE SURE IT'S INTEGRATED WITH THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.

>> Eric: WE'LL FOLLOW IT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

IT'S EXCITING.

>> Cathy: SOUNDS LIKE A LONG ROAD, THOUGH.

>> IT'S A LONG ROAD.

>> Eric: APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANKS.

♪♪ >> HAS THIS YEAR'S SNOWFALL MADE A DENT IN THE DROUGHT?

WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO WALK OR DRIVE ON THIS WEEK'S GLAZE ICE?

AND WHAT IS UP WITH THE AIR QUALITY ALERTS IN JANUARY?

PAUL DOUGLAS JOINS US FOR HIS MONTHLY WEATHER CHAT.

YOU CAN FIND HIS WEATHER MUSINGS ON THE STAR TRIBUNE, WCCO RADIO AND OWNS HIS OWN WEATHER COMPANY, PREDICTIX.

>> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU.

>> NICE TO SEE YOU.

NOTHING WORSE THAN AN ICE STORM.

NO ONE LIKES ICE.

>> ICE IS ROUGH AND I HAVE A THEORY.

I HEAR FROM ENOUGH SNOWBIRDS, IT ISN'T THE SNOW THAT CHASES THEM ENOUGH, NOT EVEN ACTIC FRONTS, SUBZERO.

ICE IS HARDER TO RATIONALIZE AND I'M GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE SHOW AND TELL SESSION.

JUST WHAT YOU NEED IN THE NEW YEAR ON FRIDAY THE 13TH.

WHAT CAN POSSIBLY GO WRONG?

>> Eric: CAN YOU DO YOUR GRAPHICS FIRST?

>> YEAH, I THINK I WANT TO DO THE GRAPHICS FIRST.

YEAH, THE VISUALS.

THIS IS TELEVISION.

VISUALS MATTER.

THIS WAS MY DRIVEWAY ABOUT A WEEK AGO.

THERE'S A GLACIER IN MY DRIVEWAY.

>> Eric: MAN.

>> 15-INCHES OF SNOW LAST WEEK IN THE METRO, 14TH BIGGEST SNOWSTORM SINCE 1884.

AND TO DATE IT'S THE THIRD SNOWIEST WINTER ON RECORD FOR THE TWIN CITIES.

1992 WE HAD 62 AS OF THIS TIME.

BUT, AGAIN, THE BEGINNING OF THAT WINTER WAS THE HALLOWEEN SUPERSTORM.

THAT WAS 29-INCHES IN ONE SHOT.

AND THEN '84, FIRST WINTER I WAS HERE WE GOT 98.6 THE WHOLE WINTER.

BUT AS OF THIS MOMENT AS OF JANUARY 13TH WE HAD 56.

SO FAR THIS YEAR, 48.3.

IMPRESSIVE.

KEEP IN MIND THE 30-YEAR AVERAGE NOW IS ABOUT 52-INCHES IN THE TWIN CITIES.

AT THE RATE WE'RE GOING, WE COULD EASILY HAVE 70, 75.

GIVE OR TAKE.

YOUR RESULTS MAY VARY.

48.3 SO FAR IN THE TWIN CITIES.

AND CHECK OUT THE DEPARTURE FROM NORMAL.

WE'RE MORE THAN TWO FEET AHEAD OF SCHEDULE TO DATE, AND, YEAH, THAT MOISTURE IS IN FACT MAKING A DIFFERENCE.

THERE'S SEVERAL INCHES OF LIQUID WATER TIED UP IN THAT SNOWPACK.

WE'VE GONE FROM EXTREME DROUGHT FOR MUCH OF THE METRO TO MODERATE DROUGHT IN THE SPAN OF LESS THAN A MONTH.

SO THAT IS GREAT NEWS, HOPEFULLY THAT TREND WILL CONTINUE.

AND WE ARE GOING TO SEE ANOTHER THAT WILL COMING UP THIS WEEKEND -- ANOTHER THAW COMING UP THIS WEEKEND.

I THINK WE HAVE THE LATEST EUROPEAN MODEL WHICH SHOWS UPPER 30S ON SUNDAY, MONDAY SHOULD BE IN THE MID-30S AND THEN IT DOES COOL OFF.

NOTHING NANOOK, NOTHING POLAR, NO NEGATIVE NUMBERS.

AND THINK ABOUT IT, THE NEXT WEEK TO TEN DAYS IS HISTORICALLY THE COLDEST OF THE ENTIRE WINTER.

FOR US TO BE IN THE 20S AND 30S IS A PRETTY BIG DEAL.

I WANT TO SHOW YOU AN IMAGE AND REMIND YOU OF SOMETHING MY DEAR FRIEND, OUR DEAR FRIEND DR. MARK SALEY TOLD ME A COUPLE YEARS AGO THAT STUCK WITH ME.

THE TWIN CITIES AND SOUTHERN MINNESOTA SEES FOUR TIMES MORE ICE AND RAIN IN MID-WINTER THAN IT DID BEFORE 2000.

>> Cathy: WOW.

, HMM.

>> AND THAT'S BECAUSE IT'S WARMING UP.

WE ARE SEEING MORE MIXED AND RAIN SITUATIONS.

>> Eric: I WISH THERE WAS SOME ACADEMIC RESEARCH ON ICE WALKING.

I WISH THERE WAS.

>> LUCKILY FOR YOU, THERE IS.

>> Eric: PRAY TELL!

>> SO, LOOK, I BROKE MY ANKLE WALKING THE OG A FEW YEARS AGO.

AND NOT MY FINEST MOMENT.

I WAS DISTRACTED, I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION.

IT WASN'T LEO'S FAULT.

>> Eric: ALL RIGHT, GET TO THE LESSON.

>> IT WAS MY FAULT.

SO HERE.

EVER SINCE I BROKE MY ANKLE I WEAR HESE YAKTRAX, AND THIS IS A DREAM OF MINE, ENDORSING YAKTRAX ON PUBLIC TELEVISION.

BUT I MEAN FIND WHATEVER WORKS BUT THESE ARE COILS AND YOU PUT THEM ON THE BOTTOM OF YOUR SPEAKERS AND THEY'RE EASY TO TAKE ON AND TAKE OFF AND THEY COST ALL OF 20 OR $30.

WHEN YOU'RE WALKING, AND I GOT THIS FROM IOWA STATE, THEY ACTUALLY DID STUDIES INTO THE BEST WAY TO WALK ON ICE.

>> Cathy: NO.

OH, GOD.

>> APPARENTLY, CAN YOU IMAGINE GETTING VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT SCIENTIFIC PROJECT?

>> Cathy: NO.

>> Eric: SO WHAT'S THE -- >> THE MISTAKE PEOPLE MAKE THEY LEAN BACK, IF YOU FALL AND GO BACK YOU HIT THE BACK OF YOUR HEAD, IF THAT'S THE FIRST THING YOU HIT YOU COULD CAUSE BRAIN DAMAGE, 17,000 AMERICANS A YEAR DIE FALLING HITTING THEIR HEADS AND MUCH OF THAT IS ON ICE.

THE MINNESOTA SHUFFLE, WALK LIKE A PENGUIN, YOUR CENTER OF GRAVITY IS FORWARD SO IF YOU DO FALL YOU FALL TO THE SIDE, YOU DON'T FALL BACKWARDS AND FALL ON YOUR HEAD.

>> Cathy: FALL ON YOUR FACE, OKAY.

>> LET ME TRY THIS AGAIN.

SO THE SHUFFLE.

WHEN YOU FALL, YOU FALL FIRST ON YOUR THIGH, HIP, AND THEN YOUR SHOULDER TO ABSORB THE SHOCK.

AND DON'T USE YOUR HANDS NECESSARILY TO BRACE.

AND DON'T TEXT, RIGHT?

>> Cathy: DON'T TEXT.

>> DON'T HAVE YOUR PHONE OUT.

>> Cathy: JUST SHUFFLE.

>> SHALL I KEEP SHUFFLING?

OKAY.

>> Eric: EXIT STAGE LEFT.

>> I CAN TAKE A HINT.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> Eric: HAPPY NEW YEAR, PAUL.

>> NOW WATCH ME FALL.

♪♪ >> KIND OF FEELS LIKE YOU'RE ALREADY STAKING OUT A MINI MODERATE FRESHMAN DEMOCRAT CAUCUS.

IS THAT FAIR >> YEAH, I MEAN CERTAINLY THERE WERE THOSE OF US ELECTED IN VERY TIGHT DISTRICTS THAT ARE MODERATES.

I THINK IT WAS ABOUT TELLING THE PUBLIC AND OUR VOTERS THAT WE HEARD THEM.

>> THIS IS KIND OF A NEW ERA.

THERE'S A LOT OF YOUNGER YOUTH COMING INTO THE SENATE.

>> I'M A DAD.

I HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR STATE IN TERMS OF EDUCATION FUNDING AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT CHILDCARE COSTS.

I'M CONCERNED ABOUT PAID FAMILY LEAVE.

AS A YOUNG DAD, HOW DO WE CHAMPION FAMILIES?

THESE ARE NOT WOMEN ISSUES, THESE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, JUST ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE FOCUSED IN THAT WAY, WE HAVE A LOT OF FOLKS THAT CAN CHAMPION HESE ISSUES AND I HOPE TO DO THAT.

♪♪ >> Eric: THE BIGGEST OFF SEASON CONCERN FOR THE MINNESOTA TWINS WAS THE HOLE AT SHORTSTOP AFTER CARLOS CORREA OPTED OUT OF HIS ONTRACT.

THAT'S NO LONGER AN ISSUE AFTER AN OFF SEASON AGA THAT NO ONE COULD HAVE PREDICTED.

CORREA SIGNED A SIX-YEAR DEAL THIS WEEK TO RETURN TO THE TWINS' FIELD.

NOW FANS CAN TURN TO THE MINNESOTA VIKINGS AND THE PLAYOFF GAME AGAINST THE NEW YORK GIANTS THIS WEEKEND.

LET'S ASK LARRY FITZGERALD SENIOR, DOES WORK FOR THE NATIONAL PROGRAMMING NETWORK AND IS A REGULAR VISITOR FOR US ON ALMANAC.

DO YOU BELIEVE CARLOS CORREA WHEN HE SAID I DID TEST THE MARKET BUT MY HEART WAS WITH MINNESOTA?

>> NO, OT FOR A MINUTE.

I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE IT.

THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST BIZARRE THINGS I'VE SEEN IN MY CAREER.

TO SEE A GUY SIGN 13 MILLION WITH SAN FRANCISCO, AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S WON MANY CHAMPIONSHIPS.

THEN GO TO THE METS WHO WON 100 GAMES LAST YEAR, SAME DEAL.

AND BOTH OF THEIR DOCTORS, TRAINER PEOPLE SAID, NO, WE CAN'T TRUST THAT ANKLE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THAT CONTRACT.

AND THE TWINS SAY COME ON BACK!

AND HE TWINS FIRED THEIR TRAINER LAST YEAR, LET'S NOT FORGET THAT.

>> Cathy: OHH.

>> Eric: THAT'S RIGHT.

>> SO HERE THEY BRING SOMEONE BACK WHO THEY COVETED.

BUT, YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY STRANGE TO ME.

PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE, YOU GOT TO SEE OUR RECAP, EVERYBODY DOES IT THE SAME WAY.

MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL, THE YANKEES DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, DODGERS DO WHAT THEY ANT TO DO AND THE TWINS, THEY'RE OVER HERE -- >> Eric: THEY HAVE A SELF-IMPOSED SALARY CAP.

>> YEAH, BUT TO GIVE A GUY $200 MILLION MORE THAN ANY GUY THEY'VE EVER PAID IN FRANCHISE HISTORY AND COMING IN WITH A QUESTION MARK IS VERY DEBATABLE.

>> Cathy: THAT MEANS THAT THE TWINS WILL PROBABLY NOT SPEND VERY MUCH MORE ON PITCHING THEN.

>> I WOULDN'T SEE THEM DOING VERY MUCH, I JUST CAN'T DO IT.

>> Eric: VIKINGS-GIANTS RENEW THEIR SEASON IVALLY.

HOW DO YOU SEE THAT GAME SHAPING UP?

>> THEY'VE GOT HISTORY.

I WAS ON THAT PLANE -- >> Eric: 41-ZIP.

>> THEY WENT IN THERE EARLY, NFL MADE YOU GO A COUPLE DAYS EARLY, RANDY MOSS, CRIS CARTER, DAUNTE CULPEPPER, IT WAS JUST A MESS, THEY WENT OUT ON THE FIELD AND GOT THEIR HELMETS HANDED TO HIM.

BUT DENNY GREEN WON HIS FIRST PLAYOFF GAME AGAINST THE GIANTS.

IT WAS A MIRACLE.

THERE'S HISTORY THERE BUT I THINK THE VIKINGS OWE THE GIANTS.

YOU CAN NEVER FORGET THAT 41-0 WHOOPING.

>> Cathy: THERE'S GOT TO BE SOMETHING THAT WORRIES YOU ABOUT THIS.

>> THE BIGGEST CONCERN IS OFFENSIVE LINE.

ARE THEY GOING TO HAVE BRADBURY AT CENTER?

YOU CAN'T INTO A PLAYOFF GAME WITHOUT RIGHT CENTER AND THEY LOST THEIR RIGHT TACKLE WHO WAS PROBABLY THEIR BEST OFFENSIVE, BLAIR AND OTHER INJURIES AT DIFFERENT PLACES.

KEVIN O'CONNELL, THEY HAVE DONE A REMARKABLE JOB BEING POSITIVE, BEING ON THE UPBEAT, HONEST, AND BEING DIRECT WITH THIS FOOTBALL TEAM.

THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF VETERAN PLAYERS BUT THEY ARE A VERY TALENTED TEAM.

JEFFERSON LEADS THE WAY, THE GUY'S GOT ALMOST 1900-YARDS MORE CATCHES THAN ANY VIKING HAS EVER HAD IN ONE SEASON.

SOME GUY NAMED KIRK COUSINS HE'S PLAYING PRETTY GOOD.

THEY GET THE 75 TO 100-YARDS THEY'RE GOING TO KILL THE GIANTS.

>> Cathy: ALL RIGHT.

>> Eric: T-WOLVES, KAT IS ON THE TRADING BLOCK, BIG THREEWAY DEAL WITH THE WARRIORS AND HAWKS.

IS THERE SMOKE AND FIRE THERE OR JUST SMOKE?

>> ANYBODY THAT TRADES WITH THE TIMBERWOLVES THEY GOT A CHAMPIONSHIP COMING.

[ LAUGHTER ] THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT WORKS.

I WOULDN'T MAKE A DEAL IF I WERE THE TIMBERWOLVES.

LET HIM PLAY THE SEASON OUT.

IT'S BEEN A MESS ALREADY.

HE'S MISSED 25 GAMES.

LET'S SEE IF HE CAN MESH WITH RUDY BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO WIN PROBABLY 15 GAMES IN THE SECOND HALF SEASON, THEY GOT 40 OF THEM LEFT MORE.

THEY'RE BELOW 500 RIGHT NOW SO THEY'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HAVE TO WIN ABOUT 25 GAMES OUT OF THE 40 TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.

>> Eric: DO WE KNOW IF THE GOBERT EXPERIMENT IS WORKING OR IS IT HARD TO TELL WITH THAT COMPONENT MISSING WITH INJURIES?

>> I THINK IT'S WORKING.

WHAT THIS TEAM HAS TO UNDERSTAND IS THEY HAVE TO DO WHAT HE DOES BEST.

AND WHAT HE DOES BEST, HE IS A TREMENDOUS DEFENDER.

THEY GOT TO USE HIM MORE IN TRAPS AND THEY GOT TO UNDERSTAND THAT ON A PICK AND ROLL, HE'S UNSTOPPABLE.

YOU EITHER TAKE THE SHOT OR JUST TOSS IT UP IN THE AIR AND HE DUNKS IT.

THEY'VE GOT TO FIGURE THOSE THINGS OUT.

THE OTHER NIGHT THEY LOST TO DETROIT, ONE OF THE WORST TEAMS IN THE LEAGUE, GAVE UP 135 POINTS.

HOW IN THE WORLD DO YOU USE TO THAT TEAM TWICE?

>> Eric:.

>> Cathy: GO VIKINGS!

>> THEY'RE GONNA GET IT DONE.

>> Cathy: YOU HEARD IT HERE.

♪♪ >> FOLKS TOOK UP A LOT OF HOBBIES WHEN WE COULDN'T GO ANYWHERE OR DO ANYTHING OUTSIDE OUR HOMES.

BAKING BREAD, GARDENING, DANCING EVERY DAY FOR FIVE MINUTES, CROCHETING A BLANKET WITH A PATTERN BASED ON HOW MANY, UM, BOWEL MOVEMENTS THEY'D HAD THAT DAY.

THAT IS A REAL THING THAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

PEOPLE GOT REALLY CREATIVE REALLY FAST.

AND THEN LIFE SLOWLY RETURNED TO SOMETHING LIKE NORMAL, AND SOME OF THOSE HOBBIES FELL BY THE WAYSIDE.

AHEM.

I HAVEN'T TASTED HOMEMADE SOURDOUGH IN QUITE SOME TIME, HUSBAND.

ONE OF MY CREATIVE PURSUITS, THEATER, ISAPPEARED OVERNIGHT.

ONE DAY WE HAD A SHOW, THE NEXT WE DIDN'T.

IT WAS A REALLY PROMISING CAST, SO IT WAS HEARTBREAKING TO WATCH THAT HOPE FIZZLE INTO NOTHING AS THE MONTHS AND THE UNCERTAINTY DRAGGED ON.

BUT SOMETIMES THERE'S REDEMPTION.

WE'RE GETTING A DO-OVER.

THE SAME SHOW IS COMING BACK THIS SPRING AND I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE HOW THOSE YOUNG FOLKS I MET AS FRESHMEN IN HIGH SCHOOL HAVE CHANGED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS.

IN THE SMALL UPDATES I'VE GOTTEN I CAN ALREADY TELL THEY'VE GROWN IN CONFIDENCE, SKILL, AND COLLABORATION.

BY THE WAY, FUTURE EMPLOYERS OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE, HIRE THEATER KIDS.

THEY KNOW HOW TO WORK TOGETHER TO GET STUFF DONE.

REHEARSALS IN THE SHOW WOULDN'T BE EXACTLY THE SAME DUE TO, UM, SEVERAL FACTORS, BUT WE'LL FIGURE IT OUT TOGETHER.

WE ALWAYS DO.

[ APPLAUSE ] ♪♪ >> Cathy: KATIE SARO HAS A HIT SHOW ON THE MAGNOLIA NETWORK CALLED "THE ART OF VINTAGE."

DESIGNER SARO CARRIES ONE OF A KIND ROOM ROOMS USING VINTAGE PIECES.

THIS SHOW IS EITHER SET IN STILLWATER WHERE SHE HAS LOCATED BACK TO HER CHILDHOOD HOME WITH HER FAMILY.

REPORTER KAOMI LEE GOT A CHANCE TO MEET SARO AND HEAR MORE ABOUT HER STORY.

>> VINTAGE DESIGNER KATIE SARO MOVED BACK TO THE STATE IN 2020 AFTER TWO DECADES.

SHE CAME BACK WITH HER HUSBAND NICK AND SIX KIDS.

THEY ENDED UP BUYING HER CHILDHOOD HOME IN STILLWATER.

>> AND MY DAD OPENED UP THIS BIG OPENING.

I WAS PROBABLY 14 OR 13.

YOU CAN SEE THE FLOORS WHERE THE WALL USED TO BE.

>> WARM HUG!

>> ALSO WITH HER IS A MAJOR TV NETWORK.

SARO STARS ATHE ART OF VINTAGE ON MAGNOLIA NETWORK.

IT'S JUST FILMED ITS FIRST SEASON.

>> I LIKE FINDING NEW LIFE FOR DISCARDED FURNITURE AND THINGS.

I KNOW THEY'RE JUST OLD WINDOWS BUT THEY'RE SO PRETTY.

I WANT TO USE THEM LIKE RAMES LIKE PUT SOME ART IN IT.

>> IT'S ABOUT FINDING WHAT'S AROUND AND MAKING IT WORK.

>> I AGREED TO DO THE TV SHOW WHEN I LIVED IN DALLAS AND I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING TO BE IN DALLAS AND THEN AT THE LAST MINUTE I TOLD THEM I WAS MOVING BACK TO STILLWATER AND THEY WERE FINE, THEY JUST ROLLED WITH IT.

IT REALLY WOULDN'T BE THIS SHOW IF THIS TOWN WASN'T THE BACKGROUND OF IT.

>> ONE OF THE SUBTLE WAYS SHE SHOWS US STILLWATER IS BY TAKING US INSIDE ITS HISTORIC HOMES.

>> SO DO YOU GUYS LIKE COLOR?

>> YEAH, I DO.

>> I ON'T, I'M A LITTLE BIT AFRAID OF COLOR.

>> SARO GREW UP IN STILLWATER IN THE LATE '80S AND '90S.

HER GRANDFATHER IMMIGRATED FROM THE PHILIPPINES AND REMEMBERED THAT BEING BIRACIAL MADE HER STAND OUT.

>> MINNESOTA IS VERY SCANDINAVIAN AND IS HAD A LOT OF BLONDE PEOPLE SO I THOUGHT TO BE BEAUTIFUL YOU HAD TO BE BLONDE.

I ALWAYS FELT LIKE A WEIRDO BECAUSE I DIDN'T LOOK LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE AND I ALWAYS FELT SPECIAL BECAUSE EVERYONE KNEW WHO I WAS JUST BECAUSE THEY COULD LOOK AT MY FACE AND KNOW WHAT FAMILY I BELONGED IN.

>> AND SHE ADMITS THERE HAS BEEN ADJUSTMENT SINCE SHE'S COME BACK.

>> TALKING ABOUT THE WEATHER IS VERY IMPORTANT.

I DIDN'T EVER LOOK AT THE WEATHER EFORE, NOW IT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW EVERY DAY.

>> SARO SAYS MOVING BACK HAS HELPED HER REALIZE HOW MUCH MINNESOTA HAS INFLUENCED HER.

>> IT ADDS SO MUCH DRAMA TO THAT WALL AND MAKES THE HUTCH FEEL WAY MORE IMPORTANT AND GIVES THE ILLUSION OF A STONE FIREPLACE WHICH IS TOTALLY WHAT YOU WOULD SEE IN A MID CENTURY HOME LIKE THIS.

>> ALMOST EVERYTHING THAT I BUY SOMEONE CAN TELL WHERE I THEY GOT IT FROM AND WHICH GRANDMOTHER'S IT USED TO E AND WHAT THE STORY WAS.

>> WE BOUGHT A DINING ROOM TABLE FROM A MAN AND HE SAID IT WAS HIS FATHER'S ON THE STRAWBERRY FARM.

>> I KNOW, THE CHANDELIERS ARE AWESOME.

>> WOW!

WHERE DID YOU GET THOSE?

>> SARO SAYS EVEN SHOPPING AT HER LOCAL ANTIQUE STORE CAN BE AN ADVENTURE.

>> I LOVE STOPPING IN STILLWATER BECAUSE LIKE THE BUILDINGS HEMSELVES ARE ANTIQUE.

>> YEAH.

>> LIKE THIS USED TO BE AN OLD LUMBER MILL.

>> THAT IS COOL.

>> SO I ALWAYS GO ANTIQUING WITH MY KIDS.

>> UH-HUH.

>> THEY LOVE GARAGE SALES AND ANTIQUE MALLS AND ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND I LIKE TO TEACH THEM LIKE ALL THE LITTLE TRICKS.

SO LIKE HOW DO YOU TELL WHETHER SOMETHING'S HANDMADE, LIKE YOU LOOK FOR IMPERFECTIONS, LIKE YOU SEE HOW THIS IS IMPERFECT IN THE WAY IT'S PUT TOGETHER.

>> KATIE'S BROUGHT PEOPLE IN THAT COME IN COUPLE TIMES A MONTH WHO SAID WE SAW YOU ON TV AND REALLY ENJOY YOUR SHOW.

>> ISN'T THIS COOL?

>> IF EVERYBODY THAT COMES HERE IS 70 AND UP WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE HERE LONG.

SO WE NEED 35-YEAR-OLDS TO RECOGNIZE WHAT WE DO.

>> SARO'S FAMILY IS FEATURED IN EVERY EPISODE.

SHE SAYS THAT WASN'T THE ORIGINAL INTENT.

>> I LIKE IT, I THINK IT IVES A BETTER PICTURE OF WHY BEAUTY MATTERS AND BEAUTY MATTERS BECAUSE PEOPLE, LIKE BECAUSE PEOPLE.

LIKE WE WANT TO GIVE BEAUTY TO PEOPLE.

THE WHOLE REASON I DO DESIGN IS BECAUSE I WANTED TO CREATE BEAUTY FOR MY KIDS.

AND NOW I JUST WANT TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE CREATE BEAUTY FOR THEIR FAMILIES.

♪♪ >> Cathy: NEXT MONDAY N MLK DAY, A NEW TWIN CITIES PBS SERIES BASED ON THE DOCUMENTARY "JIM CROW OF THE NORTH" WILL PREMIERE ON YOUTUBE AND FACEBOOK.

"JIM CROW OF THE NORTH STORIES" TAKES A CLOSER LOOK AT SYSTEMIC RACISM AND HOW PRACTICES LIKE RACIAL COVENANTS AND REDLINING CREATED LASTING AND DAMAGING SEGREGATION IN MINNESOTA.

HERE'S A SHORT EXCERPT FROM THE FIRST EPISODE.

>> LET'S GIVE IT UP FOR GEORGE ONE TIME?

>> MINNEAPOLIS IS THE EPICENTER OF A GLOBAL RACIAL RECKONING.

BUT WHY?

WHY HERE IN THE SO-CALLED FREE NORTH?

IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE.

IT'S A DIRECT CONSEQUENCE OF OUR HISTORY.

>> THE WHOLE DAMN SYSTEM IS GUILTY AS HELL!

>> JIM CROW LAWS IN THE SOUTH MADE RUTAL RACISM LEGAL AND SEGREGATION AN EVERYDAY REALITY FOR A CENTURY AFTER THE ABOLITION OF CHATTEL SLAVERY.

BUT UP HERE IN THE NORTH ACHIEVING LEGAL RACIAL SEGREGATION REQUIRED A LITTLE MORE ... CREATIVITY.

I'M AKOMA GATHER, A PUBLIC HISTORIAN DIGGING INTO OUR MODERN RACIAL INEQUITY THROUGH THE PAST.

WHICH LEADS US TO THIS PLACE.

THEODOR WIRTH PARKWAY PART OF A UNIQUE BICYCLE BYWAY THAT CIRCLES MINNEAPOLIS CALLED THE GRAND ROUNDS.

IT'S ALSO A PICTURESQUE BORDER BETWEEN NORTH MINNEAPOLIS TOTS EAST AND THE SUBURB OF GOLDEN VALLEY TO THE WEST.

BUT THERE ARE BORDERS AND THEN THERE ARE BARRIERS.

AND THIS IS THE STORY OF THE LATTER.

THIS IS THE STORY OF "JIM CROW OF THE NORTH."

IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE 20TH CENTURY WHITE LAND DEVELOPERS MADE EXTENSIVE USE OF SOMETHING CALLED RACIALLY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.

AS FORMIDABLE AND LEGAL WEAPONS OF HOUSING DISCRIMINATION.

>> RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ARE CONTRACT CLAUSES.

SOMETIMES IN PRIVATE CONTRACTS, SOMETIMES IN DEVELOPMENT DOCUMENTS, SOMETIMES IN PLATTE MAPS.

THAT RESTRICTED WHO COULD OWN AND BUY LAND IN A PARTICULAR PLACE.

IN MINNESOTA, IN HENNEPIN COUNTY WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE RESEARCH, THEY'RE PRIMARILY IN DEEDS.

AND A LOT OF THEM WERE PLACED KIND OF AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEVEL.

SO THEY WOULD APPLY TO AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD AT ONCE AND THEY WOULD BE PUT IN PLACE WHEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS BEING DEVELOPED.

>> Cathy: MARIA CISCNEROS WHO YOU JUST SAW ON YOUR SCREEN IS A RESIDENT OF GOLDEN VALLEY IN ADDITION TO BEING THAT SUBURB'S CITY ATTORNEY.

SIS ERRNEROS IS A COFOUNDER OF THE JUST DEEDS PROJECT, THAT'S A NON-PROFIT COALITION CREATED TO ADDRESS SYSTEMIC RACISM IN HOUSING.

WELCOME TO ALMANAC.

SO PART OF THIS PIECE WE JUST SAW, TAKE US BRIEFLY INTO THAT STORY.

>> YEAH, SO MY HUSBAND AND I PURCHASED A HOME IN GOLDEN VALLEY SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND AS I WAS LOOKING THROUGH THE TITLE WORK OF THE PROPERTY, I CAME ACROSS A RACIALLY RESTRICTIVE COVENANT IN THE TITLE WORK.

MY HUSBAND IS MIXED RACE LATINO, MY KIDS ARE ALSO AFRO LATINO AND HAVING GROWN UP IN THE COMMUNITY I WAS REALLY SURPRISED TO FIND THE COVENANT BECAUSE IT WAS A HISTORY THAT I DIDN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT, AND THAT WOULD HAVE MEANT THAT MY FAMILY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ABLE TO LIVE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO IT WAS REALLY SHOCKING AND KIND OF INSPIRED ME TO GO DOWN A PATH OF LEARNING MORE ABOUT IT AND TRYING TO DO SOMETHING TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THIS HISTORY OF SEGREGATED OUSING IN OUR COMMUNITY.

, WHAT WERE THE COVENANTS LAST FOLLOWED, LAST IN EFFECT?

>> SO IN MINNESOTA THE LEGISLATURE OUTLAWED WRITING COVENANTS INTO PROPERTY DEEDS IN 1953.

THE HISTORICAL RECORD SHOWS THEY STILL WERE PUT IN PLACE AFTER THAT.

THEY STILL SHOW UP INTO THE '60S.

AND THEN ON A NATIONAL LEVEL THEY WERE OUTLAWED BY THE FEDERAL FAIR HOUSING ACT IN 1968.

BUT IF YOU LOOK T OUR MATERIALS AND SOME OF THE HISTORICAL DOCUMENTS ONLINE WITH MAPPING, THE MAPPING PREJUDICE PROJECT WHICH IS KIND OF THE BASIS FOR OUR PROJECT, YOU'LL SEE THAT A LOT OF THE PATTERNS OF SEGREGATION THAT WERE CREATED BY RACIALLY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS AND OTHER POLICIES REMAIN IN PLACE TODAY.

>> Cathy: SO IF SOMEONE'S WATCHING AND THEY'RE IN MINNEAPOLIS AND ST. PAUL, WHY IS IT IMPORTANT THAT THE HOMEOWNER SHOULD DIG INTO THEIR DEEDS AND SEE IF THEY HAVE A RACIAL COVENANT?

>> YEAH, WE GET THIS QUESTION A LOT.

WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THESE COVENANTS ARE NO LONGER LEGALLY NFORCEABLE, AND DISCHARGING THEM WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE HELP PEOPLE DO, IS LARGELY SYMBOLIC.

BUT I THINK WE HAVE SEEN AS WE HAVE DONE THIS, BEEN DOING THIS WORK OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS THAT HAVING A PERSONAL CONNECTION TO THE TOPIC AND REALLY UNDERSTANDING HOW IT IMPACTED THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU LIVE IN OR THE PLACE WHERE YOU GO TO SCHOOL OR GO TO WORK IS REALLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF THIS PROCESS TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ALL CARRY PERSONAL CONNECTION TO OUR SEGREGATED HOUSING IN MINNESOTA, AND THAT WE ALL HAVE SOME POWER TO HELP CHANGE THINGS GOING FORWARD.

>> Eric: NO LONGER LEGAL BUT AS YOU SAID THE PATTERNS OF SEGREGATED HOUSING CONTINUE.

WHY HAVEN'T THOSE PATTERNS BEEN ABLE TO HAVE BEEN OVERCOME?

>> THERE ARE A LOT F REASONS FOR THAT.

ONE OF THE PRIMARY THINGS THAT WE LOOK AT ESPECIALLY AROUND HOUSING, ACCESS TO HOUSING, IS AFFORDABILITY.

SO AFTER RACIALLY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS BECAME ILLEGAL, CITIES AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT PUT INTO PLACE ZONING LAWS THAT HAD, ONE OF THE IMPACTS OF ZONING LAWS WAS TO MAKE HOUSING LESS ACCESSIBLE OR MORE EXPENSIVE.

SO THINGS LIKE REQUIRING LARGER LOT SIZES OR HAVING GARAGE, ATTACHED GARAGES, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS MAKE HOUSING MORE EXPENSIVE AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO GENERATIONAL WEATHER OR YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO LIVE IN A PLACE THAT HAS ACCESS TO JOB CENTERS OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN IT'S HARDER TO GET INTO THE SUBURBS.

SO WHEN MY GRANDPARENTS MOVED TO THE SUBURBS THEY WERE VERY AFFORDABLE MORE MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE AND THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE CASE IN ALL OF THE SUBURBS NOW IN THE TWIN CITIES, ESPECIALLY.

SO THAT HAS CREATED THESE BARRIERS THAT HAVE BEEN HARD TO OVERCOME.

>> Eric: AND REALLY IT HAS MADE THE DISPARITIES MAYBE EVEN WORSE THAN THEY WOULD BE OTHERWISE.

>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.

AND THERE ARE ALSO PUBLIC POLICIES KIND OF LAYERED ON TOP THAT EXACERBATE THOSE DISPARITIES.

THINGS LIKE HOW SCHOOLS ARE FUNDED OR WHERE WE PLANT TREES WHERE OUR PARKS ARE LOCATED.

SO IT'S ALL KIND OF A SYSTEM THAT'S INTERLOCKING AND WORKS TOGETHER AND PERPETUATES THOSE DISPARITIES.

>> Cathy: SO WHY IS IT IMPORTANT THEN FOR GOLDEN VALLEY, CRYSTAL, YOU KNOW, ANY OF THE UBURBS TO GET INVOLVED IN THIS?

IS IT HARD TO CONVINCE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS TO GET INVOLVED?

>> WE'VE HAD A REALLY GREAT RESPONSE FROM LOCAL GOVERNMENT.

WE NOW HAVE 21 GOVERNMENT MEMBERS OF JUST DEEDS, IN ADDITION TO HAVING A WHOLE BUNCH OF MEMBERS IN THE REAL ESTATE COMMUNITY AND ALSO RESEARCHERS AT EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS.

SO IT HASN'T BEEN HARD TO ATTRACT ATTENTION, BUT AND WE -- IT'S KIND F A BUILD YOUR OWN ADVENTURE.

EACH GOVERNMENT -- YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING SUPER FORMAL TO SIGN UP, BUT IT'S A PATH OF SELF-DISCOVERY FOR EACH COMMUNITY TO LOOK INTO THIS HISTORY AND HOW IT'S IMPACTED THEIR COMMUNITY AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO GET INVOLVED BECAUSE BY LEARNING ABOUT OUR HISTORY WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T REPEAT IT AND WE CAN DO THINGS DIFFERENTLY OING FORWARD AND, ENACT DIFFERENT POLICIES TO CREATE ACCESS AND RESOURCES AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALL MINNESOTANS.

>> Cathy: SO IF SOMEONE WANTS INFORMATION TO THEIR HOUSE IN HENNEPIN AND RAMSEY COUNTY CAN THEY GO TO YOUR WEBSITE?

>> YES, THEY CAN GO TO JUSTDEEDS ORGANIZE AND THERE'S AN INTERACTIONIVE MAP AND A SEARCH TOOL WHERE YOU CAN PUT YOUR ADDRESS IN AND IT WILL POP UP AND IT WILL SHOW IF YOUR HOUSE HAS A COVENANT AND IF IT DOES IT WILL SHOW YOU THE LANGUAGE.

>> Eric:, THANKS FOR COMING OVER.

NICE TO MEET YOU.

>> Cathy: AS I SAID JIM CROW OF THE NORTH STORIES PREMIERES MONDAY ON MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. DAY.

YOU CAN VIEW HE SERIES N YOUTUBE, FACEBOOK, OUR OUR WEBSITE.

♪♪ SO >> Eric: IN A LOYAL MORE THAN A WEEK FOLKS CAN START SUBMITTING THEIR TAXES AND JUST IN TIME.

THE LEGISLATURE PASSED BILL THAT ADDS FEDERAL TAX BREAKS TO STATE RETURNS.

THAT OFTEN DOESN'T HAPPEN UNTIL MUCH LATER IN A SESSION AND THAT FORCES MANY PEOPLE TO LATER FILE AMENDED TAX RETURNS.

AS MARY LAHAMMER SHOWS US THIS EARLY BIPARTISAN SUCCESS AT THE CAPITOL COULD SIGNAL A REAL RESET IN MINNESOTA POLITICS.

>> DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS STOOD SIDE SIDE BY SIDE IN ANTICIPATION.

ONLY THE GOVERNOR GETS THE HONOR.

>> IT IS A GOOD DAY FOR THE NAYSAYERS OR THE PRECIPICES, YES, WORK CAN GET DONE, YES, WORK CAN GET DONE COLLECTIVELY.

>> WALZ WAS SO EXCITED HE HAD TO BE REMINDED TO SIGN THE BILL.

>> DID YOU THINK I WASN'T GONNA DO IT?

[ LAUGHTER ] IT WAS A BAIT AND SWITCH!

THANK YOU, MARY.

YEAH.

THANK YOU, MARY.

>> GRATITUDE WAS GUSHING ALL AROUND AS THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE FIRST BILL OF THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION INTO LAW JUST DAYS AFTER CONVENING.

>> TO START A LEGISLATIVE SESSION AND TO BE LESS THAN 10 DAYS INTO THIS SESSION WITH ALL THE WORK THAT ASK HAS TO HAPPEN THIS IS A GREAT ACHIEVEMENT AND I THINK IT REALLY SPEAKS TO WHAT MINNESOTANS ARE SAYING.

JUST COME TOGETHER, FIND SOME COMPROMISES, GET SOME THINGS DONE.

>> FEDERAL TAX CONFORMITY DELIVERS TAX RELIEF JUST IN TIME FOR FILING.

>> A UNANIMOUS VOTE LIKE THAT DOESN'T COME ALONG A LOT AND IT DOESN'T COME ALONG WITHOUT SPECIAL WORK BY THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS IN EACH OF OUR CAUCUSES.

>> THE WORK WAS DONE BY NEW TAX CHAIRS AND NEW LEADERS IN EVERY SINGLE CAUCUS WHO ARE INSTANTLY SETTING A NEW TONE AFTER YEARS OF DIVISIVE GRIDLOCK.

>> I DO THINK IT RESETS HE DYNAMIC AND THAT'S NOT A PEJORATIVE AGAINST ANYONE WHO DID THESE JOBS BEFORE BUT IN ALL HUMAN INTERACTIONS THERE'S SOME DYNAMICS THAT HAPPEN, AND I JUST WANT TO SAY A GRATEFULNESS OF ALL F THE FOLKS INVOLVED IN THIS THAT IT APPEARS LIKE THEY'RE TRYING O GET THERE.

YOU AN DISAGREE STRONGLY WITHOUT BEING DISAGREEABLE AND I FEEL LIKE MAYBE THAT'S THE TONE THAT WE'RE GETTING.

THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO GREE WITH YOU ON THIS AND WE'RE GOING TO COME OUT.

I THINK THAT'S REALLY A HEALTHY PLACE TO BE.

>> THERE BEING 132 AYES AND 0 NAYS THE BILL IS PASSED AND ITS TITLE AGREED TO.

>> 67 AYES AND ZERO NAYS, THE BILL IS PASSED AND THE TITLE AGREED TO.

[ Banging Gavel ] >> THAT CHANGE DYNAMIC BROUGHT FAST ACTION AND UNANIMOUS PASSAGE IN BOTH CHAMBERS.

>> THIS WILL BE OVER $104 MILLION OF TAW RELIEF TO MINNESOTANS AT A TIME WHERE THEY MAY BE STRUGGLING THE MOST.

>> THE FIRST BILL TO GO TO THE GOVERNOR WITH STRONG BIPARTISAN SUPPORT.

>> WITH ONE PARTY CONTROL AT THE CAPITOL DEMOCRATS DIDN'T NEED REPUBLICAN VOTES BUT THEY GOT THEM, ALL OF THEM.

>> ALL OF THE OTHER CONFORMITY PIECES ARE REALLY GOING TO HELP THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF MINNESOTA.

I HOPE THAT BOARD LIGHTS UP AS GREEN AS IT CAN BE.

>> THERE WILL BE PLENTY OF THINGS FOR US TO FIGHT ABOUT LATER ON BUT I HOPE THIS IS A SIGN OF THINGS TO COME FOR THOSE ITEMS WE DO AGREE ON WE CAN ACT ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO ENACT THINGS FORMALLY AS SINGLE BILLS.

>> THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE HAS OBSERVATIONS OF WHAT THIS IRST BILL SIGNING MEANS.

>> WILL YOU TAKE SOME CREDIT?

>> VERY LITTLE.

THIS WAS A HUGE PRIORITY FOR GOVERNOR WALZ AND LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR FLANAGAN AND ALSO SENATE AND HOUSE LEADERSHIP.

>> WHAT ABOUT THE TONE THIS SETS AND THE SPEED, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HEARD LEADERS HERE AND HOW WELL THEY'RE GETTING ALONG.

IS THIS KIND OF A NEW ERA HERE?

>> I HOPE SO.

AND WHAT A GREAT WAY TO START THE SESSION.

YOU KNOW, YOU GET A TAX BILL THAT YOU CAN ALL AGREE ON, IT'S GOING TO GREATLY BENEFIT CITIZENS AROUND THE STATE.

AND LET'S HOPE IT'S KIND OF A SIGN OF THINGS TO COME.

AND WHEN YOU BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER WE CAN DO GREAT THINGS IN THIS STATE.

>> NOW MAYBE THIS IS ALL EASIER WITH ONE-PARTY CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT.

DEMOCRATS FROM HE TRIFECTA.

BUT YOU'VE BEEN HERE BEFORE WHEN THIS HAS HAPPENED.

WHAT HAS BEEN YOUR EXPERIENCE THERE?

>> YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT GOING ON, WITH THE INAUGURATION THE OTHER DAY GOVERNOR WALZ MADE IT HIS GOAL TO MAKE MINNESOTA THE NUMBER ONE STATE TO RAISE CHILDREN AND FAMILIES.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOING TO SET THE TONE FOR A LOT OF THINGS.

>> I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE GOT A COMMISSIONER THAT UNDERSTANDS THE LEGISLATURE REALLY WELL.

[ LAUGHTER ] IN THIS CASE JUST A LOT OF GOODWILL ALL THE WAY AROUND.

>> THE GOAL IS THAT THIS ISN'T JUST THE FIRST BUT THE IRST OF MOST BIPARTISAN BILL SIGNINGS TO COME WITH SO MANY NEW FACES QUICKLY COMING TOGETHER AT THE CAPITOL.

>> IT'S DONE.

CONGRATULATIONS.

[ APPLAUSE ] ♪♪ >> Eric: WE'RE TEN WEEKS INTO THE 2023 LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

THE GOVERNOR HAS SIGNED HIS FIRST BILL, THE LEGISLATURE HAS ALREADY HAD SOME LONG FLOOR SESSIONS.

HOW ARE THING GOING WITH ONE-PARTY CONTROL AT ALL LEVELS OF STATE GOVERNMENT?

LET'S ASK OUR COUCHFUL OF FORMER LAWMAKERS, REPUBLICANS FIRST, AMY KOCH, ARTY SIEFERT SERVEDS AS HOUSE MINORITY LEADER.

D.F.L.ERS TONIGHT JEFF HAYDEN, HOLDING DOWN THE FINAL SEAT ON THE COUCH FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE JEREMY KALIN.

SENATOR, ALL THAT'S MISSING IS SOME GUYS IN HE ROTUNDA PLAYING KUMBAYA ON A GUITAR.

WHAT'S GOIN' ON?

>> YEAH, IT FEELS GOOD OVER THERE, DOESN'T IT?

THERE WAS A LOT OF PENT UP DEMAND AND I THINK REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS AICK LIKE WANT TODAY ET TO WORK.

>> Eric: CAN THIS PACE BE SUSTAINED?

>> IT CAN'T BE SUSTAINED.

I MEAN, SO I THINK IT'S GREAT THAT THEY GOT THE TAX CONFORMITY OUT.

IT'S RECORD SPEED FOR THAT AND THAT'S VERY GOOD.

BUT THE DEMAND IS SO GREAT AND THE BILLS ARE SO LARGE THAT LITERALLY THE INFRASTRUCTURE OF JUST THE DRAFTING OF BILLS AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO SLOW THIS PROCESS DOWN.

AND NOT TO -- LIKE LOT OF THE BILLS THAT ARE HAPPENING WHETHER IT'S CANNABIS, PAID FAMILY LEAVE, THESE AREN'T BUDGET BILLS.

THE BIG BUDGET'S GOING TO HAVE TO BE SOLVED AND THAT IS A TON OF WORK AS HAVING SOMEONE WHO HAS PASSED, THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

>> TO PUT IT INTO PERSPECTIVE I SPOKE TO HE REVISOR AND HE SAID THERE WERE 2200 BILLS.

MY FIRST SESSION IN THE FIRST TWO YEARS WAS 2200 BILLS.

AND NOW IT'S LIKE WE'RE AT TWO WEEKS AND WE'RE AT 2200 BILLS AND A LOT OF THIS IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING LAST YEAR OTHER THAN THE AG BILL.

HE SAID PROBABLY 10% IS BONDING BILLS, ALL THESE LITTLE PROJECTS.

IF THEY HAD DONE THEIR BILLS LAST YEAR MAYBE A THIRD OF THESE BILLS NEVER WOULD GET INTRODUCED.

>> RIGHT, I THINK THERE'S BIG SUBSTANTIVE ISSUES THAT VOTERS WANTED PEOPLE TO DELIVER ON THAT AND THAT DEMOCRATS NEEDED TO GET DONE BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO, THINGS LIKE CANNABIS, ABORTION RIGHTS, THOSE ARE NOT SMALL BILLS, THAT YOU WANT TO GET RIGHT.

THERE WILL BE FIVE TO TEN OF THOSE BIG ISSUES, THE UNEMPLOYMENT ISSUE UP ON THE RANGE AND I THINK THE TEMPO WILL SLOW DOWN BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE STARTING TO AKE HARDER DECISIONS AROUND WHAT TO DO.

WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET CHALLENGE IN FRONT OF US, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A CHALLENGE OF SORT OF FIGURING OUT HOW DO YOU MAKE THESE PRIORITIES OF BOTH CATCH-UP IN INVESTING IN LONG-TERM STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE.

>> Cathy: TO YOUR POINT, I MEAN, THE BUDGET IS HUGE AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF WORK BUT THEN YOU HAVE THE CANNABIS BILL WHICH HAS TO GO THROUGH 12 MORE COMMITTEES IN THE HOUSE AND THERE'S NOT ANYTHING IN THE SENATE AT THIS POINT.

CAN THAT BOG DOWN THE WORKS?

>> RIGHT, WELL, THERE WILL HAVE TO BE LIKE A DECISION, RIGHT, ON THE PART OF LEADERSHIP.

THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DECIDE, OKAY, WE DID PROMISE THIS AND WE WILL GET IT DONE BUT THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MANAGE SOME EXPECTATIONS BECAUSE YOU JUST PHYSICALLY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE, ENOUGH HOURS IN THE DAY.

AND REMEMBER, A THIRD OF THIS LEGISLATURE IS NEW.

SO WHILE SOME OF THESE BILLS WERE HEARD LAST YEAR OR THE LAST COUPLE YEARS AND THEY COULD SAY THAT, A BUNCH OF PEOPLE ON THESE COMMITTEES HAVE NEVER HEARD THESE BILLS, HAVE NOT HAD TO WEIGH IN ON THESE BILLS AND SO THAT'S GOING TO ALSO -- ALSO, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU HAVE A DIVIDED, YOU PASS SOME BILLS THAT ARE MORE POLITICAL, RIGHT, YOU KIND OF PUSH THEM THROUGH BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE BELIEVE.

NOW THESE ARE ALL GOING TO BE PUT INTO LAW AND YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH HOW YOU ENACT THOSE.

>> I THINK INTERESTINGLY IT REMINDS ME LITTLE BIT OF MY FIRST SESSION 2007 WHERE WE DID THE NEXT GENERATION ENERGY ACT AND FIRST-TERM LEGISLATORS CARRYING THE SMOKING BAN AND BIG STUFF.

I THINK WE SHOULD JUST BE REALLY CAREFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, NOW WE'RE OLD OCODGERS BUT NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE ABILITY OF THESE NEW LEGISLATORS.

>> Eric: HOW MUCH OF A TAX CUT CAN DEMOCRATS SWALLOW?

>> IT'S GOING TO BE TOUGH, BUT IN THE SENATE IN PARTICULAR WITH A ONE PERSON IMAGINE AND NEW FOLKS FROM OUTSTATE MINNESOTA WHO CAMPAIGNED ON THIS, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO SWALLOW MORE THAN THEY WOULD LIKE IF THEY WANT TO GET THINGS DONE.

ONCE AGAIN, SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE NEW AND DO THEY KNOW HOW THE PLACE WORKS AND DO THEY UNDERSTAND THEIR POWER, MAYBE THERE'S A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE THERE FOR THEM.

BUT I'M REALLY CONFIDENT IN THE LEADERS THAT THEY'RE REALLY GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF HEAR THE BILLS, WORK THOSE UT AND I THINK SOME OF THE THIS STUFF IS GOING TO GET DONE.

>> Eric: ON THE ABORTION RIGHTS AMENDMENT, THAT SEEMS FAIRLY WIDE OPEN.

AND I WONDER IF THAT'S GOING TO NEED SOME RESTRICTIVE AMENDMENTS TO GET OFF THE FLOORS, OR IS IT GOING TO BE AS-IS, OR?

>> THAT'S TOUGH TO KNOW.

I, YOU KNOW, WHICH DEMOCRAT IS GOING TO STAND UP, THE TWO NOMINALLY PRO-LIFE DEMOCRATS N THE HOUSE BUT THEY DON'T NEED THEM BECAUSE THEY HAVE 70 SEATS SO THEY CAN PASS WHATEVER THEY WANT WITH 68 VOTES AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S GOING TO TAND UP AND SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO HOLD BACK HERE A LITTLE BIT ON GOING A LITTLE TOO FAR.

THERE SN'T ANYBODY LEFT SO MAYBE ON THE SENATE SIDE, BUT ON THE TAX STUFF, I THINK THEY HAVE TO DO THE SOCIAL SECURITY EXEMPTION AND MAYBE THE WALZ CHECKS AND THAT'S ABOUT IT.

I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE, MAYBE LEAVE SOME IN RESERVES ON THE ONE-TIME SIDE.

I THINK THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THEY KIND OF HAVE TO DO BECAUSE IT LOOKS A LITTLE BIT TOO GREEDY, THE AVERAGE TAXPAYER DOESN'T GET SOMETHING BACK THAT'S NOTICEABLE.

>> I'LL SAY TWO HINGS.

SENATOR REST IS FULLY IN CONTROL OF THAT TAX BILL.

AND I THINK THAT SHE IS PERSUASIVE ENOUGH TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT IS THE RIGHT LINE ON THE TAX BILL.

SO I REALLY TRUST THAT.

THE OTHER THING IS I THINK THAT IF THERE RE GOING TO BE SOME CHANGES TO THE, YOU KNOW, ABORTION BILL OR THE PRO-LIFE BILL OR THE PRO-CHOICE BILL THEN I THINK THAT THAT GETS DONE BEHIND THE SCENES.

I THINK THAT THERE'S NEW LEADERSHIP, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATION AND IN BOTH CAUCUSES.

THE LEADERS THERE ARE VERY COMMUNICATIVE IN THE WAY THEY APPROACH THINGS SO I THINK THAT YOU'LL SEE A LOT DIFFERENT TENOR.

THE OTHER THING I'LL SAY IS THAT THE LEADERS ARE WORKER BEES AND THEY WERE KNOWN TO BE WORKER BEES.

SPEAKER HORTMAN WAS KNOWN TO BE A WORKER BEE, SENATOR DZIEDZIC WAS KNOWN TO BE A WORKER BEE AND YOU'RE SEEING PEOPLE ACTUALLY GOING TO WORK AND I THINK AT THAT POINT THEY HAVE TO STEP BACK BECAUSE THEY GET SO TIRED BUT YOU'RE REALLY SEEING A GROUP OF LEADERS WHO LIKE TO WORK.

>> Cathy: WHAT DO Y'ALL THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA, WE JUST TALKED TO MYRON FRANS, THEY WANTS TO BUY BACK THE MEDICAL CENTER, THAT'S GOING TO COST A TON OF DOUGH AND THE LEGISLATURE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE TERRIBLY HAPPY WITH THE U OF M. >> I THINK IT'S TOUGH, IT'S A BIG LIFT AND TOO MUCH MONEY.

THAT'S BIPARTISAN, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE QUESTIONS ON THAT, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A HARD TIME.

THAT'S JUST MY OPINION.

>> I REMEMBER WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE REGIONS CONVERSATION BEFORE THE LIGHT WENT RED AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE'S SO MUCH UNHAPPINESS ABOUT THE RISING COST OF EDUCATION BROADLY.

AND THAT THE UNIVERSITY OF MINNESOTA AND THE STATE COLLEGE SYSTEMS SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON INSTRUCTION AND TEACHING.

AND IT'S HARD TO SAY AS TUITION KEEPS RISING THAT EVEN IF FROM AN ENTERPRISE PERSPECTIVE IT MAKES A BOATLOAD OF SENSE, THAT'S A TOUGH ASK TO ASK.

>> LET ME SAY THIS, IT'S STILL ABOUT HEALTH CARE AND HEALTH CARE COSTS RISING AND PROVIDERS ARE HAVING TROUBLE ALL THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM.

SO I DON'T WANT US TO MISS THIS ISSUE WITH THE REVIEW AND NOT FIGURE OUT THIS ISSUE ABOUT THEY ARE A HEALTH CARE PROVIDER AND THEY'RE LOSING MONEY ALL OVER THE SYSTEM.

>> Eric: SENATOR COCH, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD THERE WAS A LOT OF GRUMBLING ABOUT SHERIFF HUTCHINSON GETTING A JOB WITH METRO TRANSIT.

>> I THINK MET COUNCIL IS GOING TO BE A HOT ISSUE.

AND IT HAS BEEN.

REPUBLICANS FOR YEARS HAVE BEEN SAYING YOU HAVE THIS COMPLETELY UNELECTED BILLION-DOLLAR BUDGET FOR TAXING AUTHORITY IN THIS LIKE MIDDLE-GOVERNMENT AGENCY, AND SO YOU HAVE ACTUALLY DEMOCRATS THAT HAVE COME FORWARD AND SAID WE NEED SOME REFORMS.

THEY SHOULD BE ELECTED, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE THESE BIG PROJECTS, YOU SEE LIKE THEIR CORE COMPETENCY WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE TRANSPORTATION.

THEY'VE BEEN HANDED ALL THESE EXTRA DUTIES OR AKEN EXTRA DUTIES.

I THINK IT'S TIME TO LOOK.

AND BY THE WAY HUTCHINSON THING FOR FOUR YEARS AS ARE YOU SHERIFF GOES BACK TO A JOB THAT GAVE HIM A RAISE AFTER BEING VOTED BY THE COUNTY BOARD -- HE WAS CENSURED BY THE COUNTY BOARD AND HAD THAT WHOLE INCIDENT WITH DRIVING, YOU KNOW, INTOXICATED, HASN'T REALLY WORKED THE LAST YEAR TENURE AS HENNEPIN COUNTY SHERIFF AND THE MEDICAL COUNCIL JUST GAVE HIM A BIG RAISE.

>> RICH STANEK DID THE SAME THING WHEN HE WAS VOTED OUT.

I DON'T WANT TO CONFLATE ISSUES WITH THE MET COUNCIL HICH HAS TROUBLE, BUT WHEN YOU LEAVE ONE OF THOSE LAW ENFORCEMENT BODIES THAT YOU GET YOUR JOB BACK.

>> I AGREE, BUT IT'S BAD NEWS FOR MET COUNCIL BECAUSE THEY'RE GOING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

>> THE GOVERNOR WAS ON LAST WEEK AND HE INTIMATED THAT HE WOULD LOOK AT SCHOOL FUNDING TIED TO INFLATION.

IF MEMORY SERVES ME WE TRIED TO TIE THE GAS TAX TO INFLATION, THAT DIDN'T WORK, DID IT?

>> WELL, I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE HEARD FROM THE GOVERNOR AND THE CAMPAIGNS AND THE MAJORITY NOW, WE'RE GOING TO FULLY FUND EDUCATION.

AND FOR DECADES AND DECADES AS A REPUBLICAN I HAVE WAITED, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO FULLY FUND EDUCATION?

YOU KNOW, IF I WAS MINORITY LEADER AT THE BIG MICROPHONE I WOULD ASK A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.

[ LAUGHTER ] OF THE MEMBERS ON THE OTHER SIDE.

DOES THIS BILL FULLY FUND EDUCATION?

BECAUSE YOU PROMISED WE'RE GOING TO FULLY FUND EDUCATION.

SO THERE SHOULD NOT BE ONE TEACHER LAYOFF, ONE STAFF LAYOFF, ONE COOK, ONE BUS DRIVER, ONE JANITOR LAID OFF IN THE NEXT TWO YEARS BECAUSE IT WAS PROMISED WE'RE GOING TO FULLY FUND EDUCATION.

SO IF THE GOVERNOR GETS THAT, IT WILL BE A BIG OBLIGATION ON THE BUDGET BECAUSE AMY, ALL OF US KNOW, YOU ADD INFLATION ONTO THE BUDGET FOR EDUCATION ON THE FORMULA, YOU'RE TALKING BILLIONS PROBABLY OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS.

>> Eric: BUT I ASSUME THAT EDUCATION MINNESOTA AND ITS ALLIES WILL BE SERVED.

>> OH, I THINK THERE'S NO QUESTION, I THINK THAT VOTERS AND THE PEOPLE OF MINNESOTA EXPECT THAT WE SHOULD DO WHAT WE DO, WHICH IS FUND OUR SCHOOLS AND INVEST IN EDUCATION.

THE DETAILS NEED TO GET WORKED OUT.

[ LAUGHTER ] I THINK -- >> FULLY FUNDED, JEREMY.

>> I DIDN'T SAY FULLY, I SAID FUND EDUCATION.

>> Eric: FULLY INFORMED AND READY TO VOTE.

THANKS, PANEL.

>> Cathy: NICE WORK.

NICE WORK.

♪♪ >> Cathy: KIDS, IT'S INDEX FILE TIME SO WE'RE GOING TO JUMP RIGHT IN.

THE FIRST TIME WE ASKED THIS QUESTION LAST MONTH THE PRODUCERS TRIED TO BE A LITTLE TRICKY AND NO ONE GOT IT RIGHT.

SO WE ASKED IT A SECOND TIME.

HERE'S MOST OF THE INFO WE GAVE YOU IN THOSE TWO WEEKS.

IN AUGUST OF 1960 A PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE WAS INVOLVED IN AN INCIDENT ON A CHICAGO FIELD THAT WOULD NOT BE RESOLVED UNTIL NEARLY A DECADE LATER WHEN THEY'RE LIVING IN THE TWIN CITIES AND A COURT ORDERS THEM TO PAY A $10,000 FINE.

YOUR TASK WAS TO TELL US WHAT A FUTURE MINNESOTAN DID IN 1960 TO LEAD TO A HEFTY $10,000 FINE.

NOW IS THE TIME WHEN WE USUALLY PLAY THE WRONG ANSWERS BUT 99.9% OF YOU GOT THIS WRONG THE SECOND IME.

SO HERE'S A VERY NICE SAMPLE OF CORRECT ANSWERS.

TAKE A LISTEN.

>> BILLY'S FACE WAS RED.

HIS EYE WAS BLUE.

BET HE DIDN'T LIKE THE BEAN BALL AND THREW HIS BAT TOO.

MARTIN, FOLKS.

>> THIS IS LEE IN ST. LOUIS PARK.

AND I THINK THIS WEEK YOU GAVE US TOO MUCH INFORMATION, THERE'S GOING TO BE A TON OF US THAT PROBABLY HAVE HIS ANSWER WHICH I THINK IS CORRECT NAMELY BILLY MARTIN OF THE MINNESOTA TWINS.

>> HI, THIS IS KATIE CALLING FROM BLACKDUCK, I THINK TONIGHT'S MYSTERY PERSON IS BASEBALL PLAYER MANAGER BILLY MARTIN.

>> HI, I'M CHARLIE FROM MOORHEAD, 'M ALMOST WORLD FAMOUS FOR COMING UP WITH WRONG ANSWERS BUT I'M PRETTY SURE I HAVE THIS ONE.

I'M PRETTY SURE BILLY MARTIN SUCKER PUNCHED JIM BREWER.

JIM BREWER ENDED UP NOT BEING ABLE TO PLAY THE REST OF THE SEASON AND HE SUED BILLY.

I DID NOT KNOW IT WASN'T SETTLED UNTIL 1 THE 69 WHEN BILLY WAS THE MANAGER OF THE TWINS.

IT'S GOTTA BE BILLY MARTIN?

THANK YOU.

>> YES, YES, AND YES!

THANK YOU FOR ALL THOSE FINE DETAILS, CHARLIE.

WE HAVE NOTHING MORE TO ADD OTHER THAN THIS OLD PHOTO.

WOW, OW.

WE HAVE JUST ENOUGH TIME FOR SOME SHOW-CLOSING MUSIC.

IT WAS 40 YEARS AGO TODAY THAT BUTCH THOMPSON AND CLAUDIA SCHMIDT APPEARED ON THE OLD K.T.C.A.

NIGHTTIMES VARIETY SHOW, WHICH WAS A FANTASTIC SHOW BY THE WAY.

TAKE A LISTEN.

WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEEK.

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