HERE'S THE RUNDOWN TONIGHT FOR IVORY TOWER - THE WAR IN UKRAINE, THE NEW BUDGET IN ALBANY AND DIFFERENCES IN FAMILY LIVING.

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♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ WELCOME TO IVORY TOWER.

I'M BARBARA FOUGHT FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY.

JOINING ME TONIGHT ON THE PANEL ARE: KRISTI ANDERSEN, FROM SYRACUSE UNIVERSITY, RICK FENNER, FROM UTICA UNIVERSITY, ANIRBAN ACHARYA, FROM LEMOYNE COLLEGE AND NINA MOORE, FROM COLGATE UNIVERSITY.

WE HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE UKRAINE IN A COUPLE WEEKS.

AND THIS WEEK WE SEE THE HORRIFIC PHOTOS OF THE MASSACRE AT BUCHA --A CIVILIAN KILLED RIDING A BIKE, OTHERS WITH BOUND HANDS, SHOT-EXECUTION-STYLE.

ANIRBAN, I'M WONDERING, WILL PUTIN AND THE MILITARY EVER STAND TRIAL AS WAR CRIMINALS?

>> WELL, I MEAN THIS IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION.

SO I SEE ICC PERSECUTES INDIVIDUALS AND THEY HAVE THE MANDATE TO PERSECUTE CRIMES, FOR EXAMPLE, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, GENOCIDE... >> INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT.

>> INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT, YES.

IT WAS ESTABLISHED IN 1998 AND I THINK AT PRESENT IT HAS SOMETHING NORTH OF 120 STATE PARTIES AND ACCEPTED THE JURISDICTION OF THE ICC AND ICC CAN BRING INDIVIDUALS AND NOT STATES OR GROUPS TO TRIAL BASED ON WAR CRIMES, CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, GENOCIDE AND CRIMES OF AGGRESSION.

NOW KAREEM KAHN WHO-- UKRAINE IS NOT A STATE PARTY BUT ACCEPTED THE JURISDICTION OF ICC SO ICC CAN AND WILL AND HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING THESE KIND OF WAR CRIMES, MAINLY WAR CRIMES AND CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY, DEPORTATION, INTENTIONAL ATTACK ON CIVILIAN POPULATION.

BUT HERE IS THE THING, RIGHT?

ICC CANNOT TRY ANYONE IN ABSENTIA.

SO THESE KINDS OF INVESTIGATIONS TAKE A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.

SO THE FIRST THE PROSECUTOR HAS TO GO WITH HIS TEAM AND FIND OUT WHETHER THIS CRIME HAS HAPPENED OR NOT.

WHAT ARE THE FACTS ON THE GROUND.

WHO SHOULD BE PROSECUTED AND HOW CAN YOU KIND OF HOLD SOMEONE CULL PANEL DIRECTLY FOR CERTAIN ORDERS AND SUCH.

THAT WOULD TAKE A REALLY LONG TIME THE SHORT ANSWER IS YES, PUTIN COULD BE TRIED BUT I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING RIGHT AWAY.

IT COULD TAKE A VERY LONG TIME AND PERHAPS THERE WOULD HAVE TO BE A REGIME CHANGE IN RUSSIA FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

>> I DON'T SEE IT HAPPENING WITHIN THE ICC, NOR ANY OF THE OTHER COURTS BECAUSE, IN FACT, THERE IS NO SHORTAGE OF COURTS.

THERE IS THE COURT OF JUSTICE AT HAGUE, THE EUROPEAN HUMAN RIGHTS COURT BUT ALSO INDIVIDUAL NATIONS ARE EMPOWERED UNDER INTERNATIONAL LAW TO PROSECUTE INDIVIDUALS ON BEHALF OF ALL OF HUMAN MANKIND.

I THINK THE ISSUE IS LESS SO THE COURT THAN IT IS THE LACK OF REAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS.

IT'S SORT OF LIKE YOU CAN PROSECUTE PUTIN IN SOME CASES IN ABSENTIA.

YOU CAN LEVY PENALTIES.

BUT THEN WHO IS GOING TO ACTUALLY ARREST PUTIN, RIGHT?

>> SO-- >> WHO IS GOING TO TAKE ANY USE OF FORCE WITH RUSSIA AS OCCURRED WITH IRAQ IN 1990 AND KUWAIT AND 1950 WITH NORTH KOREA AND SOUTH KOREA.

THAT'S THE ISSUE.

NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE HE'S GOT OR RUSSIA HAS VETO POWER ON THE SECURITY COUNCIL, BUT BECAUSE THIS IS SOMEONE WHO HAS NUCLEAR CAPABILITY AND HAS RECENTLY SIGNALED HIS WILLINGNESS TO USE IT.

>> YEAH, SO, YOU KNOW, IT IS DIFFICULT, AGAIN, TO PUT TO TO BRING PUTIN TO TRIAL.

BUT IT MIGHT BE THE CASE IF PUTIN GOES TO ANY ONE OF THE COUNTRIES-- AND THIS IS SUBSEQUENT TO AN ARREST WARRANT THAT HAS BEEN ISSUED BY THE INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL COURT.

SUBSEQUENT TO THAT, YES, ANY INDIVIDUAL WHO-- AND ICC DOESN'T CARE IF YOU ARE IN POWER OR NOT.

CHARLES TAYLOR BEING THE CASE IN LIBERIA.

BUT YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS DIFFICULT TO BRING ICC TRIALS AND YOU KNOW, THERE HAS BEEN CRITICISM THAT WHY ISN'T AMERICA BEING TRIED FOR WAR CRIME AND THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER, YOU KNOW, TOPIC TO DISCUSS.

BUT, YES, IF PUTIN CANNOT BE ARRESTED, CANNOT BE CALLED TO TRIAL.

ICC DOESN'T DO ABSENTIA TRIALS.

>> COULD HAVE INDIVIDUAL MEMBERS OF THE RUSSIAN MILITARY... >> ICC DOES NOT DISCRIMINATE.

THE IDEA WAS THAT NOBODY SHOULD HAVE IMPUNITY AND THEY'RE VERY SERIOUS ABOUT IT AND THEY'RE AN INDEPENDENT BODY.

THEY'RE NOT BEHOLDEN TO THE U.N. >> BUT DOES NIP THINK THAT-- DOES ANYONE THINK THAT IF THE FINDINGS COME AND ARE CHARGED, IT WILL HAVE AN IMPACT ON HOW QUICKLY THIS CONFLICT ENDS?

I JUST SEE THAT WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS UNLIKELY TO BRING ABOUT AN END THAT WE ARE HOPEFUL FOR.

>> THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WHETHER IT'S THE NUREMBURG TRIALS OR THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NEVER THE END TO THINGS.

THEY'RE MUCH LATER TRYING TO SORT THINGS OUT AND ASSIGN BLAME AND SO FORTH.

>> I THINK IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, BIDEN IS RIGHT IN THAT HE HAS SORT OF SENSED WE ARE IN THIS FOR THE LONG HAUL, RIGHT?

THIS IS A MARATHON, NOT A SPRINT, AND IT WILL NOT BE THROUGH MILITARY FORCE, BUT RATHER THROUGH LEVERAGING THE ECONOMIC SANCTIONSES THROUGH BOTH RUSSIA, A NATION STATE AND THE OLIGARCHS AND SORRY, THERE IS MY PEN-- MILITARY OFFICIALS WHO HAVE AN INTEREST IN KEEPING HIM IN POWER.

AND SO I THINK HE HAS GOT TO BE ICE-- ISOLATED OVER TIME POLITICALLY AND ECONOMICALLY.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE.

THAT'S WHY I WONDER WHETHER WE ARE SUING ENERGY HERE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, TRYING PEOPLE ON WAR CRIMES RATHER THAN FOCUSING OUR ATTENTION ON, AS YOU SAID, THE ECONOMIC SANCTIONS AND PERHAPS MOST IMPORTANTLY, TRYING TO WORK BEHIND THE SCENES AND GET CHINA TO INTERVENE AND CONVINCE PUTIN THAT THE TIME IS TO END THIS WAR.

>> WHAT DO YOU THINK STILL COULD BE DONE NOW BECAUSE THESE TRIALS WOULD BE LONG FAR IN THE DISTANT.

COULD THINGS BE DONE NOW TO GET PUTIN'S ATTENTION.

>> ABOUT THE ATROCITIES?

>> YEAH.

>> THE NEWSPAPERS AND OTHER INVESTIGATORY PEOPLE CAN POINT TO THESE, CAN DESCRIBE THEM, CAN MAKE US OUTRAGED, AND THAT'S GOING TO KEEP HAPPENING AND THAT'S GOOD.

BUT I AGREE WITH NINA, WAS WE SHOULD BE DOING, IN ADDITION TO THAT.

>> OKAY.

WELL, LET'S TURN TO OUR SECOND TOPIC.

A FEW WEEKS AGO WE ANALYZED THE ROLE OF OUR NEW GOVERNOR--- KATHY HOCHUL ---AND IT WAS LARGELY POSITIVE.

BUT PAST TWO WEEKS SHE COULDN'T SEW UP THE BUDGET IN TIME.

WE HAVE A CONCEPTUAL FRAMEWORK.

WE ARE RECORDING THIS FRIDAY MORNING.

WE HAVE TO SEE WHAT THE LEGISLATURE DOES IN VOTING.

WHY DID IT TAKE EXTRA TIME FOR THIS NEW GOVERNOR?

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I THINK THEY WERE TRYING TO COME TOGETHER, NOT ONLY ON BUDGET, BUT A NUMBER OF POLICY ISSUES AS WELL.

I WOULD LIKE TO TALK JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE BUDGET DEAL AND WHETHER I THINK IT'S A GOOD THING OR NOT.

I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE TRY TO EVALUATE THIS BUDGET DEAL THAT WE REMEMBER WHAT THINGS WERE LIKE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.

DESPITE A VERY STRONG NATIONAL ECONOMY, NEW YORK STATE WAS IN A FINANCIAL MESS.

WE WERE FACING VERY LARGE BUDGET DEFICITS, AND WE WERE FACING SOME DRACONIAN CUTS TO PROGRAMS IN ORDER TO GET OUR FINANCIAL HOUSE IN ORDER.

IRONICALLY, THE PANDEMIC CAME ALONG AND THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PUMPED ABOUT $ 250 BILLION OR SO INTO THE NEW YORK ECONOMY THROUGH STIMULUS AND PANDEMIC RELIEF.

AND SO WE ARE NOW IN A SITUATION WHERE WE'VE REALLY GOTTEN A BUDGET REPRIEVE, IF YOU WILL.

NEW YORK, LIKE MANY STATES, IS AWASH IN CASH.

AND THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS.

THE CAUTIONARY SIDE OF IT IS THE REVENUE STREAM ISN'T GOING TO LAST SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT THE BUDGET IN TERMS OF WHETHER THIS DEAL IS SUSTAINABLE AND AS YOU SAID, THE GOVERNOR'S ORIGINAL PROPOSAL I THINK WAS VERY STRONG.

SHE CALLED FOR A RESERVE FUND OF ABOUT 15% OF THE BUDGET AND TRIED TO INCORPORATE AS MANY ONE-TIME EXPENDITURES RATHER THAN RECURRING EXPENDITURES, IN TERMS OF DEALING WITH THE SHORTAGE OF HEALTHCARE WORKERS, INSTEAD OF PROPOSING INCREASES IN BAIDGES, SHE PROPOSED A BONE-- IN WAGES, SHE PROPOSED BONUSES.

I THINK THAT WAS VERY SMART.

LOOKING AT THE DEAL THAT WAS AGREED TO, SHE GOT SOME AND GAVE SOME.

SHE IS GOING GET THE 15% RESERVE WHICH IS GOING TO HELP US, ESPECIALLY IF THE ECONOMY STARTS TO FLAG IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO.

BUT SHE GAVE UP IN TERMS OF ABOUT $4 BILLION MORE THAN SHE WAS ASKING, $220 BILLION AND SHE GAVE IN ALSO ON THINGS LIKES WAGES FOR HOME CARE WORKERS.

I'M-- HEALTHCARE WORKERS.

I'M NOT SAYING THEY DON'T DESERVE HIGHER WAGES BUT THE MONEY WOULD HAVE TO COME SOMEWHERE OTHER THAN CONTINUED HELP FROM THE STATE.

>> WELL HELP FROM THE STATE BUT ALSO-- >> FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

>> THAT'S WAS I WAS GOING TO SAY, YEAH THAT'S SORT OF WHAT THANKS THIS, CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THIS A ONE OFF.

BUT AGAIN, TO THE GOVERNOR'S CREDIT, SHE, AS YOU SAY, GOING TO PUT QUITE A BIT OF THIS INTO THE RESERVE AND THAT'S UP FROM 4%.

AND BECAUSE OF THE COMPROMISES THAT YOU MENTIONED, WHICH ARE NECESSARY.

THAT'S JUST PART OF HOW YOU DO GORNANCE, BUT I THINK-- GOVERNANCE BUT THE END RESULT IS THAT SHE HAS BLOWN THIS UP A BIT MORE THAN I THINK IS JUSTIFIABLE BY CALLING IT A BOLD VISION.

WHAT I SEE IN THE BUDGET IS THE USUAL THAT WOULD YOU EXPECT.

I DON'T WANT TO SAY THERE IS NOTHING TO SEE HERE FOLKS BECAUSE I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING HERE.

BUT IT'S THE USUAL LIBERAL POLICIES THAT YOU WOULD EXPECT FROM NEW YORK.

HAVING SAID THAT, THOUGH, I THINK A LOT OF THESE POLICIES SMACK OF THE KIND OF REPRESENTATIVENESS THAT I AT LEAST HAVE BASHED LIBERALS AND PROGRESSIVE FOR DROPPING THE BALL ON.

THERE IS A 16-CENT SUPPLEMENT AT THE GAS PUMP.

IT IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A LOT OF DIFFERENCE BUT IT'S THE WAY OF SAYING AS CLINTON USED TO SAY ALL THE TIME.

I HEAR YOU AND I FEEL YOUR PAIN.

REMARKABLE TO ME, AT LEAST THE ONE BOLD ASPECT OF THIS IS EXPANDING CHILD CARE TO THE POINT THAT NEARLY HALF OF THE PERTINENT POPULATION WILL BE COVERED.

AND, OF COURSE, THE TAX CUTS FOR THE MIDDLE-CLASS.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE QUICK BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO BE HUGE, BUT AGAIN IT'S A WAY OF SAYING TO VOTERS, WE HEAR YOU AND WE ARE TRYING TO DO SOMETHING.

THE SAME WITH BAIL REFORM.

>> YOU ARE DESCRIBING GOOD POLITICIAN WHO IS UP FOR REELECTION THIS YEAR AND THAT'S HOW SHE IS ACTING, NOT SURPRISINGLY.

>> YEAH.

>> KRISTI, I'M THINKING THAT I KNOW A BUDGET IS A DOCUMENT THAT SETS OUT PRIORITIES.

BUT THIS KIND OF SEEMS BACKWARDS TO ME ME AND SO MANY POLICIES ARE BEING DECIDED IN THE BUDGET RATHER THE LEGISLATURE AND ITS DISCUSSION.

>> I AGREE AND I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON STATE POLITICS AT ALL BUT I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT NEW YORK GOT INTO THIS BUDGET MESS EVERY YEAR IN PART BECAUSE THE LEGISLATURE TENDS TO THROW POLICY ARGUMENTS INTO THE BUDGET ARGUMENTS.

THEY'RE ARGUING ABOUT BAIL REFORM, WHICH IS REALLY-- AND OTHER CRIMINAL JUSTICE REFORMS, FOR EXAMPLE, RIGHT NOW, AS THEY'RE DOING THE BUDGET RATHER THAN I THINK MOST LEGISLATURES DO IT, HASH THAT OUT, ARGUE ABOUT BALL REFORM OR WHATEVER, COME UP WITH A PLAN THAT MAY HAVE BUDGET IMPLICATIONS, YOU KNOW, MORE SERVICES FOR PEOPLE WHO-- OR MORE PEOPLE KEEPING AN EYE ON PEOPLE WHO ARE LET OUT OF JAIL OR WHATEVER, NOT PUT IN EXPWRAIL.

AND THEN IN THE BUDGET NEGOTIATIONS, YOU FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY FOR WHATEVER POLICIES YOU HAVE PASSED.

NEW YORK MUSHES THIS ALL TOGETHER.

AND I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIND OUT AND HAVEN'T SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON IT, THE EXTENT TO WHICH NEW YORK IS UNIQUE IN THAT WAY.

>> I ALSO FOUND THAT KIND OF CONFUSING LIKE CONFLATING THE LAWS IN THE BUDGET.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT IS UNIQUE.

I HAVE TO READ UP ON THAT.

ONE GOOD THING IS THAT THERE IS A PROPOSAL FOR GIVING A $3 RAISE PER HOUR FOR HOME CARE AIDES AND I FELT THAT WAS AN ENLIGHTENED POLICY, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT I'M KIND OF DISAPPOINTED BY THE MASSIVE AMOUNT OF TAXPAYER MONEY THAT WILL BE GOING FOR STADIUM WHOSE OWNERS ARE TREMENDOUSLY RICH.

BUT THERE IS ALSO GOOD NEWS ABOUT THE TAKEOUT ALCOHOL SO I GUESS PEOPLE CAN GET INEBRIATED AND WATCH A LOT OF SPORTS WHICH IS A POP LAWS MOVE ON HER PART.

>> APPARENTLY THAT'S A VERY IMPORTANT THING TO HAVE HAPPENED.

I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE SEEN SOME OTHER THINGS GIVEN GREATER EMPHASIS THAN THEY WERE JUST AS GREATER INVESTMENT IN EDUCATION, GREATER INVESTMENTS IN URBAN DEVELOPMENT.

AND AT LEAST SOME AMENDMENT TO THE PROPERTY TAX CAP.

BUT TO YOUR POINT, BARB, IT'S THE NATURE OF THE BEAST THAT LEGISLATURES WILL ALL SAY THAT THEY WANT TO GO TO HEAVEN.

THEY'LL AUTHORIZE ALL OF THESE THINGS THAT THEY WANT TO DO, SOLVE POVERTY, AND THE WHOLE SHEBANG BUT THEN THEY DON'T WANT TO DIE.

THEY DON'T WANT TO PUT THE MONEY BEHIND IT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

>> LET ME MOVE US TO OUR LAST TOPIC.

THERE IS A SHIFT IN HOW WE HAVE BEEN LIVING.

MY FAMILY GOES BACK AT LEAST FOUR GENERATIONS IN A SMALL OHIO TOWN BUT MY SIBLINGS AND THEN THE NEXT GENERATION, WE DON'T LIVE ANYWHERE NEAR EACH OTHER.

BUT A NEW REPORT FROM THE PEW CENTER SAYS THERE REALLY IS AN INCREASE IN PEOPLE LIVING IN MULTIGENERATIONAL HOUSEHOLDS.

FOUR TIMES AS MANY AS BACK IN THE 70s WHEN I LEFT HOME.

KRISTI, HOW COME THIS INCREASE?

>> WELL, THERE ARE A COUPLE OF LAYERS TO THIS.

ONE THING THAT ALLOWS THIS TO HAPPEN IS THAT PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE MUCH LESS MOBILE THAN THEY USED TO BE.

AND THIS HAS BEEN HAPPENING, I MEAN FOR, I DON'T KNOW 40 YEARS OR SO, THAT THE EXTENT TO WHICH PEOPLE MOVE AWAY, FAR AWAY FROM WHERE THEY STARTED IS MUCH, MUCH LOWER THAN IT USED TO BE.

AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THIS LIKE HOUSING COSTS, LIKE THE FACT THE RISING NUMBER OF DUAL CAREER FAMILIES, WHICH MAKES IT MORE DIFFICULT TO JUST MOVE BECAUSE OF A JOB.

YOU HAVE TWO JOBS TO CONSIDER.

COMPANIES ARE NOW LESS LIKELY TO FUND MOVING SO IF THEY WANT TO YOU MOVE, YOU ARE NOT GOING TO GET MANY BENEFITS FROM THAT.

THEREFORE, MORE PEOPLE ARE STILL IN THE SOSH IT OF THEIR PARENTS-- IN THE ORBIT OF THEIR PARENTS.

I THINK ALSO THE TWO CAREER FAMILY THING IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT IF BOTH-- IF A HUSBAND AND WIFE ARE WORKING, THEY NEED CHILD CARE.

PARENTS ARE THERE TO GIVE IT AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT-- BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THE HOUSING COSTS ARE A BIG PART OF THIS, I THINK.

BOTH ENCOURAGING PEOPLE NOT TO LEAVE WHERE THEY ARE AND NOT TO INVEST IN A HOUSE SOMEWHERE ELSE BUT ALSO IN THE ACTUAL LIVING TOGETHER MULTIGENERATIONALLY.

>> GOOD POINT ON THE COST BUT IT'S ALSO THEIR ABILITY TO PAY.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE SEEN FOR DECADES THAT WAGES HAVE BEEN STAGNANT FOR MILLIONS OF AMERICANS.

AND SO THEIR ABILITY TO PAY FOR THIS ADDITIONAL HOUSING IS DOWN.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK SOME PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING THIS MULTIGENERATIONAL FAMILY CONFIGURATION OUT OF CHOICE.

OTHERS ARE DOING IT OUT OF NECESSITY.

SO IN ADDITION TO WAGES, ONE THING THAT HAS BEEN WORKING IN ITS FAVOR ALSO THOUGH IN TERMS OF THE HOUSING, IS HOUSES TODAY ARE ABOUT TWICE AS LARGE AS THEY WERE IN THE 70s AND 60s SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR MULTIGENERATIONS TO LIVE WITHIN THE SAME DWELLING.

>> THOSE ARE GOOD POINTS.

THE STAGNATION OF WAGES IS VERY IMPORTANT.

AND I HADN'T THOUGHT ABOUT THE BIGGER HOUSES, BUT YES.

>> WHEN WE DECIDED TO TALK ABOUT THIS, AND I WAS DOING SOME OF THE BACKGROUND RESEARCH, I WAS THINKING, I'M STILL LOOKING FOR WHAT IS NEW HERE AS FAR AS THE BLACK FAMILY IS CONCERNED BECAUSE OF THE GENERATIONAL EFFECTS OF SLAVERY, THERE HAS ALWAYS BEEN EXTENDED FAMILIES LIVING WITHIN THE HOUSEHOLD, MULTI--GENERATIONAL FAMILIES, THE GRAND PARENTS AND SO SFORTSDZ AND FOR PRECISELY THE REASON THAT RICK POINTED OUT, BOTH FINANCIAL BUT ALSO THE OTHER ELEMENT IS CHILD CARE.

SO THE NUCLEAR FAMILY CONCEPT HAS NEVER BEEN AS, YOU KNOW, READILY APPLICABLE TO THE BLACK FAMILY AS IT HAS BEEN FOR OTHER... >> I WOULD SAY THE SAME THING ABOUT IMMIGRANT FAMILIES.

>> THAT PANS OUT ABOUT IMMIGRANT FAMILIES.

PEW DID THE RESEARCH AND FOUND OUT THE TREND IS MORE AMONG IMMIGRANT AND BLACK FAMILIES.

I GREW UP IN A MULTI--GENERATIONAL FAMILY WITH THREE GENERATIONS.

25 TO 29 YEAR OLDS LIVING WITH OTHER, YOU KNOW, GENERATIONS.

I AGREE WITH THAT, YOU KNOW, LACK OF RISING WAGES.

I THINK STUDENT LOANS, DAYCARE, THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DRIVING THIS AND THE PANDEMIC, THE RECENT DATA SHOWS THE PANDEMIC GIVES THE BIGGEST BOOST.

BUT I THINK THE TREND IS NOT JUST OUT OF NECESSITY, BUT ALSO PEOPLE FINDING CONNECTIONS.

A SURVEY SHOWED OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SAID IT WAS A POSITIVE AND QUITE LIKEABLE EXPERIENCE AND THIS HAS BEEN THE EXPERIENCE FOR QUITE A LOT OF AMERICANS OVER THE AGES.

I THINK IT IS HERE TO STAY.

I DON'T THINK IT IS GOING TO GO SARP AND MULTIGENERATIONAL LIVING IN INCREASE IN THE U.S.

GIVING THE TRENDS WE ARE SEE DISWHRG I WOULD SAY THAT TO THE EXTENT THAT THIS IS BEING DRIVEN BY FINANCIAL CONSIDERATIONS AND CARE GIVING NEEDS.

I WOULD PROJECT THIS COULD END UP BEING A GOOD THING.

BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE PANDEMIC, WHAT THE PEW RESEARCH STUDY SHOWED IS THAT IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES, IT ACTUALLY INCREASES CONFLICT, RIGHT?

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE CAN SAY THIS IS-- I KNOW THAT'S NOT WHAT YOU ARE SAYING.

BUT I THINK THE IMPACT WILL VARY ACROSS DIFFERENT SITUATIONS.

>> THAT'S WHY I THINK THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHOICE AND NECESSITY.

IF PEOPLE ARE DOING IT BECAUSE THEY VALUE THIS, THEN THEY'RE MORE LIKELY TO VIEW IT AS A POSITIVE.

BUT IF YOU ARE BEING FORCED INTO THIS, THEN YOU GET THE RESENTMENT, THE LOSS OF PRIVACY AND THE OTHER TENSIONS THAT COME WITH THAT.

>> ANOTHER REASON I WONDER BECAUSE WE ARE ALL LIVING LONGER, IT'S NOT JUST CHILD CARE BUT IT'S PARENTAL CARE THAT PEOPLE ARE NEEDING.

>> YEAH.

>> AND IT IS TIME THOUGH TO FINISH THIS TOPIC AND GO TO THAT GRADEBOOK.

F KRISTI.

WHO DO YOU HAVE THIS WEEK.

>> IN AGREEMENT WITH THE POST STANDARD EDITORIAL BOARD, F TO NATIONAL GRID WHICH ADDED $100 CUSTOMER FINE TO CUSTOMERS UTILITY BILLS BECAUSE THEY REFUSED TO HAVE THEIR GAS METERS INSPECTED BUT WHAT MANY OF THEM DID WAS FAIL TO CALL AND SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT.

AND EVEN WHEN THE CUSTOMER DOES MAKE THE APPOINTMENT, NATIONAL GRID KEEPS THAT FINE.

1.2 MILLION OVER NINE MONTHS.

>> AND RICK.

>> MY F GOES TO TRADITIONAL REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS.

I MAY HAVE BEEN ABLE TO UNDERSTAND YOUR SILENCES MARJORIE TAYLOR GREEN AND MADISON WHO LIED ABOUT DEMOCRATS, BUT NOW YOU ARE THE TARGET OF THEIR TIRADE.

IN THE PAST COUPLE OF WEEKS WE HAVE SEEN YOU HAVE BEEN ACCUSED OF HAVING ORIGINALLIES AND SNORTING COKE AND BEING PRO PEDOPHILE YET YOU REMAIN SILENT AND THESE PEOPLE WHO SPEW THIS GARBAGE ARE NOT BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE.

DON'T HAVE YOU ANY SELF RESPECT?

>> ANIRBAN, YOUR F. >> SPEAKING OF SELF RESPECT, DONALD TRUMP'S RESPONSE TO TWITTER, A PLATFORM WHERE TRUTH GOES TO DIE.

THE WHOLE VENTURE HAS BEEN BOGGED DOWN BY TECHNICAL FAYE YOURS, WAITING-- FAILURES WAITING LIST FIASCOES AND WE HEARD ABOUT RESIGNATIONS OF TOP EXECUTIVES.

THE TITLE OF TRUMP'S NEW BOOK COULD BE THE ART OF ABYSMAL FAILURES.

>> NINA, YOUR F. >> EVERY DAY AN ACTIVE DUTY MEMBER OF THE MILITARY DIES BY SUICIDE.

EVERY YEAR MORE THAN 6,000 VETERANS HAVE DIED BY SUICIDE.

NEW YORK STATE VETERANS IN PARTICULAR DIED AT A MUCH HIGHER RATE THAN THE GENERAL STATE POPULATION.

THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION CALLED WAR WARRIOR CALL WHICH IS PRESSING CONGRESS AND THE PRESIDENT TO DESIGNATE A DAY, NOVEMBER 21, FOR ALL AMERICANS TO MAKE A CALL TO SOMEONE WHO WAS OR IN UNIFORM AND HELP TO CONNECT THEM TO RESOURCES.

I HOPE THIS HAPPENS SOON.

>> I HOPE THIS HAPPENS SOON AS WELL.

HOW ABOUT AS, KRISTI.

WHO IS GOOD THIS WEEK.

>> I'M GIVING AN A TO COLORADO.

STATE AFTER STATE OUTLAWS AND CRIMINALIZES ABORTION AND EVEN CRIMINALIZING TALKING ABOUT ABORTION, COLORADO LEGISLATURE PASSED AND THE GOVERNOR HAS SIGNED A BILL THAT GUARANTEES ACCESS TO REPRODUCTIVE HEALTHCARE BEFORE AND AFTER PREGNANCY AND PROHIBITS LOCAL GOVERNMENTS FROM ENACTING THEIR OWN ABORTION RESTRICTIONS.

>> AND RICK.

>> MY A GOES TO THE BEGINNING OF THE BASEBALL SEASON.

ABOUT A MONTH AGO WE WEREN'T SURE WHEN OR EVEN IF THE SEASON WAS GOING TO START.

FORTUNATELY SANITY PREVAILED AND WE CAN GET DOWN TO THE IMPORTANT BUSINESS OF WATCHING BASEBALL.

TODAY MY YANKEES START THE SEASON AGAINST THE RED SOX AND BY THE TIME THIS AIRS, THEY WILL EITHER BE IN FIRST PLACE OR LAST PLACE.

BUT WITH 161 GLORIOUS GAMES TO GO WITH LET THE PENNANT RACES BEGIN.

>> PLAY BALL.

AND ANIRBAN.

>> MY A GOES TO THE AMAZON WORKERS AND ORGANIZERS WHO SUCCESSLY BEAT THE GOLIATHS MULTIMILLION DOLLAR ANTIUNION INTIMIDATION CAMPAIGNS AND RACIST HARASSMENT TO FINALLY AND SUCCESSFULLY FORM AN INDEPENDENT LABOR UNION IN STATEN ISLAND.

NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL A PRIME DAY FOR AMAZON WORKERS.

>> NINA.

>> RIGHT HERE IN OUR NECK OF THE WOODS, RESEARCHERS AT CLARKSON UNIVERSITY HAVE ANNOUNCED A BLOOD TEST THAT COULD REDUCE OR PERHAPS EVEN EVENTUALLY ELIMINATE THE NEED FOR MAMMOGRAMS, WHICH ARE OFTEN EXPENSIVE AND SOMETIMES UNPLEASANT.

BUT BECAUSE MAMMOGRAMS AREN'T RECOMMENDED FOR WOMEN UNDER 40, THIS COULD HELP TO IMPROVE EARLY DETICKS DETECTION AND EVENTUALLY INCREASE THE SURVIVAL RATE OF WOMEN.

>> SOUNDS GOOD.

WE DID GET A LETTER THIS WEEK FROM IRWIN WHO TALKS ABOUT OUR DISCUSSION OF GOVERNOR CUOMO'S FUTURE.

AND HE WRITES IF A LYING IMMORAL RICH MAN LIKE REPUBLICAN DONALD TRUMP CAN BEWITCH THE NATION, WHY CAN'T AN ARROGANT IMMORAL DEMOCRAT LIKE CUOMO DO THE SAME?

HE SAYS NEW YORKERS MAY BE DONE WITH CUOMO BUT WHAT ABOUT THE REST OF THE COUNTRY?

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