>> NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, WHY UNIVISION IS FACING BACKLASH AND THE AUTHOR OF A NEW BOOK WILL BE JOINING US.

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ANOTHER EXTENSION TO THE TRUCE BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS IS EXPECTED AS HAMAS HAS RELEASED A SIXTH SET OF HOSTAGES.

QATAR SAYS IT'S OPTIMISTIC OF AN EXTENSION.

NEGOTIATIONS ARE ONGOING AND THEY WOULD FOLLOW THE SAME PARAMETERS AND PREVIOUS EXTENSIONS.

TEN MORE ISRAELI HOSTAGES WAS RELEASED WITH ONE BEING A DUAL ISRAELI CITIZEN.

THE YOUNGEST HOSTAGE THEY WERE HOLDING IS NO LONGER ALIVE ALONG WITH HIS 4-YEAR-OLD MOTHER AND BROTHER.

THE 10-MONTH-OLD WAS KILLED IN AN AIRSTRIKE.

THEY SAID IT WAS ASSESSING THE ACCURACY OF INFORMATION.

ISRAEL IS HOLDING HAMAS ACCESSIBLE FOR THE HOLDING OF ALL HOSTAGES.

>>> A GRAND JURY INDICTED TWO COCH ISSUING HISE SUPERVISORS.

THE GRAND JURY HANDED DON THE INDICTMENT ON MONDAY.

IT WAS PEGGY JUDD AND INTERFERE AUDIENCEINTERFERERESIDENCE OF AN ELECTION OFFICER.

SPOON SPOON.

>> UNIKURDISHION ISFOR MORE ON THIS, WE WELCOMEOWNER OF ELEVATE'S STRATEGIES AND JASON BARAZA PARTNERS AT VERAZA LLC.

WHAT DOES FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP GET OUT OF BEING ON UNIVISION?

>> HE'S GETTING EXPOSURE FOR A DIFFERENT AUDIENCE THAN THE PAST ELECTION CYCLE AND AN AUDIENCE THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS TRYING TO REACH OUT TO MORE AND GET THEIR SUPPORT GOING INTO 2024.

SO FOR HIM TO HAVE THE INTERVIEW HE DID FOR AN HOUR PLUS IN FRONT OF THAT AUDIENCE, IT'S A BIG WIN FOR HIM.

FOR UNIVISION, THEY'RE FACING BACKLASH AND NOT A WIN FOR THEM THERE, BUT THEY'RE TRYING BROADEN THEIR APPEAL, AS WELL.

UNIVISION IS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PAPER VOTE HISPANIC VOTE IS THERE ARE A GROWING NUMBER LEANING MORE REPUBLICAN AND SO I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO APPEAL TO THAT SHIFT IN THEIR AUDIENCE.

>> JASON, SOME PROGRESSIVES ARE THROWING OUT THAT UNIVISION IS TRYING TO BE A NEW FOX NEWS.

IS THAT TRUE?

>> THEY PROVIDED A SOAPBOX AND DIDN'T QUESTION HIM OR CHALLENGE HIM AND THEY JUST LET HIM HAVE AN HOUR OF FREE AIR TIME AND THAT IS WHERE THE PROBLEM REALLY IS ROOTED IN.

>> THIS IS FUNNY BECAUSE THIS HAPPENED WHEN "MEET THE PRESS" HOSTED CHUCK TODD.

I WONDER, WHAT IS THE MEDIA RESPONSIBILITY IN THAT CASE TO QUESTION HIM?

HE TYPICALLY CONTINUES TO TELL THE SAME LIES.

>> IT'S THE SAME LIES.

IN THIS ONE, HE IMPLIED THERE WAS A COORDINATED EFFORT TO SEND CRIMINALS TO AMERICA AND THERE WAS NO ASKING, WHERE DOES THIS TRUTH COME FROM AND WHAT ARE YOU BASING THESE CLAIMS ARE.

NONE OF THAT.

IT WAS THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER AND LET'S MOVE ONTO THE NEXT QUESTION AND THAT'S NOT SERVICING YOUR VIEWING AUDIENCE VERY WELL.

>> DID THE HOST NOT BY QUESTIONING THE FORMER PRESIDENT TO AT LEAST RESPOND?

>> YEAH, I DO THINK THERE WAS A DISSERVICE THERE, BUT I THINK THE CRITICISM WENT TOO FAR BECAUSE AS YOU MENTIONED, KRISTEN WELKER AND OTHER RENOWNED REPORTERS HAVE FACED THE SAME CRITICISM AND THIS COMES FROM AN ELEMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OR DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT DOESN'T LIKE THE PERSON INTERVIEWED AND THEY DON'T LIKE THE FACT THEY'RE GETTING THEIR AIR TIME ACROSS, RIGHT?

PEOPLE DON'T LIKE DONALD TRUMP AND WHAT HE HAS TO SAY AND THEY WON'T BE HAPPY WITH ANY INTERVIEW HE GETS.

AT WHAT POINT WANT WHAT IS THE ROLE OF THE JOURNALIST?

YES, SHOULD YOU HOLD PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE IF THEY ARE SAYING FALSE INFORMATION, BUT SHOULD IT BE A COMBATIVE INTERVIEW?

NO.

I'M GETTING THE FEELING THAT THEY FEEL IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A COMBATIVE DEBATE AND THAT'S NOT THE FORUM THEY WERE PROVIDING.

>> WE KNOW LATINO VOTERS ARE NOT A MONOLITH AND DID FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP MAKE TRUE IN-ROADS WITH VOTERS IN 2016 AND IF SO, WHY?

>> I THINK IT WAS BECAUSE OF HIS ECONOMIC METHOD, RIGHT?

AND I THINK HE HAD THE LUXURY DURING THOSE FOUR YEARS OF HAVING A GOOD ECONOMY FOR THE MOST PART IN COMPARISON TO NOW, RIGHT?

AND YOU KNOW, WHETHER THAT'S -- IF YOU WANT TO BLAME.

>> Joe: JOE BIDEN AND POLICIES, THAT'S A CONVERSATION FOR ANOTHER DAY AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ASSOCIATE THAT WITH THE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT AND PARTY.

HE'S GETTING FLAVORRABILITY BECAUSE OF THAT.

I DO THINK IT'S THE STRENGTH IN WHICH HE SPEAKS APPEALS TO A BROADER AUDIENCE AND I THINK THERE'S A GROWING SEGMENT OF THE VOTING POPULATION WITHIN THE LATINO COMMUNITY THEY WANT STRONG LEADERSHIP AND THEY SEE THAT IN DONALD TRUMP AND NOT JOE BIDEN.

THAT'S WHY HE IS GETTING IN-ROADS THERE.

>> JASON, DO YOU SEE THAT, AS WELL?

>> I THINK FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP COMMUNICATES IN WAYS PEOPLE CAN UNDERSTAND.

THAT'S A HUGE STRENGTH OF HIS, BUT HIS ECONOMIC POLICIES, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE BECAUSE HE'S GIVEN GONE INTO THEM.

HE TALKS IN 140 CHARACTER TREATS OR WHATEVER PLATFORM HE'S ON NOW.

AND NEVER GETS INTO THE SUBSTANCE.

I THINK THAT'S WHAT A CRITICISM IS RIGHT NOW.

LET'S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOUR SUBSTANCE IS AND LET'S GET DEEPER INTO THE ISSUES.

IF WE PUT FORWARD A LEADING PRESSURE CANDIDATE FROM THE REPUBLICAN PARTY CURRENTLY ON OUR SHOW AND IN OUR INTERVIEW, LET'S GET SUBSTANCE OUT OF THIS.

NOT JUST ALLOW HIM TO TALK AT A 30-THOUGHT FOOT LEVEL.

>> THERE'S ONE POINT WE'RE FAILING TO DISCUSS HERE AND I THINK THE BROADER AUDIENCE, TOO.

HE'S A FORMER PRESIDENT AND THERE'S A CERTAIN RESPECT AND CERTAIN WAY THAT YOU NEED TO CONDUCT YOURSELF, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE INTERVIEWING A FORMER PRESIDENT.

THEY HAVE FORMER PRESIDENT OBAMA OR CURRENT PRESIDENT BIDEN, THERE'S A CERTAIN RESPECT OF THAT OFFICE OF PEOPLE WHO HAD IT.

THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN IF YOU HAVE RON DESANTIS DOING A ONE-ON-ONE AND HE'S A CANDIDATE VERSUS A CANDIDATE AND FORMER PRESIDENT, RIGHT?

THERE'S A CERTAIN RESPECT THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN.

BUT I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION, AS WELL, IS THAT IT CAN'T BE NECESSARILY COMBATIVE TALKING TO A FORMER PRESIDENT.

>> NO ONE IS SAYING IT HAS TO BE RUDE, BUT IT SHOULD REQUIRE AN INDIVIDUAL TO PROVE UP AND HAVE SOME BACKGROUND ON THE STATEMENTS THAT THEY'RE MAKING.

>> YOU CAN MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT WHEN PRESIDENT BIDEN GOES ON MSNBC OR SOME OF THE FOLKS WITH THE LIBERAL MEDIA, IT'S USUALLY A SOFTBALL INTERVIEW FOR HIM AS WELL.

>> HAVE DEMOCRATS TAKE LATINO VOTERS FOR GRANTED?

>> THIS HAS BEEN A LONG-STANDING PROBLEM, FOCUSING IN ON THE STARREDSTANDARD ISSUES, IMMIGRATION.

THE HISPANIC VOTING POPULATION IS SO MUCH MORE THAN THAT AND DEMOCRATS NEED TO START TALKING TO THEM ABOUT THE ISSUES THEY TALK TO A BROADER COMMUNITY ABOUT.

HISPANICS CARE ABOUT EDUCATION AND WE CARE ABOUT HEALTHCARE AND WE CARE ABOUT THE ECONOMY.

LET'S HEAR MORE OF THOSE ISSUES AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO BE HELPING THE COMMUNITY THAT WE LIVE IN.

>> IS IT DONE BETTER AT THE STATE-WIDE LEVEL AS OPPOSED TO THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL?

>> I THINK BECAUSE THEY'RE ON THE GROUND MORE, I THINK YOU'RE SEEING LOCAL POLITICIANS STARTING TO FIGURE IT OUT MORE AND STARTING TO MOVE AND HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS.

ON THE NATIONAL LEVEL, WE'RE TOO BROAD.

>> WE'VE SEEN IN A LOT OF STATES THAT ISRAELIS HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL FOR DEMOCRATS SO FAR IS ABORTION SINCE THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE AND HOW DOES THAT EFFECT, FOR GIVE ME FOR THE MONOLITH QUESTION, BUT HOW DOES THAT AFFECT LATINO FAMILIES?

>> I THINK THAT'S WHERE REPUBLICANS ARE SEEING THAT THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY.

OBVIOUSLY, IN ARIZONA, THERE'S A GOOD CHANCE ABORTION IS ON THE BALLOT IN 2024 AND I THINK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO USE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY AND AN ISSUE TO DIVI UP DIVY UP THE VOTING BLOCK.

THAT'S A TOPIC THEY'LL REACH OUT TO THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY ABOUT.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE TOP ISSUE.

IT'S THE ECONOMY, RIGHT?

IT'S ECONOMY AND EDUCATION AND EVEN PUBLIC SAFETY, SAFE COMMUNITY.

THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN A COMMUNITY THEY FEEL SAFE THEIR CHILDREN CAN PLAY OUTSIDE, RIGHT?

AND SO TO GET BACK WHAT JASON WAS SAYING, THERE HAS NOT BEEN A GOOD CONCERTED EFFORTS ON REPUBLICANS OR DEMOCRATS WHEN IT COMES TO OUTREACH, WHEN IT COMES TO HISPANIC OUTREACH.

THERE'S BEEN INDIVIDUAL CANDIDATES THAT INVESTED AND NOT HOLIESHOLISTICALLY.

IF SOMEBODY DOES, IT MAKES AN IMPACT AND THAT OUTREACH IS IMPORTANT AND IT CAN'T BE A LAST-MINUTE, THREE WEEKS BEFORE A GENERAL ELECTION THAT WE'LL JUST DUMP MAIL INTO A DISTRICT AND HOME VEAL FOAL HOPE THEY'LL VOTE FOR US.

>> IN ARIZONA IS THAT A WINNER FOR ARIZONA DEMOCRATS AND HOW MUCH DOES THAT DEPEND HOW THAT IS ON THE NOVEMBER'S BALLOT?

>> I THINK IT IS A WINNER FOR DEMOCRATIC VOTERS AND I DON'T THINK REPUBLICANS WILL BE HAPPY WITH WHAT THEY'LL FIND OUT IN NOVEMBER.

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, THE BEST-SELLING COOKBOOK AUTHOR, LYDIA BOSIANICH.

>> GET THE BEST CONTENT FROM EXPERIENCED JOURNALISTS LEAD BY MODERATOR, JEFFREY GOLDBERG.

>> THAT COULD HAPPEN.

>> WE'RE LOOKING NOW AT POSSIBLY A TRIAL OF THE PRESIDENT'S SON.

>> MANY PEOPLE ARE STILL UNCLEAR ABOUT BIDEN'S AGENDA.

>> FRIDAY NIGHT AT 7:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> FOR 33 YEARS, ACROSS MORE THAN 1500 EPISODES, FIRING LINE PROVIDED A PLATFORM FOR A SUBSTANTIVE AND BALANCE EXCHANGE OF OPINION.

WE LIVE IN A TIME WHEN MEANINGFUL DISCOURSE IS NEEDED MORE THAN EVER.

WELCOMING TO FIRING LINE CONDOLEZA RICE.

>> FRIDAY AT 7:30 ON ARIZONA PBS.

♪♪ ♪♪ >> TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR, WE SPEAK WITH PARENTS OF THE PALESTINIAN STUDENTS SHOT IN VERMONT.

THAT'S COMING UP AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.

>> LYDIA BOSTIANI CLARK IS A BEST-SELLING COOKBOOK AUTHOR AND TV HOST.

YOU CAN WATCH HER ON "LYDIA'S KITCHEN" AND THIS IS FROM OUR FAMILY ABLE TO YOURS AND SHE RESERVES THIS FOR THE ONES SHE LOVES THE MOST.

WE'RE HAPPY TO WELCOME YOU TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

>> A PLEASURE BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, STEVE.

>> I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOOK THAT WE'LL SQUEEZE IN.

THE FIRST QUESTION IS, WHAT DID A THANKSGIVING DINNER WITH YOUR FAMILY LOOK LIKE?

[ Laughter ] >> IT WAS THE ONE HOLIDAY BEING ITALIAN AND ITALY IS ALWAYS ON THE TABLE.

I LOVE THANKSGIVING BECAUSE IT GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK AMERICANS AND BEING AMERICAN.

THE TURKEY IS THERE, THE SWEET POTATOES AND STRING BEANS AND THERE'S THE LASAGNA AND ITALIAN LITTLE THINGS, BUT THE TURKEY IS THERE.

BUT I DO GLAZE IT WITH A LITTLE BALSAMIC VINEGAR.

>> GOOD.

THERE'S A LITTLE TOUCH THERE AND WE'LL EXPERIENCE A HUGE PART OF YOUR LIFE, BIG PART OF THE BOOK, AS WELL.

HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK THE IMMIGRATION WAS SHAPED BY FOOD, BY HAVING RECIPES PASSED ON THROUGH THE GENERATIONS?

>> I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THAT.

OUR CULTURE, THE FOOD THAT WE COOK, WHAT WE EAT, THE FLAVORS THAT WE RELATE TO REFLECT WHO WE ARE, WHICH CULTURE DO WE COME FROM AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, IN PASSING IT DOWN, WE PASS IT DOWN TO THE FAMILY AND WHAT'S IMPORTANT, WHAT'S GREAT FOR ME.

NOW BEING A GRANDMOTHER, IT'S PASSING IT DOWN TO MY CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN AND I HAD THIS WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY AND GIFT TO CONNECT WITH AMERICA THROUGH PBS AND SHARE MY CULTURE, MY PASSION, OF COURSE, THE ITALIAN RECIPES WITH AMERICA.

>> WHAT WAS IT LIKE STARTING OFF AS A TV PERSONALITY AND WHERE YOU ARE NOW, WORLD FAMOUS, AWARD-WINNING.

>> IT WASN'T PLANNED.

I CAME AS AN IMMIGRANT AT 12 YEARS OLD AND SLOWLY WORKED WITH MY HUSBAND INTO THE BUSINESS.

BOOKS WERE NOT ON THE AGENDA, BUT WHEN I OPENED MY SECOND RESTAURANT, ACTUALLY, AND I BECAME THE CHEF, IN '81, TWO OF THE PERSONALITIES WERE JULIA CHILDS AND JAMES BEARD TO DINNER TO SEE WHAT THIS ITALIAN YOUNG WOMAN WAS COOKING UP.

AND SHE LOVED RISOTTA AND ULTIMATELY, SHE INVITED ME ON HER SHOW AND HEY, LYDIA, YOU'RE PRETTY GOOD.

HOW ABOUT A SHOW OF YOUR OWN.

POINTSHE SAID YOU DO FOR ITALIAN QUISINE WHAT I DO FOR THE FRENCH.

THANKS TO HER I'M ON PBS.

>> YOU KNEW YOU HAD THE PERSONALITY AND KNOWLEDGE?

>> YOU KNOW, I LOVE TO RESEARCH AND I WANT TO BE PREPARED.

SO WHEN YOU HAVE THE RESEARCH AND MATERIAL, THEN I LOVE TO COMMUNICATE, AS YOU CAN SEE.

MY MOTHER IS A TEACHER AND SO MAYBE WE ARE ARE TEACHERS AT HEART.

I LOVE TO SHARE.

YOU KNOW WHAT WAS WONDERFUL?

A YOUNG ITALIAN COMING TO AN AMERICAN AND I'M AN AMERICAN MOST OF MY LIFE, BUT IT WAS A WAY TO CONNECT MY TWO SORT OF SOURCES, MY TWO CULTURES, MY NATIVE CULTURE TO MY ADAPTIVE CULTURE AND I STILL DO, 25 YEARS NOW.

>> CONGRATULATIONS!

ONE THINK I WANTED TO COME BACK TO IS THE GENERATIONAL THING WITH RECIPES.

I WAS THINKING ABOUT THE GAME OF TELEPHONE WHERE SOMEONE WHISPERS AND SOMETHING CHANGES AND GETS LOST THIS THE TRANSLATION.

WITH RECIPES THAT YOU PASSED ONTO YOUR KIDS OR GRANDKIDS OR THAT YOU PICKED UP FROM YOUR MOM AND GRANDMOTHER, HOW MUCH WAS SOMETHING YOU WANTED TO PUT YOUR OWN LITTLE VICTIM TOUCH ON?

ARE THERE EXAMPLES YOU TOOK A RECIPE FROM YOUR GRANDMOTHER OR MOTHER AND PUT A LYDIA TOUCH ON?

>> IT REALLY DOES HAPPEN.

I WAS COMMITTED BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO BE AN INVENTIVE CHEF.

I FELT LIKE A CONDUIT.

I FELT RESPECTFUL OF MY ITALIAN CULTURE AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO BRING.

SO IT WAS ESSENTIAL AND I STILL NOW TRAVEL BACK TO ITALY, BACK AND FORTH, TO BRING THAT TRADITION HERE.

IN ITALY, TIME CHANGES AND IT EVOLVES AND NOT AT A FAST PACE, BUT FOOD EVOLVES WITHIN THE CULTURE ITSELF.

COMING HERE, LITTLE THINGS WERE CHANGED.

I HAVE A GREAT EXAMPLE THAT ONE OF MY GRANDDAUGHTERS, THE YOUNG GIRLS LIKE THEIR SALADS.

SO A KALE SALAD.

I NEVER HAD A KALE SALAD WHEN I WAS GROWING UP.

[ Laughter ] >> KALE WITH POLENTA AND THAT WAS OB.

SHEOK.KALE AND PISTACHIO NUTS AND OIL AND VINEGAR AND THE AVOCADO AND KALE SALAD IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF HOW THINGS TRANSCEND.

AND THAT IS, I GUESS -- SHE BRINGS THAT TO OUR FAMILY CULTURE.

>> IN THE BIG PICTURE, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT AMERICAN RESTAURANTEURS OR THE WAY AMERICANS EAT BECAUSE WE'RE A METMELTING POT?

ARE WE TAKING TRADITIONS OF THE OTHER COUNTRIES OR CAN WE DO THAT BETTER?

>> THAT'S THE GREATNESS OF AMERICA, THE PATCHWORK THAT IS AMERICA FROM THE DIFFERENT CULTURES AND, YES, THE CULTURES OF COOKING IS A VERY IMPORTANT PART.

SO IT COMES THROUGHOUT AMERICA.

IT SURFACES IN THE RESTAURANT, ETHNIC RESTAURANTS AND WHAT'S BEAUTIFUL NOW, THAT YOU, KNOW THE AMERICANS SAY, WE ARE IN AMERICA AND WHAT IS THE AMERICAN CUISINE.

THE CUISINE IS BASED ON THE PRODUCT OF THE COUNTRY, WHAT THE MIDWEST, THE SOUTHWEST OR WHATEVER.

SO AMERICANS ARE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, TWO, THREE GENERATIONS AND SO WHAT IS THE CULTURE OF AMERICA?

AND WHAT IS IT?

IT'S A RESULT OF, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THOSE CULTURES THAT CAME BEFORE US IN AMERICA, BUT ALSO THE MIXTURE OF THE NEW IMMIGRANTS THAT CAME IN AND BRINGING IT WITH THEM.

BECAUSE FOOD CULTURE BRINGS THE MARKET AND BRINGS FESTIVITIES ALL WITHIN THE CULTURE, THE COLOR OF THAT CULTURE.

>> YOUR ENTHUSIASM IS OBVIOUS.

[ Laughter ] >> AND YOUR COMMUNICATION SKILLS ARE OBVIOUS, BUT WHAT DO YOU MOST LOVE ABOUT COOKING?

ARE YOU ABLE TO DO THIS AS A SUCCESSFUL PROFESSIONAL LIKE YOU ARE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

COOKING REALLY GRATIFIES ME AND RELAXES ME BECAUSE FOOD IS A GREAT CONDUIT.

IT'S A CONDUIT OF AFFECTION, LOVE AND PASSION.

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WHEN YOU WANT TO FEED SOMEBODY?

YOU WANT TO NURTURE THAT PERSON AND BE WELL AND HAPPY.

WHEN I SEE THAT HAPPY SMILES IN MY RESTAURANTS, WHETHER AT MY TABLE AT HOME OR I GET THE EMAIL FROM THE TV AND PEOPLE SAY, YOU KNOW, LYDIA, I COOKED THAT LAST NIGHT AND LYDIA'S FLAVORS WERE IN OUR KITCHEN.

IT MAKES ME FEEL VERY GOOD, STEVE.

>> QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT DO YOU THINK AS COOKING AS COMPETITION AS WE SEE ON THE STREAMING CHANNELINGS AND STREAMING CHANNELS?

>> IT'S A FAD AND BRINGS UP THE ADRENALINE AND WHO WILL WIN.

I THINK TO SOME EXTENT IT HAS VALUES BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE ARE BETTER THAN OTHERS AND I THINK THAT THE VIEWERS COULD LEARN SOME THINGS.

SO I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF SHOWS IN COOKING THAT REALLY SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

ALL OF THESE COOKING SHOWS, WHETHER GOOD OR BAD, I THINK, PBS WAS THE FIRST ONE TO BRING GOOD COOKING SHOWS TO THE MEDIA, BUT WHAT IT IS, IT BROUGHT THE ATTENTION OF FOOD TO EVERYBODY.

EVERYBODY IS INTERESTED IN FOOD.

>> LYDIA, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THAT'S IT FOR TONIGHT'S EDITION OF ARIZONA HORIZON.

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