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US Rep. Gwen Moore on Immigration, Israel and Ukraine Policy
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2231 | 7m 19sVideo has Closed Captions
Gwen Moore on proposed legislation addressing immigration and aid for Israel, Ukraine.
U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Milwaukee, discusses legislation to provide expanded aid for Israel and Ukraine, as well as different proposals to increase funding for security at the border with Mexico.
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US Rep. Gwen Moore on Immigration, Israel and Ukraine Policy
Clip: Season 2200 Episode 2231 | 7m 19sVideo has Closed Captions
U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore, D-Milwaukee, discusses legislation to provide expanded aid for Israel and Ukraine, as well as different proposals to increase funding for security at the border with Mexico.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> LAST WEEK, WE TALKED WITH WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN SENATOR RON JOHNSON, WHO TOLD US HE WAS STRONGLY OPPOSED TO BIPARTISAN IMMIGRATION REFORM MEASURES THAT WERE INCLUDED IN A BILL TO FUND EMERGENCY AID TO UKRAINE AND ISRAEL.
THAT BILL ULTIMATELY TANKED IN THE SENATE.
THE AID FUNDING WAS SEPARATED OUT AND JOHNSON ALSO VOTED AGAINST THAT.
THIS WEEK, WE HEAR FROM DEMOCRATIC U.S. REPRESENTATIVE GWEN MOORE FROM MILWAUKEE FOR HER TAKE ON ALL OF THIS.
CONGRESSWOMAN, THANK YOU FOR >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
>> SO AT THIS TIME, AS YOU WELL KNOW, IT HASN'T BEEN CALLED TO THE HOUSE FLOOR, BUT WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON THE 95-BILLION-DOLLAR EMERGENCY AID BILL PASSED OUT OF THE U.S. SENATE?
>> WELL, I THINK THAT IT WAS GIFT WRAPPED REPUBLICAN BILL, IN MY OPINION.
MANY OF THE IMMIGRATION REFORM ADVOCATES WERE OPPOSED TO IT BECAUSE IT WAS VERY, VERY STRIDENT.
ENFORCEMENT.
IT GAVE THE PRESIDENT -- NOT JUST PRESIDENT BIDEN, BUT ANY PRESIDENT, A GREAT DEAL OF ENFORCEMENT POWERS, THE ABILITY TO SHUT THE BORDER DOWN COMPLETELY AFTER 5,000 FOLKS HAD CROSSED DURING -- IN A DAY'S PERIOD OF TIME AND KEEP IT SHUT DOWN.
IT LIMITED ASYLUM CLAIMS, PROHIBITED PEOPLE FROM SEEKING ASYLUM A THIRD TIME, AND IT SEEMED TO REALLY DISREGARD THE WELFARE OF CHILDREN, WHICH I THOUGHT WAS QUITE DISTURBING.
AND YET, IT WAS A BILL THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN SAID HE WAS WILLING TO SIGN.
IT ALSO REENGAGED THE UNITED STATES IN THE MEXICO -- STAY IN MEXICO POLICY, AND IT WAS A GIFT.
HAD WANTED IN THEIR HR2 BILL, AND YET THEY REFUSED TO MOVE IT FORWARD.
MORE ABOUT THAT IN A BIT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THE EMERGENCY AID BILL THAT WOULD GIVE $95 BILLION TO UKRAINE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND ISRAEL AND HUMANITARIAN AID TO GAZA.
WHAT ABOUT THIS MATTER OF GIVING THIS FUNDING TO UKRAINE AT THIS TIME?
>> SO I THINK THAT WHAT'S REALLY AT STAKE IS PRESERVING DEMOCRACY IN EUROPE.
AND SO I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO FUND THE INITIATIVES IN UKRAINE.
THEY'RE NOT A N.A.T.O.
PARTNER SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
AND THE LEAST WE COULD DO IS TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THAT AID.
I JUST DON'T GET IT, WHY SENATOR JOHNSON DOES NOT SEE THAT, DOES NOT LEAN INTO THAT.
IT'S VERY PUZZLING.
>> WHAT ABOUT -- >> YOU KNOW, AND TODAY, WE JUST HAD THE RUSSIAN OPPOSITION LEADER DIE.
WE TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT DURING THE BREAK.
IT'S HARD TO DIE OF NATURAL CAUSES WHEN YOU'RE 47 YEARS OLD.
>> INDEED.
WHAT ABOUT GIVING MONEY TO ISRAEL AT THIS TIME?
WHAT'S YOUR POSITION ON THAT?
>> OH, I THINK IT WAS PART OF THE LARGER PACKAGE.
THERE WERE DEFENSIVE WEAPONRY THERE.
ISRAEL IN THE MIDDLE OF A WAR AND IT'S BEING ATTACKED ON ALL SIDES OF ITS BORDERS BY THE HOUTHIS AND HEZBOLLAH AND ISIS, AS WELL AS HAMAS.
AND SO I THINK THAT IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO DENY YOUR ALLY ASSISTANCE AND AID WHILE THEY'RE AT WAR.
BUT I DO WANT TO SAY THAT INK JOE BIDEN HAS REALLY INDICATED VERY CLEARLY THAT HE WANTS BENJAMIN NETANYAHU TO SORT OF LISTEN TO OUR COUNSEL A LITTLE BIT MORE, AND IF WE PROVIDE THEM WITH WEAPONS, THEY OUGHT TO BE USED DEFENSIVELY AND THAT WE OUGHT TO BE MORE STRATEGIC IN SEEKING OUT HAMAS MILITANTS AS OPPOSED TO CARPET BOMBING THE ENTIRE POPULATION.
YOU KNOW, THE SITUATION IS VERY DIRE.
BEEN FORCED INTO THE SOUTHERN PART OF ISRAEL.
RAFAH, I DON'T KNOW IF PEOPLE CAN FIGURE -- SEE THE MAP IN THEIR MIND, BUT THERE'S NOWHERE ELSE TO GO EXCEPT THE SINAI DESERT.
CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR -- SAYING THAT THEY COULD POSSIBLY RETREAT FROM THE THAT THEY HAVE HAD WITH ISRAEL.
I'M VERY DISTURBED THAT THIS HAS TURNED INTO A REGIONAL WAR AND VERY, VERY CONCERNED, AS WE ALL OUGHT TO BE.
SO I DO THINK THAT ISRAEL IS OUR ALLY, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD TAKE OUR FRIENDSHIP FOR GRANTED.
VERY, VERY CLOSE TO SAYING THE QUIET PART OUT LOUD, THAT WE'RE REALLY GOING TO START CONDITIONING OUR SUPPORT BECAUSE THIS SHOULD NOT BE A REVENGE CAMPAIGN AGAINST THE GAZA PEOPLE.
>> TURNING BACK DOMESTIC, CONGRESSWOMAN.
CONGRESSMAN FROM WISCONSIN, MIKE GALLAGHER, VOTED AGAINST THE IMPEACHMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY MAYORKAS, AS DID YOU.
WHAT'S YOUR COMMENT ON HIS HOUSE IMPEACHMENT, THE SECRETARY'S?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, ON T.V., I CAN'T REALLY SAY WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY, BUT I THINK MIKE GALLAGHER'S VOTE REALLY IS INDICATIVE OF THE PRESSURE THAT ALL OF REPUBLICANS ARE EXPERIENCING TO DO WHAT DONALD TRUMP WANTS THEM TO DO, AND MIKE GALLAGHER IS SOMEONE WHO APPARENTLY HAS AMBITIONS BEYOND THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, DECIDED TO JUST TAKE AN EXIT.
HE VOTED AGAINST THE BIG LIE IN NOT CERTIFYING THE ELECTION.
I NOTED THAT EARLIER IN THE 118th CONGRESS.
AND, YOU KNOW, HE'S THOUGHTFUL AND HE HAS COURAGE AND I THINK THAT IT DEMONSTRATES THAT GREAT COWARDICE THAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING HERE IN THE HOUSE.
>> ALL RIGHT.
GWEN MOORE, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR GWEN MOORE, THANKS VERY MUCH FOR
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