
U.S. Senate, 2022 General
Season 2022 Episode 5 | 1h 28m 49sVideo has Closed Captions
Candidates for U.S. Senate debate ahead of the November 8th general election.
Candidates for Idaho’s seat in the U.S. Senate debate ahead of the November 8th general election. Incumbent Mike Crapo and challengers David Roth and Scott Cleveland answer questions from Betsy Russell of the Idaho Press, Margaret Carmel of BoiseDev.com, and Clark Corbin of the Idaho Capital Sun, moderated by Melissa Davlin.
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U.S. Senate, 2022 General
Season 2022 Episode 5 | 1h 28m 49sVideo has Closed Captions
Candidates for Idaho’s seat in the U.S. Senate debate ahead of the November 8th general election. Incumbent Mike Crapo and challengers David Roth and Scott Cleveland answer questions from Betsy Russell of the Idaho Press, Margaret Carmel of BoiseDev.com, and Clark Corbin of the Idaho Capital Sun, moderated by Melissa Davlin.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship>> WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES.
TONIGHT A LOOK AT THE CANDIDATES FOR U.S. SENATE.
THE IDAHO DEBATES IS ORGANIZED BY THESE PARTNERS.
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>> HELLO AND WELCOME TO THE IDAHO DEBATES AT THE TELEVISION STUDIOS IN BOISE.
THIS IS ONE OF FOUR DEBATES WE'RE HOSTING BEFORE THE NOVEMBER 8 GEM ELECTION.
THE WINNER OF THIS ELECTION WILL REPRESENT IDAHO IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE FOR 6 YEARS AS ONE OF TWO U.S.
SENATORS FOR THE STATE.
I WANT TO WELCOME THE CANDIDATES, INCUMBENT SENATO MIKE CRAPO AND CHALLENGERS DAVID ROTH AND SCOTT CLEVELAND.
MIKE CRAPO IS SEEKING HIS FIFTH TERM IN THE U.S. SENATE.
HE WAS PREVIOUSLY SERVED AS REPRESENTATIVE FOR IDAHO'S SECOND CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT FOR THREE TERMS AND IN THE IDAHO STATE SENATE FOR FOUR TERMS.
DAVID ROTH SERVES AS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BONNEVILLE YOUTH DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL AND IS ON THE BOARD FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY IN IDAHO FALLS AND IDAHO FALLS SOUP KITCHEN.
SCOTT CLEVELAND OWNS AN INVESTMENT AND BROKERAGE FIRM IN EAGLE.
PRIOR TO THAT HE WAS MANAGING PARTNER OF THE BOISE OFFICE OF NEW YORK LIFE.
HE WAS PREVIOUSLY TREASURER FOR EAGLE KIWANIS CLUB AND EAGLE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.
I'M MODERATING THE DEBT BAY HELPING US KEEP TIME INGE BRIDGET GIBSON FROM THE LEAGUE LEAGUEOF WOMEN VOTERS EDUCATION.
EACH CANDIDATES WILL BE GIVEN 90 SECONDS FOR OPENING COMMENTS AND 60 SECONDS FOR CLOSING STATEMENTS.
CANDIDATES ALSO HAVE 90 SECONDS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS AND 60 SECONDS FOR REBUTTAL.
I'LL ALLOW SOME BACK AND FORTH IF I THINK THE CONVERSATION IS PRODUCTIVE AND EDUCATIONAL FOR VOTERS WHILE TRYING TO MAKE SURE EACH CANDIDATE GETS ABOUT EQUAL TIME.
WE DREW STRAWS FOR SEE WHO WOULD GO FIRST, AND MR. CLEVELAND, YOU HAVE THAT HONOR.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO THANK IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION FOR HOSPITALS THIS, AND THANK MIKE CRAPO AND DAVID ROTH FOR BEING HERE AS WELL.
WHY AM I RUNNING FOR THIS IMPORTANT OFFICE?
WELL, IN MY OPINION AMERICA'S STILL GREAT BUT CLEARLY HEADED IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.
THE REASON IS THIS.
OUR LEADERS INCLUDING CAREER POLITICIANS LIKE MIKE CRAPO ARE FAILING MISERABLY AT SERVING THE BREAST INTERESTS OF EVERY DAY AVERAGE AMERICANS.
I'M RESOLVED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
I'M HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK THE TRUTH ABOUT WHY I'M THE BEST CANDIDATE TO SERVE THE CITIZENS OF IDAHO.
THE FACT IS MIKE CRAPO HAS FAILED AND BETRAYED VOTERS OF IDAHO AND ABSOLUTELY SHOULD NOT BE EECT WILLED CONGRESS THIS NOVEMBER.
ALBERT EINSTEIN SAID IT BEST.
THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER EXPECTING DIFFERENT RESULTS.
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT THE VOTERS HAVE BEEN DOING LATELY.
I'M HOPING TO CHANGE THAT WITH YOUR SUPPORT.
ONCE AGAIN I'M SCOTT CLEVELAND, YOUR INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE FOR THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
THANK GLIEW.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
SENATOR CRAPO.
>> THANK YOU TO IDAHO PUBLIC DIVISION AND TO YOU, THE VOTERS OF ID MO TAKING TIME TO LISTEN TO AND EVALUATE THIS DEBATE.
OUR COUNTRY FACES UNPRECEDENTED THREATS DOMESTICALLY AND GLOBALLY.
INFLATION, ECONOMIC DECLINE, SECURITY AT THE BORDER.
PERSONAL SAFETY.
EVEN THE FOUNDATIONAL PRINCIPLES OF OUR CONSTITUTION ARE UNDER ATTACK.
AMERICA IS AT A CROSSROADS.
I'M IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS FIGHT.
MY RECORD IS SOLID AND PROVEN IN FIGHTING EFFECTIVELY AND AGGRESSIVELY FOR IDAHO'S PRINCIPLES AND VALUES.
MY VISION FOR WINNING THIS FIGHT IS FOR IDAHO AND IDAHO'S PRINCIPLES TO BE ADVOCATED EFFECTIVELY IN WASHINGTON.
WE MUST END RUN AWAY SPENDING AND INFLATION, UNLEASH AMERICAN ENERGY, SECURE OUR SOUTHERN BORDER AND STOP THE INVASION OF FENTANYL AND CRIME.
PROTECT OUR CONSTITUTION AND THE PRINCIPLES AND FREEDOMS THAT IT ASSURES, LIFE, LIBERTY, SPEECH, RELIGIOU FREE DON DOM AND THE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS AMONG OTHERS.
PRODUCT PARENTS' RIGHTS IN OUR SCHOOLS OVER CURRICULUM DECISION AND SOCIAL POLITICIAN AND YES, SAFETY.
RESTORE OUR NATIONAL DEFENSE GLOBALLY.
SUPPORT OUR POLICE AND STOP THE DEFUND THE POLICE EFFORT AND THE CRIME WAVE IT'S BRINGING WITH IT AND PROTECT STATES' RIGHTS TO ENSURE THEIR ELECTION POLICIES.
THANK YOU FOR LISTENING.
I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
MR. ROTH.
>> THANK YOU TO MENBERS OF THE IDAHO DEBATES COMMISSION AND IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION.
I THINK WE CAN AGREE WE HAVE SEEN A SHIFT IN THE VIEW OF THE MIDTERM ELECTIO WHETHER IT COMES TO WHAT THE COUNTRY EXPECTS AS OUTCOME.
WE HAVE SEEN INDIVIDUAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS RIP AWAY FROM LARGE PORTIONS OF OUR POPULATIONS AND A LAUNDRY LIST OF THE FREEDOMS YET TO BE TAKEN AWAY.
I HAVE BEEN TRAVELING AROUND THE STATE AND IN EVERY COMMUNITY I SPEAK TO WOMEN ABOUT THEIR FUTURE.
AS A MEMBER OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY I ALSO SHARE FEARS OF WHAT MAY BE NEXT.
AS A COMMUNITY LEADER AND DRUG PREVENTION I SEE FIRSTHAND THE CHALLENGES THAT I IDAHO FACES WHEN TRYING TO TACKLE OUR DRUG APPROXIMATE AND I'M CONCERNED ABOUT LACK OF SUPPORT FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
WE NEED TO DO MORE.
AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY I HAVE SEEN THE EFFECTS OF OUR HOUSING CRISIS FIRSTHAND AND AS A SINGLE FATHER OF TWO BOYS I FACE MANY OF THE SAME CHALLENGES THAT NEATER 50% OF IDAHOANS FACE EVERY DAY.
I WORK FULL-TIME AND I STILL SOMETIMES STRUGGLE TO MAKE ENOUGH TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
WE REQUIRE LEADERSHIP WITH REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE.
WE MUST HAVE A SENATOR WHO UNDERSTANDS THAT HERE IN IDAHO WE HAVE REAL PEOPLE WITH REAL PROBLEMS AND WE REQUIRE REAL SOLUTIONS.
NOW IT'S TIME TO STAND UP AND ASK FOR THOSE SOLUTIONS AND I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE THIS NOVEMBER.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
OUR FIRST QUESTION IS FROM BETSY RUSSELL FOR MR. CLEVELAND.
[AUDIO NOT UNDERSTANDABLE] >> YOU LIST YOUR TOP ISSUES AS NATIONAL SECURITY, INFLATION AND ENERGY INDEPENDENCE AND RECKLESS SPENDING.
HOW WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO FIX THESE PROBLEMS AS ONE INDEPENDENT SENATOR?
>> WELL, THE FRAMERS OF OUR COUNTRY, BETSY, HAD THAT IN MIND AND GAVE THE POWER OF THE PURSE TO THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.
WE ARE FACED WITH MANY LARGE PROBLEMS YOU LISTED MOST OF THE MAJOR ONES THERE.
I BELIEVE AS A UNITED STATES SENATOR YOU HAVE TO DIG YOUR HEEHEELS IN.
YOU HAVE THE POWER OF THE PURSE AND THAT POWER SHOULD BE WIELDED.
OUR SOUTHERN BORDER IS BEING INVADED ON A DAILY BASIS, IT'S A VIOLATION OF OUR OATH OF OFFICE OF CONGRESS AS WELLS THE PRESIDENT.
THAT CAN ONLY BE STOPPED WITH PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE BACKBONE TO DO IT.
EVERY SIX MONTHS THEY WANT TO RAISE THE DEBT CEILING IN THIS COUNTRY.
IF I WERE A SITTING UNITED STATES SENATOR I WOULD SAY I'M NOT TALKING TO YOU ABOUT MONEY UNTIL THAT BORDER IS CLOSED TO MY SATISFACTION.
THOSE ARE THE EXAMPLES YOU HAVE AS POWER.
ONE SENATOR FROM IDAHO HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF POWER AS ANY OTHER SENATOR IN THE COUNTRY WHETHER IT'S LARGE OR SMALL.
THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO.
I WOULD USE THE POWER OF THE PURSE TO PUSH BACK ON THE OUT OF CONTROL SPENDING.
IT'S RIDICULOUS.
WE'RE AT $31 TRILLION AND COUNTING.
THAT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE.
AGAIN, I WOULD USE MY POWER OF THE PURSE TO SAY NO TO THESE THINGS THAT THEY ARE DOING.
>> IF I MAY FOLLOW UP, AS ONE INDEPENDENT SENATOR, ONE OF 100, HOW COULD DIGGING YOUR HEELS IN STOP ANYTHING AND IF ELECTED WOULD YOU CAUCUS WITH DEMOCRATS OR REPUBLICANS OR NEITHER?
>> THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
I WOULD MOST LIKELY CAUCUS WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.
I WAS A LIFELONG REPUBLICAN UNTIL TWO YEARS AGO.
THAT IS MOST LIKELY WHAT WOULD HAPPEN.
HOWEVER, THE EXCEPTION TO THAT IS WHEN THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING SOMETHING WRONG AND STUPID WHICH THEY DO ON A REGULAR BASIS.
I WOULD SAY NO.
THERE ARE INDEPENDENT PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
IT'S A SHORT LIST, BUT YOU NEED MORE LIKE MINDED PEOPLE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO CHANGE THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY WE CAN'T KEEP DOING THE SAME THINGS WITH THE STATUS QUO, GO ALONG TO GET ALONG POLITICS.
THAT'S WHAT HAS GOTTEN US INTO THE MESS WE HAVE GOTTEN INTO SO FAR.
>> SENATOR CRAPO, YOU HAVE HELD PUBLIC OFFICE IN SOME CAPACITY SINCE 1984.
YET YOU'RE NOT SATISFIED WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL.
YOU HAVE MADE THAT CLEAR.
HOW CAN YOU CHANGE THINGS MORE THAN YOU ALREADY HAVE ALREADY IN YOUR POLITICAL CAREER?
AND WHY SHOULD IDAHOANS CONTINUE TO TRUST YOU TO DO SO?
>> VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK THE WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS TO LOOK BACK AT WHAT WE HAVE DONE BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION TOOK COMPLETE CONTROL OVER THE POLITICAL PROCESSES IN WASHINGTON.
THINK BACK JUST BEFORE PRESIDENT BIDEN TOOK ELECTION AND THE SENATE AND HOUSE WENT TOTALLY DEMOCRAT.
WE HAD THE STRONGEST ECONOMY THAT WE HAD SEEN IN PROBABLY ALL OF OUR LIFETIMES.
UNEMPLOYMENT WAS AT RECORD LOWS.
WAGE GROWTH WAS CONSISTENTLY GROWING MONTH AFTER MONTH.
6.9 MILLION NEW JOBS HAD BEEN ADDED.
THE MIDDLE CLASS WAS GROWING TO RECORD HIGHS FOR THEIR MEDIAN INCOME.
WE WERE PROTECTING THE STRENGTH OF AMERICA TO DEFEND ITSELF ACROSS THE GLOBE.
WE ALSO HAD THE BORDER UNDER NOT TOTAL CONTROL BUT ON THE WAY TO SIGNIFICANT CONTROL TO STOPPING ITS EXPLOSION OF INVASION RIGHT NOW FROM FENTANYL AND CRIME.
ONE TERM LATER UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE NOW SEE, ALL OF THAT HAS BEEN UNWOUND.
ON HIS FIRST DAY PRESIDENT BIDEN UNWOUND THE PROTECTIONS AT THE BORDER THAT WERE PROTECTING US AND HELPING US TO CONTROL T. WE HAVE SEEN PRESSURE FOR LITERALLY $9 TRILLION OF NEW SPENDING.
WE STOPPED 6 TRILLION BUT WE NEED CONTROL OF THE AGENDA.
THE SOLUTION HERE IS TO GIVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND A REPUBLICAN SENATE THE CONTROL OVER THE AGENDA SO THAT WE DON'T CONTINUE TO SEE BIDEN, SCHUMER AND PELOSI DRIVING THIS RUNAWAY SPENDING, DRIVING THESE OPEN BORDERS AND CAUSING THE DIFFICULTIES WE'RE ALL TALKING ABOUT TODAY.
>> SENATOR CRAPO DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT PRESIDENT BIDEN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING THAT IS GOING WRONG IN THIS COUNTRY RIGHT NOW?
>> I CAN TELL YOU HE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INFLATION.
FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF OUR ENERGY INDEPENDENCE.
FOR THE OPEN BORED THERE'S WE ARE FACING.
AND FRANKLY HIS PARTY IS ONE THAT HAS PUSHED THE PROCESSES THAT HAVE OPENED OUR COUNTRY TO CRIME.
THE DEFUND THE POLICE EFFORT WHICH THEY ARE NOW BACKING AWAY FROM AS FAST AS THEY CAN HAS CAUSED US TO LOSE RESPECT FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THIS COUNTRY.
YES, THAT HAS COME UNDER THIS ADMINISTRATION.
>> MR. ROTH -- >> MAY I INTERJECT?
SENATOR CRAPO, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR MUCH OF THAT INFLATION.
YOU VOTED ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE BULL ONE OF ONLY 13 PEOPLE TO DO SO OF A 1.5 TRILLION BILL AND ONLY .18% WENT TO IDAHO.
I FIND IT DISINGENUOUS FOR YOU TO LAMENT THE INFLATION YOU'RE HELPING TO CAUSE.
>> THAT WAS A BIPARTISAN BILL, OF COURSE.
>> I UNDERSTAND THAT.
HE VOTED TO SPEND 1.25 TRILLION NOW HE LIKES TO LAMENT OWE BAD IT IS FOR THE COUNTRY.
>> LET'S SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT.
FIRST OF ALL THAT WAS TOTALLY OFFSET.
THE NEW SPENDING ON INFRASTRUCTURE WAS TOTALLY OFFSET, NOT NEW SPENDING.
BOTTOM LINE IS THE INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING IS NOT CONTRIBUTING TO OUR INFLATION.
IT HASN'T EVEN PAID OUT YET.
IT WILL PAY OUT OVER FUTURE YEARS AND THAT SPENDING WHICH WE WERE WORKING ON WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP WHEN HE WAS PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE KNEW IT WAS SUPPLY SIDE SPENDING IS ACTUAL WILL COUNTER INFLATIONARY SPENDING.
REPUBLICANS HAVE CONSISTENTLY SUPPORTED COUNTER INFLATIONARY SUPPLY SIDE INFRASTRUCTURE SPENDING AND WE DID THAT SPENDING WITHOUT ADDING ANY NEW SPENDING TO OUR FEDERAL PROCESSES.
>> MR. ROTH.
WHILE YOU HAVE BEEN A PRECINCT COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN YOU HAVE NEVER HELD PUBLIC OFFICE.
YOU PREVIOUSLY RAN FOR A SEAT IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE.
WHY LEAP FROM A STATE TO A FEDERAL LEVEL RACE AND WHY SHOULD VOTERS TRUST YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL?
>> THANK YOU.
SO IT IS KIND OF A JUMP TO GO FROM A STATE LEGISLATURE RACE THAT I DIDN'T WIN UP TO THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
BUT I HAVE TO TELL YOU IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN IDAHO WE DON'T HAVE A PARTICULARLY DEEP BENCH SO OFTEN WE HAVE TO LOOK AND SEE WHO HAS THE BEST EXPERIENCE, WHO HAS THE ABILITY TO LAUNCH THE BEST CAMPAIGN POSSIBLE TO ACHIEVE THAT GOAL.
SO AFTER SPEAKING WITH SEVERAL FORMER CONGRESSMEN, WE MADE THE DECISION THAT I WAS IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO DO THAT AND WE DID THAT.
I HAVE REAL WORLD ON THE GROUND EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH THE PROBLEMS THAT EVERYDAY IDAHOANS FACE.
WE TALK ABOUT THE DRUG PROBLEM, ABOUT HOUSING.
THESE ARE ALL AREAS THAT I HAVE DIRECT EXPERIENCE IN AND SOLUTIONS THAT ARE WORKING.
SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT FOR IDAHOANS THEY CAN SEE WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ESSENTIALLY THE SAME LEADERSHIP FOR OVER 30 YEARS IN THAT STATE AND WHAT WE'RE DOING SIMPLY IS NOT WORKING.
WE HAVE HAD A REPUBLICAN SUPERMAJORITY FOR NEARLY 30 YEARS YET NEARLY HALF OUR POPULATION IS AT OOR BELOW.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT DIFFERENT POLICIES TO MAKE SURE WE'RE 'EMMENTING THOSE POLICIES ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL AS WELL AS ON THE STATE LEVEL.
WE'RE ALL PUSHING FORWARD.
>> COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT YOU MEAN BY AT AL IS OR BELOW?
>> IT'S A MEASURE PUT OUT BY THE UNITED WAY.
THEY DO IT ACROSS THE COUNTRY WHERE THEY LOOK AT INDIVIDUALS IN A STATE.
THEY LOOK AT THEIR INCOME, THEIR EXPENSES AND MEASURES HOW CLOSE THEY ARE TO BEING ABLE TO MEET UNEXPECTED EXPENSES.
IN IDAHO IT VARIES FROM COUNTY TO COUNTY BUT ON AVERAGE STATEWIDE WE'RE JUST OVER 40%.
OUR ONE CAR REPAIR, ONE BLOWN WATER HEATER, ONE MEDICAL BILL AWAY FROM FINANCIAL RUIN THAT COULD AFFECT THEM FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
THIS IS NOT A NEW PROBLEM.
IT'S A PROBLEM THAT'S BEEN CONTINUE NOT GUILTY IDAHO FOR DECADES AND IT'S JUST GETTING WORSE.
>> COULD I JUST RESPOND?
I WOULD POINT OUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT MR. ROTH SUPPORTS PRETTY MUCH ENTIRELY THE BIDEN SCHUMER PLOATIONY AJEN DHA I JUST DISCUSSED.
ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SERIOUS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN EACH OTHER IS THAT.
I BELIEVE THAT WE HAVE GOT TO RETURN TO MORE FISCALLY APPROPRIATE POLICIES, PROTECT OUR ENERGY INDEPENDENCE, AND STOP THE CRIME AT THE BORDERS.
THAT'S A CRITICAL ISSUE WE NEED TO ADDRESS HERE TODAY.
>> MR. ROTH?
>> I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT TO LOOK AT WHAT CAUSES WE HAVE CAUSING OUR INFLATION AND OUR NATIONAL DEBT AND CAUSING A RAISE IN OUR DEFICIT.
I KNOW YOU SPOKE HIGHLY OF THE TRUMP TAX CUTS HOWEVER THE CBO ESTIMATES THEY ADDED 1.5 TRILLION TO THE DEFICIT.
IT WAS NOT OFFSET SPENDING, IT WAS NEW DEFICIT SPENDING THAT YOU WERE JUST RAILING AGAINST.
OVER TEN YEARS.
SO I THINK THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHICH POLICIES WE'RE PUTTING OUT THERE.
I AGREE WE NEED TO BE INVESTING IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
WE NEED TO BE INVESTING, ANOTHER REASON I'M CURIOUS HOW COME YOU DIDN'T ADVOCATE FOR ANY ADDITIONAL FEDERAL SPENDING IN THE STATE OF IDAHO DURING THE FIRST APPROPRIATIONS BILL WHERE THE OMNIBUS SPENDING BILL WHEN SIMPSON WAS ABLE TO SECURE LARGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY FOR VARIOUS PARTS OF HIS CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT BUT NORTH IDAHO AND DISTRICT 2 RECEIVED ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.
WE NEED TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS IN OUR STATE SO THAT WE HAVE A COMPETITIVE -- WE'RE COMPETITIVE WITH THE SURROUNDING STATES.
>> WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
WE'LL HAVE PLENTY MORE TIME TO GET INTO ALL OF THAT.
NEXT QUESTION IS FROM MARGARET CARAMEL.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, THE COUNTRY IS FACING RECORD BREAKING INFLATION.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE?
>> WELL, INFLATION IS AT ITS 40-YEAR HIGH AS YOU MENTIONED.
WHY IS THAT?
WELL, OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT KEEPS PRINTING MONEY OUT OF THIN AIR, SOMETHING LIKE 7 TRILLION DOLLARS.
AGAIN, I GO BACK TO MY PREVIOUS ANSWER AS A SITTING UNITED STATES SENATOR, WHILE THE SPENDING BEGINS IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES, IT STILL HAS TO GO THROUGH THE SENATE.
WE HAVE TO STOP THIS RECKLESS SPENDING AND IT'S GOING TO TAKE OUR FINANCIAL HOUSE BACK IN ORDER.
SO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO ADD TO THE FEDERAL DEFICIT NEEDS TO BE SAID NO TO.
RIGHT NOW THIS CURRENT CONGRESS AND ADMINISTRATION ARE SENDING BILLIONS OF OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS, THOSE ARE SACRED DOLLARS, AND THEY ARE BEING SENT TO PLACES LIKE UKRAINE.
WE HAVE NO BUSINESS SPENDING MONEY IN UKRAINE.
OUR COUNTRY IS RICH.
IT IS THE MOST POWERFUL ECONOMIC ENGINE ON EARTH AND THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY TO GO AROUND BUT WE'RE AIMING AT THE WRONG THINGS.
WE'RE AIMING AT A BUNCH OF GREEN ENERGY NONSENSE LIKE SENATOR CRAPO VOTES FOR AND NOT SPENDING IT ON PEOPLE LIKE OUR VETERANS AND HOMELESS PEOPLE, PEOPLE THAT ARE HUNGRY, PEOPLE THAT DESERVE THAT MONEY, OUR OWN UNITED STATES MILITARY VETERANS ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE.
THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE WILL TO AIM IT AT THE RIGHT PEOPLE.
>> CAN I RESPOND TO THAT?
>> PLEASE.
>> FIRST OF ALL, THE FACT IS THAT THE INFLATION ISSUE WHICH YOU ASKED ABOUT IS ONE THAT IS CAUSED BY THE RUNAWAY SPENDING IN THIS ADMINISTRATION.
BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION TOOK OFFICE THE INFLATION RATE WAS AT 1.7%.
BELOW THE 2% TARGET OF OUR COUNTRY.
IT'S NOW AT 8.5% OVER MAYBE 500% OF WHAT IT WAS WHEN THIS ADMINISTRATION TOOK OFFICE.
THEY DID THAT BY RUNAWAY SPENDING THAT HAS CAUSED THIS DYNAMIC BUT IS ABOUT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THREE TO 5 TRILLION OF SPENDING THEY WERE ABLE TO GET THROUGH BECAUSE THEY COULD GET AROUND THE FILIBUSTER.
I HAVE VOTED FOR EVERY -- AGAINST EVERY SINGLE SPENDING BILL IN THIS CONGRESS.
NOTWITHSTANDING THE ATTACKS OF MIO OPPONENTS.
IN FACT I'M BEING ATTACKED BY MIO OPPONENTS FOR VOTING AGAINST SOME OF THE SPENDING THAT THEY SEEM TO THINK WAS SUPPORTED.
THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT WE HAVE GOT TO STOP THE RUNAWAY SPENDING.
WE MUST NOT SPEND BEYOND OUR MEANS.
>> SENATOR CRAPO, YOU'RE A RANKING MEMBER OF THE SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE.
YOU SAID THE REDUCTION ACT WOULD ONLY MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE.
WHAT YOU HAVE VOTED FOR TO ADDRESS THE IMPACTS OF INFLATION ACTIVELY HELP CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE STRUGGLING?
>> THERE HAVE BEEN NO BILLS ON THE SENATE FLOOR BECAUSE CHUCK SCHUMER AND PRESIDENT BIDEN AND NANCY PELOSI HAVE CONTROLLED THE AGENDA.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT DID NOTHING TO REDUCE INFLATION.
IN FACT PEN HORTON, WHICH STUDIED THIS AND MANY OTHER NATURAL SANALYSES DID NOTHING TE INFLYINGS.
IT PUT OVER 350 BILLION OF NEW TAXES ON AMERICA.
IT SUPERSIZED THE IRS TO GET THE IRS $80 BILLION OF NEW SPENDING.
THAT'S FIVE TIMES THE ANNUAL BUDGET OF THE IRS, WITH INSTRUCTIONS IN THAT BILL FOR THE IRS TO GET ANOTHER 100 TO 200 BILLION FROM AMERICAN TAXPAYERS SO THAT IT COULD BE SPENT.
THESE KINDS OF POLICIES ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE CAUSED THE TROUBLE.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO STOP THIS KIND OF EXCESSIVE SPENDING AND TO STOP THE INCREASED TAXATION OF AMERICANS AND TO GO BACK TO THE KIND OF ECONOMY THAT WE HAD PUT INTO PLACE.
WE JUST TALKED A BIT ABOUT THE TCJA, TAX REFORMS THAT WE DID BEFORE THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS TRIED TO UNWIND THEM.
UNDER THOSE TAX REFORMS, WE HAD REDUCED TAXES ON ALL AMERICANS, INCREASED CAPITAL FORMATION IN THE UNITED STATES, AND DEVELOPED THOSE THINGS I TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, THE STRONGEST ECONOMY THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN OUR LIFETIMES WITH REDUCED UNEMPLOYMENT.
I SEE MY TIME IS UP.
MANY OTHER THINGS WE HAVE DONE TO STRENGTHEN T. I WOULD LOOK BACK AT THAT.
>> THANK YOU.
MR. ROTH, SAME QUESTION AS I ASKED MR. CLEVELAND.
THE COUNTRY IS FACING RECORD BREAKING INFLATION.
WHAT WOULD YOU DO TO ADDRESS IT?
>> SO I THINK THAT WE DO NEED TO LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MAKE INVESTMENTS ON SUPPLY SIDE, SOMETHING I DO AGREE WITH SENATOR CRAPO WITH.
WE NEED TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES, OUR LOCAL COMMUNITIES.
WE NEED TO FOLLOW THROUGH ON THE PROVISIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FUTURE FORWARD.
THESE GREEN ENERGY PROPOSALS ARE TARGETED TO BUILD AMERICAN INDUSTRY AND MOVE US ON AND GIVE ADVANTAGE TO AMERICAN INDUSTRY, WHICH IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT DOING AS WE TRY TO REDUCE INFLATION.
WE'RE ALREADY SEEING IN THE LATEST RESULTS THAT INFLATION IN AUGUST HAD SLOWED CONSIDERABLY.
AND SO AS WE START TO SEE THAT INFLATION ON HOPEFULLY SOON DOWNWARD TREND WE'RE SEEING GAS PRICES ON A DOWNWARD TREND ACROSS THE COUNTRY, I THINK IT'S TIME TO SAY THAT THESE THINGS, THEY ARE A CYCLE.
WE'RE COMING OUT OF THE OF THE WORST PANDEMICS IN 100 YEARS.
OUR COUNTRY SAW THINGS WE HAVEN'T SEEN SINCE MY GRANDMOTHER WAS A LITTLE GIRL.
WE HAVE TO EXPECT SOME PAIN COMING OUT OF THAT.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO INSTEAD OF BEING OBSTRUCTIONIST TO EVERY SINGLE POLICY THAT COMES THROUGH, THEN SIT BACK AND COMPLAIN, HEY, WHAT WE'RE NOT ALLOWING YOU TO DO ISN'T WORKING.
WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER AND ACTUALLY LOOK FORWARD TO SOLUTIONS THAT WILL REDUCE THE PROBLEM.
YOU CAN SEE THAT THE AGENDA BEING PUT FORWARD IS ALREADY LIFTING US OUT OF THE PANDEMIC THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN, AND IS NOW MOVING US TOWARDS THOSE LOWER INFLATION NUMBERS.
>> TALKING ABOUT LOWER INFLATION NUMBERS, WHAT MR. ROTH IS REFERRING TO IS IT WENT DOWN FROM 8.5% TO 8.3%, CONSIDERED BY THE MARKETS TO BE A DISASTER.
THE INFLATION RATE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AT 2% OR LOWER AND IT'S NOW CONSISTENTLY HOLDING AT 8.5% OR HIGHER AND THE PRESIDENT AND MR. ROTH SAY WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS BAH WE GOT IT DOWN .2 OF A PERCENTAGE POINT SOMETHING LIKE 450% OVER WHAT IT USED TO BE P. THE BOTTOM LINE IS INFLATION IS STILL RAGING.
AS WE SPEAK THE MARKETS ARE COLLAPSING IN AMERICA BECAUSE THEY DON'T SEE SOLUTIONS TO THIS.
WE'RE SEEING GAS PRICES SURGE TODAY BECAUSE OPEC HAS REFUSED PRESIDENT BIDEN'S BEGGING TO INCREASE THEIR PRODUCTION OF OIL BECAUSE OF THE DESTRUCTION HE'S DONE TO OUR PRODUCTION OF OIL.
WE CONTINUE TO SEE THIS KIND OF CRISIS IN OUR ECONOMY BECAUSE WE AREN'T STOPPING THESE PROVISIONS.
THESE POLICIES.
BECAUSE WE AREN'T GOING BACK TO THE SENSIBLE KINDS OF MANAGEMENT OF OUR ECONOMY THAT WE DESPERATELY NEED IN AMERICA.
>> ODO YOU WANT TO RESPOND?
>> I WOULD.
I WOULD AGREE IT WAS A SMALL REDUCTION IN INFLATION BUT STILL A REDUCTION.
WE HAVE TO HAVE INDICATORS LEADING WHICH DIRECTION US IN THE DIRECTION WE'RE GOING TO GO.
ONCE AGAIN I REMIND YOU WE'RE COMING OUT OF A THERE'S DOUSE MESS LEFT BY THE LAD ADMINISTRATION AND THEIR MISHANDLING OF THE PANDEMIC AND DISASTROUS EFFECTS OF THE TAX CUTS THAT ADDED OVER 1.5 TRILLION TO THE DEFICIT OVER TEN YEARS AND ALSO GAVE WHAT I LIKE TO CALL FOR THE REPUBLICANS THE CUT AND RUN STRATEGY.
CUT THE TAXES AND RUN THAT MONEY RIGHT OUT OF OUR LOCAL ECONOMIES IN OUR COUNTRY INTO FOREIGN COUNTRIES.
YOU'VE SEEN COMPANIES THAT SUPPORT MY OPPONENT UP HERE WHO ARE SHIELDING 99% PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES ARE SHIELDING 99% OF THEIR PROFITS FROM U.S. TAXES EVEN THOUGH 75% OF THEIR REVENUE IS GENERATED IN THE U.S. THOSE KINDS OF POLICIES MOVE MONEY OUT OF OUR ECONOMY, NOT INTO OUR ECONOMY.
THEY DON'T BUILD WHAT WE NEE TO SEE HERE TO HELP US LIFT OUT OF THAT INFLATION AREA.
>> WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
S THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM CLARK CORBIN.
>> THIS IS FOR MR. CLEVELAND ABOUT ABORTION.
WHEN THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT OVERTURNED ROE VERSUS WADE THE COURT LEFT THE DECISION ON WHETHER TO LEGALIZE OR RESTRICT IDAHO HAD TRIGGER LAWS IN PLACE THAT SEVERELY RESTRICT ABORTION WHICH LED TO A REQUEST FOR AN INJUNCTION FROM THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
SO MR. CLEVELAND, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON ABORTION?
>> MY POSITION IS CLEARLY I'M A PRO-LIFE CANDIDATE.
I DO MAKE SEMTIONS IN THE CASE OF RAPE, INCENT OR LIFE OF THE MOTHER IS IN DANGER.
THE SUPREME COURT GOT THIS DECISION RIGHT.
ANYTHING THAT IS NOT IN THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION FALLS BACK TO THE STATES TO BE DETERMINED.
SADLY OUR SUPREME COURT IS NOT ALWAYS AS CONSISTENT AS THEY COULD BE ON REFERRING THINGS BACK TO THE STATES RIGHTS ISSUE BUT THEY DID GET IT RIGHT HERE IN IDAHO.
I THINK LIFE BEGINS AT CON SENDINGS.
I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT THE UNBORN.
I KNOW THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT BUT THAT'S MY POSITION.
I DO THINK THAT EVERY STATE IN THE COUNTRY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO MAKE THAT DECISION ON THEIR OWN.
>> THANK YOU, MR. CLEVELAND.
I WANT TO ASK MR. ROTH SAME QUESTION ABOUT ABORTION.
YOU HAVE EXPRESSED SUPPORT FOR WOMEN WHO CHOOSE TO HAVE AN ABORTION.
IF ELECTED HOW WOULD YOU WORK WITH OTHER U.S.
SENATORS WHO MAY HAVE A DIFFERING OPINION THAN YOU.
>> SO I BELIEVE THAT THOSE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS, THOSE RIGHTS THAT MAKE UP WHO WE ARE AS AMERICANS THAT DEFINE US ARE NOT LEFT UP TO THE STATES.
THEY NEED TO BE THE SAME REGARDLESS OF WHERE WE ARE.
IT'S COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS THAT TWO PEOPLE SITTING AT THE MODERATOR TABLE HAVE FEWER RIGHTS HERE THAN IF THEY DROVE AN HOUR WEST.
THAT'S COMPLETELY RIDICULOUS.
WE'RE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, ONE COUNTRY.
SO WHO YOU ARE AS A PERSON SHOULDN'T VARY FROM PLACE TO PLACE.
I ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT A WOMAN'S RIGHT OR AN INDIVIDUAL'S RIGHT TO CHOOSE.
WHAT THEY DO WITH THEIR OWN BODY AS FAR AS REPRODUCTIVE HEALTH AND ABORTION.
AS FAR AS WORKING WITH OTHER SENATORS IN CONGRESS I BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE SUPPORT AMONG THE DEMOCRATIC CAUCUS IF WE CAN JUST FLIP SOME MORE OF THESE SEATS TO SECURE THAT RIGHT, THAT INDIVIDUAL FUNDAMENTAL RIGHT, BACK TO THE PEOPLE OF THE COUNTRY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD ORK TOWARDS DOING.
WE HAVE ALREADY HAD THE BILL INTRODUCED ONCE WE JUST DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH SUPPORT TO PUSH IT THROUGH.
YOU SEE THAT EVEN THOUGH MIO OPPONENTS WOULD LIKE TO SAY IT'S A STATES RIGHTS ISSUE IN 2021, IN JANUARY, SENATOR CRAPO ACTUALLY CO-SPONSORED LINDSEY GRAHAM'S CURRENT BILL TO ACTUALLY IMPOSE THAT NATIONWIDE BAN ON ABORTION NATIONWIDE.
IN HIS MIND AT THAT TIME IT WASN'T A STATES' ISSUE IT WAS A FEDERAL ISSUE.
NOW THAT THE SHOE IS ON THE OTHER FOOT HE WOULD LIKE TO US THINK IT'S A STATES' ISSUE.
>> SENATOR CRAPO, I WANT TO ASK THE QUESTION A LITTLE DIFFERENT WAY N. LIGHT OF THE ROE VERSUS WADE DECISION INTO YOU THINK CONGRESS NEEDS TO PASS NATIONAL LEGLATION OR LEAVE IT UP TO THE STATES?
>> THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO, I DON'T BELIEVE CONGRESS SHOULD ACT ON THIS NOW.
THE REASON I SUPPORTED THAT THEN IS BECAUSE THAT WAS BEFORE THE DOBBS DECISION THAT MADE IT CLEAR THAT THIS IS A STATES' RIGHT ISSUE.
AT THIS POINT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD STAY OUT OF WHAT IS A STATES RIGHTS ISSUE AND ALLOW EACH INDIVIDUAL STATE TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS.
STATES RIGHTS ISSUES ARE GOING TO COME UP A LOT TODAY I EXPECT.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS HERE'S THE FIRST EXAMPLE.
I PERSONALLY ALSO AGREE WITH MR. CLEVELAND'S POINT THAT MY PERSONAL OPINION IS THAT ABORTION SHOULD ONLY BE ALLOWED IN THE CASE OF THE LIFE OF THE MOTHER OR RAPE AND INCEST.
BUT I MOST PARTICULARLY AGREE THAT STATES SHOULD EACH HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THIS DECISION ON THEIR OWN.
>> THANK YOU.
>> NEXT QUESTION IS FROM BETSY RUSSELL.
>> SENATOR CRAPO, YOU OPPOSED THE INFLATION REDUCTION CHACT INCLUDED SEVERAL DRUG PRICE REFORMS INCLUDING A SIGNIFICANT NEW ANNUAL LIMIT ON OUT OF POCKET DRUG COSTS FOR PEOPLE ON MEDICARE, THE NEW $35 CAP ON MONTHLY INSULIN COSTS FOR MEDICARE RECIPIENTS AND MORE Y.
HAVE YOU ALWAYS OPPOSED ALLOWING MEDICARE TO NEGOTIAE PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES AND WHAT DO YOU BELIEVE SHOULD BE DONE WITH REGARD TO PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICE REFORM.
>> I OPPOSED THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT BECAUSE IT WAS A TAX INCREASE ACT SUPERSIZED THE IRS ACT AND BLOW OUT SPENDING ACT OVER 500 BILLION OF NEW SPENDING P. HOWEVER, WITH REGARD TO DRUG PRICING AS YOU INDICATED I HAVE CONSISTENTLY OPPOSED YET AGAIN ANOTHER FEDERAL TAKEOVER OF OUR HEALTH CARE ECONOMY.
IEPRICE CONTROLS, PRICE FIXING BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IN DRUG PRICING.
I HAVE MY OWN LEGISLATION THAT IS BIPARTISAN AND BROADLY SUPPORTED CALLED THE LOWER COST MORE CURES ACT, WHICH ADDRESSES THE ISSUE OF THE SERIOUS AND REAL ISSUE OF DRUG PRICING REDUCTIONS THAT CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT HAVING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ENGAGE IN PRICE FIXING.
PRICE FIX HAG NEVER WORKED IN OUR ECONOMY AND IT WON'T WORK HERE.
IT'S GOING TO DRIVE UP THE STARTING COST OF DRUGS AND REDUCE THE RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT OF SUITABLE CURES.
MY BILL ENHANCES THE ABILITY OF MEDICARE TO FACILITATE AND HELP THE ABILITY TO DEAL WITH DRUG PRICING IN THE DISTRIBUTION OF MEDICARE.
IT ENHANCES THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ALTERNATIVES, AND SIMILAR THAT WILL HELP INCREASE COMPETITION IN THE MARKETS.
FOR INSULIN IT HAS A PROVISION THAT EXTENDS A TRUMP ERA RULE THAT REDUCED THE COST OF INSULIN IN MEDICARE TO UNDER $35.
THESE ARE THE KINDS OF SOLUTIONS WE NEED, NOT FEDERAL GOVERNMENT MARKET CONTROLS.
>> >> MR. CLEVELAND?
>> THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT WAS PASSED DESPITE SENATOR CRAPO'S VOTE AGAINST IT.
THAT'S CALLED POLITICAL COVER WHERE I COME FROM.
HE VOTES FOR SPENDING BILLS WHEN THEY NEED HIS VOTE WITH CHUCK SCHUMER AND NANCY PELOSI BUT THEN WHEN IT'S AN ELECTION YEAR AND A FEW MONTHS BEFORE THE ELECTION HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE SEEN IN A BAD LIGHT SO VOTES NO ON A BILL THAT PASS ANYWAY.
I WOULD LIKE TO POINT THAT OUT.
>> I WOULD LIKE TO OTALK ABOUT CONSTANTLY PRICE FIXING SCHEMES.
WHAT WE HAD BEFORE WAS A PRICE FIXING SCHEME.
WE HAD THE LARGEST PRESCRIPTION DRUG PROVIDER THEY WEREN'T ALLOWED TO NEGOTIATE THE PRICES.
THAT TO ME IS PRICE FIXING.
THAT LED TO US IN THE UNITED STATES PAYING 34% HIGHER PER CAPITA THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD FOR PRESCRIPTION DRUGS.
IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT AT BEST WE WERE SUBSIDIZING DRUG DEVELOPMENT FOR THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD AND AT WORST GETTING THE SHORT END OF THE STICK BECAUSE WE HAD OTHER COUNTRIES WILLING TO STAND UP FOR THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHEN OUR OWN SENATORS WERE NOT WILLING TO.
>> MR. ROTH, WHAT DO YOU SUPPORT DOING DIFFERENTLY?
>> I COMPLETELY SUPPORT THE FACT THAT MEDICARE SHOULD BE ABLE TO NEGOTIATE PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICING.
WHEN YOU ARE THE LARGEST PURCHASER OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS IN THE WORLD YOU SHOULD WIELD SOME POWER.
ISN'T THAT THE FREE MARKET, THAT SO MANY OFTENTIMES ARE CHAMPIONED?
I ALSO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD HAVE THAT CAP ON INSULIN.
I CAN GIVE YOU A PERSONAL EXAMPLE.
I'M A TYPE 2 DIETIC MY OWN MEDICATIONS UP UNTIL AUGUST 1 OF THIS YEAR MY CO-PAY WAS $74 FOR SUPPLY.
I WENT IN AT THE FIRST OF AUGUST AND MY CO-PAY JUMPED TO OVER $330.
SIMPLY BECAUSE THE MEDICATION HAD NOW BEEN APPROVED TO TREAT A DIFFERENT TYPE OF DISEASE.
THEREFORE DEMAND HAD SURGED AND THE PRICE WENT UP 300 SOME ODD PERCENT.
HI TO SPLIT IT UP AND PICK IT UP TWICE A WEEK.
THIS IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND IT'S WRONG.
HEALTH CARE NEEDS TO BE AFFORDABLE.
WE NEED THE SUPPORT OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT, THE SUPPORT OF INSURANCE OPTIONS AND OPTIONS TO REDUCE THOSE COSTS FOR AMERICANS ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
>> SENATOR CRAPO I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS.
>> FIRST OF ALL THE ATTACK THAT I HAVE BEEN VOTING FOR SPENDING THEN HIDING FROM IT IS FALSE.
I VOTED AGAINST EVERY SPENDING BILL IN THIS CONGRESS AND IN PREVIOUS CONSCIOUS.
MY RECORD IS SOLID.
SECONDLY WITH REGARD TO DRUG PRICE FIXING, THE FACT IS THAT DRUGS ARE NEGOTIATED NOW IN THE CURRENT SYSTEM BUT THAT NEGOTIATION PROCESS IS NOT WORKING.
MY BILKER THE LOWER COST MORE CURES ACT, FIXES THAT AND ADDRESSES THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE IN TRANSPARENCY IN THE NEGOTIATIONS SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THESE RESULTS WITHOUT HAVING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ONCE AGAIN TAKE OVER ANOTHER SECTOR OF OUR ECONOMY.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, WHAT WOULD YOU SUPPORT TO ADDRESS PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICING AND WITH DO YOU BELIEVE IS THE ROLE OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT?
>> I THINK WHEN YOU INTRODUCE COMPETITION INTO A MARKETPLACE YOU GET TWO OUTCOMES.
THIS IS TRUE NOT ONLY OF PRESCRIPTIONS BUT OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS.
ANY TIME YOU INTRODUCE COMPETITION YOU GET HIGHER QUALITY AT LOWER PRICES.
THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THE PHARMACEUTICAL INDUSTRY AS WELL AS OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS THROUGH SCHOOL CHOICE.
>> DON'T WE ALREADY HAVE COMPETITION AMONG OUR PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES?
>> WELL, IT'S VERY LIMITED COMPETITION, IT NOT TRUE COMPETITION MUCH LIKE INSURANCE IS NOT TRUE COMPETITION ACROSS STATE LINES.
>> THE NEXT FROM MER MARGARET CARAMEL.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, THE PAC ACT WAS THE LARGEST EXPANSION IN V.A.
HISTORY EXPANDING HEALTH CARE COVERAGE FOR VETERANS EXPOSED TO TOXICS BURNS.
>> EWOULD HAVE VOTED FOR THE ACT.
WE OWE A GREAT DEBT TO THE VETERANS OF THIS COUNTRY.
I UNDERSTAND ALL THE DYNAMICS OF WHAT WAS GOOD WITH THE BILL AND WHAT WAS BAD WITH THE BILL.
AGAIN, I HATE TO SOUND LIKE A I'M ATTACKING THE RECORD BUT OWN OWN SENATOR CRAPO VOTED AGAINST THAT BILL.
I HEARD HIS ?RANGS IT WAS LOADED WITH A BUNCH OF PORK $350 BILLION OF PORK.
HE DIDN'T MIND SPENDING 1.25 TRILLION ON GREEN ENERGY STUFF LAST SUMMER BUT YET THIS SUMMER WHEN IT COMES TO DOING THE SAME THING HE DEFERS AND VOTES AGAINST THE VETERANS SPENDING PORK.
FIRST OFF I WOULD PREFER NOBODY SPENDING ANY MONEY ON PORK BUT THAT'S NOT THE WORLD WE LIVE IN IN WASHINGTON D.C.
IF I HAD TO CHOOSE BETWEEN GREEN ENERGY OR OUR UNITED STATES MILITARY VET THAT WOULD BE THE VETERANS EVERY SINGLE TIME.
>> WHEN YOU SAY PORK WHAT DO YOU MEAN?
>> EXCESS SPENDING, $350 BILLION FOR IRS ACTS, THE TAX INCREASES.
THERE WERE BENEFITS DIRECTLY FOR VETERANS IN THAT BILL AND WE NEED TO SUPPORT THOSE PEOPLE.
THEY ARE ACTUALLY SUFFERING INJURIES AND THEY DESERVE TO BE TAKEN CARE OF.
IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
>> THANK YOU.
SENATOR CRAPO, ON THE SAME TOPIC WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST THE PAC ACT?
A MAJORITY OF YOUR COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE INCLUDING THOSE FROM YOUR SIDE OF THE AISLE SUPPORTED IT.
THERE WERE ONLY 14 NO VOTES.
WHY WERE YOU THEY WRONG AND YOU WERE RIGHT?
>> I VOTED AGAINST IT FOR THE VERY REASONS I HAVE BEEN ATTACKED BY MR. CLEVELAND.
IT PUTS $380 BILLION, A SLUSH FUND HOLE, TO ALLOW THE DEMOCRATS TO SPEND.
CHUCK SCHUMER HAS BEEN CONSISTENT ON THIS WHETHER IT'S THE PAC ACT OR OTHER ACTS PUSHED THROUGH.
WHEN HE SEES ONE THAT HAS REPUBLICAN SUPPORT HE ADDS A BOAT LOAD OF NEW SPENDING TO IT AND PUTS REPUBLICANS IN THE POSITION OF VOTING NO ON THINGS THEY SUPPORT OR OF AUTHORIZING HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS OF NEW SPENDING.
I DIDN'T DO IT BECAUSE THAT'S THE STRATEGY CHUCK SCHUMER WAS PUSHING.
I WILL SAY AS FAR AS VETERANS IN THE PACT ACT ONE OF THE LEAD PIECES WAS MY BILL.
THREE OR FOUR OF THE OTHER PIECES OF THE PACT ACT WERE LEGISLATION THAT I CO-SPONSORED.
VETERANS IN IDAHO KNOW THAT CONSISTENTLY ON THIS ISSUE AND.
OTHERS I HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE STRONGEST ADVOCATES FOR VETERANS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
I HAVE GONE ALL OVER IDAHO AND MET WITH VETERANS ACROSS THE STATE.
THEY GET IT.
THECH DON'T WANT TO BE USED AS A FOIL TO DRIVE UP THIS EXCESS SPENDING.
I WOULD NOTE MY OPPONENT MR. CLEVELAND HAS ATTACKED ME FOR VOTING FOR EXTRA SPENDING AND HE JUST SAID HE WOULD VOTE FOR $380 BILLION MORE SPENDING IN THIS BILL.
THAT HAS TO STOP IN WASHINGTON.
I HAVE VOTED AGAINST THE EXCESS SPENDING IN WASHINGTON.
>> THANK YOU.
MR. ROTH, SAME QUESTION, WOULD YOU HAVE VOTED FOR THE ACT?
WHY OR WHY NOT?
>> I ABSOLUTELY WOULD HAVE VOTED FOR T. WE ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THOSE VETERANS.
WE KNOW IN THE SENATE AND IN CONGRESS BILLS ARE OFTEN COMPROMISED, NOT EVERYBODY GETS EVERYTHING THEY WANT AND SOMETIMES THINGS GO THROUGH THAT WE DON'T WANT BUT WE CAN'T ALLOW VETERANS TO WAIT FOR THAT MUCH NEEDED CRITICAL CARE BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING THE SENATOR DOESN'T AGREE WITH.
AS FAR AS SPENDING GOES, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE NEED TO CONTROL OUR SPENDING AND MAKE SURE WE DIRECT IT BUT THESE TYPES OF CUT AND RUN STRATEGIES, THIS IDEA THAT I CAN'T VOTE FOR ANYTHING BECAUSE THERE'S EXCESS SPENDING IN IT, THAT'S THE REASON HE GAVE FOR NOT VOTING FOR THE STAND ALONE INSULIN CAP AND INFLATION REDUCTION ACT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T LIKE THE OVER ALL ACT SO HE VOTED AGAINST THE AMEND: HAD HE VOTED FOR THE AMENDMENT PEOPLE WITH PRIVATE INSURANCE WOULD HAVE A $35 INSULIN CAP ON THE WAY FOR THEM.
INSTEAD WE SAW THAT $35 CAP JUST GO OUT THE WINDOW.
I THINK THAT OFTEN WE NEED A SENATOR ABLE TO STRATEGICALLY WEIGH THE GOOD AND THE BAD AND REALIZE THAT NOT EVERY BILL IS GOING TO BE AN IDEAL BILL BUT JUST AS IT WAS OKAY TO ADD IN MY OPPONENT'S MIND ADD 1.5 TRILLION TO THE TAX BILL TO CUT TAXES FOR THE WEALTHY IT'S OKAY TO SPEND $350 BILLION TO HELP VETERANS THAT THEY DESERVE.
>> THIS IS FOR MR. CLEVELAND.
I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT EXTREMISM.
THE RISE IN EXTREMISM AND DIVISIVE POLITICAL RHETORIC WE HAVE SEEN IN IDAHO, ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND THE WORLD.
RECENT PUBLIC OPINION SURVEYS INCLUDING A 2021 SURVEY FROM THE FRANK CHURCH INSTITUTE AT BOISE STATE UNIVERSITY SHOWED 20% OF SURVEY RESPONDENTS BELIEVE THAT VIOLENCE IS JUSTIFIED IF PEOPLE DON'T THINK THEIR GOVERNMENT IS ACT NOT GUILTY THEIR BEST INTERESTS.
I WANTED TO ASK IF YOU AGREE WITH THAT OR WHETHER YOU THINK AS A CANDIDATE FOR OFFICE THERE'S A RESPONSIBILITY TO PUSH BACK AGAINST EXTREMISM AND DIVISIVENESS IN POLITICS AND RHETORIC TODAY.
>> I THINK WE LIVE IN A VERY POLARIZED SOCIETY.
I SEE THAT CONTINUING FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE.
WE LIVE IN POLARIZING TIMES HOWEVER I DON'T EVER CONDONE VIOLENCE.
THE 20% FIGURE THAT YOU MENTIONED I DON'T CONDONE ANY SORT OF POLITICAL VIOLENCE.
THERE'S NO PLACE FOR THAT IN A MODERN SOCIETY.
I THINK THAT PEOPLE THAT DO BREAK THE LAW FOR WHATEVER THEIR PRETEXT IS OR THEY THINK IS A JUST CAUSE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY BE DEALT WITH FAIRLY AND UNDER THE TERMS OF THE LAW.
DUE PROCESS NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT FORTH AND I THINK THAT WE DON'T NEED THAT IN OUR SOCIETY.
WE'RE ADVANCED ENOUGH THAT WE CAN SETTLE OUR DIFFERENCES WITHOUT RESORTING TO ANY FORM OF PHYSICAL VIOLENCE.
>> THANK YOU.
SAME QUESTION FOR MR. ROTH.
WHAT IS YOUR REACTION TO THE RISE IN EXTREMISM AND VIOLENCE AND POLITICAL DISCOURSE AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL HOW DO YOU PUSH BACK AGAINST THAT?
>> I THINK WE'RE ALL CONCERNED ABOUT ANY TIME WE SEE GROUPS OF PEOPLE ATTACKED FOR VARIOUS REASONS I KNOW THAT MANY PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY WATCHED AS WE SAW WHAT HAPPENED IN COEUR D'ALENE.
WE HAVE SEEN SITTING LEGISLATIONORS AS WELL AS PASTORS CALLING FOR EXECUTION OF PARTICULAR GROUPS OF PEOPLE IN THIS STATE.
THAT'S EXTREMISM.
WE SHOULD NEVER BE SINGLING OUT A GROUP.
I THINK IT STARTS AT THE TOP.
WE HAVE RELIGIOUS LEADERS.
WE HAVE STATE LEGISLATORS, OUR OWN FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAYING A MEMBER OF HIS OWN PARTY HAS A DEATH WISH.
WE HAVE ALL OF THESE EXAMPLES OF THAT FILTERING DOWN.
YOU LOOK AT SOMEONE WHO WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHO IS SAYING THAT'S OKAY, THAT'S HOW I ACT, IT SETS THE TONE FOR EVERYONE ELSE.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WE PUSH BACK AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY AND WE LOOK AT WAYS TO PROTECT OUR CITIZENS THEN BEYOND THAT I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT HOW DOES EXTREMISM GROW IN THE FIRST PLACE?
ONE OF THE MAIN WAYS IT GROWS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE VERY UNHAPPY.
HERE IN IDAHO THEY HAVE BEEN LIVING UNDER REPUBLICAN SUPERMAJORITY OVER 30 YEARS, NEARLY HALF CAN'T AFFORD TO MAKE ENDS MEET.
THEY ARE VERY UNHAPPY.
WE NEED TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN OUR COMMUNITIES AND IN OUR STATE TO TRY TO IMPROVE THOSE SITUATIONS AND AND STARVE OUT EXTREMISM.
>> SENATOR CRAPO, AS A SITTING U.S.
SENATOR HOW DO YOU PUSH BACK?
HOW DO YOU FIGHT EXTREMISM AND CALLS FOR POLITICAL VIOLENCE?
>> FIRST OF ALL THE VIOLENT EXTREMISM YOU DISCUSSED HAS NO PLACE IN AMERICAN SOCIETY.
IT NEEDS TO BE INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTE WRD IT CROTIONS THE PROS PROSECUTED WHERE IT CROSSES THE LINE.
THE POINT IS WELL TAKEN, THOUGH, THAT ONE OF THE BEST WAYS THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH IT IS TO STRENGTHEN PEOPLE'S LAGS.
PEOPLE TODAY ARE FRUSTRATED AT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THEM WITH THE INFLATION, WHEN THEY GO TO THE GAS PUMP AND THEY SEE THEY ARE PAYING DOUBLE OR TRIPLE WHAT THEY USED TO PAY.
THEY ARE FRUSTRATED WITH THE FENTANYL AND ALL OF THE PROBLEMS WE SEE WITH SUCH AN OPEN BORDER.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT.
I WANT TO TAKE THE REST OF MY TIME TO RESPOND IN THIS CONTEXT TO AN ATTACKED MR. ROTH MADE ON ME THREE TIMES SAYING THAT THE TAX REFORM THAT WE PASSED IN 2019 HAS RESULTED IN -- I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH, 1.5 TRILLION OR WHATEVER THE NUMBER WAS OF DEFICIT SPENDING.
THAT TAX ACT GENERATED MORE INCOME IN THE TREASURY AND GREW OUR ECONOMY PHENOMENALLY, BUILT US THE STRONGEST ECONOMY WE HAVE SEEN IN PROBABLY OUR LIFETIMES.
REDUCED INFLATION, REDUCED THE DEFICIT AND PUT US INTO A POSTURE OF BUILDING THE INCOMES OF INDIVIDUALS ACROSS THE COUNTRY IN ALL INCOME CATEGORIES BEYOND WHAT IT WAS BEFORE.
I'LL MAKE THIS LAST POINT.
THE GROWTH IN PERSONAL INCOME IN MEDIAN INCOME FOR PEOPLE ACROSS THE LOWER AND MIDDLE INCOME CATEGORIES WENT UP.
THAT WAS THE ONE TIME IN THE RECENT PAST THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY SEEN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE WEALTHY AND THOSE IN LOWER INCOME CATEGORIES DIMINISH BECAUSE WE WERE GROWING OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.
>> MR. ROTH, I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO RESPOND.
>> SO THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE IS WHO CAME UP WITH THE 1.5 TRILLION ESTIMATE FOR WHAT IT WILL ADD TO THE DEFICIT.
THAT'S NOT SOMETHING I PULLED OUT OF THIN AIR.
THAT'S THE STATED ESTIMATE THAT CAME FROM THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE.
ALSO WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TAX CUTS AND JOBS ACT DID IT DID AFFECT INCOM TAXES AT ALL LEVELS HOWEVER IT AFFECTED THOSE AT THE TOP, THE WEALTHIEST, THE MOST.
WE'RE LOOKING TO SEE THAT INCOME GAP INCREASE OVER TIME.
I THINK THAT THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT ADDRESSING.
HOW DO WE BRING THAT BACK DOWN AND CLOSE THAT GAP.
>> THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE WAS WRONG AND IT WON'T BE THE LAST TIME THEY WERE WRONG.
>> OKAY -- >> REAL QUICK FOLLOW-UP FOR SENATOR CRAPO BECAUSE HE HAS A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.
YOU WERE SERVING IN THE U.S. SENATE, IN WASHINGTON JANUARY 6th DURING THE CAPITOL RIOT.
HOW WOULD YOU CHARACTERIZE WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY GIVEN YOUR UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE.
>> I WAS THERE THAT DAY AND I REJECTED THE VIOLENCE THAT OCCURRED AND SAID THAT THAT VIOLENCE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED AND PROSECUTED.
THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE, THE FBI HAS BEEN DOING JUST THAT.
I BELIEVER OVER 900 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY HAVE ALL BEEN PROSECUTED YET BUT THEY ARE BEING IDENTIFIED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.
THAT NEEDED TO HAPPEN.
WE SHOULD NEVER SEE THAT HAPPEN IN THE UNITED STATES.
>> THANK YOU, SENATOR.
>> NEXT QUESTION IS FROM BETSY RUSSELL FOR MR. CLEVELAND.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, YOU SAID PUBLICLY THAT YOU DO NOT SUPPORT THE LAST ELECTION PROCESS.
WHAT CHANGES WOULD YOU PROPOSE TO SECURE ELECTION IFS ELECTED AND WOULD YOU SUPPORT THE BIPARTISAN ELECTORAL COUNT ?ACT.
>> I WOO-WOO NOT SUPPORT THAT.
WE DO CLEARLY NIEDERE FORMS.
THE SUBJECT OF THE INTEGRITY OF THE 2020 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION GOES ACROSSTHIS COUNTRY AND THE LATEST RASMUSSEN POLL BELIEVES 52% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE IT'S SOMEWHAT LIKELY THAT THAT VOTE COUNT WAS NOT COUNTED CORRECTLY AND THAT IT WOULD HAVE LIKELY AFFECTED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION.
WEE NOT TALKING ABOUT A SMALL GROUP OF TIN FOIL HAT PEOPLE THAT SEE THE ELECTION RESULTS WITH A FAIR AMOUNT OF QUESTION.
BUT ELECTION INTEGRITY IS NOT AN EASY ISSUE TO SOLVE.
IT STARTS WITH CLEANING UP THE VOTER ROLES.
IN IDAHO THEY ARE NOT SQUEAKY CLEAN.
I WORKED WITH A GROUP CALLED ELECTION INTEGRITY IDAHO WHICH HAS 500 MEMBERS AND WE HAVE BEEN DOING A DEEP DIVE INTO THE ELECTION PROCESS IN IDAHO.
IT STARTS WITH CLEANING UP THE VOTER ROLES ROLLS.
I DON'T LIKE THE WAY THE MACHINES WORK.
I SPENT THREE HOURS WITH THE COUNTY CLERK, AND AFTER LEARNING HOW THE MACHINES WORKED AND TAB UH LATORS AND SOFTWARE I ASKED HIM TO HIS FACE, DO YOU CONTROL THAT SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE AS THE COUNTY CLERK IN THE LARGEST COUNTY?
OR DOES SOMEONE ELSE CONTROL IT?
HIS ANSWER WAS I DON'T YOL THAT SOFTWARE.
THE PEOPLE THAT SELL THE MACHINES AND SOFTWARE CONTROL THAT.
UNTIL SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE CLEARED UP VOTERS ARE NOT GOING TO HAVE A HIGH LEVEL OF TRUST IN THESE SYSTEMS.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, WHY WOULD YOU NOT SUPPORT THE BIPARTISAN ELECT TROPICAL STORM COUNTING?
>> I THINK IT'S GOING TO CHANGE HOW THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE IS WORKING FOR I'M NOT MISTAKING YOUR QUESTION CORRECTLY.
>> WHAT DO YOU THINK IS WRONG WITH OUR VOTER ROLLS IN IDAHO?
>> PEOPLE VOTE IN THIS STATE INCLUDING IN THE LAST PRIMARY THAT DON'T LIVE IN THE STATE ANY MORE.
I WENT OUT CANVASSING WITH A FRIEND OF MINE THAT RUNS THIS ELECTION INTEGRITY GROUP.
WE WENT TO FIVE HOUSES ON A SUNDAY AFTERNOON WITH PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY VOTED IN THE MAY PRIMARY.
AT ONE HOUSE WE STOPPED AT WE SHOWED THEM A LIST OF WHO VOTED FROM THAT RESIDENCE.
THERE WERE SIX PEOPLE AND ONLY ONE OF THE PERSONS HAVE LIVED THERE IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
I SAW IT WITH MY OWN EYES.
THAT'S WHY I SAY OUR VOTERS ROLLS ARE NOT AS TIGHT AND SQUEAKY CLEAN AS OUR SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD LIKE US TO BELIEVE.
>> YOU VOTED TO CERTIFY THE ELECTION.
THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T BELIEVE THE LAST ELECTION WAS VALID.
THE LEADING CONTENDER FOR THE REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION DONALD TRUMP REPEATEDLY SAYS IT WASN'T VALID.
WOULD YOU SUPPORT A 2024 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO DENIED THE LEGAL AND VALID ELECTION?
>> FRANKLY, BOTTOM LINE THERE ARE ALLEGATIONS THAT THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT FRAUD IN THE LAST ELECTION THAT WAS NOT IDENTIFIED AND CORRECTED.
I AGREE WITH MR. CLEVELAND THAT THAT COULD HAVE CHANGED THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION BUT THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE HERE.
THE ISSUE IS YOUR FIRST QUESTION.
WHICH IS WHAT SHOULD WE DO ABOUT IT.
I'LL GET BACK TO MY POINT INTEREST STATES'S RIGHTS.
THE STATES SHOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE KIND OF -- TO OPERATE THE KIND OF ELECTIONS THAT THE CONSTITUTION GIVES THEM AUTHORITY FOR RATHER THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THAT INCLUDES VOTER I.D.
REQUIREMENTS DURING VOTING.
IT INCLUDES SUPERVISED BALLOT DROP BOXES RATHER THAN BALLOT HARVESTING AND LETTING PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T EVEN CAST A BALLOT BE THE ONE WHO PUT THE BALLOT INTO THE DROP BOX.
IT INCLUDES CLEANING UP THE VOTER ROLLS, ALLOWING THE STATES TO BASICALLY TAKE THOSE WHO HAVE PASS AD WAY OR MOVED OUT OF THE STATE OR OTHERS WHO ARE NOT CITIZENS OR WHO ARE NOT RESIDENTS TO BE REMOVED FROM THE VOTER ROLLS.
ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE UNDER ATTACK IN WASHINGTON RIGHT NOW.
>> SENATOR, DO YOU SUPPORT THE BIPARTISAN ELECTORAL COUNT ACT?
>> I DO NOT.
STATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO CONTROL THE ELECTION AND IT'S THE STATES THROUGH THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE THAT ELECT THE PRESIDENT.
WE HAVE A CONSTITUTION, THE 12th AMENDMENT, WHICH LAYS OUT THE PROCEDURES AND WE HAVE AN ELECTORAL COUNT ACT OF 1887 THAT FURTHER LAYS OUT THE PROCEDURES.
THOSE ARE THE PROCEDURES I BELIEVE WE SHOULD FOLLOW.
THE ELECTOAL COUNT ACT IS AN EFFORT TO GO ONE STEP FURTHER IN FACILITATING CONGRESSIONAL ENGAGEMENT ON VOTE COUNTING AND LITERALLY THE MANAGEMENT OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE AND I DO NOT SUPPORT THAT.
>> IT ALSO MAKES CHANGES TO SPECIFICALLY AVOID WHAT WE SAW ON JANUARY 6th WITH THE EFFORTS TO PUSH THE VICE PRESIDENT TO REJECT THE RESULTS AND SO FORTH.
DO YOU THINK WE DON'T NEED ANY CHANGES THERE?
>> NO, THE 12th AMENDMENT AND THE ACT DEALS SPECIFICALLY WITH I WOULD LIKE TO GO FURTHER.
WHEN I TALK ABOUT FACILITATING FEDERAL TAKEOVER OF STATES' RIGHTS LET'S LOOK AT SENATE BILL 1, THE BILL THAT WAS WHAT THE DEMOCRATS WANTED TO PASS.
THAT WAS A BILL WHICH FIRST OF ALL PROHIBITED VOTER I.D.
REQUIREMENTS FOR MAIL-IN BALLOTS.
MANDATED THAT THE STATES ALLOW UNSUPERVISED BALLOT BOXES.
PROHIBITED STATES FROM DOING THE CLEANUP OF THEIR LISTS.
MANY OTHER THINGS.
THAT WAS A FEDERAL TAKEOVER OF WHAT IS A STATES' RIGHT.
I DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR ANY LETTING AUTHORIZATION WOULD SUPPORT ANY STEP TOWARD FACILITATING OR LEGITIMIZING FEDERAL ENGAGEMENT IN SETTING ELECTION RULES.
ELECTIONS ARE STATE RESPONSIBILITIES UNDER THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION AND THEY SHOULD STAY THAT WAY.
>> MR. ROTH, AS A CANDIDATE FOR THE U.S. SENATE, HOW WOULD YOU RESTORE TRUST IN ELECTION RESULTS AND WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON THE BIPARTISAN ELECT TORL COUNT ACT?
>> I THINK THAT IT IS ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT AS ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL WHEN WE'RE IN AN ELECTION THAT WE ACCEPT THE RESULTS AS THEY COME OUT.
WIN OR LOSE, I THINK THE CONFIDENCE STARTS WITH US AT THE TOP.
PART OF THE REASON I THINK YOU'VE SEEN SO MUCH WIDESPREAD BELIEF IN THE ELECTION ALLEGATIONS OF 2020 IS BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEVERAL YEARS LATER THE FORMER PRESIDENT STILL PUSHING THOSE SAME THEORIES EVEN THOUGH HE'S NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND ANY AMOUNT OF WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD AND CERTAINLY NOT FOR LACK OF TRYING.
WE'VE SEEN 'IDAHO IN ARIZONA AND OTHER STATES.
MIKE LINDELL CAME HERE TO IDAHO AND AUDITED BUTTE COUNTY IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN TO MAKE SURE THERE WAS NO IRREGULARITIES THERE.
IT STARTS FROM THE TOP DOWN.
WE NEED TO INSTILL THAT CONFIDENCE IN THE SYSTEM.
WIN OR LOSE.
I WOULD SUPPORT THE ELECTORAL ACT THAT YOU DESCRIBED.
MOSTLY BECAUSE I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY IMPORTANT THAT WE PROTECT SOMETHING FROM LIKE JANUARY 6th FROM EVER HAPPENING AGAIN.
ABSOLUTELY CRITICAL THAT WE DO NOT HAVE OUR CAPITOL OVERRUN.
THIS TIME IT WAS STOPPED BECAUSE WE HAD PEOPLE WILLING TO STAND FIRM, BUT IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE WHO KNOWS WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN NEXT TIME.
CONSIDERING THAT WE ARE CONSTANTLY HEARING FOR VIOLENCE IN THE STREETS, SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON IN A POLITICAL ARENA SAFE TO ASSUME WE HAVE THOSE TYPES OF DISCOURSE TO LOOK FORWARD TO IN THE FUTURE.
>> MR. CLEVELAND I'LL GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS TO RESPOND.
>> I WATCHED THE ELECTION LIVE.
I HAD A WATCH PARTY AT MY HOUSE WITH ABOUT 30 OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS AND I HAVE NEVER SAT THROUGH AN ELECTION WHERE THEY STOPPED COUNTING VOTES AT 10:00 P.M.
IN CRITICAL SWING STATES.
AT A VERY MINIMUM, AT THE LEAST THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A CALL FOR INVESTIGATION INTO THIS ELECTION AND THERE WAS NEVER ONE.
THAT'S AN INJUSTICE AND DISSERVICE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> MR. ROTH?
>> THAT THERE WAS NEVER AN INVESTIGATION?
WE SAW HUGE INVESTIGATIONS IN ARIZONA.
WE SAW CALLS FOR -- >> I'M TALKING ABOUT A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION OF THE ENTIRE ELECTION.
>> WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THEM, THE STATES ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE TO SAY WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THAT AS SECT.
I REALIZE THAT SEEMS SOMEWHAT CONTRADICTORY BUT THE STATES RUN THE ELECTIONS, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD SET THE GUIDELINES.
THE STATES HAVE TO SAY THEIR ELECTION RESULTS ARE CORRECT OR NOT.
THEY ALL CERTIFIED THEIR RESULTS AND EVEN WHEN YOU HAD AUDITS AFTERWARDS NONE FOUND ANY EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD.
>> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM CLARK CORBIN.
I WANT TO CHANGE GEARS A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS FOR MR. CLEVELAND ABOUT SALMON.
I WANTED TO ASK WHAT YOU THINK OF U.S.
CONGRESSMAN MIKE SIMPSON'S CONCEPT PLAN SURROUNDING THE SALMON WHICH CALLS FOR BREACHING OF FOUR DAMS, OFFSETTING THE IMPACT, WHAT REPRESENTATIVE SIMPSON SAID WAS NECESSARY TO PREVENT EXTENSION OF THE SALMON.
WHAT SHOULD BE DONE ABOUT THE ISSUE?
>> I THINK HIS PLAN IS A REALLY BAD ONE FOR MANY REASONS.
NUMBER ONE THOSE DAMS PROVIDE VERY VALUABLE CLEAN HYDROELECTRIC POWER, CLEAN ENERGY, AT A TIME WHEN WE NEED IT MORE THAN EVER.
I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST SALMON.
I'M A FISHERMAN MYSELF.
I HAVE BEEN ON THE SOUTH FORK OF THE BOISE RIVER AND HAD A BRIGHT RED SALMON SWIM BETWEEN MY LEGS.
I LOVE FISH.
IT'S AMAZING THEY MAKE IT FROM THE PACIFIC TO RED FISH LAKE AND BEYOND WITHOUT HAVING BREACHED THE DAMS.
I THINK HIS IDEA THAT THAT IS SOMEHOW GOING TO DRASTICALLY INCREASE THE POPULATION OF THE SALMON HERE IN IDAHO, I THINK IT'S A MISTAKEN BELIEF.
I DON'T HIS HEART IS IN THE WRONG PLACE IT'S JUST A BAD WAY TO GO ABOUT TRYING TO INCREASE FISH POPULATIONS.
A BAD IDEA FOR FARMERS AS WELL.
>> IS THERE ANY ACTION YOU WOULD TAKE REGARDING SALMON, THE DWINDLING NUMBERS, INCREASED EXPENSES THAT BONNEVILLE POWER IS PAYING?
IS THERE ANY ACTION THAT YOU THINK THAT YOU WOULD FAVOR TAKING OR ARE THINGS OKAY AS THEY ARE NOW?
>> I'LL BE HONEST I THINK THINGS ARE OKAY AS THEY ARE.
IT'S A COMPLEX ISSUE.
YOU CAN'T START SHOOTING ALL THE SEA LIONS IN CALIFORNIA THAT EAT THE THINGS.
>> THANK YOU.
MR. ROTH, THE SAME QUESTION.
YOUR REACTION TO CONGRESSMAN SIMPSON'S PROPOSAL SURROUNDING THE SALMON, WHAT YOU THINK OF THE IDEA AND WHETHER YOU THINK YOU HAVE ANY PROPOSALS FOR ADDRESSING THE ISSUE.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
IT IS A COMPLEX ISSUE AND THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PIECES.
I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THERE'S MORE INFORMATION OUT THERE AVAILABLE THAN WHAT I HAVE BEEN -- WHAT'S BEEN AVAILABLE TO ME HOWEVER I THINK ONE THING WE SEE IS WE ARE SEEING CRITICAL DECLINES IN THE SALMON POPULATION.
WE NEED TO TAKE PDX.
JUST BECAUSE SOME SALMON ARE MAKING IT UP INTO THE LAKES DOESN'T MEAN ENOUGH TO SUSTAIN THE POPULATION ARE MAKING IT.
I ALSO WOULD ASK YOU TO LOOK AT OTHER DAMS AND RESERVOIR ISSUES IN THIS COUNTRY.
WE HAVE A SEVERE WATER SHORTAGE IN THE WESTERN UNITED STATES AND IT'S LIKELY IN COMING YEARS THOSE HYDROELECTRIC DAMS MAY NOT ABLE ABLE TO PRODUCE THE AMOUNTS OF ELECTRICITY THEY ARE CURRENTLY PRODUCING.
RATHER THAN WAIT UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE WE SHOULD LOOK AT WAYS TO OFFSET THAT NOW.
THERE'S PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE CLEAN ENERGY THAT WOULD REPLACE THAT ELECTRIC OFFSET.
I CAN GUARANTEE PEOPLE DEPENDENT ON LAKE POWELL AND LAKE MEAD WISH THOSE STEPS WERE TAKEN BEFORE THEY WERE IN THE SITUATION THEY ARE IN.
WE NEED TO STOP WAITING UNTIL THE LAST MINUTE.
WE CAN BE PROACTIVE SAYING IN LONG RUN WE'RE LIKELY GOING TO LOSS THOSE DAMS BECAUSE OF THE WATER SHORTAGE IN THE WEST.
I DO THINK THAT WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING.
I WOULD LOOK AT ANY AND EVERY OPTION TO FAVOR SALMON AND REPLACE THOSE ECONOMIC IMPACTS THAT WE DISCUSSED.
>> THANKS.
I WANT TO TURN TO SENATOR CRAPO.
IN JULY YOU SAID YOU OPPOSED REACHING THE FOUR LOWER SNAKE RIVER DAM.
I WANT TO ASK IF YOU HAVE AN ALTERNATIVE PROPOSAL ASIDE FROM BREACHING THE DAMS OR WHETHER YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT THE LOSS OF SALMON POPULATION IN THE COLUMBIA RIVER BASIN.
>> FIRST NO I DON'T SUPPORT PROPOSALS TO HAVE A CONGRESSIONAL CRAM DOWN OF DAM BREACHING.
SALMON ARE AN ICON IN THE TO PRESERVE AND STRENGTHEN THEM.
I HAVE BEEN ENGAGED IN THIS BATTLE FOR YEARS.
THE BOTTOM LINE HERE IS THAT EVEN SENATOR MURRAY AND GOVERNOR INSLEE IN THE STATE OF WASHINGTON EVALUATED THIS AND SAID A CONGRESSIONAL CRAM-DOWN IS NOT THE SOLUTION.
WHY?
BECAUSE THERE ARE MULTIPLE STAKEHOLDERS AND MULTIPLE INTERESTS ACROSS THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST WHO HAVE VERY DIFFERENT POSITIONS ON THIS ISSUE.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS THE THING I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR A DECADE NOW.
THAT IS GET THE VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS TOGETHER AND WORK OUT A COMPROMISE SOLUTION, A CONSENSUS PLAN THAT CAN REACH THE KINDS OF SOLUTIONS WE WANT TO ACHIEVE.
AS YOU MAY KNOW I DID THE SAME KIND OF ANYTHING THE WILDERNESS, THE SAME KIND OF THING IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF IDAHO WITH REGARD TO OUR NATURAL RESOURCE MANAGEMENT.
WE CAN DO IT.
WHEN WE GET PEOPLE TOGETHER BECAUSE PEOPLE ACROSS IDAHO SUPPORT THE SALMON AND MANY OF THEM SUPPORT THE DAMS.
THERE ARE WIN-WIN SOLUTIONS THAT WE CAN FIND WHERE WE CAN BUILD THE POLITICAL CONSENSUS TO MOVE FORWARD.
IF WE JUST HAVE A CONGRESSIONAL CRAM-DOWN RIGHT NOW, WHATEVER HAPPENS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE PERMANENT.
THERE WILL BE POLITICAL OPPOSITION.
THERE WILL BE COURT BATTLES.
THERE WILL BE CONTINUOUS WARFARE OVER THIS ISSUE UNTIL WE GET TOGETHER AND BUILD CONSENSUS BASED OLUTIONS TO THE ISSUE.
THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
>> THE NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM MARGARET CARAMEL.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, WOULD YOU HAVE SUPPORTED THE CHIPS IN SCIENCE ACT IN THE UNITED STATES?
>> YES.
WE'RE AT A DISADVANTAGE IN OUR CHIP DEPARTMENT.
YOU'VE SEEN SUPPLY CHAIN SHORTAGE OVER THE LAST 12 TO 18 MONTHS IN THIS COUNTRY WHERE WE LITERALLY HAD TO WAIT SIX MONTHS TO GET YOUR BRAND NEW PUKE.
NOT BECAUSE FORD COULDN'T MANUFACTURING IT FAST ENOUGH BUT BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET THE CHIPS.
MY:JUST ANNOUNCED AN $18 BILLION EXPANSION AND I WOULD HAVE SUPPORTED THAT AND SENATOR CRAPO DID NOT YET HE SHOWED UP FOR THE RIBBON CUTTING A FEW DAYS AGO.
TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION DIRECTLY I WOULD HAVE AWB ABSOLUTELY SUPPORTED IT.
>> THANK YOU.
SENATOR CRAPO, WHY DID YOU VOTE AGAINST IT?
YOU APPLAUDED THE ANNOUNCEMENT BUT WEREN'T ONE OF THE YES VOTES ON THAT BILL.
>> ABSOLUTELY.
I WAS ONE OF THOSE -- THERE WERE TWO KEY PIECES OF THE CHIPS ACT.
ONE WAS AN INVESTMENT TAX CREDIT PIECE OF LEGISLATION AND THE OTHER A GRANT PROGRAM.
I WAS THE DRAFTER.
IT WAS MY BILL.
THE ITC PORTION OF THAT LEGISLATION.
I WORKED VERY HARD TO GET THE CHIPS PROVISIONS IN THAT LEGISLATION MOVED FORWARD.
BUT AT THE END SENATOR SCHUMER DID HIS SAME THING HE DID ON THE PACT ACT AROUND OTHER ACTS HE PUT ANOTHER $200 BILLION OF SPENDING INTO THE BILL.
THE FOLKS AT MY:KNOW THAT I'M A LONG TIME SUPPORTER OF THEIRS AND THAT THIS WOULD NOT HAVE COME TO THE FOREFRONT HAD I NOT DRAFTED THE LEGISLATION THAT WAS PASSED.
BUT THEY ALSO KNOW THE REASONS I VOTED NO.
THAT IS I'M NOT GOING TO SUPPORT AN EXTRA $200 BILLION OF SPENDING BECAUSE THEY HIJACKED MY ISSUE.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS THIS.
MY OPPONENT IS CRITICIZING ME FOR THIS AND YET HE'S ALSO CRITICIZING ME FOR VOTING FOR SPENDING PROGRAMS IN WASHINGTON.
YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS.
THIS IS A STANDARD PRACTICE THAT SENATOR SCHUMER IS FOLLOWING ON ISSUE AFTER ISSUE AFTER ISSUE.
FINDING BILLS THAT HAVE REPUBLICAN SUPPORT, PILING THEM FULL OF EXTRA SPENDING THEN EXPECTING REPUBLICANS, HE'S GOT US IN A BIND, WE EITHER VOTE AGAINST IT AND GET THIS KIND OF QUESTIONS OR WE VOTE FOR IT AND VOTE FOR ANOTHER 200 BILLION OF HIS SPENDING SPREE.
BY THE WAY, IF WE HAD DEFEATED THE BILL WITH HIS SPENDING SPREE IN IT WE WOULD HAVE MOVED IT FORWARD WITHOUT THAT AND STILL GOTTEN IT PASSED.
>> MR. CLEVELAND?
>> SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF COULD HAVE, WOULD HAVE, SHOULD HAVE TO ME.
>> MR. ROTH WOULD YOU HAVE SUPPORTED IT?
>> ABSOLUTELY.
THE WE RECONTINUE TO BUILD OUR ECONOMY THE WAY WE LIFT OURSELVES OUT OF THESE INFLATIONARY PRESSURES THAT WE'RE GOING TO DECREASE THE NUMBER OF IDAHO YANEZ FALLING IN THAT NOT MAKING ENDS MEET CATEGORY IS FURTHER INVESTMENT IN OUR STATE.
THE CHIPS IN SCIENCE ACT IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THAT.
IT PUTS US ON A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD WITH OTHER COUNTRIES SUCH AS CHINA, CURRENTLY ONE OF OUR LARGEST SUPPLIERS OF CHIPS AND MICROCHIPS.
IT PUTS US ON A MORE EVEN PLAYING FIELD WHERE I FEEL IT'S A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE.
I ONCE AGAIN FEEL WHAT I'M HEARING FROM SENATOR CRAPO IS HE'S UNWILLING TO COMPROMISE NO MATTER THE LEVEL OF GOOD IF THERE'S ANYTHING ABOUT THE BILL THAT HE DOESN'T LIKE.
UNFORTUNATELY THAT LEVEL OF REFUSING TO COMPROMISE IS PART OF WHY WE HAVE SO MUCH OBSTRUCTION AND SO LITTLE GETTING DONE IN WASHINGTON.
SO WE NEED TO LOOK AT WAYS TO COMPROMISE, TO GET THOSE INVESTMENTS INTO IDAHO, GET THOSE INVESTMENTS INTO THE OTHER STATES IN OUR COUNTRY AS WELL.
HONESTLY THE GRANT INFLAMMATORY WILL PUSH INTO SCIENCE AND EXPAND OTHER WAYS THAT WE CAN LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT ONE THING COMPLAINED ABOUT WAS THE FACT THAT THE CREDITS WERE GEARED MORE TOWARDS AMERICAN COMPANIES FOR SOLAR PANELS AND SOLAR CARS.
THAT AFFECTED CHINA NEGATIVELY.
IN THIS CASE WE HAVE ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE THIS BILL AFFECTS CHINA NEGATIVELY AND IT SEEMS QUITE CURIOUS THAT OFTEN WE HAVE BILLS GETTING NOT GETTING THE SUPPORT FROM OUR SITTING SENATOR WHO AFFECT CHINA NEGATIVELY.
>> NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM BETSY RUSSELL.
>> THE OVERTURNING OF ROE VERSUS WADE HAS LED TO FEARS FROM SOME AMERICANS THAT SAME SEX MARRIAGE PROTECTIONS OL' COULD ALSO BE OVERTURNED BY THE SUPREME COURT.
BIPARTISAN LEGISLATIONIVE EFFORTS IN THE SENATE TO CODIFY SAME-SEX MARRIAGE HAVE BEEN DELAYED UNTIL AFTER THE MIDTERMS.
WOULD YOU SUPPORT, SENATOR CRAPO, THE FEDERAL CODIFICATION OF PROTECTIONS FOR SAME-SEX MARRIAGE?
>> I WILL NOT SUPPORT THE LEGISLATION THAT IS BEING PROPOSED IN THE SENATE NOW.
WHAT IT DOES IS REQUIRE EVERY SINGLE STATE TO AGREE WITH WHATEVER ANY OTHER STATE DECIDES IS A MARRIAGE.
THAT BASICALLY AGAIN VIOLATES STATES' RIGHTS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT THE STATES UNDER OUR CONSTITUTION HAVE THE RIGHT TO DETERMINE.
I'M THINKING ABOUT THE POTENTIAL RISK HERE THAT THIS PRESENTS TO WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO BELIEVE IN A TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN.
I HAVE GOT A LETTER FROM THE CATHOLIC COUNCIL OF CATHOLIC BISHOPS SAYING THEY ARE VERY WORRIED THAT THEIR RELIGIOUS BELIEFS ABOUT WHAT IS A MARRIAGE WILL THREATEN THEIR TAX STATUS OR WILL THREATEN THEIR ACTIVITIES IN CERTAIN WAYS.
WE'RE ALL AWARE OF HOW PEOPLE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR HAVE ALREADY BEEN THREATENED BY THE ADMINISTRATION WITH REGARD TO BAKERS WHO DON'T WANT TO PARTICULARLY RECOGNIZE A CERTAIN THING OR OTHERS A CERTAIN TYPE OF MARRIAGE OR OTHERS IN THE SOCIETY WHO WANT TO PURSUE THEIR OWN BELIEFS ABOUT THIS.
I BELIEVE WE NEED TO LET AGAIN THE STATES HAVE THE RIGHT TO MAKE THESE DETERMINATIONS RATHER THAN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.
THIS IS ONE MORE EXAMPLE, I TOLD YOU THERE WOULD BE A NUMBER OF THEM IN THIS DEBATE, WHERE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO HAVE A FEDERAL RULE THAT FORCES ALL STATES TO FOLLOW ITS LAW.
WE CANNOT DO THAT.
>> SENATOR IN IDAHO WE HAVE A STATE BAN ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE YET SAME-SEX MARRIAGE HAS BEEN LEGAL IN IDAHO SINCE 2014 SO WOULD YOU ROLL BACK THE CLOCK AND IF SO WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THOSE EXISTING MARRIAGES THAT HAVE BEEN LAWFULLY RECOGNIZED IN THE STATE OF IDAHO SINCE 2014?
>> YOU JUST MADE MY POINT.
THE STATE OF IDAHO HAS ADDRESSED THIS ISSUE.
IT IS THE STATE'S RIGHT TO DETERMINE THIS ISSUE.
I SUPPORT THE STATE'S OUTCOME, THE STATE'S RIGHT.
MY POINT ISN'T WHAT THE OUTCOME SHOULD BE IT'S WHO IS IN CHARGE.
IF WE HAD A LAW THAT SID THAT EVERY STATE HAS TO AGREE WITH HAS TO FOLLOW WHAT ANY STATE SETS UP, THEN YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A PUSH AROUND THIS COUNTRY FOR RULES.
THINK OF WHAT CALIFORNIA MAY DO OR WHAT NEW YORK MAY DO OR SOME OTHER STATE MAY SAY THEN IDAHO HAS TO FOLLOW THAT?
NO.
I SUPPORT IDAHO'S APPROACH, WHICH YOU HAVE POINTED OUT DOES RECOGNIZE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.
AND I'M FULLY WILLING IN FACT AGGRESSIVELY WILLING TO PROTECT IDAHO'S RIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
>> BUT IDAHO ONLY LEGALIZED SAME-SEX MARRIAGE BECAUSE OF A FEDERAL COURT DECISION.
SO IF THIS WERE ONLY UP TO THE STATES WOULD YOU SUPPORT THEN TELLING ALL THE CURRENTLY MARRIED COUPLES, SAME SEX COUPLES IN IDAHO YOU'RE NO LONGER MARRIED?
>> NO.
I WOULD SUPPORT THE STATE EVER IDAHO MAKING THE DECISION ABOUT WHAT IT WILL RECOGNIZE IN THIS AREA.
>> MR. ROTH, WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON THIS?
>> WELL, MY POSITION I AM A MEMBER OF THE LGBTQ COMMUNITY AND SO MY POSITION ON THIS IS PROBABLY PRETTY OBVIOUS.
I ONCE AGAIN EARLIER IN THE DEBATE TALKED ABOUT HOW WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THOSE FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS WHAT MAKE US UP AS INDIVIDUALS, AS AMERICANS.
TO STATE.
IF I'M IN A STATE THAT ALLOWS SAME-SEX MARRIAGE SUCH AS MASSACHUSETTS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND I DECIDE TO TAKE MY FAMILY TO THE WONDERFUL IDAHO WILDERNESS AND SOMETHING HAPPENS TO ME WHILE I'M HERE, I SHOULD STILL BE MARRIED IN IDAHO EVEN IF THERE'S A CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT AGAINST IT BECAUSE IT SHOULDN'T CHANGE NO MATTER WHERE WE ARE.
IF I'M MARRIED IN ONE STATE I'M MARRIED IN ANY OTHER STATE.
IF YOU HAD A STATE THAT WENT THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION, SAID, IF NOT EVERYONE IS NOT GOING TO RECOGNIZE SAME-SEX MARRIAGE WE'RE NOT GOING TO RECOGNIZE ANY MARRIAGE AND YOU CROSS INTO ANOTHER STATE WITH YOUR SPOUSE, YOU HAVE A MEDICAL EMERGENCY YOU DON'T HAVE THOSE RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS.
IT'S PHIING TO MANY OF US IN THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S ANOTHER INSTANCE WHERE WE'RE TARGET AGO SPECIFIC GROUP OF PEOPLE.
YOU'RE SEEING THIS NOT ONLY WITH THE MARRIAGE ISSUE, WITH THE TRANS ISSUE, WITH WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN OHIO WHERE A MEAN SPIRITED GROUP OF STUDENTS NOMINATED A SOPHOMORE TO BE HOMECOMING PRINCESS WHO WAS TRANS AS A MEAN PRACTICAL JOKE THEN NONE OF THE BOYS IN THE CLASS WOULD STAND UP AND TAKE THEIR ROLE AS HOMECOMING PRINCE.
IT'S MEAN SPIRITED AND IT COMES RIGHT FROM THE TOP.
WE NEED TO STOP IT.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, WHAT IS YOUR POSITION ON SAME-SEX MARRIAGE AND WHETHER OR NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SHOULD CODIFY IT?
>> THANK USE VERY MUCH.
MY PERSONAL POSITION ON GAY COUPLES IS I'M OKAY WITH THE GAY.
I WORKED AROUND GAY COWORKERS.
I KNOW PERSONAL FRIENDS THAT ARE GAY.
I DON'T THINK THAT THEY SHOULD EVER BE DISCRIMINATED WHEN IT COMES TO EMPLOYMENT OR MARRIAGE OR THEIR WORK LIFE, THEIR FAMILY A LIFE.
THEY ARE GOOD PEOPLE, NO REASON THEY SHOULD BE TREATED ANY DIFFERENT.
HOWEVER, I WILL SAY THIS.
WHILE I THINK GAY PEOPLE ARE DIFFERENT I DON'T THINK THEY ARE SPECIAL.
I DON'T THINK THEY DESERVE THEIR OWN SPECIAL MONTH.
I DON'T THINK THEY NEED A SPECIAL FLAG.
I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO REDUCE DISCRIMINATION FASHION IN AMERICA WE NEED TO TREAT EVERYBODY THE SAME INCLUDING THE GAY COMMUNITY.
I DON'T LIKE IT WHEN THE GAY AGENDA IS PUSHED ON CHILDREN.
YOU SEE THAT GOING ON IN OUR SCHOOL SYSTEMS DESPITE CLAIMS TO THE CONTRARY.
I DO AGREE WITH SENATOR CRAPO FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT, THE ISSUE OF GAY MARRIAGE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DECIDED BY THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT.
IT SHOULD BE LEFT UP TO THE STATES.
I'LL BE CONSISTENT ON THAT.
23 IT'S NOT IN THE CONSTITUTION IT GOES BACK TO THE STATES.
>> THEN WOULD YOU SUPPORT HERE IN IDAHO TURNING BACK THE CLOCK AND UNMARRYING THOSE COUPLES LEGALLY MERDE IN IDAHO UNDER THE EXISTING LAW AND U.S. SUPREME COURT DECISION SINCE 2014?
>> NO, THAT WOULD BE A BAD DECISION.
IF THE STATE MADE THAT DECISION I WOULD PUSH FOR THEM TO GRANDFATHER EXISTING MARRIAGES IN SAME SEX COUPLES.
I'M A CHRISTIAN BUT I'M NOT HERE TO JUDGE PEOPLE.
IF TWO CONSENTING ADULTS WANT TO ENGAGE IN A LOVING RELATIONSHIP AND A MARRIAGE WITH THAT WHO ARE WE TO JUDGE?
THAT'S RIDICULOUS AND OLD FASHIONED.
>> MR. ROTH, I WANT TO GIVE YOU 30 SECONDS.
>> I JUST WANT TO RESPOND SPECIFICALLY TO THE ISSUES ABOUT CHILDREN.
I THINK THAT ONE PERSPECTIVE I CAN BRING THAT MANY IN THIS ROOM CAN'T IS GROWING UP AS A MEMBER OF THE LGBTQ POPULATION.
PEOPLE SEEM TO THINK WHEN YOU'RE 18 OR 20 YOU DECIDE URUGUAY.
YOU HAVE THOSE FEELINGS WHEN YOU'RE A SMALL CHILD AND OUR SOCIETY IS NOT CURRENTLY SET UP TO AFFIRM THAT.
WE HAVE STRUGGLES AND GROWING PAINS AS WE TRY TO FIGURE OUT THE BEST WAY TO AFFIRM THAT BUT SINGLING COUNTY GROUPS AND PREVENTING THEM FROM PARTS PAIGHT IN SPORTS, THERE ARE LIKELY MORE LAWS PREVENTING TRANS PEOPLE FROM PARTICIPATING IN SPORTS THAN THERE ARE PEOPLE TRYING TO PARTICIPATE IN SPORTS.
>> I'M GOING TO ASK SENATOR CRAPO.
THIS IS ABOUT GUNS.
19 CHILDREN AND TWO ADULTS DIED IN UVALDE, TEXAS, THIS YEAR WHEN AN 18-YEAR-OLD MAN CAME INTO AN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH A GUN THAT HE HAD LEGALLY PURCHASED.
THE AFTERMATH OF THAT TRAGEDY SOME OF THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF THE VICTIMS CALLED FOR RAISING THE PURCHASE AGE FROM 18 TO 21.
WHAT SHOULD OUR COUNTRY DO TO PREVENT SCHOOL SHOOTINGS AND OTHER MASS SHOOTINGS THAT REPEAT DPLI HAPPEN IN OUR COUNTRY BUT NOT IN OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES.
>> I DO NOT AGREE THAT EXPANDED AND ENHANCED GUN CONTROL IS A SOLUTION.
WE HAVE TRIED THAT IN THE PAST IN THE UNITED STATES AND IT HASN'T HAD ANY APPRECIABLE EFFECT ON GUN VIOLENCE.
THE FACT IS THAT THERE'S A SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT UNDER THE CONSTITUTION TO BEAR ARMS.
NOW, THAT BEING SAID, THERE ARE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AND WHICH I SUPPORT AND IN FACT WHICH I AM CHAMPIONING IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
FIRST, WE CAN HARDEN OUR SCHOOLS.
THERE ARE A LOT OF TECHNOLOGIES AND A LOT OF ACTIONS THAT CAN BE TAKEN TO PROTECT OUR SCHOOL SO THAT THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED IN UVALDE WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED IF WE HAD HAD THE RIGHT KIND OF PROTECTION IN PLACE AT OUR SCHOOL, AT THAT SCHOOL.
SECONDLY WE CAN RECOGNIZE THE CAUSE, THERE ARE MULTIPLE CAUSES OF THIS VIOLENCE, BUT ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT ONES THAT EVERYONE ACKNOWLEDGES IS MENTAL ILLNESS.
I'M ENGAGED WITH SENATOR RON WYDEN, CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE WHERE I RANK, TO DEVELOP A MENTAL ILLNESS PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT FOCUSES BEYOND GUNS AND BEYOND VIOLENCE TO MANY OTHER ASPECTS OF MENTAL ILLNESS BUT DOES FOCUS ON GUNS AND VIOLENCE.
IF WE CAN FOCUS ON THE CAUSE AND FIND THE ABILITY TO IDENTIFY THOSE WHO ARE POTENTIAL RISKS AND HELP THEM GET ASSISTANCE WE CAN MAKE MUCH MORE PROGRESS IN DEALING WITH THE VIOLENCE IN OUR SOCIETY PARTICULARLY THIS KIND OF GUN VIOLENCE THAT WE SEE IN SCHOOLS.
THEN WE CAN BY JUST PASSING SOMETHING WHICH I I THINK IS A FEEL GOOD PIECE OF LEGISLATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE ANTI-GUN.
>> I WANT TO DIRECT THE QUESTION TO MR. ROTH.
DO YOU AGREE WITH SENATOR CRAPO'S RESPONSE?
WHAT DO YOU THINK WE NEED TO DO IN AMERICA TO REDUCE AND PREVENT THE TYPES OF SCHOOL SHOOTINGS THAT ROUTINELY OCCUR HERE BUT NOT IN OTHER COUNTRIES AT THE SAME RATE.
>> I WOULD AGREE THAT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE INVESTMENT IN MENTAL HEALTH.
ACROSS OUR SPECTRUM THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT.
HOWEVER, THE SHOOTING IN UVALDE IF THAT PERSON HAD TO WAIT, THEY WENT INTO A GUN STORE THE DAY AFTER THEIR 18th BIRTHDAY AND BOUGHT AN AR15 AND 500 ROUNDS OF AMMUNITION.
WE SAW SURVEILLANCE VIDEO OF POLICE COWERING OUTSIDE THE CLASSROOM WHILE CHILDREN WERE SCREAMING.
IF THAT PERSON WOULD HAVE HAD TO WAIT UNTIL 21 THERE'S A CHANCE THAT THAT WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED BECAUSE HE PURCHASED HIS GUN THROUGH LEGAL MEANS.
HE DIDN'T DO IT BEFORE HIS 18th BIRTHDAY, HE DID IT ON HIS 18th BIRTHDAY WHEN HE COULD PURCHASE IT LEGALLY.
WE COULD HAVE SEEN A DIFFERENT OUTCOME.
WE HAD AN ASSAULT WEAPONS TBHAN TARGETED MANY SPECIFIC WEAPONS DURING THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION.
WE DID SEE A DECREASE IN DEATH AND GUN VIOLENCE RELATED TO THOSE ASSAULT WEAPONS.
I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT AGAIN.
TO NOT DO ANYTHING AND SAY IF WE MAKE OUR SCHOOLS LOOK MORE LIAR FORTRESSES THEN WE CAN SOLVE THE PROBLEM.
THAT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM BECAUSE WE HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM IN OUR COUNTRY WITH GUN VIOLENCE AND ACCESS TO GUNS AND WE NEED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES.
OTHERWISE WE WILL SEE IT SWITCH FROM GOALS TO GROCERY STORES, CHURCHES, FUNERALS, PLACES OF WORSHIP, MOVIE THEATERS, COUNTRY WESTERN CONCERTS, YOU NAME T. WE NEED TO TAKE ACTION QUICKLY.
>> I WANT TO BRING MR. CLEVELAND IN, GET YOUR REACTION TO THE CALLS FROM SOME FAMILY MEMBERS OF VICTIMS TO RAISE THE AGE TO PURCHASE AN AR15 AND I ALSO WANTED TO GET YOUR THOUGHTS ON THE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS EPIDEMIC IN OUR COUNTRY.
>> I'M A BIG FAN OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT.
IT'S A VERY IMPORTANT PART OF OUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS GIVEN US TO BY GOD, NOT BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR THE STATE.
IT'S A RIGHT TO SELF-PROTECT ONESELF AND THAT SHOULD NEVER CHANGE.
YOU CAN'T LEGISLATE AWAY EVIL FROM SOCIETY.
MANY OF THESE YOUNG PEOPLE THAT ARE OUT SHOOTING UP SCHOOLS AND OTHER PLACES HAVE A PATTERN OF BEING ON SPECIAL MEDICINES, IT'S DEFINITELY A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE.
NO SANE PERSON WOULD SHOOT UP A SCHOOL FULL OF CHILDREN.
THAT'S PART OF THE SOLUTION.
I THINK THE SECOND PART OF THE SOLUTION IS LET'S HARDEN THE SCHOOLS.
IF LIFE IS SO VALUABLE THAT YOU GOT TO GO THROUGH SEVEN LAYERS OF SECURITY TO GET INTO AN AIRPORT TO GO ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHY DON'T YOU HAVE SEVERAL LEVELS OF SECURITY TO PROTECT THE MOST VALUABLE RESOURCE, WHICH IS OUR CHILDREN.
THAT'S A VERY DOABLE SOLUTION.
IF IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF MONEY TO DO IT LET'S SPEND THE MONEY THERE.
tenemos que TAKING AWAY THE RIGHTS OF LAW ABIDING CITIZENS AND PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE THESE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND MAKE THEIR LIVES HARDER JUST BECAUSE OF SOME OF WHAT'S HAPPENED IN UVALDE IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF MANY.
>> I WANTED TO FOLLOW UP QUICKLY Y.
DO WE SEE THIS SO OFTEN IN AMERICA COMPARED TO OTHER COUNTRIES?
>> I'LL ASK YOU TO KEEP THAT SHORT.
>> THAT'S EASY.
MOST COUNTRIES DON'T HAVE THE GUNS THAT WE DO IN AMERICA.
IT'S A NUMBERS ISSUE.
>> NEXT QUESTION COMES FROM MARGARET CARAMEL.
WE HAVE TIME FOR ONE, MAYBE TWO MORE QUESTIONS SO KEEP THAT IN MIND.
>> MR. CLEVELAND, THE IDAHO HOUSING AND FINANCE ASSOCIATION STATE OF HOMELESSNESS REPORT FOUND OVER 8,000 IDAHOANS SOUGHT HELP TO ADDRESS HOMELESSNESS LAST YEAR.
WHAT SHOULD THE GOVERNMENT DO IF ANYTHING TO ADDRESS THE NEED ?M.
>> THE ISSUE OF HOMELESSNESS IS A COMPLEX ISSUE.
IT SAYS IN THE BIBLE THE POOR WILL ALWAYS BE AMONGST US NO MATTER WHAT WE DO.
THERE ARE SEVERAL SOCIAL SAFETY NETS FOR PEOPLE BUT I DON'T THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS THE ANSWER TO EVERYTHING.
I THINK THE ANSWER LIES IN SOME SORT OF BALANCE BETWEEN PLACES LIKE THE BOISE RESCUE MISSION, WHICH IS BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE IN THE VALLEY, AND YOU HAVE MEDICARE, YOU HAVE MEDICAID.
BUT CERTAINLY THERE'S A BIG DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT GOES ON HERE IN BOISE IN THE TREASURE VALLEY AREA.
WE DO A VERY GOOD JOB HERE IN THE VALLEY COMPARED TO MANY OTHER STATES.
MY WIFE AND I ARE ORIGINALLY FROM NEW MEXICO, AND WE VISIT THRD ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
THE CITY OF ALLERGY KIRK, SADLY, IS LIKE A THIRD WORLD COUNTRY.
LOOKS LIKE AN EPISODE OF WALKING DEAD.
PART OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH NOT SECURING THE BORDER.
THERE'S FENTANYL.
THEY LEGALIZED MARIJUANA THERE.
I WOULD HATE TO SEE OUR AREA GO DOWN THAT BATH.
>> I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT YOUR MENTION OF BOISE RESCUE MISSION.
YOU SAID THEY ARE BUILDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT'S A HOMELESS SHELTER MEANT TO BE TEMPORARY.
PEOPLE CANNOT STAY THERE LONG TERM UNLESS THEY ADOPT THE CHRISTIAN FAITH.
I WOULD SAY THAT DOESN'T QUALIFY AS HOUSING.
>> I DON'T THINK IT'S THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S JOB TO BUILD HOUSES FOR PEOPLE.
>> THANK YOU.
SENATOR CRAPO, SAME QUESTION WHAT.
DO YOU THINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT'S ROLE IS IN ADDRESSING THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS?
>> FIRST WE DO HAVE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING CRISIS, IT IS SIGNIFICANT, A TREMENDOUS PROBLEM IN AMERICA.
I HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FIGHT FOR YEARS IN CONGRESS.
I HAVE BEEN AN ADVOCATE FOR THE LOW-INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDIT AND WE NEED TO EXPAND AND STRENGTHIN THAT SOOCT IT CAN HELP FURTHER FAMILIAR TATE INCENTIVIZING CAPITAL TO COME INTO THE CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
I'M WORKING ON AN ENDEAVOR WITH MY COLLEAGUES ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE TO DO JUST THAT.
WE NEED MORE CAPITAL COMMITTED IN THE UNITED STATES TO CONSTRUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING HAS GOT A WONDERFUL RECORD, TAX CREDIT HAS A WONDERFUL RECORD OF DOING.
I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE MOST CRITICAL THINGS THAT WE CAN DO AT THIS POINT.
>> THANK YOU.
MR. ROTH, SAME QUESTION.
THOUGHTS ON ADDRESSING AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
>> SO I SPEND A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH THIS ISSUE.
I SIT ON THE BOARD FOR HABITAT FOR HUMANITY AND WHAT YOU'LL DO TO REALLY TAKERU KOBAYASHI WILL THIS PROBLEM IS MORE PARTNERSHIPS AS WE COME TOGETHER TO BUILD PROJECTS AND LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE THA TRADITIONAL .
SINGLE FAMILY HOMES ARE NOT GOING TO COME DOWN IN PRICE ENOUGH TO BECOME AFFORDABLE WITH THE WAGES WE HAVE.
INVEST IN MORE HOUSING STOCK AND LOOKING AT WAYS TO RAISE THOSE WAGES BY INCENTIVIZING MORE COMPANIES TO COME INTO OUR AREAS.
I LOOK AT ORGANIZATIONS WHERE WE USE TAX CREDITS TOKING CENTIVIZE BUSINESSES THAT WILL PAY A WAGE NOT SUFFICIENT TO AFFORD EVEN MODEST HOUSING.
THAT TOE ME IS COMPLICATING AND COMPOUNDING THE PROBLEM.
WE NEED TO DRIVE THOSE COMPANIES INTO OUR AREAS THAT ARE GOING TO THEN ATTRACT WORKERS WHO NEED HOUSING THAT DON'T GET PAID ENOUGH TO HAVE THAT HOUSING.
IT SEEMS TO ME THAT'S A HUGE MISMATCH.
WE NEED -- A GOOD EXAMPLE I BOUGHT MY FIRST HOUSE WITH THE HOMEBUYERS CREDIT IN 2009.
THAT MADE A HUGE DIFFERENCE FOR MYSELF AND OVER 1 MILLION OTHER AMERICANS WHO PURCHASED THEIR FIRST HOMES.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT WAYS WE CAN INCENTIVIZE AND THAT WE CAN ACHIEVE KNOWS GOALS.
>> ONE MR.
QUESTION.
YOU'LL HAVE 30 SECONDS TO ANSWER.
MR. CLEVELAND, THE FILIBUSTER HAS BECOME A WAY FOR THE SENATE TO DELAY OR BLOCK LEGISLATION FROM MOVING FORWARD.
SHOULD THAT STILL BE AN OPTION FOR SENATORS TO USE?
>> YES.
IT'S BEEN A PART OF OUR COUNTRY SINCE ITS FOUNDING, THAT AND THE IDEA OF CLOTURE GO HAND IN HAND.
I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE WILL IMNATURED IN ANY WAY.
>> ABSOLUTELY IT SHOULD.
THIS CONGRESS SENATOR SCHUMER TRIED TO GET RID OF IT UNFORTUNATELY FAILED.
HAD HE NOT FAILED THE BILLS THEY WERE GOING TO DRIVE THROUGH WERE LINED UP.
ONE, A FEDERAL TAKEOVER OF OUR ELECTIONS.
TWO, STATEHOOD FOR THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA.
THREE, FIVE NEW SUPREME COURT JUSTICES FOR THIS PRESIDENT TO APPOINT.
FOUR, MORE GUN CONTROL.
THE LIST GOES ON.
WE MUST KEEP THE FILIBUSTER IN PLACE.
>> MR. ROTH OO.
>> I WOULD SUPPORT REMOVING THE FILIBUSTER.
IT'S BEEN A STUMBLING BLOCK FOR ANY TYPE OF PROGRESS FOR YEARS.
IF IT WAS IN THE WAY OF MITCH McCONNELL HE WOULD HAVE NO HESITATION TO GET IT OUT OF HIS WAY TO PUSH THROUGH HIS AGENDA.
I FEEL THAT THE FILIBUSTER ALLOWED BECAUSE OF THE EXEMPTION ON JUDICIAL -- MEANS THE REPUBLICANS ARE JUST FINE WITH KEEPING IT IN PLACE BECAUSE THEY CAN DO THE ONLY TWO THINGS THEY CARE ABOUT DOING.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
TIME FOR 60 SECOND CLOSING STATEMENTS.
MR. CLEVELAND, WE START WITH YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
WE HAVE HEARD TONIGHT A LOT OF COULD HAVE WOULD HAVE COULD HAVE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK DIRECTLY TO THE ADDITION AL REPUBLICAN VOTERS IN IDAHO.
YOU MAY NOT BE INTIECIAL COMFORTABLE WORKING FOR A CANDIDATE LIKE ME WITHOUT AN R BESIDE THEIR NAME BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IF WE DON'T WE'LL KEEP GETTING THE SAME EXACT RESULTS FROM WASHINGTON D.C. THAT WE HAVE BEEN GETTING.
I IT'S DEBT AND DYSFUNCTION.
AMERICA DESERVES BETTER THAN.
THAT PERSONALLY I THINK IT'S HHIGHTIME WE PUT OUR COUNTRY BEE OUR PARTY F. YOU AGREE PLEASE VOTE FOR ME.
I'M SCOTT CLEVELAND, YOUR INDEPENDENT CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATE FOR UNITED STATES SENATE.
THANK YOU, GOOD NIGHT, GOD BLESS AMERICA.
>> SENATOR CRAPO.
>> THANK YOU.
AT THE BEGIN OF THIS DEBATE I LAID OUT MY VISION OF WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO RESTORE AMERICA'S STREFNLT.
I SAID I WOULD ADVOCATE BASED ON THE VALUES AND PRINCIPLES HELD BY IDAHOANS.
MY RECORD IS PROVEN.
THE AMERICAN CONSERVATIVE UNION, 91% LIFETIME RECORD.
AWARD FOR CONSERVATIVE EXCELLENCE.
FREEDOM WORKS, 100%.
CITIZENS AGAINST GOVERNMENT WASTE, TAXPAYER HERO 90% RATING.
NATIONAL FEDERATION OF INDEPENDENT BUSINESSES, 91%.
FAMILY RESEARCH COUNCIL 96% THROUGH BLUE AWARD.
NRA, A-PLUS RATING.
NATIONAL SHOOTING SPORTS FOUNDATION A-PLUS.
NATIONAL RIGHT TO LIFE 100%.
THESE RATINGS MATTER BECAUSE THESE ORGANIZATIONS REPRESENT THE VALUES AND PRINCIPLES HELD BY IDAHOANS WHICH WE KNOW SHOULD BE USED TO GOVERN.
MY RECORD IS SOLID.
I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO CONTINUE TO AGGRESSIVELY AND EFFECTIVELY ADVOCATE FOR THEM IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.
THANK YOU.
I ASK FOR YOUR VOTE.
>> THANK YOU.
MR. ROTH.
>> ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU TO IDAHO PUBLIC TELEVISION AND THE DEBATE MODERATOR AND THE PANELISTS FOR BEING WITH US.
THIS ELECTION WE'RE SEEING A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE.
WE HAVE SEEN PEOPLE WHO ARE SICK AND TIRED OF LOOKING AT THEIR FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS BEING STRIPPED AWAY OR THE POSSIBILITY THEREOF.
WE'RE SEEING RECORD NUMBERS OF WOMEN AND YOUNG EOPLE IN THIS STATE REGISTERING TO VOTE.
THEY ARE STANDING UP SAYING THE VALUES THAT MY OPPONENT JUST DESCRIBED ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE VALUES THAT REPRESENT THEM AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I THINK THAT AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO WHAT WE CAN DO MOVING IN OUR COUNTRY, WE NEED TO LOOK AT INVESTING IN OUR OWN COUNTRY, IN OUR OWN SPACE AND BRINGING THAT INVESTMENT BACK IN.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE'RE FOCUSED ON DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO TO BUILD THOSE INVESTMENTS HERE IN THE STATE OF IDAHO, WHICH IS WHAT I WILL DO.
I HAVE BEEN A WORKING PERSON IN THE STATE OF IDAHO.
I HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE AFL-CIO, THE SUPPORT OF THE IDAHO ABORTION RIGHTS, THE SUPPORT TO BRING THIS FORWARD AND I WILL STAND WITH IDAHO.
THANK YOU SO MUCH.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH TO CANDIDATES, SCOTT CLEVELAND, SENATOR CRAPO AND DAVID ROTH FOR JOINING US.
THANK YOU TO THE REPORTERS FOR THE GREAT QUESTIONS AND OUR VIEWERS AT HOME FOR WATCHING.
THE GENERAL ELECTION IS NOVEMBER 8th.
IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, YOU CAN REGISTER TO VOTE AT THE POLLS.
FOR MORE INFORMATION, GO TO VOTE IDAHO.GOV.
REMEMBER WE HAVE MORE DEBATES COMING UP THIS MONTH ON OCTOBER 24th, TUNE IN FOR THE SUPERINTENDENT OF PUBLIC INSTRUCTION DEBATE AND OCTOBER 28th LIEUTENANT GOVERNOR.
REMEMBER, IF YOU MISSED ANY OF OUR DEBATES YOU CAN WATCH THEM AGAIN AT IDAHO PVT.ORG.
THANKS AGAIN AND WE'LL SEE YOU AT THE POLLS.
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