(instrumental guitar) - We are Vice Versa.

And this is "Sound On Tap."

(guitar instrumental) ♪ Running and searching, looking for meaning ♪ ♪ Breaking the silence so I can start screaming ♪ ♪ Meeting an urge, death only speaks ♪ ♪ Learn from the past, from human instincts ♪ ♪ From human (instrumental) ♪ Come on, let's stay alive ♪ We've got another day to try and survive ♪ ♪ Live or die with you my friend ♪ ♪ We've gotta stick it out to the end ♪ ♪ Well at least I tried to change ♪ ♪ The sacrifice ♪ 'Til the inner self is gone ♪ 'Til the inner self is gone ♪ 'Til the inner self is gone ♪ Before I disappear, I wanted you to know ♪ ♪ That you were always near in my heart ♪ ♪ Right from the start ♪ And no matter what I never gave up ♪ ♪ But I always wanted to give you everything ♪ ♪ 'Til the inner self is gone ♪ 'Til the inner self is gone ♪ 'Til the inner self is gone ♪ I'll see you on the other side ♪ ♪ And I'll greet you with a smile ♪ ♪ Not just for a while but for the rest of ♪ ♪ My life until we die ♪ You're the one I can't deny, yeah you my friend ♪ ♪ We gotta stick it out 'til the end ♪ ♪ I want inner peace, just wanna be with you ♪ ♪ And never fade away - I was approached at a Guitar Center Isaac was working there at the time, our drummer, and he just approached me after I purchased a guitar.

And he was like, hey, you want to be in a band?

I was like, who's in it, tell me the guys.

And I was like, yeah count me in.

- I think that was the story for everyone.

I think it's hard to start a new project.

And of course I've known most of these guys most of my life and just like Justin said, just hit someone up and hey, you wanna come jam out, try something new?

And everyone was down for it.

- I think I was the last one to join for sure.

Isaac called me up and said, hey man, come try out.

And the rest is history.

Came in and they started playing some songs that they've been working on.

And then I started just freestyling over it.

They liked what they heard and they let me stay, so it was pretty cool.

We haven't really played many live shows.

We're not a cover band, so it's not like we make money doing this.

I mean, we love to play live but it hasn't really affected us really.

I mean, we miss playing live.

We wanna play live.

But when we get into the, to the jam, the jam space and write, that's where, that's where we really enjoy it.

You know, just writing together, recording our music getting it out there.

And I don't think it's affected us in a way like, man, I wish we could play live, but it's definitely something that we wanna do in the foreseeable future.

- We were in the middle of recording an album and it, of course, postponed all of that.

We waited maybe four or five months later for everything to settle, I felt like most of the world did too and slowly started getting back into the studio to pick back up where we left off.

And from there it became nice or easier since because it's, I mean, one of the pros of the pandemic is we're able to get together more often and then write and finish the album versus picking up a show here and there.

It allowed us to focus more, more on it.

(drums instrumental) (guitar instrumental) (bass instrumental) ♪ Too many roads, and principles ♪ ♪ I don't know if I can follow them ♪ ♪ Breaking the path and aftermath ♪ ♪ Lines we cross leave us so shattered there ♪ ♪ What is the point?

What is the right?

♪ ♪ What are we really after in this life?

♪ ♪ You're getting bored, I'm hearing right ♪ ♪ Does it take a mass affair to keep you satis ♪ ♪ Don't look the other way, Don't look the other way ♪ ♪ As our world starts to divide ♪ ♪ Ready to serve, protect the worth ♪ ♪ The only reason you try to resist ♪ ♪ Paving the way but you delay ♪ The choice and the faith you defend ♪ ♪ You're getting old and so am I ♪ ♪ Have you felt the full effects from constant lies ♪ ♪ Can you be sure?

We can't all be right?

♪ ♪ Take a mass affair to keep you satis ♪ ♪ Can you ♪ Just look the other way ♪ Don't look the other way ♪ Can you ♪ Don't look the other way ♪ Just look the other way ♪ As our world starts to divide ♪ ♪ As our world starts to divide ♪ ♪ Settle the score, you can't ignore ♪ ♪ The reasons why you're in desguise ♪ ♪ Settle the score, you can't ignore ♪ ♪ The reasons why you're in disguise ♪ ♪ Settle the score, you can't ignore ♪ ♪ The reasons why you're in disguise ♪ ♪ Can you ♪ Can you ♪ Can you, don't look the other way ♪ ♪ Don't look the other way ♪ As our world starts to divide ♪ ♪ As our world starts to divide ♪ ♪ Can you ♪ Can you ♪ Can you just look the other way ♪ ♪ Just look the other way - This next song is called Loss for Words.

(band instrumentals) ♪ There's something that I've been meaning to say ♪ ♪ The reason that I've been staying away ♪ ♪ Feeling so lost nothing comes to mind ♪ ♪ But staying away seems to help me fine ♪ ♪ I'm at a loss for words ♪ It's scary how this works ♪ Information into the storm, process to be the norm ♪ ♪ Is it in my DNA?

Compound ability ♪ ♪ This social awkwardness prescribes us to conflict ♪ ♪ Everything that I try to say or do ♪ ♪ Information is clear, I'm nothing to you ♪ ♪ A little control is a state of mind ♪ ♪ I summon the strength to leave you behind ♪ ♪ Despite the circumstance I never had a chance ♪ ♪ Information into the storm, process to be the norm ♪ ♪ Is it in my DNA?

Compound ability ♪ ♪ As mentioned earlier, it's scary how this works ♪ ♪ Do these feelings often sadden you?

♪ ♪ Dealing with the negative emotions ♪ ♪ I can't ignore, no not no more ♪ ♪ I tried accepting help from all my friends ♪ ♪ I tried pretending that this would end ♪ ♪ This is not the life you planned ♪ ♪ Give me all of your demands ♪ Game control, reclaim your soul ♪ ♪ And work within, don't let them win ♪ ♪ Try to stay strong, keep holding on ♪ ♪ Prove to be just like a tree ♪ Yeah either course have no remorse ♪ ♪ You'll find the real life - If we didn't have Isaac, we wouldn't have a lot of the opportunities that we have now.

- We'd have like our ideas on your phone, you know where you go to a jam session and you're like, psh hit record on the phone and then put it in like a hoodie or something so that way it filters noise.

And you know, there's the idea where with, you know, Isaac, he invested so much in turning his garage into a studio and he has everything miked up and spoils us because we get to use in-ear systems.

And we don't have to crank it and have earphones, everything is, feels like it's on a professional level and it's really unique to our situation and that we get to keep our hearing.

- We're very fortunate with it.

- Definitely a big impact from him on that, because I think if you take it back to high school, you just go on all these shows and you're right in front of the speaker, or at least I know I was.

And then when I first had started jamming with him 10 years ago or further, in Still Not Famous I used to be just right next to his, you know, his drums and his cymbals and he's just bashing it.

And I realized I was losing hearing in the right side of my ear.

So then he would make recommendations, use these ear-o's or whatever they're called.

I don't know what they're, what they're called.

But after time I got my hearing back, I was like what the hell?

I never wanna go back to doing that again.

Especially with like, you know, his in-ear rig 'cause we can just control our levels and don't have to get crazy loud just to have a jam session or a writing session.

- I went a little far, further than most people I think.

I soundproof, I soundproofed my garage wall to wall, the whole nine to make sure it's really quiet and you can, you can be outside and almost not hear anything, it's very, to be very faint if you're walking by ♪ Open your eyes, open your eyes ♪ ♪ Cannot deny, open your eyes ♪ Let it collide, let it collide ♪ ♪ It's beyond your hours ♪ In the demise, open your eyes ♪ ♪ Cannot deny, open your eyes ♪ Let it collide, let it collide ♪ ♪ It's beyond your hours ♪ You told me your visions ♪ You heard them faint like screams ♪ ♪ Give me your legacy, your generation killing spree ♪ ♪ Survival, yeah no more breeding society ♪ ♪ As far as the eyes can ♪ No it's not my destiny ♪ Leave it to rest, this is your test ♪ ♪ Screams are frightening, there's nothing left for ♪ ♪ Don't look into their eyes ♪ They'll try to make you mad ♪ Once they decide to win, they'll mark the hour ♪ (instrumental) ♪ This empty existence, so we depended on you ♪ ♪ Come too far to realize that they've been watching you ♪ ♪ Leave it to rest, this is your debt ♪ ♪ Screams are frightening there's nothing left for ♪ ♪ Don't look into their eyes ♪ They'll try to make you mine ♪ Once they decide to win, they'll mark the hour ♪ ♪ Don't look into their eyes ♪ They'll try to make you mine ♪ Once they decide to win they held the power ♪ ♪ It's all in your mind, it's all your mind ♪ ♪ Open your eyes, open your eyes ♪ ♪ It's all in your mind, it's all in your mind ♪ ♪ Open your eyes, open your eyes ♪ ♪ It's all in your mind, it's all in your mind ♪ ♪ Open your eyes, open your eyes ♪ ♪ In the demise, keep your eyes closed ♪ ♪ They'll never let you go ♪ Shadows screaming to take away your soul ♪ ♪ Keep your eyes closed, they'll never let you go ♪ ♪ Shadows creeping to take away your soul ♪ ♪ Shout today ♪ Don't escape ♪ Another day on the bus, waking up before sunrise ♪ ♪ I remember the days when we used to stay up all night ♪ ♪ Nowadays it's the same, day to day in a routine ♪ ♪ Drinking coffee, and talking to Bill ♪ ♪ About anything other than what we crave ♪ ♪ You climb corporate ladders ♪ And leave all your dreams asleep ♪ ♪ They dream for an hour ♪ To find out you're not awake ♪ A message from the guys, buddy are you all right ♪ ♪ Let's get together and jam are you free can you get away ♪ ♪ Sorry bro, got my kids ♪ Can't get a hold of their mother ♪ ♪ Maybe you should just find someone else ♪ ♪ 'Cause I don't have the time I feel like a waste ♪ ♪ You guys are my brothers ♪ Don't think I don't miss your face ♪ ♪ Don't hate me I'm sorry ♪ Your music is what I need ♪ Conflicted, restricted, confined in my mind ♪ ♪ There's gotta be a better way to spend my time ♪ ♪ I'm done feeling empty behind corporate lines ♪ ♪ It's happening, I'm moving on to take what's mine ♪ ♪ Jump today ♪ Jump, escape, yeah ♪ Just wait for me, just wait for me, I'm coming home ♪ ♪ Believe in me, believe in me, you're not alone ♪ ♪ Just wait for me, just wait for me, I'm coming home ♪ ♪ Believe in me, believe in me, you're not alone ♪ - At first when I joined the band they had a bunch of pre-written music.

And so I just came in and I fit to their needs, to the, what the song needs.

And as we progressed as a band and matured we started building on ideas.

Mo would come in with a riff, Justin would build on that.

CJ would write to it and go along with Isaac's beat.

And then we'd kind of just jam it.

And as we kept jamming it, it would progress into something.

And then what would we say, we'd vice versa it.

We'd vice versa the song.

- There's been a few songs where literally just jamming a song and someone just starts with a riff.

Everyone builds on it and just a few of those songs, we just complete them in one go like the main idea already has verses, choruses.

We hit a bridge in there somewhere and some kind of outro and it's very impressive, jamming with these guys.

- Yeah, just being comfortable with each other knowing how one person plays or what they might do, and like, as far as the drum beat might go, I can kind of guess what Isaac might do next and kind of play along with that.

And I think over the last year and especially with the new album I think you can kind of tell it a lot more.

We've matured, we've gotten more comfortable with each other and you can kind of tell that from the music and everything.

- I find myself not getting complacent with the guys.

I'm still trying to impress them, so they'll let me stay in the band.

But I think that's a good thing.

You still wanting to create good music and you know, you're not, so it's okay.

It's, you know, no, we want it to sound good.

We want it to be cool.

And if it's cool to these guys from what I'm, from what I'm doing, then I know we've got something and I feel that they're the same way as well.

(band instrumental) ♪ We are a lost cause, just a bleeding hole, ♪ ♪ A plague of infection ♪ Forget the small talk raging toward the coast ♪ ♪ Heading for disaster ♪ Pulling strings throughout the lands ♪ ♪ Prepping wolves to raid your homes ♪ ♪ Placing bombs like bomberman ♪ Destruction just for show ♪ You feel a tiny sense of peace ♪ ♪ Just to wake up in a dream ♪ Another version of the truth ♪ Invisible to you ♪ No self awareness, you're a lonely storm ♪ ♪ Running from the sea ♪ A total breakdown of a nation torn ♪ ♪ No chasing after ♪ Feel the fast pain of the lamb ♪ ♪ You have a marker on your soul ♪ ♪ Don't disturb the bogeyman ♪ He's hiding in your home ♪ Feel the chill pass through your feet ♪ ♪ An awkward meet and greet ♪ So hard to stay awake, go back to sleep ♪ ♪ Who made you, made you ♪ Hide your voice inside the boy ♪ ♪ He tried to break you ♪ Yeah he's leaving you no choice ♪ ♪ You would always come through ♪ ♪ Even when you were a boy ♪ All the things we've been through, go back to sleep ♪ ♪ It's a shame we have to end, ♪ But it's time for me to go ♪ I really tried to be your friend ♪ ♪ Even though it was for show ♪ Never once did I deceive ♪ Did you believe in me?

♪ You choose to hear my voice but fell asleep ♪ ♪ We are a lost cause, a plague of infection ♪ ♪ Forget the small talk, heading for disaster ♪ ♪ We are a lost cause, a plague of infection ♪ ♪ Forget the small talk, chasing after ♪ (upbeat music)