
Republican strategist on Trump's grip on GOP after Iowa win
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Republican strategist discusses Trump's grip on GOP after Iowa win
The focus of the Republican presidential race moves to New Hampshire after former President Trump’s win in the Iowa caucuses. Trump dominated his rivals by 30 points with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in second place with 21 percent of the vote, followed closely by former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley. Amna Nawaz discussed the race with Republican strategist Kevin Madden.
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Republican strategist on Trump's grip on GOP after Iowa win
Clip: 1/16/2024 | 6m 31sVideo has Closed Captions
The focus of the Republican presidential race moves to New Hampshire after former President Trump’s win in the Iowa caucuses. Trump dominated his rivals by 30 points with Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis in second place with 21 percent of the vote, followed closely by former South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley. Amna Nawaz discussed the race with Republican strategist Kevin Madden.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipThe focus of the Republican Pr esident Donald Trump's record-setting# win in last night's Iowa caucuses.
AMNA NAWAZ: Trump dominated his rivals by# 30 points, winning all but one of Iowa's 99## counties.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis came# in second place with 21 percent of the vote,## followed closely by former South# Carolina Governor Nikki Haley.
I'm joined by Republican strategist Kevin Madden,## who advised Mitt Romney's 2008# and 2012 presidential campaigns.
Kevin, welcome back.
It's good to see you.
KEVIN MADDEN, Republican# Strate call came for former President Trump by# the Associated Press last night.
It came just a half-an-hour after those caucuses first# began.
A lot of Iowans hadn't even voted But the Associated Press put out an explanation# today.
Here's what they said.
They declared## Trump the winner of the caucuses based# on both an analysis of early returns,## as well as their AP VoteCast, which# is a survey of voters who planned## to caucus.
Both, they say, showed# Trump with an insurmountable lead.
Kevin, they make these calls# when the math lines up.
They## have been doing it for 170 years.
Is# the criticism warranted, KEVIN MADDEN: I mean, you're right, first of all.
Every campaign I have ever worked on,# we h and you would think that campaigns would be used# to it.
But we the fact that there is a very high sense of# distrust among a lot of Republican voter and a lot of Republican campaigns, and that's# what's driving that level of consternation.
So I think they're -- we all know that the AP# has rigorous standards and rigorous protocols## with how they announce this.
But I think the media# does have to have a little bit of self-reflection## about whether or not there is a great utility# in answering or releasing the calls so early,## when you still have people voting,# especially in an age of the smartphone,## where everybody has a supercomputer# in their pocket inside these an d they're able to see that type# of information while still voting.
AMNA NAWAZ: Let's take a look at the results# from last night and He dominated pretty much every demographic# group.
In entrance polls, however,## Iowans were asked what candidate qualities were# important to them.
For people who say that they## wanted someone who -- quote -- "fights for# people like me," 82 percent of those folks## broke for Mr. Trump, 10 percent for Mr.# DeSantis, 5 percent for Vivek Ramaswamy,## who has since ended his campaign,# and 4 percent for Nikki Haley.
Why do these numbers stand out to you?
KEVIN MADDEN: Well, first of all, I think# no w is the emerging view of the world --# emerging world vie And one of the first things that# they're looking at right now is,## can somebody win in November?
And what's really# emer idea that somebody is out there fighting for# them.
And so that is a very, very, I think,## potent argument that many Republican# primary voters are seeing right now.
And it's why this air of inevitability# is kind of coasting around Trump right## now.
I think one of the other things that's very# interesting is, if you look at general elections,## many close general elections sort# of live or die on that question:## Which candidate understands or reflects# the principles of people like me?
And so I think, for a lot of the folks that are# watching this from the White House, from the## Biden campaign, they see that number as very high# and very potent with Republica it creates a very difficult general election# matchup for them on the very similar question.
AMNA NAWAZ: Let's ask -- let# me ask you then about that,## what's become the fight for Mr. DeSantis really banked it all on# Iowa.
He slightly ahead of Haley, but he# headed right to South Carolina,## to Haley's home state.
Here's part# of what he had to say in Greenville.
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RON DESANTIS (R-FL), Presidential# Candidate: She was governor here for six## years.
Can you name major achievemen AMNA NAWAZ: So, Haley, meanwhile, released# a new ad today.
We should also say she was## saying she would not participate in# the next debate unless Mr. Trump took## part.
He is not going to take part.# ABC has now canceled that debate.
But she's really presenting herself# as the alternative to Trump and to## President Biden.
Here's a clip of her new ad.
NARRATOR: Both are consumed by chaos, negativity,## and grievances of the past.
The better# choice for a better America, Nikk AMNA NAWAZ: Kevin, those are very# different messages.
They're punching## very different directions here.
How# are thos KEVIN MADDEN: Well, one of the big# challenges DeSantis ha which is focused on Nikki Haley right# now, is a very d And he's also in a state where he's almost# skipping a number of other big primary states between them there.
Not playing on the# stage in New Hampshire while everybody## else in the attention of the political# media and both other candidates is Hampshire, that does create a void,# I think, for the DeSantis campaign.
Haley has had a sort of prepackaged# strategy coming out of Iowa, which is,## no matter what, she's going to say,# this is the two-person race between## me and Donald Trump.
And she's sticking# to that stra is where I think we're going to see these# messages go from both of these campaigns.
One other thing I'd note, too, is that# Haley also believes that the best way to## make the case to a lot of Republican voters# is to show that she'd be the best candidate,## again, to take on Joe Biden in a general# election.
So that is a key component## for her message with not only voters in New# Hampshire, but all these other primary states.
You look at May -- I'm sorry -- March# 5 and March 19, where a big chunk of## delegates is going to be at stake, that's# also her message to those voters as well.
AMNA NAWAZ: In the meantime, the GOP# field has tightened even furthe even since last night.
We mentioned# Vivek Ramaswamy has ended hi So has Asa Hutchinson.
But there's still no# consolidation around a single I want to share with you what# the editor is at "The National## Review" wrote overnight.
They said:# bu t if the Iowa results are any# indication, perhaps not for very long."
Kevin, has that window to consolidate# around someone else, has it closed?
KEVIN MADDEN: I think it's still open, but# everybody's certainly running out of time.
I mean,## we're talking about 1 percent of the delegates# that are at stake were waged last night.
But there is a very real sense of inevitability# here.
And if you look at the picture of what## base -- GOP base voters were saying in Iowa,# as a precursor for what we're going to see## from GOP base voters elsewhere, it paints a# very compelling argument that the party and## many of its base voters are coming to terms with# the idea that Trump is going to be their nominee.
Inevitability, I think, for# Nikki Haley and Ron DeSantis,## that's a very, very tough# message to fight against.
They have their work cut out for them.
AMNA NAWAZ: All right, Kevin KEVIN MADDEN: Great to be with you.
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