
Wallace and Ladmo exhibit, Tribal Water Agreement, Drug Price Cuts
Season 2024 Episode 169 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Wallace and Ladmo, Landmark water rights settlement, drug prices and Medicare costs
The Wallace and Ladmo Show turned 70 years old this past April 1st. Leaders from the Hopi Tribe,Navajo Nation, and San Juan Southern Paiute Tribe signed a landmark water rights settlement agreement. The Biden administration announced on Aug. 16, 2024, the reduced prices of the first 10 drugs it has negotiated with pharmaceutical companies over their Medicare prices.
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Wallace and Ladmo exhibit, Tribal Water Agreement, Drug Price Cuts
Season 2024 Episode 169 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
The Wallace and Ladmo Show turned 70 years old this past April 1st. Leaders from the Hopi Tribe,Navajo Nation, and San Juan Southern Paiute Tribe signed a landmark water rights settlement agreement. The Biden administration announced on Aug. 16, 2024, the reduced prices of the first 10 drugs it has negotiated with pharmaceutical companies over their Medicare prices.
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AN ICONIC TV SHOW FOR ARIZONA KIDS.
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>>> GOOD EVENING, WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.
I'M TED SIMONS.
THE SUPREME COURT GRANTED A PARTIAL STAY THAT ALLOWS ARIZONA TO FORCE PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP REQUIREMENTS.
THE HIGH COURT ALLOWED LIMITED ENFORCEMENT.
AT THE SAME TIME, THE COURT KEPT A HOLD ON SEPARATE PROVISIONS INSTEAD FEDERAL ELECTIONS OR BY MAIL USING A FEDERAL LEGISLATION FORM.
THE LAW PASSED IN 2022 UNTIL NOW AND NEVER BEEN EN FORCED.
DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE KAMALA HARRIS WILL CLOSE OUT THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION TONIGHT BY ACCEPTING THE PARTY'S NOMINATION.
HER ADDRESS WILL BE AN ADDRESS TO THE NATION AND OFFER A VISION FOR HER PRESIDENCY.
ALSO SCHEDULED TO SPEAK IS ARIZONA SENATOR KELLY AND HIS WIFE GABBY.
AND CONGRESSMAN GELLEO.
>>> ROBERT KENNEDY JR. IS EXPECTED TO ANNOUNCE THE END OF HIS CAMPAIGN TOMORROW HERE IN PHOENIX.
IN WILL COEN SIDE WITH DONALD TRUMP'S CAMPAIGN IN GLENDALE.
HE SAID HE WOULD OFFER HIM A POSITION IN HIS CABINET.
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS IN ARIZONA TODAY WITH TWO OF HIS ADVISORS AND CHAIR OF THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE.
>>> HISTORY HEADLINES THE FDA GAVE APPROVAL TO THE LATEST ROUND OF COVID-19 VACCINES.
THIS IS TO PROTECT AGAINST SERIOUS ILLNESS.
THEY WILL BE SHIPPED WITHIN DAYS.
THIS IS AFTER NEW VARIANTS DROVE UP SUMMERTIME INFECTIONS.
THE VACCINE SHOULD HELP PROTECT AGAINST THE SUBVARIANT.
>>> NEW RESEARCH SUGGESTS FOLLOWING THE MEDITERRANEAN DIET MIGHT REDUCE CATCHING THE VIRUS.
A HALF DOZEN STUDIES SHOWED THE ANTIINFLAMMATORIRY PROPERTIES MIGHT HELP REDUCE THE RISK OF GETTING COVID-19.
THEY EMPHASIZED THE STUDY WAS OBSERVATIONAL AND DOESN'T PROVE THE DIET PROTECTS AGAINST THE VIRUS.
>>> THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCED AGREEMENTS WITH MAJOR PHARMACEUTICAL COUNTIES TO CUT THE COST.
WE ARE WELCOMING THE STATE DIRECTOR OF AARP ARIZONA.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
>> I'D LIKE TO START WITH THE NEGOTIATIONS.
THIS WAS A BIG DEAL.
THEY DON'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL WHEN?
>> 2026.
>> THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
>> THEY ASKED MEDICARE MODERNIZATION ACT IN THE EARLY 2000s THEY DIDN'T ALLOW MEDICARE TO NEGOTIATE.
WE HAD TO WORK HARD TO ALLOW MEDICARE TO NEGOTIATE.
THIS WAS LEFTOVER BUSINESS.
AARP SUPPORTED THE MODERNIZATION ACT UNDER THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION.
WE CAN'T SAVE MONEY WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO ALLOW MEDICARE TO NEGOTIATE.
THIS PATH, YOU KNOW, SIGNED INTO LAW IN AUGUST OF 2022 UNDER THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT.
>> INVOLVING 10 DRUGS TO START OFF.
WHY THESE TEN?
>> THESE WERE THE TOP TEN THAT MEDICARE COVERS THAT COST THE MOST MONEY.
ALSO THE MOST WIDELY PRESCRIBED.
THERE ARE CANCER DRUGS.
DIABETES MEDICATIONS, CANCER DRUGS, AND DRUGS FOR PEOPLE WHO HAVE AN AUTO IMMUNE DISEASE.
>> I HAVE BLOOD THINNERS IN HERE AS WELL.
>> CARDIOVASCULAR.
>> THEY WERE CHOSEN BECAUSE THEY WERE MOST OFTEN USED?
>> YES AND COST THE MOST MONEY?
>> IT STARTS IN 2026, WILL IT EXPAND?
>> YES, IT WILL EXPAND OVER 5 YEARS AND EVENTUALLY UP TO 50 MEDICATIONS.
THERE IS ALWAYS A DELAY.
IT WILL TAKE A WHOLE YEAR FOR THAT TO TAKE EFFECT.
IN 2027 15 DRUGS.
2028, 20 DRUGS.
>> HOW MUCH WOULD PRICES BE KNOCKED DOWN?
>> IF IT STARTED THIS YEAR IT WOULD HAVE SAVED MEDICARE $6 BILLION AND PEOPLE WITHOUT OF POCKET SPENDING $1.6 BILLION.
THAT'S SUBSTANTIAL SAVINGS.
UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WON'T SEE THE SAVINGS UNTIL 2026.
>> IS THERE A WAY FOR THE AVERAGE ENROLLEE, WHAT WILL THAT ONE PERSON SEE IT'S NOT JUST THE OUT-OF-POCKET SPENDING.
IT BRINGS COST DOWN IN WHAT WE SPEND PART D. ALLOWING THE HOSPITALIZATION AND HAVE SAVINGS THERE AS WELL.
>> I HAVE READ THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE MEDICARE AND COINSURANCE.
>> ALL OF THIS IS COMPLICATED ERR EVERY YEAR THEY HAVE OPEN ENROLLMENT.
I TELL PEOPLE TO DO YOUR RESEARCH DURING OPEN ENROLLMENT AND MAKE SURE YOU ARE ON THE BEST PLAN POSS ONLY.
IT WILL BE DEPENDENT.
IF YOU HAVE GAP INSURANCE AND ALSO IF YOU ARE ON A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE PLAN.
MANY ARE ON A MEDICARE ADVANTAGE.
THIS IS HELPING WITH SAVING THEIR COST.
IF YOU HAVE TRADITIONAL MEDICARE AND MED GAP, THOSE PEOPLE WILL SEE THE MOST SAVINGS.
>> TALK ABOUT COMPLICATED.
>> IT'S VERY COMPLICATED AND PEOPLE NEED TO DO THEIR HOMEWORK.
THEY HAVE PEOPLE WHO ARE VOLUNTEERS TO HELP PEOPLE.
THIS COULD DRIVE UP MEDICARE DRUG PLAN PREMIUM.
YOU GET THIS AND ALSO GET THAT.
DO YOU HAVE A POINT.
IS THAT NOT NECESSARILY VALID.
>> THE THING TO BE SAID IS RESEARCH.
WE KNOW NIL COVERS RESEARCH RIGHT NOW.
IT'S IN 2025, THE OUT-OF-POCKET SPENDING FOR MEDICARE IS CAPPED AT $2,000.
ANYBODY SPENDING $10,000 PER YEAR AND OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS IT'S CAPPED AT $2,000.
>> I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT.
YOU JUMPED THE GUN QUICK.
THAT'S A BIG DEAL TOO.
>> IT IS A BIG DEAL.
ANYTHING THE INFLATION REDUCTION ACT DID THERE WAS A CAP ON ANYTHING WHO ARE ON DIABETES MEDICATIONS.
CAPPED $35.
THEY GO AND GET VACCINATIONS AND THEY ARE FREE.
>> THERE WAS SOME IMMEDIATE BENEFIT BUT SOME WE HAD TO WAIT PATIENTS FOR.
YOU WILL SEE THE BEST SAVINGS FOR PEOPLE OUT-OF-POCKET COSTS.
IN 2026 MEDICARE REALLY STARTS SAVING MONEY.
>> YEAH, IT'S LIKE MEDICARE IS THE PATIENT IN 2026.
>> IT'S IMPORTANT.
>> I LIKE AT SOLVENCY ALL OF THE TIME.
WE REALLY NEED TO MAKE SURE WE BRING THE COSTS DOWN BAUDS MEDICARE CARE IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE.
IT DRIVES UP MEDICARE COST AS AND IT'S A BIG PART OF HEALTHCARE DELIVERY.
THAT'S PART OF THE HEALTHCARE PLAN.
IT'S IMPORTANT WE TAKE THE MEDICATIONS TO LIVE A FULL HEALTHY LIFE.
>> WE HAVE 30 SECONDS LEFT HERE.
SEEMS LIKE BIG FAR MA WOULD BE HAPPY WITH THIS BECAUSE THEY EXPANDS THE MARKET.
IT DOES EXPAND THE MARKET, DOES IT NOT?
>> YES AND NO.
IT CAN BECAUSE OF HOW MANY GET THE MEDICATION.
IT IT WAS NEGOTIATED HOW MUCH THEY COULD CHARGE.
THEY ARE ALL READY GETTING PENALIZED.
>> THERE IS A LOT TO GO THROUGH THERE.
>> THANK YOU FOR HELPING US.
>>> NAVAJO NATION AND SAN JUAN TRIBE SIGNED A LANDMARK WATER RIGHTS AGREEMENT INCLUDING STATE AND FEDERAL AGENCIES INSURING WATER SECURITY FOR ALL USERS IN NORTHEASTERN ARIZONA.
JOINING US IS THE CHIEF ILLEGAL COUNCIL OF THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT.
ALSO LEROY OF TRAVEL COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE.
GOOD TO SEE YOU.
THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN.
GOOD TO SEE YOU THERE, VICTOR.
WE'LL START WITH YOU.
YOU ARE A BIT REMOTE.
THIS IS A BIG DEAL?
>> THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
JOINING YOU FROM THE NORTH IT'S THE COLDEST PLACE IN ARIZONA.
WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TO SETTLE WATER RIGHTS I I'M GLAD TO BE HERE WITH LEROY TODAY.
>> TELL US HOW IMPORT TAN THIS IS.
>> IT'S BRINGING CERTAINTY TO OUR PEOPLE BRINGING WATER TO OUR HOMES.
ALSO PROVIDING THE POSSIBILITY OF INFRASTRUCTURE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND AGRICULTURE AND IMPROVING OUR LAND.
>> BEFORE THE AGREEMENT, WHAT WERE YOU DEALING WITH?
>> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT BECAUSE WE KNOW WE ARE SO REMOTE OUT THERE.
WE HAD A SMALL SUPPLY OF WATER.
A LOT OF THE WATER IS NOT READILY AVAILABLE OUTSIDE THE AREA.
UNDER THE SETTLEMENT FOR HOPIE WE ARE LANDLOCKED.
WE DON'T HAVE THE CAPABILITY OF GETTING WATER OFF THE RESERVATION BUT UNDER THE SETTLEMENT WE CAN GO OFF THE RESERVATION AND BRING IN WATER.
THAT WILL GREATLY SUPPORT OUR EXISTENCE AND SURVIVAL OF OUR TRIBE.
>> AS FAR AS THE NATION IS CONFIRMED, WHAT CHANGES WITH THIS AGREEMENT?
>> I HAVE TO ECHO WHAT LEROY SAID.
WE'LL HAVE CLEAN DRINKING WATER TO OUR PEOPLE.
AS LEROY SAID, CLEAN WATER IS WHAT WE NEED NOT JUST FOR HELP BUT DRIVE AN ECONOMY.
TIED TO THE SETTLEMENT IT'S GETTING FUNDING.
I'M AHEAD OF YOU TO GET CONGRESS TO APPROVE THE SETTLEMENT.
WHAT COMES IS THE MUCH NEEDED FUNDING.
>> AS FAR AS THE WAY THINGS WERE OPPOSED TO WILL BE.
HOW WAS IT BEFORE, WHAT DOES THE AGREEMENT CALL FOR?
>> SO, IT'S EXACTLY AS YOU INTRODUCED.
IT CLARIFIES WHAT THE WATER RIGHTS ARE.
PARTICULARLY FOR THE NA OF HO NATION.
EVERY USER FROM EVERY SOURCE OF WATER, KNOWS, OKAY, THE NAVAJO NATION HAS THE RIGHT OUR RIGHTS WON'T BE THREATENED.
>> WE KNOW WE WILL GET THE WATER AND PROVIDES NOT JUST THE TRIBES BUT THE STATE OF ARIZONA AS WELL.
WE WILL BE RECEIVING WATER THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF ARIZONA.
WE SUPPORT EACH OTHER AS PARTNERSHIPS.
AS PEOPLE KNOW, THERE ARE TIMES WHEN HOPIE AND NAVAJO WERE AT ODDS BECAUSE OF WHERE WE LIVE AT.
UNDER THIS AGREEMENT WE PUT ASIDE OUR DISAGREEMENTS AND TRY TO GET SOMETHING DONE THIS IS SHOWING PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN THE TRIBES.
THE HOPIE DESCRIBES AND THIS IS THE FIRST WE COME TO THIS AGREEMENT.
>> YOU MENTION BED THE SOUTHERN AREA.
THIS GUARANTEES LAND.
IN PARTNERSHIP OF THE NATION.
THAT'S WHY I SAY, THIS WAS THE FIRST FOR US.
WE ARE PARTNERS AND MEMBERS IN THE SAME AREA.
WITH THAT, WE LIVED AMONG EACH OTHER AND SUPPORTED ONE ANOTHER THIS SETTLEMENT PROVIDES FOR THE SETTLEMENT OF OUR PEOPLE.
>> WHICH MENTIONED THE COLORADO RIVER.
THE BASIN IS UP THERE AS WELL.
GROUND WATER MANAGEMENT IS A FACTOR AROUND.
EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.
>> THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
>> I FORGET HOW MANY PAGES OFFSETLEMENT AGREEMENT THERE IS.
THEY CAN GET ONLINE IT'S EXACTLY WHAT LEROY SAID.
OUR PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HERE FOREVER AND WE'LL BE HERE FOREVER.
WITH US COMING TOGETHER WE WILL HAVE A HEALTHIER FUTURE WITHOUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE EXPERIENCED WITHOUT ACCESS TO CLEAN DRINKING WATER.
30% OF OUR HOME HAS CLEAN WATER.
OUR RATES OF COVID-19 WAS SO MUCH HIGHER.
WE HAVE A LOT OF STATISTICS UP HERE.
PEOPLE IN THE CITY WERE ABLE TO TURN ON TAP AND BE WASH THEIR HAND.
>> SAME THING WITH HOPIE.
>> A KEY PORTION IS THERE IS A PIPELINE FROM LAKE POWELL.
WATER COMING OFF THE COLORADO RIVER NOW THAT WOULD BE ENTITLED FOR OUR DESCRIBES.
ALL OF THE PARTNERS IN THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
>> THE FIRST QUESTION YOU TALKED ABOUT AND THIS MEANS FOR THE TRIBE.
WHAT ARE THE PLANS?
>> I WILL USE MY THE WESTERN PART OF THE LANDS.
BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF WATER.
WE HAVE AREAS WE CAN DEVELOP.
WE CAN'T DEVELOP ANY KIND OF ENTERPRISES UNTIL WE HAVE SUFFICIENT WATER.
TO DEVELOP SOMETHING AND BE SUCCESSFUL WE NEED WATER.
THIS WILL PROVIDE THIS FOR US.
THIS IS SOMETHING FOR OUR SIDE.
A REALLY BENEFIT AND VALUE FOR US TO HAVE.
I TRY I'D SAY THE SAME THING IN SUPPORT OF OUR COMMUNITIES.
>> INDEED, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME.
AS FAR AS GETTING THINGS GOING AND MOVING, IMPACT?
>> SO MANY VIEWERS HAVE BEEN TO ANTELOPE POINT.
THEY HAVE BEEN THERE, THEY HAVE GOTTEN ELECTRIC.
THEY DON'T HAVE FLUSHING TOILETS.
IMAGE THE CHANGE WHEN TOURIST CAN COME AND FLUSH A TOILET.
>> ALL RIGHT.
>> CLEAN TOILETS ATTRACT PEOPLE AND TOURISM.
LOW HANGING FRUIT.
>> ALL RIGHT.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
VERY ENCOURAGING CONVERSATION.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
♪ [ MUSIC ] ♪ >>> A SHOW TURNED 70 YEARS OLD THIS YEAR.
THE PROGRAM AIRED FROM 1954 TO 1989.
INFLUENCED ARIZONA KIDS.
AN EXHIBIT CELEBRATES THE SHOW'S 70th BIRTHDAY.
WE ARE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE SUNNY SLOPE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND JOINING US NOW.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU.
FOR THOSE NEW IN TOWN, WHAT WAS IT?
>> TO PUT IN WORDS IT'S HARD.
IT WAS REALLY ANTONIN SCALIA'S CHILDHOOD.
IT WAS THE CHILDHOOD FOR SO MANY TA LIVED IN ARIZONA.
IT'S THE LONGEST RUNNING KID SHOW EVER.
THEY WENT ON FOR 35 YEARS.
>> HOW DO YOU PRESENT THAT IN AN EXHIBIT.
>> SO MUCH MEMORABILIA.
SO MANY PEOPLE, I KEPT SO MANY ITEMS YOU WANT TO DO IT JUSTICE.
>> WHERE DID YOU GET THE ITEMS?
THEY WERE INTERESTING.
I MET A MAN AT A FLEE MARKET.
THE FAMILY LOANED THE PIECES OF THE CITY.
THESE ARE THE FRANKLIN PHOTOS SHOWN ON YOUR SHOW IN 2012.
ANDY WHAT HAD A LOT OF THESE ITEMS.
I ASKED IF I COULD GET THEM ON LOAN.
>> WAS IT DIFFICULT TO GET THIS STUFF?
>> NO, ALMOST EVERYONE WAS LIKE TAKE MY ENTIRE COLLECTION.
I WAS LIKE I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ROOM FOR EVERYTHING.
ALL OF THE DIFFERENT BAGS.
>> EVERYONE WANTED ONE WHAT WAS THIS BAG?
>> IT WAS JUST THEY HAD THE TOY COTTAGE KIDS WOULD HAVE TO PICK UP TOYS.
THEY SWITCHED OVER TO THE BAG.
IT HAD SPONSOR ITEMS AND TOYS.
THEY WOULD DO THE BUCKET OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT.
CALL A SEAT OR CHILD'S NAME AND THEY GOT THE BAG.
>> THERE WAS THE KID AND BAG AND HAPPINESS THEREAFTER WARDS.
A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT,.
>> PEOPLE COME IN AND ASK FOR THE BAGS.
I HAVEN'T HAD ONE.
>> AS FAR AS THE EXHIBITS CONCERN, YOU HAVE SPEAKERS PAD MADE APPEARANCES.
>> WE HAD DAVE HORN.
HE WROTE A FEW BOOKS.
WE WILL HAVE STEVE ON SAD.
SEPTEMBER 14th, THAT'S OUR GRAND OPENING.
>> VERY GOOD.
WHY DO YOU THINK, I HAVE TO SAY, ONE OF MY FIRST JOBS WAS ON CHANNEL FIVE.
>> MY DAD TOLD ME.
>> OKAY, THERE YOU GO.
I KNOW WHAT THE SHOW IS ABOUT.
I HAD A LOT OF FUN.
THE HUMOR WAS SNARKY AND STRONG.
WHY DO YOU THINK IT WAS SO SUCCESSFUL FOR SO LONG?
>> I THINK, IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN UNLESS YOU GREW UP WITH IT.
I DIDN'T GROW UP WITH IT BUT I COULD TELL WHAT WAS SPECIAL ABOUT IT THEY CARED ABOUT THE AUDIENCE THEY ALL CARED FOR THE CHILDREN OF ARIZONA AND GAVE BACK SO MUCH.
YOU COULD TELL THEY LOVED EACH OTHER EVEN PLAYING THE CHARACTERS ON THE SHOW.
>> YOUR RESPONSE.
>> WE HAD DIFFERENT GROUPS THAT LOVED IT.
WE HAD 125 PEOPLE SINCE APRIL.
>> YES, WE WANT TO CELEBRATE IT.
PAT IS ONE OF THE ONLY MEMBERS LEFT ALIVE.
WE WANT TO CELEBRATE WHAT THEY CREATED AND LEGACY LEFT BEHIND.
>> BEST OF LUCK.
I AM SURE THEY ARE LOOKING DOWN.
I'LL MOVE THIS OVER HERE AND THAT OVER THERE.
CONGRATULATIONS.
GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE SHOW.
>> THERE WAS A DREAM COME TRUE.
>> THAT'S IT FOR NOW.
I'M TED SIMON.
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
HAVE A GREAT
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