
Qatar mediates for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas
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U.S. prepares response to Jordan attack as Qatar pushes for Israel-Hamas ceasefire
As the U.S. moves closer to retaliating for a drone attack that killed three American troops in Jordan, leaders from Egypt, Israel, Qatar and the U.S are negotiating for a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of Israeli hostages. Dr. Majid bin Mohammed Al Ansari, Qatari foreign ministry spokesperson, joins Nick Schifrin to discuss the latest.
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Qatar mediates for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas
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As the U.S. moves closer to retaliating for a drone attack that killed three American troops in Jordan, leaders from Egypt, Israel, Qatar and the U.S are negotiating for a ceasefire in Gaza and the release of Israeli hostages. Dr. Majid bin Mohammed Al Ansari, Qatari foreign ministry spokesperson, joins Nick Schifrin to discuss the latest.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipThe U.S. has moved closer to troops in Jordan.
President Biden said today he# has decided how to respond.
As he left the White## House this morning, he said Iran shares the blame# because U.S. officials believe an Iran-backed## militia launched the attack.
But he stopped# short of saying that Tehran is now a target.
JOE BIDEN, President of the United# States: I do hold them responsible## in the sense that they're supplying the# weapons to think we need a wider war in the Middle# East.
That's not what I'm looking for.
GEOFF BENNETT: Later, the Iraqi militia# blamed for the attack announced its## suspending strikes against U.S. forces# in the region.
The Pentagon sa ying -- quote -- "Actions# speak louder than words."
Meantime, in the occupied West Bank surveillance# video showed Israeli comma in the city of Jenin disguised as civilian# women and medics.
Three Palestinian militants## were killed.
And in Southern Gaza,# fighting raged again around Khan Yunis,## while Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin# Netanyahu ruled out any military withdrawal.
BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, Israeli Prime Minister# (through translator): I hear sayings about## all sorts of d end this war without achieving all of# our goals.
We will not pul IDF from the Gaza Strip and we will# not release thousands of terrorists.
GEOFF BENNETT: For his part, the# leader of Hamas said he will meet## with mediators in Cairo to review# the latest cease-fire We're joined now by our own Nick Schifrin.
So, Nick, let's start with the attack# in Jordan.
What more do we know about how# the administration is planning NI CK SCHIFRIN: Administration officials# say that the challenge is to re-establish## deterrence against these Iranian-backed# groups without going to wa So what could that look like?
And what I'm# about to describe are kind of the broad## categories of targets.
A group of categories,# number one -- a group of targets, numbe is Iranian-backed groups in Iraq and Syria.
So,# these are Iraqis and Syrians who fight for these## groups whose weapons, intelligence,# and financing often comes from Iran.
The second category is Iranian# assets in Iraq and Syria.
Now,## what's the difference?
There are Iranians from# Iran's Revolutionary Guard Corps' Quds Force,## that run centers in these places, that run# weapons sites in these places.
And these are## obviously Iranians running these places.
Some of# them are in Damascus and Baghdad in the capitals## where these commanders fly into, but there are# also more rural targets, I'm told, as well.
And then the third category would be Iran# itself.
We're talking about everything from## the IRGC headquarters in downtown Tehran# to Iranian naval ships, including a ship## that a former military official tells me# is helping the Houthis in Yemen.
So, again,## those are the broad categories.
We don't know, of# course, know what the final target's g But, today, National Security Council spokesman# John Kirby said that the response would be tiered,## multiple actions over a period of time.
And# that suggests more than one round.
They are## also looking at that statement that you# mentioned, Geoff, maybe Kataib Hezbollah,## the most likely group that targeted# the troops in Jordan this weekend,## saying that, look, we're not# going to fire on U.S. troops.
This is a sign, some regional officials believe,# that Iran doesn't want t administration official tells me they're# monitoring that statement, but they don't## take it as face value.
And, as you said, the# Pentagon say, actions speak louder tha GEOFF BENNETT: Well, as we mentioned,## Hamas an What does that signal, that# they're taking this seriously?
NICK SCHIFRIN: The mediators certainly hope# an it seriously.
And these details that we# have on the hostage talks now have been## provided to me by an official briefed on# the talks.
This is how they would unveil.
The hostage releases would occur over# three phases.
Older women and children## would be the first phase.
Men and# younger women would be the second## phase.
And soldiers and dead bodies would# be the third phase.
The first la st six weeks.
What does that mean?
The# war would actually stop for six weeks,## with assurances that the pause in the fighting# would carry on to phases two and three.
Now, despite what you just read,# Geoff, about what Netanyahu said,## Israel has agreed to this framework on# paper.
And that's why the ball Ha mas' court right now.
That meeting is# absolutely key and will decide whether## this deal goes forward.
And it's all being# mediated by Qatar, as we have talked about.
And just a short time ago, I spoke with# Dr. Majed Al-Ansari the spokesman for## the ministry of foreign affairs in# Qatar.
And I began by asking him how## significant it was that these# principles were now in place.
MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL-ANSARI, Qatari Foreign# Ministry Spokesman: I can tell you that we## are at a good mome things that have eluded us for a# couple of months now we are at.
We are seeing a draft being# circulated, as you saw today,## Hamas announcing that they have received# the draft and are discussing it.
And that## is a point that we were very far from# a couple of weeks back.
Now we have a## general understanding of what the next phase of# the pause will be and how that will play out.
And I would say that this is very significant,# because, as long as the process is ongoing like## this, as long as we're having ideas going back# and forth, we can be sure that at least there## is a light at the end of the tunnel where we# can get to a sustainable pause at the end.
NICK SCHIFRIN: As you said, Ismail Haniyeh# today said he was going to review the dra and he's flying to Cairo, presumably to discuss# with Hamas' military commanders Bu t Haniyeh and Hamas in general# have reiterated the same point,## that they want a permanent cease-fire as part of# this deal and that, until that is in the deal,## they will reject it.
This deal does not have# the words permanent cease-fire.
So how do you## get over or how do you convince them to# go over that concern that they have h MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI: You know Nick,# we have been mediating between the two sides## since 2006, when the United States asked# us to op And we have grown to understand the patterns# of the negotiations that go through.
on both sides, you will hear a lot of statements.## You will hear grand positions over a# lo is that the mediation in its entirety has# always been key to the process itself So we are listening to what we are getting from# both sides.
We believe that the language we have## right now builds upon the proposals that came# from both sides during the past couple of months.
NICK SCHIFRIN: But is Hamas still insisting# that the drafts have a permanent cease-fire?
MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI: Usually,# what happens is that you get a bu t" from both sides.
So, it depends on the sides of that# ask th I'm quite sure that we are on the right track.
NICK SCHIFRIN: We heard from the reiterating Israel's goals of -- quote --# "eliminating Hamas" and releasing the hostag And as we heard earlier, he said the# Israeli military will not withdraw from## the Gaza Strip.
That's what he said today.# Does that prevent this deal from happening?
MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI: I think it's# very important not to take ever in front of cameras at face value.
I know# we're speaking in front of (L AUGHTER) of this and trying to adhere to one's voter# base, rather than the reality of the situation.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Let me zoom out and look# at some regional issues.
President Biden## said today he has decided how to# respond to this attack tha saw over the weekend in Jordan that# killed three U.S. service members.
Yesterday, the prime minister, speaking here# in Washington, he urged de-escalation.
What## is your message to the Biden administration# today as they are about to launch this strike?
MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI: I can tell# you that this attack came as -- and we## all understand how dangerous it# is and how problematic it is.
And we -- as you know, we are members# in the coalition against therefore, our military personnel# are in the same operations as U.S.... (CROSSTALK) actually counter-ISIS mission.# That's wha MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI: Exactly.
obviously, but we have to understand# also the bigger picture here.
All of this is a byproduct of what is# happening right now in Gaz the Middle East.
We -- it's a cliche to say# that the Middle East is the capital of all## crises in the world, but right now we are at a# situation where the people of the region can't## take any more refugee crisis, can't take any more# security challenges, can't take Wh at's happening in the region right now is# that you have a failure of the central state.## And it's very important for us to make# sure that we de-escalate.
Any escalation right now in the region could result in# open war.
We are -- we fully understand,## of course, that the United States has to# reestablish the deterrence in the region.
But we also are talking to our# partners in the administration,## our partners around the world the need# to -- for any response to be measured and for us to be able to talk about this and# to get the messages across on all sides.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Many U.S. officials don't# believe that this is actually about Gaza.## This is about Iran, Iran pushing# these or supplying the th e intelligence, the weaponry to# these Iranian-backed proxies in Iraq## and Syria and the Houthis in Yemen# to be able to launch these attacks.
Iran has been helping these groups.
The U.S.# is about to hit these groups and perhaps Iran## itself.
What is the off-ramp, in Qatar's view, for# what we're about to see, increasing escalation?
MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI: Well, the# important thing here is for a measure## of response and not to antagonize the --# all the sides While I fully understand that there is# a lot of emotion also linked to this,## we have to understand that, when# this crisis started in Gaza,## this is when this escalation started.
And# unless we diffuse the original crisis here,## unless we diffuse the war on Gaza, a lot of# escalations will utilize that in the region,## a lot of proxies will utilize that in# the region to conduct such attacks.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Finally, sir, I will ask you# about comments by Benjamin Ne This was leaked audio to a group of family members# of hostages being held in Gaza.
He said -- quote## -- "You don't hear me thanking Qatar.
They# have leverage because they finance Hamas."
I have asked you a version of this question# before, but there are critics of yours who## say you are both arsonist and firefighter;# you are coming in to try and but you are the arsonist, in the sense that you're# supporting Hamas.
What's your response to that?
MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI: If you are going# to accuse Qatar of supporting Ha funding that was done through aid, then the same the funding that went into aid into Gaza was# done in complete coordination with Israel.
The money went through Israeli banks to make# sure that we have enough calm in Gaza that we## can work on mediation.
And this is what we have# been doing since 2006.
But I can tell you that,## sadly, when we hear these words# coming from Prime Minister Netanyahu,## the only thing we can see there is# the politicization of this crisis.
He has made such statements about Qatar# on the eve of -- and he doubled down o these statements on the eve of# the meeting in Paris, when he## is sending his chief of intelligence# to mee And while he is engaged in that mediation,# if he is sincere about what he is saying## in Qatar, can he answer the question of# why he worked with Qatar on the funding## of the aid programs in Gaza, why he is# working now in the mediation, and why,## even on the 28th of September of last year,# so just a week before the 7th of October,## his government was engaged in mediation that# Qatar was doing between Hamas and Israel?
It is totally unacceptable, but,# sadly, we have grown accustomed to it.
NICK SCHIFRIN: Dr. Majed, thank you very much.
MAJED BIN MOHAMMED AL ANSARI:#
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