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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipGWEN: SHUTDOWNS AND SHOWDOWNS OVER BUDGET POLITICS, DIPLOMACY AND THREATS OF EVERY KIND, OVER BUDGET POLITICS, DIPLOMACY AND THREATS OF EVERY KIND, TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
AND THREATS OF EVERY KIND, TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
>> DELIVER US FROM GOVERNING BY TONIGHT ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."
>> DELIVER US FROM GOVERNING BY JUDICIOUS >> DELIVER US FROM GOVERNING BY JUDICIOUS UAMPROMISE FOR THE MUTL JUDICIOUS UAMPROMISE FOR THE MUTL PROGRESS OF ALL.
UAMPROMISE FOR THE MUTL PROGRESS OF ALL.
GWEN: PRAYING FOR COMPROMISE PROGRESS OF ALL.
GWEN: PRAYING FOR COMPROMISE WITH NONE IN SIGHT AS TEA PARTY GWEN: PRAYING FOR COMPROMISE WITH NONE IN SIGHT AS TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS USE A DEBATE OVER WITH NONE IN SIGHT AS TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS USE A DEBATE OVER THE BUDGET AND THE DEBT CEILING REPUBLICANS USE A DEBATE OVER THE BUDGET AND THE DEBT CEILING TO TRY TO DERAIL THE HEALTH THE BUDGET AND THE DEBT CEILING TO TRY TO DERAIL THE HEALTH CARE LAW.
TO TRY TO DERAIL THE HEALTH CARE LAW.
>> MADAM PRESIDENT, I RISE CARE LAW.
>> MADAM PRESIDENT, I RISE TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I RISE TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO OBAMACARE.
TODAY IN OPPOSITION TO OBAMACARE.
GWEN: REPUBLICAN LEADERS ARE OBAMACARE.
GWEN: REPUBLICAN LEADERS ARE LESS THAN THRILLED.
GWEN: REPUBLICAN LEADERS ARE LESS THAN THRILLED.
>> I DON'T THINK FILIBUSTERING LESS THAN THRILLED.
>> I DON'T THINK FILIBUSTERING A BILL THAT DEFUNDS OBAMACARE >> I DON'T THINK FILIBUSTERING A BILL THAT DEFUNDS OBAMACARE IS THE BEST ROUTE.
A BILL THAT DEFUNDS OBAMACARE IS THE BEST ROUTE.
GWEN: AND DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING IS THE BEST ROUTE.
GWEN: AND DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING BACK.
GWEN: AND DEMOCRATS ARE PUSHING BACK.
>> YOU CAN HUFF, YOU CAN PUFF BACK.
>> YOU CAN HUFF, YOU CAN PUFF FOR 21 HOURS, BUT YOU CANNOT >> YOU CAN HUFF, YOU CAN PUFF FOR 21 HOURS, BUT YOU CANNOT BLOW THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT FOR 21 HOURS, BUT YOU CANNOT BLOW THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AWAY.
BLOW THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AWAY.
>> NO CONGRESS BEFORE THIS ONE AWAY.
>> NO CONGRESS BEFORE THIS ONE BEEN R, EVER IN HISTORY >> NO CONGRESS BEFORE THIS ONE BEEN R, EVER IN HISTORY IRRESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO BEEN R, EVER IN HISTORY IRRESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO THREATEN DEFAULT.
IRRESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO THREATEN DEFAULT.
GWEN: WHILE AT THE UNITED THREATEN DEFAULT.
GWEN: WHILE AT THE UNITED NATIONS, COMPROMISE DOES TAKE GWEN: WHILE AT THE UNITED NATIONS, COMPROMISE DOES TAKE CENTER STAGE.
NATIONS, COMPROMISE DOES TAKE CENTER STAGE.
ON SYRIA -- CENTER STAGE.
ON SYRIA -- >> I WAS PLEASED TO HAVE A ON SYRIA -- >> I WAS PLEASED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE FOREIGN >> I WAS PLEASED TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE FOREIGN MINISTER.
MEETING WITH THE FOREIGN MINISTER.
GWEN: AND ON IRAN -- MINISTER.
GWEN: AND ON IRAN -- >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE A GWEN: AND ON IRAN -- >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PURSUE >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO PURSUE DIPLOMACY.
RESPONSIBILITY TO PURSUE DIPLOMACY.
WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO DIPLOMACY.
WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PROGRESS WITH THE NEW WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE PROGRESS WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP IN TEHRAN.
MAKE PROGRESS WITH THE NEW LEADERSHIP IN TEHRAN.
GWEN: WITH US TONIGHT ARE LEADERSHIP IN TEHRAN.
GWEN: WITH US TONIGHT ARE GLORIA BORGER OF CNN, KAREN GWEN: WITH US TONIGHT ARE GLORIA BORGER OF CNN, KAREN TUMULTY OF THE WASHINGTON POST.
GLORIA BORGER OF CNN, KAREN TUMULTY OF THE WASHINGTON POST.
KIMBERLY DOZIER OF THE TUMULTY OF THE WASHINGTON POST.
KIMBERLY DOZIER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AND DOYLE KIMBERLY DOZIER OF THE ASSOCIATED PRESS AND DOYLE MCMANUS OF THE "LOS ANGELES ASSOCIATED PRESS AND DOYLE MCMANUS OF THE "LOS ANGELES TIMES."
MCMANUS OF THE "LOS ANGELES TIMES."
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND TIMES."
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS.
>> AWARD-WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS.
COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
ANALYSIS.
COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.
LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK TH WI LIVE FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK TH WI GWEN IFILL."
ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
IFILL.
GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
WASHINGTON WAS SPLIT IN TWO GWEN: GOOD EVENING.
WASHINGTON WAS SPLIT IN TWO THIS WEEK WITH ONE EYE ON THE WASHINGTON WAS SPLIT IN TWO THIS WEEK WITH ONE EYE ON THE UNFOLDING DRAMA ON CAPITOL HILL THIS WEEK WITH ONE EYE ON THE UNFOLDING DRAMA ON CAPITOL HILL OVER THE REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO UNFOLDING DRAMA ON CAPITOL HILL OVER THE REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO DERAIL THE HEALTH CARE LAW AND OVER THE REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO DERAIL THE HEALTH CARE LAW AND THE OTHER ON THE UNITED NATIONS DERAIL THE HEALTH CARE LAW AND THE OTHER ON THE UNITED NATIONS WHERE THERE WAS TANGIBLE THE OTHER ON THE UNITED NATIONS WHERE THERE WAS TANGIBLE MOVEMENT ON IRAN AND SYRIA.
WHERE THERE WAS TANGIBLE MOVEMENT ON IRAN AND SYRIA.
WE START ON THE HILL WHERE THE MOVEMENT ON IRAN AND SYRIA.
WE START ON THE HILL WHERE THE SENATE VOTED TODAY TO TURN WE START ON THE HILL WHERE THE SENATE VOTED TODAY TO TURN ASIDE A REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO SENATE VOTED TODAY TO TURN ASIDE A REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO STRIP FUNDING FROM THE HEALTH ASIDE A REPUBLICAN EFFORT TO STRIP FUNDING FROM THE HEALTH CARE LAW FROM THE BUDGET.
STRIP FUNDING FROM THE HEALTH CARE LAW FROM THE BUDGET.
THE VOTE DIVIDED REPUBLICANS CARE LAW FROM THE BUDGET.
THE VOTE DIVIDED REPUBLICANS THROUGH THE BILL BACK TO THE THE VOTE DIVIDED REPUBLICANS THROUGH THE BILL BACK TO THE FRACTIOUS HOUSE, SETTING THE THROUGH THE BILL BACK TO THE FRACTIOUS HOUSE, SETTING THE STAGE FOR MORE FIGHTS TO COME.
FRACTIOUS HOUSE, SETTING THE STAGE FOR MORE FIGHTS TO COME.
IN THE HOUSE DOES NOT AGREE STAGE FOR MORE FIGHTS TO COME.
IN THE HOUSE DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE SENATE APPROACH, WILL IN THE HOUSE DOES NOT AGREE WITH THE SENATE APPROACH, WILL THE GOVERNMENT BE FORCED TO WITH THE SENATE APPROACH, WILL THE GOVERNMENT BE FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR THE GOVERNMENT BE FORCED TO SHUT DOWN WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS MONDAY AT MIDNIGHT?
SHUT DOWN WHEN THE FISCAL YEAR ENDS MONDAY AT MIDNIGHT?
TED CRUZ, WHO TRIED TO DERAIL ENDS MONDAY AT MIDNIGHT?
TED CRUZ, WHO TRIED TO DERAIL IT BY TALKING FOR 21 HOURS SAYS TED CRUZ, WHO TRIED TO DERAIL IT BY TALKING FOR 21 HOURS SAYS THE SENATE IS NOT LISTENING TO IT BY TALKING FOR 21 HOURS SAYS THE SENATE IS NOT LISTENING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THE SENATE IS NOT LISTENING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> WE'RE HOME ON THE CAMPAIGN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
>> WE'RE HOME ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
>> WE'RE HOME ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
WE SAY WE LISTEN.
TRAIL.
WE SAY WE LISTEN.
AND YET SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WE SAY WE LISTEN.
AND YET SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WASHINGTON, D.C., I DON'T KNOW AND YET SOMETHING ABOUT THIS WASHINGTON, D.C., I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THE WATER, THE AIR, WASHINGTON, D.C., I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S IN THE WATER, THE AIR, THE TCHERY BLOSSOMS, BUT PEOPLE IF IT'S IN THE WATER, THE AIR, THE TCHERY BLOSSOMS, BUT PEOPLE GET HERE AND STOP LISTENING TO THE TCHERY BLOSSOMS, BUT PEOPLE GET HERE AND STOP LISTENING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
GET HERE AND STOP LISTENING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT TOOK IT TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT TOOK IT TO THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
GWEN: THE PRESIDENT TOOK IT TO THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
>> CONGRESS NEEDS TO PUT AN END THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL.
>> CONGRESS NEEDS TO PUT AN END TO GOVERNING FROM CRISIS TO >> CONGRESS NEEDS TO PUT AN END TO GOVERNING FROM CRISIS TO CRISIS.
TO GOVERNING FROM CRISIS TO CRISIS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS, CRISIS.
THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS, IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR THIS IS NOT ABOUT POLITICS, IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY.
IT'S ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY.
GWEN: WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, KAREN?
COUNTRY.
GWEN: WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, KAREN?
>> WHAT'S NOW IS I THINK ALL GWEN: WHAT HAPPENS NEXT, KAREN?
>> WHAT'S NOW IS I THINK ALL EYES ARE ON JOHN BOEHNER AND >> WHAT'S NOW IS I THINK ALL EYES ARE ON JOHN BOEHNER AND WHETHER HE CAN COME UP BETWEEN EYES ARE ON JOHN BOEHNER AND WHETHER HE CAN COME UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE BEGINNING OF THE WHETHER HE CAN COME UP BETWEEN NOW AND THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, MIDNIGHT, NOW AND THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW FISCAL YEAR, MIDNIGHT, OCTOBER 1, THAT'S TUESDAY, WITH NEW FISCAL YEAR, MIDNIGHT, OCTOBER 1, THAT'S TUESDAY, WITH SOME KIND OF BILL THAT COULD OCTOBER 1, THAT'S TUESDAY, WITH SOME KIND OF BILL THAT COULD KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN.
SOME KIND OF BILL THAT COULD KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN.
NOW, THAT'S GOING TO MEAN KEEP THE GOVERNMENT OPEN.
NOW, THAT'S GOING TO MEAN APPEASING HIS TEA PARTY MEMBERS NOW, THAT'S GOING TO MEAN APPEASING HIS TEA PARTY MEMBERS ON HIS SIDE OF THE CAPITAL AND APPEASING HIS TEA PARTY MEMBERS ON HIS SIDE OF THE CAPITAL AND ALSO COMING UP WITH SOMETHING ON HIS SIDE OF THE CAPITAL AND ALSO COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE ALSO COMING UP WITH SOMETHING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE SENATE.
THAT IS ACCEPTABLE TO THE SENATE.
OTHERWISE WE'RE INTO SHUMECALLY SENATE.
OTHERWISE WE'RE INTO SHUMECALLY GOVERNMENT WOULD SHUT DOWN BUT OTHERWISE WE'RE INTO SHUMECALLY GOVERNMENT WOULD SHUT DOWN BUT OBAMACARE WOULD PROCEED ON THAT GOVERNMENT WOULD SHUT DOWN BUT OBAMACARE WOULD PROCEED ON THAT VERY DAY AND ENROLLMENT IN THE OBAMACARE WOULD PROCEED ON THAT VERY DAY AND ENROLLMENT IN THE EXCHANGES WOULD BEGIN WHETHER VERY DAY AND ENROLLMENT IN THE EXCHANGES WOULD BEGIN WHETHER OR NOT THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS EXCHANGES WOULD BEGIN WHETHER OR NOT THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN.
OR NOT THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN.
GWEN: IT'S INTERESTING TO ME DOWN.
GWEN: IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT THIS HAS BEEN BOUNCED BACK GWEN: IT'S INTERESTING TO ME THAT THIS HAS BEEN BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH, PING-PONG BALL THAT THIS HAS BEEN BOUNCED BACK AND FORTH, PING-PONG BALL BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE AND FORTH, PING-PONG BALL BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE THAT AS WE SIT HERE AT 8:00 ON BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND SENATE THAT AS WE SIT HERE AT 8:00 ON FRIDAY NIGHT, THEY'VE BOTH LEFT THAT AS WE SIT HERE AT 8:00 ON FRIDAY NIGHT, THEY'VE BOTH LEFT TOWN.
FRIDAY NIGHT, THEY'VE BOTH LEFT TOWN.
THERE'S NO ALL WEEK LONG TOWN.
THERE'S NO ALL WEEK LONG DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS THAT THERE'S NO ALL WEEK LONG DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE DISCUSSIONS AND MEETINGS THAT WE KNOW ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
WE KNOW ABOUT TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
>> WHAT'S STUNNING TO ME AND I THIS OUT.
>> WHAT'S STUNNING TO ME AND I THINK ALL OF US HAVE COVERED >> WHAT'S STUNNING TO ME AND I THINK ALL OF US HAVE COVERED THESE ON THE BRINK KINDS OF THINK ALL OF US HAVE COVERED THESE ON THE BRINK KINDS OF THINGS IS THAT THERE AREN'T THESE ON THE BRINK KINDS OF THINGS IS THAT THERE AREN'T MANY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THINGS IS THAT THERE AREN'T MANY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS DISCUSSIONS AT ALL BETWEEN MANY BEHIND CLOSED DOORS DISCUSSIONS AT ALL BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
DISCUSSIONS AT ALL BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE BUSY AND DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS.
THE REPUBLICANS ARE BUSY AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING THE REPUBLICANS ARE BUSY AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AT NOON ON SATURDAY TRYING TO THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE A MEETING AT NOON ON SATURDAY TRYING TO GET THEIR OWN CAULK NEWS ORDER, AT NOON ON SATURDAY TRYING TO GET THEIR OWN CAULK NEWS ORDER, ON THE HOUSE SIDE BUT THERE'S GET THEIR OWN CAULK NEWS ORDER, ON THE HOUSE SIDE BUT THERE'S NO CLOSED DOOR NEGOTIATIONS ON THE HOUSE SIDE BUT THERE'S NO CLOSED DOOR NEGOTIATIONS WITH HOUSE STAFFERS, HILL NO CLOSED DOOR NEGOTIATIONS WITH HOUSE STAFFERS, HILL STAFFERS.
WITH HOUSE STAFFERS, HILL STAFFERS.
ZERO, NADA.
STAFFERS.
ZERO, NADA.
NONE OF THAT.
ZERO, NADA.
NONE OF THAT.
BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID NONE OF THAT.
BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID WE ARE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE ON THIS, PERIOD.
WE ARE NOT GOING TO NEGOTIATE ON THIS, PERIOD.
YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE, AS HE PUT ON THIS, PERIOD.
YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE, AS HE PUT IT WITH SOMEBODY TRYING TO BURN YOU DON'T NEGOTIATE, AS HE PUT IT WITH SOMEBODY TRYING TO BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN OR WHATEVER.
IT WITH SOMEBODY TRYING TO BURN YOUR HOUSE DOWN OR WHATEVER.
THEY'RE USING REALLY STRONG YOUR HOUSE DOWN OR WHATEVER.
THEY'RE USING REALLY STRONG LANGUAGE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
THEY'RE USING REALLY STRONG LANGUAGE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
HOSTAGE TAKING.
LANGUAGE AT THE WHITE HOUSE.
HOSTAGE TAKING.
BONDS STRAPPED TO THE CHEST.
HOSTAGE TAKING.
BONDS STRAPPED TO THE CHEST.
THEY'RE JUST NOT TALKING.
BONDS STRAPPED TO THE CHEST.
THEY'RE JUST NOT TALKING.
GWEN: IS THERE A DIFFERENCE THEY'RE JUST NOT TALKING.
GWEN: IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STRATEGY PLAYING GWEN: IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE STRATEGY PLAYING OUT ON THE DEBT CEILING, WHICH BETWEEN THE STRATEGY PLAYING OUT ON THE DEBT CEILING, WHICH RUNS OUT OCTOBER 17, OUR OUT ON THE DEBT CEILING, WHICH RUNS OUT OCTOBER 17, OUR ABILITY TO PAY OUR BILLS AND RUNS OUT OCTOBER 17, OUR ABILITY TO PAY OUR BILLS AND THE BUDGET, WHICH HAS TO BE ABILITY TO PAY OUR BILLS AND THE BUDGET, WHICH HAS TO BE FUNDED BY OCTOBER 1.
THE BUDGET, WHICH HAS TO BE FUNDED BY OCTOBER 1.
THE WHITE HOUSE SEEMS MORE FUNDED BY OCTOBER 1.
THE WHITE HOUSE SEEMS MORE UPSET ABOUT THE FORMER THAN THE THE WHITE HOUSE SEEMS MORE UPSET ABOUT THE FORMER THAN THE LATTER.
UPSET ABOUT THE FORMER THAN THE LATTER.
>> WELL, THE CONSEQUENCES OF LATTER.
>> WELL, THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE DEBT CEILING, GOING INTO A >> WELL, THE CONSEQUENCES OF THE DEBT CEILING, GOING INTO A DEFAULT ARE MUCH, MUCH GREATER THE DEBT CEILING, GOING INTO A DEFAULT ARE MUCH, MUCH GREATER THAN THE CONSEQUENCES OF DEFAULT ARE MUCH, MUCH GREATER THAN THE CONSEQUENCES OF SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT THAN THE CONSEQUENCES OF SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT FOR A FEW DAYS OR EVEN A FEW SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT FOR A FEW DAYS OR EVEN A FEW WEEKS.
FOR A FEW DAYS OR EVEN A FEW WEEKS.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE DEBT WEEKS.
WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE DEBT CEILING IS -- FIRST OF ALL IT'S WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE DEBT CEILING IS -- FIRST OF ALL IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE DEBT CEILING IS -- FIRST OF ALL IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE DEBT CEILING IS NOT ABOUT IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THE DEBT CEILING IS NOT ABOUT CONTROLLING SPENDING OR CEILING IS NOT ABOUT CONTROLLING SPENDING OR CONTROLLING THE DEFICIT.
CONTROLLING SPENDING OR CONTROLLING THE DEFICIT.
IT'S ABOUT WHETHER YOU PAY THE CONTROLLING THE DEFICIT.
IT'S ABOUT WHETHER YOU PAY THE BILLS YOU'VE ALREADY RUN UP AND IT'S ABOUT WHETHER YOU PAY THE BILLS YOU'VE ALREADY RUN UP AND ONCE YOU HIT THE DEBT CEILING, BILLS YOU'VE ALREADY RUN UP AND ONCE YOU HIT THE DEBT CEILING, THINGS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY ONCE YOU HIT THE DEBT CEILING, THINGS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS WOULD CEASE TO GO OUT THINGS LIKE SOCIAL SECURITY CHECKS WOULD CEASE TO GO OUT AND OUR CREDORS AROUND THE CHECKS WOULD CEASE TO GO OUT AND OUR CREDORS AROUND THE WORLD, THERE'S A -- CREDITORS AND OUR CREDORS AROUND THE WORLD, THERE'S A -- CREDITORS AROUND THE WORLD, THERE'S A WORLD, THERE'S A -- CREDITORS AROUND THE WORLD, THERE'S A REAL CHANCE OF A GLOBAL AROUND THE WORLD, THERE'S A REAL CHANCE OF A GLOBAL MELTDOWN.
REAL CHANCE OF A GLOBAL MELTDOWN.
>> HERE'S THE THING ABOUT MELTDOWN.
>> HERE'S THE THING ABOUT PUBLIC OPINION ON THIS.
>> HERE'S THE THING ABOUT PUBLIC OPINION ON THIS.
PUBLIC OPINION IS ON THE FIRST PUBLIC OPINION ON THIS.
PUBLIC OPINION IS ON THE FIRST ONE, DON'T SHUT THE GOVERNMENT PUBLIC OPINION IS ON THE FIRST ONE, DON'T SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE ONE, DON'T SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS ON THE DEBT CEILING, DOWN BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS ON THE DEBT CEILING, PEOPLE BELIEVE IT SHOULD POLLS ON THE DEBT CEILING, PEOPLE BELIEVE IT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE TIED TO SOME KIND PEOPLE BELIEVE IT SHOULD ACTUALLY BE TIED TO SOME KIND OF BUDGET COMPROMISE BECAUSE ACTUALLY BE TIED TO SOME KIND OF BUDGET COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE FEELING NATURALLY IS IF YOU OF BUDGET COMPROMISE BECAUSE THE FEELING NATURALLY IS IF YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR CREDIT CARD YOU THE FEELING NATURALLY IS IF YOU CAN'T PAY YOUR CREDIT CARD YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO CAN'T PAY YOUR CREDIT CARD YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TIGHTEN YOUR BELT AND EVEN THE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO TIGHTEN YOUR BELT AND EVEN THE PRESIDENT TODAY IN MAKING TIGHTEN YOUR BELT AND EVEN THE PRESIDENT TODAY IN MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT THIS SAID PRESIDENT TODAY IN MAKING COMMENTS ABOUT THIS SAID REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS TWO COMMENTS ABOUT THIS SAID REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THAT REMEMBER THE GOOD OLD DAYS TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THAT FIGHT OVER THE DEBT CEILING?
YEARS AGO WHEN WE HAD THAT FIGHT OVER THE DEBT CEILING?
AT LEAST THEN HE SAID WE WERE FIGHT OVER THE DEBT CEILING?
AT LEAST THEN HE SAID WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING THE AT LEAST THEN HE SAID WE WERE TALKING ABOUT REDUCING THE DEFICIT.
TALKING ABOUT REDUCING THE DEFICIT.
HE SAID NOW THIS ISN'T ABOUT DEFICIT.
HE SAID NOW THIS ISN'T ABOUT REDUCING THE DEFICIT, ALTHOUGH HE SAID NOW THIS ISN'T ABOUT REDUCING THE DEFICIT, ALTHOUGH REPUBLICANS THINK OBOWL CARE REDUCING THE DEFICIT, ALTHOUGH REPUBLICANS THINK OBOWL CARE WILL ADD TO THE DEFICIT.
REPUBLICANS THINK OBOWL CARE WILL ADD TO THE DEFICIT.
HE SAID THIS IS ABOUT AN AGENDA WILL ADD TO THE DEFICIT.
HE SAID THIS IS ABOUT AN AGENDA THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTACH TO HE SAID THIS IS ABOUT AN AGENDA THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTACH TO THE DEBT CEILING AND THAT'S THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ATTACH TO THE DEBT CEILING AND THAT'S WRONG.
THE DEBT CEILING AND THAT'S WRONG.
>> LET ME ASK YOU TO GO ONE WRONG.
>> LET ME ASK YOU TO GO ONE STEP FURTHER INTO THE POLLS.
>> LET ME ASK YOU TO GO ONE STEP FURTHER INTO THE POLLS.
BOTH SIDES KEEP SAYING HERE'S STEP FURTHER INTO THE POLLS.
BOTH SIDES KEEP SAYING HERE'S WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT.
BOTH SIDES KEEP SAYING HERE'S WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT.
THE PRESIDENT SAYS, THE WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT.
THE PRESIDENT SAYS, THE DEMOCRATS SAY.
THE PRESIDENT SAYS, THE DEMOCRATS SAY.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE DEMOCRATS SAY.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO STAY OPEN.
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT THE GOVERNMENT TO STAY OPEN.
TED CRUZ, TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS GOVERNMENT TO STAY OPEN.
TED CRUZ, TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS SAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT TED CRUZ, TEA PARTY REPUBLICANS SAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT OBAMACARE DELAYED OR DEFUNDED.
SAY THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WANT OBAMACARE DELAYED OR DEFUNDED.
THEY CAN'T BOTH BE RIGHT OR CAN OBAMACARE DELAYED OR DEFUNDED.
THEY CAN'T BOTH BE RIGHT OR CAN THEY?
THEY CAN'T BOTH BE RIGHT OR CAN THEY?
>> YEAH, THEY COULD.
THEY?
>> YEAH, THEY COULD.
IF THE POLLS SHOW IT'S NOT VERY >> YEAH, THEY COULD.
IF THE POLLS SHOW IT'S NOT VERY POPULAR.
IF THE POLLS SHOW IT'S NOT VERY POPULAR.
PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED BY IT, POPULAR.
PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED BY IT, DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
PEOPLE ARE CONFUSED BY IT, DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
IT WAS VOTED ON YEARS AGO BUT DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.
IT WAS VOTED ON YEARS AGO BUT NOW COMING TO FRUITION.
IT WAS VOTED ON YEARS AGO BUT NOW COMING TO FRUITION.
LIKE ANYBODY, YOU DON'T REALLY NOW COMING TO FRUITION.
LIKE ANYBODY, YOU DON'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO SOMETHING LIKE ANYBODY, YOU DON'T REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AND PAY ATTENTION TO SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
UNTIL IT'S IN FRONT OF YOU AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
IN A WAY THEY MAY BOTH BE YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT IT.
IN A WAY THEY MAY BOTH BE RIGHT.
IN A WAY THEY MAY BOTH BE RIGHT.
>> EVEN THE REPUBLICANS' OWN RIGHT.
>> EVEN THE REPUBLICANS' OWN POLLS ARE VERY CONSISTENT THAT >> EVEN THE REPUBLICANS' OWN POLLS ARE VERY CONSISTENT THAT YES, PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE POLLS ARE VERY CONSISTENT THAT YES, PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE OBAMACARE BY ABOUT A 10-POINT YES, PEOPLE DO NOT LIKE OBAMACARE BY ABOUT A 10-POINT MARGIN.
OBAMACARE BY ABOUT A 10-POINT MARGIN.
WHAT THEY LIKE EVEN LESS IS THE MARGIN.
WHAT THEY LIKE EVEN LESS IS THE IDEA OF SHUTTING DOWN THE WHAT THEY LIKE EVEN LESS IS THE IDEA OF SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT TO STOP IT.
IDEA OF SHUTTING DOWN THE GOVERNMENT TO STOP IT.
GWEN: SO HOW FAR ARE GOVERNMENT TO STOP IT.
GWEN: SO HOW FAR ARE REPUBLICANS WILLING TO GO ON GWEN: SO HOW FAR ARE REPUBLICANS WILLING TO GO ON THIS?
REPUBLICANS WILLING TO GO ON THIS?
TED CRUZ WAS THE RING LEADER THIS?
TED CRUZ WAS THE RING LEADER THIS WEEK AND APPARENTLY TED CRUZ WAS THE RING LEADER THIS WEEK AND APPARENTLY TONIGHT CONTINUES TO BE.
THIS WEEK AND APPARENTLY TONIGHT CONTINUES TO BE.
>> EVERY REPUBLICAN HAS BEEN TONIGHT CONTINUES TO BE.
>> EVERY REPUBLICAN HAS BEEN OUTSPOKEN AND ELOQUENT AGAINST >> EVERY REPUBLICAN HAS BEEN OUTSPOKEN AND ELOQUENT AGAINST OBAMA SCARE CAN -- OBAMACARE OUTSPOKEN AND ELOQUENT AGAINST OBAMA SCARE CAN -- OBAMACARE AND WHEN THE HOUSE STANDS UP OBAMA SCARE CAN -- OBAMACARE AND WHEN THE HOUSE STANDS UP AND DOES THE RIGHT THING, I AND WHEN THE HOUSE STANDS UP AND DOES THE RIGHT THING, I AND DOES THE RIGHT THING, I THINK IT WILL PRESENT A THINK IT WILL PRESENT A TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY SENATE REPUBLICAN TO STAND ARM TERRIFIC OPPORTUNITY FOR EVERY SENATE REPUBLICAN TO STAND ARM IN ARM WITH THE HOUSENT A PRETT SENATE REPUBLICAN TO STAND ARM IN ARM WITH THE HOUSENT A PRETT SIGNAL THERE.
IN ARM WITH THE HOUSENT A PRETT SIGNAL THERE.
>> AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT TODAY, SIGNAL THERE.
>> AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT TODAY, SOMETHING TRULY EXTRAORDINARY, >> AND WHAT WE FOUND OUT TODAY, SOMETHING TRULY EXTRAORDINARY, A REPORT IN THE NATIONAL REVIEW SOMETHING TRULY EXTRAORDINARY, A REPORT IN THE NATIONAL REVIEW WAS THAT EVEN AS JOHN BOEHNER A REPORT IN THE NATIONAL REVIEW WAS THAT EVEN AS JOHN BOEHNER WAS IN THE HOUSE TRYING TO WAS THAT EVEN AS JOHN BOEHNER WAS IN THE HOUSE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT, TED WAS IN THE HOUSE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT, TED CRUZ WAS IN A MEETING TALKING FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO NEXT, TED CRUZ WAS IN A MEETING TALKING TO HOUSE REPUBLICANS TELLING CRUZ WAS IN A MEETING TALKING TO HOUSE REPUBLICANS TELLING THEM TO REBEL AGAINST THEIR OWN TO HOUSE REPUBLICANS TELLING THEM TO REBEL AGAINST THEIR OWN SPEAKER.
THEM TO REBEL AGAINST THEIR OWN SPEAKER.
UNHEARD OF.
SPEAKER.
UNHEARD OF.
>> THAT'S A BIG NO-NO TRYING TO UNHEARD OF.
>> THAT'S A BIG NO-NO TRYING TO DO THAT.
>> THAT'S A BIG NO-NO TRYING TO DO THAT.
>> SO I'M WONDERING, IF THE DO THAT.
>> SO I'M WONDERING, IF THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN MIDNIGHT >> SO I'M WONDERING, IF THE GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN MIDNIGHT MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY, WHO GOVERNMENT SHUTS DOWN MIDNIGHT MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY, WHO WILL GET THE BLAME?
MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY, WHO WILL GET THE BLAME?
WHO WILL BE THE VILLE LAIN FROM WILL GET THE BLAME?
WHO WILL BE THE VILLE LAIN FROM THE PUBLIC'S POINT OF VIEW?
WHO WILL BE THE VILLE LAIN FROM THE PUBLIC'S POINT OF VIEW?
>> RIGHT NOW THE POLLS SUGGEST THE PUBLIC'S POINT OF VIEW?
>> RIGHT NOW THE POLLS SUGGEST THE PUBLIC IS EVENLY DIVIDED >> RIGHT NOW THE POLLS SUGGEST THE PUBLIC IS EVENLY DIVIDED BUT I THINK IF YOU TALKED TO THE PUBLIC IS EVENLY DIVIDED BUT I THINK IF YOU TALKED TO ANYONE WHO LIVED THROUGH THIS BUT I THINK IF YOU TALKED TO ANYONE WHO LIVED THROUGH THIS THE LAST TIME -- WE'RE TALKING ANYONE WHO LIVED THROUGH THIS THE LAST TIME -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN 1/5 OF THE THE LAST TIME -- WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LESS THAN 1/5 OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS, THEY ARE ABOUT LESS THAN 1/5 OF THE HOUSE REPUBLICANS, THEY ARE PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY KNOW HOUSE REPUBLICANS, THEY ARE PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY KNOW WHICH SIDE HAS THE BULLY PULPIT PRETTY CLEAR THAT THEY KNOW WHICH SIDE HAS THE BULLY PULPIT AND WHICH SIDE IS GOING TO GET WHICH SIDE HAS THE BULLY PULPIT AND WHICH SIDE IS GOING TO GET BLAMED.
AND WHICH SIDE IS GOING TO GET BLAMED.
GWEN: IN THE MEANTIME THE BLAMED.
GWEN: IN THE MEANTIME THE DEMOCRATS ALL ARE PROFESSING GWEN: IN THE MEANTIME THE DEMOCRATS ALL ARE PROFESSING SADNESS RATHER THAN ANGER AND DEMOCRATS ALL ARE PROFESSING SADNESS RATHER THAN ANGER AND SAYING THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING SADNESS RATHER THAN ANGER AND SAYING THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING.
SAYING THIS IS A TERRIBLE THING THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING.
WHATEVER SHALL I DO?
THE REPUBLICANS ARE DOING.
WHATEVER SHALL I DO?
LET'S LISTEN TO HARRY REID.
WHATEVER SHALL I DO?
LET'S LISTEN TO HARRY REID.
THEY'RE USING STRONG LANGUAGE.
LET'S LISTEN TO HARRY REID.
THEY'RE USING STRONG LANGUAGE.
>> PEOPLE WANT TO WORK WITH US THEY'RE USING STRONG LANGUAGE.
>> PEOPLE WANT TO WORK WITH US TO IMPROVE OBAMACARE, WE'VE >> PEOPLE WANT TO WORK WITH US TO IMPROVE OBAMACARE, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
TO IMPROVE OBAMACARE, WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM DONE THAT BEFORE.
WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM BUT NOT IN SOME SLAM BANG FORCE WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH THEM BUT NOT IN SOME SLAM BANG FORCE TO US DO IT WAY.
BUT NOT IN SOME SLAM BANG FORCE TO US DO IT WAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXTORTED.
TO US DO IT WAY.
WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXTORTED.
GWEN: WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXTORTED.
GWEN: WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXTORTED.
GWEN: WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE EXTORTED.
HARRY REID USES STRONG LANGUAGE EXTORTED.
HARRY REID USES STRONG LANGUAGE IN THE MILDEST POSSIBLE WAY BUT HARRY REID USES STRONG LANGUAGE IN THE MILDEST POSSIBLE WAY BUT WHAT DO THE DEMOCRATS DO?
IN THE MILDEST POSSIBLE WAY BUT WHAT DO THE DEMOCRATS DO?
>> THEY'RE SITTING BACK AND WHAT DO THE DEMOCRATS DO?
>> THEY'RE SITTING BACK AND LETTING IT HAPPEN BECAUSE THE >> THEY'RE SITTING BACK AND LETTING IT HAPPEN BECAUSE THE FIGHT IS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE LETTING IT HAPPEN BECAUSE THE FIGHT IS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE FOR A CHANGE AND THEY KIND OF FIGHT IS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE FOR A CHANGE AND THEY KIND OF LIKE THAT.
FOR A CHANGE AND THEY KIND OF LIKE THAT.
GWEN: THE SENATOR FROM LIKE THAT.
GWEN: THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE TAKING ON TED CRUZ -- GWEN: THE SENATOR FROM TENNESSEE TAKING ON TED CRUZ -- >> RIGHT AND THEY'RE KIND OF TENNESSEE TAKING ON TED CRUZ -- >> RIGHT AND THEY'RE KIND OF STIRRING THE POT.
>> RIGHT AND THEY'RE KIND OF STIRRING THE POT.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE NOT STIRRING THE POT.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE NOT THE PROBLEM.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE NOT THE PROBLEM.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC THE PROBLEM.
THEY BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT TO SHUT THE THEY BELIEVE THAT THE PUBLIC DOESN'T WANT TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN.
DOESN'T WANT TO SHUT THE GOVERNMENT DOWN.
THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE A VERY GOVERNMENT DOWN.
THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD CASE TO MAKE, THAT THEY'RE THEY BELIEVE THEY HAVE A VERY GOOD CASE TO MAKE, THAT THEY'RE NOT SHUTTING THE GOVERNMENT GOOD CASE TO MAKE, THAT THEY'RE NOT SHUTTING THE GOVERNMENT DOWN.
NOT SHUTTING THE GOVERNMENT DOWN.
I THINK WHAT REID IS DOING ASK DOWN.
I THINK WHAT REID IS DOING ASK SAYING DON'T LOOK AT ME, IT'S I THINK WHAT REID IS DOING ASK SAYING DON'T LOOK AT ME, IT'S NOT US.
SAYING DON'T LOOK AT ME, IT'S NOT US.
WATCHING -- WASHING HIS HANDS NOT US.
WATCHING -- WASHING HIS HANDS OF IT.
WATCHING -- WASHING HIS HANDS OF IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD THE OF IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD THE PRESIDENT DO WHEN HE SPOKE IN THAT'S WHAT WE HEARD THE PRESIDENT DO WHEN HE SPOKE IN MARYLAND THE OTHER DAY AND PRESIDENT DO WHEN HE SPOKE IN MARYLAND THE OTHER DAY AND TODAY.
MARYLAND THE OTHER DAY AND TODAY.
THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT TODAY.
THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT BELIEVES RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ON THIS IS A WHITE HOUSE THAT BELIEVES RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ON THE BETTER SIDE OF THIS BELIEVES RIGHT NOW THEY'RE ON THE BETTER SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT.
THE BETTER SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT.
I WOULD ARGUE IN THE LONG TERM, ARGUMENT.
I WOULD ARGUE IN THE LONG TERM, THOUGH, IN ANSWER TO YOUR I WOULD ARGUE IN THE LONG TERM, THOUGH, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHO DOES THE THOUGH, IN ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WHO DOES THE PUBLIC BLAME, AT SOME POINT THE QUESTION ABOUT WHO DOES THE PUBLIC BLAME, AT SOME POINT THE PEOPLE EXPECT THE PRESIDENT TO PUBLIC BLAME, AT SOME POINT THE PEOPLE EXPECT THE PRESIDENT TO LEAD.
PEOPLE EXPECT THE PRESIDENT TO LEAD.
THEY BELIEVE THE ENERGY FOR LEAD.
THEY BELIEVE THE ENERGY FOR SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION -- IF THEY BELIEVE THE ENERGY FOR SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION -- IF YOU DON'T FIND THE ADULTS IN SOME KIND OF RESOLUTION -- IF YOU DON'T FIND THE ADULTS IN THE CONGRESS, THEY'RE GOING TO YOU DON'T FIND THE ADULTS IN THE CONGRESS, THEY'RE GOING TO BELIEVE THAT THE ENERGY HAS TO THE CONGRESS, THEY'RE GOING TO BELIEVE THAT THE ENERGY HAS TO COME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
BELIEVE THAT THE ENERGY HAS TO COME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> I WANT TO ASK ON THAT COME FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
>> I WANT TO ASK ON THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE DEBT >> I WANT TO ASK ON THAT QUESTION ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING.
QUESTION ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, AS KAREN CEILING.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, AS KAREN SAID, THAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS, AS KAREN SAID, THAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF A DEBT CEILING BREACH COULD SAID, THAT THE CONSEQUENCES OF A DEBT CEILING BREACH COULD REALLY BE TERRIBLE BUT AS I A DEBT CEILING BREACH COULD REALLY BE TERRIBLE BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT IN THE HOUSE, THE REALLY BE TERRIBLE BUT AS I UNDERSTAND IT IN THE HOUSE, THE REPUBLICAN HEELEDERS -- LEADERS UNDERSTAND IT IN THE HOUSE, THE REPUBLICAN HEELEDERS -- LEADERS HAVE SAID THAT CEILING IS THE REPUBLICAN HEELEDERS -- LEADERS HAVE SAID THAT CEILING IS THE MAIN EVENT.
HAVE SAID THAT CEILING IS THE MAIN EVENT.
WE'RE REALLY GOING TO DIG IN MAIN EVENT.
WE'RE REALLY GOING TO DIG IN OUR HEELS ON THE MAIN EVENT.
WE'RE REALLY GOING TO DIG IN OUR HEELS ON THE MAIN EVENT.
PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID HE WON'T OUR HEELS ON THE MAIN EVENT.
PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID HE WON'T NEGOTIATE.
PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID HE WON'T NEGOTIATE.
DOES HE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE?
NEGOTIATE.
DOES HE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE?
GWEN: NOT TODAY.
DOES HE HAVE TO NEGOTIATE?
GWEN: NOT TODAY.
>> ONE THING HE SAYS IS SORT OF GWEN: NOT TODAY.
>> ONE THING HE SAYS IS SORT OF INACCURATE.
>> ONE THING HE SAYS IS SORT OF INACCURATE.
HE INDICATES NEGOTIATIONS OVER INACCURATE.
HE INDICATES NEGOTIATIONS OVER A DEBT CEILING HAVE NEVER HE INDICATES NEGOTIATIONS OVER A DEBT CEILING HAVE NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
A DEBT CEILING HAVE NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM HAPPEN, BUT HAPPENED BEFORE.
WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM HAPPEN, BUT I DO THINK THAT -- THE WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM HAPPEN, BUT I DO THINK THAT -- THE PRESIDENT NEGOTIATED OVER THE I DO THINK THAT -- THE PRESIDENT NEGOTIATED OVER THE DEBT CNG ENDED PRESIDENT NEGOTIATED OVER THE DEBT CNG ENDED UP WITH SEQUESTRATION AND A LOT DEBT CNG ENDED UP WITH SEQUESTRATION AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AND I THINK UP WITH SEQUESTRATION AND A LOT OF OTHER THINGS AND I THINK THAT THAT HAS SOURED HIM.
OF OTHER THINGS AND I THINK THAT THAT HAS SOURED HIM.
GWEN: AND UNRETURNED PHONE THAT THAT HAS SOURED HIM.
GWEN: AND UNRETURNED PHONE CALLS FROM JOHN BOEHNER.
GWEN: AND UNRETURNED PHONE CALLS FROM JOHN BOEHNER.
>> AND WE ENDED UP WITH THE CALLS FROM JOHN BOEHNER.
>> AND WE ENDED UP WITH THE FISCAL CLIFF.
>> AND WE ENDED UP WITH THE FISCAL CLIFF.
GWEN: IS CRISIS THE NEW NORMAL FISCAL CLIFF.
GWEN: IS CRISIS THE NEW NORMAL NOW IN WASHINGTON?
GWEN: IS CRISIS THE NEW NORMAL NOW IN WASHINGTON?
>> YEAH.
NOW IN WASHINGTON?
>> YEAH.
LOOK, I THINK THERE'S NO >> YEAH.
LOOK, I THINK THERE'S NO PENALTY FOR PEOPLE NOT LOOK, I THINK THERE'S NO PENALTY FOR PEOPLE NOT COMPROMISING.
PENALTY FOR PEOPLE NOT COMPROMISING.
IN FACT, IF YOU LIVE IN THOSE COMPROMISING.
IN FACT, IF YOU LIVE IN THOSE 40 OR 50 DISTRICTS WE'RE IN FACT, IF YOU LIVE IN THOSE 40 OR 50 DISTRICTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE HOUSE, 40 OR 50 DISTRICTS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THE HOUSE, YOU'LL BE PENALIZED IF YOU TALKING ABOUT IN THE HOUSE, YOU'LL BE PENALIZED IF YOU COMPROMISE.
YOU'LL BE PENALIZED IF YOU COMPROMISE.
>> THE PROBLEM IS ALL THESE COMPROMISE.
>> THE PROBLEM IS ALL THESE CRISES NEVER SETTLE ANYTHING.
>> THE PROBLEM IS ALL THESE CRISES NEVER SETTLE ANYTHING.
ALL THEY DO IS SET YOU UP FOR CRISES NEVER SETTLE ANYTHING.
ALL THEY DO IS SET YOU UP FOR THE NEXT CRISIS.
ALL THEY DO IS SET YOU UP FOR THE NEXT CRISIS.
GWEN: IN FACT, WE'RE TALKING THE NEXT CRISIS.
GWEN: IN FACT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
GWEN: IN FACT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
>> AND THEY MAY KICK THIS CAN ABOUT SHORT-TERM SOLUTIONS.
>> AND THEY MAY KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
>> AND THEY MAY KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD.
GWEN: OUR FAVORITE METAPHOR IS DOWN THE ROAD.
GWEN: OUR FAVORITE METAPHOR IS BACK.
GWEN: OUR FAVORITE METAPHOR IS BACK.
THANKS, EVERYBODY.
BACK.
THANKS, EVERYBODY.
A LOT OF MOVING PIECES THIS THANKS, EVERYBODY.
A LOT OF MOVING PIECES THIS WEEK ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE A LOT OF MOVING PIECES THIS WEEK ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE AS WELL.
WEEK ON THE INTERNATIONAL STAGE AS WELL.
THE PLAYERS, THE PRESIDENT OF AS WELL.
THE PLAYERS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. AND IRAN AND THE U.S.
THE PLAYERS, THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S. AND IRAN AND THE U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE AND HIS THE U.S. AND IRAN AND THE U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE AND HIS SECRETARY OF STATE AND HIS COUNTERPARTS FROM IRAN AND COUNTERPARTS FROM IRAN AND RUSSIA.
THE PRESIDENT SPOKE BY RUSSIA.
THE PRESIDENT SPOKE BY TELEPHONE TO HASSAN ROUHANI THE PRESIDENT SPOKE BY TELEPHONE TO HASSAN ROUHANI TODAY, THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN TELEPHONE TO HASSAN ROUHANI TODAY, THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN AND SAID AFTERWARDS HE SEES AN TODAY, THE PRESIDENT OF IRAN AND SAID AFTERWARDS HE SEES AN OPENING.
AND SAID AFTERWARDS HE SEES AN OPENING.
>> NOW, WE'RE MINDFUL OF ALL OPENING.
>> NOW, WE'RE MINDFUL OF ALL THE CHALLENGES AHEAD.
>> NOW, WE'RE MINDFUL OF ALL THE CHALLENGES AHEAD.
THE VERY FACT THAT THIS WAS THE THE CHALLENGES AHEAD.
THE VERY FACT THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST COMMUNICATION BETWEEN AN THE VERY FACT THAT THIS WAS THE FIRST COMMUNICATION BETWEEN AN AMERICAN AND IRANIAN PRESIDENT FIRST COMMUNICATION BETWEEN AN AMERICAN AND IRANIAN PRESIDENT SINCE 1979 UNDERSCORES THE DEEP AMERICAN AND IRANIAN PRESIDENT SINCE 1979 UNDERSCORES THE DEEP MISTRUST BETWEEN OUR COUNTRIES SINCE 1979 UNDERSCORES THE DEEP MISTRUST BETWEEN OUR COUNTRIES BUT IT ALSO INDICATES THE MISTRUST BETWEEN OUR COUNTRIES BUT IT ALSO INDICATES THE PROSPECT OF MOVING BEYOND THAT BUT IT ALSO INDICATES THE PROSPECT OF MOVING BEYOND THAT DIFFICULT HISTORY.
PROSPECT OF MOVING BEYOND THAT DIFFICULT HISTORY.
GWEN: THIS WAS QUITE THE DIFFICULT HISTORY.
GWEN: THIS WAS QUITE THE STRADDLING OF THE FENCE, NOT GWEN: THIS WAS QUITE THE STRADDLING OF THE FENCE, NOT JUST FROM THE U.S. STRADDLING OF THE FENCE, NOT JUST FROM THE U.S. >> BUT IT WAS AN AMAZING CHARM JUST FROM THE U.S. >> BUT IT WAS AN AMAZING CHARM OFFENSIVE FROM THE IRANIAN >> BUT IT WAS AN AMAZING CHARM OFFENSIVE FROM THE IRANIAN SIDE.
OFFENSIVE FROM THE IRANIAN SIDE.
HASSAN ROUHANI.
SIDE.
HASSAN ROUHANI.
WE'RE NOT USED TO AN IRANIAN HASSAN ROUHANI.
WE'RE NOT USED TO AN IRANIAN PRESIDENT, MUSLIM CLERIC, WE'RE NOT USED TO AN IRANIAN PRESIDENT, MUSLIM CLERIC, TREATING US THIS WAY.
PRESIDENT, MUSLIM CLERIC, TREATING US THIS WAY.
HE DID MORE MEDIA IN THE PAST TREATING US THIS WAY.
HE DID MORE MEDIA IN THE PAST WEEK THAN SOME PRESIDENTIAL HE DID MORE MEDIA IN THE PAST WEEK THAN SOME PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES -- WEEK THAN SOME PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES -- GWEN: I MET WITH HIM, YOU MET CANDIDATES -- GWEN: I MET WITH HIM, YOU MET WITH HIM.
GWEN: I MET WITH HIM, YOU MET WITH HIM.
>> HE DID EVERYTHING BUT WITH HIM.
>> HE DID EVERYTHING BUT FUNDRAISERS.
>> HE DID EVERYTHING BUT FUNDRAISERS.
TWITTER FEED.
FUNDRAISERS.
TWITTER FEED.
IT WAS QUITE AS STOPPISHING.
TWITTER FEED.
IT WAS QUITE AS STOPPISHING.
ALMOST OVERKILL.
IT WAS QUITE AS STOPPISHING.
ALMOST OVERKILL.
MAYBE A -- AS STOPPISHING.
ALMOST OVERKILL.
MAYBE A -- AS STOPPISHING.
ALMOST OVERKILL.
MAYBE A -- AS STOPPISHING.
ALMOST OVERKILL.
ON TUESDAY THERE WAS THE ALMOST OVERKILL.
ON TUESDAY THERE WAS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE ON TUESDAY THERE WAS THE QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE WOULD BE A HANDSHAKE BETWEEN QUESTION OF WHETHER THERE WOULD BE A HANDSHAKE BETWEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT WOULD BE A HANDSHAKE BETWEEN PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT ROUHANI.
PRESIDENT OBAMA AND PRESIDENT ROUHANI.
BY THE END OF THE WEEK THE ROUHANI.
BY THE END OF THE WEEK THE PHONE CALL WAS ARRANGED.
BY THE END OF THE WEEK THE PHONE CALL WAS ARRANGED.
THE IRANIANS SAID YEAH, LET'S PHONE CALL WAS ARRANGED.
THE IRANIANS SAID YEAH, LET'S DO A PHONE CALL.
THE IRANIANS SAID YEAH, LET'S DO A PHONE CALL.
PRESIDENT OBAMA ACTUALLY PLACED DO A PHONE CALL.
PRESIDENT OBAMA ACTUALLY PLACED THE CALL.
PRESIDENT OBAMA ACTUALLY PLACED THE CALL.
WHAT CHANGED IN THE COURSE OF THE CALL.
WHAT CHANGED IN THE COURSE OF THE WEEK?
WHAT CHANGED IN THE COURSE OF THE WEEK?
AND ROUHANI SAID AT A NEWS THE WEEK?
AND ROUHANI SAID AT A NEWS CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY, HE GAVE AND ROUHANI SAID AT A NEWS CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY, HE GAVE AN INTERESTING ANSWER.
CONFERENCE ON FRIDAY, HE GAVE AN INTERESTING ANSWER.
HE SAID ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE AN INTERESTING ANSWER.
HE SAID ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED WHILE I WAS HERE IS HE SAID ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE LEARNED WHILE I WAS HERE IS THAT THE ATTITUDE OF THE UNITED LEARNED WHILE I WAS HERE IS THAT THE ATTITUDE OF THE UNITED STATES AND THESE OTHER OUTSIDE THAT THE ATTITUDE OF THE UNITED STATES AND THESE OTHER OUTSIDE POWERS THAT WE, THE IRANIANS STATES AND THESE OTHER OUTSIDE POWERS THAT WE, THE IRANIANS HAVE BEEN SO CONCERNED ABOUT, POWERS THAT WE, THE IRANIANS HAVE BEEN SO CONCERNED ABOUT, IT'S CHANGED.
HAVE BEEN SO CONCERNED ABOUT, IT'S CHANGED.
IF YOU ASK PEOPLE IN THE OBAMA IT'S CHANGED.
IF YOU ASK PEOPLE IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, HAVE YOU IF YOU ASK PEOPLE IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, HAVE YOU CHANGED?
ADMINISTRATION, HAVE YOU CHANGED?
NO.
CHANGED?
NO.
THAT WAS A BIG SIGNAL TO NO.
THAT WAS A BIG SIGNAL TO ROUHANI, TO HIS BOSS AND HIS THAT WAS A BIG SIGNAL TO ROUHANI, TO HIS BOSS AND HIS PEERS IN THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT ROUHANI, TO HIS BOSS AND HIS PEERS IN THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT THAT I THINK THESE PEOPLE WHO PEERS IN THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT THAT I THINK THESE PEOPLE WHO WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE GREAT THAT I THINK THESE PEOPLE WHO WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE GREAT SATIN ARE PEOPLE WE CAN DO WE'VE BEEN CALLING THE GREAT SATIN ARE PEOPLE WE CAN DO BUSINESS WITH.
SATIN ARE PEOPLE WE CAN DO BUSINESS WITH.
GWEN: SANCTIONS HAVE BEEN IN BUSINESS WITH.
GWEN: SANCTIONS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE ALL THESE YEARS -- GWEN: SANCTIONS HAVE BEEN IN PLACE ALL THESE YEARS -- >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE BIG PLACE ALL THESE YEARS -- >> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE BIG CHANGE.
>> THAT IS ABSOLUTELY THE BIG CHANGE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE IRANIAN CHANGE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE IRANIAN ECONOMY, IT IS A MESS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE IRANIAN ECONOMY, IT IS A MESS.
THE MOST RECENT SET OF ECONOMY, IT IS A MESS.
THE MOST RECENT SET OF SANCTIONS -- TWO THINGS, THEY THE MOST RECENT SET OF SANCTIONS -- TWO THINGS, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE WORLD SANCTIONS -- TWO THINGS, THEY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE WORLD BANKING SYSTEM ANYMORE AND DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE WORLD BANKING SYSTEM ANYMORE AND THEIR OIL SALES HAVE BEEN GOING BANKING SYSTEM ANYMORE AND THEIR OIL SALES HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN AND THAT IS KILLING THEM.
THEIR OIL SALES HAVE BEEN GOING DOWN AND THAT IS KILLING THEM.
THEY NEED TO FIND A WAY OUT.
DOWN AND THAT IS KILLING THEM.
THEY NEED TO FIND A WAY OUT.
>> WHICH OF THESE GESTURES WERE THEY NEED TO FIND A WAY OUT.
>> WHICH OF THESE GESTURES WERE JUST GESTURES AND WHAT WAS >> WHICH OF THESE GESTURES WERE JUST GESTURES AND WHAT WAS SIGNIFICANT IN THIS?
JUST GESTURES AND WHAT WAS SIGNIFICANT IN THIS?
>> THAT'S THE $64 BILLION SIGNIFICANT IN THIS?
>> THAT'S THE $64 BILLION QUESTION.
>> THAT'S THE $64 BILLION QUESTION.
ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE NUCLEAR QUESTION.
ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE NUCLEAR QUESTION, NEITHER SIDE MOVED ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THE NUCLEAR QUESTION, NEITHER SIDE MOVED VERY FAR.
QUESTION, NEITHER SIDE MOVED VERY FAR.
THE IRANIANS SAID WE'RE STILL VERY FAR.
THE IRANIANS SAID WE'RE STILL GOING TO INSIST WE HAVE THE THE IRANIANS SAID WE'RE STILL GOING TO INSIST WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENRICH URANIUM.
GOING TO INSIST WE HAVE THE RIGHT TO ENRICH URANIUM.
THE UNITED STATES IS OTHER BIG RIGHT TO ENRICH URANIUM.
THE UNITED STATES IS OTHER BIG POWERS SAID, NO YOU HAVE TO THE UNITED STATES IS OTHER BIG POWERS SAID, NO YOU HAVE TO STOP ENRICHING URANIUM NOW.
POWERS SAID, NO YOU HAVE TO STOP ENRICHING URANIUM NOW.
WHAT DID THEY DO THAT GIVES YOU STOP ENRICHING URANIUM NOW.
WHAT DID THEY DO THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF OPTIMISM?
WHAT DID THEY DO THAT GIVES YOU A SENSE OF OPTIMISM?
I THINK THE BEST THING THE A SENSE OF OPTIMISM?
I THINK THE BEST THING THE IRANIANS SAID WAS TIME IS I THINK THE BEST THING THE IRANIANS SAID WAS TIME IS SHORT.
IRANIANS SAID WAS TIME IS SHORT.
WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE IN A SHORT.
WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE IN A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS.
WE WANT TO GET THIS DONE IN A YEAR OR SIX MONTHS.
WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
YEAR OR SIX MONTHS.
WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
BECAUSE IN THE WEST EVERYBODY WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?
BECAUSE IN THE WEST EVERYBODY HAS ALWAYS WORRIED, AND ISRAEL BECAUSE IN THE WEST EVERYBODY HAS ALWAYS WORRIED, AND ISRAEL HAS ALWAYS WORRIED THAT THE HAS ALWAYS WORRIED, AND ISRAEL HAS ALWAYS WORRIED THAT THE IRANIANS ARE PLAYING US FOR HAS ALWAYS WORRIED THAT THE IRANIANS ARE PLAYING US FOR TIME.
IRANIANS ARE PLAYING US FOR TIME.
THEY WANT TO MAKE THE CLOCK GO TIME.
THEY WANT TO MAKE THE CLOCK GO SLOWER SO THEY CAN KEEP THEY WANT TO MAKE THE CLOCK GO SLOWER SO THEY CAN KEEP ENRICHING URANIUM -- IF THEY SLOWER SO THEY CAN KEEP ENRICHING URANIUM -- IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE CLOCK GO FAST, ENRICHING URANIUM -- IF THEY WANT TO MAKE THE CLOCK GO FAST, THAT'S A CHANGE.
WANT TO MAKE THE CLOCK GO FAST, THAT'S A CHANGE.
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT'S A CHANGE.
>> THE PRESIDENT SAID EVERYTHING HAD TO BE >> THE PRESIDENT SAID EVERYTHING HAD TO BE VERIFIABLE.
EVERYTHING HAD TO BE VERIFIABLE.
HOW DO WE VERIFY AND HOW DO WE VERIFIABLE.
HOW DO WE VERIFY AND HOW DO WE TRUST, NOT TO USE REAGAN'S HOW DO WE VERIFY AND HOW DO WE TRUST, NOT TO USE REAGAN'S PHRASE BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT?
TRUST, NOT TO USE REAGAN'S PHRASE BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT?
AND IF WE CAN'T TRUST THEM PHRASE BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT?
AND IF WE CAN'T TRUST THEM DOESN'T THIS BECOME A POLITICAL AND IF WE CAN'T TRUST THEM DOESN'T THIS BECOME A POLITICAL PROBLEM FOR THE PRESIDENT?
DOESN'T THIS BECOME A POLITICAL PROBLEM FOR THE PRESIDENT?
>> TRUST IS THE RIGHT WORLD.
PROBLEM FOR THE PRESIDENT?
>> TRUST IS THE RIGHT WORLD.
YOU'LL HAVE TO BUILD IT OVER >> TRUST IS THE RIGHT WORLD.
YOU'LL HAVE TO BUILD IT OVER TIME.
YOU'LL HAVE TO BUILD IT OVER TIME.
YOU VERIFY IT IN THE LONG RUN TIME.
YOU VERIFY IT IN THE LONG RUN BY HAVING INSPECTORS AND YOU VERIFY IT IN THE LONG RUN BY HAVING INSPECTORS AND CAMERAS AND SENSORS.
BY HAVING INSPECTORS AND CAMERAS AND SENSORS.
IN THE SHORT RUN, THERE'S GOING CAMERAS AND SENSORS.
IN THE SHORT RUN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEETING IN GENEVA IN IN THE SHORT RUN, THERE'S GOING TO BE A MEETING IN GENEVA IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER AND THE TO BE A MEETING IN GENEVA IN THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER AND THE IRANIANS HAVE SAID WE'RE GOING THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER AND THE IRANIANS HAVE SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONCRETE PROPOSAL IRANIANS HAVE SAID WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONCRETE PROPOSAL THEN SO THERE WILL BE A PRETTY TO HAVE A CONCRETE PROPOSAL THEN SO THERE WILL BE A PRETTY EARLY TEST OF WHETHER THERE'S THEN SO THERE WILL BE A PRETTY EARLY TEST OF WHETHER THERE'S ANY SUBSTANCE ABOUT THE -- EARLY TEST OF WHETHER THERE'S ANY SUBSTANCE ABOUT THE -- BEHIND THE CHARM.
ANY SUBSTANCE ABOUT THE -- BEHIND THE CHARM.
>> WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL?
BEHIND THE CHARM.
>> WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL?
NETANYAHU SPOKE THIS WEEK.
>> WHAT ABOUT ISRAEL?
NETANYAHU SPOKE THIS WEEK.
IT SOUNDED LIKE HIS WATCH IS NETANYAHU SPOKE THIS WEEK.
IT SOUNDED LIKE HIS WATCH IS RUNNING A LOT FASTER.
IT SOUNDED LIKE HIS WATCH IS RUNNING A LOT FASTER.
>> HIS WATCH IS STILL RUNNING RUNNING A LOT FASTER.
>> HIS WATCH IS STILL RUNNING AT ITS ISRAELI PACE.
>> HIS WATCH IS STILL RUNNING AT ITS ISRAELI PACE.
YES, CERTAINLY THE NETANYAHU AT ITS ISRAELI PACE.
YES, CERTAINLY THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT ARE PRETTY FRANTIC YES, CERTAINLY THE NETANYAHU GOVERNMENT ARE PRETTY FRANTIC BECAUSE THEY SEE ALL OF THE GOVERNMENT ARE PRETTY FRANTIC BECAUSE THEY SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE BECAUSE THEY SEE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE IRANIANS COULD BE PULLING THE DIFFERENT WAYS THAT THE IRANIANS COULD BE PULLING THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES AND THAT IRANIANS COULD BE PULLING THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES AND THAT LEADS US TO WHERE A LOT OF THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES AND THAT LEADS US TO WHERE A LOT OF THE POLITICAL PROBLEM ALREADY -- LEADS US TO WHERE A LOT OF THE POLITICAL PROBLEM ALREADY -- WILL BE IN THE UNITED STATES.
POLITICAL PROBLEM ALREADY -- WILL BE IN THE UNITED STATES.
I MENTIONED ROUHANI HAS WILL BE IN THE UNITED STATES.
I MENTIONED ROUHANI HAS POLITICAL PROBLEMS AT HOME IN I MENTIONED ROUHANI HAS POLITICAL PROBLEMS AT HOME IN TEHRAN.
POLITICAL PROBLEMS AT HOME IN TEHRAN.
YOU WANT TO SELL THIS TO TEHRAN.
YOU WANT TO SELL THIS TO CONGRESS, IN ISRAEL.
YOU WANT TO SELL THIS TO CONGRESS, IN ISRAEL.
A LOT OF SANCTIONS WERE IMPOSED CONGRESS, IN ISRAEL.
A LOT OF SANCTIONS WERE IMPOSED BY CONGRESS.
A LOT OF SANCTIONS WERE IMPOSED BY CONGRESS.
CONGRESS GETS A VOTE IN TAKING BY CONGRESS.
CONGRESS GETS A VOTE IN TAKING THEM OFF AND CONGRESS, AS WE CONGRESS GETS A VOTE IN TAKING THEM OFF AND CONGRESS, AS WE KNOW, MOVES VERY QUICKLY AND THEM OFF AND CONGRESS, AS WE KNOW, MOVES VERY QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
KNOW, MOVES VERY QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY.
GWEN: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BIG, EFFICIENTLY.
GWEN: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BIG, HISTORIC PHONE CALL.
GWEN: WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BIG, HISTORIC PHONE CALL.
WHAT WAS THAT, DO E-- DO YOU HISTORIC PHONE CALL.
WHAT WAS THAT, DO E-- DO YOU KNOW?
WHAT WAS THAT, DO E-- DO YOU KNOW?
>> NOT A WHOLE LOT WAS SAID.
KNOW?
>> NOT A WHOLE LOT WAS SAID.
THEY ONLY TALKED FOR 15 >> NOT A WHOLE LOT WAS SAID.
THEY ONLY TALKED FOR 15 MINUTES.
THEY ONLY TALKED FOR 15 MINUTES.
THERE WAS INTERPRETATION.
MINUTES.
THERE WAS INTERPRETATION.
WE'RE TOLD THEY BASICALLY SAID THERE WAS INTERPRETATION.
WE'RE TOLD THEY BASICALLY SAID TO EACH OTHER YEAH, LET'S DO WE'RE TOLD THEY BASICALLY SAID TO EACH OTHER YEAH, LET'S DO THIS.
TO EACH OTHER YEAH, LET'S DO THIS.
WE HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN EACH THIS.
WE HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN EACH OTHER.
WE HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE IN EACH OTHER.
THEY BOTH WORKED HARD ON THE AT OTHER.
THEY BOTH WORKED HARD ON THE AT FEERKS AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT?
THEY BOTH WORKED HARD ON THE AT FEERKS AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT?
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE CALL FEERKS AND HOW DO WE KNOW THAT?
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE CALL PRESIDENT ROUHANI SAID IN BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE CALL PRESIDENT ROUHANI SAID IN ENGLISH HAVE A NICE DAY AND PRESIDENT ROUHANI SAID IN ENGLISH HAVE A NICE DAY AND PRESIDENT OBAMA CAILED IN FARSI ENGLISH HAVE A NICE DAY AND PRESIDENT OBAMA CAILED IN FARSI "GOD PROTECT YOU."
PRESIDENT OBAMA CAILED IN FARSI "GOD PROTECT YOU."
GWEN: OH, MY GOODNESS.
"GOD PROTECT YOU."
GWEN: OH, MY GOODNESS.
THAT'S HUGE.
GWEN: OH, MY GOODNESS.
THAT'S HUGE.
AND THEN HE TWEETED IT ALL.
THAT'S HUGE.
AND THEN HE TWEETED IT ALL.
LET'S MOVE ON.
AND THEN HE TWEETED IT ALL.
LET'S MOVE ON.
WE JUST HEARD A FEW MINUTES AGO LET'S MOVE ON.
WE JUST HEARD A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL WE JUST HEARD A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL GAVE THE ADMINISTRATION ANOTHER THAT THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL GAVE THE ADMINISTRATION ANOTHER CLAIM TO A PARTIAL FOREIGN GAVE THE ADMINISTRATION ANOTHER CLAIM TO A PARTIAL FOREIGN POLICY VICTORY THIS WEEK, CLAIM TO A PARTIAL FOREIGN POLICY VICTORY THIS WEEK, VOTING UNANIMOUSLY ON A POLICY VICTORY THIS WEEK, VOTING UNANIMOUSLY ON A RESOLUTION TO START CHECKING ON VOTING UNANIMOUSLY ON A RESOLUTION TO START CHECKING ON SYRIANS CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
RESOLUTION TO START CHECKING ON SYRIANS CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
THE UNITED NATIONS FINALLY TOOK SYRIANS CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
THE UNITED NATIONS FINALLY TOOK THESE STEPS TO END THE THE UNITED NATIONS FINALLY TOOK THESE STEPS TO END THE STOCKPILE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
THESE STEPS TO END THE STOCKPILE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
>> REALISTICALLY IT'S DOUBTFUL STOCKPILE OF CHEMICAL WEAPONS.
>> REALISTICALLY IT'S DOUBTFUL WE WOULD HAVE ARRIVED AT THIS >> REALISTICALLY IT'S DOUBTFUL WE WOULD HAVE ARRIVED AT THIS POINT IF NOT NOR A CREDIBLE WE WOULD HAVE ARRIVED AT THIS POINT IF NOT NOR A CREDIBLE THREAT OF U.S. ACTION IN THE POINT IF NOT NOR A CREDIBLE THREAT OF U.S. ACTION IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE HORRIFIC THREAT OF U.S. ACTION IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE HORRIFIC TRAGEDY THAT TOOK PLACE ON AFTERMATH OF THE HORRIFIC TRAGEDY THAT TOOK PLACE ON AUGUST 21ST WHERE CHEMICAL TRAGEDY THAT TOOK PLACE ON AUGUST 21ST WHERE CHEMICAL WEAPONS KILLED OVER 1,000 AUGUST 21ST WHERE CHEMICAL WEAPONS KILLED OVER 1,000 PEOPLE, INCLUDING MORE THAN 400 WEAPONS KILLED OVER 1,000 PEOPLE, INCLUDING MORE THAN 400 CHILDREN.
PEOPLE, INCLUDING MORE THAN 400 CHILDREN.
GWEN: LESS THAN A MONTH AGO WE CHILDREN.
GWEN: LESS THAN A MONTH AGO WE SEEMED TO BE ON THE VERGE OF GWEN: LESS THAN A MONTH AGO WE SEEMED TO BE ON THE VERGE OF MILITARY ACTION, WAR.
SEEMED TO BE ON THE VERGE OF MILITARY ACTION, WAR.
WHAT HAPPENED, KIM?
MILITARY ACTION, WAR.
WHAT HAPPENED, KIM?
>> SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN WHAT HAPPENED, KIM?
>> SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY MISSPOKE OR -- >> SECRETARY OF STATE JOHN KERRY MISSPOKE OR -- GWEN: WHATEVER IT WAS HE DID.
KERRY MISSPOKE OR -- GWEN: WHATEVER IT WAS HE DID.
>> WHATEVER IT WAS HE DID.
GWEN: WHATEVER IT WAS HE DID.
>> WHATEVER IT WAS HE DID.
ANSWERED A QUESTION AT A PRESS >> WHATEVER IT WAS HE DID.
ANSWERED A QUESTION AT A PRESS DONCHES WHEN HE WAS ASKED -- ANSWERED A QUESTION AT A PRESS DONCHES WHEN HE WAS ASKED -- CONFERENCE COSS -- CONFERENCE DONCHES WHEN HE WAS ASKED -- CONFERENCE COSS -- CONFERENCE WHEN HE WAS ASKED WHAT COULD CONFERENCE COSS -- CONFERENCE WHEN HE WAS ASKED WHAT COULD HEAD OFF A U.S. STRIKE.
WHEN HE WAS ASKED WHAT COULD HEAD OFF A U.S. STRIKE.
HE SAID THEY COULD DISARM.
HEAD OFF A U.S. STRIKE.
HE SAID THEY COULD DISARM.
WITHIN HOURS RUSSIAN OFFICIALS HE SAID THEY COULD DISARM.
WITHIN HOURS RUSSIAN OFFICIALS RESPONDED SAYING I THINK WE CAN WITHIN HOURS RUSSIAN OFFICIALS RESPONDED SAYING I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
RESPONDED SAYING I THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
LATER SYRIANS SAID YES.
MAKE THAT HAPPEN.
LATER SYRIANS SAID YES.
FAST FORWARD, THE U.N.
THIS LATER SYRIANS SAID YES.
FAST FORWARD, THE U.N.
THIS WEEK, THERE WAS A LOT OF FAST FORWARD, THE U.N.
THIS WEEK, THERE WAS A LOT OF POLITICKING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WEEK, THERE WAS A LOT OF POLITICKING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND RUSSIA AND THE U.S.
CAME TO POLITICKING BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND RUSSIA AND THE U.S.
CAME TO AN AGREEMENT.
AND RUSSIA AND THE U.S.
CAME TO AN AGREEMENT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PEACE IN IT AN AGREEMENT.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PEACE IN IT THAT THE U.S.
WANTED.
IT DOESN'T HAVE THE PEACE IN IT THAT THE U.S.
WANTED.
THIS IMPOSES -- SORRY, THIS THAT THE U.S.
WANTED.
THIS IMPOSES -- SORRY, THIS REQUIRES SYRIA TO DISARM ITS THIS IMPOSES -- SORRY, THIS REQUIRES SYRIA TO DISARM ITS CHEMICAL WEAPONS, TO ALLOW REQUIRES SYRIA TO DISARM ITS CHEMICAL WEAPONS, TO ALLOW INSPECTORS UNFETTERED ACCESS CHEMICAL WEAPONS, TO ALLOW INSPECTORS UNFETTERED ACCESS BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE EITHER INSPECTORS UNFETTERED ACCESS BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE EITHER SANCTIONS OR MILITARY ACTION AS BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE EITHER SANCTIONS OR MILITARY ACTION AS A PUNITIVE RESPONSE IF SYRIA -- SANCTIONS OR MILITARY ACTION AS A PUNITIVE RESPONSE IF SYRIA -- GWEN: BUT THE PRESIDENT A PUNITIVE RESPONSE IF SYRIA -- GWEN: BUT THE PRESIDENT SUGGESTED THAT THAT WAS THE GWEN: BUT THE PRESIDENT SUGGESTED THAT THAT WAS THE PROMISE OF IT OR THE THREAT OF SUGGESTED THAT THAT WAS THE PROMISE OF IT OR THE THREAT OF IT WHICH EVEN GOT THEM THIS PROMISE OF IT OR THE THREAT OF IT WHICH EVEN GOT THEM THIS FAR.
IT WHICH EVEN GOT THEM THIS FAR.
IS HE RIGHT?
FAR.
IS HE RIGHT?
>> HE'S RIGHT.
IS HE RIGHT?
>> HE'S RIGHT.
ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE >> HE'S RIGHT.
ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE OFFICIALS THAT YOU SPEAK TO, ACCORDING TO SOME OF THE OFFICIALS THAT YOU SPEAK TO, SYRIA KNEW THAT ITS BACK WAS OFFICIALS THAT YOU SPEAK TO, SYRIA KNEW THAT ITS BACK WAS AGAINST THE WALL AND IT WANTED SYRIA KNEW THAT ITS BACK WAS AGAINST THE WALL AND IT WANTED A WAY OUT.
AGAINST THE WALL AND IT WANTED A WAY OUT.
RUSSIA WANTED A WAY TO A WAY OUT.
RUSSIA WANTED A WAY TO ESTABLISH THAT IT HAS MORE RUSSIA WANTED A WAY TO ESTABLISH THAT IT HAS MORE INFLUENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST ESTABLISH THAT IT HAS MORE INFLUENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW THAN THE U.S.
DOES INFLUENCE IN THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW THAN THE U.S.
DOES AND SO THEY SAW AN OPENING FOR RIGHT NOW THAN THE U.S.
DOES AND SO THEY SAW AN OPENING FOR A DEAL.
AND SO THEY SAW AN OPENING FOR A DEAL.
BUT IF YOU STEP BACK FROM ALL A DEAL.
BUT IF YOU STEP BACK FROM ALL OF THIS, YES, TALK TO SOME BUT IF YOU STEP BACK FROM ALL OF THIS, YES, TALK TO SOME REPUBLICANS ON THE HILL, THEY OF THIS, YES, TALK TO SOME REPUBLICANS ON THE HILL, THEY SAY THIS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT REPUBLICANS ON THE HILL, THEY SAY THIS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
SAY THIS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
THEY GAVE RUSSIA THE HIGH FOR THE WHITE HOUSE.
THEY GAVE RUSSIA THE HIGH GROUND ON THIS.
THEY GAVE RUSSIA THE HIGH GROUND ON THIS.
BIG PICTURE, I CAN REMEMBER GROUND ON THIS.
BIG PICTURE, I CAN REMEMBER SITTING IN BRIEFINGS WHERE BIG PICTURE, I CAN REMEMBER SITTING IN BRIEFINGS WHERE PENTAGON OFFICIALS WERE TRYING SITTING IN BRIEFINGS WHERE PENTAGON OFFICIALS WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THERE ARE 50 OR PENTAGON OFFICIALS WERE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, THERE ARE 50 OR 60 WEAPON SITES.
TO FIGURE OUT, THERE ARE 50 OR 60 WEAPON SITES.
WE KNOW THAT THE AL QAEDA GROUP 60 WEAPON SITES.
WE KNOW THAT THE AL QAEDA GROUP WANTS TO CAPTURE THEM.
WE KNOW THAT THE AL QAEDA GROUP WANTS TO CAPTURE THEM.
HOW CAN WE GET THEM UNDER LOCK WANTS TO CAPTURE THEM.
HOW CAN WE GET THEM UNDER LOCK AND KEY?
HOW CAN WE GET THEM UNDER LOCK AND KEY?
THIS DEAL COULD DO THAT WITHOUT AND KEY?
THIS DEAL COULD DO THAT WITHOUT PUTTING ANY U.S. BOOTS ON THE THIS DEAL COULD DO THAT WITHOUT PUTTING ANY U.S. BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
PUTTING ANY U.S. BOOTS ON THE GROUND.
COULD IT ALSO RESULT IN MONTHS GROUND.
COULD IT ALSO RESULT IN MONTHS OF DELAYS?
COULD IT ALSO RESULT IN MONTHS OF DELAYS?
PERHAPS MORE CHEMICAL STRIKES?
OF DELAYS?
PERHAPS MORE CHEMICAL STRIKES?
PROGRAMS.
PERHAPS MORE CHEMICAL STRIKES?
PROGRAMS.
>> YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS.
PROGRAMS.
>> YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS.
IS IT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF >> YOU GUYS ARE THE EXPERTS.
IS IT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THIS THAT THE UNITED STATES IS IT YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THIS THAT THE UNITED STATES STILL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO USE THIS THAT THE UNITED STATES STILL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO USE FORCE IF THIS SHOULD ALL FALL STILL RESERVES THE RIGHT TO USE FORCE IF THIS SHOULD ALL FALL APART?
FORCE IF THIS SHOULD ALL FALL APART?
>> YES, AND THERE'S ALSO THE APART?
>> YES, AND THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE >> YES, AND THERE'S ALSO THE OPTION THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL FOR A OPTION THAT THEY CAN GO TO THE U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL FOR A SECOND RESOLUTION TO PUNISH U.N. SECURITY COUNCIL FOR A SECOND RESOLUTION TO PUNISH SYRIA.
SECOND RESOLUTION TO PUNISH SYRIA.
>> SO THEY COULD DO IT YOU KNOW SYRIA.
>> SO THEY COULD DO IT YOU KNOW LATERALLY OR -- >> SO THEY COULD DO IT YOU KNOW LATERALLY OR -- >> OR THROUGH U.N. ACTION.
LATERALLY OR -- >> OR THROUGH U.N. ACTION.
IT COULD COME ALSO IN THE FORM >> OR THROUGH U.N. ACTION.
IT COULD COME ALSO IN THE FORM OF SANCTIONS AT THE U.N.
IT COULD COME ALSO IN THE FORM OF SANCTIONS AT THE U.N. >> AS A PRACKS TALL MATTER, OF SANCTIONS AT THE U.N. >> AS A PRACKS TALL MATTER, DOES IT, HAVING GONE THROUGH >> AS A PRACKS TALL MATTER, DOES IT, HAVING GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MAKE IT HARDER DOES IT, HAVING GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION TO THIS PROCESS, MAKE IT HARDER FOR THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION TO SAY, OH, NEVER MIND THE FOR THE U.S. ADMINISTRATION TO SAY, OH, NEVER MIND THE SECURITY COUNCIL.
SAY, OH, NEVER MIND THE SECURITY COUNCIL.
WE'VE NOW DECIDED TO GO IT SECURITY COUNCIL.
WE'VE NOW DECIDED TO GO IT ALONE?
WE'VE NOW DECIDED TO GO IT ALONE?
>> IT WOULD BE PRETTY ALONE?
>> IT WOULD BE PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY WHEN THEY'VE >> IT WOULD BE PRETTY EXTRAORDINARY WHEN THEY'VE SIGNALED TO THE U.S. AND THE EXTRAORDINARY WHEN THEY'VE SIGNALED TO THE U.S. AND THE WORLD THAT DOING A PUNITIVE SIGNALED TO THE U.S. AND THE WORLD THAT DOING A PUNITIVE STRIKE AGAINST SYRIA IS THE WORLD THAT DOING A PUNITIVE STRIKE AGAINST SYRIA IS THE LAST THINGS IN TERMS OF STRIKE AGAINST SYRIA IS THE LAST THINGS IN TERMS OF EFFECTIVENESS.
LAST THINGS IN TERMS OF EFFECTIVENESS.
THEY INDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE EFFECTIVENESS.
THEY INDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE SHORT AND SHARP, WOULD HIT SOME THEY INDICATED THAT IT WOULD BE SHORT AND SHARP, WOULD HIT SOME 'S COMMAND N REGIME SHORT AND SHARP, WOULD HIT SOME 'S COMMAND N REGIME AND CONTROL CENTERS AND SOME OF 'S COMMAND N REGIME AND CONTROL CENTERS AND SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THEY USE TO AND CONTROL CENTERS AND SOME OF THE AREAS THAT THEY USE TO DEVELOP THESE CHEMICAL WEAPONS THE AREAS THAT THEY USE TO DEVELOP THESE CHEMICAL WEAPONS T DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PLAN DEVELOP THESE CHEMICAL WEAPONS T DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PLAN DWHROONLED AND THAT'S WHAT I T DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A PLAN DWHROONLED AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS HEARING ON THE HILL.
DWHROONLED AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS HEARING ON THE HILL.
THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH IT WAS WAS HEARING ON THE HILL.
THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH IT WAS WHAT DO YOU DO THEN?
THEIR FRUSTRATION WITH IT WAS WHAT DO YOU DO THEN?
NOW RUSSIA BEARS THE WHAT DO YOU DO THEN?
NOW RUSSIA BEARS THE RESPONSIBILITY IF THIS FALLS NOW RUSSIA BEARS THE RESPONSIBILITY IF THIS FALLS OVER.
RESPONSIBILITY IF THIS FALLS OVER.
GWEN: IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE OVER.
GWEN: IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS IF THEY CAN TRUST GWEN: IT'S INTERESTING BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS IF THEY CAN TRUST RUSSIA EITHER.
NOBODY KNOWS IF THEY CAN TRUST RUSSIA EITHER.
ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE RUSSIA EITHER.
ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT ARE ABOUT ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT ARE ABOUT COMPROMISE THAT NOBODY NOSE -- HAVING TONIGHT ARE ABOUT COMPROMISE THAT NOBODY NOSE -- >> AND TRUST.
COMPROMISE THAT NOBODY NOSE -- >> AND TRUST.
GWEN: THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
>> AND TRUST.
GWEN: THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
WELCOME TO "WASHINGTON WEEK," GWEN: THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.
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