MONDAY TO FRIDAY.

SO I THINK WE GET A DEEP DIVE SO I THINK WE GET A DEEP DIVE INTO SOME SPECIFIC TOPICS THAT INTO SOME SPECIFIC TOPICS THAT PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN THINKING PEOPLE HAVEN'T BEEN THINKING ABOUT.

ABOUT.

AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT REALLY AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THAT REALLY PICKS UP A LOT OF TRACTION PICKS UP A LOT OF TRACTION ONLINE.

ONLINE.

>> THAT'S GREAT.

>> THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

NOW, ONCE AGAIN, FOR YOU, THE NOW, ONCE AGAIN, FOR YOU, THE PHONE NUMBER IS ON YOUR SCREEN.

PHONE NUMBER IS ON YOUR SCREEN.

PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR PLEASE GET IN TOUCH WITH YOUR MOST GENEROUS CONTRIBUTION RIGHT MOST GENEROUS CONTRIBUTION RIGHT GWEN: NOW THAT THE LEFTOVERS ARE OVER, AND THE FOOTBALL HAS BEEN PLAYED, WE BRING YOUR ARE OVER, AND THE FOOTBALL HAS BEEN PLAYED, WE BRING YOUR DINNER TABLE POLITICAL BEEN PLAYED, WE BRING YOUR DINNER TABLE POLITICAL CONVERSATION TO OUR TABLE.

DINNER TABLE POLITICAL CONVERSATION TO OUR TABLE.

TONIGHT ON THIS SPECIAL EDITION CONVERSATION TO OUR TABLE.

TONIGHT ON THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF "WASHINGTON WEEK."

TONIGHT ON THIS SPECIAL EDITION OF "WASHINGTON WEEK."

WHAT WERE THE HOT TOPICS AT OF "WASHINGTON WEEK."

WHAT WERE THE HOT TOPICS AT YOUR HOUSE?

WHAT WERE THE HOT TOPICS AT YOUR HOUSE?

HEALTH CARE?

YOUR HOUSE?

HEALTH CARE?

THE ECONOMY?

HEALTH CARE?

THE ECONOMY?

WAR?

THE ECONOMY?

WAR?

PEACE?

WAR?

PEACE?

OR MAYBE WASHINGTON PEACE?

OR MAYBE WASHINGTON DYSFUNCTION?

OR MAYBE WASHINGTON DYSFUNCTION?

>> WHY IS THERE NO DEBT LIMIT?

DYSFUNCTION?

>> WHY IS THERE NO DEBT LIMIT?

>> WHY ARE YOU MORE CONCERNED >> WHY IS THERE NO DEBT LIMIT?

>> WHY ARE YOU MORE CONCERNED WITH WHAT YOUR PARTY IS GOING >> WHY ARE YOU MORE CONCERNED WITH WHAT YOUR PARTY IS GOING TO DO IN THE ELECTIONS RATHER WITH WHAT YOUR PARTY IS GOING TO DO IN THE ELECTIONS RATHER THAN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HELP TO DO IN THE ELECTIONS RATHER THAN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

THAN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

>> I'M WONDERING WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

>> I'M WONDERING WHAT >> I'M WONDERING WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'LL BE DOING TO SPECIFICALLY YOU'LL BE DOING TO PREVENT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?

PREVENT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?

GWEN: TONIGHT WE ANSWERED YOUR SHUTDOWN?

GWEN: TONIGHT WE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS FROM AROUND THE GWEN: TONIGHT WE ANSWERED YOUR QUESTIONS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH PETER BAKER OF QUESTIONS FROM AROUND THE COUNTRY WITH PETER BAKER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES."

COUNTRY WITH PETER BAKER OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES."

MICHAEL DUFFY OF "TIME" "THE NEW YORK TIMES."

MICHAEL DUFFY OF "TIME" MAGAZINE.

MICHAEL DUFFY OF "TIME" MAGAZINE.

KAREN TUMULTY OF "THE MAGAZINE.

KAREN TUMULTY OF "THE WASHINGTON POST."

KAREN TUMULTY OF "THE WASHINGTON POST."

AND JEFF ZELENY OF AVENS NEWS.

WASHINGTON POST."

AND JEFF ZELENY OF AVENS NEWS.

-- ABC NEWS.

AND JEFF ZELENY OF AVENS NEWS.

-- ABC NEWS.

>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND -- ABC NEWS.

>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS >> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.

ANALYSIS, COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.

FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IT HAPPENS.

FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN FROM OUR NATION'S CAPITAL, THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN IFILL."

ONCE AGAIN, FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.

GWEN: BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.

GWEN: BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING AT YOU ALL YEAR LONG, GWEN: BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN TALKING AT YOU ALL YEAR LONG, WE THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE TALKING AT YOU ALL YEAR LONG, WE THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE THANKFUL THIS WEEK TO HAVE US WE THOUGHT YOU MIGHT BE THANKFUL THIS WEEK TO HAVE US TALK WITH YOU.

THANKFUL THIS WEEK TO HAVE US TALK WITH YOU.

ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE ON TALK WITH YOU.

ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE ON YOUR MINDS.

ABOUT THE THINGS THAT ARE ON YOUR MINDS.

SO IF YOU'RE ALL TALKED OUT YOUR MINDS.

SO IF YOU'RE ALL TALKED OUT FROM THANKSGIVING DINNER TABLE SO IF YOU'RE ALL TALKED OUT FROM THANKSGIVING DINNER TABLE DEBATES, SIT BACK AND ENJOY FROM THANKSGIVING DINNER TABLE DEBATES, SIT BACK AND ENJOY OURS.

DEBATES, SIT BACK AND ENJOY OURS.

I WANT TO START BY PUTTING ONE OURS.

I WANT TO START BY PUTTING ONE OF OUR REGULARS ON THE SPOT.

I WANT TO START BY PUTTING ONE OF OUR REGULARS ON THE SPOT.

THE WHITE HOUSE HAS HAD QUITE A OF OUR REGULARS ON THE SPOT.

THE WHITE HOUSE HAS HAD QUITE A YEAR, FROM FOREIGN POLICY THE WHITE HOUSE HAS HAD QUITE A YEAR, FROM FOREIGN POLICY SHOWDOWNS TO FISCAL CRISES TO YEAR, FROM FOREIGN POLICY SHOWDOWNS TO FISCAL CRISES TO HEALTH CARE DEBAFFLES.

SHOWDOWNS TO FISCAL CRISES TO HEALTH CARE DEBAFFLES.

AND PETER BAKER SAYS HE SAW IT HEALTH CARE DEBAFFLES.

AND PETER BAKER SAYS HE SAW IT COMING LAST WINTER.

AND PETER BAKER SAYS HE SAW IT COMING LAST WINTER.

CALL IT SECOND TERMITIS.

COMING LAST WINTER.

CALL IT SECOND TERMITIS.

>> BY HIS OWN CALCULATION HE'S CALL IT SECOND TERMITIS.

>> BY HIS OWN CALCULATION HE'S GOT EIGHT MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, 16 >> BY HIS OWN CALCULATION HE'S GOT EIGHT MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, 16 MONTHS AT MOST TO MAKE HIS GOT EIGHT MONTHS, 12 MONTHS, 16 MONTHS AT MOST TO MAKE HIS MARK.

MONTHS AT MOST TO MAKE HIS MARK.

SO HE HAS TO COME OUT OF THE MARK.

SO HE HAS TO COME OUT OF THE BOX FAST.

SO HE HAS TO COME OUT OF THE BOX FAST.

AND ENERGETIC.

BOX FAST.

AND ENERGETIC.

AND HE'S COMING OUT ON GUNS, AND ENERGETIC.

AND HE'S COMING OUT ON GUNS, IMMIGRATION, FISCAL POLICY.

AND HE'S COMING OUT ON GUNS, IMMIGRATION, FISCAL POLICY.

AND ENERGY.

IMMIGRATION, FISCAL POLICY.

AND ENERGY.

AND THAT'S -- HE NEEDS TO PUSH AND ENERGY.

AND THAT'S -- HE NEEDS TO PUSH THE OTHER SIDE INTO DEFERRING AND THAT'S -- HE NEEDS TO PUSH THE OTHER SIDE INTO DEFERRING TO HIS JUDGMENT WHILE HE HAS THE OTHER SIDE INTO DEFERRING TO HIS JUDGMENT WHILE HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.

TO HIS JUDGMENT WHILE HE HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.

GWEN: HOW DID THAT WORK FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT.

GWEN: HOW DID THAT WORK FOR HIM, PETER?

GWEN: HOW DID THAT WORK FOR HIM, PETER?

>> WELL, IT'S NOW OF COURSE 10 HIM, PETER?

>> WELL, IT'S NOW OF COURSE 10 MONTHS LATER.

>> WELL, IT'S NOW OF COURSE 10 MONTHS LATER.

AND I THINK NONE OF THE THINGS MONTHS LATER.

AND I THINK NONE OF THE THINGS WE MENTIONED THERE HAS BEEN AND I THINK NONE OF THE THINGS WE MENTIONED THERE HAS BEEN SIGNED INTO LAW.

WE MENTIONED THERE HAS BEEN SIGNED INTO LAW.

GWEN: NOT IMMIGRATION.

SIGNED INTO LAW.

GWEN: NOT IMMIGRATION.

>> NOT GUNS.

GWEN: NOT IMMIGRATION.

>> NOT GUNS.

NOT IMMIGRATION.

>> NOT GUNS.

NOT IMMIGRATION.

NOT -- MOVED SOME ON ENERGY IN NOT IMMIGRATION.

NOT -- MOVED SOME ON ENERGY IN TERMS OF EXECUTIVE ACTION.

NOT -- MOVED SOME ON ENERGY IN TERMS OF EXECUTIVE ACTION.

AND THEY'LL ARGUE ON GUNS.

TERMS OF EXECUTIVE ACTION.

AND THEY'LL ARGUE ON GUNS.

THEY DID SOME EXECUTIVE ACTION AND THEY'LL ARGUE ON GUNS.

THEY DID SOME EXECUTIVE ACTION AS WELL.

THEY DID SOME EXECUTIVE ACTION AS WELL.

BUT NOTHING OF THE THINGS THEY AS WELL.

BUT NOTHING OF THE THINGS THEY SENT TO THE HILL.

BUT NOTHING OF THE THINGS THEY SENT TO THE HILL.

JOBS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I SENT TO THE HILL.

JOBS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK, THE PRESIDENT TALKED JOBS AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, I THINK, THE PRESIDENT TALKED DURING THE ELECTION LAST YEAR THINK, THE PRESIDENT TALKED DURING THE ELECTION LAST YEAR ABOUT THE FEVER BREAKING.

DURING THE ELECTION LAST YEAR ABOUT THE FEVER BREAKING.

THIS IDEA THAT AFTER HE WAS ABOUT THE FEVER BREAKING.

THIS IDEA THAT AFTER HE WAS CENTIVE ON THE PART OF THE T THIS IDEA THAT AFTER HE WAS CENTIVE ON THE PART OF THE T OPPOSITION TO BE SO OPPOSED TO CENTIVE ON THE PART OF THE T OPPOSITION TO BE SO OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING THAT HE DID.

OPPOSITION TO BE SO OPPOSED TO EVERYTHING THAT HE DID.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT TURNED OUT EVERYTHING THAT HE DID.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE THE CASE.

AND OBVIOUSLY THAT TURNED OUT NOT TO BE THE CASE.

THE FEVER IF ANYTHING SEEMS AS NOT TO BE THE CASE.

THE FEVER IF ANYTHING SEEMS AS HOT AS EVER.

THE FEVER IF ANYTHING SEEMS AS HOT AS EVER.

GWEN: IF THERE'S FEVER ABOUT HOT AS EVER.

GWEN: IF THERE'S FEVER ABOUT ANYTHING IT'S ABOUT HEALTH GWEN: IF THERE'S FEVER ABOUT ANYTHING IT'S ABOUT HEALTH CARE.

ANYTHING IT'S ABOUT HEALTH CARE.

LET'S GET TO SOME OF OUR CARE.

LET'S GET TO SOME OF OUR VIEWERS' QUESTIONS.

LET'S GET TO SOME OF OUR VIEWERS' QUESTIONS.

THIS VIRGINIA VOTER IS VIEWERS' QUESTIONS.

THIS VIRGINIA VOTER IS EXASPERATED BY THE HEALTH CARE THIS VIRGINIA VOTER IS EXASPERATED BY THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE.

EXASPERATED BY THE HEALTH CARE DEBATE.

>> I WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY ARE DEBATE.

>> I WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY ARE SO AFRAID OF THE HEALTH CARE >> I WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY ARE SO AFRAID OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW?

SO AFRAID OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW?

IS IT BECAUSE MAYBE THE BIG LAW?

IS IT BECAUSE MAYBE THE BIG COMPANIES WILL NOT SUPPORT IS IT BECAUSE MAYBE THE BIG COMPANIES WILL NOT SUPPORT THEIR CAMPAIGN?

COMPANIES WILL NOT SUPPORT THEIR CAMPAIGN?

GWEN: THEIR CAMPAIGN?

GWEN: THEODORA'S OPINION, KAREN.

GWEN: THEODORA'S OPINION, KAREN.

BUT WHAT IS THE STATE OF THIS THEODORA'S OPINION, KAREN.

BUT WHAT IS THE STATE OF THIS RIGHT NOW?

BUT WHAT IS THE STATE OF THIS RIGHT NOW?

IS THERE FEAR OF THE HEALTH RIGHT NOW?

IS THERE FEAR OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW?

IS THERE FEAR OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW?

>> THERE IS FEAR OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW?

>> THERE IS FEAR OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW.

>> THERE IS FEAR OF THE HEALTH CARE LAW.

THERE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG.

CARE LAW.

THERE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG.

THE DIVISIONS ARE REALLY NOT THERE HAS BEEN ALL ALONG.

THE DIVISIONS ARE REALLY NOT BECAUSE OF ONE INDUSTRY OR THE DIVISIONS ARE REALLY NOT BECAUSE OF ONE INDUSTRY OR ANOTHER.

BECAUSE OF ONE INDUSTRY OR ANOTHER.

IT'S BECAUSE OF A REALLY BIG ANOTHER.

IT'S BECAUSE OF A REALLY BIG PHILOSOPHICAL, IDEOLOGICAL AND IT'S BECAUSE OF A REALLY BIG PHILOSOPHICAL, IDEOLOGICAL AND INCREASINGLY PARTISAN QUESTION PHILOSOPHICAL, IDEOLOGICAL AND INCREASINGLY PARTISAN QUESTION ABOUT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.

INCREASINGLY PARTISAN QUESTION ABOUT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.

AND HOW BIG GOVERNMENT SHOULD ABOUT THE ROLE OF GOVERNMENT.

AND HOW BIG GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AND WHAT IT SHOULD DO.

AND HOW BIG GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE AND WHAT IT SHOULD DO.

AND THIS IS ALSO AGAINST A BE AND WHAT IT SHOULD DO.

AND THIS IS ALSO AGAINST A BACKDROP WHERE PEOPLE, EVERY AND THIS IS ALSO AGAINST A BACKDROP WHERE PEOPLE, EVERY POLL YOU LOOK AT, SHOWS THAT BACKDROP WHERE PEOPLE, EVERY POLL YOU LOOK AT, SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE SKEPTICAL THAN POLL YOU LOOK AT, SHOWS THAT PEOPLE ARE MORE SKEPTICAL THAN THEY HAVE EVER BEEN OF PEOPLE ARE MORE SKEPTICAL THAN THEY HAVE EVER BEEN OF WASHINGTON AND ITS ABILITY TO THEY HAVE EVER BEEN OF WASHINGTON AND ITS ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING RIGHT.

WASHINGTON AND ITS ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING RIGHT.

SO THIS -- THIS LAW HAS NEVER DO ANYTHING RIGHT.

SO THIS -- THIS LAW HAS NEVER REALLY GARNERED OVERWHELMING SO THIS -- THIS LAW HAS NEVER REALLY GARNERED OVERWHELMING PUBLIC SUPPORT.

REALLY GARNERED OVERWHELMING PUBLIC SUPPORT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS PUBLIC SUPPORT.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS DISASTROUS ROLLOUT, WHICH ANY AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS DISASTROUS ROLLOUT, WHICH ANY DOUBTS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE DISASTROUS ROLLOUT, WHICH ANY DOUBTS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE HAD ABOUT WHETHER WASHINGTON DOUBTS THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE HAD ABOUT WHETHER WASHINGTON COULD GET IT RIGHT WOULD SEEM HAD ABOUT WHETHER WASHINGTON COULD GET IT RIGHT WOULD SEEM TO HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED.

COULD GET IT RIGHT WOULD SEEM TO HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED.

SO IN OUR OWN POLL, FOR TO HAVE BEEN CONFIRMED.

SO IN OUR OWN POLL, FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE FINDING, YOU SO IN OUR OWN POLL, FOR INSTANCE, WE'RE FINDING, YOU KNOW, THAT SUPPORT FOR THE BILL INSTANCE, WE'RE FINDING, YOU KNOW, THAT SUPPORT FOR THE BILL IS -- HAS DROPPED.

KNOW, THAT SUPPORT FOR THE BILL IS -- HAS DROPPED.

AND OPPOSITION HAS GONE UP BY IS -- HAS DROPPED.

AND OPPOSITION HAS GONE UP BY SOMETHING LIKE SEVEN POINTS AND OPPOSITION HAS GONE UP BY SOMETHING LIKE SEVEN POINTS JUST SINCE OCTOBER.

SOMETHING LIKE SEVEN POINTS JUST SINCE OCTOBER.

GWEN: THERE ALSO SEEMS TO BE A JUST SINCE OCTOBER.

GWEN: THERE ALSO SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT ACTUALLY GWEN: THERE ALSO SEEMS TO BE A LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT ACTUALLY WHAT IS IN THE BILL.

LOT OF CONFUSION ABOUT ACTUALLY WHAT IS IN THE BILL.

WHAT IS NOT IN THE BILL.

WHAT IS IN THE BILL.

WHAT IS NOT IN THE BILL.

WHAT IT WOULD DO, WHAT IT WHAT IS NOT IN THE BILL.

WHAT IT WOULD DO, WHAT IT WOULDN'T DO.

WHAT IT WOULD DO, WHAT IT WOULDN'T DO.

IS THAT BECAUSE CONGRESS ISN'T WOULDN'T DO.

IS THAT BECAUSE CONGRESS ISN'T INTERESTED IN EXPLAINING OR IS THAT BECAUSE CONGRESS ISN'T INTERESTED IN EXPLAINING OR BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE DROPPED INTERESTED IN EXPLAINING OR BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE DROPPED THE BALL, JEFF?

BECAUSE THE WHITE HOUSE DROPPED THE BALL, JEFF?

>> I THINK IT'S A BIT OF BOTH.

THE BALL, JEFF?

>> I THINK IT'S A BIT OF BOTH.

THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN A >> I THINK IT'S A BIT OF BOTH.

THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN A MESSAGING PROBLEM ON THIS.

THERE'S DEFINITELY BEEN A MESSAGING PROBLEM ON THIS.

IT'S NOT ONLY THAT.

MESSAGING PROBLEM ON THIS.

IT'S NOT ONLY THAT.

IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM OF IT'S NOT ONLY THAT.

IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM OF -- AS KAREN SAID PEOPLE HAVE IT IS A FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM OF -- AS KAREN SAID PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR -- AS KAREN SAID PEOPLE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR THESE -- SORT OF A BASIC NOT BEEN ABLE TO SIGN UP FOR THESE -- SORT OF A BASIC SERVICES.

THESE -- SORT OF A BASIC SERVICES.

BUT ACROSS THE BOARD PEOPLE SERVICES.

BUT ACROSS THE BOARD PEOPLE STILL LIKE WHAT'S IN IT.

BUT ACROSS THE BOARD PEOPLE STILL LIKE WHAT'S IN IT.

IF THEY CAN GET TO IT.

STILL LIKE WHAT'S IN IT.

IF THEY CAN GET TO IT.

LIKE THE PRE-EXISTING IF THEY CAN GET TO IT.

LIKE THE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

LIKE THE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS.

AND LEAVING YOUR CHILDREN ON CONDITIONS.

AND LEAVING YOUR CHILDREN ON UNTIL 26 YEARS OF AGE.

AND LEAVING YOUR CHILDREN ON UNTIL 26 YEARS OF AGE.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE ARE SEEING UNTIL 26 YEARS OF AGE.

BUT BEYOND THAT, WE ARE SEEING THE WHITE HOUSE, THE BUT BEYOND THAT, WE ARE SEEING THE WHITE HOUSE, THE ADMINISTRATION, KIND OF BIT BY THE WHITE HOUSE, THE ADMINISTRATION, KIND OF BIT BY BIT TAKING BACK SOME OF THE ADMINISTRATION, KIND OF BIT BY BIT TAKING BACK SOME OF THE LAW.

BIT TAKING BACK SOME OF THE LAW.

WE SAW A BIT OF THAT THIS WEEK LAW.

WE SAW A BIT OF THAT THIS WEEK WITH SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS NOT WE SAW A BIT OF THAT THIS WEEK WITH SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS NOT ABLE TO SIGN UP.

WITH SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS NOT ABLE TO SIGN UP.

AND OK, HOLD OFF UNTIL 2015.

ABLE TO SIGN UP.

AND OK, HOLD OFF UNTIL 2015.

SO WE'VE SEEN BIG BUSINESSES, AND OK, HOLD OFF UNTIL 2015.

SO WE'VE SEEN BIG BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES, SO ALL THAT SO WE'VE SEEN BIG BUSINESSES, SMALL BUSINESSES, SO ALL THAT IS LEFT BASICALLY -- AND IT'S A SMALL BUSINESSES, SO ALL THAT IS LEFT BASICALLY -- AND IT'S A BIG THING IS THE INDIVIDUAL IS LEFT BASICALLY -- AND IT'S A BIG THING IS THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

BIG THING IS THE INDIVIDUAL MANDATE.

THAT'S THE CENTRAL QUESTION.

MANDATE.

THAT'S THE CENTRAL QUESTION.

WILL THE ADMINISTRATION BE ABLE THAT'S THE CENTRAL QUESTION.

WILL THE ADMINISTRATION BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT?

WILL THE ADMINISTRATION BE ABLE TO KEEP THAT?

THEY CERTAINLY ARGUE THAT THEY TO KEEP THAT?

THEY CERTAINLY ARGUE THAT THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S A CENTRAL THEY CERTAINLY ARGUE THAT THEY HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S A CENTRAL PART OF THIS.

HAVE TO BECAUSE IT'S A CENTRAL PART OF THIS.

BUT SO MUCH CONFUSION ABOUT PART OF THIS.

BUT SO MUCH CONFUSION ABOUT THIS LAW.

BUT SO MUCH CONFUSION ABOUT THIS LAW.

AND IT REALLY HAS JUST THIS LAW.

AND IT REALLY HAS JUST AMPLIFIED AND GIVEN FUEL TO THE AND IT REALLY HAS JUST AMPLIFIED AND GIVEN FUEL TO THE REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT IT IS AMPLIFIED AND GIVEN FUEL TO THE REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT IT IS TOO BIG, GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO REPUBLICAN ARGUMENT THAT IT IS TOO BIG, GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO ALL THIS.

TOO BIG, GOVERNMENT CAN'T DO ALL THIS.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS ALL THIS.

>> I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE PUBLIC IS FEARFUL OF >> I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE PUBLIC IS FEARFUL OF IT, PARTLY, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT THE PUBLIC IS FEARFUL OF IT, PARTLY, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE SNAFUS AND THE CONFUSION IT, PARTLY, NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE SNAFUS AND THE CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS IS IT'S THE SNAFUS AND THE CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS IS IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THE ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS IS IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE SUCH A IMPORTANT TO SAY THE REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB OF MAKING IT SCARY.

REPUBLICANS HAVE DONE SUCH A GOOD JOB OF MAKING IT SCARY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S GOOD JOB OF MAKING IT SCARY.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CENTRAL TO THE REPUBLICAN ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S CENTRAL TO THE REPUBLICAN THINKING AT THE MOMENT IS ONCE CENTRAL TO THE REPUBLICAN THINKING AT THE MOMENT IS ONCE BIG ENTITLEMENT EXPANSIONS GET THINKING AT THE MOMENT IS ONCE BIG ENTITLEMENT EXPANSIONS GET INTO PLACE, AND ACTUALLY GET BIG ENTITLEMENT EXPANSIONS GET INTO PLACE, AND ACTUALLY GET PUT DOWN, THEY'RE REALLY HARD INTO PLACE, AND ACTUALLY GET PUT DOWN, THEY'RE REALLY HARD TO ROLL BACK.

PUT DOWN, THEY'RE REALLY HARD TO ROLL BACK.

PEOPLE LIKE THEM.

TO ROLL BACK.

PEOPLE LIKE THEM.

AND THAT'S -- THAT'S AN ELEMENT PEOPLE LIKE THEM.

AND THAT'S -- THAT'S AN ELEMENT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID AND THAT'S -- THAT'S AN ELEMENT THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID HERE.

THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO AVOID HERE.

GWEN: LET'S TAKE ANOTHER HEALTH HERE.

GWEN: LET'S TAKE ANOTHER HEALTH CARE QUESTION.

GWEN: LET'S TAKE ANOTHER HEALTH CARE QUESTION.

THIS ONE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE.

CARE QUESTION.

THIS ONE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE.

>> WHY ARE THE GOVERNMENT THIS ONE FROM NEW HAMPSHIRE.

>> WHY ARE THE GOVERNMENT DIGNITARIES ALLOWED TO KEEP >> WHY ARE THE GOVERNMENT DIGNITARIES ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR TONE PLANS AT TAXPAYER DIGNITARIES ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR TONE PLANS AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE AND THIS PLAN IS NOT THEIR TONE PLANS AT TAXPAYER EXPENSE AND THIS PLAN IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM?

EXPENSE AND THIS PLAN IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM?

GWEN: WHAT YOU SEE FROM JAN GOOD ENOUGH FOR THEM?

GWEN: WHAT YOU SEE FROM JAN THERE IS SOME OF THE RESENTMENT GWEN: WHAT YOU SEE FROM JAN THERE IS SOME OF THE RESENTMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

THERE IS SOME OF THE RESENTMENT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ABOUT THE DETAILS.

THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ABOUT THE DETAILS.

THAT THEY THINK EXISTS IN THIS ABOUT THE DETAILS.

THAT THEY THINK EXISTS IN THIS BILL.

THAT THEY THINK EXISTS IN THIS BILL.

>> EXACTLY.

BILL.

>> EXACTLY.

AND ONE THING THAT'S GOING ON >> EXACTLY.

AND ONE THING THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS SPEAKER BOEHNER AND ONE THING THAT'S GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS SPEAKER BOEHNER TRIED TO SIGN UP FOR THE HEALTH RIGHT NOW IS SPEAKER BOEHNER TRIED TO SIGN UP FOR THE HEALTH CARE LAW HIMSELF.

TRIED TO SIGN UP FOR THE HEALTH CARE LAW HIMSELF.

AND HIS OFFICE MADE A BIG TO DO CARE LAW HIMSELF.

AND HIS OFFICE MADE A BIG TO DO ABOUT HOW HE WAS GOING TO JOIN AND HIS OFFICE MADE A BIG TO DO ABOUT HOW HE WAS GOING TO JOIN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA ABOUT HOW HE WAS GOING TO JOIN THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA EXCHANGE.

THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA EXCHANGE.

SO HE WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF EXCHANGE.

SO HE WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF HIS COMPUTER AND SIGNING UP FOR SO HE WAS SITTING IN FRONT OF HIS COMPUTER AND SIGNING UP FOR THIS.

HIS COMPUTER AND SIGNING UP FOR THIS.

AND HE DID SIGN UP.

THIS.

AND HE DID SIGN UP.

BUT IT'S GOING TO COST HIM A AND HE DID SIGN UP.

BUT IT'S GOING TO COST HIM A LOT MORE MONEY.

BUT IT'S GOING TO COST HIM A LOT MORE MONEY.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN A BIG CENTRAL LOT MORE MONEY.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN A BIG CENTRAL DEBATE.

BUT THIS HAS BEEN A BIG CENTRAL DEBATE.

IF CONGRESS SHOULD BE INCLUDED DEBATE.

IF CONGRESS SHOULD BE INCLUDED OR SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED.

IF CONGRESS SHOULD BE INCLUDED OR SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED.

BUT ONE THING WE DO KNOW THAT OR SHOULD NOT BE INCLUDED.

BUT ONE THING WE DO KNOW THAT THEIR PLANS ARE BETTER.

BUT ONE THING WE DO KNOW THAT THEIR PLANS ARE BETTER.

THEY'RE GETTING A SPECIAL PERK THEIR PLANS ARE BETTER.

THEY'RE GETTING A SPECIAL PERK SIGNING UP FOR THEM.

THEY'RE GETTING A SPECIAL PERK SIGNING UP FOR THEM.

ON CAPITOL HILL.

SIGNING UP FOR THEM.

ON CAPITOL HILL.

YOU CAN WALK INTO SOME OF THESE ON CAPITOL HILL.

YOU CAN WALK INTO SOME OF THESE ROOMS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDORS YOU CAN WALK INTO SOME OF THESE ROOMS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDORS OF THE CAPITOL AND SEE THESE ROOMS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDORS OF THE CAPITOL AND SEE THESE PEOPLE HELPING EMPLOYEES SIGN OF THE CAPITOL AND SEE THESE PEOPLE HELPING EMPLOYEES SIGN UP FOR THIS.

PEOPLE HELPING EMPLOYEES SIGN UP FOR THIS.

IT'S NOT A WEBSITE.

UP FOR THIS.

IT'S NOT A WEBSITE.

LIKE WALKING INTO A SMALL TOWN IT'S NOT A WEBSITE.

LIKE WALKING INTO A SMALL TOWN INSURANCE COMPANY ALMOST FEELS LIKE WALKING INTO A SMALL TOWN INSURANCE COMPANY ALMOST FEELS LIKE.

INSURANCE COMPANY ALMOST FEELS LIKE.

SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY BEING LIKE.

SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY BEING TREATED BETTER.

SO THEY'RE DEFINITELY BEING TREATED BETTER.

BUT BY AND LARGE, TAXPAYERS ARE TREATED BETTER.

BUT BY AND LARGE, TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE.

BUT BY AND LARGE, TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE.

BUT THEY'RE PAYING THEIR PAYING FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE.

BUT THEY'RE PAYING THEIR SALARIES AS WELL.

BUT THEY'RE PAYING THEIR SALARIES AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE GOVERNMENT SALARIES AS WELL.

SO THESE ARE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

SO THESE ARE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES.

GWEN: AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE EMPLOYEES.

GWEN: AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE WHITE HOUSE IS PERFECTLY HAPPY GWEN: AND THIS IS SOMETHING THE WHITE HOUSE IS PERFECTLY HAPPY TO LET CONGRESS TO SORT OUT ON WHITE HOUSE IS PERFECTLY HAPPY TO LET CONGRESS TO SORT OUT ON THEIR OWN.

TO LET CONGRESS TO SORT OUT ON THEIR OWN.

THIS PIECE OF IT ANYWAY.

THEIR OWN.

THIS PIECE OF IT ANYWAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

THIS PIECE OF IT ANYWAY.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

WHAT JEFF SAYS IS RIGHT.

NO QUESTION ABOUT IT.

WHAT JEFF SAYS IS RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT MEANT TO TAKE AWAY WHAT JEFF SAYS IS RIGHT.

THIS IS NOT MEANT TO TAKE AWAY EMPLOYER-BASED HEALTH CARE.

THIS IS NOT MEANT TO TAKE AWAY EMPLOYER-BASED HEALTH CARE.

AND THE EMPLOYER, THE MEMBERS EMPLOYER-BASED HEALTH CARE.

AND THE EMPLOYER, THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, A PROVIDE AND THE EMPLOYER, THE MEMBERS OF CONGRESS, A PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR THOSE WHO OF CONGRESS, A PROVIDE INSURANCE FOR THOSE WHO CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE IT.

INSURANCE FOR THOSE WHO CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE IT.

IT.AFFORD CURRENTLY DON'T HAVE IT.

IT.AFFORD >> ONE OF THE POLITICAL IT.AFFORD >> ONE OF THE POLITICAL PROBLEMS WITH THE BILL IS 85% >> ONE OF THE POLITICAL PROBLEMS WITH THE BILL IS 85% OF THE PUBLIC HAS HEALTH PROBLEMS WITH THE BILL IS 85% OF THE PUBLIC HAS HEALTH COVERAGE THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE OF THE PUBLIC HAS HEALTH COVERAGE THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE FAIRLY SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY COVERAGE THAT MOST PEOPLE ARE FAIRLY SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY GET FROM THEIR EMPLOYERS.

FAIRLY SATISFIED WITH WHAT THEY GET FROM THEIR EMPLOYERS.

SO ONE OF THE ANXIETIES IS THAT GET FROM THEIR EMPLOYERS.

SO ONE OF THE ANXIETIES IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO COME SO ONE OF THE ANXIETIES IS THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING THAT THE GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING THAT DISRUPTS WHAT I'VE GOT AND IN AND DO SOMETHING THAT DISRUPTS WHAT I'VE GOT AND SOMEHOW MAKE IT WORSE THAN WHAT DISRUPTS WHAT I'VE GOT AND SOMEHOW MAKE IT WORSE THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.

SOMEHOW MAKE IT WORSE THAN WHAT IT IS NOW.

GWEN: THERE'S ONE MORE DETAIL.

IT IS NOW.

GWEN: THERE'S ONE MORE DETAIL.

BEFORE WE MOVE OFF HEALTH CARE, GWEN: THERE'S ONE MORE DETAIL.

BEFORE WE MOVE OFF HEALTH CARE, THIS IS A LAW THAT'S ALREADY BEFORE WE MOVE OFF HEALTH CARE, THIS IS A LAW THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IN EFFECT FOR A WHILE.

THIS IS A LAW THAT'S ALREADY BEEN IN EFFECT FOR A WHILE.

LET'S LISTEN TO RANDY WHO WROTE BEEN IN EFFECT FOR A WHILE.

LET'S LISTEN TO RANDY WHO WROTE THIS IN FROM FACEBOOK.

LET'S LISTEN TO RANDY WHO WROTE THIS IN FROM FACEBOOK.

HE WROTE, THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE THIS IN FROM FACEBOOK.

HE WROTE, THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

HE WROTE, THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

HE SAID WHAT PART OF THE GOING TO TAKE A LOOK AT THIS.

HE SAID WHAT PART OF THE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE LAW STILL HE SAID WHAT PART OF THE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE LAW STILL HAS YET TO GO INTO EFFECT?

NATIONAL HEALTH CARE LAW STILL HAS YET TO GO INTO EFFECT?

CAN PEOPLE WHO ARE OF NO INCOME HAS YET TO GO INTO EFFECT?

CAN PEOPLE WHO ARE OF NO INCOME SIGN UP FOR THE NATIONAL HEALTH CAN PEOPLE WHO ARE OF NO INCOME SIGN UP FOR THE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE INSURANCE PLAN?

SIGN UP FOR THE NATIONAL HEALTH CARE INSURANCE PLAN?

KAREN?

CARE INSURANCE PLAN?

KAREN?

>> I THINK THE BIG QUESTION KAREN?

>> I THINK THE BIG QUESTION THAT'S STILL OUT THERE, COME >> I THINK THE BIG QUESTION THAT'S STILL OUT THERE, COME JANUARY 1, WHEN ALL THESE THAT'S STILL OUT THERE, COME JANUARY 1, WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE, PRESUMABLY THE WEBSITE JANUARY 1, WHEN ALL THESE PEOPLE, PRESUMABLY THE WEBSITE GETS WORKING AND ALL THESE PEOPLE, PRESUMABLY THE WEBSITE GETS WORKING AND ALL THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE COVERAGE GETS WORKING AND ALL THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE COVERAGE AND THEY CAN BEGIN SHOWING UP PEOPLE THINK THEY HAVE COVERAGE AND THEY CAN BEGIN SHOWING UP AT DOCTORS' OFFICES AND AND THEY CAN BEGIN SHOWING UP AT DOCTORS' OFFICES AND HOSPITALS AND COMMUNITY HEALTH AT DOCTORS' OFFICES AND HOSPITALS AND COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS, THE QUESTION IS, HOSPITALS AND COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTERS, THE QUESTION IS, WHETHER THERE WILL BE PRIMARY CENTERS, THE QUESTION IS, WHETHER THERE WILL BE PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS THERE FOR THEM, WHETHER THERE WILL BE PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS THERE FOR THEM, WHETHER THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH CARE PROVIDERS THERE FOR THEM, WHETHER THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH THE CARE THEY'RE GETTING, AND WHETHER THEY ARE SATISFIED WITH THE CARE THEY'RE GETTING, AND SATISFIED WITH THE CHOICES THAT THE CARE THEY'RE GETTING, AND SATISFIED WITH THE CHOICES THAT THEY HAVE.

SATISFIED WITH THE CHOICES THAT THEY HAVE.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE THEY HAVE.

AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE NOT GOING TO LEARN UNTIL NEXT AND THAT IS SOMETHING WE ARE NOT GOING TO LEARN UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

NOT GOING TO LEARN UNTIL NEXT YEAR.

AS FAR AS LOW INCOME PEOPLE, YEAR.

AS FAR AS LOW INCOME PEOPLE, THANKS TO THE SUPREME COURT, AS FAR AS LOW INCOME PEOPLE, THANKS TO THE SUPREME COURT, THE FACT IS THAT ABOUT HALF THE THANKS TO THE SUPREME COURT, THE FACT IS THAT ABOUT HALF THE COUNTRY, LOW INCOME PEOPLE, ARE THE FACT IS THAT ABOUT HALF THE COUNTRY, LOW INCOME PEOPLE, ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY LEFT OUT COUNTRY, LOW INCOME PEOPLE, ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETELY LEFT OUT OF THIS LAW.

GOING TO BE COMPLETELY LEFT OUT OF THIS LAW.

BECAUSE THE COURT MADE IT OF THIS LAW.

BECAUSE THE COURT MADE IT OPTIONAL FOR STATES TO EXPAND BECAUSE THE COURT MADE IT OPTIONAL FOR STATES TO EXPAND THEIR MEDICAID PROGRAMS.

OPTIONAL FOR STATES TO EXPAND THEIR MEDICAID PROGRAMS.

AND HALF THE STATES HAVE THEIR MEDICAID PROGRAMS.

AND HALF THE STATES HAVE DECIDED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO AND HALF THE STATES HAVE DECIDED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.

DECIDED THEY'RE NOT GOING TO DO IT.

GWEN: THIS WAS BAD NEWS FOR THE IT.

GWEN: THIS WAS BAD NEWS FOR THE PRESIDENT.

GWEN: THIS WAS BAD NEWS FOR THE PRESIDENT.

BUT THE REPUBLICANS HAD SOME PRESIDENT.

BUT THE REPUBLICANS HAD SOME BAD NEWS THIS YEAR AS WELL.

BUT THE REPUBLICANS HAD SOME BAD NEWS THIS YEAR AS WELL.

AND IT HAPPENED ON CAPITOL BAD NEWS THIS YEAR AS WELL.

AND IT HAPPENED ON CAPITOL HILL.

AND IT HAPPENED ON CAPITOL HILL.

LISTEN TO -- FROM -- LET'S SEE, HILL.

LISTEN TO -- FROM -- LET'S SEE, DANIEL FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

LISTEN TO -- FROM -- LET'S SEE, DANIEL FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

>> I'M WONDERING WHAT DANIEL FROM PENNSYLVANIA.

>> I'M WONDERING WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'LL BE DOING TO >> I'M WONDERING WHAT SPECIFICALLY YOU'LL BE DOING TO PREVENT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SPECIFICALLY YOU'LL BE DOING TO PREVENT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?

PREVENT ANOTHER GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN?

GWEN: THAT'S A PRETTY -- SHUTDOWN?

GWEN: THAT'S A PRETTY -- THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT'S NOT GWEN: THAT'S A PRETTY -- THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> NO GUARANTEE AT ALL.

GOING TO HAPPEN AGAIN.

>> NO GUARANTEE AT ALL.

SOME PEOPLE, SENATOR TED CRUZ >> NO GUARANTEE AT ALL.

SOME PEOPLE, SENATOR TED CRUZ IS ONE OF THEM.

SOME PEOPLE, SENATOR TED CRUZ IS ONE OF THEM.

HE HAS NOT RULED THIS OUT AND IS ONE OF THEM.

HE HAS NOT RULED THIS OUT AND LEADING THE CHARGE LAST TIME.

HE HAS NOT RULED THIS OUT AND LEADING THE CHARGE LAST TIME.

BUT I THINK GENERALLY, ALL THE LEADING THE CHARGE LAST TIME.

BUT I THINK GENERALLY, ALL THE REPUBLICANS I TALKED TO ON BUT I THINK GENERALLY, ALL THE REPUBLICANS I TALKED TO ON CAPITOL HILL BY AND LARGE IN REPUBLICANS I TALKED TO ON CAPITOL HILL BY AND LARGE IN THE LEADERSHIP ON BOTH SIDES CAPITOL HILL BY AND LARGE IN THE LEADERSHIP ON BOTH SIDES AGREE THAT IT IS BAD FOR THE THE LEADERSHIP ON BOTH SIDES AGREE THAT IT IS BAD FOR THE PARTY.

AGREE THAT IT IS BAD FOR THE PARTY.

AND THE SHUTDOWN IS MORE THAN A PARTY.

AND THE SHUTDOWN IS MORE THAN A MONTH IN THE REAR-VIEW MIRROR.

AND THE SHUTDOWN IS MORE THAN A MONTH IN THE REAR-VIEW MIRROR.

WHY REVISIT THAT AGAIN?

MONTH IN THE REAR-VIEW MIRROR.

WHY REVISIT THAT AGAIN?

THE POLITICS ARE NOT GOOD FOR WHY REVISIT THAT AGAIN?

THE POLITICS ARE NOT GOOD FOR THAT.

THE POLITICS ARE NOT GOOD FOR THAT.

MITCH MCCONNELL, THE REPUBLICAN THAT.

MITCH MCCONNELL, THE REPUBLICAN LEADER OF THE SENATE, HE SAYS MITCH MCCONNELL, THE REPUBLICAN LEADER OF THE SENATE, HE SAYS THAT WE'LL NOT DO THIS AGAIN.

LEADER OF THE SENATE, HE SAYS THAT WE'LL NOT DO THIS AGAIN.

WE'LL SEE.

THAT WE'LL NOT DO THIS AGAIN.

WE'LL SEE.

BUT I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT WE'LL SEE.

BUT I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

BUT I WOULD BE SURPRISED IF IT HAPPENS AGAIN.

>> REPUBLICANS REALIZE IT FEELS HAPPENS AGAIN.

>> REPUBLICANS REALIZE IT FEELS GOOD NOT TO BANG YOUR HEAD >> REPUBLICANS REALIZE IT FEELS GOOD NOT TO BANG YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL.

GOOD NOT TO BANG YOUR HEAD AGAINST THE WALL.

GWEN: MITCH MCCONNELL CALLED IT AGAINST THE WALL.

GWEN: MITCH MCCONNELL CALLED IT A KICK BY A MULE.

GWEN: MITCH MCCONNELL CALLED IT A KICK BY A MULE.

>> A KENTUCKY PHRASE.

A KICK BY A MULE.

>> A KENTUCKY PHRASE.

>> AND 10 POINTS IN POPULARITY >> A KENTUCKY PHRASE.

>> AND 10 POINTS IN POPULARITY AND G.D.P.

>> AND 10 POINTS IN POPULARITY AND G.D.P.

SO VERY DAMAGING TO THE G.O.P.

AND G.D.P.

SO VERY DAMAGING TO THE G.O.P.

BRAND.

SO VERY DAMAGING TO THE G.O.P.

BRAND.

17 YEARS SINCE THEY DID IT BRAND.

17 YEARS SINCE THEY DID IT BEFORE.

17 YEARS SINCE THEY DID IT BEFORE.

THIS ONE WAS SUCH A TOUGH BEFORE.

THIS ONE WAS SUCH A TOUGH LESSON IT MAY BE ANOTHER 17 THIS ONE WAS SUCH A TOUGH LESSON IT MAY BE ANOTHER 17 YEARS.

LESSON IT MAY BE ANOTHER 17 YEARS.

>> WHY GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR YEARS.

>> WHY GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR OPPONENT WHEN YOUR OPPONENT IS >> WHY GET IN THE WAY OF YOUR OPPONENT WHEN YOUR OPPONENT IS BUSY SHOOTING HIMSELF?

OPPONENT WHEN YOUR OPPONENT IS BUSY SHOOTING HIMSELF?

AT THIS POINT, REPUBLICANS CAN BUSY SHOOTING HIMSELF?

AT THIS POINT, REPUBLICANS CAN LOOK AROUND AND SAY OBAMA IS AT THIS POINT, REPUBLICANS CAN LOOK AROUND AND SAY OBAMA IS HAVING SO MUCH TROUBLE ON HIS LOOK AROUND AND SAY OBAMA IS HAVING SO MUCH TROUBLE ON HIS OWN WITH OBAMACARE, WITH HIS HAVING SO MUCH TROUBLE ON HIS OWN WITH OBAMACARE, WITH HIS HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.

OWN WITH OBAMACARE, WITH HIS HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.

THAT TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT HEALTH CARE PROGRAM.

THAT TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN WOULD ONLY GET IN THE THAT TO HAVE A GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN WOULD ONLY GET IN THE WAY OF A PERIOD THAT'S NOT SHUTDOWN WOULD ONLY GET IN THE WAY OF A PERIOD THAT'S NOT REALLY GOOD FOR HIM.

WAY OF A PERIOD THAT'S NOT REALLY GOOD FOR HIM.

>> THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO REALLY GOOD FOR HIM.

>> THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO FUNDING THE GOVERNMENT >> THAT MEANS THEY HAVE TO AGREE TO FUNDING THE GOVERNMENT THEN.

AGREE TO FUNDING THE GOVERNMENT THEN.

SO ALL THESE LEVELS AND THINGS THEN.

SO ALL THESE LEVELS AND THINGS ARE STILL -- THEY'VE NOT MADE SO ALL THESE LEVELS AND THINGS ARE STILL -- THEY'VE NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS AS NEAR AS I CAN ARE STILL -- THEY'VE NOT MADE ANY PROGRESS AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL.

ANY PROGRESS AS NEAR AS I CAN TELL.

AND IT'S STILL GOING TO COME UP TELL.

AND IT'S STILL GOING TO COME UP TO THE VERY LAST MINUTE WHICH I AND IT'S STILL GOING TO COME UP TO THE VERY LAST MINUTE WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE JANUARY 14.

TO THE VERY LAST MINUTE WHICH I GUESS WOULD BE JANUARY 14.

BECAUSE THAT DEADLINE IS GUESS WOULD BE JANUARY 14.

BECAUSE THAT DEADLINE IS JANUARY 16.

BECAUSE THAT DEADLINE IS JANUARY 16.

GWEN: UNDER ALL OF THESE JANUARY 16.

GWEN: UNDER ALL OF THESE CONCERNS IS THE ECONOMY.

GWEN: UNDER ALL OF THESE CONCERNS IS THE ECONOMY.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING TO CONCERNS IS THE ECONOMY.

WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING TO BOLSTER THE ECONOMY?

WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE DOING TO BOLSTER THE ECONOMY?

GET JOBS?

BOLSTER THE ECONOMY?

GET JOBS?

WE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

GET JOBS?

WE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS FROM LORNA ON FACEBOOK.

WE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.

THIS IS FROM LORNA ON FACEBOOK.

SHE SAYS MY CHILDREN ARE THIS IS FROM LORNA ON FACEBOOK.

SHE SAYS MY CHILDREN ARE DROWNING IN STUDENT DEBT.

SHE SAYS MY CHILDREN ARE DROWNING IN STUDENT DEBT.

AND JOBS ARE NOT MEETING THEIR DROWNING IN STUDENT DEBT.

AND JOBS ARE NOT MEETING THEIR EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS.

AND JOBS ARE NOT MEETING THEIR EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS.

ONE DAUGHTER WITH TWO MASTER'S EDUCATIONAL SUCCESS.

ONE DAUGHTER WITH TWO MASTER'S DEGREES IS MAKING LESS THAN $14 ONE DAUGHTER WITH TWO MASTER'S DEGREES IS MAKING LESS THAN $14 AN HOUR.

DEGREES IS MAKING LESS THAN $14 AN HOUR.

SO HOW DO YOU SPEAK TO FAMILIES AN HOUR.

SO HOW DO YOU SPEAK TO FAMILIES LIKE THAT, KAREN?

SO HOW DO YOU SPEAK TO FAMILIES LIKE THAT, KAREN?

>> I WENT AND I LOOKED UP THE LIKE THAT, KAREN?

>> I WENT AND I LOOKED UP THE STATISTICS WHEN I SAW THAT >> I WENT AND I LOOKED UP THE STATISTICS WHEN I SAW THAT QUESTION.

STATISTICS WHEN I SAW THAT QUESTION.

AND IN FACT, STUDENT DEBT HAS QUESTION.

AND IN FACT, STUDENT DEBT HAS SURGED 45% IN THE LAST THREE AND IN FACT, STUDENT DEBT HAS SURGED 45% IN THE LAST THREE YEARS ALONE.

SURGED 45% IN THE LAST THREE YEARS ALONE.

THE AVERAGE GRADUATE OF THE YEARS ALONE.

THE AVERAGE GRADUATE OF THE CLASS OF 2013 LEFT COLLEGE WITH THE AVERAGE GRADUATE OF THE CLASS OF 2013 LEFT COLLEGE WITH $28,000 WORTH OF DEBT.

CLASS OF 2013 LEFT COLLEGE WITH $28,000 WORTH OF DEBT.

AND THESE KIDS, I CAN SAY KIDS, $28,000 WORTH OF DEBT.

AND THESE KIDS, I CAN SAY KIDS, ARE -- THEY'RE NOT FINDING JOBS AND THESE KIDS, I CAN SAY KIDS, ARE -- THEY'RE NOT FINDING JOBS OUT THERE THAT REALLY SPEAK TO ARE -- THEY'RE NOT FINDING JOBS OUT THERE THAT REALLY SPEAK TO THE SKILLS THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE THAT REALLY SPEAK TO THE SKILLS THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED IN COLLEGE.

THE SKILLS THAT THEY HAVE DEVELOPED IN COLLEGE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IS -- ONE DEVELOPED IN COLLEGE.

AND I THINK THAT THAT IS -- ONE OF THE PRIMARY ENGINES OF AND I THINK THAT THAT IS -- ONE OF THE PRIMARY ENGINES OF ECONOMIC INSECURITY IN THIS OF THE PRIMARY ENGINES OF ECONOMIC INSECURITY IN THIS COUNTRY IS THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT ECONOMIC INSECURITY IN THIS COUNTRY IS THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT THEIR CHILDREN.

COUNTRY IS THAT PEOPLE LOOK AT THEIR CHILDREN.

THEY LOOK AT THEIR THEIR CHILDREN.

THEY LOOK AT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN.

THEY LOOK AT THEIR GRANDCHILDREN.

AND THEY WORRY THAT THEY'RE NOT GRANDCHILDREN.

AND THEY WORRY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE KINDS OF AND THEY WORRY THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO HAVE THE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAD.

GOING TO HAVE THE KINDS OF OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAD.

GWEN: LISTEN TO HANNAH.

OPPORTUNITIES THAT THEY HAD.

GWEN: LISTEN TO HANNAH.

A VIEWER FROM CALIFORNIA.

GWEN: LISTEN TO HANNAH.

A VIEWER FROM CALIFORNIA.

SHE ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT A VIEWER FROM CALIFORNIA.

SHE ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT JOBS.

SHE ALSO HAD A QUESTION ABOUT JOBS.

>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO CREATE JOBS.

>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO CREATE FULL-TIME JOBS?

>> WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO CREATE FULL-TIME JOBS?

A PROBLEM FOR MANY OF US AROUND FULL-TIME JOBS?

A PROBLEM FOR MANY OF US AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WE CAN ONLY A PROBLEM FOR MANY OF US AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WE CAN ONLY GET PART-TIME WORK WHEN WE NEED THE COUNTRY THAT WE CAN ONLY GET PART-TIME WORK WHEN WE NEED FULL-TIME WORK.

GET PART-TIME WORK WHEN WE NEED FULL-TIME WORK.

GWEN: WHICH IS OF COURSE KEY TO FULL-TIME WORK.

GWEN: WHICH IS OF COURSE KEY TO ALL OF THIS, PETER.

GWEN: WHICH IS OF COURSE KEY TO ALL OF THIS, PETER.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR JOHN ALL OF THIS, PETER.

BECAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR JOHN BOEHNER OR YOU HAR ANYBODY BECAUSE WHEN YOU HEAR JOHN BOEHNER OR YOU HAR ANYBODY GETTING UP IN FRONT OF A BOEHNER OR YOU HAR ANYBODY GETTING UP IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE AND SAYING JOBS, GETTING UP IN FRONT OF A MICROPHONE AND SAYING JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, HE'S LISTENINTOG MICROPHONE AND SAYING JOBS, JOBS, JOBS, HE'S LISTENINTOG THESE VERY SAME VOTERS BUT IS JOBS, JOBS, HE'S LISTENINTOG THESE VERY SAME VOTERS BUT IS ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING SPEAKING THESE VERY SAME VOTERS BUT IS ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING SPEAKING TO THESE VOTERS?

ANYTHING THEY'RE DOING SPEAKING TO THESE VOTERS?

>> AT THE MOMENT THERE'S SUCH TO THESE VOTERS?

>> AT THE MOMENT THERE'S SUCH PARALYSIS THAT NEITHER SIDE IS >> AT THE MOMENT THERE'S SUCH PARALYSIS THAT NEITHER SIDE IS ADVANCING ANY POLICIES THAT ARE PARALYSIS THAT NEITHER SIDE IS ADVANCING ANY POLICIES THAT ARE CHANGING THINGS IN THAT REGARD.

ADVANCING ANY POLICIES THAT ARE CHANGING THINGS IN THAT REGARD.

THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE, THINGS CHANGING THINGS IN THAT REGARD.

THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE, THINGS THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THE THE OBAMA WHITE HOUSE, THINGS THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THE RECOVERY ACT AND THE TAX -- THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, THE RECOVERY ACT AND THE TAX -- FINALIZING THE TAX RATES IN A RECOVERY ACT AND THE TAX -- FINALIZING THE TAX RATES IN A WAY THAT THEY LIKED.

FINALIZING THE TAX RATES IN A WAY THAT THEY LIKED.

BUT AT THE MOMENT THEIR PLANS WAY THAT THEY LIKED.

BUT AT THE MOMENT THEIR PLANS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, RESEARCH BUT AT THE MOMENT THEIR PLANS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, TAX CREDITS, FOR INFRASTRUCTURE, RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, TAX CREDITS, AND SO ON, IS STALLED IN AND DEVELOPMENT, TAX CREDITS, AND SO ON, IS STALLED IN CONGRESS.

AND SO ON, IS STALLED IN CONGRESS.

AND THEY MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT CONGRESS.

AND THEY MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE SEQUESTER, WHICH IS AN AND THEY MAKE THE ARGUMENT THAT THE SEQUESTER, WHICH IS AN AUTOMATIC BUDGET CUTS THAT HAVE THE SEQUESTER, WHICH IS AN AUTOMATIC BUDGET CUTS THAT HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT AND GOVERNMENT AUTOMATIC BUDGET CUTS THAT HAVE GONE INTO EFFECT AND GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN ARE HURTING JOB GONE INTO EFFECT AND GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN ARE HURTING JOB CORPORATION.

SHUTDOWN ARE HURTING JOB CORPORATION.

BUT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE CORPORATION.

BUT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY MOVEMENT IN A FORWARD BUT THERE DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ANY MOVEMENT IN A FORWARD DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.

ANY MOVEMENT IN A FORWARD DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.

>> WE TALK A LOT ON THIS SHOW, DIRECTION RIGHT NOW.

>> WE TALK A LOT ON THIS SHOW, AND IN WASHINGTON, ABOUT >> WE TALK A LOT ON THIS SHOW, AND IN WASHINGTON, ABOUT MOVING OR NOT OF LEGISLATI AND IN WASHINGTON, ABOUT MOVING OR NOT OF LEGISLATI MOVING OR STALLED OR NOT MOVING OR NOT OF LEGISLATI MOVING OR STALLED OR NOT STALLED.

MOVING OR STALLED OR NOT STALLED.

AND IN THE MINDS OF MOST STALLED.

AND IN THE MINDS OF MOST AMERICANS THIS IS THE ONLY AND IN THE MINDS OF MOST AMERICANS THIS IS THE ONLY ISSUE.

AMERICANS THIS IS THE ONLY ISSUE.

IN FACT, IT'S THE TOP THREE ISSUE.

IN FACT, IT'S THE TOP THREE ISSUE AND A CONVERSATION THAT IN FACT, IT'S THE TOP THREE ISSUE AND A CONVERSATION THAT REALLY DOESN'T TAKE PLACE HERE ISSUE AND A CONVERSATION THAT REALLY DOESN'T TAKE PLACE HERE VERY OFTEN BECAUSE AS YOU SAID REALLY DOESN'T TAKE PLACE HERE VERY OFTEN BECAUSE AS YOU SAID OF THE PARALYSIS BETWEEN THE VERY OFTEN BECAUSE AS YOU SAID OF THE PARALYSIS BETWEEN THE PARTIES ABOUT WHAT FEW DIALS OF THE PARALYSIS BETWEEN THE PARTIES ABOUT WHAT FEW DIALS THEY HAVE ON THEIR DASHBOARD TO PARTIES ABOUT WHAT FEW DIALS THEY HAVE ON THEIR DASHBOARD TO TURN.

THEY HAVE ON THEIR DASHBOARD TO TURN.

BUT UNLESS WE ARE -- FIND SOME TURN.

BUT UNLESS WE ARE -- FIND SOME WAY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT BUT UNLESS WE ARE -- FIND SOME WAY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING INCOMES UP, YOU SEE -- WAY TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT GETTING INCOMES UP, YOU SEE -- BEGINNING TO SEE THINGS AROUND GETTING INCOMES UP, YOU SEE -- BEGINNING TO SEE THINGS AROUND THE COUNTRY ABOUT MINIMUM WAGES BEGINNING TO SEE THINGS AROUND THE COUNTRY ABOUT MINIMUM WAGES GOING UP.

THE COUNTRY ABOUT MINIMUM WAGES GOING UP.

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST GOING UP.

BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST FRUSTRATED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE JUST FRUSTRATED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PAY BILLS.

FRUSTRATED ABOUT BEING ABLE TO PAY BILLS.

GWEN: LET'S LISTEN TO JAMES PAY BILLS.

GWEN: LET'S LISTEN TO JAMES FROM MARYLAND.

GWEN: LET'S LISTEN TO JAMES FROM MARYLAND.

HE ACTUALLY EXPRESSES SOME OF FROM MARYLAND.

HE ACTUALLY EXPRESSES SOME OF THAT FRUSTRATION.

HE ACTUALLY EXPRESSES SOME OF THAT FRUSTRATION.

>> ESCALATING PRICES IN HOUSING THAT FRUSTRATION.

>> ESCALATING PRICES IN HOUSING ND RENT, POOR PEOPLE >> ESCALATING PRICES IN HOUSING ND RENT, POOR PEOPLE DISPLACEMENT.

ND RENT, POOR PEOPLE DISPLACEMENT.

HE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

DISPLACEMENT.

HE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BEING BUILT FOR THE RICH.

HE LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

BEING BUILT FOR THE RICH.

AND WITH PRICES THAT ARE BEING BUILT FOR THE RICH.

AND WITH PRICES THAT ARE UNAFFORDABLE POUR -- FOR PEOPLE AND WITH PRICES THAT ARE UNAFFORDABLE POUR -- FOR PEOPLE WITH MIDDLE INCOMES.

UNAFFORDABLE POUR -- FOR PEOPLE WITH MIDDLE INCOMES.

>> THIS GAP, THIS WEALTH GAP, WITH MIDDLE INCOMES.

>> THIS GAP, THIS WEALTH GAP, THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S GROWING >> THIS GAP, THIS WEALTH GAP, THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S GROWING INCOME INEQUALITY, MINIMUM WAGE THIS IDEA THAT THERE'S GROWING INCOME INEQUALITY, MINIMUM WAGE DEBATE JUST SCRATCHES THE INCOME INEQUALITY, MINIMUM WAGE DEBATE JUST SCRATCHES THE SURFACE.

DEBATE JUST SCRATCHES THE SURFACE.

>> AND IT'S NOT DISCUSSED VERY SURFACE.

>> AND IT'S NOT DISCUSSED VERY MUCH IN WASHINGTON AT ALL.

>> AND IT'S NOT DISCUSSED VERY MUCH IN WASHINGTON AT ALL.

AS MICHAEL SAID.

MUCH IN WASHINGTON AT ALL.

AS MICHAEL SAID.

THE JOB SLOGAN SORT OF AS MICHAEL SAID.

THE JOB SLOGAN SORT OF REAPPEARS AS DUSTED OFF EVERY THE JOB SLOGAN SORT OF REAPPEARS AS DUSTED OFF EVERY CAMPAIGN SEASON.

REAPPEARS AS DUSTED OFF EVERY CAMPAIGN SEASON.

AND THERE IS A CAMPAIGN SEASON CAMPAIGN SEASON.

AND THERE IS A CAMPAIGN SEASON COMING UP.

AND THERE IS A CAMPAIGN SEASON COMING UP.

BUT THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL COMING UP.

BUT THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL DEBATES THAT ARE HAPPENING SORT BUT THERE ARE FUNDAMENTAL DEBATES THAT ARE HAPPENING SORT OF -- WOULDN'T SAY BEHIND THE DEBATES THAT ARE HAPPENING SORT OF -- WOULDN'T SAY BEHIND THE SCENES BUT OFF TO THE SIDE IN OF -- WOULDN'T SAY BEHIND THE SCENES BUT OFF TO THE SIDE IN CONGRESS.

SCENES BUT OFF TO THE SIDE IN CONGRESS.

ABOUT THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM, CONGRESS.

ABOUT THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE.

ABOUT THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM, FOR EXAMPLE.

DEEP, DEEP, DEEP CUTS ARE FOR EXAMPLE.

DEEP, DEEP, DEEP CUTS ARE COMING TO THAT NEXT MONTH.

DEEP, DEEP, DEEP CUTS ARE COMING TO THAT NEXT MONTH.

AND IN DECEMBER, REPUBLICANS COMING TO THAT NEXT MONTH.

AND IN DECEMBER, REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO CUT $40 BILLION AND IN DECEMBER, REPUBLICANS ARE TRYING TO CUT $40 BILLION OVER 10 YEARS, DEMOCRATS SAY ARE TRYING TO CUT $40 BILLION OVER 10 YEARS, DEMOCRATS SAY NOT THAT MUCH.

OVER 10 YEARS, DEMOCRATS SAY NOT THAT MUCH.

BUT THERE ARE DEEP CUTS COMING.

NOT THAT MUCH.

BUT THERE ARE DEEP CUTS COMING.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL BUT THERE ARE DEEP CUTS COMING.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL ELECTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING, SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE LOCAL ELECTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING, AROUND THE COUNTRY, THE MAYOR ELECTIONS THAT ARE HAPPENING, AROUND THE COUNTRY, THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY, THAT WAS A AROUND THE COUNTRY, THE MAYOR OF NEW YORK CITY, THAT WAS A CENTRAL ISSUE IN HIS RACE, OF NEW YORK CITY, THAT WAS A CENTRAL ISSUE IN HIS RACE, INCOME DISPARITY.

CENTRAL ISSUE IN HIS RACE, INCOME DISPARITY.

SO YOU ARE SEEING THESE THINGS INCOME DISPARITY.

SO YOU ARE SEEING THESE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AROUND THE COUNTRY.

SO YOU ARE SEEING THESE THINGS THAT HAPPEN AROUND THE COUNTRY.

BUT NOT A LOT IN WASHINGTON.

THAT HAPPEN AROUND THE COUNTRY.

BUT NOT A LOT IN WASHINGTON.

>> AND AT THE OTHER END OF THE BUT NOT A LOT IN WASHINGTON.

>> AND AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE >> AND AT THE OTHER END OF THE SPECTRUM, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN A RECOVERY, THE TOP 1%, SPECTRUM, THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SEEN A RECOVERY, THE TOP 1%, AND WALL STREET IS BOOMING.

SEEN A RECOVERY, THE TOP 1%, AND WALL STREET IS BOOMING.

SO NOT ONLY ARE PEOPLE AT THE AND WALL STREET IS BOOMING.

SO NOT ONLY ARE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM FEELING LIKE THEY CAN'T SO NOT ONLY ARE PEOPLE AT THE BOTTOM FEELING LIKE THEY CAN'T GET AHEAD, BUT THEY ARE ALSO BOTTOM FEELING LIKE THEY CAN'T GET AHEAD, BUT THEY ARE ALSO SEEING THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP GET AHEAD, BUT THEY ARE ALSO SEEING THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP ARE ACTUALLY DOING QUITE WELL SEEING THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP ARE ACTUALLY DOING QUITE WELL AGAIN.

ARE ACTUALLY DOING QUITE WELL AGAIN.

>> YOU CAN SEE THE POPE AGAIN.

>> YOU CAN SEE THE POPE WEIGHING IN THIS WEEK.

>> YOU CAN SEE THE POPE WEIGHING IN THIS WEEK.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

WEIGHING IN THIS WEEK.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> TALKING ABOUT THE NOTION OF >> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> TALKING ABOUT THE NOTION OF TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS.

>> TALKING ABOUT THE NOTION OF TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS.

AND TAKING ON SOME OF CAP TRICKLE DOWN ECONOMICS.

AND TAKING ON SOME OF CAP TAMMISM'S HARSHEST EDGES -- AND TAKING ON SOME OF CAP TAMMISM'S HARSHEST EDGES -- CAPITALISM'S HARSHEST EDGES.

TAMMISM'S HARSHEST EDGES -- CAPITALISM'S HARSHEST EDGES.

GWEN: AND ONE BIG SHIFT WE'VE CAPITALISM'S HARSHEST EDGES.

GWEN: AND ONE BIG SHIFT WE'VE SEEN ACTUALLY INVOLVES PUBLIC GWEN: AND ONE BIG SHIFT WE'VE SEEN ACTUALLY INVOLVES PUBLIC OPINION TOWARD GAY MARRIAGE.

SEEN ACTUALLY INVOLVES PUBLIC OPINION TOWARD GAY MARRIAGE.

AND WE HEARD THIS FROM CATHY IN OPINION TOWARD GAY MARRIAGE.

AND WE HEARD THIS FROM CATHY IN CALIFORNIA.

AND WE HEARD THIS FROM CATHY IN CALIFORNIA.

>> WITH SO MANY MAJOR ISSUES CALIFORNIA.

>> WITH SO MANY MAJOR ISSUES FACING OUR GOVERNMENT TODAY, >> WITH SO MANY MAJOR ISSUES FACING OUR GOVERNMENT TODAY, SUCH AS POVERTY, ECONOMICS, AND FACING OUR GOVERNMENT TODAY, SUCH AS POVERTY, ECONOMICS, AND THE STRUGGLES THAT OUR FAMILIES SUCH AS POVERTY, ECONOMICS, AND THE STRUGGLES THAT OUR FAMILIES ARE GOING THROUGH, I'M AMAZED THE STRUGGLES THAT OUR FAMILIES ARE GOING THROUGH, I'M AMAZED AND APPALLED THAT OUR LEADERS ARE GOING THROUGH, I'M AMAZED AND APPALLED THAT OUR LEADERS SEE FIT AS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND APPALLED THAT OUR LEADERS SEE FIT AS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND RIGHT TO INTERFERE WITH SEE FIT AS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND RIGHT TO INTERFERE WITH PERSONAL LIVES.

AND RIGHT TO INTERFERE WITH PERSONAL LIVES.

GWEN: YOU CAN READ THAT A PERSONAL LIVES.

GWEN: YOU CAN READ THAT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

GWEN: YOU CAN READ THAT A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

BUT WE ASSUME THAT SHE BELIEVES COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS.

BUT WE ASSUME THAT SHE BELIEVES THAT THERE SHOULD BE GAY BUT WE ASSUME THAT SHE BELIEVES THAT THERE SHOULD BE GAY MARRIAGE.

THAT THERE SHOULD BE GAY MARRIAGE.

>> IT'S INTERESTING.

MARRIAGE.

>> IT'S INTERESTING.

I THINK THE DEGREE TO WHICH >> IT'S INTERESTING.

I THINK THE DEGREE TO WHICH THAT DEBATE IS EVEN HAPPENING I THINK THE DEGREE TO WHICH THAT DEBATE IS EVEN HAPPENING ANYMORE IS WITHIN THE THAT DEBATE IS EVEN HAPPENING ANYMORE IS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

ANYMORE IS WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THE FACT IS EVERY SINGLE POLL, REPUBLICAN PARTY.

THE FACT IS EVERY SINGLE POLL, EVERY SURVEY YOU LOOK AT SHOWS THE FACT IS EVERY SINGLE POLL, EVERY SURVEY YOU LOOK AT SHOWS THAT A MAJORITY OF PUBLIC EVERY SURVEY YOU LOOK AT SHOWS THAT A MAJORITY OF PUBLIC OPINION IS NOW COALESCING THAT A MAJORITY OF PUBLIC OPINION IS NOW COALESCING AROUND THE IDEA THAT SAME SEX OPINION IS NOW COALESCING AROUND THE IDEA THAT SAME SEX MARRIAGE SHOULD BE LEGAL.

AROUND THE IDEA THAT SAME SEX MARRIAGE SHOULD BE LEGAL.

YOU SEE THE DIRECTION THAT THE MARRIAGE SHOULD BE LEGAL.

YOU SEE THE DIRECTION THAT THE STATES ARE GOING IN.

YOU SEE THE DIRECTION THAT THE STATES ARE GOING IN.

ONE AFTER ANOTHER, THEY SEEM TO STATES ARE GOING IN.

ONE AFTER ANOTHER, THEY SEEM TO BE LIBERALIZING THEIR LAWS.

ONE AFTER ANOTHER, THEY SEEM TO BE LIBERALIZING THEIR LAWS.

NOT TIGHTENING THEIR LAWS.

BE LIBERALIZING THEIR LAWS.

NOT TIGHTENING THEIR LAWS.

AND I THINK THE BIG SHIFT HERE NOT TIGHTENING THEIR LAWS.

AND I THINK THE BIG SHIFT HERE IS DEMOGRAPHIC.

AND I THINK THE BIG SHIFT HERE IS DEMOGRAPHIC.

AMONG YOUNGER VOTES, EVEN A IS DEMOGRAPHIC.

AMONG YOUNGER VOTES, EVEN A MAJO OF REPUBLICANS NOW AMONG YOUNGER VOTES, EVEN A MAJO OF REPUBLICANS NOW SUPPORT SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

MAJO OF REPUBLICANS NOW SUPPORT SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

>> BUT THE REALITY IS ACROSS SUPPORT SAME SEX MARRIAGE.

>> BUT THE REALITY IS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE STILL >> BUT THE REALITY IS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE STILL STATES THAT ARE MOVING TO DO THE COUNTRY, THERE ARE STILL STATES THAT ARE MOVING TO DO THE OPPOSITE AS WELL.

STATES THAT ARE MOVING TO DO THE OPPOSITE AS WELL.

INDIANA IS ONE.

THE OPPOSITE AS WELL.

INDIANA IS ONE.

AND OTHERS AROUND THE COUNTRY INDIANA IS ONE.

AND OTHERS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE TRYING TO HOLD FAST ON AND OTHERS AROUND THE COUNTRY ARE TRYING TO HOLD FAST ON THAT.

ARE TRYING TO HOLD FAST ON THAT.

BUT YOU DON'T HEAR -- IT'S HARD THAT.

BUT YOU DON'T HEAR -- IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE HOW QUICKLY THIS HAS BUT YOU DON'T HEAR -- IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE HOW QUICKLY THIS HAS MOVED.

TO IMAGINE HOW QUICKLY THIS HAS MOVED.

THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL -- MOVED.

THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL -- DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL THE LAST PRESIDENTIAL -- DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION IN 2008, NEITHER OF DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL NOMINATION IN 2008, NEITHER OF THE CANDIDATES, NONE OF THE NOMINATION IN 2008, NEITHER OF THE CANDIDATES, NONE OF THE CANDIDATES WERE IN FAVOR OF THE CANDIDATES, NONE OF THE CANDIDATES WERE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

CANDIDATES WERE IN FAVOR OF THIS.

AND JOE BIDEN OF COURSE COMES THIS.

AND JOE BIDEN OF COURSE COMES FORWARD AND THEN PRESIDENT AND JOE BIDEN OF COURSE COMES FORWARD AND THEN PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THEN FINALLY HILLARY FORWARD AND THEN PRESIDENT OBAMA AND THEN FINALLY HILLARY CLINTON AFTER THAT.

OBAMA AND THEN FINALLY HILLARY CLINTON AFTER THAT.

SO THIS IS STILL ALL VERY NEW CLINTON AFTER THAT.

SO THIS IS STILL ALL VERY NEW ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

SO THIS IS STILL ALL VERY NEW ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE.

BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

NOT DISCUSSED AT ALL EXCEPT IN BUT YOU'RE RIGHT.

NOT DISCUSSED AT ALL EXCEPT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MOST NOT DISCUSSED AT ALL EXCEPT IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MOST FAMOUSLY WITH CHENEY.

THE REPUBLICAN PARTY MOST FAMOUSLY WITH CHENEY.

GWEN: IN 2014 AROUND THIS FAMOUSLY WITH CHENEY.

GWEN: IN 2014 AROUND THIS TABLE, YOU'LL BE DOING IT, TOO, GWEN: IN 2014 AROUND THIS TABLE, YOU'LL BE DOING IT, TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES THAT TABLE, YOU'LL BE DOING IT, TOO, BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES THAT WILL VOTE SO A LITTLE BIT OF BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONES THAT WILL VOTE SO A LITTLE BIT OF POLITICS.

WILL VOTE SO A LITTLE BIT OF POLITICS.

THAT'S -- THAT'S AT THE ROOT OF POLITICS.

THAT'S -- THAT'S AT THE ROOT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO THAT'S -- THAT'S AT THE ROOT OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE HAPPENING NEXT.

EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE HAPPENING NEXT.

LET'S LISTEN TO MIKE IN SEE HAPPENING NEXT.

LET'S LISTEN TO MIKE IN VIRGINIA.

LET'S LISTEN TO MIKE IN VIRGINIA.

>> WHY ARE YOU MORE CONCERNED VIRGINIA.

>> WHY ARE YOU MORE CONCERNED WITH WHAT YOUR PARTY IS GOING >> WHY ARE YOU MORE CONCERNED WITH WHAT YOUR PARTY IS GOING TO DO IN THE ELECTIONS RATHER WITH WHAT YOUR PARTY IS GOING TO DO IN THE ELECTIONS RATHER THAN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HELP TO DO IN THE ELECTIONS RATHER THAN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

THAN HOW YOU'RE GOING TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

THE UNEMPLOYED, THOSE WITHOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE?

THE UNEMPLOYED, THOSE WITHOUT HEALTH CARE, THINGS OF THAT THE UNEMPLOYED, THOSE WITHOUT HEALTH CARE, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

HEALTH CARE, THINGS OF THAT SORT.

GWEN: THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS SORT.

GWEN: THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS SENSE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T GWEN: THERE SEEMS TO BE THIS SENSE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T SPEAKING TO PEOPLE.

SENSE THAT PEOPLE AREN'T SPEAKING TO PEOPLE.

THAT THE POLITICIANS AREN'T SPEAKING TO PEOPLE.

THAT THE POLITICIANS AREN'T SPEAKING TO PEOPLE.

THAT THE POLITICIANS AREN'T SPEAKING TO PEOPLE.

>> I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY SPEAKING TO PEOPLE.

>> I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.

>> I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY RIGHT.

A LOT OF IT IS THAT EXPLAINS RIGHT.

A LOT OF IT IS THAT EXPLAINS WHY -- ONE OF THE REASONS WHY A LOT OF IT IS THAT EXPLAINS WHY -- ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE IS SUCH A LOW APPROVAL WHY -- ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THERE IS SUCH A LOW APPROVAL RATING OF CONGRESS AND THERE IS SUCH A LOW APPROVAL RATING OF CONGRESS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND TRUST RATING OF CONGRESS AND GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND TRUST IN PUBLIC OFFICES.

GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS AND TRUST IN PUBLIC OFFICES.

BUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT -- IN PUBLIC OFFICES.

BUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT -- MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH BUT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT -- MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE WITH THAT.

NO ONE HAS CORRALLED THAT.

THAT.

NO ONE HAS CORRALLED THAT.

SO IF THERE IS A POPULIST NO ONE HAS CORRALLED THAT.

SO IF THERE IS A POPULIST SENTIMENT, WE SAW IT RISE UP IN SO IF THERE IS A POPULIST SENTIMENT, WE SAW IT RISE UP IN THE TEA PARTY IN 2010, MIGHT IT SENTIMENT, WE SAW IT RISE UP IN THE TEA PARTY IN 2010, MIGHT IT RISE UP IN A DIFFERENT WAY THIS THE TEA PARTY IN 2010, MIGHT IT RISE UP IN A DIFFERENT WAY THIS 2014?

RISE UP IN A DIFFERENT WAY THIS 2014?

I'M NOT SURE.

2014?

I'M NOT SURE.

BUT IT IS ABOUT WINNING I'M NOT SURE.

BUT IT IS ABOUT WINNING RE-ELECTION.

BUT IT IS ABOUT WINNING RE-ELECTION.

HOUSE MEMBERS ARE UP EVERY TWO RE-ELECTION.

HOUSE MEMBERS ARE UP EVERY TWO YEARS.

HOUSE MEMBERS ARE UP EVERY TWO YEARS.

WHICH THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.

YEARS.

WHICH THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.

BUT YOU COULD -- WE COULD TALK WHICH THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.

BUT YOU COULD -- WE COULD TALK A LONG TIME ABOUT THE ANSWERS BUT YOU COULD -- WE COULD TALK A LONG TIME ABOUT THE ANSWERS OR NONANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.

A LONG TIME ABOUT THE ANSWERS OR NONANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.

BUT IT GETS BACK TO WHY WE OR NONANSWERS TO THAT QUESTION.

BUT IT GETS BACK TO WHY WE DON'T TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT AND BUT IT GETS BACK TO WHY WE DON'T TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

DON'T TRUST OUR GOVERNMENT AND PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

CONGRESS DOESN'T WORK MANY PUBLIC OFFICIALS.

CONGRESS DOESN'T WORK MANY DAYS.

CONGRESS DOESN'T WORK MANY DAYS.

ONLY -- IT'S A VERY PART-TIME DAYS.

ONLY -- IT'S A VERY PART-TIME CONGRESS.

ONLY -- IT'S A VERY PART-TIME CONGRESS.

THEY PASS FEWER BILLS THIS YEAR CONGRESS.

THEY PASS FEWER BILLS THIS YEAR THAN ANY OTHER CONGRESS IN THEY PASS FEWER BILLS THIS YEAR THAN ANY OTHER CONGRESS IN RECENT YEARS.

THAN ANY OTHER CONGRESS IN RECENT YEARS.

>> BUT POLITICS -- THERE WAS AN RECENT YEARS.

>> BUT POLITICS -- THERE WAS AN OP-ED IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" >> BUT POLITICS -- THERE WAS AN OP-ED IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" BY TRENT LOT AND TOM DASCHLE, OP-ED IN "THE WASHINGTON POST" BY TRENT LOT AND TOM DASCHLE, BOTH FORMER SENATE MAJORITY BY TRENT LOT AND TOM DASCHLE, BOTH FORMER SENATE MAJORITY LEADERS AND WE USED TO MEASURE BOTH FORMER SENATE MAJORITY LEADERS AND WE USED TO MEASURE OURSELVES BUT WHAT WE COULD GET LEADERS AND WE USED TO MEASURE OURSELVES BUT WHAT WE COULD GET DONE.

OURSELVES BUT WHAT WE COULD GET DONE.

AND NOW IT DOES SEEM LIKE DONE.

AND NOW IT DOES SEEM LIKE EVERYTHING IN WASHINGTON IS AND NOW IT DOES SEEM LIKE EVERYTHING IN WASHINGTON IS GEARED TOWARD WHAT YOU CAN EVERYTHING IN WASHINGTON IS GEARED TOWARD WHAT YOU CAN STOP.

GEARED TOWARD WHAT YOU CAN STOP.

>> SUCH A GAME OF WHO GOT WHO STOP.

>> SUCH A GAME OF WHO GOT WHO THAT -- THE EMAIL TRAFFIC FROM >> SUCH A GAME OF WHO GOT WHO THAT -- THE EMAIL TRAFFIC FROM THE POLITICAL PARTIES AND THE THAT -- THE EMAIL TRAFFIC FROM THE POLITICAL PARTIES AND THE SENATOR OFFICES AND EVEN THE THE POLITICAL PARTIES AND THE SENATOR OFFICES AND EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEIR ALLIES, SENATOR OFFICES AND EVEN THE WHITE HOUSE AND THEIR ALLIES, IS ALWAYS ABOUT LOOK WHAT WHITE HOUSE AND THEIR ALLIES, IS ALWAYS ABOUT LOOK WHAT SOMEBODY SAID.

IS ALWAYS ABOUT LOOK WHAT SOMEBODY SAID.

AND ISN'T THIS REALLY AN SOMEBODY SAID.

AND ISN'T THIS REALLY AN OUTRAGE HERE?

AND ISN'T THIS REALLY AN OUTRAGE HERE?

GWEN: WHICH BRINGS -- OUTRAGE HERE?

GWEN: WHICH BRINGS -- >> ABOUT WHO'S AHEAD AND WHO'S GWEN: WHICH BRINGS -- >> ABOUT WHO'S AHEAD AND WHO'S BEHIND?

>> ABOUT WHO'S AHEAD AND WHO'S BEHIND?

GWEN: THIS QUESTION FROM JULIE BEHIND?

GWEN: THIS QUESTION FROM JULIE IN ILLINOIS WHO'S CONCERNED GWEN: THIS QUESTION FROM JULIE IN ILLINOIS WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BASIC IDEA THAT IN ILLINOIS WHO'S CONCERNED ABOUT THIS BASIC IDEA THAT WASHINGTON JUST ISN'T WORKING.

ABOUT THIS BASIC IDEA THAT WASHINGTON JUST ISN'T WORKING.

LET'S LISTEN.

WASHINGTON JUST ISN'T WORKING.

LET'S LISTEN.

>> I THINK RIGHT NOW, WHAT LET'S LISTEN.

>> I THINK RIGHT NOW, WHAT WORRIES ME MOST IS THE SENSE OF >> I THINK RIGHT NOW, WHAT WORRIES ME MOST IS THE SENSE OF DIVISIVENESS WE HAVE.

WORRIES ME MOST IS THE SENSE OF DIVISIVENESS WE HAVE.

AND THE INABILITY OF FOLKS TO DIVISIVENESS WE HAVE.

AND THE INABILITY OF FOLKS TO SEE THINGS FROM OTHER POINTS OF AND THE INABILITY OF FOLKS TO SEE THINGS FROM OTHER POINTS OF VIEW.

SEE THINGS FROM OTHER POINTS OF VIEW.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BECOMING A VIEW.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BECOMING A NATION OF SINGLE INTERESTS.

IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BECOMING A NATION OF SINGLE INTERESTS.

GWEN: MICHAEL.

NATION OF SINGLE INTERESTS.

GWEN: MICHAEL.

>> I CITE THE GREAT HOUSE GWEN: MICHAEL.

>> I CITE THE GREAT HOUSE DISTRICT, PROGNOSTICATOR >> I CITE THE GREAT HOUSE DISTRICT, PROGNOSTICATOR CHARLIE COOK WHO IN HIS MOST DISTRICT, PROGNOSTICATOR CHARLIE COOK WHO IN HIS MOST RECENT RUNDOWN OF THE 435 HOUSE CHARLIE COOK WHO IN HIS MOST RECENT RUNDOWN OF THE 435 HOUSE RACES IN 2014, LIST EXACTLY 14 RECENT RUNDOWN OF THE 435 HOUSE RACES IN 2014, LIST EXACTLY 14 THAT ARE TOSSUPS.

RACES IN 2014, LIST EXACTLY 14 THAT ARE TOSSUPS.

14.

THAT ARE TOSSUPS.

14.

LESS THAN -- ABOUT 3%.

14.

LESS THAN -- ABOUT 3%.

AND IF YOU THROW IN THE LESS THAN -- ABOUT 3%.

AND IF YOU THROW IN THE LIKELIES AND MAYBES YOU MIGHT AND IF YOU THROW IN THE LIKELIES AND MAYBES YOU MIGHT GET 20% AT MOST.

LIKELIES AND MAYBES YOU MIGHT GET 20% AT MOST.

BUT THIS IS NOW VERY TYPICAL.

GET 20% AT MOST.

BUT THIS IS NOW VERY TYPICAL.

VERY FEW CONTESTS ACTUALLY SEE BUT THIS IS NOW VERY TYPICAL.

VERY FEW CONTESTS ACTUALLY SEE -- ARE UP FOR GRABS.

VERY FEW CONTESTS ACTUALLY SEE -- ARE UP FOR GRABS.

IT'S A HIGHLY DIVIDED MAP, -- ARE UP FOR GRABS.

IT'S A HIGHLY DIVIDED MAP, POLITICAL MAP.

IT'S A HIGHLY DIVIDED MAP, POLITICAL MAP.

BOTH PARTIES HAVE SEEN TO IT POLITICAL MAP.

BOTH PARTIES HAVE SEEN TO IT THAT ALL THEIR SEATS ARE SAFE BOTH PARTIES HAVE SEEN TO IT THAT ALL THEIR SEATS ARE SAFE AND NOT ANY RACES THAT MATTER THAT ALL THEIR SEATS ARE SAFE AND NOT ANY RACES THAT MATTER BUT THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR AND NOT ANY RACES THAT MATTER BUT THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR CONVERSATION.

BUT THERE'S REALLY NO NEED FOR CONVERSATION.

BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE CONVERSATION.

BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE THINK.

BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT WE THINK.

AND WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO THINK.

AND WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO CONTEST IN THE MIDDLE.

AND WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO CONTEST IN THE MIDDLE.

AND MAKES IT ALL THE HARDER CONTEST IN THE MIDDLE.

AND MAKES IT ALL THE HARDER BECAUSE WHAT MONEY -- WHICH IS AND MAKES IT ALL THE HARDER BECAUSE WHAT MONEY -- WHICH IS POURING INTO THIS AND POURS BECAUSE WHAT MONEY -- WHICH IS POURING INTO THIS AND POURS INTO A FEWER NUMBER OF RACES.

POURING INTO THIS AND POURS INTO A FEWER NUMBER OF RACES.

>> WHAT'S STRIKING, TOO, IF YOU INTO A FEWER NUMBER OF RACES.

>> WHAT'S STRIKING, TOO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXECUTIVE SIDE OF >> WHAT'S STRIKING, TOO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE EXECUTIVE SIDE OF THINGS, THE LAST THREE LOOK AT THE EXECUTIVE SIDE OF THINGS, THE LAST THREE PRESIDENTS HAVE ALL PROMISED TO THINGS, THE LAST THREE PRESIDENTS HAVE ALL PROMISED TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

PRESIDENTS HAVE ALL PROMISED TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

THAT WAS THEIR PITCH.

BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

THAT WAS THEIR PITCH.

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON FAMOUSLY THAT WAS THEIR PITCH.

PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON FAMOUSLY TALKED ABOUT REPAIRING THE PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON FAMOUSLY TALKED ABOUT REPAIRING THE BREACH.

TALKED ABOUT REPAIRING THE BREACH.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH TALKED BREACH.

PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH TALKED ABOUT BEING A UNITER AND NOT A PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH TALKED ABOUT BEING A UNITER AND NOT A DIVIDER AND PRESIDENT BARACK ABOUT BEING A UNITER AND NOT A DIVIDER AND PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WOULD BE POST PARTISAN DIVIDER AND PRESIDENT BARACK OBAMA WOULD BE POST PARTISAN AND REACH ACROSS.

OBAMA WOULD BE POST PARTISAN AND REACH ACROSS.

AND ALL THREE HAVE -- BREAKING AND REACH ACROSS.

AND ALL THREE HAVE -- BREAKING THE FEVER AND ALL THREE HAVE AND ALL THREE HAVE -- BREAKING THE FEVER AND ALL THREE HAVE EITHER SUCCUMBED TO THE FEVER THE FEVER AND ALL THREE HAVE EITHER SUCCUMBED TO THE FEVER OR BEEN TRAPPED BY THE FEVER OR EITHER SUCCUMBED TO THE FEVER OR BEEN TRAPPED BY THE FEVER OR -- OR BEEN TRAPPED BY THE FEVER OR -- >> FED THE FEVER.

-- >> FED THE FEVER.

>> FED THE FEVER, EXACTLY.

>> FED THE FEVER.

>> FED THE FEVER, EXACTLY.

AND BECOME VERY POLARIZING >> FED THE FEVER, EXACTLY.

AND BECOME VERY POLARIZING FIGURES IN WASHINGTON.

AND BECOME VERY POLARIZING FIGURES IN WASHINGTON.

GWEN: TIME FOR ONE MORE FIGURES IN WASHINGTON.

GWEN: TIME FOR ONE MORE THOUGHT.

GWEN: TIME FOR ONE MORE THOUGHT.

>> THE REAL REASON IS THERE ARE THOUGHT.

>> THE REAL REASON IS THERE ARE SO FEW DISTRICTS NOW, >> THE REAL REASON IS THERE ARE SO FEW DISTRICTS NOW, REDISTRICTING THAT WAS DONE BY SO FEW DISTRICTS NOW, REDISTRICTING THAT WAS DONE BY COMPUTER, NOT DONE BY POLITICAL REDISTRICTING THAT WAS DONE BY COMPUTER, NOT DONE BY POLITICAL PARTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, COMPUTER, NOT DONE BY POLITICAL PARTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT IS THE WAY TO BREAK THE PARTIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, THAT IS THE WAY TO BREAK THE FEVER TO CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF THAT IS THE WAY TO BREAK THE FEVER TO CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF CONGRESS.

FEVER TO CHANGE THE MAKEUP OF CONGRESS.

YOU'RE SEEING IT IN CALIFORNIA CONGRESS.

YOU'RE SEEING IT IN CALIFORNIA AND IOWA NOW.

YOU'RE SEEING IT IN CALIFORNIA AND IOWA NOW.

IF OTHER STATES ACROSS THE AND IOWA NOW.

IF OTHER STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY START CHANGING HOW THEY IF OTHER STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY START CHANGING HOW THEY REDISTRICT, I THINK THAT COULD COUNTRY START CHANGING HOW THEY REDISTRICT, I THINK THAT COULD BREAK THE FEVER.

REDISTRICT, I THINK THAT COULD BREAK THE FEVER.

BUT DON'T LOOK FOR IT NEXT BREAK THE FEVER.

BUT DON'T LOOK FOR IT NEXT YEAR.

BUT DON'T LOOK FOR IT NEXT YEAR.

GWEN: THAT'S THE FINAL THOUGHT YEAR.

GWEN: THAT'S THE FINAL THOUGHT BUT ONE MORE FOR YOU.

GWEN: THAT'S THE FINAL THOUGHT BUT ONE MORE FOR YOU.

DO YOU SEE THE FEVER BREAKING?

BUT ONE MORE FOR YOU.

DO YOU SEE THE FEVER BREAKING?

IN 2014?

DO YOU SEE THE FEVER BREAKING?

IN 2014?

>> NOT IN 2014.

IN 2014?

>> NOT IN 2014.

NO.

>> NOT IN 2014.

NO.

GWEN: WELL, THAT'S OPTIMISTIC.

NO.

GWEN: WELL, THAT'S OPTIMISTIC.

A WAY TO END IT.

GWEN: WELL, THAT'S OPTIMISTIC.

A WAY TO END IT.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTIONS A WAY TO END IT.

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