GWEN: BIG NEWS THIS WEEK ON POLITICS, THE LAW AND FOREIGN POLITICS, THE LAW AND FOREIGN POLICY.

POLICY.

AND WEVE GOT ABSOLUTELY THE AND WEVE GOT ABSOLUTELY THE BEST IN THE BUSINESS TO HELP BEST IN THE BUSINESS TO HELP YOU MAKE SENSE OF IT.

YOU MAKE SENSE OF IT.

TONIGHT, ON "WASHINGTON TONIGHT, ON "WASHINGTON WEEK."

WEEK."

>> WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO BE >> WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO BE PROUD OF OUR STATE TONIGHT.

PROUD OF OUR STATE TONIGHT.

GWEN: A SERIOUSLY NGALLENGE.

GWEN: A SERIOUSLY NGALLENGE.

>> I SHOULDNT HAVE SAID THE >> I SHOULDNT HAVE SAID THE FIVE OR SO WORDS THAT I SAID, FIVE OR SO WORDS THAT I SAID, BUT MY INARTFUL USE OF THOSE BUT MY INARTFUL USE OF THOSE FEW WORDS DOESNT CHANGE WHO I FEW WORDS DOESNT CHANGE WHO I AM.

AM.

GWEN: A LIKELY CANDIDATE FOR GWEN: A LIKELY CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT TRIES TO CLEAN UP A PRESIDENT TRIES TO CLEAN UP A MISSTEP.

MISSTEP.

AND THE ELECTION SEASON IS OFF AND THE ELECTION SEASON IS OFF TO A ROARING START.

TO A ROARING START.

AT THE SUPREME COURT, MAJOR AT THE SUPREME COURT, MAJOR RULINGS ON THE LIMITS OF RULINGS ON THE LIMITS OF PROTEST, TECHNOLOGY, AND PROTEST, TECHNOLOGY, AND EXECUTIVE POWER.

EXECUTIVE POWER.

>> PRAISE THEN TODAY TO THE >> PRAISE THEN TODAY TO THE SUPREME COURT FOR FORCING THE SUPREME COURT FOR FORCING THE PRESIDENT TO CONFRONT THE ERROR PRESIDENT TO CONFRONT THE ERROR OF HIS WAYS.

OF HIS WAYS.

GWEN: PLUS, A CLOSE UP ANALYSIS GWEN: PLUS, A CLOSE UP ANALYSIS OF THE UPHEAVAL IN IRAQ.

OF THE UPHEAVAL IN IRAQ.

COVERING THE WEEK, NEAR AND COVERING THE WEEK, NEAR AND FAR, DAN BALZ OF "THE FAR, DAN BALZ OF "THE WASHINGTON POST,"OAN JBISKUPIC WASHINGTON POST,"OAN JBISKUPIC OF REUTERS, PETE WILLIAMS OF OF REUTERS, PETE WILLIAMS OF NBC NEWS, AND MARTHA RADDATZ OF NBC NEWS, AND MARTHA RADDATZ OF ABC NEWS.

ABC NEWS.

>> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND >> AWARD WINNING REPORTING AND ANALYSIS COVERING HISTORY AS IT ANALYSIS COVERING HISTORY AS IT HAPPENS.

HAPPENS.

LIVE FROM OUR NATIONS CAPITOL.

LIVE FROM OUR NATIONS CAPITOL.

THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH THIS IS "WASHINGTON WEEK WITH GWEN IFILL."

ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN WASHINGTON, MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.

IFILL.

GWEN: GOOD EVENING.

GWEN: GOOD EVENING.

WHAT A WEEK FOR POLITICS, AS WHAT A WEEK FOR POLITICS, AS THAD COCHRAN PULLED OFF A THAD COCHRAN PULLED OFF A LAZARUS-LIKE VICTORY IN LAZARUS-LIKE VICTORY IN MISSISSIPPI, AND HILLARY MISSISSIPPI, AND HILLARY CLINTON, STAGED A KIND OF CLINTON, STAGED A KIND OF SUPERMARKET CLEAN UP ON AISLE SUPERMARKET CLEAN UP ON AISLE THREE OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

THREE OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP.

YOU CANT MAKE THIS STUFF UP.

AND FORTUNATELY, DAN BALZ AND FORTUNATELY, DAN BALZ DOESNT HE TOAV.

DOESNT HE TOAV.

DID COCHRANS SURPRISE VICTORY DID COCHRANS SURPRISE VICTORY EXPLODE YET ANOTHER THEORY EXPLODE YET ANOTHER THEORY ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS AND TEA ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS AND TEA PARTY AND EVERYTHING WE HAD PARTY AND EVERYTHING WE HAD DECIDED ON EARLIER IN THE YEAR?

DECIDED ON EARLIER IN THE YEAR?

>> IT DIDN'T EXPLODE IT, IT >> IT DIDN'T EXPLODE IT, IT BROUGHT IT KIND OF BACK TO BROUGHT IT KIND OF BACK TO EARTH.

EARTH.

I THINK IT TOLD US A LOT ABOUT I THINK IT TOLD US A LOT ABOUT MISSISSIPPI.

MISSISSIPPI.

MISSISSIPPI IS ONE OF THE MOST MISSISSIPPI IS ONE OF THE MOST CONSERVATIVE STATES IN THE CONSERVATIVE STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.

IT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF IT ALSO HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF THE POOREST STATES IN THE THE POOREST STATES IN THE COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.

THAD COCHRAN SURVIVED A VERY THAD COCHRAN SURVIVED A VERY TOUGH CHALLENGE BY TOUGH CHALLENGE BY UNDERSTANDING AND EXPLOITING UNDERSTANDING AND EXPLOITING THE REALITY THAT MISSISSIPPI THE REALITY THAT MISSISSIPPI RELIES HEAVILY ON THE FEDERAL RELIES HEAVILY ON THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT FOR ASSISTANCE AND GOVERNMENT FOR ASSISTANCE AND ATE.

ATE.

HE DID NOT BACK AWAY FROM THAT.

HE DID NOT BACK AWAY FROM THAT.

THIS WAS THE CLIMACTIC BATTLE THIS WAS THE CLIMACTIC BATTLE BETWEEN THE TEA PARTY AND THE BETWEEN THE TEA PARTY AND THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

PARTY.

DANIELS, A YOUNG STATE SENATOR, DANIELS, A YOUNG STATE SENATOR, WAS AHEAD AFTER THE FIRST ROUND WAS AHEAD AFTER THE FIRST ROUND OF VOTING, LED IN THE PRIMARY OF VOTING, LED IN THE PRIMARY BUT NEITHER GOT 50%.

BUT NEITHER GOT 50%.

THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE THEY HAD TO GO THROUGH THE SECOND ROUND.

SECOND ROUND.

HE WAS ABLE TO DEFY THE ODDS.

HE WAS ABLE TO DEFY THE ODDS.

HE WAS THE UNDERDOG AT THIS HE WAS THE UNDERDOG AT THIS POINT AND ALSO DEFY HISTORY.

POINT AND ALSO DEFY HISTORY.

THE ASSUMPTION IS IN A RUNOFF, THE ASSUMPTION IS IN A RUNOFF, TURNOUT GOES DOWN.

TURNOUT GOES DOWN.

HIS STRATEGY WAS WE WERE GOING HIS STRATEGY WAS WE WERE GOING TO TRY TO BOOST TURNOUT.

TO TRY TO BOOST TURNOUT.

IN FACT, TURNOUT ACROSS THE IN FACT, TURNOUT ACROSS THE STATE WENT UP 20%.

STATE WENT UP 20%.

IT WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY MORE IT WENT UP SIGNIFICANTLY MORE IN SOME OF HIS BEST COUNTIES.

IN SOME OF HIS BEST COUNTIES.

GWEN: HOW DID HE DO THAT GWEN: HOW DID HE DO THAT SPECIFICALLY?

SPECIFICALLY?

VERY UNORTHODOX APPROACH TO VERY UNORTHODOX APPROACH TO THIS.

THIS.

DRILL DOWN AND TELL US EXACTLY DRILL DOWN AND TELL US EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

WHAT HE DID.

>> HE DID TWO THINGS, ONE WHICH >> HE DID TWO THINGS, ONE WHICH GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT GOES COMPLETELY AGAINST WHAT YOU WOULD EXPECT IN A YOU WOULD EXPECT IN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

HE REACHED OUT TO DEMOCRATS AND HE REACHED OUT TO DEMOCRATS AND PARTICULARLY AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

PARTICULARLY AFRICAN-AMERICANS.

HE HAS -- HE HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE HE HAS -- HE HAS BEEN EFFECTIVE IN DELIVERING, AS I SAID, A LOT IN DELIVERING, AS I SAID, A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE STATE AND HE OF MONEY INTO THE STATE AND HE RALLIED THE ESTABLISHMENT RALLIED THE ESTABLISHMENT BEHIND HIM, BLACK AND WHITE, TO BEHIND HIM, BLACK AND WHITE, TO TRY TO HELP HIM AND SAVE HIM.

TRY TO HELP HIM AND SAVE HIM.

THEY TURNED OUT A SIGNIFICANT THEY TURNED OUT A SIGNIFICANT BLACK VOTE IN THE RUNOFF.

BLACK VOTE IN THE RUNOFF.

I MEAN, THE COUNTIES THAT ARE I MEAN, THE COUNTIES THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN PREDOMINANTLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN HAD A HIGHER INCREASE IN HAD A HIGHER INCREASE IN TURNOUT THAN DID THE COUNTIES TURNOUT THAN DID THE COUNTIES THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE.

THAT ARE PREDOMINANTLY WHITE.

GWEN: 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF GWEN: 50TH ANNIVERSARY OF FREEDOM SUMMER WHEN THEY WENT FREEDOM SUMMER WHEN THEY WENT DOWN TO REGISTER BLACK VOTERS.

DOWN TO REGISTER BLACK VOTERS.

IRONIES ABOUND.

IRONIES ABOUND.

>> ANOTHER THING HE DID AND >> ANOTHER THING HE DID AND THIS WAS, THIS WAS FORESHADOWED THIS WAS, THIS WAS FORESHADOWED THE DAY AFTER THE PRIMARY, I THE DAY AFTER THE PRIMARY, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HALEY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HALEY BARBER, THE FORMER GOVERNOR.

BARBER, THE FORMER GOVERNOR.

HE SAID WE WERE GOING TO FIND HE SAID WE WERE GOING TO FIND REPUBLICANS WHO THOUGHT THAT HE REPUBLICANS WHO THOUGHT THAT HE WAS OK AND THEREFORE DIDN'T WAS OK AND THEREFORE DIDN'T COME OUT TO VOTE AND THERE ARE COME OUT TO VOTE AND THERE ARE PLACES IN THE STATE WHERE PLACES IN THE STATE WHERE ALMOST ORGANICALLY WITHOUT THE ALMOST ORGANICALLY WITHOUT THE DIRECT HELP OF THE CAMPAIGN, DIRECT HELP OF THE CAMPAIGN, BUT WITH THE HELP OF PEOPLE WHO BUT WITH THE HELP OF PEOPLE WHO ARE PART OF THE REPUBLICAN ARE PART OF THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT, THEY WENT OUT ESTABLISHMENT, THEY WENT OUT AND GOT REPUBLICAN VOTERS.

AND GOT REPUBLICAN VOTERS.

GWEN: WELL, DAN, ON THE TEA GWEN: WELL, DAN, ON THE TEA PARTY VERSUS THE ESTABLISHMENT, PARTY VERSUS THE ESTABLISHMENT, YOU SAID THERE WAS THIS YOU SAID THERE WAS THIS CLIMACTIC BATTLE.

CLIMACTIC BATTLE.

WHAT WILL WE SEE GOING FORWARD WHAT WILL WE SEE GOING FORWARD FOR THE TEA PARTY?

FOR THE TEA PARTY?

>> WE ARE NOT LIKELY TO SEE A >> WE ARE NOT LIKELY TO SEE A CHALLENGE IN A PRIMARY THIS CHALLENGE IN A PRIMARY THIS YEAR THAT HAS ANY KIND OF YEAR THAT HAS ANY KIND OF RESONANCE IN THE WAY THIS HAD.

RESONANCE IN THE WAY THIS HAD.

THE TEA PARTY HAS LOST JUST THE TEA PARTY HAS LOST JUST ABOUT ALL OF THESE BATTLES THIS ABOUT ALL OF THESE BATTLES THIS YEAR.

YEAR.

YET IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE OF YET IF YOU LOOK AT THE STATE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, IT IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, IT IS STILL A PARTY THAT IS SPLIT STILL A PARTY THAT IS SPLIT BETWEEN ESTABLISHMENT AND BETWEEN ESTABLISHMENT AND INSURGENTS OR POPULOUS INSURGENTS OR POPULOUS CONSERVATIVES AND THE BUSINESS CONSERVATIVES AND THE BUSINESS WING.

WING.

I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING I DON'T THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE A DIMINUTION OF THAT IN TO SEE A DIMINUTION OF THAT IN THE NEAR FUTURE JUST BECAUSE OF THE NEAR FUTURE JUST BECAUSE OF THE WAY THE RACES CAME OUT.

THE WAY THE RACES CAME OUT.

GWEN: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE GWEN: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR A MOMENT.

DEMOCRAT PARTY FOR A MOMENT.

IN MY CONVERSATION THIS WEEK IN MY CONVERSATION THIS WEEK WITH HILLARY CLINTON, THE WITH HILLARY CLINTON, THE ORMER SECRETARY OF STATE ORMER SECRETARY OF STATE UNVEILED A NEW REASON FOR UNVEILED A NEW REASON FOR DELAYING HER DECISION ABOUT DELAYING HER DECISION ABOUT WHETHER TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

WHETHER TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

CALL IT THE GRANDMOTHER CALL IT THE GRANDMOTHER DEFENSE.

DEFENSE.

>> I HAVE NO ILLUSIONS.

>> I HAVE NO ILLUSIONS.

I PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER IDEA I PROBABLY HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHAT IT TAKES BOTH TO WIN OF WHAT IT TAKES BOTH TO WIN AND TO GOVERN THAN MANY PEOPLE AND TO GOVERN THAN MANY PEOPLE WHO MIGHT CHOOSE TO SEEK THE WHO MIGHT CHOOSE TO SEEK THE JOB.

JOB.

AND I ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU AND I ALSO KNOW THAT WHEN YOU MAKE THAT DECISION, IF ITS A MAKE THAT DECISION, IF ITS A GO DECISION, TRES HENOTHING GO DECISION, TRES HENOTHING ELSE.

ELSE.

THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO THAT IS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO FULL SPEED.

FULL SPEED.

I DONT WANT TO BE LOOKING OVER I DONT WANT TO BE LOOKING OVER MY NEW GRANDCHILDS SHOULDER, MY NEW GRANDCHILDS SHOULDER, WONDERING WHATS HAPPENING IN WONDERING WHATS HAPPENING IN STATE X OR Y, I WANT TO BE STATE X OR Y, I WANT TO BE FULLY ENGAGED.

FULLY ENGAGED.

AND THEN AS IVE SAID MANY AND THEN AS IVE SAID MANY TIMES, YOU KNOW, TOWARD THE END TIMES, YOU KNOW, TOWARD THE END OF THE YEAR I WILL SIT DOWN AND OF THE YEAR I WILL SIT DOWN AND TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF MY TRY TO MAKE SENSE OF MY CONFLICTED FEELINGS.

CONFLICTED FEELINGS.

GWEN: IT'S NOT THE CONFLICTED GWEN: IT'S NOT THE CONFLICTED FEELINGS THAT IS A PROBLEM.

FEELINGS THAT IS A PROBLEM.

IT'S THE BUBBLE PROBLEM THIS IT'S THE BUBBLE PROBLEM THIS WEEK.

WEEK.

>> SHE HAS PUBLISHED A LARGE >> SHE HAS PUBLISHED A LARGE BOOK ON FOREIGN POLICY IN FOUR BOOK ON FOREIGN POLICY IN FOUR YEARS AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT.

YEARS AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT.

SHE HAS SPENT MUCH OF THE THREE SHE HAS SPENT MUCH OF THE THREE WEEKS EXPLAINING HOW THE WEEKS EXPLAINING HOW THE CLINTONS BECAME SO WELL THINK CLINTONS BECAME SO WELL THINK OVER THE LAST DECADE.

OVER THE LAST DECADE.

THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT SHE DIDN'T EXPECT.

DIDN'T EXPECT.

SHE WALKED HERSELF INTO IT.

SHE WALKED HERSELF INTO IT.

SHE HAS STRUGGLED AS SHE DID SHE HAS STRUGGLED AS SHE DID WITH YOU TO TRY TO GET HERSELF WITH YOU TO TRY TO GET HERSELF OUT OF IT.

OUT OF IT.

GWEN: SAYING SHE IS DEAD BROKE?

GWEN: SAYING SHE IS DEAD BROKE?

>> SHE SAID AT ONE POINT, THEY >> SHE SAID AT ONE POINT, THEY WERE DEAD BROKE COMING OUT OF WERE DEAD BROKE COMING OUT OF THE WHITE HOUSE.

THE WHITE HOUSE.

THEY WERE IN DEBT, TO BE FAIR.

THEY WERE IN DEBT, TO BE FAIR.

THEY HAD PLENTY OF EARNING THEY HAD PLENTY OF EARNING OPTIONS.

OPTIONS.

GWEN: PLENTY OF POTENTIAL GWEN: PLENTY OF POTENTIAL THERE.

THERE.

>> SHE SAID TO THE GUARDIAN >> SHE SAID TO THE GUARDIAN NEWSPAPER THAT THEY WERE NOT NEWSPAPER THAT THEY WERE NOT TRULY WELL OFF COMPARED TO SOME TRULY WELL OFF COMPARED TO SOME OTHER PEOPLE.

OTHER PEOPLE.

A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE HAPPY A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD BE HAPPY TO BE AS WELL OFF AS THEY ARE.

TO BE AS WELL OFF AS THEY ARE.

AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A KIND OF AND SO THERE HAS BEEN A KIND OF GONE DEAFNESS AS SHE HAS GONE DEAFNESS AS SHE HAS AROUND AND STRUGGLING TO MAKE AROUND AND STRUGGLING TO MAKE IT WHOLE.

IT WHOLE.

>> WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?

>> WHERE DOES IT COME FROM?

SHE HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC LIFE A SHE HAS BEEN IN PUBLIC LIFE A WHILE.

WHILE.

WHY IS THAT HAPPENING?

WHY IS THAT HAPPENING?

>> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN >> A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN THE GENERAL CLINTON JUROR BIT THE GENERAL CLINTON JUROR BIT WHO WOULD COUNT THEMSELVES AS WHO WOULD COUNT THEMSELVES AS CLINTON LOYALISTS OR SUPPORTERS CLINTON LOYALISTS OR SUPPORTERS HAVE BEEN SHOCKED BY THIS.

HAVE BEEN SHOCKED BY THIS.

I THINK THEY FELT SHE WAS I THINK THEY FELT SHE WAS UNPREPARED, THAT SHE SHOULD UNPREPARED, THAT SHE SHOULD HAVE HAD A BETTER ANSWER TO HAVE HAD A BETTER ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION WHEN IT WAS FIRST THAT QUESTION WHEN IT WAS FIRST ASKED.

ASKED.

SHE COULD HAVE PUT IT AWAY SHE COULD HAVE PUT IT AWAY EARLY ON AND MOVED ON TO WHAT EARLY ON AND MOVED ON TO WHAT SHE REALLY WANTED TO TALK SHE REALLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT.

ABOUT.

I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S HARD TO GET INSIDE IT'S HARD TO GET INSIDE SOMEBODY'S HEAD, YOU HAVE TO SOMEBODY'S HEAD, YOU HAVE TO THINK THAT SHE HAS A PERCEPTION THINK THAT SHE HAS A PERCEPTION OF HERSELF AND HER HUSBAND AND OF HERSELF AND HER HUSBAND AND THE LIVES THEY LED THAT LOOKS THE LIVES THEY LED THAT LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES TO DIFFERENT THAN IT DOES TO PEOPLE WHO LOOK AND SAY, WAIT A PEOPLE WHO LOOK AND SAY, WAIT A MINUTE, THEY GET $225,000 TO MINUTE, THEY GET $225,000 TO GIVE A SPEECH?

GIVE A SPEECH?

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST THAT'S SOMETHING THAT MOST ORDINARY AMERICANS CAN'T QUITE ORDINARY AMERICANS CAN'T QUITE GRASP.

GRASP.

GWEN: IT'S BETTER TO STUMBLE GWEN: IT'S BETTER TO STUMBLE NOW THAN A YEAR FROM NOW.

NOW THAN A YEAR FROM NOW.

THAT MAY BE A PART OF WHAT IS THAT MAY BE A PART OF WHAT IS GOING ON TOO.

GOING ON TOO.

LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SUPREME LET'S MOVE ON TO THE SUPREME COURT.

COURT.

THERE WAS SO MUCH GOING ON AT THERE WAS SO MUCH GOING ON AT THE SUPREME COURT THIS WEEK WE THE SUPREME COURT THIS WEEK WE HAD TO CUT THE STORY IN HALF.

HAD TO CUT THE STORY IN HALF.

FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE BOTH PETE FORTUNATELY, WE HAVE BOTH PETE AND JOAN HERE TO HELP.

AND JOAN HERE TO HELP.

FIRST TO TWO UNANIMOUS FIRST TO TWO UNANIMOUS DECISIONS, ONE ON ABORTION DECISIONS, ONE ON ABORTION PROTESTS AND THE OTHER ON PROTESTS AND THE OTHER ON CELLPHONE PRIVACY.

CELLPHONE PRIVACY.

IT TURNS OUT POLICE NEED A IT TURNS OUT POLICE NEED A WARRANT TO GET ACCESS TO THE WARRANT TO GET ACCESS TO THE TREASURE TROVE OF INFORMATION TREASURE TROVE OF INFORMATION WE NOW STORE ON OUR SMART WE NOW STORE ON OUR SMART PHONES.

PHONES.

JOAN?

JOAN?

>> YES, THE SUPREME COURT SAYS >> YES, THE SUPREME COURT SAYS WHEN YOU ARE ARRESTED, WHEN WHEN YOU ARE ARRESTED, WHEN ANYONE IS ARRESTED, THE POLICE ANYONE IS ARRESTED, THE POLICE CANNOT AUTOMATICALLY SEARCH THE CANNOT AUTOMATICALLY SEARCH THE CONTENTS OF A CELL PHONE LIKE CONTENTS OF A CELL PHONE LIKE OTHER THINGS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON OTHER THINGS YOU MIGHT HAVE ON YOU, ANYTHING IN YOUR POCKS, YOU, ANYTHING IN YOUR POCKS, CRUMPLED UP CIGARETTE EVIDENCE, CRUMPLED UP CIGARETTE EVIDENCE, ANYTHING TO LOOK FOR EVIDENCE ANYTHING TO LOOK FOR EVIDENCE OR TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AREN'T OR TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU AREN'T CARRYING ANYTHING THAT IS CARRYING ANYTHING THAT IS HARMFUL AND WOULD HURT TO HARMFUL AND WOULD HURT TO POLICE.

POLICE.

YOU REFER TO THE TREASURE TROVE YOU REFER TO THE TREASURE TROVE OF INFORMATION THERE.

OF INFORMATION THERE.

THE JUSTICES DEMONSTRATED THEY THE JUSTICES DEMONSTRATED THEY REALLY GOT SMART PHONES.

REALLY GOT SMART PHONES.

THEY WERE SMART ABOUT THEM.

THEY WERE SMART ABOUT THEM.

THERE WAS COMMENTARY WHERE THE THERE WAS COMMENTARY WHERE THE CHIEF JUSTICE SAID WHO WOULD CHIEF JUSTICE SAID WHO WOULD HAVE TWO OF THESE KIND OF HAVE TWO OF THESE KIND OF PHONES?

PHONES?

A COUPLE OF HIS COLLEAGUES A COUPLE OF HIS COLLEAGUES ACTUALLY HAVE TWO CELL PHONES ACTUALLY HAVE TWO CELL PHONES FOR WORK AND FOR PERSONAL FOR WORK AND FOR PERSONAL BUSINESS.

BUSINESS.

SHE SAID LATER THAT A FEW OF SHE SAID LATER THAT A FEW OF THEM DID SET THE CHIEF JUSTICE THEM DID SET THE CHIEF JUSTICE STRAIGHT ON THAT.

STRAIGHT ON THAT.

THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE OPINION, THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE OPINION, WHICH WAS UNANIMOUS AS YOU WHICH WAS UNANIMOUS AS YOU SAID, THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF SAID, THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF REFERENCES TO EVERYTHING THAT REFERENCES TO EVERYTHING THAT CAN BE FOUND ON A PHONE THESE CAN BE FOUND ON A PHONE THESE DAYS.

DAYS.

YOU COULD HAVE A CAMERA, VIDEO YOU COULD HAVE A CAMERA, VIDEO CAPABILITIES, A DIARY, ALL OF CAPABILITIES, A DIARY, ALL OF YOUR LETTERS.

YOUR LETTERS.

THE CHIEF JUSTICE GOT OFF GREAT THE CHIEF JUSTICE GOT OFF GREAT LINES ABOUT WHO WOULD BE LINES ABOUT WHO WOULD BE CARRYING AROUND EVERY LETTER CARRYING AROUND EVERY LETTER THAT HE OR SHE RECEIVES AND THAT HE OR SHE RECEIVES AND EVERYTHING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A EVERYTHING, YOU HAVE TO HAVE A TRUNK WITH YOU.

TRUNK WITH YOU.

THE POINT WAS THAT THEY DECIDED THE POINT WAS THAT THEY DECIDED THAT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT THAT THE FOURTH AMENDMENT ACTUALLY COVERS THESE THINGS IN ACTUALLY COVERS THESE THINGS IN A DIFFICULT WAY THAN THEY WOULD A DIFFICULT WAY THAN THEY WOULD SOMETHING PHYSICAL.

SOMETHING PHYSICAL.

>> WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, IF >> WHAT DOES THIS MEAN, IF ANYTHING, FOR THE WHOLE ANYTHING, FOR THE WHOLE CONTROVERSY ABOUT WHAT THE CONTROVERSY ABOUT WHAT THE N.S.A.

HAS DONE IN COLLECTING N.S.A.

HAS DONE IN COLLECTING INFORMATION OF PEOPLE'S CELL INFORMATION OF PEOPLE'S CELL PHONES?

PHONES?

>> THEY REALLY SHOWED THAT >> THEY REALLY SHOWED THAT DIGITAL DATA, THEY UNDERSTAND DIGITAL DATA, THEY UNDERSTAND THAT DIGITAL DATA IS DIFFERENT, THAT DIGITAL DATA IS DIFFERENT, THAT THE SCOPE OF IT IS SO MUCH THAT THE SCOPE OF IT IS SO MUCH MORE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE MORE THAN WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE IN ANY OTHER KIND OF FOURTH IN ANY OTHER KIND OF FOURTH AMENDMENT SEARCH.

AMENDMENT SEARCH.

SO I THINK FOR THE N.S.A.

SO I THINK FOR THE N.S.A.

ISSUES, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN ISSUES, THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RAISED BY EDWARD SNOWDEN THAT RAISED BY EDWARD SNOWDEN THAT FOR PEOPLE CHALLENGING THE FOR PEOPLE CHALLENGING THE GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT ON THAT GOVERNMENT ENCROACHMENT ON THAT KIND OF DIGITAL DATA, THIS KIND OF DIGITAL DATA, THIS RULING IS A GOOD BASELINE RULING IS A GOOD BASELINE BECAUSE THE JUSTICES SAID THIS BECAUSE THE JUSTICES SAID THIS IS DIFFERENT KIND OF IS DIFFERENT KIND OF INFORMATION HERE.

INFORMATION HERE.

GWEN: PRIVACY HAS ITS COSTS AS GWEN: PRIVACY HAS ITS COSTS AS THE JUSTICES SAID, THE THE JUSTICES SAID, THE TRADEOFF.

TRADEOFF.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THAT'S RIGHT, THAT'S RIGHT.

IT ALSO SAID, LOOK, THERE ARE IT ALSO SAID, LOOK, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS THAT THE FEDERAL SOME CONCERNS THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND THE STATES HAD GOVERNMENT AND THE STATES HAD WHO WERE SAYING THAT POLICE WHO WERE SAYING THAT POLICE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE WHAT'S SHOULD BE ABLE TO SERVE WHAT'S ON A CELL PHONE, THAT THERE ON A CELL PHONE, THAT THERE COULD BE SOME REMOTE ERASING OF COULD BE SOME REMOTE ERASING OF DATA THAT COULD END UP BEING DATA THAT COULD END UP BEING EVIDENCE.

EVIDENCE.

YOU CAN SOLVE THAT DOWN THE YOU CAN SOLVE THAT DOWN THE ROAD.

ROAD.

GWEN: SECOND CASE, FIRST GWEN: SECOND CASE, FIRST AMENDMENT.

AMENDMENT.

SECOND IS ABORTION PROTESTS.

SECOND IS ABORTION PROTESTS.

>> IT BRINGS US BACK TO THE >> IT BRINGS US BACK TO THE 1980'S AND 1990'S.

1980'S AND 1990'S.

A MASSACHUSETTS LAW THAT HAD A A MASSACHUSETTS LAW THAT HAD A BUFFER ZONE, PEOPLE WHO WANTED BUFFER ZONE, PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO PROTEST OR GIVE WOMEN SOME TO PROTEST OR GIVE WOMEN SOME INFORMATION COULD PERHAPS INFORMATION COULD PERHAPS DISSUADE THEM FROM HAVING DISSUADE THEM FROM HAVING ABORTIONS, THAT ZONE WAS TOO ABORTIONS, THAT ZONE WAS TOO LARGE.

LARGE.

AGAIN IT WAS UNANIMOUS, AGAIN IT WAS UNANIMOUS, ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE MORE ALTHOUGH SOME OF THE MORE CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES PEELED CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES PEELED OFF ON A FREE SPEECH ISSUE.

OFF ON A FREE SPEECH ISSUE.

AGAIN, CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN AGAIN, CHIEF JUSTICE JOHN ROBERTS WRITING THE OPINION ROBERTS WRITING THE OPINION SAYING YOU CAN REGULATE SAYING YOU CAN REGULATE PROTESTS AND YOU CAN REGULATE PROTESTS AND YOU CAN REGULATE INVOLVEMENT WITH WOMEN TRYING INVOLVEMENT WITH WOMEN TRYING TO GO INTO THE CLINIC, BUT 35 TO GO INTO THE CLINIC, BUT 35 FEET IS TOO FAR AND THESE FEET IS TOO FAR AND THESE PROHIBITIONS NEED TO BE PROHIBITIONS NEED TO BE NARROWLY TAILORED.

NARROWLY TAILORED.

THIS ONE IN MASSACHUSETTS WAS THIS ONE IN MASSACHUSETTS WAS NOT.

NOT.

GWEN: GOING FORWARD, JOAN, DOES GWEN: GOING FORWARD, JOAN, DOES THIS END THIS?

THIS END THIS?

IS THE VIOLATION OF FREE IS THE VIOLATION OF FREE SPEECH, WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT DO SPEECH, WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT DO GOING FORWARD?

GOING FORWARD?

>> NO, IN FACT, THE JUSTICES >> NO, IN FACT, THE JUSTICES REALLY GAVE PEOPLE WHO RUN REALLY GAVE PEOPLE WHO RUN THESE CLINICS SOMETHING.

THESE CLINICS SOMETHING.

THEY DIDN'T REVERSE A 2000 THEY DIDN'T REVERSE A 2000 RULING THAT SAID THAT YOU COULD RULING THAT SAID THAT YOU COULD HAVE LITTLE FLOATING BUFFER HAVE LITTLE FLOATING BUFFER ZONES AROUND PEOPLE.

ZONES AROUND PEOPLE.

THEY DIDN'T REVERSE THAT.

THEY DIDN'T REVERSE THAT.

THEY ALSO DIDN'T SAY THAT THESE THEY ALSO DIDN'T SAY THAT THESE KIND OF REGULATIONS GET TO THE KIND OF REGULATIONS GET TO THE HEART OF THE CONTENT, VIEWPOINT HEART OF THE CONTENT, VIEWPOINT OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE OF PEOPLE WHO MIGHT BE PROTESTING.

PROTESTING.

THEY SAID THESE THINGS CAN BE THEY SAID THESE THINGS CAN BE IMPORTANT FOR POLICE AND IMPORTANT FOR POLICE AND COMMUNITIES TO REGULATE THESE, COMMUNITIES TO REGULATE THESE, IT'S JUST THAT THEY HAVE TO BE IT'S JUST THAT THEY HAVE TO BE NARROWLY TAILORED.

NARROWLY TAILORED.

SO IT WAS A BIG FREE SPEECH SO IT WAS A BIG FREE SPEECH RULING, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY THAT RULING, BUT IT DIDN'T SAY THAT FREE SPEECH WAS ENCROACHED BY FREE SPEECH WAS ENCROACHED BY ANY KIND OF LIMITATION.

ANY KIND OF LIMITATION.

>> AND YET AT THE SAME TIME, I >> AND YET AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK, THERE IS ALSO LANGUAGE THINK, THERE IS ALSO LANGUAGE IN THIS OPINION THAT COULD BE IN THIS OPINION THAT COULD BE USED IN THE FUTURE TO UNDERCUT USED IN THE FUTURE TO UNDERCUT THESE OTHER PROTECTIONS THAT THESE OTHER PROTECTIONS THAT JOAN IS TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE JOAN IS TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE BUBBLE ZONE.

BUBBLE ZONE.

ONE OF THE THINGS THE COURT ONE OF THE THINGS THE COURT SAID IS, YOU'RE DOING THIS ON A SAID IS, YOU'RE DOING THIS ON A SIDEWALK.

SIDEWALK.

THAT'S GROUND ZERO FOR FREE THAT'S GROUND ZERO FOR FREE SPEECH.

SPEECH.

PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO COME PEOPLE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO COME UP AND TALK TO YOU DIRECTLY.

UP AND TALK TO YOU DIRECTLY.

JUST BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN JUST BECAUSE WHEN YOU'RE IN SOME ACTIVITY THAT IS SOME ACTIVITY THAT IS PROTECTED, DOESN'T MEAN YOU PROTECTED, DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULD BE SHIELDED FROM SHOULD BE SHIELDED FROM UNPLEASANT THINGS.

UNPLEASANT THINGS.

THE GROUNDWORK MAY BE LAID HERE THE GROUNDWORK MAY BE LAID HERE FOR UNDERCUTTING SOME OF THESE FOR UNDERCUTTING SOME OF THESE OTHER PROTECTIONS.

OTHER PROTECTIONS.

GWEN: WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GWEN: WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT THING.

THING.

THEY WERE MORE.

THEY WERE MORE.

PETE, LET'S TURN TO THE OTHER PETE, LET'S TURN TO THE OTHER TWO BIG DECISIONS THIS WEEK.

TWO BIG DECISIONS THIS WEEK.

ONE DEALT A BLOW TO A NEW KIND ONE DEALT A BLOW TO A NEW KIND OF STREAMING TECHNOLOGY AND THE OF STREAMING TECHNOLOGY AND THE OTHER DEALT A BLOW TO THE OTHER DEALT A BLOW TO THE PRESIDENT.

PRESIDENT.

TO WIT, HIS POWER TO MAKE TO WIT, HIS POWER TO MAKE APPOINTMENTS UNILATERALLY WHILE APPOINTMENTS UNILATERALLY WHILE CONGRESS IS IN RECESS.

CONGRESS IS IN RECESS.

THAT DECISION, TOO, WAS THAT DECISION, TOO, WAS UNANIMOUS, BUT THE COURT COULD UNANIMOUS, BUT THE COURT COULD HAVE GONE A LOT FARTHER, HAVE GONE A LOT FARTHER, COULDN'T IT?

COULDN'T IT?

>> IN FACT, THE FAR MORE >> IN FACT, THE FAR MORE CONSERVATIVEUSTI JCES BASICALLY CONSERVATIVEUSTI JCES BASICALLY WANTED TO SAY IT'S A RELIC OF WANTED TO SAY IT'S A RELIC OF THE HORSE AND BUGGY DAYS, IT'S THE HORSE AND BUGGY DAYS, IT'S USELESS NOW.

USELESS NOW.

IN FACT, IN MODERN TIMES, IT'S IN FACT, IN MODERN TIMES, IT'S BASICALLY BEEN BASICALLY BEEN AROUND A SENATE THAT WON'T AROUND A SENATE THAT WON'T CONFIRM A PRESIDENT'S NOMINEES.

CONFIRM A PRESIDENT'S NOMINEES.

HERE IS THE POINT.

HERE IS THE POINT.

THE CONSTITUTION GIVES THE THE CONSTITUTION GIVES THE PRESIDENT, "THE POWER TO FILL PRESIDENT, "THE POWER TO FILL UP ALL VACANCIES THAT MAY UP ALL VACANCIES THAT MAY HAPPEN DURING THE RECESS OF THE HAPPEN DURING THE RECESS OF THE SENATE.

SENATE.

COMET HERE IS WHAT THE SUPREME COMET HERE IS WHAT THE SUPREME COURT SAYS THAT MEANS.

COURT SAYS THAT MEANS.

FIRST, A RECESS CAN BE DURING FIRST, A RECESS CAN BE DURING SESSIONS, NOT JUST BETWEEN SESSIONS, NOT JUST BETWEEN SESSIONS, WHEN CONGRESS TAKES A SESSIONS, WHEN CONGRESS TAKES A BREAK THAT LASTS AT LEAST 10 BREAK THAT LASTS AT LEAST 10 DAYS AS WE AS LLBETWEEN DAYS AS WE AS LLBETWEEN SESSIONS OF CONGRESS.

SESSIONS OF CONGRESS.

SECOND, IT CAN BE USED TO FILL SECOND, IT CAN BE USED TO FILL VACANCIES THAT ARISE ANYTIME, VACANCIES THAT ARISE ANYTIME, NOT JUST DURING A RECESS.

NOT JUST DURING A RECESS.

THIRD, THE SENATE GETS TO THIRD, THE SENATE GETS TO DEFINE WHEN IT'S IN RECESS.

DEFINE WHEN IT'S IN RECESS.

SO THESE LITTLE PRO FORMA SO THESE LITTLE PRO FORMA SESSIONS COMES.

SESSIONS COMES.

WHEN THE SENATE COMES IN, BANGS WHEN THE SENATE COMES IN, BANGS THE GAVEL AND SAYS WE'RE IN THE GAVEL AND SAYS WE'RE IN RECESS UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY.

RECESS UNTIL NEXT THURSDAY.

AS LONG AS THOSE HAPPEN TO AS LONG AS THOSE HAPPEN TO SHORTEN THE BREAKS, LESS THAN SHORTEN THE BREAKS, LESS THAN 10 DAYS, THE SENATE CAN NOW 10 DAYS, THE SENATE CAN NOW DEFEAT A PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO DEFEAT A PRESIDENT'S ABILITY TO MAKE RECESS APPOINTMENTS MAKE RECESS APPOINTMENTS BECAUSE THE COURT SAYS THE BECAUSE THE COURT SAYS THE SENATE STILL, IT'S NOT IN SENATE STILL, IT'S NOT IN RECESS.

RECESS.

SO, AS A LEGAL MATTER, THE SO, AS A LEGAL MATTER, THE RECESS POWER REMAINS BECAUSE RECESS POWER REMAINS BECAUSE THE COURT DIDN'T STRIKE IT THE COURT DIDN'T STRIKE IT DOWN.

DOWN.

IT DIDN'T GO AS FAR AS THE IT DIDN'T GO AS FAR AS THE CONSERVATIVES WANTED IT TO SAY CONSERVATIVES WANTED IT TO SAY IT'S A DEAD LETTER.

IT'S A DEAD LETTER.

BUT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE BUT AS A PRACTICAL MATTER, THE SENATE HAS THE KEY TO PREVENT SENATE HAS THE KEY TO PREVENT THE PRESIDENT FROM MAKING THE PRESIDENT FROM MAKING RECESS APPOINTMENTS.

RECESS APPOINTMENTS.

GWEN: HAS PRESIDENT OBAMA GWEN: HAS PRESIDENT OBAMA APPROACHED THESE RECESS APPROACHED THESE RECESS APPOINTMENTS DIFFERENTLY THAN APPOINTMENTS DIFFERENTLY THAN PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS?

PREVIOUS PRESIDENTS?

>> IN TWO WAYS.

>> IN TWO WAYS.

HE HAS DONE IT LESS THAN OTHER HE HAS DONE IT LESS THAN OTHER PRESIDENTS.

PRESIDENTS.

HE HAS MADE 23 RECESS HE HAS MADE 23 RECESS APPOINTMENTS, BUT HE WAS THE APPOINTMENTS, BUT HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO SORT OF SAY THIS FIRST ONE TO SORT OF SAY THIS IS NONSENSE.

IS NONSENSE.

THIS PRO FORMA SESSIONS IS AN THIS PRO FORMA SESSIONS IS AN EFFORT TO WARD OFF A RECESS, EFFORT TO WARD OFF A RECESS, LET'S CHALLENGE IT.

LET'S CHALLENGE IT.

HE IS THE FIRST ONE TO ACTUALLY HE IS THE FIRST ONE TO ACTUALLY MAKE A RECESS APPOINTMENT WHILE MAKE A RECESS APPOINTMENT WHILE THE SENATE WAS DOING THESE PRO THE SENATE WAS DOING THESE PRO FORMA SESSIONS AND THE SUPREME FORMA SESSIONS AND THE SUPREME COURT SAID, SORRY, THAT'S COURT SAID, SORRY, THAT'S UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

>> THE SENATE HAS CHANGED THE >> THE SENATE HAS CHANGED THE RULES, ALSO, ON APPROVING THESE RULES, ALSO, ON APPROVING THESE NOMINATIONS, SO HOW DOES THAT NOMINATIONS, SO HOW DOES THAT FIT INTO WHAT THE SUPREME COURT FIT INTO WHAT THE SUPREME COURT HAS SAID?

HAS SAID?

>> IT LOWERS THE STAKES FOR >> IT LOWERS THE STAKES FOR THIS OUTCOME.

THIS OUTCOME.

IT'S NOT SUCH A GREAT -- IT'S IT'S NOT SUCH A GREAT -- IT'S NOT THE MOMENTOUS THING IT NOT THE MOMENTOUS THING IT WOULD HAVE DONE.

WOULD HAVE DONE.

NOW THE SENATE SAYS WE WON'T NOW THE SENATE SAYS WE WON'T FILIBUSTER PRESIDENTIAL FILIBUSTER PRESIDENTIAL APPOINTEES.

APPOINTEES.

IT LOWERS THE TEMPERATURE A IT LOWERS THE TEMPERATURE A LITTLE BIT.

LITTLE BIT.

GWEN: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GWEN: I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE FOURTH AREA, VIDEO STREAMING FOURTH AREA, VIDEO STREAMING SERVICE, A NECK LOGICAL SERVICE, A NECK LOGICAL CHALLENGE FOR THE JUSTICES.

CHALLENGE FOR THE JUSTICES.

THEY PULLED BACK, THEY KIND OF THEY PULLED BACK, THEY KIND OF VOTED AGAINST THE INNOVATION.

VOTED AGAINST THE INNOVATION.

>> SO AREA WAS TECHNOLOGY >> SO AREA WAS TECHNOLOGY ALLOWED PEOPLE TO WATCH OVER ALLOWED PEOPLE TO WATCH OVER THE AIR BROADCAST PROGRAMS SUCH THE AIR BROADCAST PROGRAMS SUCH AS THIS ONE ON A COMPUTER -- AS THIS ONE ON A COMPUTER -- >> AND PBS WAS A PARTY TO THE >> AND PBS WAS A PARTY TO THE CASE.

CASE.

>> I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT.

>> I WAS GOING TO MENTION THAT.

AND SO WAS NBC.

AND SO WAS NBC.

BUT TO GET AROUND THE LAW THAT BUT TO GET AROUND THE LAW THAT BASICALLY PROTECTS A PUBLIC BASICALLY PROTECTS A PUBLIC PERFORMANCE AND THE COURTS HAVE PERFORMANCE AND THE COURTS HAVE SAID A TELEVISION PROGRAM IS A SAID A TELEVISION PROGRAM IS A PUBLIC PERFORMANCE, WE'RE GOING PUBLIC PERFORMANCE, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE EACH VIEWER A PRIVATE TO GIVE EACH VIEWER A PRIVATE PERFORMANCE.

PERFORMANCE.

WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN THEM A WE'RE GOING TO ASSIGN THEM A LITTLE TINY ANTENNA, THIS LITTLE TINY ANTENNA, THIS LITTLE ANTENNA.

LITTLE ANTENNA.

THIS IS AN AERIAL ANTENNA.

THIS IS AN AERIAL ANTENNA.

THEY WOULD HAVE A WHOLE WALL THEY WOULD HAVE A WHOLE WALL FULL OF THINGS IN ABOUT A DOZEN FULL OF THINGS IN ABOUT A DOZEN CITIES WHERE THEY OPERATE.

CITIES WHERE THEY OPERATE.

YOU GET YOUR OWN ANTENNA FOR YOU GET YOUR OWN ANTENNA FOR THE PROGRAM YOU WANTED TO WATCH THE PROGRAM YOU WANTED TO WATCH AND GET A SEGMENT ON A VIDEO AND GET A SEGMENT ON A VIDEO RECORDER.

RECORDER.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE.

THERE IS NO PROBLEM HERE.

THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC THIS ISN'T A PUBLIC PERFORMANCE.

PERFORMANCE.

IT'S A PRIVATE PERFORMANCE.

IT'S A PRIVATE PERFORMANCE.

WE'RE GIVING YOU A SERVICE, WE'RE GIVING YOU A SERVICE, BASICALLY WHAT YOU CAN DO IN BASICALLY WHAT YOU CAN DO IN YOUR OWN HOME WITH YOUR OWN YOUR OWN HOME WITH YOUR OWN ANTENNA AND YOUR OWN DIGITAL ANTENNA AND YOUR OWN DIGITAL VIDEO RECORDER.

VIDEO RECORDER.

THE COURT SAID SORRY.

THE COURT SAID SORRY.

IF 100,000 PEOPLE ARE WATCHING IF 100,000 PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THE SUPER BOWL ON AERIAL, IT'S THE SUPER BOWL ON AERIAL, IT'S NOT 100,000 PRIVATE NOT 100,000 PRIVATE PERFORMANCES, IT'S A PUBLIC PERFORMANCES, IT'S A PUBLIC PERFORMANCE, THAT VIOLATES THE PERFORMANCE, THAT VIOLATES THE COPYRIGHT LAW AND THE WAY IT'S COPYRIGHT LAW AND THE WAY IT'S SET UP IS ILLEGAL.

SET UP IS ILLEGAL.

GWEN: CAN I ASK YOU IN A LARGER GWEN: CAN I ASK YOU IN A LARGER PICTURE OF THE OPINIONS WHAT IT PICTURE OF THE OPINIONS WHAT IT TELLS YOU ABOUT THE COURT, IS TELLS YOU ABOUT THE COURT, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN THERE ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN WEAVE BETWEEN ALL OF THESE WEAVE BETWEEN ALL OF THESE OPINIONS THAT TELLS YOU OPINIONS THAT TELLS YOU ANYTHING?

ANYTHING?

>> WELL, THEY REALLY ARE TRYING >> WELL, THEY REALLY ARE TRYING NOT TO GO TOO FAR.

NOT TO GO TOO FAR.

IN THIS RULING, THEY SAID, IN THIS RULING, THEY SAID, LOOK, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO LOOK, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO STIFLE INNOVATION OR WHAT THIS STIFLE INNOVATION OR WHAT THIS COMPANY WAS TRYING TO DO, WE COMPANY WAS TRYING TO DO, WE ARE TAKING THIS STEP FOR ARE TAKING THIS STEP FOR FEDERAL COPYRIGHT LAW.

FEDERAL COPYRIGHT LAW.

THEY BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO THEY BENT OVER BACKWARDS TO SAY, WE GET THE CLOUD.

SAY, WE GET THE CLOUD.

WE GET ALL THE THINGS THAT IT WE GET ALL THE THINGS THAT IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DIDN'T GET.

SOUNDS LIKE WE DIDN'T GET.

GWEN: THE CELL PHONES, GWEN: THE CELL PHONES, EVERYTHING, WE'RE SO COOL.

EVERYTHING, WE'RE SO COOL.

>> THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT YOU >> THAT'S WHY I THINK THAT YOU HAD EITHER A LARGE MAJORITY OR HAD EITHER A LARGE MAJORITY OR A USE NORMAL ADMIT ON SOME OF A USE NORMAL ADMIT ON SOME OF THESE.

THESE.

IT'S A TEST OF HOW FAR THEY'RE IT'S A TEST OF HOW FAR THEY'RE GOING.

GOING.

THEY'RE NOT TAKING STRIDES AT THEY'RE NOT TAKING STRIDES AT THIS POINT.

THIS POINT.

THEY'RE TAKING MORE BABY STEPS.

THEY'RE TAKING MORE BABY STEPS.

GWEN: WILL BROADCASTERS SHOT GWEN: WILL BROADCASTERS SHOT AERIAL DOWN?

AERIAL DOWN?

>> IN THEORY, AERIAL CAN >> IN THEORY, AERIAL CAN CONTINUE.

CONTINUE.

IT'S A VERY SLICK SERVICE.

IT'S A VERY SLICK SERVICE.

I TRIED IT.

I TRIED IT.

IT REALLY WORKS WELL.

IT REALLY WORKS WELL.

AERIAL COULD IN THEORY, BY THE AERIAL COULD IN THEORY, BY THE WAY, YOU NEED THE REST OF THE WAY, YOU NEED THE REST OF THE EQUIPMENT.

EQUIPMENT.

IT COULD IN THEORY CHARGE IT COULD IN THEORY CHARGE HIGHER RATES AND PAY THE HIGHER RATES AND PAY THE NETWORKS A COPYRIGHT FEE, BUT NETWORKS A COPYRIGHT FEE, BUT BARRY BASICALLY SAID, HE TOLD BARRY BASICALLY SAID, HE TOLD CNBC THIS WEEK, IT'S OVER.

CNBC THIS WEEK, IT'S OVER.

HIS REAL GOAL HERE WAS TO COME HIS REAL GOAL HERE WAS TO COME UP WITH A MODEL THAT WOULD UP WITH A MODEL THAT WOULD CHALLENGE HOW TELEVISION IS CHALLENGE HOW TELEVISION IS DISTRIBUTED.

DISTRIBUTED.

HE WANTS TO BREAK THE CABLE HE WANTS TO BREAK THE CABLE COMPANIES' METHODS FOR BUNDLE COMPANIES' METHODS FOR BUNDLE THEIR SERVICES.

THEIR SERVICES.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

YOU HAVE A BIG CASE ON MONDAY, YOU HAVE A BIG CASE ON MONDAY, WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS THERE.

THERE.

THE IRAQI MILITARY IS THE IRAQI MILITARY IS CRUMBLING.

CRUMBLING.

THE SUNNI INSURGENT GROUP ISIS THE SUNNI INSURGENT GROUP ISIS IS CLAIMING MORTARTRY AND IS CLAIMING MORTARTRY AND IRAQ'S PRIME MINISTER IS IRAQ'S PRIME MINISTER IS SERIOUSLY WEAKENED.

SERIOUSLY WEAKENED.

MARTHA HAS TRAVELED TO IRAQ MARTHA HAS TRAVELED TO IRAQ REPEATEDLY AND IS BACK FROM HER REPEATEDLY AND IS BACK FROM HER LATEST TRIP JUST IN TIME TO LATEST TRIP JUST IN TIME TO GIVE US AN UPDATE.

GIVE US AN UPDATE.

WHEN YOU GET UP CLOSE, IS THE WHEN YOU GET UP CLOSE, IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE ON THE GROUND BIGGEST CHALLENGE ON THE GROUND MILITARY OR POLITICAL?

MILITARY OR POLITICAL?

>> I THINK THE IMMEDIATE >> I THINK THE IMMEDIATE CHALLENGE IS MILITARILY BECAUSE CHALLENGE IS MILITARILY BECAUSE YOU HAVE GOT THE SENSE OF FEAR YOU HAVE GOT THE SENSE OF FEAR OF BEING IN IRAQ AND WHAT COULD OF BEING IN IRAQ AND WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPEN AND WHAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED.

HAPPENED.

I'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL SEEN I'M SURE YOU HAVE ALL SEEN THOSE HORRENDOUS VIDEOS THAT THOSE HORRENDOUS VIDEOS THAT ISIS, THE ISLAMIC MILITANT ISIS, THE ISLAMIC MILITANT GROUP IS PUTTING OUT OF GROUP IS PUTTING OUT OF EXECUTIONS, MASS EXECUTIONS, EXECUTIONS, MASS EXECUTIONS, CLEARLY WAR CRIMES IN AREAS OF CLEARLY WAR CRIMES IN AREAS OF IRAQ.

IRAQ.

YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP, YOU LOOK YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP, YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP AND THE WEST FELL.

AT THAT MAP AND THE WEST FELL.

I WAS THERE IN JANUARY AS WELL I WAS THERE IN JANUARY AS WELL AND FALLUJAH HAD ALREADY AND FALLUJAH HAD ALREADY FALLEN, PARTS OFEL ANBAR FALLEN, PARTS OFEL ANBAR PROVINCE HAS FALLEN.

PROVINCE HAS FALLEN.

YOU HAVE THE NORTH OF THEM JUST YOU HAVE THE NORTH OF THEM JUST WALKING THROUGH, JUST MARCHING, WALKING THROUGH, JUST MARCHING, WALKING THROUGH AND TAKING WALKING THROUGH AND TAKING THESE TOWNS.

THESE TOWNS.

I THINK YOU CAN'T UNSCRAMBLE I THINK YOU CAN'T UNSCRAMBLE THAT EGG.

THAT EGG.

SO MILITARILY, IT'S A SO MILITARILY, IT'S A CHALLENGE.

CHALLENGE.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE PEOPLE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE PEOPLE THERE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

THERE TO DEAL WITH THAT.

THERE IS ALL SORTS OF THERE IS ALL SORTS OF COMPLICATIONS BECAUSE OF THAT COMPLICATIONS BECAUSE OF THAT AND THE IRAQI MILITARY FORCES, AND THE IRAQI MILITARY FORCES, YOU HAVE ALSO SEEN THE PICTURES YOU HAVE ALSO SEEN THE PICTURES OF THAT.

OF THAT.

THEY DROP THEIR WEAPONS.

THEY DROP THEIR WEAPONS.

THEY DROP THEIR UNIFORMS AND THEY DROP THEIR UNIFORMS AND THEY RAN.

THEY RAN.

THERE WAS A TERRIBLE SENSE, THERE WAS A TERRIBLE SENSE, WHEN I GOT THERE ABOUT 10 DAYS WHEN I GOT THERE ABOUT 10 DAYS AGO THAT BAGHDAD WOULD FALL.

AGO THAT BAGHDAD WOULD FALL.

THERE WAS A REAL FEAR THAT THERE WAS A REAL FEAR THAT BAGHDAD WOULD FALL.

BAGHDAD WOULD FALL.

I THINK THAT FEAR IS CLEARLY I THINK THAT FEAR IS CLEARLY RECEDED BECAUSE I THINK THAT RECEDED BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU HAVE THE STRONGEST IRAQI YOU HAVE THE STRONGEST IRAQI MILITARY FORCES, YOU CLEARLY MILITARY FORCES, YOU CLEARLY HAVE A POLITICAL PROBLEM AS HAVE A POLITICAL PROBLEM AS WELL AND THAT IS A LONG-TERM WELL AND THAT IS A LONG-TERM PROBLEM AND YOU HAVE PRIME PROBLEM AND YOU HAVE PRIME MINISTER MALIKI WHO HAS NOT MINISTER MALIKI WHO HAS NOT BROUGHT THE VARIOUS ETHNIC AND BROUGHT THE VARIOUS ETHNIC AND RELIGIOUS GROUPS TOGETHER IN RELIGIOUS GROUPS TOGETHER IN ANY WAY.

ANY WAY.

HE HASN'T GIVEN THE POWER TO HE HASN'T GIVEN THE POWER TO THE MINORITIES AND GOING THE MINORITIES AND GOING FORWARD, THEY HAVE TO SOLVE FORWARD, THEY HAVE TO SOLVE THAT.

THERE, THERE, BUT I THINK THERE IS A REAL BUT I THINK THERE IS A REAL URGENT PROBLEM WITH THE URGENT PROBLEM WITH THE MILITARY AS WELL.

MILITARY AS WELL.

>> CAN I ASK ABOUT BAGHDAD?

>> CAN I ASK ABOUT BAGHDAD?

WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING WHY DO YOU THINK IT'S NOT GOING TO FALL?

TO FALL?

IS IT SORT OF THE A-TEAM IS IT SORT OF THE A-TEAM MILITARY OF THEIR MILITARY IS MILITARY OF THEIR MILITARY IS THERE?

THERE?

>> YOU GOT THE SCHWEITZ, YOU >> YOU GOT THE SCHWEITZ, YOU GOT THEOR THERE AND YOU GOT THEOR THERE AND YOU GOT THE MAJORITY SHIITES GOT THE MAJORITY SHIITES PROBABLY IN CHARGE THERE AND PROBABLY IN CHARGE THERE AND TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR CITY.

TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR CITY.

THAT'S WHY I THINK IT RECEDED.

THAT'S WHY I THINK IT RECEDED.

IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU WON'T IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU WON'T HAVE ATTACKS THERE.

HAVE ATTACKS THERE.

THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT NO THAT IS SOMETHING ELSE THAT NO ONE HAS PAID ANY ATTENTION TO ONE HAS PAID ANY ATTENTION TO IN THE LAST YEAR.

IN THE LAST YEAR.

YOU HAD IN JUNE 1,000 IRAQI YOU HAD IN JUNE 1,000 IRAQI CIVILIANS KILLED.

CIVILIANS KILLED.

THERE ARE BOMBS GOING OFF ALL THERE ARE BOMBS GOING OFF ALL THE TIME.

THE TIME.

THERE ARE GUN FIGHTS ALL THE THERE ARE GUN FIGHTS ALL THE TIME.

TIME.

SO YOU COULD HAVE MORE SO YOU COULD HAVE MORE DESTABILIZATION BY ISIS, AT DESTABILIZATION BY ISIS, AT THIS POINT, WHY BOTHER THIS POINT, WHY BOTHER ATTACKING.

ATTACKING.

WE GOT ALL OF THIS DIFFERENT WE GOT ALL OF THIS DIFFERENT AREA.

AREA.

WE HAVE DISRUPTED IRAQ TO A WE HAVE DISRUPTED IRAQ TO A DEGREE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN DEGREE THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN MANY, MANY YEARS.

MANY, MANY YEARS.

IT WAS REALLY THE BAD OLD DAYS IT WAS REALLY THE BAD OLD DAYS IN IRAQ.

IN IRAQ.

>> WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP FOR >> WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP FOR THE U.S. MILITARILY?

THE U.S. MILITARILY?

>> I CALL THEM THE BARE-FOOT >> I CALL THEM THE BARE-FOOT ADVISORS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT ADVISORS BECAUSE THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN HAS SAID OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THERE WILL BE NO BOOTS ON THAT THERE WILL BE NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND, BUT WE HAVE 300 THE GROUND, BUT WE HAVE 300 ADVISORS ON THEIR WAY IN, ADVISORS ON THEIR WAY IN, ADVISORS, TRAINERS AND THESE ADVISORS, TRAINERS AND THESE ARE NOT -- AND WE ALSO HAVE 275 ARE NOT -- AND WE ALSO HAVE 275 EXTRA FORCES IN THE EMBASSY EXTRA FORCES IN THE EMBASSY WHICH WAS ALSO UNDER REAL WHICH WAS ALSO UNDER REAL THREAT THEN AND THEY HAVE THREAT THEN AND THEY HAVE EVACUATED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN EVACUATED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THE EMBASSY.

THE EMBASSY.

BUT GOING FORWARD AND I THINK BUT GOING FORWARD AND I THINK YOU COULD SEE IT GROW A LITTLE YOU COULD SEE IT GROW A LITTLE BIT.

BIT.

IF THE U.S.

DECIDES THEY WANT IF THE U.S.

DECIDES THEY WANT TO DO THEIR STRIKES, IF THEY TO DO THEIR STRIKES, IF THEY DECIDE URGENTLY THEYD STRIKES.

DECIDE URGENTLY THEYD STRIKES.

THEY ARE SAYING THEY GOT DRONES THEY ARE SAYING THEY GOT DRONES UP, OTHER AIRCRAFT UP TO UP, OTHER AIRCRAFT UP TO PROTECT OUR TROOPS WHO ARE PROTECT OUR TROOPS WHO ARE GOING OUT BEYOND THAT EMBASSY, GOING OUT BEYOND THAT EMBASSY, THEY ARE GOING OUT BEYOND THE THEY ARE GOING OUT BEYOND THE EMBASSY AND THAT'S WITHOUT THE EMBASSY AND THAT'S WITHOUT THE USUAL SO-CALLED FORCE USUAL SO-CALLED FORCE PROTECTION, PEOPLE TO LOOK PROTECTION, PEOPLE TO LOOK AFTER THEM.

AFTER THEM.

I THINK THIS IS A RISKY I THINK THIS IS A RISKY MISSION.

MISSION.

>> I JUST WANT TO KNOW, GIVE US >> I JUST WANT TO KNOW, GIVE US A LITTLE BETTER SENSE OF WHAT A LITTLE BETTER SENSE OF WHAT IS THE MANDATE OF THE U.S. IS THE MANDATE OF THE U.S.

FORCES THAT ARE THERE?

FORCES THAT ARE THERE?

>> THE MANDATE IS TO FIGURE OUT >> THE MANDATE IS TO FIGURE OUT -- THE MANDATE RIGHT NOW IS TO -- THE MANDATE RIGHT NOW IS TO GO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM GO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

IS.

IN OTHER WORDS, HOW CAPABLE ARE IN OTHER WORDS, HOW CAPABLE ARE THE IRAQI SECURITY FORCES, CAN THE IRAQI SECURITY FORCES, CAN THEY HOLD BAGHDAD, CAN THEY THEY HOLD BAGHDAD, CAN THEY CONTINUE, CAN THEY TAKE BK AC CONTINUE, CAN THEY TAKE BK AC THE OTHER AREAS.

THE OTHER AREAS.

GWEN: THERE PROBLEM ON THE GWEN: THERE PROBLEM ON THE SYRIAN BORDER, COLLABORATION SYRIAN BORDER, COLLABORATION WITH IRAN.

WITH IRAN.

JOHN KERRY IN SAUDI ARABIA JOHN KERRY IN SAUDI ARABIA TRYING TO GET THE REGION.

TRYING TO GET THE REGION.

>> IT'S CRAZY.

>> IT'S CRAZY.

YOU GOT THE IRANIANS THERE, YOU GOT THE IRANIANS THERE, SYRIA CARRYING OUT AIR STRIKES, SYRIA CARRYING OUT AIR STRIKES, UNCLEAR WHAT SIDE OF THE UNCLEAR WHAT SIDE OF THE BORDER, BUT YOU HAVE GOT THAT BORDER, BUT YOU HAVE GOT THAT ENTIRE BORDER.

ENTIRE BORDER.

YOU GOT THE SYRIAN BORDER TAKEN YOU GOT THE SYRIAN BORDER TAKEN OVER BY THE MILITANTS, THE OVER BY THE MILITANTS, THE JORDANAN BORDER TAKEN OVER BY JORDANAN BORDER TAKEN OVER BY THESE MILITANTS.

THESE MILITANTS.

THIS MAY SEEM LIKE IT'S THIS MAY SEEM LIKE IT'S RECEDING, BUT I THINK IT'S A RECEDING, BUT I THINK IT'S A TOTAL CRISIS AT THIS POINT.

TOTAL CRISIS AT THIS POINT.

GWEN: THAT'S WHY THE U.S. IS GWEN: THAT'S WHY THE U.S. IS SUCK STUCK TRYING TO WORK OUT A SUCK STUCK TRYING TO WORK OUT A POLITICAL SOLUTION.

POLITICAL SOLUTION.

>> THEY HAVE TO WORK OUT SOME >> THEY HAVE TO WORK OUT SOME SORT OF POLITICAL SOLUTION.

SORT OF POLITICAL SOLUTION.

>> WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THAT?

>> WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THAT?

>> WELL, I THINK THE ODDS ARE >> WELL, I THINK THE ODDS ARE PRETTY GOOD.

PRETTY GOOD.

>> REALLY?

>> REALLY?

>> YOU HAVE THE CLERICS TRYING >> YOU HAVE THE CLERICS TRYING MALIKI, TOO, TO BE MALIKI, TOO, TO BE MORE INCLUSIVE.

MORE INCLUSIVE.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.

ALTHOUGH YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I ALTHOUGH YOU THINK ABOUT IT, I DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE GOING TO DON'T KNOW WHO THEY'RE GOING TO GET.

GET.

THEY MAY GET RID OF MALIKI, BUT THEY MAY GET RID OF MALIKI, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL TAKE HIS I DON'T KNOW WHO WILL TAKE HIS PLACE.

PLACE.

GWEN: THAT'S THE NEXT PROBLEM GWEN: THAT'S THE NEXT PROBLEM WE DISCOVERED IN AFGHANISTAN.

WE DISCOVERED IN AFGHANISTAN.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH.

BEFORE WE GO TONIGHT, WE WANT BEFORE WE GO TONIGHT, WE WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO NOTE THE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO NOTE THE PASSING OF FORMER SENATOR PASSING OF FORMER SENATOR HOWARD BAKER, REPUBLICAN OF HOWARD BAKER, REPUBLICAN OF TENNESSEE.

TENNESSEE.

A SON OF THE SOUTH AND ANNATOR A SON OF THE SOUTH AND ANNATOR AN AMBASSADOR, A WHITE HOUSE AN AMBASSADOR, A WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF, MAJOTY ARIND CHIEF OF STAFF, MAJOTY ARIND MINORITY LEADER, AND MEMORABLY, MINORITY LEADER, AND MEMORABLY, AS VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE AS VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE SENATES SPECIAL WATERGATE SENATES SPECIAL WATERGATE COMMITTEE.

COMMITTEE.

>> WHAT DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW, >> WHAT DID THE PRESIDENT KNOW, AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?

AND WHEN DID HE KNOW IT?

GWEN: AMONG OTHER THINGS, HE GWEN: AMONG OTHER THINGS, HE WILL BE REMEMBERED AS SOMEONE WILL BE REMEMBERED AS SOMEONE WHO KNEW HOW TO WORK ACROSS WHO KNEW HOW TO WORK ACROSS PARTY LINES, WHEN THAT PARTY LINES, WHEN THAT MATTERED.

MATTERED.

HOWARD BAKER WAS 88.

HOWARD BAKER WAS 88.

THANKS EVERYONE.

THANKS EVERYONE.

WE HAVE TO GO FOR NOW, BUT AS WE HAVE TO GO FOR NOW, BUT AS ALWAYS, THE CONVERSATION ALWAYS, THE CONVERSATION CONTINUES ONLINE.

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AMONG OTHER THINGS, WELL TALK AMONG OTHER THINGS, WELL TALK ABOUT THE SUPREME COURTS BIG ABOUT THE SUPREME COURTS BIG FINAL DECISION DAY AND WHAT FINAL DECISION DAY AND WHAT COMES NEXT.

COMES NEXT.

OUT WHAT OUR WASHINGTON WEEK OUT WHAT OUR WASHINGTON WEEK PANELISTS ARE READING ON OUR PANELISTS ARE READING ON OUR SUMMER READING LIST.

SUMMER READING LIST.

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