>> ONCE AGAIN, LIVE FROM MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.

MODERATOR GWEN IFILL.

GWEN: GOOD EVENING.

IFILL.

GWEN: GOOD EVENING.

CUSTOM,ECOME HIS GWEN: GOOD EVENING.

CUSTOM,ECOME HIS PRESIDENT OBAMA GAVE HIMSELF ONE CUSTOM,ECOME HIS PRESIDENT OBAMA GAVE HIMSELF ONE FINAL REASON TO LOOK FORWARD TO PRESIDENT OBAMA GAVE HIMSELF ONE FINAL REASON TO LOOK FORWARD TO A HAWAIIAN CHRISTMAS.

FINAL REASON TO LOOK FORWARD TO A HAWAIIAN CHRISTMAS.

HE MET THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS A HAWAIIAN CHRISTMAS.

HE MET THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS FOR A YEAR-END NEWS HE MET THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CORPS FOR A YEAR-END NEWS CONFERENCE.

CORPS FOR A YEAR-END NEWS CONFERENCE.

ADDRESSEDTOPICS HE CONFERENCE.

ADDRESSEDTOPICS HE TODAY, THE TROUBLED AFFORDABLE ADDRESSEDTOPICS HE TODAY, THE TROUBLED AFFORDABLE REIGNING IN THE TODAY, THE TROUBLED AFFORDABLE REIGNING IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY AND REIGNING IN THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY AND STATE OF THE ECONOMY.

NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY AND STATE OF THE ECONOMY.

ALL WAS A MOREIT STATE OF THE ECONOMY.

ALL WAS A MOREIT FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT ALL WAS A MOREIT FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT MR. OBAMA HIMSELF.

FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT MR. OBAMA HIMSELF.

BYIF YOU ARE MEASURING THIS MR. OBAMA HIMSELF.

BYIF YOU ARE MEASURING THIS POLLS MY POLLS HAVE GONE UP AND BYIF YOU ARE MEASURING THIS POLLS MY POLLS HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN A LOT THROUGH THE COURSE OF POLLS MY POLLS HAVE GONE UP AND DOWN A LOT THROUGH THE COURSE OF MY CAREER.

DOWN A LOT THROUGH THE COURSE OF MY CAREER.

IF I WAS INTERESTED IN MY CAREER.

IF I WAS INTERESTED IN POLLING, I WOULDN'T HAVE RUN FOR IF I WAS INTERESTED IN POLLING, I WOULDN'T HAVE RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

POLLING, I WOULDN'T HAVE RUN FOR PRESIDENT.

I WAS POLLING AT 70% WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT.

I WAS POLLING AT 70% WHEN I WAS IN THE U.S. SENATE.

I WAS POLLING AT 70% WHEN I WAS IN THE U.S. SENATE.

FOROK THIS JOB TO DELIVER IN THE U.S. SENATE.

FOROK THIS JOB TO DELIVER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND I KNEW FOROK THIS JOB TO DELIVER THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND I KNEW AND WILL CONTINUE TO KNOW THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND I KNEW AND WILL CONTINUE TO KNOW THAT UPS AND DOWNS ON AND WILL CONTINUE TO KNOW THAT UPS AND DOWNS ON IT.

UPS AND DOWNS ON IT.

GWEN: UPS AND DOWNS SEEM TO BE IT.

GWEN: UPS AND DOWNS SEEM TO BE PROBLEMS.OF HIS GWEN: UPS AND DOWNS SEEM TO BE PROBLEMS.OF HIS IT IS THE DOWNS WHICH STAY DOWN, PROBLEMS.OF HIS IT IS THE DOWNS WHICH STAY DOWN, DAN.

IT IS THE DOWNS WHICH STAY DOWN, DAN.

HOW IS HE DOING?

DAN.

HOW IS HE DOING?

FIRST QUESTION A THE HOW IS HE DOING?

FIRST QUESTION A THE PRESS CONFERENCE IS WAS THIS THE FIRST QUESTION A THE PRESS CONFERENCE IS WAS THIS THE WORST YEAR OF YOUR PRESIDENCY PRESS CONFERENCE IS WAS THIS THE WORST YEAR OF YOUR PRESIDENCY BASICALLY WHERE STAND.

WORST YEAR OF YOUR PRESIDENCY BASICALLY WHERE STAND.

HE TRIED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT BASICALLY WHERE STAND.

HE TRIED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT QUESTION AS QUICKLY AS HE COULD.

HE TRIED TO MOVE AWAY FROM THAT QUESTION AS QUICKLY AS HE COULD.

ENDING THIS YEAR AT LOW END.

QUESTION AS QUICKLY AS HE COULD.

ENDING THIS YEAR AT LOW END.

IN OUR LATEST POLL WITH ABC HE ENDING THIS YEAR AT LOW END.

IN OUR LATEST POLL WITH ABC HE AT 4 3% IN HIS APPROVAL.

IN OUR LATEST POLL WITH ABC HE AT 4 3% IN HIS APPROVAL.

DISAPPROVAL AT 55%.

AT 4 3% IN HIS APPROVAL.

DISAPPROVAL AT 55%.

MEASURED IT.E HAVE DISAPPROVAL AT 55%.

MEASURED IT.E HAVE I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, IF YOU MEASURED IT.E HAVE I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE HE WAS A YEAR AGO I THINK MOST IMPORTANTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT WHERE HE WAS A YEAR AGO THAT RE-ELECTION LOOK AT WHERE HE WAS A YEAR AGO THAT RE-ELECTION VICTORY, HIS RAY PROVAL RATING THAT RE-ELECTION VICTORY, HIS RAY PROVAL RATING POINTS AND VICTORY, HIS RAY PROVAL RATING POINTS AND DISAPPROVAL RISEN 15.

POINTS AND DISAPPROVAL RISEN 15.

PERCEPTIONANT IS THE DISAPPROVAL RISEN 15.

PERCEPTIONANT IS THE OF HIM VERSUS THE REPUBLICANS.

PERCEPTIONANT IS THE OF HIM VERSUS THE REPUBLICANS.

WE KNOW THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT OF HIM VERSUS THE REPUBLICANS.

WE KNOW THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT PARTICULARLY POPULAR AT THIS WE KNOW THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT PARTICULARLY POPULAR AT THIS POINT EITHER.

PARTICULARLY POPULAR AT THIS POINT EITHER.

YET, A YEAR AGO HE HAD A POINT EITHER.

YET, A YEAR AGO HE HAD A DECIDED ADVANTAGE WHEN PEOPLE YET, A YEAR AGO HE HAD A DECIDED ADVANTAGE WHEN PEOPLE YOU THINK ISO DO DECIDED ADVANTAGE WHEN PEOPLE YOU THINK ISO DO BETTER ABLE TO HANDLE THE YOU THINK ISO DO BETTER ABLE TO HANDLE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS OF THE COUNTRY.

BETTER ABLE TO HANDLE THE BIGGEST PROBLEMS OF THE COUNTRY.

ON THAT.BIG ADVANTAGE BIGGEST PROBLEMS OF THE COUNTRY.

ON THAT.BIG ADVANTAGE TODAY HE IS EVEN WITH THE ON THAT.BIG ADVANTAGE TODAY HE IS EVEN WITH THE REPUBLICANS.

TODAY HE IS EVEN WITH THE REPUBLICANS.

GWEN: WHERE HAS HE LOST GROUND?

REPUBLICANS.

GWEN: WHERE HAS HE LOST GROUND?

POLICY MATTERS?

GWEN: WHERE HAS HE LOST GROUND?

POLICY MATTERS?

IS IT PERSONAL?

POLICY MATTERS?

IS IT PERSONAL?

LIKABILITY?

IS IT PERSONAL?

LIKABILITY?

WHAT IS IT?

LIKABILITY?

WHAT IS IT?

COMBINATION OFS WHAT IS IT?

COMBINATION OFS THINGS.

COMBINATION OFS THINGS.

HE HAS LOST GROUND ON THE THINGS.

HE HAS LOST GROUND ON THE QUESTION OF COMPETENCE BECAUSE HE HAS LOST GROUND ON THE QUESTION OF COMPETENCE BECAUSE HAPPENED ON THE QUESTION OF COMPETENCE BECAUSE HAPPENED ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

HAPPENED ON THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

HE HAS LOST GROUND ON AFFORDABLE CARE ACT.

HE HAS LOST GROUND ON AGAIN BECAUSE OF HE HAS LOST GROUND ON AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND SOME AGAIN BECAUSE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT AND SOME OTHER THINGS.

AT THEHINK THAT OVERALL OTHER THINGS.

AT THEHINK THAT OVERALL SAME TIME WHILE PEOPLE STILL AT THEHINK THAT OVERALL SAME TIME WHILE PEOPLE STILL LIKE HIM MORE THAN DISLIKE HIM, SAME TIME WHILE PEOPLE STILL LIKE HIM MORE THAN DISLIKE HIM, HE HAS LOST GROUND THERE, TOO.

LIKE HIM MORE THAN DISLIKE HIM, HE HAS LOST GROUND THERE, TOO.

PEOPLE DON'T THINK HE -- FEWER HE HAS LOST GROUND THERE, TOO.

PEOPLE DON'T THINK HE -- FEWER PEOPLE THINK HE IS HONEST.

PEOPLE DON'T THINK HE -- FEWER PEOPLE THINK HE IS HONEST.

FEWER PEOPLE THINK HE IS A PEOPLE THINK HE IS HONEST.

FEWER PEOPLE THINK HE IS A STRONG LEADER.

FEWER PEOPLE THINK HE IS A STRONG LEADER.

SO I MEAN THERE HAS BEEN A STRONG LEADER.

SO I MEAN THERE HAS BEEN A EFFECT PARTICULARLY SO I MEAN THERE HAS BEEN A EFFECT PARTICULARLY THROUGH THE FALL AND INTO THIS EFFECT PARTICULARLY THROUGH THE FALL AND INTO THIS LAST MONTH.

THROUGH THE FALL AND INTO THIS LAST MONTH.

NO, THE GOOD NEWS IS HE IS LAST MONTH.

NO, THE GOOD NEWS IS HE IS WORSE TODAY THAN HE WAS IN NO, THE GOOD NEWS IS HE IS WORSE TODAY THAN HE WAS IN NOVEMBER.

WORSE TODAY THAN HE WAS IN NOVEMBER.

I MEAN HE STABILIZED BUT AT A NOVEMBER.

I MEAN HE STABILIZED BUT AT A POINT.

I MEAN HE STABILIZED BUT AT A POINT.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE POINT.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPPOSITE OF A HONEYMOON IS.

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE OPPOSITE OF A HONEYMOON IS.

TO WHAT MOSTOMPARE OPPOSITE OF A HONEYMOON IS.

TO WHAT MOSTOMPARE TWO-TERM PRESIDENTS ARE YEAR IN?

TO WHAT MOSTOMPARE TWO-TERM PRESIDENTS ARE YEAR IN?

ALMOST, HE IS LOWER THAN TWO-TERM PRESIDENTS ARE YEAR IN?

ALMOST, HE IS LOWER THAN EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT AT THIS ALMOST, HE IS LOWER THAN EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT AT THIS POINT IN THEIR PRESIDENCY POST EVERY OTHER PRESIDENT AT THIS POINT IN THEIR PRESIDENCY POST II EXCEPT FOR RICHARD POINT IN THEIR PRESIDENCY POST II EXCEPT FOR RICHARD NIXON, OF COURSE, WHO WAS II EXCEPT FOR RICHARD NIXON, OF COURSE, WHO WAS HEADING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, NIXON, OF COURSE, WHO WAS HEADING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, RESIGNING BECAUSE OF WATERGATE.

HEADING TOWARDS, YOU KNOW, RESIGNING BECAUSE OF WATERGATE.

HE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT RESIGNING BECAUSE OF WATERGATE.

HE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT THIS POINT THAN GEORGE HE IS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT THIS POINT THAN GEORGE W. BUSH WAS AND WE KNOW GEORGE THIS POINT THAN GEORGE W. BUSH WAS AND WE KNOW GEORGE W. BUSH HAD A VERY BAD 2005.

W. BUSH WAS AND WE KNOW GEORGE W. BUSH HAD A VERY BAD 2005.

KNOW, AND PRESIDENT W. BUSH HAD A VERY BAD 2005.

KNOW, AND PRESIDENT REAGAN AND CLINTON WERE WELL KNOW, AND PRESIDENT REAGAN AND CLINTON WERE WELL OVER 50 PERCENT.

REAGAN AND CLINTON WERE WELL OVER 50 PERCENT.

LOW END OF THAT.

OVER 50 PERCENT.

LOW END OF THAT.

>> MAN WITH AN ASSAULT IS THE LOW END OF THAT.

>> MAN WITH AN ASSAULT IS THE IS THE WHITE HOUSE PLAN TO >> MAN WITH AN ASSAULT IS THE IS THE WHITE HOUSE PLAN TO TURN IT AROUND AND DO THEY HAVE IS THE WHITE HOUSE PLAN TO TURN IT AROUND AND DO THEY HAVE AROUND.O TURN IT TURN IT AROUND AND DO THEY HAVE AROUND.O TURN IT GWEN: THEY ARE KEEPING IT A AROUND.O TURN IT GWEN: THEY ARE KEEPING IT A SECRET FROM HIM AND US AS WELL.

GWEN: THEY ARE KEEPING IT A SECRET FROM HIM AND US AS WELL.

ALWAYS BELIEVE THERE IS SECRET FROM HIM AND US AS WELL.

ALWAYS BELIEVE THERE IS A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ALWAYS BELIEVE THERE IS A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ECONOMY AND HIS STANDING AND A DIRECT CONNECTION BETWEEN THE ECONOMY AND HIS STANDING AND THEY WILL TRY TO RIDE THAT.

ECONOMY AND HIS STANDING AND THEY WILL TRY TO RIDE THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THEY THEY WILL TRY TO RIDE THAT.

AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE IT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THEY ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE IT APPEAR AS THOUGH HE ACTUALLY IS ARE LOOKING FOR WAYS TO MAKE IT APPEAR AS THOUGH HE ACTUALLY IS SOMEMMAND AND CAN DO APPEAR AS THOUGH HE ACTUALLY IS SOMEMMAND AND CAN DO THINGS.

SOMEMMAND AND CAN DO THINGS.

HE BROUGHT JOHN PODESTA IN AS A THINGS.

HE BROUGHT JOHN PODESTA IN AS A COUNSELOR AT THE WHITE HOUSE IN HE BROUGHT JOHN PODESTA IN AS A COUNSELOR AT THE WHITE HOUSE IN PART WITH A PORTFOLIO TO LOOK AT COUNSELOR AT THE WHITE HOUSE IN PART WITH A PORTFOLIO TO LOOK AT EXECUTIVE ACTIONS THAT HE CAN DO PART WITH A PORTFOLIO TO LOOK AT EXECUTIVE ACTIONS THAT HE CAN DO WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF CONGRESS EXECUTIVE ACTIONS THAT HE CAN DO WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF CONGRESS CLIMATEROGRESS GRES ON WITHOUT THE APPROVAL OF CONGRESS CLIMATEROGRESS GRES ON CHANGE OR ENERGY OR EVEN THE CLIMATEROGRESS GRES ON CHANGE OR ENERGY OR EVEN THE JOBS FRONT.

CHANGE OR ENERGY OR EVEN THE JOBS FRONT.

>> WHEN YOU ARE AT A RECORD LOW JOBS FRONT.

>> WHEN YOU ARE AT A RECORD LOW THE TEMPTATION MUST BE TO SAY IT >> WHEN YOU ARE AT A RECORD LOW THE TEMPTATION MUST BE TO SAY IT CAN ONLY GO UP FROM HERE.

THE TEMPTATION MUST BE TO SAY IT CAN ONLY GO UP FROM HERE.

COULD IT ACTUALLY GET WORSE FROM CAN ONLY GO UP FROM HERE.

COULD IT ACTUALLY GET WORSE FROM HERE?

COULD IT ACTUALLY GET WORSE FROM HERE?

>> I SUPPOSE IT COULD.

HERE?

>> I SUPPOSE IT COULD.

I THINK THE COUNTRY IS SO >> I SUPPOSE IT COULD.

I THINK THE COUNTRY IS SO LITTLEED THAT HE HAS A I THINK THE COUNTRY IS SO LITTLEED THAT HE HAS A BIT HIGHER FLOOR THAN PERHAPS LITTLEED THAT HE HAS A BIT HIGHER FLOOR THAN PERHAPS PRESIDENT BUSH DID IN HIS BIT HIGHER FLOOR THAN PERHAPS PRESIDENT BUSH DID IN HIS PRESIDENCY.

PRESIDENT BUSH DID IN HIS PRESIDENCY.

THE EXPECTATION -- PRESIDENCY.

THE EXPECTATION -- GWEN: HE IS NOT LOSING AS MANY THE EXPECTATION -- GWEN: HE IS NOT LOSING AS MANY DEMOCRATS?

GWEN: HE IS NOT LOSING AS MANY DEMOCRATS?

>> ONE PLACE WHERE HE HAS FALLEN DEMOCRATS?

>> ONE PLACE WHERE HE HAS FALLEN DOWN IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS IS >> ONE PLACE WHERE HE HAS FALLEN DOWN IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS IS WITH DEMOCRATS AND WITH DOWN IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS IS WITH DEMOCRATS AND WITH LIBERALS.

WITH DEMOCRATS AND WITH LIBERALS.

HE HAS LOST SOME.

LIBERALS.

HE HAS LOST SOME.

WHITE HOUSE BELIEF IS THAT SOME HE HAS LOST SOME.

WHITE HOUSE BELIEF IS THAT SOME THAT WILL COME BACK.

WHITE HOUSE BELIEF IS THAT SOME THAT WILL COME BACK.

THAT THERE WAS DISILLUSIONMENT THAT WILL COME BACK.

THAT THERE WAS DISILLUSIONMENT OVER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT OR THAT THERE WAS DISILLUSIONMENT OVER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT OR DISAFFECTION BECAUSE OF THE OVER THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT OR DISAFFECTION BECAUSE OF THE AGENCYL SECURITY DISAFFECTION BECAUSE OF THE AGENCYL SECURITY PROBLEMS AND THAT OVER TIME THEY AGENCYL SECURITY PROBLEMS AND THAT OVER TIME THEY WILL KIND OF REGROUP BEHIND HIM, PROBLEMS AND THAT OVER TIME THEY WILL KIND OF REGROUP BEHIND HIM, PARTICULARLY IN A MID TERM WILL KIND OF REGROUP BEHIND HIM, PARTICULARLY IN A MID TERM ELECTION YEAR.

PARTICULARLY IN A MID TERM ELECTION YEAR.

GWEN: SPEAKING OF WHICH, ARE THE ELECTION YEAR.

GWEN: SPEAKING OF WHICH, ARE THE DEMOCRATS GETTING GWEN: SPEAKING OF WHICH, ARE THE DEMOCRATS GETTING UNNEVERRED BY ALL OF THIS?

DEMOCRATS GETTING UNNEVERRED BY ALL OF THIS?

UNNERVED BY ALL OF UNNEVERRED BY ALL OF THIS?

UNNERVED BY ALL OF THIS?

UNNERVED BY ALL OF THIS?

>> KIND OF A WHITE HOUSE WATCH THIS?

>> KIND OF A WHITE HOUSE WATCH ON THE SENATE.

>> KIND OF A WHITE HOUSE WATCH ON THE SENATE.

THROUGH THE PERIOD WHEN THE ON THE SENATE.

THROUGH THE PERIOD WHEN THE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE THROUGH THE PERIOD WHEN THE OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WAS NOT WORKING THE SENATORS OF THE AFFORDABLE CARE ACT WAS NOT WORKING THE SENATORS MOOD AND MAKING ACT WAS NOT WORKING THE SENATORS MOOD AND MAKING IT CLEAR TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

MOOD AND MAKING IT CLEAR TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

THEY THINK SINCE THE WEBSITE HAS IT CLEAR TO THE WHITE HOUSE.

THEY THINK SINCE THE WEBSITE HAS HASOVED SOME THAT THE FEVER THEY THINK SINCE THE WEBSITE HAS HASOVED SOME THAT THE FEVER BROKE AND LITTLE BIT BUT WE WILL HASOVED SOME THAT THE FEVER BROKE AND LITTLE BIT BUT WE WILL HAVE TO SEE.

BROKE AND LITTLE BIT BUT WE WILL HAVE TO SEE.

GWEN: WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT HAVE TO SEE.

GWEN: WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT INTHER THE FIVER IS BREAKING GWEN: WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT INTHER THE FIVER IS BREAKING A MOMENT.

INTHER THE FIVER IS BREAKING A MOMENT.

FIRST WE TURN TO THE N.S.A.

A MOMENT.

FIRST WE TURN TO THE N.S.A.

THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY.

FIRST WE TURN TO THE N.S.A.

THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY.

FEDERAL JUDGE AND THEN A THE NATIONAL SECURITY AGENCY.

FEDERAL JUDGE AND THEN A SEPARATE REVIEW PANEL SAID THE FEDERAL JUDGE AND THEN A SEPARATE REVIEW PANEL SAID THE TOO FAR TOP SPIES GO SEPARATE REVIEW PANEL SAID THE TOO FAR TOP SPIES GO AND THE PRESIDENT CONCEDED TODAY TOO FAR TOP SPIES GO AND THE PRESIDENT CONCEDED TODAY IT HAS HURT HIS GOVERNMENT'S AND THE PRESIDENT CONCEDED TODAY IT HAS HURT HIS GOVERNMENT'S ANDIBILITY AT HOME IT HAS HURT HIS GOVERNMENT'S ANDIBILITY AT HOME APROCEED.

ANDIBILITY AT HOME APROCEED.

>> IN FACT, THERE -- ABROAD.

APROCEED.

>> IN FACT, THERE -- ABROAD.

>> THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ACTUAL >> IN FACT, THERE -- ABROAD.

>> THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ACTUAL WHERE IT HAS BEEN >> THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ACTUAL WHERE IT HAS BEEN ALLEGED THAT THE N.S.A.

IN SOME WHERE IT HAS BEEN ALLEGED THAT THE N.S.A.

IN SOME INAPPROPRIATELY IN ALLEGED THAT THE N.S.A.

IN SOME INAPPROPRIATELY IN WHATSE OF THIS DATA, BUT INAPPROPRIATELY IN WHATSE OF THIS DATA, BUT IS ALSO CLEAR IS FROM THE PUBLIC WHATSE OF THIS DATA, BUT IS ALSO CLEAR IS FROM THE PUBLIC DEBATE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED IS ALSO CLEAR IS FROM THE PUBLIC DEBATE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ONL THE PROSPECT, THE DEBATE PEOPLE ARE CONCERNED ONL THE PROSPECT, THE POSSIBILITY OF ABUSE.

ONL THE PROSPECT, THE POSSIBILITY OF ABUSE.

GWEN: THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO BE POSSIBILITY OF ABUSE.

GWEN: THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO BE TALK PERSIAN GULF PERCEPTION GWEN: THE PRESIDENT SEEMS TO BE TALK PERSIAN GULF PERCEPTION THAN RIAL --ALOUT PERCEPTION RN TALK PERSIAN GULF PERCEPTION THAN RIAL --ALOUT PERCEPTION RN REALITY.

THAN RIAL --ALOUT PERCEPTION RN REALITY.

>> HE SAID I WANTED TO SEE THESE REALITY.

>> HE SAID I WANTED TO SEE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS NOT BECAUSE I >> HE SAID I WANTED TO SEE THESE RECOMMENDATIONS NOT BECAUSE I IS OUT OFTHING RECOMMENDATIONS NOT BECAUSE I IS OUT OFTHING CONTROL BUT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC IS OUT OFTHING CONTROL BUT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC THINKS IT IS OUT OF CONTROL.

CONTROL BUT BECAUSE THE PUBLIC THINKS IT IS OUT OF CONTROL.

POINT, SO DO THE THINKS IT IS OUT OF CONTROL.

POINT, SO DO THE PEOPLE OVERSEAS.

POINT, SO DO THE PEOPLE OVERSEAS.

FOREFOREIGN LEADARIES OR ALLIES PEOPLE OVERSEAS.

FOREFOREIGN LEADARIES OR ALLIES IN FOREIGN PUBLICS AND WE NEED FOREFOREIGN LEADARIES OR ALLIES IN FOREIGN PUBLICS AND WE NEED EVERYBODY ONBOARD SO LET'S SEE IN FOREIGN PUBLICS AND WE NEED EVERYBODY ONBOARD SO LET'S SEE CAN DO TO FIX IT.

EVERYBODY ONBOARD SO LET'S SEE CAN DO TO FIX IT.

TWO BLOWS THIS WEEK.

CAN DO TO FIX IT.

TWO BLOWS THIS WEEK.

THAT SAID IT IS TWO BLOWS THIS WEEK.

THAT SAID IT IS OVEREXPANSIONIVE AND THAT SAID IT IS OVEREXPANSIONIVE AND UNCONSTIUTIOTNAL.

OVEREXPANSIONIVE AND UNCONSTIUTIOTNAL.

BUY THE MAINLED TO UNCONSTIUTIOTNAL.

BUY THE MAINLED TO ARGUMENT THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN BUY THE MAINLED TO ARGUMENT THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN MAKING ABOUT THE BULK COLLECTION ARGUMENT THE GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN MAKING ABOUT THE BULK COLLECTION OF PHONE DATA WHICH IS THE MAKING ABOUT THE BULK COLLECTION OF PHONE DATA WHICH IS THE TO HAVE IT ALL IN ONE OF PHONE DATA WHICH IS THE TO HAVE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE SO IF WE NEED TO QUICKLY TO HAVE IT ALL IN ONE PLACE SO IF WE NEED TO QUICKLY CHECK A PHONE NUMBER OF A PLACE SO IF WE NEED TO QUICKLY CHECK A PHONE NUMBER OF A TO SEE IFTERRORIST CHECK A PHONE NUMBER OF A TO SEE IFTERRORIST THEY ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN TO SEE IFTERRORIST THEY ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN THE U.S. WE HAVE INSTANT ACCESS THEY ARE TALKING TO SOMEBODY IN THE U.S. WE HAVE INSTANT ACCESS TO IT.

THE U.S. WE HAVE INSTANT ACCESS TO IT.

FIND THE JUDGE COULDN'T TO IT.

FIND THE JUDGE COULDN'T ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT FIND THE JUDGE COULDN'T ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT HAPPENED.

ONE EXAMPLE OF WHERE THAT HAPPENED.

>> AND SO DID THE PANEL.

HAPPENED.

>> AND SO DID THE PANEL.

HAS TO BE A MAIN CONCERN >> AND SO DID THE PANEL.

HAS TO BE A MAIN CONCERN FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

HAS TO BE A MAIN CONCERN FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

THAT IS WHY YOU HEARD IN THE FOR THE GOVERNMENT.

THAT IS WHY YOU HEARD IN THE LEAHY, NOW THE THAT IS WHY YOU HEARD IN THE LEAHY, NOW THE JUDICIAL BLANCHE ANDING ECKTIVE LEAHY, NOW THE JUDICIAL BLANCHE ANDING ECKTIVE BUY THEAYING WE DON'T JUDICIAL BLANCHE ANDING ECKTIVE BUY THEAYING WE DON'T MAIN ARGUMENT FOR THE PROGRAM.

BUY THEAYING WE DON'T MAIN ARGUMENT FOR THE PROGRAM.

WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS IS MAIN ARGUMENT FOR THE PROGRAM.

WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS IS YOU SHOULDN'T END THE PROGRAM.

WHAT THE RECOMMENDATION SAYS IS YOU SHOULDN'T END THE PROGRAM.

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T YOU SHOULDN'T END THE PROGRAM.

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T GATHER THE DATA.

THE GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T GATHER THE DATA.

THE PHONE COMPANIES WHICH GATHER THE DATA.

THE PHONE COMPANIES WHICH YOU YOURAVE IT TO SEND THE PHONE COMPANIES WHICH YOU YOURAVE IT TO SEND PHONE BILL SHOULD JUST KEEP IT YOU YOURAVE IT TO SEND PHONE BILL SHOULD JUST KEEP IT OR FORM A LITTLE CONSORTIUM, PHONE BILL SHOULD JUST KEEP IT OR FORM A LITTLE CONSORTIUM, THEY FORM THING THAT OR FORM A LITTLE CONSORTIUM, THEY FORM THING THAT TO HOLD IT ALL AND THEN WHEN THE THEY FORM THING THAT TO HOLD IT ALL AND THEN WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WANTS THEY RING THAT TO HOLD IT ALL AND THEN WHEN THE GOVERNMENT WANTS THEY RING THAT DOOR BELL WITH YOU THE REPORT GOVERNMENT WANTS THEY RING THAT DOOR BELL WITH YOU THE REPORT SAYS THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GET A DOOR BELL WITH YOU THE REPORT SAYS THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GET A JUDGE'S ORDER BEFORE THEY GO IN SAYS THEY SHOULD HAVE TO GET A JUDGE'S ORDER BEFORE THEY GO IN ANY NEEDLES IN THE JUDGE'S ORDER BEFORE THEY GO IN ANY NEEDLES IN THE HAYSTACK.

ANY NEEDLES IN THE HAYSTACK.

>> TALK ABOUT THE FEDERAL HAYSTACK.

>> TALK ABOUT THE FEDERAL DECISION.

>> TALK ABOUT THE FEDERAL DECISION.

HE SAID PARTS OF THE PROGRAM DECISION.

HE SAID PARTS OF THE PROGRAM WERE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

HE SAID PARTS OF THE PROGRAM WERE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

IN WHAT RESPECT?

WERE UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

IN WHAT RESPECT?

>> THE MAIN THRUST OF HIS IN WHAT RESPECT?

>> THE MAIN THRUST OF HIS ARGUMENT IS TO SAY THE SUPREME >> THE MAIN THRUST OF HIS ARGUMENT IS TO SAY THE SUPREME COURT WAS WRONG IN 1979 WHEN IT ARGUMENT IS TO SAY THE SUPREME COURT WAS WRONG IN 1979 WHEN IT CONCLUDED THAT PEOPLE HAVE NO COURT WAS WRONG IN 1979 WHEN IT CONCLUDED THAT PEOPLE HAVE NO PRIVACY IN THE CONCLUDED THAT PEOPLE HAVE NO PRIVACY IN THE PHONE COMPANY KEEPING THE OF PRIVACY IN THE PHONE COMPANY KEEPING THE OF THEIR PHONE CALLS AND THEN PHONE COMPANY KEEPING THE OF THEIR PHONE CALLS AND THEN THE COPS WHEN THE THEIR PHONE CALLS AND THEN THE COPS WHEN THE COPS COME TO GET THEM.

THE COPS WHEN THE COPS COME TO GET THEM.

WHAT JUDGE RICHARD LEON SAID IS COPS COME TO GET THEM.

WHAT JUDGE RICHARD LEON SAID IS AND WE LIVEHANGED WHAT JUDGE RICHARD LEON SAID IS AND WE LIVEHANGED IN WHAT HE CALLED A CELL PHONE AND WE LIVEHANGED IN WHAT HE CALLED A CELL PHONE CENTRIC CULTURE.

IN WHAT HE CALLED A CELL PHONE CENTRIC CULTURE.

WE USE OUR PHONES FOR A LOT MORE CENTRIC CULTURE.

WE USE OUR PHONES FOR A LOT MORE WE EXPECT MORE PROTECTION OF WE USE OUR PHONES FOR A LOT MORE WE EXPECT MORE PROTECTION OF WHAT WE DO WITH THOSE PHONES.

WE EXPECT MORE PROTECTION OF WHAT WE DO WITH THOSE PHONES.

A LOT OFHAS GOTTEN WHAT WE DO WITH THOSE PHONES.

A LOT OFHAS GOTTEN CRITICISM FROM OTHER PEOPLE WHO A LOT OFHAS GOTTEN CRITICISM FROM OTHER PEOPLE WHO SAY WELL, YEAH, YOU USE YOUR CRITICISM FROM OTHER PEOPLE WHO SAY WELL, YEAH, YOU USE YOUR LOT MORE, TO READ SAY WELL, YEAH, YOU USE YOUR LOT MORE, TO READ BOOKS AND HOLD UP AT ROCK LOT MORE, TO READ BOOKS AND HOLD UP AT ROCK CONCERTS AND SHARE PHOTOS AND BOOKS AND HOLD UP AT ROCK CONCERTS AND SHARE PHOTOS AND NONE OF WHICH HAVE CONCERTS AND SHARE PHOTOS AND NONE OF WHICH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PHONE CALLS.

NONE OF WHICH HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH PHONE CALLS.

SOME LEGAL SCHOLAR IS EVEN THINK ANYTHING TO DO WITH PHONE CALLS.

SOME LEGAL SCHOLAR IS EVEN THINK ON OUR PHONES LESS FOR SOME LEGAL SCHOLAR IS EVEN THINK ON OUR PHONES LESS FOR COMMUNICATION NOW.

ON OUR PHONES LESS FOR COMMUNICATION NOW.

IT IS A CONTROVERSIAL PART OF COMMUNICATION NOW.

IT IS A CONTROVERSIAL PART OF HIS RULING BUT IT WAS THE IT IS A CONTROVERSIAL PART OF HIS RULING BUT IT WAS THE ESSENCE OF IT.

HIS RULING BUT IT WAS THE ESSENCE OF IT.

>> WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS FOR ESSENCE OF IT.

>> WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS FOR APPEAL AS A RESULT OF THAT?

>> WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS FOR APPEAL AS A RESULT OF THAT?

>> THE GOVERNMENT WILL CERTAINLY APPEAL AS A RESULT OF THAT?

>> THE GOVERNMENT WILL CERTAINLY APPEAL.

>> THE GOVERNMENT WILL CERTAINLY APPEAL.

IT GOES TO THE D.C. COURT OF APPEAL.

IT GOES TO THE D.C. COURT OF APPEALS HERE IN WASHINGTON.

IT GOES TO THE D.C. COURT OF APPEALS HERE IN WASHINGTON.

THEY MAY OR MAY MOTT AGREE APPEALS HERE IN WASHINGTON.

THEY MAY OR MAY MOTT AGREE WITH HIM.

THEY MAY OR MAY MOTT AGREE WITH HIM.

THIS COULD BE A MORE WITH HIM.

THIS COULD BE A MORE CONSERVATIVE COURT.

THIS COULD BE A MORE CONSERVATIVE COURT.

WILLNOWS WHETHER THAT CONSERVATIVE COURT.

WILLNOWS WHETHER THAT SURVIVE APPEAL.

WILLNOWS WHETHER THAT SURVIVE APPEAL.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT SURVIVE APPEAL.

AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GOES TO THE U.S. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WHAT HAPPENS IF IT GOES TO THE U.S. COURT, WHICH IT SEEMS HAPPENS IF IT GOES TO THE U.S. COURT, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKELY THAT IT WILL ULTIMATELY COURT, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKELY THAT IT WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT.

LIKELY THAT IT WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT.

MEANTIME, JUDGE LEON AT HAVE TO BE WORKED OUT.

MEANTIME, JUDGE LEON AT LEAST SAID WHILE I FEEL STRONGLY MEANTIME, JUDGE LEON AT LEAST SAID WHILE I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS I'M PUTTING MY OWN LEAST SAID WHILE I FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT THIS I'M PUTTING MY OWN RULING ON ICE SO THIS PROGRAM ABOUT THIS I'M PUTTING MY OWN RULING ON ICE SO THIS PROGRAM CAN CONTINUE.

RULING ON ICE SO THIS PROGRAM CAN CONTINUE.

>> HOW IS THE INTELLIGENCE CAN CONTINUE.

>> HOW IS THE INTELLIGENCE RESPONDING TO THE >> HOW IS THE INTELLIGENCE RESPONDING TO THE RULINGS AND DO THEY SUPPORT THEM RESPONDING TO THE RULINGS AND DO THEY SUPPORT THEM MAKE THELY TRYING TO RULINGS AND DO THEY SUPPORT THEM MAKE THELY TRYING TO CASE AGAINST THEM?

MAKE THELY TRYING TO CASE AGAINST THEM?

>> THEY CERTAINLY THINK JUDGE CASE AGAINST THEM?

>> THEY CERTAINLY THINK JUDGE LEON IS WRONG.

>> THEY CERTAINLY THINK JUDGE LEON IS WRONG.

UNITED ON THAT.

LEON IS WRONG.

UNITED ON THAT.

AS FOR THE REPORT I THINK WHAT UNITED ON THAT.

AS FOR THE REPORT I THINK WHAT ANY WILL SAY IS WE RECOGNIZE WE AS FOR THE REPORT I THINK WHAT ANY WILL SAY IS WE RECOGNIZE WE TAKE SOME HITS.

ANY WILL SAY IS WE RECOGNIZE WE TAKE SOME HITS.

WHAT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO TAKE SOME HITS.

WHAT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THEM IS IF THE PRESIDENT ACCEPTS WHAT WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THEM IS IF THE PRESIDENT ACCEPTS ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THEM IS IF THE PRESIDENT ACCEPTS ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT IS SIMPLY TAKING AWAY TOO ALL OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS.

THAT IS SIMPLY TAKING AWAY TOO MANY TOOLS, THEY BELIEVE.

THAT IS SIMPLY TAKING AWAY TOO MANY TOOLS, THEY BELIEVE.

A STRONG FEELING, MANY TOOLS, THEY BELIEVE.

A STRONG FEELING, NOT A UNANIMOUS ONE THAT THEY A STRONG FEELING, NOT A UNANIMOUS ONE THAT THEY SHOULD CONCEDE THE PHONE NOT A UNANIMOUS ONE THAT THEY SHOULD CONCEDE THE PHONE PROGRAM.

SHOULD CONCEDE THE PHONE PROGRAM.

LET THE PHONE COMPANIES KEEP PROGRAM.

LET THE PHONE COMPANIES KEEP THAT IN THE NAME OF OR IN HOPES LET THE PHONE COMPANIES KEEP THAT IN THE NAME OF OR IN HOPES OF THEERVING OTHER PARTS THAT IN THE NAME OF OR IN HOPES OF THEERVING OTHER PARTS INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY'S EFFORTS OF THEERVING OTHER PARTS INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY'S EFFORTS ESPECIALLY THE ABILITY TO LOOK INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY'S EFFORTS ESPECIALLY THE ABILITY TO LOOK OVERSEAS INTERNET ESPECIALLY THE ABILITY TO LOOK OVERSEAS INTERNET COMMUNICATIONS WHICH THEY OVERSEAS INTERNET COMMUNICATIONS WHICH THEY FRANKLY THINK ARE MORE COMMUNICATIONS WHICH THEY FRANKLY THINK ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

FRANKLY THINK ARE MORE IMPORTANT.

GWEN: I FOUND A COUPLE OF THINGS IMPORTANT.

GWEN: I FOUND A COUPLE OF THINGS CURIOUS.

GWEN: I FOUND A COUPLE OF THINGS CURIOUS.

ONE THAT THE TECH C.E.O.

'S CAME CURIOUS.

ONE THAT THE TECH C.E.O.

'S CAME AND HAD THISVALLEY ONE THAT THE TECH C.E.O.

'S CAME AND HAD THISVALLEY BIG MEETING IN THE WHITE HOUSE AND HAD THISVALLEY BIG MEETING IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHICH THEY ALL KEPT TO BIG MEETING IN THE WHITE HOUSE WHICH THEY ALL KEPT TO THEMSELVES.

WHICH THEY ALL KEPT TO THEMSELVES.

THE VERY NEXT DAY THE PRESIDENT THEMSELVES.

THE VERY NEXT DAY THE PRESIDENT WILL RELEASE THIS ORTIZ THE VERY NEXT DAY THE PRESIDENT WILL RELEASE THIS ORTIZ HITS WHITE HOUSE CAME OUT AND WILL RELEASE THIS ORTIZ HITS WHITE HOUSE CAME OUT AND PANELHEY WILL RELEASE THE HITS WHITE HOUSE CAME OUT AND PANELHEY WILL RELEASE THE REVIEW WHICH WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED PANELHEY WILL RELEASE THE REVIEW WHICH WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO SEE UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

REVIEW WHICH WE WEREN'T SUPPOSED TO SEE UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

WHILE EVERYBODY WAS LOOKING AT TO SEE UNTIL NEXT MONTH.

WHILE EVERYBODY WAS LOOKING AT SHAKING HANDS WITH WHILE EVERYBODY WAS LOOKING AT SHAKING HANDS WITH RAUL CASTRO LAST WEEK IN SOUTH SHAKING HANDS WITH RAUL CASTRO LAST WEEK IN SOUTH AFRICA RIGHT NEXT TO HIM WAS THE RAUL CASTRO LAST WEEK IN SOUTH AFRICA RIGHT NEXT TO HIM WAS THE OF BRAZIL WHO CANCELED AFRICA RIGHT NEXT TO HIM WAS THE OF BRAZIL WHO CANCELED THE STATE VISIT BECAUSE SHE OF BRAZIL WHO CANCELED THE STATE VISIT BECAUSE SHE BEING SPIED ON BY THE STATE VISIT BECAUSE SHE BEING SPIED ON BY THE N.S.A.

BEING SPIED ON BY THE N.S.A.

I WONDER HOW MUCH OF WHAT THE THE N.S.A.

I WONDER HOW MUCH OF WHAT THE PRESIDENTS DOING NOW AT THIS I WONDER HOW MUCH OF WHAT THE PRESIDENTS DOING NOW AT THIS MOMENT, WHY NOW IS THE QUESTION, PRESIDENTS DOING NOW AT THIS MOMENT, WHY NOW IS THE QUESTION, IS BEING PUSHED BY THE OUTSIDE MOMENT, WHY NOW IS THE QUESTION, IS BEING PUSHED BY THE OUTSIDE FORCES?

IS BEING PUSHED BY THE OUTSIDE FORCES?

>> WITHOUT QUESTION A GREAT DEAL FORCES?

>> WITHOUT QUESTION A GREAT DEAL OF IT.

>> WITHOUT QUESTION A GREAT DEAL OF IT.

INTERESTING WHAT HE SAID TODAY OF IT.

INTERESTING WHAT HE SAID TODAY ABOUT EDWARD SNOWDEN.

INTERESTING WHAT HE SAID TODAY ABOUT EDWARD SNOWDEN.

THETILL WON'T BUY INTO ABOUT EDWARD SNOWDEN.

THETILL WON'T BUY INTO SAYING THAT NOW THAT IT IS OUT THETILL WON'T BUY INTO SAYING THAT NOW THAT IT IS OUT HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO SAYING THAT NOW THAT IT IS OUT HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE THINGS MORE PUBLIC.

HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE THINGS MORE PUBLIC.

LET THE INTERNET AND PHONE MAKE THINGS MORE PUBLIC.

LET THE INTERNET AND PHONE COMPANIES DISCLOSE WHAT KIND OF LET THE INTERNET AND PHONE COMPANIES DISCLOSE WHAT KIND OF THINGS THE GOVERNMENT IS ASKING COMPANIES DISCLOSE WHAT KIND OF THINGS THE GOVERNMENT IS ASKING FOR.

THINGS THE GOVERNMENT IS ASKING FOR.

BUT ON THE FOREIGN COLLECTION, FOR.

BUT ON THE FOREIGN COLLECTION, YES, ONE OF THE THINGS THE BUT ON THE FOREIGN COLLECTION, YES, ONE OF THE THINGS THE REPORT SAID IS LET'S NOT HAVE YES, ONE OF THE THINGS THE REPORT SAID IS LET'S NOT HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY REPORT SAID IS LET'S NOT HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY DECIDE WHICH FOREIGN LEADERS WE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY DECIDE WHICH FOREIGN LEADERS WE DECIDE WHICH FOREIGN LEADERS WE GOING TO SPY ON.

GOING TO SPY ON.

LET THE PRESIDENT DECIDE THAT WHEN HE THINKS IT IS THE RIGHT LET THE PRESIDENT DECIDE THAT WHEN HE THINKS IT IS THE RIGHT TIME.

WHEN HE THINKS IT IS THE RIGHT TIME.

GWEN: AND TO BE CLEAR HE TIME.

GWEN: AND TO BE CLEAR HE RESISTED THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY GWEN: AND TO BE CLEAR HE RESISTED THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO SAY HE WOULD GRANT AMNESTY OR RESISTED THE OPPORTUNITY TODAY TO SAY HE WOULD GRANT AMNESTY OR ABSOLUTION TO EDWARD SNOWDEN.

TO SAY HE WOULD GRANT AMNESTY OR ABSOLUTION TO EDWARD SNOWDEN.

>> RIGHT.

ABSOLUTION TO EDWARD SNOWDEN.

>> RIGHT.

GWEN: THANK YOU.

>> RIGHT.

GWEN: THANK YOU.

KUDOSESIDENT GAVE MILD GWEN: THANK YOU.

KUDOSESIDENT GAVE MILD TODAY TO THE HOUSE AND THE KUDOSESIDENT GAVE MILD TODAY TO THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE WHICH MANAGED IN ITS TODAY TO THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE WHICH MANAGED IN ITS PASS BEFOREO SENATE WHICH MANAGED IN ITS PASS BEFOREO VACATION, NOT ITS FINAL DAYS.

PASS BEFOREO VACATION, NOT ITS FINAL DAYS.

>> IF ONLY!

VACATION, NOT ITS FINAL DAYS.

>> IF ONLY!

QUITE.OT >> IF ONLY!

QUITE.OT TO PASS A BUDGET, APPROVE A QUITE.OT TO PASS A BUDGET, APPROVE A DEFENSE SPENDING BILL AND TO PASS A BUDGET, APPROVE A DEFENSE SPENDING BILL AND NUMBER OF EXECUTIVE DEFENSE SPENDING BILL AND NUMBER OF EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIAL BRANCH NOMINEES.

NUMBER OF EXECUTIVE AND JUDICIAL BRANCH NOMINEES.

LEAVEID THEY GET DONE AND AND JUDICIAL BRANCH NOMINEES.

LEAVEID THEY GET DONE AND UNDONE, SUE, NOT IN THEIR FINAL LEAVEID THEY GET DONE AND UNDONE, SUE, NOT IN THEIR FINAL DAYS?

UNDONE, SUE, NOT IN THEIR FINAL DAYS?

>> 2013 IS AN INTERESTING YEAR DAYS?

>> 2013 IS AN INTERESTING YEAR FOR CONGRESS.

>> 2013 IS AN INTERESTING YEAR FOR CONGRESS.

LEAST PRODUCTIVE LEGISLATIVE FOR CONGRESS.

LEAST PRODUCTIVE LEGISLATIVE YEAR ON RECORD.

LEAST PRODUCTIVE LEGISLATIVE YEAR ON RECORD.

THAT IS SHOCKING.

YEAR ON RECORD.

THAT IS SHOCKING.

LASTMORE UNPRODUCTIVE THAN THAT IS SHOCKING.

LASTMORE UNPRODUCTIVE THAN YEAR.

LASTMORE UNPRODUCTIVE THAN YEAR.

BUT UNPRODUCTIVE AND YEAR.

BUT UNPRODUCTIVE AND TWOGNIFICANT ARE MAYBE BUT UNPRODUCTIVE AND TWOGNIFICANT ARE MAYBE DIFFERENT THINGS.

TWOGNIFICANT ARE MAYBE DIFFERENT THINGS.

PERHAPS ONE OF DIFFERENT THINGS.

PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT PERHAPS ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT CONGRESS HAS DONE MAYBE NOT ON THE MOST SIGNIFICANT THINGS THAT CONGRESS HAS DONE MAYBE NOT ON THE SUBSTANCE BUT ALSO ON THE CONGRESS HAS DONE MAYBE NOT ON THE SUBSTANCE BUT ALSO ON THE OF IT.S THE SUBSTANCE BUT ALSO ON THE OF IT.S OUR FIRST BIPARTISAN BUDGET OF IT.S OUR FIRST BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL.

OUR FIRST BIPARTISAN BUDGET DEAL.

THREAT OF ATHE DEAL.

THREAT OF ATHE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN FOR AT LEAST THREAT OF ATHE GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN FOR AT LEAST TWO YEARS.

GIVES SOME CERTAINTY TO THE TWO YEARS.

GIVES SOME CERTAINTY TO THE BUDGET PROCESS.

GIVES SOME CERTAINTY TO THE BUDGET PROCESS.

IT WAS AS PATTY MURRAY SAID, BUDGET PROCESS.

IT WAS AS PATTY MURRAY SAID, SOMETHING THAT WOULD HEAL THE IT WAS AS PATTY MURRAY SAID, SOMETHING THAT WOULD HEAL THE OF THE CONGRESS.

SOMETHING THAT WOULD HEAL THE OF THE CONGRESS.

THERE WAS AN IDEA THAT A DIVIDED OF THE CONGRESS.

THERE WAS AN IDEA THAT A DIVIDED WASHINGTON CANNOT GET ANYTHING THERE WAS AN IDEA THAT A DIVIDED WASHINGTON CANNOT GET ANYTHING ANE AND TO END THE YEAR ON WASHINGTON CANNOT GET ANYTHING ANE AND TO END THE YEAR ON NOTE IN WHICH THEY GET SOMETHING ANE AND TO END THE YEAR ON NOTE IN WHICH THEY GET SOMETHING DONE MAY PERHAPS SET A POSITIVE NOTE IN WHICH THEY GET SOMETHING DONE MAY PERHAPS SET A POSITIVE WHAT MAY COME IN 2014.

DONE MAY PERHAPS SET A POSITIVE WHAT MAY COME IN 2014.

THERE IS A LOT TO DO.

WHAT MAY COME IN 2014.

THERE IS A LOT TO DO.

CONGRESS IS ONLY GONE FOR TWO THERE IS A LOT TO DO.

CONGRESS IS ONLY GONE FOR TWO WEEKS.

CONGRESS IS ONLY GONE FOR TWO WEEKS.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THEY WEEKS.

FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THEY NEED TO CONFIRM THE NEXT FEDERAL FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THEY NEED TO CONFIRM THE NEXT FEDERAL CHAIRWOMAN.

NEED TO CONFIRM THE NEXT FEDERAL CHAIRWOMAN.

AN ONGOING FIGHT IN THE SENATE CHAIRWOMAN.

AN ONGOING FIGHT IN THE SENATE FILIBUSTER RULES CHANGE AN ONGOING FIGHT IN THE SENATE FILIBUSTER RULES CHANGE THAT HAS SOURED THE MOOD IN FILIBUSTER RULES CHANGE THAT HAS SOURED THE MOOD IN DECEMBER 28 LEFT THAT HAS SOURED THE MOOD IN DECEMBER 28 LEFT TOWN WITHOUT EXTENDING DECEMBER 28 LEFT TOWN WITHOUT EXTENDING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.

TOWN WITHOUT EXTENDING UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.

WILL SEEON AMERICANS UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS.

WILL SEEON AMERICANS BENEFITS RUN OUT AND THAT IS WILL SEEON AMERICANS BENEFITS RUN OUT AND THAT IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BECOME A BENEFITS RUN OUT AND THAT IS POTENTIALLY GOING TO BECOME A THE UNCOMFORTABLE DEBATE POTENTIALLY GOING TO BECOME A THE UNCOMFORTABLE DEBATE LONGER THEY STAY EXPIRED.

THE UNCOMFORTABLE DEBATE LONGER THEY STAY EXPIRED.

GWEN: AT BEST A TEMPORARY TRUCE.

LONGER THEY STAY EXPIRED.

GWEN: AT BEST A TEMPORARY TRUCE.

AID?OF A BAND GWEN: AT BEST A TEMPORARY TRUCE.

AID?OF A BAND >> STILL A LOT TO DO AND STILL A AID?OF A BAND >> STILL A LOT TO DO AND STILL A LOT OF HARD FEELINGS.

>> STILL A LOT TO DO AND STILL A LOT OF HARD FEELINGS.

A NEW ERA OFIT IS LOT OF HARD FEELINGS.

A NEW ERA OFIT IS COMPROMISE BUT HOPE SPRINGS A NEW ERA OFIT IS COMPROMISE BUT HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL.

COMPROMISE BUT HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL.

MURRAY AND PAUL RYAN ETERNAL.

MURRAY AND PAUL RYAN ARE HOLDING THIS UP AS A GREAT MURRAY AND PAUL RYAN ARE HOLDING THIS UP AS A GREAT SIGN THAT CONGRESS CAN GET ARE HOLDING THIS UP AS A GREAT SIGN THAT CONGRESS CAN GET THINGS DONE.

SIGN THAT CONGRESS CAN GET THINGS DONE.

THERE A CONTRAST BETWEEN THINGS DONE.

THERE A CONTRAST BETWEEN THE STYLE WHICH LOOKED GOOD AND THERE A CONTRAST BETWEEN THE STYLE WHICH LOOKED GOOD AND THE SUBSTANCE?

THE STYLE WHICH LOOKED GOOD AND THE SUBSTANCE?

WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE THE SUBSTANCE?

WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE WHAT DOES THIS TELL US WHEN YOU ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT HOW MUCH MEANINGFULLY CAN WHAT DOES THIS TELL US ABOUT HOW MUCH MEANINGFULLY CAN GET DONE ON THE BUDGET ABOUT HOW MUCH MEANINGFULLY CAN GET DONE ON THE BUDGET ESPECIALLY?

GET DONE ON THE BUDGET ESPECIALLY?

>> FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS WE ESPECIALLY?

>> FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS WE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT GRAND >> FOR THE PAST FEW YEARS WE HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT GRAND BARGAIN.

HEARD SO MUCH ABOUT GRAND BARGAIN.

THE WAY THIS WAS CHARACTERIZED BARGAIN.

THE WAY THIS WAS CHARACTERIZED IT MADE ME LAUGH WAS CALLED THE THE WAY THIS WAS CHARACTERIZED IT MADE ME LAUGH WAS CALLED THE BLAND BAR GAIN.

IT MADE ME LAUGH WAS CALLED THE BLAND BAR GAIN.

NOT -- I MEAN A BLAND BAR GAIN.

NOT -- I MEAN A SMALL DEAL.

NOT -- I MEAN A SMALL DEAL.

IT DOES NOT RADICALLY CHANGE ANY SMALL DEAL.

IT DOES NOT RADICALLY CHANGE ANY NOR DOES ITT POLICY IT DOES NOT RADICALLY CHANGE ANY NOR DOES ITT POLICY REALLY ANSWER THE TOUGH NOR DOES ITT POLICY REALLY ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEFICIT AND REALLY ANSWER THE TOUGH QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEFICIT AND SPENDING AND TAXES.

QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEFICIT AND SPENDING AND TAXES.

IT DOES PROVIDE -- IT DOES SPENDING AND TAXES.

IT DOES PROVIDE -- IT DOES AT LEAST CLEAR THE AIR A LITTLE IT DOES PROVIDE -- IT DOES AT LEAST CLEAR THE AIR A LITTLE GIVE TIME TO MAYBE TRY AT LEAST CLEAR THE AIR A LITTLE GIVE TIME TO MAYBE TRY AND PUT TOGETHER MORE GIVE TIME TO MAYBE TRY AND PUT TOGETHER MORE SUBSTANTIVE LONG-TERM AND PUT TOGETHER MORE SUBSTANTIVE LONG-TERM RESOLUTIONS TO THE QUESTIONS SUBSTANTIVE LONG-TERM RESOLUTIONS TO THE QUESTIONS WITHOUT THE CONSTANT THREAT AND RESOLUTIONS TO THE QUESTIONS WITHOUT THE CONSTANT THREAT AND BRINKSMANSHIP POLITICS.

WITHOUT THE CONSTANT THREAT AND BRINKSMANSHIP POLITICS.

IT IS FAR MORE SIGNIFICANT BRINKSMANSHIP POLITICS.

IT IS FAR MORE SIGNIFICANT POLITICALLY FOR WHAT IT WAS THAN IT IS FAR MORE SIGNIFICANT POLITICALLY FOR WHAT IT WAS THAN WAS SUBSTANTIVELY FOR POLITICALLY FOR WHAT IT WAS THAN WAS SUBSTANTIVELY FOR WHAT IT WILL DO FOR THE FISCAL WAS SUBSTANTIVELY FOR WHAT IT WILL DO FOR THE FISCAL COUNTRY.OF THIS WHAT IT WILL DO FOR THE FISCAL COUNTRY.OF THIS >> THE PRESIDENT TALKED SEVERAL COUNTRY.OF THIS >> THE PRESIDENT TALKED SEVERAL TIMES AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE >> THE PRESIDENT TALKED SEVERAL TIMES AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT IMMIGRATION WHICH IS STILL TIMES AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE ABOUT IMMIGRATION WHICH IS STILL BIG UNDONE ISSUES ON ABOUT IMMIGRATION WHICH IS STILL BIG UNDONE ISSUES ON THE TABLE.

BIG UNDONE ISSUES ON THE TABLE.

DOES THE BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT THE TABLE.

DOES THE BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE DOES THE BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROSPECTS FORGETTING IMMIGRATION TELL US ANYTHING ABOUT THE PROSPECTS FORGETTING IMMIGRATION DONE?

PROSPECTS FORGETTING IMMIGRATION DONE?

AND WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS?

DONE?

AND WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS?

IT DOES.K AND WHAT ARE THE PROSPECTS?

IT DOES.K WHEN YOU ASK LAW MAKERS IT DOES.K WHEN YOU ASK LAW MAKERS PARTICULARLY ONES THAT WOULD WHEN YOU ASK LAW MAKERS PARTICULARLY ONES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN IMMIGRATION BILL.

PARTICULARLY ONES THAT WOULD LIKE TO SEE AN IMMIGRATION BILL.

ELIMINATED THE LIKE TO SEE AN IMMIGRATION BILL.

ELIMINATED THE MANSHIPOF THE BRINKSMANSHIP ELIMINATED THE MANSHIPOF THE BRINKSMANSHIP FREES UP TO WORK ON OTHER MANSHIPOF THE BRINKSMANSHIP FREES UP TO WORK ON OTHER ISSUES.

FREES UP TO WORK ON OTHER ISSUES.

IMMIGRATION IS THE ONE ISSUE ISSUES.

IMMIGRATION IS THE ONE ISSUE HANGING OVER THE CONGRESS.

IMMIGRATION IS THE ONE ISSUE HANGING OVER THE CONGRESS.

HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER HIRED HANGING OVER THE CONGRESS.

HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER HIRED NEW STAFFER TO COME ON WHO IS HOUSE SPEAKER JOHN BOEHNER HIRED NEW STAFFER TO COME ON WHO IS KNOWN FOR THEIR WORK ON NEW STAFFER TO COME ON WHO IS KNOWN FOR THEIR WORK ON IMMIGRATION REFORM WHICH IS SORT KNOWN FOR THEIR WORK ON IMMIGRATION REFORM WHICH IS SORT SIGNAL HE IS NOT KIDDING IMMIGRATION REFORM WHICH IS SORT SIGNAL HE IS NOT KIDDING WHEN HE WANTS TO DO THIS.

SIGNAL HE IS NOT KIDDING WHEN HE WANTS TO DO THIS.

POLITICALE PARTIES HAVE A WHEN HE WANTS TO DO THIS.

POLITICALE PARTIES HAVE A BENEFIT IN MAYBE GETTING POLITICALE PARTIES HAVE A BENEFIT IN MAYBE GETTING SOMETHING DONE BEFORE THE MID BENEFIT IN MAYBE GETTING SOMETHING DONE BEFORE THE MID TERM ELECTIONS.

SOMETHING DONE BEFORE THE MID TERM ELECTIONS.

DIFFICULT.

TERM ELECTIONS.

DIFFICULT.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ESTIMATE DIFFICULT.

I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ESTIMATE REPUBLICANS DOING ANY KIND I DON'T THINK YOU CAN ESTIMATE REPUBLICANS DOING ANY KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION REPUBLICANS DOING ANY KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL NEXT YEAR.

OF COMPREHENSIVE IMMIGRATION BILL NEXT YEAR.

COMPLETELY OFFN BILL NEXT YEAR.

COMPLETELY OFFN THE TABLE NOW?

COMPLETELY OFFN THE TABLE NOW?

>> IT IS NOT COMPLETELY OFF THE THE TABLE NOW?

>> IT IS NOT COMPLETELY OFF THE PURPOSES FOR PRACTICAL >> IT IS NOT COMPLETELY OFF THE PURPOSES FOR PRACTICAL STILL IS.

PURPOSES FOR PRACTICAL STILL IS.

THEY STILL HAVE TO WRITE THE STILL IS.

THEY STILL HAVE TO WRITE THE SPENDING BILLS.

THEY STILL HAVE TO WRITE THE SPENDING BILLS.

THEY AGREED TO HOW MUCH THEY SPENDING BILLS.

THEY AGREED TO HOW MUCH THEY SHOULD SPEND.

THEY AGREED TO HOW MUCH THEY SHOULD SPEND.

WE HAVER IN DEBT CEILING COMING SHOULD SPEND.

WE HAVER IN DEBT CEILING COMING UP.

WE HAVER IN DEBT CEILING COMING UP.

AS LATE AS PERHAPS UP.

AS LATE AS PERHAPS LATE MARCH.

AS LATE AS PERHAPS LATE MARCH.

AND REPUBLICANS INCLUDING PAUL LATE MARCH.

AND REPUBLICANS INCLUDING PAUL GAINWHO CRAFTED THE BAR AND REPUBLICANS INCLUDING PAUL GAINWHO CRAFTED THE BAR AND MITCH MCCONNELL SAID WE WANT GAINWHO CRAFTED THE BAR AND MITCH MCCONNELL SAID WE WANT SOMETHING IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS AND MITCH MCCONNELL SAID WE WANT SOMETHING IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS KNOW WHAT IT IS SOMETHING IN EXCHANGE FOR THIS KNOW WHAT IT IS YET.

KNOW WHAT IT IS YET.

GWEN: THE DEMOCRATS JUST HAPPEN YET.

GWEN: THE DEMOCRATS JUST HAPPEN TO BE RETIRING SO THERE WAS A GWEN: THE DEMOCRATS JUST HAPPEN TO BE RETIRING SO THERE WAS A LITTLE ROOM FOR THEM TO DO THAT, TO BE RETIRING SO THERE WAS A LITTLE ROOM FOR THEM TO DO THAT, HOW MUCH IS THE HEALTHCARE LITTLE ROOM FOR THEM TO DO THAT, HOW MUCH IS THE HEALTHCARE DEBATE POISONING EVERYTHING ELSE HOW MUCH IS THE HEALTHCARE DEBATE POISONING EVERYTHING ELSE MIGHT HAPPEN OR DEBATE POISONING EVERYTHING ELSE MIGHT HAPPEN OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN?

MIGHT HAPPEN OR MIGHT NOT HAPPEN?

OPPORTUNITIES ESPECIALLY TEA MIGHT NOT HAPPEN?

OPPORTUNITIES ESPECIALLY TEA REPUBLICANS SEE TO -- OPPORTUNITIES ESPECIALLY TEA REPUBLICANS SEE TO -- >> I THINK IT IS PLAYING OUT REPUBLICANS SEE TO -- >> I THINK IT IS PLAYING OUT MUCH MORE IN POLITICAL RACES >> I THINK IT IS PLAYING OUT MUCH MORE IN POLITICAL RACES HILL.T IS ON CAPITOL MUCH MORE IN POLITICAL RACES HILL.T IS ON CAPITOL THERE IS NOT MUCH LEGISLATIVELY HILL.T IS ON CAPITOL THERE IS NOT MUCH LEGISLATIVELY THAT CONGRESS DOING RIGHT NOW THERE IS NOT MUCH LEGISLATIVELY THAT CONGRESS DOING RIGHT NOW ABOUT HEALTHCARE.

THAT CONGRESS DOING RIGHT NOW ABOUT HEALTHCARE.

NOW IT ABOUTS IMPLEMENTATION AND ABOUT HEALTHCARE.

NOW IT ABOUTS IMPLEMENTATION AND SELLING IT AND MESSAGING.

NOW IT ABOUTS IMPLEMENTATION AND SELLING IT AND MESSAGING.

PLAYING A ROLE IN DOING THAT IN SELLING IT AND MESSAGING.

PLAYING A ROLE IN DOING THAT IN AND IN THEOOTS LEVEL PLAYING A ROLE IN DOING THAT IN AND IN THEOOTS LEVEL DISTRICTS.

AND IN THEOOTS LEVEL DISTRICTS.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN HUGELY DISTRICTS.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN HUGELY DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE ROLLOUT.

THE DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN HUGELY DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE ROLLOUT.

THINK IT SENT DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE ROLLOUT.

THINK IT SENT SOME FEAR THROUGH THE RANKS AND THINK IT SENT SOME FEAR THROUGH THE RANKS AND SEPTEMBER SOME ANGER TOWARDS THE SOME FEAR THROUGH THE RANKS AND SEPTEMBER SOME ANGER TOWARDS THE WHITE HOUSE.

SEPTEMBER SOME ANGER TOWARDS THE WHITE HOUSE.

I THINK THAT THEY ARE WHITE HOUSE.

I THINK THAT THEY ARE HOPEFUL THAT IF THE WEBSITE CAN I THINK THAT THEY ARE HOPEFUL THAT IF THE WEBSITE CAN TURN AROUND AND IMPLEMENTATION HOPEFUL THAT IF THE WEBSITE CAN TURN AROUND AND IMPLEMENTATION NUMBERS HIT THEIR MARKS COME TURN AROUND AND IMPLEMENTATION NUMBERS HIT THEIR MARKS COME SPRING THEY WILL BE SINGING A NUMBERS HIT THEIR MARKS COME SPRING THEY WILL BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE.

SPRING THEY WILL BE SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE.

GWEN: AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO DIFFERENT TUNE.

GWEN: AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

GWEN: AND AT LEAST BE ABLE TO CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

>> EXACTLY.

CHANGE THE SUBJECT.

>> EXACTLY.

WHICH IS WHAT THEY DESPERATELY >> EXACTLY.

WHICH IS WHAT THEY DESPERATELY WOULD LIKE TO DO.

WHICH IS WHAT THEY DESPERATELY WOULD LIKE TO DO.

GWEN: IT IS NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT WOULD LIKE TO DO.

GWEN: IT IS NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT STARTED TODAY'S GWEN: IT IS NOT AN ACCIDENT THAT THE PRESIDENT STARTED TODAY'S NEWS CONFERENCE BY BOASTING OF THE PRESIDENT STARTED TODAY'S NEWS CONFERENCE BY BOASTING OF RECOVERING ECONOMY.

NEWS CONFERENCE BY BOASTING OF RECOVERING ECONOMY.

TWO MILLION JOBS CREATED THIS RECOVERING ECONOMY.

TWO MILLION JOBS CREATED THIS YEAR.

TWO MILLION JOBS CREATED THIS YEAR.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN YEAR.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN FIVE YEARS AND JUST THIS MONTH A UNEMPLOYMENT RATE IN FIVE YEARS AND JUST THIS MONTH A HALF MILLION PEOPLE ENROLLED IN FIVE YEARS AND JUST THIS MONTH A HALF MILLION PEOPLE ENROLLED IN HEALTHCARE EXCHANGE HALF MILLION PEOPLE ENROLLED IN HEALTHCARE EXCHANGE PROGRAM THAT GOT OFF TO SUCH A HEALTHCARE EXCHANGE PROGRAM THAT GOT OFF TO SUCH A HORRIBLE START.

PROGRAM THAT GOT OFF TO SUCH A HORRIBLE START.

IS HE RIGHT THAT THINGS ARE HORRIBLE START.

IS HE RIGHT THAT THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER OR IS THERE IS HE RIGHT THAT THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE GETTING BETTER OR IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON, GREG?

SOMETHING ELSE THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON, GREG?

>> RIGHT THAT THINGS ARE GETTING GOING ON, GREG?

>> RIGHT THAT THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER.

>> RIGHT THAT THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER.

MISTAKE HE STARTED THE PRESS BETTER.

MISTAKE HE STARTED THE PRESS CONFERENCE THAT WAY.

MISTAKE HE STARTED THE PRESS CONFERENCE THAT WAY.

JONES TO YETHE DOW CONFERENCE THAT WAY.

JONES TO YETHE DOW ANOTHER RECORD CLOSE.

JONES TO YETHE DOW ANOTHER RECORD CLOSE.

THE BEST YEAR SINCE 1998 FOR THE ANOTHER RECORD CLOSE.

THE BEST YEAR SINCE 1998 FOR THE MARKET.

THE BEST YEAR SINCE 1998 FOR THE MARKET.

GWEN: DID IT STAY UP AS HE MARKET.

GWEN: DID IT STAY UP AS HE SPOKE?

GWEN: DID IT STAY UP AS HE SPOKE?

>> I DIDN'T WATCH IT MINUTE BY SPOKE?

>> I DIDN'T WATCH IT MINUTE BY MINUTE.

>> I DIDN'T WATCH IT MINUTE BY MINUTE.

RECORD.ED AT ANOTHER MINUTE.

RECORD.ED AT ANOTHER THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

RECORD.ED AT ANOTHER THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO THE NUMBERS DON'T LIE.

THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE ECONOMY IS THERE IS ENOUGH EVIDENCE TO SUGGEST THAT THE ECONOMY IS BIT OF AN YEAR ON A SUGGEST THAT THE ECONOMY IS BIT OF AN YEAR ON A UPSWING.

BIT OF AN YEAR ON A UPSWING.

AS YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF JOBS UPSWING.

AS YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF JOBS BEING CREATED.

AS YOU MENTIONED A LOT OF JOBS BEING CREATED.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE COMING DOWN.

BEING CREATED.

UNEMPLOYMENT RATE COMING DOWN.

THIS MORNING WE LEARNED THAT THE UNEMPLOYMENT RATE COMING DOWN.

THIS MORNING WE LEARNED THAT THE RA 4.1% ANNUAL THIS MORNING WE LEARNED THAT THE RA 4.1% ANNUAL IRATETHE N THIRD QUARTER.

RA 4.1% ANNUAL IRATETHE N THIRD QUARTER.

THE FASTEST IN TWO YEARS.

IRATETHE N THIRD QUARTER.

THE FASTEST IN TWO YEARS.

STARTINGOTHER THINGS THE FASTEST IN TWO YEARS.

STARTINGOTHER THINGS TO LOOK GOOD.

STARTINGOTHER THINGS TO LOOK GOOD.

IT GOES TO THE SAYING THAT WE TO LOOK GOOD.

IT GOES TO THE SAYING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ALL HOPING FOR A IT GOES TO THE SAYING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ALL HOPING FOR A NOTNG RECOVERY AND KEEP HAVE BEEN ALL HOPING FOR A NOTNG RECOVERY AND KEEP GETTING IT.

NOTNG RECOVERY AND KEEP GETTING IT.

I THINK NUMBERS ARE LINING UP IN GETTING IT.

I THINK NUMBERS ARE LINING UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT NEXT YEAR COULD I THINK NUMBERS ARE LINING UP IN SUCH A WAY THAT NEXT YEAR COULD AS THE PRESIDENT SAYS THE SUCH A WAY THAT NEXT YEAR COULD AS THE PRESIDENT SAYS THE BREAKTHROUGH YEAR.

AS THE PRESIDENT SAYS THE BREAKTHROUGH YEAR.

DIFFERENTLY AND SAID HE COULD BREAKTHROUGH YEAR.

DIFFERENTLY AND SAID HE COULD EYES OFWHITES OF THE DIFFERENTLY AND SAID HE COULD EYES OFWHITES OF THE THE ECONOMY.

EYES OFWHITES OF THE THE ECONOMY.

FIGHTING THE ECONOMY.

THE ECONOMY.

FIGHTING THE ECONOMY.

GWEN: BUT HE WAS MAKING THE FIGHTING THE ECONOMY.

GWEN: BUT HE WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN GWEN: BUT HE WAS MAKING THE POINT THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER ENOUGH IT WAS OKAY FOR POINT THAT THINGS HAVE GOTTEN BETTER ENOUGH IT WAS OKAY FOR EASE OFF THE PEDAL.

BETTER ENOUGH IT WAS OKAY FOR EASE OFF THE PEDAL.

>> IF IN FACT, ORDINARILY WHEN EASE OFF THE PEDAL.

>> IF IN FACT, ORDINARILY WHEN RESERVE STARTS TO >> IF IN FACT, ORDINARILY WHEN RESERVE STARTS TO WITHDRAW THE PUNCH IN THE PUNCH RESERVE STARTS TO WITHDRAW THE PUNCH IN THE PUNCH BOWL YOU GET WORRIED.

WITHDRAW THE PUNCH IN THE PUNCH BOWL YOU GET WORRIED.

CASE THE STOCK MARKET BOWL YOU GET WORRIED.

CASE THE STOCK MARKET REACTED EUPHORICALLY.

CASE THE STOCK MARKET REACTED EUPHORICALLY.

THAT VINDICATES THE POLICY OF REACTED EUPHORICALLY.

THAT VINDICATES THE POLICY OF PUMPING THE STIMULUS INTO THE THAT VINDICATES THE POLICY OF PUMPING THE STIMULUS INTO THE ECONOMY TO THE POINT IT NO PUMPING THE STIMULUS INTO THE ECONOMY TO THE POINT IT NO LONGER NEEDS IT, IT IS GROWING ECONOMY TO THE POINT IT NO LONGER NEEDS IT, IT IS GROWING ON ITS OWN.

LONGER NEEDS IT, IT IS GROWING ON ITS OWN.

SAID I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ON ITS OWN.

SAID I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WIND DOWN THIS SAID I'M GLAD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO WIND DOWN THIS OF DE FACTOROGRAM ABLE TO WIND DOWN THIS OF DE FACTOROGRAM PRINTING MONEY TO BUY BONDS OF DE FACTOROGRAM PRINTING MONEY TO BUY BONDS WORKED.IT FINALLY PRINTING MONEY TO BUY BONDS WORKED.IT FINALLY THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SUDDENLY WORKED.IT FINALLY THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SUDDENLY RACING INTEREST THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT SUDDENLY RACING INTEREST RATES.

RACING INTEREST RATES.

THEY WILL KEEP RATES AT AROUND RATES.

THEY WILL KEEP RATES AT AROUND ZERO UNTIL AROUND 2015.

THEY WILL KEEP RATES AT AROUND ZERO UNTIL AROUND 2015.

I THINK THEY FINALLY DO SEE THE ZERO UNTIL AROUND 2015.

I THINK THEY FINALLY DO SEE THE RECOVERY THEY HAVE BEEN HOPING I THINK THEY FINALLY DO SEE THE RECOVERY THEY HAVE BEEN HOPING ALL THISUSHING FOR RECOVERY THEY HAVE BEEN HOPING ALL THISUSHING FOR TIME.

ALL THISUSHING FOR TIME.

AND SINCE THIS IS BERNANKE'S TIME.

AND SINCE THIS IS BERNANKE'S LIKE LAST SIX WEEKS IN OFFICE IT AND SINCE THIS IS BERNANKE'S LIKE LAST SIX WEEKS IN OFFICE IT FEEL SWEET TO HIM.

LIKE LAST SIX WEEKS IN OFFICE IT FEEL SWEET TO HIM.

>> HOW DIFFERENT WOULD YELLIN BE FEEL SWEET TO HIM.

>> HOW DIFFERENT WOULD YELLIN BE SHE IS IN FACT CONFIRMED?

>> HOW DIFFERENT WOULD YELLIN BE SHE IS IN FACT CONFIRMED?

>> THE SENATE VOTED TO PROCEED SHE IS IN FACT CONFIRMED?

>> THE SENATE VOTED TO PROCEED CONFIRMATION VOTE.

>> THE SENATE VOTED TO PROCEED CONFIRMATION VOTE.

IT LOOKS LIKE A DONE DEAL THAT CONFIRMATION VOTE.

IT LOOKS LIKE A DONE DEAL THAT SHE WILL BE CONFIRMED.

IT LOOKS LIKE A DONE DEAL THAT SHE WILL BE CONFIRMED.

EVENTFULD BE THE LEAST SHE WILL BE CONFIRMED.

EVENTFULD BE THE LEAST TRANSITION OF FED CHAIRMAN EVER.

EVENTFULD BE THE LEAST TRANSITION OF FED CHAIRMAN EVER.

BUTONLY A KNOWN QUANTITY TRANSITION OF FED CHAIRMAN EVER.

BUTONLY A KNOWN QUANTITY HAS BEENED A BERNANKE'S SIDE FOR BUTONLY A KNOWN QUANTITY HAS BEENED A BERNANKE'S SIDE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

HAS BEENED A BERNANKE'S SIDE FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS.

ASKED IN HIS PRESS THE LAST FEW YEARS.

ASKED IN HIS PRESS CONFERENCE DID YOU CONSULT ASKED IN HIS PRESS CONFERENCE DID YOU CONSULT YELLIN ABOUTJANET CONFERENCE DID YOU CONSULT YELLIN ABOUTJANET THE DECISION TO PULL BACK ON THE YELLIN ABOUTJANET THE DECISION TO PULL BACK ON THE DOWN?UYING AND WIND IT THE DECISION TO PULL BACK ON THE DOWN?UYING AND WIND IT HE SAID WE CONSULTED CLOSELY AND DOWN?UYING AND WIND IT HE SAID WE CONSULTED CLOSELY AND HE HAS BEEN CONSULTING CLOSELY HE SAID WE CONSULTED CLOSELY AND HE HAS BEEN CONSULTING CLOSELY LONG TIME.R A VERY HE HAS BEEN CONSULTING CLOSELY LONG TIME.R A VERY IT WILL BE HARD TO SEE ANY LONG TIME.R A VERY IT WILL BE HARD TO SEE ANY DAYLIGHT BETWEEN THE POLICY SHE IT WILL BE HARD TO SEE ANY DAYLIGHT BETWEEN THE POLICY SHE PURSUES IN THREE MONTH'S TIME DAYLIGHT BETWEEN THE POLICY SHE PURSUES IN THREE MONTH'S TIME AND THE POLICY HE PURSUES.

PURSUES IN THREE MONTH'S TIME AND THE POLICY HE PURSUES.

>> THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE AND THE POLICY HE PURSUES.

>> THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WARNED >> THE WHITE HOUSE IN THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WARNED THAT THE SEQUESTER WOULD BE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR WARNED THAT THE SEQUESTER WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THE ECONOMY.

THAT THE SEQUESTER WOULD BE DEVASTATING TO THE ECONOMY.

WARNINGS DURING THE SHUTDOWN DEVASTATING TO THE ECONOMY.

WARNINGS DURING THE SHUTDOWN HAVE TREMENDOUS WARNINGS DURING THE SHUTDOWN HAVE TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY.

HAVE TREMENDOUS IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY.

G.D.P.ICATORS LIKE THE IMPACT ON THE ECONOMY.

G.D.P.ICATORS LIKE THE GROWTH AND FED CHANGING POLICY G.D.P.ICATORS LIKE THE GROWTH AND FED CHANGING POLICY SEEM TO BE SIGNS OF STRONG GROWTH AND FED CHANGING POLICY SEEM TO BE SIGNS OF STRONG ECONOMIC GROWTH.

SEEM TO BE SIGNS OF STRONG ECONOMIC GROWTH.

MAN WITH AN ASSAULT IS THE ECONOMIC GROWTH.

MAN WITH AN ASSAULT IS THE DISCONNECT?

MAN WITH AN ASSAULT IS THE DISCONNECT?

>> SURPRISING.

DISCONNECT?

>> SURPRISING.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SHUTDOWN >> SURPRISING.

IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SHUTDOWN THE WHITE HOUSE IF YOU GO BACK TO THE SHUTDOWN THE WHITE HOUSE COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISORS THE WHITE HOUSE COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISORS SAYING THIS WILL COST US JOBS COUNCIL OF ECONOMIC ADVISORS SAYING THIS WILL COST US JOBS OUT TO BE ONE OF SAYING THIS WILL COST US JOBS OUT TO BE ONE OF THE BEST JOB CREATING MONTHS IN OUT TO BE ONE OF THE BEST JOB CREATING MONTHS IN THE YEAR.

THE BEST JOB CREATING MONTHS IN THE YEAR.

UNDERLYING GROUND THE YEAR.

UNDERLYING GROUND SWELL OF STRENGTH IN THE ECONOMY UNDERLYING GROUND SWELL OF STRENGTH IN THE ECONOMY SUCH IT WOULD HAVE GROWN EVEN SWELL OF STRENGTH IN THE ECONOMY SUCH IT WOULD HAVE GROWN EVEN ABSENT THE DOWNWARD SUCH IT WOULD HAVE GROWN EVEN ABSENT THE DOWNWARD PRESSURE FROM THE SEQUESTER.

ABSENT THE DOWNWARD PRESSURE FROM THE SEQUESTER.

THE C.B.O.

ESTIMATES WE WOULD PRESSURE FROM THE SEQUESTER.

THE C.B.O.

ESTIMATES WE WOULD HAVE GROWN 1 1/2 PERCENTAGE THE C.B.O.

ESTIMATES WE WOULD HAVE GROWN 1 1/2 PERCENTAGE POINTS FAST THEY ARE YEAR ABSENT HAVE GROWN 1 1/2 PERCENTAGE POINTS FAST THEY ARE YEAR ABSENT ALL THAT FISCAL RESTRAINT.

POINTS FAST THEY ARE YEAR ABSENT ALL THAT FISCAL RESTRAINT.

THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU ALL THAT FISCAL RESTRAINT.

THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU RELATIVELY OPTIMISTIC THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU RELATIVELY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT LAST YEAR.

RELATIVELY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT LAST YEAR.

NOT SO MUCH THAT A LOT OF GREAT ABOUT LAST YEAR.

NOT SO MUCH THAT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

NOT SO MUCH THAT A LOT OF GREAT THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

CONSTANTLYWE ARE NOT THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

CONSTANTLYWE ARE NOT KICKING THE ECONOMY IN THE SHINS CONSTANTLYWE ARE NOT KICKING THE ECONOMY IN THE SHINS LIKE WE HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS.

KICKING THE ECONOMY IN THE SHINS LIKE WE HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WHATVE US A SENSE OF LIKE WE HAVE THE LAST FEW YEARS.

WHATVE US A SENSE OF BERNANKE'S LAST PRESS CONFERENCE WHATVE US A SENSE OF BERNANKE'S LAST PRESS CONFERENCE WAS LIKE?

BERNANKE'S LAST PRESS CONFERENCE WAS LIKE?

ANHAS BEEN THROUGH WAS LIKE?

ANHAS BEEN THROUGH INCREDIBLE PERIOD OF THE ECONOMY ANHAS BEEN THROUGH INCREDIBLE PERIOD OF THE ECONOMY AND HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH SOME INCREDIBLE PERIOD OF THE ECONOMY AND HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH SOME TERRIBLY DIFFICULT THINGS.

AND HAS HAD TO DEAL WITH SOME TERRIBLY DIFFICULT THINGS.

OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF TERRIBLY DIFFICULT THINGS.

OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT AND IN DIFFERENT WAY IN TWO OUT THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT AND IN DIFFERENT WAY IN TWO WAYS.

THAT AND IN DIFFERENT WAY IN TWO WAYS.

END AND THE ECONOMY IS WAYS.

END AND THE ECONOMY IS DOING BETTER.

END AND THE ECONOMY IS DOING BETTER.

WHAT DID HE SEEM LIKE?

DOING BETTER.

WHAT DID HE SEEM LIKE?

US THOUGHT HE MIGHT WHAT DID HE SEEM LIKE?

US THOUGHT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIGHTER IN HIS STEP US THOUGHT HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN LIGHTER IN HIS STEP TELL?E CAME INTO THE ROOM.

: YOU HAVE BEEN LIGHTER IN HIS STEP TELL?E CAME INTO THE ROOM.

: YOU >> IT WAS A RATHER LONG PRESS TELL?E CAME INTO THE ROOM.

: YOU >> IT WAS A RATHER LONG PRESS CONFERENCE.

>> IT WAS A RATHER LONG PRESS CONFERENCE.

LONGER.20 MINUTES CONFERENCE.

LONGER.20 MINUTES NOT NORMALLY A PERSON WHO LONGER.20 MINUTES NOT NORMALLY A PERSON WHO BEING GRILLED LIKE NOT NORMALLY A PERSON WHO BEING GRILLED LIKE THIS TENDS TO DO.

BEING GRILLED LIKE THIS TENDS TO DO.

HE WAS A MONETARY HISTORIAN THIS TENDS TO DO.

HE WAS A MONETARY HISTORIAN TOOK THE JOB.

HE WAS A MONETARY HISTORIAN TOOK THE JOB.

HE WAS ASKED HOW DO YOU THINK TOOK THE JOB.

HE WAS ASKED HOW DO YOU THINK LOOK BACKTORIANS WILL HE WAS ASKED HOW DO YOU THINK LOOK BACKTORIANS WILL ON YOUR DENTURE.

LOOK BACKTORIANS WILL ON YOUR DENTURE.

SAVING THE ECONOMY FROM ON YOUR DENTURE.

SAVING THE ECONOMY FROM HOW IT WILL PEOPLED SAVING THE ECONOMY FROM HOW IT WILL PEOPLED THINK ABOUT HOW THEY COPED WITH HOW IT WILL PEOPLED THINK ABOUT HOW THEY COPED WITH THE LIMITATIONS WHAT HAVE DO YOU THINK ABOUT HOW THEY COPED WITH THE LIMITATIONS WHAT HAVE DO YOU TO HELP AN ECONOMY WHEN THE THE LIMITATIONS WHAT HAVE DO YOU TO HELP AN ECONOMY WHEN THE MAIN TOOL, SHORT-TERM INTEREST TO HELP AN ECONOMY WHEN THE MAIN TOOL, SHORT-TERM INTEREST IS AT ZERO.

MAIN TOOL, SHORT-TERM INTEREST IS AT ZERO.

RARELY DO YOU HEAR A LEADER IS AT ZERO.

RARELY DO YOU HEAR A LEADER AT HIS LEVEL IN RARELY DO YOU HEAR A LEADER AT HIS LEVEL IN WASHINGTON ADMIT TO MISTAKES.

AT HIS LEVEL IN WASHINGTON ADMIT TO MISTAKES.

HE ADMITTED THEY WERE TOO SLOW WASHINGTON ADMIT TO MISTAKES.

HE ADMITTED THEY WERE TOO SLOW TO SEE THE CRISIS COMING AND TOO HE ADMITTED THEY WERE TOO SLOW TO SEE THE CRISIS COMING AND TOO SLOW TO REACT.

TO SEE THE CRISIS COMING AND TOO SLOW TO REACT.

GWEN: MUST WE NICE TO BE LEAVING SLOW TO REACT.

GWEN: MUST WE NICE TO BE LEAVING TOWN TO SAY OH, BY THE WAY, I GWEN: MUST WE NICE TO BE LEAVING TOWN TO SAY OH, BY THE WAY, I DID MAKE A FEW MISTAKES.

TOWN TO SAY OH, BY THE WAY, I DID MAKE A FEW MISTAKES.

LEAVE YOU FOR NOW.

DID MAKE A FEW MISTAKES.

LEAVE YOU FOR NOW.

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