>> THANKS FOR JOINING US ON THE WEEK IN REVIEW.

I'M PARIS SHOTS THE CITY'S LONGEST EVER SERVING ALDERMAN CHAIRMAN OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ADDS ONE MORE TITLE TO HIS LEGACY.

CONVICTED FELON.

>> AFTER LESS THAN 3 DAYS OF DELIBERATIONS, JURORS CONVICTED BURKE ON 13 OF 14 CORRUPTION CHARGES CONNECTED TO HIS ATTEMPTS TO GET RICH OFF OF OFFICIAL CITY ACTIONS, BRIBERY AND EXTORTION.

OCCURRING AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS OF CHICAGO CITY GOVERNMENT PROSECUTORS SCORE NEARLY A CLEAN SWEEP ON BURKE AND BUSINESSMAN CHARLES, KUWAIT.

LONGTIME BURKE ASSOCIATE PETER ANDREWS IS ACQUITTED.

THE CONVICTION CAPS A HISTORIC DOWNFALL FOR THE MAN CONSIDERED THE DEAN OF CITY COUNCIL CONFIRMATION THAT HE USED HIS POWERFUL PUBLIC PERCH TO STEER BUSINESS TO HIS PRIVATE PROPERTY TAX COMPANY.

THE LOSS OF A CHILD.

THIS BREAKING ALL OF OURS.

THE DEATH OF 5 YEAR-OLD JOHN CARLOS MARTINEZ.

RIVERO BRINGS TO LIGHT TROUBLING CONDITIONS AND OVERCROWDED MIGRANT SHELTER IN PILSEN.

THIS AS MIGRANTS ARRIVED THIS WEEK VIA A CHARTERED PLANE FROM TEXAS.

AND IN SPORTS.

SLIM PLAYOFF HOPES NOW LIKELY EXTINGUISHED AFTER SNATCHING DEFEAT FROM THE JAWS OF VICTORY.

>> AND THAT OUR WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL JOINING US OUR OUR VERY OWN HEATHER SHARON, ALTON LOWRY OF WBEZ, MICHAEL LAURIA OF THE CHICAGO SUN-TIMES AND RAY LONG OF THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE.

LET'S GET RIGHT INTO IT A LITTLE BIT TO TALK ABOUT THIS WEEK A LONG FIRST OFF SET THE SCENE FOR US AT THE DIRKSEN FEDERAL BUILDING.

WAS THE TENOR LIKE IN THE COURTROOM?

>> WHEN THAT VERDICT WAS READ?

REALLY DID NOT HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF EMOTION THAT HE SHOWED THAT HE HAD HAD BEEN SITTING THERE KIND OF WITH HIS HANDS AND ON THE TABLE WAITING PATIENTLY AND IT MAY BE CHECKING OUT HIS PHONE SEEING IF ANYTHING, WAS HE A PUNT AND WHEN THEY START READING THE VERDICT, PUT HIS HEAD DOWN AND IT IS HANDS AND JUST KIND OF WAITED FOR THE REST OF DOMINOES TO FALL BECAUSE ONCE THEY HIT THAT RECORD TEARING CHARGE AND THAT WAS THE BIG ONE, IT WAS A TROUBLE BECAUSE THAT COMES WITH A MAXIMUM OF 20 YEARS.

HE WON'T GET THAT PROBABLY.

BUT IT IS A HEAVY HAMMER TO DEAL WITH NIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS RECORD TEARING CHARGE WAS THE TOUGHEST ONE TO PROVE A LOT OF THINGS.

A LOT OF BOXES HAVE TO BE CHECKED.

HEATHER SHOWING YOU WERE THERE ALMOST EVERY DAY.

>> ONE HIS FAMILY.

WHAT ABOUT THE WITNESSING US IN THE COURT WHAT REALLY THE BIGGEST REACTION WE SAW WAS FROM AND BURKE, THE FORMER CHIEF JUSTICE OF THE ILLINOIS SUPREME COURT AFTER THE VERDICT WAS READ AND JURY WAS FILING OUT, SHE GOT UP AND SORT OF GAZE AT BURKE A HUG AND A KISS AND SORT OF PATTED HIS BACK WHILE THAT WAS HAPPENING.

PETE ANDREWS, HIS LONGTIME AIDE WHO HAD BEEN ACQUITTED ON ALL COUNTS WAS SORT OF CELEBRATING QUIETLY WITH HIS ATTORNEYS SORT OF HUGGING AND, YOU KNOW, HANDSHAKES.

AND YOU COULD SEE A BROAD SMILE BREAK OUT OVER AT BERKS FACE.

IT WAS CLEAR THAT HE WAS PLEASED TO SEE HIS LONGTIME FRIEND ACQUITTED.

HE, IN FACT, PAID FOR PETE ANDREWS DEFENSE.

PAID ALMOST $200,000 MORE THAN THAT OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS.

THAT WAS MONEY.

WELL SPENT NOT SO MUCH REMINDERS ABOUT PETE ANDREW'S ROLE IN THIS AND WHY YOU THINK HE WAS ACQUITTED.

SO PETE ANDREWS HAS WORKED IN PARKS, 14TH WORD OFFICE FOR DECADES, AND HE WAS REALLY A FUNCTIONARY.

ED BURKE SAID, MAKE SURE THIS GUY GETS A PERMIT, MAKE SURE THAT GUY DOESN'T GET APARTMENT AND THE JURY, I THINK BELIEVED THAT PETE ANDREWS DIDN'T UNDERSTAND OR DIDN'T KNOW OR WASN'T PART OF THE OVERALL SCHEME TO SORT OF TAKE THE OWNERS, THE BURGER KING AND EXTORT THEM FROM TO GET, YOU KNOW, HIS PRIVATE LAW FIRM PRACTICE HIRED.

THERE WAS NO DIRECT EVIDENCE WITH PETE SAYING, YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS IS A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE ON LIKE WE HAD FROM ALDERMAN BURKE IN THE OTHER CO-DEFENDANT, CHARLES, QUITE AND I THINK PETE, ANDREW'S LAWYERS WERE VERY EFFECTIVE IN SORT OF PAINTING HIM AS LIKE SORT OF A SUCH A ALMOST, YOU KNOW, PART-TIME PETE.

THEY CALLED HIM LUNCH PAIL, PETE AND THEY REALLY LAID IT ON THICK THAT, YOU KNOW, PETE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SORT OF INTENT TO DECEIVE THE FBI AGENTS WHEN THEY ARRIVED ON HIS DOOR.

YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THEY GAVE THE JURY A WAY TO SORT OF SAY, YOU KNOW, MAYBE HE WASN'T INVOLVED AND THEY SENT HIM HOME, SAYS CERTAINLY AN EFFECTIVE DEFENSE.

ALTON LOWRY, WE WITNESSED THE GEORGE RYAN TRIAL THAT TOOK SOMETHING LIKE 10 DAYS FOR A JURY TO COME TO A VERDICT.

THE FIRST THAT CHILD 14 DAYS AND THEN IT'S A HUNG JURY.

>> 10 DAYS FOR THE SECOND TRIAL.

YOU SURPRISED THAT SUCH A RELATIVELY SWIFT VERDICT 14 COUNTS?

>> NO, NOT REALLY.

I MEAN, GOING THROUGH THE CASE A LOT.

I'VE BEEN LAID OUT FOR DIFFERENT SCHEMES.

I'D SEEN PRETTY CLEAR AND I THINK BERKS REPUTATION PRECEDED HIM COMING INTO THIS TRIAL, THOUGH, NOT ACCORDING SOME OF THE JURORS, MANY OF THEM WHEN THEY WERE INTERVIEWED, SAID THEY HAD NEVER HEARD OF THEM BEFORE WELL.

I I THOUGHT THAT IN TERMS OF THE CASE THAT WAS LAID OUT, I THINK IT WAS PRETTY MAYBE TO MY DEGREE THAT MY UNDERSTANDING OF HOW AND BURKE HAS BEEN AND PASS IS HAPPENED IN CHICAGO.

I THINK IT WAS AN EASY CONCLUSION FOR SOMEONE WHO HAD A FAMILIARITY WITH THAT BACKGROUND TO WANT TO MAKE.

BUT THINK ABOUT THIS.

THERE'S A BUSINESS OWNER THAT WANTS TO GET SOMETHING VERY MINOR DONE, IS THERE EVEN A CONVERSATION ABOUT PROPERTY TAX LITERALLY.

THEY TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING THE THE YOU KNOW, THE CITY WAS LIKE A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE FROM BURKE.

ALDERMANIC PREROGATIVE.

IN THE WAY WE'VE DONE BUSINESS IN CHICAGO POLITICALLY, THE FINANCE CHAIR, A COMMITTEE CHAIRMANSHIP.

THERE'S JUST TOO MUCH POWER IN THE HANDS OF ONE PERSON.

AND WE'VE ALLOWED THAT SET UP IN CHICAGO POLITICS.

AND I'M HOPING THAT IN ADDITION TO BURKE FALLING THAT THIS THIS PARADIGM THAT WE USE POLITICAL IN CHICAGO, EVEN RIGHT.

YOU MENTIONED HE WAS HE WAS POWERFUL CHAIR OF THE FINANCE COMMITTEE.

THERE WAS WAY TOO MUCH POWER.

HE HAD POWER OVER THE ENTIRE CITY WORKERS, COMPENSATION SYSTEM THAT EVENTUALLY WAS TAKEN AWAY FROM.

THAT CAN BE JUST >> ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF POWER THAT HE HAD THAT HE WIELDED AND THAT HE USE NOW WE KNOW TO TRY AND STEER BUSINESS TO HIS OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX FROM WHICH WOULD EVENTUALLY MAKING MONEY.

MICHAEL LAURIA, THE QUESTION THAT ASKED AFTER ALL THESE CONVICTIONS IS HAVE FUTURE PUBLIC OFFICIALS LEARNED THEIR LESSON.

ARE THEY GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE CAREFUL NEXT?

IS THIS THE END OF THE CHICAGO WAY?

YEAH, I MEAN, I THINK OBVIOUSLY SHORT ANSWER IS NO BUT WE'LL SEE.

I ALL IN KIND OF HITS ON A GOOD POINT, THOUGH, REGARDING ALDERMANIC PREROGATIVE.

THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT, TOO.

OBVIOUSLY, THIS IS A PRACTICE THAT GOES BACK DECADES AND DECADES ALLOWS COUNCIL MEMBERS TO VETO DEVELOPMENTS IN THEIR WARD.

IT'S, I'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT A LOT BECAUSE I COVER IMMIGRATION.

AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING MIGRANTS HAVE A HARD TIME FINDING HOUSING THE CITY.

THIS IS BECAUSE WE HAVE A SHORTAGE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

THIS IS, YOU KNOW, CONTRIBUTED TO A LOT OF IT WAS IN THE CITY.

AND IT'S ALSO WHY, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR CORRUPTION HERE WITH A BURG RIGHT ALONG, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE THE DEFENSE, REALLY WHEN YOU HAVE 14 CHARGES, YOU'RE GOING UP AGAINST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET SOME KIND OF FULL ACQUITTAL.

SO YOU JUST ANY FOR AT LEAST ONE JUROR HERE LIKE MAYBE THAT ONE, THAT ONE'S GOING TO HANG THE WHOLE THING LIKE THEY DID IN THE FIRST THAT STORY.

THEY DIDN'T EVEN GET THAT NOW.

AND I THINK THAT THE SPEED OF THE VERDICT ALSO HELPED WHEN THEY LEFT.

>> ONLY ON WEDNESDAY, THEY LOOK FOUR-THIRTY.

USUALLY STAY TILL AT LEAST 5 O'CLOCK.

I THOUGHT MAYBE THEY WERE GETTING CLOSE BECAUSE THEY MAY HAVE JUST DECIDED LET'S GO HOME AND SLEEP ON IT.

AND THEN THEY CAME BACK.

THE NEXT DAY WENT THROUGH THE FINAL DETAILS AND WE'RE TOLD BY ONE JUROR THAT THEY WENT THROUGH ALL THE TAPES AND THE TAPES WERE, WHAT DID IT AND U.S. ATTORNEY A MORRIS PASS WELL SAID, YOU KNOW, IT WAS HIS WORDS THAT DID IN.

REALLY WAS DANNY SOLIS.

YES, FORMER FRIEND AND COLLEAGUE WHO WRITE RECORDED THOSE WORDS THAT THAT DID HIM IN HEATHER'S ROAD.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE REACTION FROM SOME OF >> BOTH OF THEIR CURRENT AND FORMER COLLEAGUES, THEY SEEM TO BE MORE UPSET AT SOLIS.

YEAH.

FOR BEING THE QUOTE, UNQUOTE RAT THEN BURKE FOR DOING THE DEED.

WELL, BACK IN 2019 AT CITY HALL IN THE NEWS BROKEN BY THE SUN-TIMES THAT THAT DANNY SOLIS AND SERVED AS A MALL, IT AN EARTHQUAKE THAT THERE'S THEY WERE PEOPLE WERE SOBBING.

PEOPLE WERE, YOU YOU KNOW, WE HAD ONE ALDERMAN SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, HE GREW UP AND WHERE YOU DON'T SNITCH ON PEOPLE.

YOU HAD ANOTHER ALDERPERSON SAY, BUT WE'RE A FAMILY.

HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO A FAMILY?

JUST A COMPLETE, I THINK MISUNDERSTANDING OF WHAT OLDER PERSON'S ROLE IS IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO.

AND I THINK ALL POINT IS WELL TAKEN.

THIS JURY VERDICT SHOULD SERVE NOT ONLY AS YOU KNOW, SORT BUT THE FINAL WORD ON HOW ED BURKE CONDUCTED HIMSELF.

>> AS A PUBLIC OFFICIAL IN CHICAGO, BUT IT SHOULD SERVE AS AN INDICTMENT OF HOW CHICAGO HAS RUN ITS GOVERNMENT FOR DECADES.

BURKE OPERATED NO BETTER THAN A MOB BOSS BECAUSE WE DID NOT HEAR HIM MAKE EXPLICIT THREATS.

WE HEARD HIM SAY, OH, NOW YOU'RE GOING TO ASK SOMETHING OF ME.

I MEAN, THAT'S STRAIGHT OUT OF SOUNDS GODFATHER.

YOU KNOW, HEATHER AND ASKED.

>> THE ACTING U.S. ATTORNEY MORRIS PASSED CALL YESTERDAY.

SPIN AROUND 50 YEARS.

WHY NOW?

WHY DID IT TAKE THIS LONG?

I THINK AGAIN.

>> IT WAS AN OPEN SECRET.

ALL OF US, A COVERED CITY COUNCIL, ALL OF US THAT WERE THERE DAY AFTER DAY.

KNEW HOW IT BURKE OPERATED.

HE REALLY.

AND THEN THERE WAS GREAT ARTICLE AND WBZ SHOWING THE 400 SOMETIMES HE RECUSED HIMSELF FROM VOTES BECAUSE OF CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WE KNOW EVEN THOUGH HE RECUSED HIMSELF, HE HAD AN INFLUENCE ON HOW THOSE VOTES WENT.

SO.

WHAT TOOK THE FED SO LONG?

>> DON'T KNOW.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A I MEAN, FOR YEARS PEOPLE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN'S THE CASE COMING AGAINST MAYOR AND THAT CASE NEVER REALLY THAT WASN'T SO SUPER CLOSE TO THEM.

AND IT CAME I THINK, GENERALLY SPEAKING WHEN YOU'RE GOING AFTER THE BIG FISH, PUN INTENDED, PERHAPS THE BIG TUNA, THE VICTIM YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR DUCKS IN A ROW.

YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE BECAUSE YOU MAY ONLY GET ONE SHOT AT THAT.

AND SO I THINK THEY WAITED UNTIL THEY FELT LIKE THEY REALLY HAVE THE GOODS AND THEY HAD SULLY'S.

AND SO THAT I MEAN, THAT WAS A REAL FEATHER IN THEIR CAP FROM A PROSECUTORIAL STANDPOINT.

SO I LIKE THEY FINALLY TO HAVE A GOOD.

YOU MENTIONED.

THE RACKETEERING CHARGE ARRAY LONG CARRIES UP TO 20 YEARS IN PRISON WHEN YOU THINK PROSECUTORS ARE GOING TO ASK FOR AND BURKE IS 80 YEARS OLD.

>> YOU KNOW, DEFENSE ATTORNEYS MADE THE CASE A FAMILY MAN.

HE'S GOT CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN.

>> RIGHT.

I THINK THAT THEY WILL GO AS HIGH AS THEY CAN.

THEY'LL BE SOME RULES THAT WILL REIN IN WHAT THEY CAN ACTUALLY ASK FOR.

AND IF YOU LOOK HISTORICALLY ANOTHER FINANCE CHAIRMAN GOING BACK TO THE 70'S, TOM KEAN, WHO WAS AS POWERFUL, IF NOT MORE POWERFUL.

THEN BERG GOT 5 YEARS WHEN HE WAS IN WHEN HE WAS JAMMED UP.

BUT THE FEDS TO.

SO GOT TO LOOK AND SAY DOESN'T HAVE A CRIMINAL PAST AND THAT'S GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT THE WILL THAT WILL GET THE LETTERS OF GREAT GUY HE AND SHARE SOME OF HIS FORMER ALDERMAN A COLLEAGUE'S WILL WRITE INSURANCE.

HELP ME OUT ON HE DONATED TO THAT CHARITY.

HE CARED FOR PERSON.

WRITE WRITE IN.

>> THERE WILL BE A LOT OF THAT GOING ON.

AND, YOU KNOW, THE HEARING MAY GO FOR A LONG TIME, THE SENTENCING HEARING BECAUSE IT WILL BE A LOT OF PEOPLE.

>> WE'LL HAVE A LOT TO SAY.

BURKE NOW WHO IS KNOWN FOR BIG SPEECHES WILL BE HAVING TOO PUT TOGETHER THE SPEECH OF HIS LIFE WHEN HE GOES BEFORE THE JUDGE.

DO YOU THINK THAT SPEECH OTHER WOULD INCLUDE SOME KIND OF CONTRITION >> WE KNOW HARD IT WAS FOR ROD BLAGOJEVICH TO TO OFFER ANY CONTRITION WHATSOEVER.

AND THEN ONCE HE GOT.

COMMUTED, YOU KNOW, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY FASCINATING TO SEE IF HE HAS ANY SORT OF SELF-AWARENESS OF SORT OF >> HOW HE SORT OF GOT HIMSELF INTO THIS PREDICAMENT.

WE DID NOT REALLY HERE OF ROBUST DEFENSE OF HIS CHARACTER DURING THE DEFENSE CASE OR ANYTHING ALONG THOSE LINES.

THE CLOSEST WE GOT WAS WHEN HIS ATTORNEY JOE DUCEY SAID, YOU KNOW, HE LOVED HIS.

HE LOVES HIS FAMILY.

HE LOVES HIS GUIDE AND HE LOVES THE CITY AND THERE'S NO LAW AGAINST BEING A SELF-PROMOTER OR TRYING TO GET BUSINESS.

AND I THINK IF THAT'S HIS ARGUMENT TO JUDGE VIRGINIA, KENDALL, I THINK THAT PERHAPS MIGHT NOT GO WELL FOR HIM, BUT HE HAS BEEN DOING THIS, AS I SAID FOR SO LONG.

THIS WAS A PART OF WHO HE WAS, HOW HE OPERATED DAY IN AND DAY OUT AND HOW HE AMASSED POWER THAT HE USED TO HELP THE PEOPLE THAT HE WAS ALLIED WITH HIM TO HURT THE PEOPLE HE SAW POSING HIMSELF.

I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU SORT OF CHANGE THAT ON A DIME EVEN WITH YOUR LIBERTY AT STAKE.

WHAT IT WHAT IS THE PROCESS YOU'RE SENSING HEARING IN RIGHT?

DOES THAT MEAN RIGHT AFTER THAT?

HE'S >> PUTIN.

WELL, STUDENT WALKED OFF PRISON.

I MEAN, IN THEORY, YOU COULD DO THAT.

BUT I DOUBT THAT THAT WILL BE EXACT TIME MARCHING TO A PRISON CELL IF THAT'S WHAT THEY DECIDE.

EVERY NEWS COMPANIES GOING TO GET THEIR CHOPPERS EVENT STATEMENT FOLLOWED HIM RIGHT FOR TO THE FAST FOOD RESTAURANT AND THEN RIGHT INTO THE I DON'T I DON'T SEE GOING A REVOLVING DOOR FROM THE COURTHOUSE RIGHT TO PRISON.

BUT I DO SEE HIM REALLY IN JEOPARDY GOING AWAY FOR SOME TIME.

ALRIGHT, ALDEN LOWERY, IT'S NOT JUST BURKETT.

MIKE MADIGAN AWAITING HIS UPCOMING TRIAL.

IF YOU'RE MIKE MADIGAN RIGHT NOW.

>> HOW ARE YOU FEELING ABOUT THIS VERDICT?

>> I THINK IT'S GOT TO MAKE A LITTLE ESPECIALLY THAT NOT JUST VERDICT, BUT ALSO THE VERDICT IN THE COMMENT FOR TRIAL GUILTY VERDICTS THERE THE CROSS HAIRS ARE DIRECTLY ON NOW.

MADIGAN IS KIND OF THROWING A HAIL ESSENTIALLY NOW THE DES IMPENDING SUPREME COURT DECISION WHICH COULD REWRITE NOR THE FEDERAL STATUTE ON BRIBERY.

I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS ABOUT THAT OR 2 OF THESE AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT IF THE SUPREME COURT RULES AND CHANGES THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY OPENS THE DOOR FOR THE THE CONVICTION THAT HAS ALREADY HAPPENED FOR THE FOR THE COMMENT FOR AND ALSO POTENTIAL HAVE WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON WHATEVER MIGHT HAPPEN WITH MADIGAN.

LEGAL TEAM IS PUSHING FOR HIS TRIAL TO BE PUSHED BACK SO THAT THAT BURN IT CAN COME RIGHT BECAUSE CAN COME IN A DELAY, DELAY, DELAY.

ALL RIGHT.

WELL, SO MUCH TO TALK ABOUT HERE WILL KEEP TALKED ABOUT.

WE WE DO HAVE TO MOVE ON.

>> TO TRAGIC DEATH OF THE 5 YEAR-OLD MIGRANT JOHN CARLOS MARTINEZ, RIVERO AFTER FOR A FEW WEEKS AT THAT SHELTER.

22ND HALL SAID THAT'S HAD ALL KINDS OF PROBLEMS.

WHAT WE KNOW.

ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED TO EXACTLY.

YES.

THE MARTINEZ FAMILY GOT TO THE SHELTER NOVEMBER 30TH.

>> AND JOHN CARLOS PASSED ON THIS PAST SUNDAY, DECEMBER 17TH.

WHAT WE KNOW.

YOU KNOW, I WAS LOOKING AT THE POLICE REPORT EARLIER AND WHAT WE KNOW IS THAT IN THE DAYS LEADING UP TO HIS PASSING PASSING, HE WAS SUFFERING FROM A SEAVER, A FEVER AND HAD TAKEN SOME ANTI FEVER MEDICATION.

HIS PARENTS ALSO GOT A SOME SORT OF PILL THE DAY BEFORE HAND FROM A FRIEND TO TRY AND HELP WITH A FEVER I GUESS I KIND OF BRING THAT UP FOR 2 REASONS.

REALLY NOT SO MUCH BECAUSE THE POLL ITSELF, BUT REALLY BECAUSE LOOK WHERE HIS PARENTS WERE TURNING TO TRY AND GET HELP AT THAT POINT.

RIGHT?

HE HAD VISIBLE SYMPTOMS FOR DAYS AND HAD NOT SEEN A DOCTOR.

HIS PARENTS WHEN INSTEAD OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING SAY THAT THERE'S THERE'S HEALTH CARE AVAILABLE TO EVERYBODY.

EVERYBODY GETS TO GO FOR SCREENING AT COOK COUNTY HEALTH.

>> THERE THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT THAT'S YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

THAT'S EXACTLY IT.

THAT'S THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SAYING.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET SOME INFORMATION ON.

BUT HE TALKED WITH A LOT OF FOLKS IN SHELTERS.

YEAH, YOU KNOW, THE YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING ABOUT YOU TALK FOLKS IN SHELTERS.

>> A LOT OF THEM ARE NOT SEEING DOCTORS.

YOU KNOW, I'VE ACTUALLY TALKED WITH DOCTORS IN THAT AREA WHO WORK AT CLINICS WHERE THEY HAVE TO ACCEPT UNINSURED PATIENTS.

AND I THINK KIND OF THE REMARKABLE THING FROM THOSE CONVERSATIONS IS THAT THESE ARE FOLKS WHO SAW THESE KIDS WHEN THEY FIRST MOVED TO THE SHELTER FOR ROUTINE VACCINATIONS AND THEN THEY SAW THEM COME BACK LATER WITH ILLNESSES THAT DID NOT HAVE THE FIRST TIME.

RAGES.

AND I MEAN, IT'S SO YEAH, IT'S THE MAYOR'S ADMINISTRATION GETTING A PASS HERE.

I MEAN, DO THEY DESERVE UP?

AND THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF THE CONDITIONS AT THE SHELTER, FOLKS TALKING ABOUT.

>> AN ILLNESS OUTBREAK GOING ON FOR WEEKS.

YEAH, I JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU CAN'T GET MEDICAL CARE TO PEOPLE WHO NEEDED IN CHICAGO WHO >> IS?

CHICAGO IS SANCTUARY CITY.

IF IT REALLY WANTS TO WALK THE WALK THAN IT HAS TO TALK THE TALK AND IT HAS TO WALK MEGHAN, THAT BUT I'M LIKE A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE UPSET WHAT IS GOING HERE IN CHICAGO.

AND THEN SEEMS THAT THE CONDITIONS AT A PLACE LIKE THIS MIGHT BE WORSE THAN THEY WERE AT POLICE STATIONS AND THEY WERE TERRIBLE POLICE STATIONS RAN THAT.

YEAH, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR HAS EXPLICITLY PROMISED TO PROVIDE DID DIGNIFIED LIVING CONDITIONS FOR FOR THE MIGRANTS HERE.

AND I THINK THAT IT BEHOOVES ALL OF US ASK WHETHER THAT IS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE CITY-RUN SHELTERS THAT ARE.

>> BEING PAID FOR WITH CHICAGO TAXPAYER DOLLARS.

ARE PEOPLE BEING IT QUICKLY CARED FOR?

I MEAN, I CAN'T IMAGINE I YOU KNOW, I HAVE KIDS AND BEING, YOU KNOW, HAVING A SICK KID AND HAVING TO, YOU KNOW, NOWHERE TO TURN ESSENTIALLY, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED TO TO THIS 5 YEAR-OLD.

AND, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S AN INDICATION OF HOW BADLY THE CITY'S SOCIAL SAFETY NET HAS JUST RIPPED APART BY THIS CRISIS.

AND I THINK YOU YOU CAN MAKE ARGUMENTS ABOUT TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT AND WHY HE'S SENDING THEM ALL HERE.

AND AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WE AS A CITY HAVE A DEAD 5 YEAR OLD AND IT'S NOT CLEAR WHOSE FAULT THAT WAS AND WHAT STEPS ARE BEING TAKEN TO PREVENT OTHER PEOPLE WE HAD.

THE MAYOR JOHNSON ON THE SHOW A COUPLE NIGHTS AGO AND I KEPT ASKING HIM IS THIS PLACE SAFE?

IS THIS SHELTER SAFE FOR MIGRANTS?

HE JUST KEPT REVERTING TO TO GREG >> IT IS A CITY ANSWERING TO TO WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE INTO INTO HAD MORE HUMANELY.

ADDRESS THE SITUATION.

I MEAN, I I MOST OF US APPRECIATE WHERE THE MAYOR IS GOING ON AT.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT WHEN THOSE MIGRANTS >> ARRIVE HERE, THEY BECOME OUR RESPONSIBILITY.

AND WE HAVE SAID IS A CITY.

WE ACCEPT THAT RESPONSIBILITY JUST IN A WAY THAT I THINK SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH THE SHELTERS HAS BEEN JUST NOT TRULY UNDERSTANDING THE THE THREAT IN TERMS OF A HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, THINK BACK TO COVID AND THOSE VERY INITIAL MONTHS AND WHAT HAPPENED IN NURSING HOMES.

HIS NOTION OF CONGREGATE A VERY, YOU KNOW, TOUGH ILLNESS.

AND IT JUST SPREADS LIKE WILDFIRE.

AND THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF CONDITIONS THAT THIS 5 YEAR-OLD IS IN.

OTHER MIGRANTS ARE AND I THINK THE CITY HAS TO UNDERSTAND NOW, ESPECIALLY NOW THAT THERE'S A LIFE THAT'S BEEN TAKEN, THIS IS REALLY SERIOUS BUSINESS.

YOU COULD CLEARLY THEIR BUSES COMING AS HEATHER REPORTER.

THERE'S THERE'S CHARTER PLANES COMING YOU CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE LOAD OF MIGRANTS THAT ARE COMING HERE.

>> BUT MICHAEL LAURIA, WHAT ABOUT THIS CONTRACTOR CALLED FAVORITE STAFFING THERE CONTRACTED TO MANAGE THIS FACILITY AND A FEW OTHER FACILITIES OF 40 MILLION DOLLAR CONTRACT.

ARE THEY ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE CONDITIONS HERE IN FOR WHAT'S HAPPENING?

I MEAN, IT DOES KIND OF SEEM THAT WAY.

I THINK IT IMPORTANT TO BEAR IN MIND.

THERE'S, YOU KNOW, THERE'S 27 SHELTERS LIKE >> THE LEVEL OF CARE.

IT EACH ONE VARIES.

I'M TOLD WITH HEALTH CARE WORKERS THAT WORK IN SEVERAL SHELTERS.

YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM ARE ACTUALLY THEY MARIE DECENTLY RUN.

BUT THE ONE SHELTER CERTAINLY DOESN'T SEEM TO BE THE CASE.

AND IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO ACTUALLY GET THE CARE THAT THESE FOLKS NEED INSTEAD OF PUTTING IT OFF ON FAVORITE STAFFING, WHO, BY MANY ACCOUNTS, THEY DON'T DO A LOT WITH IN SHELTERS.

AND, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF GETTING THEM CARE RATE MAKES A GREAT POINT IN TERMS OF THE AMOUNT OF MEDICAL CARE AVAILABLE IN THE CITY.

YOU KNOW, WHEN FOLKS WERE IN POLICE STATIONS, THERE WERE VOLUNTEER MEDICAL STUDENTS AND PHYSICIANS WERE GOING AND TAKING CARE OF THEM.

THEY'RE JUST AS THANK SOME OF THESE VOLUNTEER STAFF ARE BEING TURNED SHELTERS ARE RIGHT.

AND WE DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S FAVORITE STAFFING OR SOMETHING SAYING WE HAVE OUR OWN PEOPLE.

>> BUT BUT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S JUST SO MANY MORE QUESTIONS THAT ARE UNANSWERED.

YEAH, JUST THE IDEA, YOU KNOW, EVEN GOING BACK TO LOOKING AT THE IDEA THAT THEY WERE IN POLICE STATIONS ON THE FLOOR WHEN WE HAVE VACANT BUILDINGS.

THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE.

THERE'S NO CREATIVE THINKING LIKE, HEY, CAN WE OFFER TAX BREAKS 2 PEOPLE WHO HAVE ABANDONED BUILDINGS?

WHAT SOME BREAK SOMEWHERE TO PARTICULAR BUILDING.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE RECORDS, THIS WAS IN AUGUST BY A COMPANY CALLED FAR POINT DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS DEVELOPING THE MICHAEL REESE MEAN, I WONDER IF THEY ANTICIPATED THAT THAT THE CITY WAS GOING TO USE AS BUT AGAIN, DON'T YOU HAVE TO RETROFIT THE BUILDING TO MAKE IT LIKE SUITABLE FOR PEOPLE TO STAY THERE APPARENTLY IS WAY OVER CROWD THE REPORTS OF THOSE 2300 PEOPLE THERE.

THERE SHOULD ONLY BE 1000 PEOPLE IN THAT BUILDING, RIGHT?

AND I THINK WHEN YOU'VE GOT THAT SORT OF OVERLOADED, THERE'S THERE'S REALLY NO WAY TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE.

AND TO, AS I SAID BEFORE, HOW ALLOW THEM TO LIVE IN A DIGNIFIED MANNER.

AND I THINK THAT, >> YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEBATE ABOUT WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THESE THINGS DIRECTLY SHOULD BE THE STATE SHOULD BE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

FACT THE MATTER IS IS THAT IS ALL DONE SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HERE AND WE HAVE AN OBLIGATION A COMMUNITY TO TO CARE FOR THEM.

AND IF PEOPLE AREN'T BEING CARED FOR AND YOU KNOW IT, THEY'RE NOBODY'S FRUIT, YOU KNOW, ISN'T FREEZING OUTSIDE WILL GREAT.

DO HAVE A GREATER OBLIGATION THAN THANK GOD THAT THERE'S NOT SNOW COMING DOWN HERE AND THAT MINDS.

SO YEAH, IF WE HAD TO LOAD UP SLEIGHS OF PEOPLE LIKE JANE BYRNE.

>> GOING DOWN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET, WE WOULD REALLY BE IN A TERRIBLE 06:00PM.

THEY'RE HERE NOW, HEATHER.

NOW A BATCH OF AROUND 100 MIGRANTS ARRIVE VIA A CHARTERED PLANE THAT APPARENTLY TAX OFFICIALS A CHARTER TO THEN.

>> THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SAID THAT THE OFFICIALS AND JUMPING INTO QUICKLY GOT AWAY.

WHAT WHY ARE THEY NOW SENDING FOLKS VIA A CHARTERED PLANE?

WELL, THE CITY HAS CRACKED DOWN ON THE WAY THAT TEXAS IS SENDING BUSES TO CHICAGO.

NOW THE CITY HAS SAID WE HAVE A DESIGNATED SPOT FOR EVERYBODY TO COME TO.

SOME PEOPLE CAN GET OFF THE BUS AND GET MEDICAL CARE AND THE PROCESSES FOR DOCUMENTED IN SOME WAY IF THAT THEY DON'T DO THAT NOW IS THE TEXAS BUSES DON'T DO THAT.

THEY RISK THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN FINES AND IMPOUNDED AND GREG ABBOTT ESSENTIALLY SAID I'M NOT GOING TO PLAY THAT GAME.

WE'RE GOING TO SEND BUSES WHENEVER AND WHEREVER WE WANT.

AND WE'RE NOT GOING TO ABIDE BY THEIR RULES.

SO THE JOHNSON ADMINISTRATION HAS FINED 96 BUSES AND HAS IMPOUNDED ONE BUS AND THIS WAS GREG ABBOTT'S RESPONSE TO CHARTER A FLIGHT FROM EL PASO TO CHICAGO LANDED ON THE PRIVATE AIRFIELD.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THESE PEOPLE APPARENTLY GOT OFF THE PLANE, GOT AN UBER AND THEN LEFT TO THESE MIGRANTS SORT OF ASKING PEOPLE FOR HELP, YOU KNOW, WHERE SHOULD WE GO?

AND IT'S AGAIN, IT'S IT'S LIKE A GAME OF CHEST AND ONE-UPMANSHIP WHEN YOU'RE DEALING WITH PEOPLE'S LIVES AND LIVELIHOODS.

IT'S AMAZING HOW POORLY THIS IS ALL BEEN HANDLED.

YEAH, YOU CAN'T PUT ALL THE BLAME ON.

>> MAYOR JOHNSON, BUT YOU DO WANT TO SEE MORE LEADERSHIP A, YOU KNOW, PLACING PEOPLE.

BUT HE DOES HAVE A POINT WHEN THE TEXAS GOVERNOR NOT COMMUNICATING WITH YOUR CITY, THEY'RE JUST SENDING BUSES.

NOW THEY'RE SENDING PLANES ARE TRYING TO GET AROUND THE RULES THAT THE CITY IS SETTING UP.

AND I THINK AT THE AT THE OUTSET OF THIS LAST LAST YEAR, THERE WAS A COMMUNICATION WHICH WAS ESSENTIALLY.

>> CAN I THINK STARTED WITH WITH MAYOR LIGHTFOOT, YOU KNOW, CAN WE CAN WE HAVE A CONVERSATION?

CAN WE HAVE SOME COORDINATION?

YOU KNOW, REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOUR MOTIVATIONS ARE FOR FOR SENDING MIGRANTS HERE, YOU KNOW, FOR INTEREST OF THEIR CARE.

CAN WE TALK ABOUT HOW BEST TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION HAPPEN?

AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS I REALLY NEVER TAKEN MICHAEL LAURIA, HOW HOW MANY MORE BUSES OR CHARTER PLANES YOU THINK CITY OFFICIALS ARE EXPECTING?

NOT SURE.

BUT IN TERMS OF BUSES, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN A PEOPLE ARE CROSSING THE BORDER.

>> AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE SEEING A LOT MORE FOLKS CROSSING THE BORDER THAN WE WERE BEFORE.

SO I EXPECT WE'LL SEE A LOT MORE CHARTER PLANES.

I DON'T THINK WE'VE RECEIVED ANYWHERE, BUT I BUT SAID CONTINUE TO DO THAT.

SO, YEAH, I GUESS WE'LL HAVE TO EXPECT MORE THAN YOU KNOW, THAT THAT WILL RAMP UP ONCE THE DNC COMES AROUND THIS SUMMER.

WE'RE OUT OF TIME.

GREAT DISCUSSION, EVERYBODY.

>> ALL RIGHT.

THANKS TO RAY LONG, HEATHER SHARON, MICHAEL LAURIA AND ALL THAN LOWRY, WE'RE BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> CHICAGO TONIGHT IS MADE POSSIBLE IN BY ALEXANDRA AND JOHN NICHOLS.

THE POPE BROTHERS FOUNDATION.

AND THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.

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DARNELL MOONEY.

>> THE BALL LANDED RIGHT IN HIS HAND ON THAT HAIL MARY.

AND HE JUST BASICALLY GAME IN A WAY.

I THINK TIME WHAT IN THE I'M A REAL TO BREAK A MICROCOSM OF WHAT THE SEASON I STILL THINK THE BEARS ARE GREAT POSITION TO GET.

>> WE'RE GOING HAVE TO HIGH FIRST-ROUND PICKS IN DRAFT.

A QUARTERBACK.

THEY SHOULD NOT.

I THINK THAT GOT THE QUARTERBACK.

I REALLY DO.

I MEAN, 3RD YEAR.

THE GUY HAS HAS SOME ELECTRIC MOMENT.

I THINK HE'S STARTING TO KIND FIGURE IT OUT.

QUARTERBACK IS THE HARDEST POSITION IN SPORTS.

IT'S A ROLL OF THE DICE NO MATTER WHERE YOU DRAFT A DRAFT.

NUMBER ONE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE AND MAYBE HAVE TO WAIT ANOTHER 3, 4, YEARS TO FIGURE HOW MANY, HOW MANY 3, 3, YEARS IN A ROW CLOSEDCAPTION IS MADE POSSIBLE BY ROBERT A CLIFF AND CLIFFORD LAW OFFICES, A CHICAGO PERSONAL INJURY AND WRONGFUL DEATH THAT IS PROUD TO RECOGNIZE ITS 20 ATTORNEYS WHO