
Week in Review: CPS Chief Refuses to Resign; Poll Shows Chicagoans Wary of New Taxes
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Week in Review: CPS Chief Refuses to Resign; Poll Shows Chicagoans Wary of New Taxes
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In review, end of in a cave, Chicago Public schools, CEO stays for now.
So as the tension.
>> I would be by park gets under deal.
Doesn't with them.
Not just as a nation.
>> But what does the future look like for Pedro Martinez?
The mayor won't publicly say where he stands but stresses voters elected him to transform the city schools for too long.
Our schools have not delivered on the promise of public education.
>> I am going to deliver on the promise of public education is for Martinez.
He says resigning would harm students in that one of the main reasons critics want him out is based on the line.
>> I like to address in a fortunate I miss and misinformation.
Campaign to CPS is planning to close schools.
There is simply no truth to this.
The school board makes that clear.
No, there's no plan close schools with a non-binding vote prohibiting school closures until 2027.
>> By then Ed Burke will be out of prison.
Chicago's former most powerful alderman is now living at a federal penitentiary in western Illinois.
Meanwhile, the White Sox on the brink of making history.
>> Not great there, but get to for our week in review panel this week.
We've got our very own Heather Sharon floor, Washington of ABC, 7 News and the Chicago Tribune.
So future from The Associated Press and many Ramos of Block club.
Chicago.
Now let's get to it.
Mayor Brandon Johnson wants him gone and other.
He appointed the Board of Education which last night got its chance to take out CPS CEO Pedro Martinez.
Didn't happen.
How come?
Well, it's complicated.
Martinez has a contract that allows the board to dismiss him immediately for cars.
>> But if there's not cause, he gets to stay for 6 months paid, of course, to help transition to the next CEO.
So a lot of things have to fall into place before.
I would imagine the board would feel comfortable dumping its CEO, no organization wants to be leadership and especially at this time for CPS, ongoing contract negotiations with the teachers union.
There are a lot of moving And by the way, voters in less than 40 days are going to elect the first elected members of the school board.
So I think that it was perhaps a little bit overblown bias in the media that there was going to be some sort immediate reaction by the board.
But it's clear that this issue of Pedro Martinez continue employment at CPS is now firmly in the laps of the last mayoral appointed school board.
And what they will do is an open question.
Solar, knowing all of that why did the mayor asked for his resignation?
Why make this big Polish?
Well, he's not talking the he's a warning actually formally confirmed that it does want to resign, although.
>> Everything he says indicates that there've number of things that supposedly that he hasn't been responsive to the board is is the is the board was see fit for beginners.
Pass a 4.
There's this issue pension payment.
This is issue of of of of the mayor wanting them to take one more to take out the high interest loan, a CPS tickets at high interest loan and they rejected that.
The extraordinary things just never happens Chicago.
What a mayor says go, you go.
When mayor says stays day and in this case, Martinez is pushing back.
so far the board appears to be sticking with.
>> So many, what are the stakes for the The stakes for the mayor is that this is another instance where he sort of has made this kerfuffle around political decision that he's trying to organize seeing behind the scenes.
So whether or not this can happen quickly as he wanted to.
>> I'm not sure, but also least into sort of the other issues facing other agencies at the moment from from the bigger heads go.
We're going to talk in a little bit about CTA, for example.
You've been reporting a lot on that.
But >> I want to get to to notion that he's trying to push out Martinez.
feed into critics narrative that he's doing the bidding of the Chicago Teachers Union Square.
You know, I would you know, what parents are worried about is the bus driver shortage are the budget cuts that have led to, you know, we're not seeing all the specialists, you know, schools that we were support, staff, they have to open schools that slightly later.
So parents are being late to work.
There's he's all of those types of issues.
I think parents more will pay attention to contract negotiations when things get.
Much more intense.
Parents want stability in this.
And and right right now things are sort of up in the air.
>> If Martinez would to leave, that would create all kinds of chaos.
It does exist and actually the wrong time.
And I think that that unnerve a lot of parents and families.
And and I certainly don't think anybody looking going to have a strike right now.
And to Martinez's point, believe he said that he would be the 7th.
>> Cps CEO in just a decade, which is it's it's unheard of that a lot of turnover among the person at the top changes so often do their top have a nose.
Yeah, there's mixed messages to, you know, you're getting these email saying having high enrollment, but then the next one is no.
I'm still the CEO.
I mean, as as a parent and you know, somebody cover schools.
an extraordinary email to get from the head of the school district to nation's 4th largest to I'm still in charge.
You I don't think you can overstate that.
Just how soured the relationship between Martinez and Johnson became with the news that there is this was this list of potentially schools to be closed or co located.
>> It's important.
Remember, Brandon Johnson is not mayor.
Rahm Emanuel did not close 50 schools in 2013.
So I think that the news that sort of there, it's been this list which Martinez acknowledged crafting as part of a five-year strategic plan for the district without the mayor's knowledge, the mayor says mayor's office has told me I think that really sort reached the breaking point.
And the question is, is how does somebody like Pedro Martinez lead a district where he has lost the confidence of the teachers union?
issued a vote of no confidence.
And lost confidence of the mayor.
I think that's a question that the board has to grapple with.
2, especially given just how just deeply painful those school closures remain in many black and brown communities in Chicago.
The sense that that's even a possibility, I think, is something that you saw why the board voted the way it did yesterday to sort of reassure parents.
But that an indication of just how deeply broken sort of the relationship between Chicago's school leaders have And you're talking about the vote to put a moratorium on school closures through 2027.
That's when in a fully elected school board will for the first time in Chicago be in place.
So what expect that these are conversations that board members are having in private?
Of course, absolutely to have this point.
First of all, the the legal issues and what they can do if they can remove him.
>> If they do fire him for cause, he's probably going to sue.
He has a history of in the past of another school district.
He was at where he took legal action and got a settlement.
So they have to look at all that beyond just the question whether they can do it legally.
Is this the timing that they want do given that we're in the middle of negotiations, given that there's been so much instability.
For the mayor and the student union, I think they have to worry about how this looks.
So it looks as though they're trying to execute a I mean, we've known from the beginning that Mayor Johnson is very close attention used to work.
The teachers union, he says looking as though he's acting their behest Stacy Davis Gates, the head teacher who's been very critical streaming critical Martinez.
It's a push him out.
Doesn't look like they're they're running the system.
>> And to that end, we actually Stacy Davis Gates again, the head of the teachers union Chicago tonight earlier this week.
So let's take a listen to what she told us on Monday about that vote of no confidence.
>> Our CEO is doing 2 things he's making presentation to stakeholders is that he is in alignment with the board of Education with the mayor of Chicago and with the teachers and the PARA professionals and clinicians and on the other end of this, he is saying that all of linemen is impossible to bring to fruition because we don't have the funding and then he doubles down and says and I don't have a plan to win the funding either.
>> Many do we have a plan from any corner?
If we don't have one from?
Pedro Martinez is the one from the CTU or the mayor.
Beyond please, Springfield.
>> Yeah, me.
So CTU is asking that they take out a high interest loan to sort of pay for that pension payment for not teaching staff.
believe that he, too, has also come out and said that like this is something that Pedro has done in the past when he was with the CA.
He's the CFL of CPS.
I believe early 2, thousands.
I think that it's like one of the critical pieces that they're trying to push for to help this sort of funding and get to that deal to pay for a lot of the teachers raises and all that sort part of the reason they're they're asking for they're saying will be a short term term loan because they're saying >> that they're going to back to Springfield with some kind of a plan and hoping to get money.
But, you know, hope hope and a prayer is not a reality.
And so I think I think we have to look at whether or not there's any possibilities in Springfield, Governor Pritzker and his legislative leaders have not been very excited, are very keen to talk about additional funding.
Sophia, you covered Springfield for a while and he incited 12 other than the dislike of Chicago and Chicago asking for more money that that sense up there.
It's I mean, there's a lot of asks right now, the legislature.
>> They're talking about, you know, this public financing of stadiums.
There's the own budget to deal with right?
I doesn't seem like a when district is seeing this leadership fight that may not help.
I think up.
He's legislators who are looking at it, right?
right.
Well, I mean, there are real questions about why the CPS board approved a budget covered a 500 million dollar deficit but did not make that 175 million dollar pension payment, which basically force that issue into the lap of the mayor and the city council because CPS doesn't make that payment.
The city has to make that payment that exploded the city's budget for this fiscal year.
>> Bring Mayor Johnson and I'm sure not making a lot of friends on the city council because they now have to deal with But the other thing that that budget didn't do was to provide sort of funds for the raises that CPS has already tendered to see to you as part of that contract process.
So what we've heard from Stacy Davis, Gates look, this wasn't actually a balanced budget.
This budget does not make any sense.
But we've heard Martinez time and time again.
Stay kind.
The being fiscally responsible and refusing to take out that short-term loan, which is not in the best interest of the district.
The unions point that we have to pay for those things.
So it's that sort of thing.
Can't agree on the facts of the situation because seat he was saying it would be the fiscally prudent thing to do to figure out how to pay for those things that, you know, those bills are going to come due have a plan to have a plan.
We heard it all by the way, Heather, from the mayor in terms of his when he was with the Chicago teachers union, he said that the district shouldn't have to take on that cost, that, in fact, it should be borne by the city.
Now he's mayor.
>> Switching his tune.
He's he talked about that or at least addressed why there wasn't a conversation with again that the school board that he appointed the CEO of CPS.
That's a good question.
This I think is really an indication of just how messy the breakup between the city and CPS is truly going to be.
So if you are electing your own board and you are running a whole other agency, you have to pay your bills.
You don't get to come asked the city to help me out.
Right?
Just like.
>> I'm a grown up.
I don't get asked my mom to pay my cell phone bill anymore.
I'm sure she come to a got to take care of my own business and that's essentially what's happening here.
So it when CPS was controlled by the mayor, there was this made sense for the city to sort bear those financial burdens if CPS is on its own and does not report to the mayor, the mayor's point is you got to pay your own bills and now let's move on to city budget at large there because cranes is reporting that the mayor may need some extra weeks to figure this all out, especially given that he promised to not hike property taxes.
So if not that what?
What are the options?
I don't think there are many options available.
Honestly.
I think this is the only route and we had a tense the bite.
The bullet.
>> I think to be investing campaign for the mayor's office to sort of like layout why this is necessary.
What services are going to benefit for such things.
But getting the public to buy into that.
I think it's going to be a steep There's a survey that done recently that published an op-ed in the Tribune.
The show that there's not a huge appetite among voters property tax increase, even if if some of that money is going to go to public education is some of that.
Some of the other news of the city.
This is just not great timing and in him, but he's also not ruled out a property tax increase.
He said during the campaign you would not do it.
But seems to be inching away from that.
Now.
And I think we've seen a little bit of the appetite with with the failed measure of the a so-called mansion, a mansion tax hope Hope Fund homeless services.
You know, there was a very strong campaign against it from real estate agencies and I think a sense you know, worry about what was the mayor going to do exactly with that money?
I think people were looking for a little more assurance, more of a detailed plan as we saw in the end, didn't make it.
>> And so that failed.
But voters are going to have an opportunity to vote for a whole bunch of new elected officials cast votes for a referendum, non-binding on sort of another version of a mansion tax.
This one sort of a millionaire's for with early voting getting under way.
Just throwing it out there.
Any observations as the election is here in earnest?
Well, it's seem like a long time coming in.
All of a sudden it is upon us and the whole.
Yeah.
So it's it's it's trained to be a local government reporter covering these sort of elections because it's not an off year for everybody else, but it's sort of an off year for us.
There are city council elections.
There's no mayor's race.
There's no.
>> Big county offices on the ballot, although the Cook County State's Attorney re spot Furedi would say he's got a shot against.
I lean and you good luck.
so you know, the issue is, is that they're going to be a lot of focus nationally, but there are going to be big issues.
And again, the school board races will really shape the future, at least in those sort of the next couple of years of what CPS looks like, 10 of them on the ballot this time around.
We'll be covering that.
Of course, all of us early November.
Let's move on to story that you've been covering, Sophia, and this is a lawsuit that alleges more than 200 men and women sexually abused while they were held in Illinois, juvenile detention centers.
What can you tell us?
So this is just the latest lawsuit.
There's been half a dozen of them just since May alone, only in Illinois.
>> And it's this just absolutely harrowing haunting pattern of young children being held in juvenile detention facilities and with allegations of abuse against the people who are supposed to protect them.
Nurses chaplains, correctional officers and Illinois.
chaplains and Illinois has an astounding number.
It's 667 people to date have has made these allegations over the years over the decades.
There's multiple people who are named, you know, as repeat offenders and Illinois nationally is such an astounding number is is kind of one of the It says it stands at this.
Illinois stands up for the magnitude of the problem is part of your reporting what is it about You know, noise had a long time decades of problems with how it runs juvenile detention facilities.
There's been issues with illegal strip searches.
There's been just host of, you know, for forms, getting the right people hiring them, getting rid of people who are accused of wrongdoing.
That's noted and several federal reports just about the conditions.
You know, one of the worst in the nation, they'll be some reforms and then it it just, you know, even when we are pressing the governor and county officials.
You know, the governor's line on this early on was that this was from former administrations.
This had nothing to do with me.
And then, you know, the next lawsuit came out and there was a bunch of cases since 2019, the governor took office.
And since then, it's been no comment.
They'd they don't want to talk about it.
They've nothing And the thing about it, is there more lawsuits are going to come?
There will be hundreds more people making the same allegations.
And and it's happening in other states.
You know, the difficulty here is that the prosecutions of these people who are being accused is very, very hard to do their statute of limitations.
There's, you know, prosecutors offices have to step up to changing the culture outside of the lawsuits.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think some of that is slowly has happened.
A number of juvenile detention facilities have closed over the years.
You know, there were at one time, you know, 9 closer to a dozen.
Now there's and there have been changes up at the juvenile detention center, which is noted in this lawsuit.
But not, you know, the lawyers would say the issues that have that have been documented.
The lawsuit are still continuing will continue to watch for whatever you uncover their.
Let's turn to some information that you have uncovered.
Many is so going back to the city of Chicago.
We spent a lot of time talking about Pedro Martinez, but what about it?
>> Another individual who leads a major agency that impacts residents lives.
That, of course, the CTA.
So you've outlined some of the shortcomings.
Some may say adorable Carter in that he's traveled a of outside the city outside the state.
Even.
>> What can you share with us in terms of howling touch?
Dorval Carter is with what's going transit.
Well, mean, it depends who you ask, right?
If you ask anyone within his inner circle there saying that he's president all the time and available to staff.
>> Yes, folks that are sort of outside of that circle.
The May say something a lot different than that.
But what our story really look at start of his schedule for the past examining sort of like what he's day to day looks like who he's meeting And what we found is that he spends a lot of his time traveling.
We're talking about.
Can you about like 347 days out of year he was spent traveling to places like Spain to New Zealand, Australia, Rico.
347.
Yes, I'm not mistaken.
There's what 356 gosh.
So it's significant amount of weight.
I'm >> Okay.
Here.
We right over my mind that the day that you are.
47, my apologies forgive me.
But he spent nearly a 3rd of his time traveling the world essentially contrast that with how often he actually writes the system.
>> As well as how often he actually walks the system pales in comparison, for during that same period of time, he only visit to train stations about 9 times and that included the yellow line crash.
You know, that was sort of cultivating a big night.
So now that we've thoroughly, but what are the numbers?
everyone along.
We've got guys, I want to go to you, Laura, because you did write a column asking it you know, you've talked about Why?
Why is Dorval Carter still running the CT a given reporting like that >> while Vice mayor second by anti leave.
Well, it's it's a mystery, especially if we look at what market, Pedro Martinez case and compare them.
>> They're durable.
Carter has a long history of having challenges and problems with the system that started before even reported to great report.
You doing man and some of the other reporter you've done earlier the there's no liability on on the CTA.
The services bad.
There's lot of criminal activity.
This is There's some improvement in terms how the system is being rid bin bit being run.
But it's still a long way to go.
The mayor has stood by him some some of the some of the Alton, particularly the African-American aldermen.
The city council stood by him.
They argue that he has He's done a great job in terms of bringing federal funding to the city, particularly the extension of the red line, which is something that's the people have been waiting for for, like 25 years and that he has a lot of connections to Washington, federal connections.
He can bring money in and that that's what we need to beef the focus on.
So that's the argument they make.
>> And it's an argument that's persisted.
And do you expect it's going to continue?
mayor seems to be sticking by him and as long as he does, he'll remain there.
Also sticking by Larry Snelling who it's been a year year anniversary.
Heather's Snelling became superintendent of the Chicago Police Department.
And a lot, of course, is going on that year.
What are your thoughts?
We had some reporting from the Tribune.
The sometimes really saying that there's a belief he's hit a stride.
Well, there's no doubt that he is very proud of the way the police handled the Democratic National Convention, their wares weeks of sort of worry and consternation that it was going to be a disaster.
And that.
>> Chicago would, you know, embarrass itself on the national stage once again, either because of protests that got out of control or because police who violated people's constitutional rights.
Neither happened.
And there's no doubt that both the mayor and the superintendent see that as sort of evidence that they have the department on the right track We were not granted an opportunity to sit down with Superintendent Snelling to mark his one year anniversary.
I would have had I think different questions for him.
He is at loggerheads with the head of the biggest police misconduct agency.
He has questioned whether that agency is biased against Chicago.
Police.
I think there are continuing questions about the police department's ability to oust officers from their ranks that have ties to extremist groups.
I also would have had questions about the continuing cost to Chicago taxpayers from Cleese misconduct settlements and the fact that the department has only complies with 7% of the consent decree fully.
sure all have lots questions that the consent decree for sure.
And I think one of those issues that we saw come out during the Democratic National Convention is the use of kettling.
>> You know, when police, you know, kind of block protesters or whoever at in and they would say, no, we didn't do that.
But if you are out there, there were several instances where, you know, one of the unsanctioned protest outside the Israeli consulate.
There was an area where there was a handful of protesters.
That was the night with the most arrests and there was no way to get out.
I mean, as journalists were stuck there, there was activists there.
Police officers there.
And, you know, he said that it was an canceling, but many people who have covered, you know, such police activity over the years would disagree with that.
You can't get In fact, now prohibited departmental rules that were imposed just before the convention began.
>> A lot of questions, but no sign that there is any sort of fracture between the Johnson administration and the Cpc's leadership, didn't think so.
All right.
Let's talk about something else before we run out of time.
>> At Burke, that's another big from city Council to the cell.
He is.
>> Still in Illinois now and a prince sent a prison in western Illinois.
We need to lasting impact on city come for operations that the one-time sort of wanted been gust serving alderman is now federal prisoner.
I think City Council.
>> He's pretty happy that this can serve like be behind him now and they can sort of like pave a new path forward.
It also just interesting note that, you know, this is most powerful person that set and city Council for decades and now spending 2 years inside a federal prison for racketeering.
>> 2 years is that that's a fraction of what prosecutors sought.
given this light sentence, is that going to serve as a deterrent?
Do you think so?
Chicago?
I think >> Chicago has going or has a terrible history of corruption.
There's been dozens of aldermen.
already gone from prisoners.
There are released wanted to alderman who are either be under investigation are betting that indicted right now.
>> sitting members of the leave it on then one can always hope we are out time things to Heather Sharon.
Laura, Washington, Sophia Tareen and Manny Ramos.
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