US ON THE WEEKEND YOU.

I'M PARIS SCHUTZ GOVERNOR PRITZKER SAYS HE'S, QUOTE, DEEPLY CONCERNED.

>> WELL, CHICAGO'S HANDLING OF THE MIGRANT CRISIS.

THE CITY HAS NOT TOLD THE STATE.

>> WHERE THEY WOULD LIKE US TO PUT OUR RESOURCES TO BUILD NEW SHELTERS OR HELP THEM BUILD SHELTERS SO WE CAN HELP US.

THEY DON'T IDENTIFY THOSE LOCATIONS.

THE STATE HAS THE ABILITY TO SET UP A SHELTER ANYWHERE IN THE STATE.

>> AS THEY CHOOSE.

>> THE MAYOR AND GOVERNOR PUBLICLY TRADED ROUNDS AGAIN, BLAMING EACH OTHER FOR LACK OF SHELTER CAPACITY.

THIS IS MORE THAN A DOZEN ALDER PEOPLE CALL ON THE MAYOR TO HALT THE 60 DAY MIGRANT SHELTER, EVICTION POLICY.

>> POLLS CLEAN, AFFORDABLE BUILDING ORDINANCES, NEED A CLEAN NOR AFFORDABLE.

>> MAYOR JOHNSON BACKS A PLAN TO REQUIRE ALL NEW CONSTRUCTION TO BE ALL ELECTRIC AND GO GAS FREE.

THAT'S AMID CRITICISM FROM THE NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY AND ADJACENT LABOR UNIONS.

AND IN NATIONAL POLITICS, TRUMP STEAMROLL THROUGH IOWA, NEW HAMPSHIRE, DESPITE 91 CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS AND MULTIPLE CIVIL CASES.

BUT NIKKI HALEY CAMPS OF HER RHETORIC HOPING TO SLOW HIS MOMENTUM DOWN.

>> AND JOINING US ON THIS WEEK IN REVIEW PANEL, OUR DANIELA PLUS FROM WBZ OUR VERY OWN HEATHER SHARON.

JUSTIN LAWRENCE FROM CRAIN'S CHICAGO BUSINESS AND JOINING VIA ZOOM FROM WASHINGTON, PULITZER PRIZE WINNING COLUMNIST FOR THE CHICAGO TRIBUNE, CLARENCE PAGE.

WE'RE THRILLED TO HAVE HIM BACK.

LET'S GET RIGHT TO IT.

HEATHER.

HOW EXTRAORDINARY IS THAT?

THAT ONCE AGAIN, THE MAYOR AND THE GOVERNOR ARE PUBLICLY CALLING EACH OTHER OUT OVER THE MIGRANT CRISIS INSTEAD OF TRYING TO COME TO SOME AGREEMENT BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.

YEAH, I THINK IT'S A REAL INDICATION THAT THE RELATIONSHIP THERE, WHICH WAS VERY POSITIVE INITIALLY HAS REALLY DETERIORATED UNDER THE PRESSURE OF THIS HUMANITARIAN CRISIS.

THAT IS GRIPPING.

>> THE CITY, I THINK IT ALL STARTED WHEN THE 2 SPLIT PUBLICLY OVER WHETHER THE CITY SHOULD BUILD MASSIVE WINTER ICE BASE CAMPS TO HOUSE THE MIGRANTS AND THE CITY MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.

EVEN AFTER GOVERNOR PRITZKER OBJECTED TO IT, ULTIMATELY THE STATE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND PAY FOR IT.

BUT THEN STATE PULLED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THE CITY SAYING THAT IT WAS AN ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE FOR PEOPLE TO BE LIVING ON LAND IN BRIGHTON PARK.

AND IT HAS DEVOLVED FROM THERE AS THE CITY SORT OF WAITS TO SEE WHETHER THE MAYOR WILL ENFORCE THE 60 DAY LIMIT, WHICH COULD MEAN THAT NEARLY 6,000 PEOPLE COULD BE EVICTED FROM CITY SHELTERS BY THE END OF FEBRUARY.

AND, YOU KNOW, UP WAS TO MAKE SOME BETTER POINT.

GOVERNOR PRITZKER SAYING THE CITY NEEDS TO GUIDE US TO WHERE TO SPEND THE MONEY TO BUILD THE SHELTERS.

WELL, THE MAYOR SAYING YOU CAN BUILD THE SHELTERS WHERE YOU WANT, INCLUDING NOT IN CHICAGO.

SEEMS LIKE THE ONLY THING THAT THEY AGREE ON IS THAT THE SUBURBS DON'T WANT TO HELP THE STATES PUT TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON THE TABLE.

NOBODY'S.

>> INTERESTED IN HELPING OUT.

AND THEN YOU'VE YOU KNOW, THIS, THIS MAYOR HERE, I THINK HE'S GOT A POINT.

I MEAN, THE STATE'S GOT A.

THE MEN GOT TO STEP UP.

I THINK MORE THAN THAT, WE'RE I'M SHOCKED US HOW THEY'RE FIGHTING WITH EACH OTHER AND NOT POINTING THE AT THE PRESIDENT AT BIDEN AND WASHINGTON BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A FEDERAL TRIAL THINK I'VE SAID IT BEFORE HERE AS WELL.

YOU GOT TO TAKE THESE MIGRANTS AND SPREAD THEM OUT AROUND THE COUNTRY, NOT JUST AROUND THE METRO AREA.

THERE ARE OTHER CITIES THAT WOULD ACTUALLY WANT A NEW POPULATION, NEW BLOOD AND YOU KNOW WHY THIS ISN'T BEING BEING LEFT TO CITIES LIKE CHICAGO, NEW YORK LA BECAUSE IT'S FUNCTION OF GOVERNORS LIKE TEXAS GOVERNOR GREG ABBOTT WHO WANT TO SORT OF INSTILL CHAOS IN PLACES LIKE CHICAGO OR DENVER BY SENDING BUSLOADS HERE AND THEY'RE ACCOMPLISHING WHAT THEY WANT.

JUSTIN LAWRENCE.

WHAT ABOUT PARENT?

LEE BRANDON JOHNSON DID FINALLY HAVE THIS MEETING WITH SUBURBAN MAYORS SET TO COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF REGIONAL SOLUTION.

SO IS THERE ONE IN THE OFFING?

>> IT DOESN'T APPEAR TO THEY MET ON MONDAY.

I YOU KNOW, HE'S BEEN PUSHING FOR FOR TONY PRECKWINKLE FOR GOVERNOR PRITZKER TO HELP THEM.

SUBURBAN MAN IS ON BOARD TO TO TAKE PEOPLE AND IT JUST HAS NOT MATERIALIZED.

YET THE STATE HAS MADE MONEY AVAILABLE.

2 SUBURBS, TOO, TO TAP INTO TO TO HELP THEM SHELTER MIGRANTS AND THEY HAVE NOT TAKEN HIM UP ON IT.

SO IT, YOU KNOW, UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENED BEHIND CLOSED DOORS THAT WE HAVEN'T HEARD YET.

IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT ANYTHING NEW IS COMING UP WITH CLARENCE PAGE.

WHAT'S THE VIEW FROM WASHINGTON OR FEDERAL OFFICIALS?

ARE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS AWARE OF?

>> HOW DEEPLY CHICAGO IS SINKING UNDER CRISIS AND ALL THE PROBLEMS IT'S FACING.

WE MIGHT HAVE YOU YOU.

I THINK YOU'VE GOTTEN YOURSELF.

WE WERE WE WERE HAVING WE'RE GOING TO GET CLARENCE PAGE IS AUDIO THERE BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR WHAT HE HAS TO SAY.

ALL MEANWHILE, A GROUP OF OLDER PEOPLE PENNED A LETTER ASKING THE MAYOR TO SUSPEND THE 60 DAY EVICTION POLICY.

AS YOU MENTIONED, TETHER ALSO CALLING FOR BETTER FOOD, BETTER BETTER HEALTHCARE, MIGRANT SHELTERS.

WHAT'S THE PRACTICAL IMPACT OF THAT LETTER?

SO IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER ANYBODY WANTS TO EVICT THE SHELTERS.

I DON'T THINK THAT THE MAYOR WANTS TO DO THAT.

WHAT HE TOLD US THIS WEEK WAS THAT.

>> THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE PART OF A LARGER PLAN.

THE STATE WAS SUPPOSED TO STEP UP EFFORTS TO FIND MORE PERMANENT HOUSING FOR THE MIGRANTS SO THAT THERE WOULD BE LESS PEOPLE IN THE SHELTERS SO THAT THERE WOULDN'T BE PEOPLE THERE FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS ON END, WHICH IS THE WAY THAT IT SPENT.

SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IT'S CLEAR THAT THE MAYOR BETWEEN REMAINS BETWEEN A ROCK AND A HARD PLACE, HIS PROGRESSIVE ALLIES ARE INCREASINGLY FRUSTRATED, WHICH WITH SORT OF THAT THE COST OF HUMAN SUFFERING THAT WE ARE ALL SEEING AND HE'S CAUGHT BY THE FACT THAT THERE'S JUST NO MONEY HE HAS REALLY DO ANYTHING DIFFERENTLY.

THAT JUSTIN LAWRENCE, THE MAYOR LOSING ALLIES OVER THIS VERY ISSUE >> DON'T KNOW DIFFERENT LOSING, BUT HE'S CERTAINLY FRUSTRATING HIS ALLIES I THINK THIS LETTER.

>> IT'S ALMOST A CHANCE FOR THEM TO TRY TO GET OUT AHEAD OF THE NEWS RATE.

THEY THEY THEY SEEM TO THINK THAT THEY KEEP LEARNING ABOUT THESE NEW POLICIES THAT COME IN PLACE THROUGH THE PRESS THROUGH AND NOT DIRECTLY FROM THE MAYOR.

SO THIS SENDING A LETTER TO HIM AND SAYING, HEY, TELL US WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE SOME INPUT IN WHAT'S GOING ON THIS HAS BEEN A COMMON COMPLAINT.

YOU HAVE HEARD FROM OTHER PEOPLE AROUND LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE CLARENCE PAGE BACK.

SO SO CLASS SORRY ABOUT THAT.

WHAT IS THE VIEW FROM WASHINGTON HERE?

AND IT IS THERE ANY HELP ON THE WAY AND DO THEY UNDERSTAND?

>> HOW HOW DEEPLY CHICAGO IS SUFFERING WITH ALL OF THIS.

>> SOMEBODY MAYBE WAS MENTIONED.

WAS JILL BIDEN IN ALL THE PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE OF HAD TO DO HERE AND WASHINGTON WELL A WHOLE SURE THAT HAS ONE OF BIG THIS AN ISSUE REMEMBER THE START MISSION WITH GOVERNOR ABBOTT AS START TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE WHICH IS FAVORITE ISSUE FOR REPUBLICANS.

AND NOW WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO THE ELECTION.

WE'RE STARTING TO SEE JOB COME OUT MORE OF A POLICY OF OWN.

BUT STILL MORE HAS TO BE DONE.

MAYOR MAYOR BEEN IN THE MIDDLE?

HE IS.

ONE MAYOR.

AT THE END OF THE ROAD WHERE MAYOR, WHO GO AHEAD HAD THEM AND OR OR PUSH FOR WHAT HE WAS THE STATE AS GOVERNOR CAN DO IT.

IMPORTANT DECISIONS WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT MIGRANTS AND THERE IS, COURSE, NEW SOMETHING GOING NOT MY BACKYARD.

THINK THAT'S A BIG REASON WHY SO STEP FORTH AND SAY TO BRING TIRED YOUR POOR OVER HERE.

>> IT'S IT'S BEEN A HUGE REASON IN CLARENCE, THE YOU KNOW, I'M ON THE ISSUE OF IMMIGRATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE REPUBLICANS IN THE SENATE AND DEMOCRATS CRAFTED SOME SORT OF DEAL ON THE BORDER, ALTHOUGH PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS REPORTEDLY ASKED REPUBLICANS NOT TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE BORDER BECAUSE THEY BENEFIT HIM POLITICALLY TO HAVE CONTINUED CHAOS AT THE BORDER.

EVEN THE REPUBLICANS KEEP SAYING THEY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE BORDER.

SO IT LOOK LIKE THIS IS GOING TO BE A DEAL.

A THING.

THIS THIS POTENTIAL BORDER DEAL.

THAT'S HOW IT LOOKS AS THOUGH TODAY.

>> BUT AGAIN, HE'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'LL TEACH YOU POLITICAL SCIENCE CLASS BUT HERE IS AN EX PRESIDENT WHO'S WANTING TO BE PRESIDENT BUT HE'S 5 TO INCHES OF THROUGH A MONKEY WRENCH INTO THE PROCESS THAT WOULD SOME TO PLACES LIKE CHICAGO.

BUT YOU'VE GOT RIDE ON THAT.

THAT'S A PUBLIC SPEAKER DOESN'T HAVE TO DEAL WITH THIS LONG AS OF THE HOUSE WITH EFFECT IS BODY OF HIS THERE AND LONGER FAITH >> THIS IS HOUSE SPEAKER MIKE JOHNSON WHO IS SAID THAT PROBABLY NOT GOING APPROVE THAT THIS DEAL AND REPUBLICANS IN THE HOUSE CAN SYNC IT TO DEMI LEVELS.

AGAIN, REPUBLICANS GO TO THE BORDER.

THEY HAVE PRESS CONFERENCES.

THEY SAY WE'VE GOT TO STOP THIS FLOW.

HERE'S A DEAL THAT WOULD ACTUALLY STOP SOME OF THE FLOW HERE.

AND NOW THEY'RE SAYING NO, LET'S NOT DO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT GOOD POLITICS.

SO IT SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH THIS FIASCO IS HURTING THE DEMOCRATS AND HELPING THE REPUBLICANS THAT.

>> TRUMP WANTS IT TO CONTINUE THROUGH THE ELECTION.

HE WANTS TO SCUPPER THIS DEAL AND REPORTEDLY HAS BY PRESSURING VARIOUS MEMBERS OF THE SENATE MEMBERS TO TO NOT SUPPORT IT WHEN THEY WERE INCLINED SUPPOSEDLY TO DO SO.

AND AND, YOU ALL TIED UP IN THIS IS ALSO IT BE ON THE BORDER IS ALSO UKRAINE.

WELL, UKRAINE, WHICH IS WHICH WE HEAR EVERY DAY IS RUNNING OUT AND THEY'RE LITERALLY RUNNING OUT OF AMMO, WHICH THE MORE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS WANT TO SUPPORT.

THEY WANT TO SUPPORT THAT.

BUT BUT RIGHT DOES NOT WANT THAT APPARENTLY DOES NOT WANT IT REALLY SO HE WANTS TO DISCOVER THIS BECAUSE HE WANTS THIS PAIN TO CONTINUE FOR BIDEN THROUGH THE CONVENTION.

DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL CONVENTION IN AUGUST HERE IN CHICAGO AND THROUGH THE ELECTION BECAUSE HE FEELS THAT IF BIDEN IS NOT ABLE TO HANDLE IT, THAT THAT'S A GREAT THING FOR HIM TO SAY, LOOK, BIDEN IS STRUGGLING AND I CAN DEAL WITH THE DIFFERENCE BORDER DEAL.

HEATHER, WHAT WOULD THAT MEAN FOR CHICAGO?

I MEAN, IF THEY HAD PASSED THE WOULD MEAN FEWER BUSES COMING HERE.

I MEAN, THAT'S THE IDEA BECAUSE THERE WOULD ALSO PROPOSE CHANGES TO THE ASYLUM PROCESS, WHICH IS WHAT IS THE PROCESS THAT MOST OF THESE MIGRANTS ARE USING.

>> TO GET INTO THE COUNTRY LEGALLY AND THEN MAKE THEIR WAY TO CHICAGO AS THEY WAIT FOR THEIR CASES TO BE ADJUDICATED.

SOME OF THE PROPOSALS WERE THAT MANY OF THESE PEOPLE WOULD HAVE TO HAVE A SPONSOR.

THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO LIVE.

>> BEFORE BEING ALLOWED INTO THE COUNTRY TO AWAIT THOSE DECISIONS.

IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER THAT WOULD BE PART OF THIS PROPOSED DEAL.

IF THE DEAL IS ACTUALLY A A DEAL THAT EXISTS IN REALITY.

BUT YOU KNOW ANYTHING WOULD REDUCE THE FLOW OF SORT OF ASYLUM SEEKERS INTO THE COUNTRY WOULD PUT EVENTUALLY PAY DIVIDENDS IN CHICAGO WITH FEAR PEOPLE FLOWING INTO THE SHELTERS, WHICH OSTENSIBLY WOULD GIVE CITY AND STATE OFFICIALS A GREATER CHANCE TO GET THOSE IN SHELTERS.

NOW OUT OF SHELTERS AND STANDING ON THEIR OWN 2 THIS IS I THINK IT REALLY JUST A BREATHTAKING MOMENT IN AMERICAN POLITICS WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE COMING TO AMERICA FLEEING PERSECUTION, FLEEING ECONOMIC COLLAPSE, BEING USED AS PAWNS BY ONE OF THE MAJOR PARTIES IN AMERICA.

AND, YOU KNOW, IT'S DIFFICULT KNOW YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS TO SORT OF KEEP THE FOCUS NOT ON SORT OF THIS.

YOU KNOW, THE ODDS ARE SORT OF, YOU KNOW, WHO'S UP AND WHO'S DOWN.

BUT THE STAKES REAL PEOPLE, MILITARY AND IN OUR CITY SUFFERING WHO NOWHERE ELSE TO GO.

BUT THE CITY SHELTERS AND THEY MAY NOT BE ALLOWED TO STAY THERE FOR VERY MUCH LONGER.

BUT WASHINGTON TO KIND OF DEAL WITH THIS ARE JUST KIND NOWHERE TO BE FOUND AND LEAVING THE CITY IN THIS IN THIS TERRIBLE PREDICAMENT.

NATIONAL CLARENCE PAGE.

>> SO LOOK LIKE IF THERE WAS ANY STATE THAT NIKKI WOULD HAVE A SHOT AND IT WOULD BE NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SHE DIDN'T CALL A VERY CLOSE SECOND.

THERE THAT SHE HAVE ANY CHANCE OF GAINING MOMENTUM OR IS TRUMP CEMENT AND ONE-STOP DOUBLE AT THIS POINT?

>> WELL, NOT AS DRAMATIC WE LOOK AT ANY STATE THAT WANTS TO HAVE A CHANCE THROUGH ITS BIG HELP OUT SOUTH CAROLINA HOME STATE.

EXPECTED TO EVEN WORSE THERE IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE SHE'S NOT AS CONSERVATIVE AS THEIR OWN OTHER.

ARE A LOT OF TROUBLE REPORTERS IN THE CONSTITUENCY THERE AT FACILITY SO AS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND TO REALIZE THAT NOTION SHOULD THE FACT IS SHE IS ASSOCIATED HEALTH CARE AS THE BREAK, YOU AND TRUMP TO IS AS CONSERVATIVE AS TROOPERS ON MOST OF THESE WHICH PROVIDES IS THAT NONE OF FRIENDS, THE DISCOVER THAT POPULAR AMONG LIBERALS NOW BUT DOES IS THE ONE WHO REASONABLE EASILY ALONG WITH HAS HAS A GREAT WITH A HOME THE >> YOU KNOW, THE THE RNC WAS TALKING ABOUT MAKING TRUMP THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE AFTER 2 STATES HERE THEY HAVE THEY BACK DOWN.

JUST WANT SURPRISE.

SAID.

AFTER JANUARY 6.91, THAT CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS TODAY, 88.3 MILLION DOLLAR DEFAMATION RULING IN THE CIVIL TRIAL OF 4 E JEAN CARROLL AFTER A JURY HAD TO BASICALLY DETERMINED BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT THAT HE HAD RAPED.

EUGENE CARROLL STILL AT THIS VERY MOMENT.

HE IS GOT THIS MUCH POWER AND THAT PARTY.

>> I THINK I WOULD SAY IT'S WOULD NOT SAY IT'S SURPRISING.

I THINK THIS IS WHERE SEEN OVER THE LAST FOR 8 YEARS THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS GOING TO STICK BY A STICK BY THEIR MAN AND AND THEY'VE STUCK BY HIM THROUGH A LOT OF TERRIBLE THINGS.

INCLUDING THIS A DEFAMATION LAWSUIT THAT CAME OUT TODAY, THIS IT HAPPENED ONCE BEFORE SO I DON'T THINK THAT THAT CHANGES I WILL SAY I THINK NIKKI HALEY HAS WHAT SHE WANTS NOW, RIGHT, WHICH A ONE-ON-ONE CHANCE DONALD TRUMP AND HOMES TO SOUTH CAROLINA.

IT ALL.

I DON'T NECESSARILY SEE A FOR HER INTELLECT EARLY, BUT I THINK HER PAST IS JUST TOO STAY ON BALLOTS, RAISE MONEY AND IF DONALD TRUMP IS KNOCKED OFF THE BALLOT BECAUSE OF HIS LEGAL TROUBLES THAN SHE IS.

THE THE REASONABLE ALTERNATIVES.

LESS THAT, THE STRATEGY HERE, ONE OF THESE TRIALS HAPPENS QUICKLY AND HE GETS CONVICTED, ALTHOUGH I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD KNOCK HIM OFF THE BALLOT, BUT >> MEAN, CASES TAKE A LONG TIME WE'VE SEEN LOOKING OKAY MIC MARRYING THE GOING FOR YEARS.

I DON'T THINK THEY'LL HAVE ANY TROUBLE DELAYING IT THROUGH THE ELECTION.

THERE'S ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS WE CAN DISSECT WITH THE WITH THE CASE IN FULTON COUNTY, GEORGIA.

NOW WITH THE PROSECUTORS THERE.

AND SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE IS SOMETHING THAT TAKES DONALD TRUMP.

NOTHING IS TOUCH THEM WITHIN THAT PARTY.

I MEAN, IT'S A CLEAR MAJORITY.

SHE KNOWS SHE HAS BACKERS.

SHE ESTABLISHMENT REPUBLICANS.

ARE PEOPLE LIKE OR BASICALLY I WOULD CALL PRE TRUMP REPUBLICAN LEADERS WHO REALLY WANT SOMEBODY OTHER THAN TRUMP.

IT'S IT'S NOT A SMALL PART OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BUT HE'S HE'S IN THE MAJORITY.

I THINK HE IS NO PROBLEM GETTING THE NOMINATION.

AND I DON'T I DON'T SEE HIM GETTING KNOCKED OUT BY BY ANY OF THESE A CRIMINAL CASES.

IT SEEMS TO BE THE CONSENSUS OF THE REPUBLICANS YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6 WASN'T WHAT HAPPENED ON JANUARY 6 AND THAT.

YOU KNOW, SINCE THAT ANY JUDGE END THE TRUMP IS JUST ANTI TRUMP FOR SKEWED BY US.

THERE'S ALWAYS THERE'S ALWAYS KIND OF THE SAME EXCUSE.

>> CLARENCE PAGE, WHICH YOU THINK NIKKI HALEY IS ACTUALLY A STRONGER GENERAL ELECTION CANDIDATE AGAINST BIDEN AND TRUMP IS.

>> THINK THAT SHE IS SOME WAYS.

BUT LET'S REMEMBER SOME PEOPLE CARE ABOUT ISSUES.

AS I MENTIONED BEFORE LOOKING THE SEASON TO GO ALONG WITH VERY SMART.

ENJOYED TALKING TO THE BACK WHEN SHE WAS OF THERE IN A TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

AND GOT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH SHE'S VERY CONSERVATIVE AND MUCH MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN THE JOB.

I KNOW A SO LET'S NOT GET GET TO IMAGINE HERE.

BELIEVE WILL RE KNOW.

AND I'M GOING TO READ MY COLUMN LAST SUNDAY ABOUT QUANDARY.

BOTH PARTIES ARE IN AS FAR AS PERFECT CANDIDATE FOR BUT DISPLAY TO TRUMP FEEL A LITTLE THEN SHE WOULD BE A GOOD PERSON STEP IN.

>> ALL RIGHT.

LET'S GET BACK SOME LOCAL NEWS HEATHER GATHER SHOWING TELL US ABOUT THIS ORDINANCE THAT WOULD REQUIRE A NEW CONSTRUCTION, NEW BUILDINGS TO GO ALL ELECTRIC AND NO MORE GAS POWERED STOW'S GAS POWERED.

>> DIDN'T ACTUALLY GET INTRODUCED TO.

WELL, IT WAS INTRODUCED, JUST DIDN'T ADVANCE UNDER THE NORMAL PROCEDURES.

IT'S NOW MIRED IN THE LEDGE OF THE RULES COMMITTEE WHERE LEGISLATION SOMETIMES GOES TO DIE.

AND THAT MEANS THAT IT WILL TAKE A FULL COURT PRESS FOR MAYOR RANDY JOHNSON AND HIS PROGRESSIVE ALLIES TO GET OUT OF THE RULES COMMITTEE AND TO A HEARING BY THE ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE WHERE IT FACE IS I THINK AN UNCERTAIN FUTURE.

EVEN THOUGH BOTH NEW YORK AND LOS ANGELES HAVE ALREADY PUT THESE RULES IN PLACE AS PART OF SEARCH EFFORTS TO REALLY COMBAT CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE ELECTRICITY IN MANY CASES AS A CLEANER SOURCE OF POWER, THE NATURAL GAS.

HOWEVER, IT'S NOT CLEAR WHETHER CHICAGO IS READY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE HAVE SAID IT SEEMS ABRUPT, EVEN THOUGH THIS HAS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF NUMEROUS TASK FORCES AND STUDIES GOING BACK ALMOST TO THE EMANUEL ERA.

SO THIS IS GOING TO BE A REAL TEST OF JOHNSON'S COMMITMENT TO SERVICE THE SORT OF CLIMATE CHANGE, PRO PROJECT AND HIS ABILITY TO GET CONTROVERSIAL THINGS THROUGH THE CITY COUNCIL.

LAWRENCE IS KIND OF INTERESTING LITMUS TEST TO SEE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF CITY COUNCIL IS.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE.

>> THE FAR PROGRESSIVE ALDERMEN WHO ALL THE PEOPLE THAT DO THINK THAT THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE, ENVIRONMENTALLY.

BUT THEN YOU'VE GOT THE MORE TRADITIONAL DEMOCRATS SUPPORTED BY LABOR.

THERE ARE LOTS LABOR UNIONS THAT PUTIN, GAS PIPES WORK.

AND JASON TUTT A PEOPLE'S GAS.

YOU'VE GOT THE NATURAL GAS INDUSTRY SO SO WHO WINS OUT HERE IN THIS DEBATE?

YEAH, THIS IS GOING TO BE I THINK THE BIG LEGISLATIVE FIGHT OF AT LEAST THE FIRST PART OF THIS YEAR FOR.

>> FROM MAYOR JOHNSON AND CITY COUNCIL, THE THE OPPOSITION IS IS FOR MIDDLE OF ALL BECAUSE IT PAIRS LABOR GROUPS, TRADE UNIONS, LOCAL ON 50 PLUMBERS, ELECTRICIANS, IT PAIRS THEM WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WHICH CAN BE A PRETTY FORMIDABLE OPPOSITION.

THEY'VE ALREADY HELD THEIR PRESS CONFERENCES.

THEY THERE'S THE SEPARATE ORDINANCE THAT WOULD CALL FOR A HEARING I THINK THERE WOULD ANY WAY AND THAT CONFERENCE INTRODUCE BY CALLING THE PRESS CONFERENCE TO OPPOSE IT FIRST.

PEOPLE TO GET ON THE A LOT OF CONFERENCES.

IT'S INTERESTING TIDBIT THAT I THINK SHOWS HOW OUT.

I THINK IF THIS GOING TO BE WHEN THE SUPPORTERS HAD THEIR PRESS CONFERENCE ON TUESDAY AND I WALKED INTO THE 3RD FLOOR WHERE THAT WAS A LOT OF HIGH-POWERED LOBBYIST.

LOT OF STRATEGIST AND SPOKESPEOPLE, PEOPLE CHICAGOANS MIGHT NOT KNOW THEIR NAMES, BUT THEY COST A LOT OF MONEY.

AND IT SHOWS THAT THE EITHER SIDE IS LINING UP WITH A LOT OF MONEY THEM.

THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT LOBBYIST LOVE ONE OF THOSE LOBBYIST BECAUSE IT MEANS A LOT OF WORK, BUT THEM A LOT IF WE GO AWAY FROM, BY THE WAY, PEOPLE'S GAS IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS 11, 12 BILLION DOLLAR PROJECT TO REPLACE.

>> EVERY SINGLE GAS THAT MEAN IN THE CITY OF CHICAGO AND THESE COSTS OF BALLOON.

SO IF THE CITY DECIDES TO GO AWAY FROM GASES, THAT MEAN COMED JUST GETS ALL THIS EXTRA BUSINESS.

YEAH.

AND LET'S FORGET WAS IN MIDDLE OF I WOULD SAY, ARGUABLY THE BIGGEST CORRUPTION SCANDAL IN THE STATE, NOT JUST BECAUSE IT BROUGHT DOWN.

>> THE LONGEST-SERVING SPEAKER OF ANY STATE LEGISLATURE IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY, BUT ALSO I FEEL THAT THAT SCANDAL WITH CALM BRIBING THEIR WAY TO HIGHER RATES AND DRIVING AWAY IN SPRINGFIELD TO LEGISLATION THAT LET THEM RAISE RATES.

I FEEL LIKE IT AFFECTED MORE PEOPLE.

4 MILLION HOMES AND BUSINESSES.

SO, YEAH, I THINK IT WOULD BENEFIT NO DOUBT IF YOU KNOW RIGHT NOW WE HAVE HIGH ELECTRIC BILLS A LOT OF TIMES IN THE SUMMER WITH THE AC AND THEN IN THE WINTER IS WHEN ARE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE'S GAS AND NIGHT BILLS AND ALL THAT GO UP AND IN THE CHICAGO AREA AND THE REST, THE STATE.

AND AND AND I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKING AT THIS IN THE WINNER AT THEIR ESPECIALLY AFTER THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS OF BE LIKE, WOW, THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO TONIGHT HAVE GAS.

BUT YEAH, THERE'S A LOT OF INTEREST HERE AND THESE ARE HUGE UTILITIES THAT DEPEND ENTIRELY THE STATE BELIEVES IN THESE INDUSTRIES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, CLARENCE PAGE, THIS IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES THAT >> ACTIVATES REPUBLICANS, REPUBLICANS SAYING LEAVE MY GAS STOVE ALONE.

ALL THAT.

>> LIBERALS AND DEMOCRATS WANT TO DO IS TAKE AWAY YOUR GAS STOVE AND AND THIS IS KIND OF A LOSING ISSUE FOR DEMOCRATS.

IT SEEMS LIKE.

>> WELL, THE FIRST THING WE HAVE TO REMEMBER A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.

WHAT WE TALK ABOUT.

TALK ALL ABOUT CONVERSION FROM GAS ELECTRIC THE CITY.

AND OTHER ISSUE WITH THIS, IF YOU LIKE, THOSE WITH WHO I AND I'M GOING TO CALL IT I THINK I CALLED ALL RIGHT.

YEAH.

I THINK WHOLE TIME LATE.

IT IS.

BUT YOU KNOW, THINGS LETTER NOW SHOWED LOT OF PEOPLE SWEAR BY THEM BUT THING IS PUBLIC EDUCATION GOING TO HAVE TO BE FIRST TO PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS ABOUT SEPARATE PEOPLE FROM THEIR SUPPOSED IN THE REFRIGERATORS PERSONAL TO START A FIGHT.

YOU?

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

ALL RIGHT.

NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT SOME MORE CITY NEWS THAT JUSTIN LAWRENCE, THE COUNCIL PONCE ON THE CONTROVERSIAL LABOR DEAL WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS THAT WOULD ALLOW THOSE SERIOUS MISCONDUCT CASES TO BE HEARD CLOSED DOORS BY AN ARBITRATOR.

NOW, THIS WAS ALREADY VOTED DOWN.

THEN THE ARBITRATOR SAID NO.

I'VE RULED THAT THIS IS CONSIST WITH STATE LAW.

THIS IS THE LAW.

DOESN'T MATTER HOW YOU VOTE.

YOU'VE GOT TO ENACT SO HOW DOES THIS AND UP THAT?

YES, SO AFTER THE ARBITRATOR HELD FIRM IN HIS POSITION AND CAME BACK TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR BRANDON JOHNSON WAS ASKING THEM TO VOTE AGAINST AGAIN.

TAKES 30 VOTES TO DO SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY HAVE THE VOTES, BUT BUT KIND OF IN THE WEEDS.

ON THIS, IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN 34 VOTES JUST TO CALL THE VOTE.

AND THEY CLEARLY DID NOT HAVE 34 FOR A VOTE.

SO INSTEAD THEY'RE GOING TO GO THE COMMITTEE ROUTE.

WE'LL ON THE AGENDA, I BELIEVE ON MONDAY.

AND THEN.

>> POTENTIALLY COME UP FOR ANOTHER CITY COUNCIL VOTE ON WEDNESDAY.

ULTIMATELY, I THINK EITHER WAY THIS IS HEADING TO THE COURTS RATE, FOP WILL GO A PAID CLEARLY SAID THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF SO THE CITY TO ENFORCE THIS THAT'S PRESIDENT JOHN CATANZARA SAYS, NOT ONLY THAT THEY'RE GOING TO IN CIVIL COURT ON BEHALF OF OFFICERS WHO DIDN'T HAVE THE THAT THIS ARBITRATION RULING WOULD GIVE THEM.

SO THEY'RE GOING TO SUE THE CITY ON THAT.

AND IT'S GOING TO BE A MESSY LEGAL FATE.

THIS THIS ISSUE, WHATEVER HAPPENS ON WEDNESDAY IS REALLY JUST IT'S STARTING TO PLAY OUT.

IT'S NOT AT A CONCLUSION AND IT COULD POTENTIALLY HAVE A BIG IMPACT ON THE POLICE BOARD HEARINGS WHICH ARE SCHEDULED TO START ON FEBRUARY 5TH FOR ERIC STILLMAN, WHO'S THE OFFICER WHO SHOT AND KILLED 13 YEAR-OLD ADAM TOLEDO BACK IN 2021.

>> HE THEY THE POLICE BOARD IS CONSIDERING WHETHER TO TERMINATE HIM.

AND IF THESE RULES WERE IN PLACE IS THE ARBITRATOR SAYS THEY SHOULD BE THOSE PROCEEDINGS WOULD NOT BE PUBLIC.

THEY WOULD TAKE PLACE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS AND THERE WOULD BE NO ABILITY FOR REGULAR CHICAGOANS OR THE NEWS MEDIA TO KNOW SORT OF HOW THE POLICE POOR DELIBERATES AND SORT OF WHAT ISSUES THEY FOCUS SO I THINK THAT THERE'S AN INCENTIVE FOR THE POLICE UNION TO SORT OF TRY TO FORCE THIS ISSUE BECAUSE THEY DO NOT WANT OFFICER STILLMAN TO GO BEFORE THE POLICE BECAUSE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE HIGH PROFILE, YOU KNOW, VERY EMOTIONAL CASE IS THAT THEY SEE AS A LITMUS TEST FOR, YOU KNOW, THEIR RIGHTS AS A LABORING.

ALL RIGHT.

GO AHEAD.

AND IT'S INSANE WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER AND THEN YOUR COLLEAGUE, JARED RE TECHIE JUST ADDED UP THE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN SETTLEMENTS ON POLICE MISCONDUCT CASES AND >> LAWSUITS THAT THE PUBLIC FILES AGAINST THE POLICE FOR THEIR ACTIONS IN THE LINE OF DUTY THAT WAS FOR I THINK THE LAST FEW YEARS.

YOU KNOW, TALLEY IS HEADED IT LIKE IT OVER A BILLION DOLLARS.

I THINK EVEN BEFORE THIS PERIOD YOU LOOKED AT AND I THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD BE GRATEFUL THAT YOU'VE ADD IT UP AND BROUGHT UP TO DATE ON THAT.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT SORT OF CONTEXT, IT'S RIDICULOUS THAT LOOK, IF THERE'S ONE THING I CAN CLEARLY SAY THAT I'M BIASED IN FAVOR OF ITS TRANSPARENCY AND I DON'T SEE HOW TRANSPARENCY IT WOULD WOULD BE WOULD BE SERVED BY BY WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.

BUT GET GIVEN THE WAY THAT IT'S ALL SET UP LEGALLY, THERE MAY BE NO OTHER OPTION.

THESE COPS FEEL THAT ONCE THEY GET THIS JOB, THEY HAVE THIS JOB FOR LIFE.

ALL RIGHT.

WE APPRECIATE ALL YOUR VIEWS, BUT WE ARE AT A TIME RIGHT NOW.

SO I THANK THEM A PLUS, HEATHER, JUSTIN LAWRENCE AND CLARENCE PAGE.

BACK TO WRAP THINGS UP RIGHT AFTER THIS.

>> CHICAGO TONIGHT IS MADE POSSIBLE IN BY ALEXANDRA AND JOHN NICHOLS.

THE POPE BROTHERS FOUNDATION.

AND THE SUPPORT OF THESE DONORS.

>> THAT'S OUR SHOW FOR THIS FRIDAY NIGHT.

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YOU KNOW, DAN, IT LOOKS LIKE THE WHITE SOX AND JERRY REINSDORF ARE GOING TO ONCE AGAIN THAT THE GORE, THE PUBLIC KENNY, TO BUILD THIS POTENTIAL NEW STADIUM.

THE 78 HAVE THE ILLINOIS SPORTS FACILITY AUTHORITY ISSUE, MORE HOTEL BONDS.

WE HAVE 16 TO PAY FOR EVERY HOW MUCH HIGHER CAN THE CITY JACK UP THE HOTEL AS THE TOURISTS THAT COME TO THEY HAVE OPTIONS TO GO TO OTHER CITIES AND THEIR THAT ONCE ONCE YOU GET A RATE FROM A HOTEL BE A LOT HIGHER IN CHICAGO, IT ALREADY IS TO PAY FOR WHAT FOR STADIUMS.

>> CLOSED CAPTIONING IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CLIFFORD AND CLIFFORD LAW OFFICES, A CHICAGO PERSONAL INJURY AND WRONGFUL DEATH THAT SUPPORTS